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Please look out for that later on. We've got three coaches on the show. A lot of coach speak on this program. Last one first, Matt Ruhl of the 3-0 Nebraska Cornhuskers taking on number 24 Illinois later this week. The head coach of the best team in the National Football League, the New Orleans Saints. That's an overreaction Monday subject, Matt.
All right. He's right here in the middle of this program. And first up in this hour will be Kalen DeBoer, the head coach of 3-0 Alabama. And they're taking on a pretty big team this week. Hold on a minute.
Wrote it down here. They're taking on Georgia. Oh, you're going to stop complaining? Uh, they finally playing Georgia. It's unbelievable. Georgia's playing Alabama. Maybe they'll play twice this year.
All right. But they're playing each other. It's a pretty big game.
Obviously it's his first taste of that rivalry. And it'll be a good chat with him. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you? I'm better. Thanks to last night.
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Okay. I don't think this is an exaggeration. And it's not an overreaction Monday and a Tuesday, although we'll play that later on. Just two weeks in, just second game. The Atlanta Falcons saved their season last night.
I think I feel safe to say that. They saved their season last night. There they were in Philadelphia with a gifted opportunity, a gifted opportunity when Nick Sirianni and Kellen Moore decided to go for a third down and three in the air rather than run it on the ground to Saquon. They passed it to Saquon and the Falcons out of timeouts and a minute 40 to go. And Saquon dropped it. Saquon dropped it.
Saquon dropped it. And had he caught it, he would have turned up, field game would have been over. It would have been all she wrote. Eagles would have been 2-0 and the Falcons would have been 0-2 staring a Sunday night football nationally televised appearance against the two-time defending Super Bowl champion 2-0 Kansas City Chiefs. And that is what we would call a conundrum. That would have been an issue, a problem, for those who don't want to look it up. And Kirk Cousins in Philadelphia in a nationally televised game under the lights.
And you know, history shows no bueno. Certainly the last two years he came into Philadelphia, interestingly enough, on a week two night game. Last year was a Thursday night on prime video.
Year before that was a Monday night football game. He lost them both. And here he is down by six, needing a touchdown and a minute 40 and change to go with a timeout in his pocket. Talk about a gift, right? And probably no timeouts left. That was my whole point here. Talk about a gift here.
Oh, actually, no, wait a minute. They were left with a timeout in their pocket, right? And so here we go.
The Atlanta Falcons. No, they had no timeouts left. That's the reason why you should have run it. Run it all the way down. And so what does he do? Kirk Cousins comes up with the best drive he's had in a long time.
No doubt. And he goes five for six for 70 yards in 65 seconds. Knife through hot butter. Falcons take the lead by one. And that saved the season. You cannot go into the Sunday night game in front of the whole country.
0-2. And this is why the Falcons got Kirk Cousins. This is why they got him.
Believing that he can do it for them under the lights, the whole country watching. Because they just didn't want to try it anymore with young quarterbacks or unproven quarterbacks who might be veterans given an extra chance. No, no.
Not anymore. They weren't going to try and hit anybody with a Heinecke anymore. They're just going to go with Kirk. And Falcons saved their season.
Plain and simple. Especially with not one, but two other teams in their division starting 2-0. The Bucks who won the division last year and the highly surprising New Orleans Saints. Who Atlanta would have to now chase down two.
They spot two other teams in their division, two games, and the two-time defending champs are coming into their town next. Can't do it. Can't have it.
Won't have it. With New Orleans coming into their house. With Tampa coming into their house next.
It's all set up for them. Much better to endeavor those next three games at 1-1 rather than 0-2. Certainly if Cousins just kept on feeding the narrative and playing to his career form under the lights. Instead, flips the script, beats the Eagles, stuns Philadelphia. Jesse Bates, who is dynamite and last year's big-time free agent pickup for Atlanta, seals the deal with an interception of Jalen Hurts, who otherwise had a terrific night in my opinion. We'll get to the Eagles in a second. Falcons saved their season plain and simple.
After the game, Kirk Cousins had this to say about that final drive hit. Yeah, you know, it's so important to find ways to win and that's how you put together a great season. You know, when you have these games that can go either way, you find a way to have it break your way.
And that's the way this league is. And so when we can find those inches, it can really change the tail of the season. So we're going to have more of those up ahead and we're going to have to keep, you know, as a whole team finding ways to make the plays, to get it done. And it wasn't just, I mean, it's cool making the long extra point. It's our defense standing up at the end, too. And I've been a part of games where you go down and score and then you walk out of here with a loss because you miss that extra point and you go to overtime or you don't get the stop at the end. So it really does take everybody to find a way to come out of here with a win. Yeah, Drake London with a nice route to run to get the game winner, right?
The go-ahead, the eventual game winner. He was terrific. He slayed sleigh. Darnell Mooney had three catches, one for the first touchdown of the night for Atlanta, a 41-yarder, and then consecutive plays in that final drive, 21 and 26 yards. And then Bijan Robinson. I've never seen anybody have 18 touches in a game like him and me wondering, why didn't he have 18 more?
Honestly, I don't know what it is. You have seven yards of carry. I know you got to keep him fresh or whatever. He's so dynamite. The way he gains the edge is just breathtaking.
It really is. 14 for 97 on the ground, four of 25 in the air. 18 touches. I'd like to see him have 36 and I don't have him in fantasy, I promise you.
He's just as unbelievable. So that's the formula. That's the formula.
Bijan does his thing. Kirk Cousins can do his thing. 20 of 29, 241 yards, two touchdowns, and the defense does its thing. And Atlanta wins, if they can.
That's the formula right there. I would proffer to tell them, don't tight rope it so closely next time, but Philadelphia is a pretty damn good team. Let's get to Philadelphia. We're going to get lost in the decision here.
We're going to get lost in it. And I was wondering why they threw it to Sequan. When they threw it to him on third and three with Atlanta out of timeouts and a buck 50 or something.
No, I'll get it right here. A buck 46 to go. And they put it in the air. And Sequan is dynamite. He's having a great night. He's having a great night. And although I think they went away from him a little bit in the middle of the game, but it was working for Philadelphia. They were up and Hertz was running a lot.
And Hertz had a terrific night. And I'll get to that in a second, but just the decision here. So if they run it with Sequan and get the first down, it's over, obviously. If they run it with Sequan and lose yards, they kick a field goal with about 105 to go. And you could sit here and say, well, Kirk Cousins marched down the field in 65 seconds. So he could have won the game with no time out left, no time left on the clock.
But you can, I think, have a much easier time or much calmer endeavor of going on a game-saving, season-saving, eventual game-winning score in 65 seconds when you know you have more time to play with. So I didn't like the decision and I know it might be second guessing, but this is what Nick Ceriani had to say after the game. You know, we wanted to, they were running a certain defense and junking it up in the middle.
So we're trying to go on around the outside and, you know, it didn't work. Yeah, you can't just be every time it's third and three, say you're going to run it, right? You got to, teams obviously pick up on that. If you're, every time you're third and three, you're going to run it every time you're and set yourself up for fourth down. So sometimes you got to throw quick. Sometimes you got to run it. Sometimes you got to set yourself up. Sometimes you have two opportunities to get it on third and three with two passes. Sometimes you have the opportunities to get with runs. So again, we can't just be so predictable that we're going to say, hey, every third and three, if you're in four down mode that you're going to run the football, that's just, that's just not realistic in this league. There's too many good coaches in this league. It didn't work in this particular one.
And shoot, I'd like to have those back. I'm sure he would. And in terms of being, you know, trying to be unpredictable, this man runs the most predictable play and unstoppable play I've seen in my 20 plus years of covering the national football league. And so, and, and, and it was also the difference maker up to that point where there you can run an unstoppable play on fourth and one and the other team can't, because what set this whole thing in motion was Atlanta going for it on fourth down and one from their own 39 with 542 to go. Oh, and CJ Gardner Johnson came in and stoned smoked Bijan Robinson in the backfield running, by the way, with no fullback in front of him. And so one team runs it with the running back on fourth and one five yards behind and handing them with a head of steam. And the other guys just, okay, let's just take our quarterback who can bench 90 million pounds and shove them.
And that's what I thought they were going to do that. You know, you have to, let's just roll the dice here and say Saquon's going to get at least one or two yards. And then you run your unstoppable play and win the game that way. And by the way, if you don't get it, then on fourth down, if somehow they stop the, the tush push, you know, you take a few more seconds off the clock then, and you give the ball back to Kirk Cousins with no timeouts left and only 50 seconds on the clock.
I mean, but you just have to assume Saquon's going to catch the ball. And he, after the game, we don't have to play the soundbite. He, he, he took it on his shoulders as only he would say that he let everyone down. And I'll just say this to Eagles fans. The hurts that showed up last night is not the hurts that played the last eight weeks of last season. He looked healthy. He was 23 of 30 for 183 yards. I know that final interception. He's just trying to make a play with no time left.
I'm sure he would like that one back. He had somebody in his face. He had 268 total yards as well.
13 of 85 on the ground. He's not limping around. He didn't have AJ Brown last night. I thought hurts looked like the hurts of his Super Bowl year, man.
I did. That's the way I saw it. And Saquon almost had a hundred yards rushing. My concern is the pass rush outside of Jalen Carter, if I'm to be honest. And then, you know, whatever the, whatever the heck Vic Fangio was deciding to call on defense in the final.
Yeah. Our buddy Chris Long was tweeting a lot about the pass rush. Like why aren't they not trying to light up a guy who's 36 and was still probably possibly wondering if his Achilles can hold up, if he's got to get out of the pocket, why don't we lighten him up?
Certainly as soon as he got on the plus side of the field, light them up. But these are all second guesses. The Philadelphia Eagles are going to be in on things. Okay.
They're going to be in on things. And they're tied by the way in a three-way tie atop the NFC East right now through two weeks. Go figure that. Also, was it a cute play?
Yes, but it actually, it worked. Saquon was wide open and the game was over. I know.
Saquon dropped it. We'd be talking otherwise about the Falcons being in trouble and the Eagles are 2-0, just like the Saints are and just like the Vikings are and just like the Bucks are and nobody else, and Seattle is, and the Eagles could potentially beat all of those teams if they face them. By the way, they do face New Orleans next. They do then face Tampa after that.
I mean, everything that I'm saying right now is, is in the offing real soon. New Orleans and Tampa, the 2-0 teams right there. You know, they don't play San Francisco this year, crazily enough. Because Dallas won the division last year.
Correct. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm concerned about, I'm concerned about the, the pass rush and stopping the run. And they got to tighten those bolts. So you would come, you came in the season worried about, if you're at Philadelphia, about the offense and you're like, what are they going to do? That was hot garbage last year. Well, Kelsey's in the booth and on the turf and dancing in his track suit and the tush push is still working, right? I'm just nervous about missing Fletcher Cox on the other side of the ball.
Yeah. Also the revelation that AJ Brown's going to be out weeks now. Well, I mean, the Siriano did push back on that, but so Falcons saved their season, not so worried about the Eagles as much as some Philadelphia fans are. That one stung though. Congrats to Falcons fans.
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Thanks for having me on today. So just basically from what I can see here on the zoom, is this your office that you're in right now, coach? Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Okay. Because much has been made, or at least it was over the summer. I'm sure you saw, right? About your renovation of the digs there, coach, right?
Did you see all that conversation? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm aware. It was part of just a, you know, a few things we did up here in the office area and the facility.
So, but yeah, just, you know, updating a few things and it's been good. You got rid of the wood paneling. I saw that you got rid of coach Saban's wood paneling and listen, this is your office, man. You don't have to, you, you, you, you know, I'm just wondering who helped you with the renovation? Who helped you?
I'm not an interior designer, so I'm sure definitely had some help with that. I'll just stick to football. Okay. Okay. You can ask my wife the same thing when it comes to our house. So just, I stay away.
Yeah. Hey, listen, you should see my, my studio right here. It's filled with all sorts of stuff that my wife tells me, you know where that would look better? Not here, you know, that's my studio. It's like, yeah, you know what, that would, that would look better, not here, your office.
And so, you know but I didn't think you'd be, you'd be an interior designer, but it's kind of funny. I guess it kind of gives you an idea of the attention that gets paid to you when you're the Alabama head coach. There's the old digs right there. There he is talking to Strahan in his old spot. It's, it's, it's pretty sweet.
You know, you see all those pictures and I know we were real careful to make sure we kept all the, all the things intact as far as the furniture and make sure it's in a good safe place. And, you know, it can, you know, the legacy that comes along with it in the office can continue to be, you know, there for everyone to know about. So.
Sure. Kaelin DeBoer, head coach of Alabama football right here on the Rich Eisen show. How long did it take you to get used to hearing Alabama football coach Kaelin DeBoer?
Coach? Yeah, I think, you know, the biggest thing is you want to make sure you're not the one slipping up. I believe I did actually slip up the first press conference I had.
You know, the, the other places you've been to, it's always in the back of your mind and that's, that's happened at different stops along the way. You gotta be really careful, but it, it's, it doesn't take long because, you know, you're in front and center with a lot of people from the first day press conference and all the opportunities to speak. And of course, you know, address some recruits, prospects, all the events that you're at. Hey man, when I, when I joined NFL network in 2003, after seven years on ESPN, I, I, on one of my first shows of NFL total access, I threw a break saying this is sports center. You know, like it just came right out of my mouth and I just hit myself in the head.
I totally get it. You know, your, your, your, your identity somewhat changes or certainly when you take a new big job as you have, what was the biggest adjustment for you in Alabama? Well, I think, I think the, the, the hardest part, I don't know if it's the biggest, but the hardest part was just the timing of everything and being really the middle of January and a lot of the rosters already in place. And you know, us having a lot of great players in this program that were highly recruited out of high school in particular that was the most probably intense piece was that latter part of January, just retaining everyone here and then building the staff. So I think that was probably, you know, maybe not, probably the hardest part that we've had now, obviously now we're in the season getting into the SEC schedule, you know, it's a different type of hard that you're getting into. Right.
And we're certainly you're, you're getting into the SEC schedule with a big one and we'll get to that in a second. What were your initial conversations with Jalen Milro about, if you wouldn't mind giving me a little bit of a fly on the wall treatment here? Yeah, I think first it was just recognition of him.
I mean, he's, he's the guy that just jumps out at you because of his personality, the big smile. I remember watching, walking into the team room the first night I met the team and, you know, he's front, right, right up there, you know, in front of you, you can't help but notice him. And I just think that as we went through the next couple of weeks, you know, different conversations, him wanting to know more about what the offense could look like with him. And I just noticed how quickly he was all in, you know, that this is a place he believed in. This is a place that he wanted to help, you know, take the next step that there was unfinished business in his mind based on what happened at the end of last year. He was critical in helping the rest of the guys also buy in. And so, you know, there's a few more that were really instrumental.
I think in that first couple of weeks, he was definitely one of them. Now I'm going to take a shot here. I don't know the answer to this question. Normally I only ask questions that I think I know the answer to. They're two different quarterbacks, but did you connect him with Michael Penix, Coach?
Not right away. There was an opportunity here later in the summer where they got connected real briefly, but just really, really cool. I think, you know, I think I know from Jaylen's standpoint, there's a great respect. He watches all the cut ups.
You know, you're kind of forced to do that when it's the system that's getting brought in. He's, you know, just really taking that all in stride. He looks to learn from everyone. And so I know he's learning from the things that have been done in the last couple of years in our system.
There's even, you know, clips that were taken from previous years as well. So Jaylen soaks it all in. I know he's an observer of everyone that plays his position.
That's leaders and football teams. And so it's really cool seeing him embrace that. And then what about you at the community? I mean, clearly, you're not just replacing anybody, you know, and I know you want to turn the page.
It's your own program and it's your own world. But how do you step into Tuscaloosa, the manner in which you did and replacing the guy that you are right now? Well, it, you know, it's not hard because you're getting requested in a lot of different ways. It's not just in the community here.
Really, it's across the entire state. And it's been awesome from really the first few weeks where we're, you know, you're getting out. But then, you know, throughout the spring, whether it's people coming here and events that we have hosted on campus or you going off campus and, you know, here in Tuscaloosa or around the state, just, you know, so many great opportunities to go meet people, embrace everyone that loves this program, that loves, you know, everything around this university.
So it's been, you know, somewhat easy to embrace that because there are so many opportunities and so many great people. And then last one about Sabin. How much is he around the program? How much contact do you have with him? Yeah, he's just down the road. You know, he has an office in the stadium and just, I know he loves this place. You know, he's there for whatever questions, whatever, you know, advice he can give. I know he's probably counseling a lot of others too just along the way, not just, you know, those that are tied to football. He, you know, helped build this place to what it is today. And, you know, you just don't want, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, you just don't, but you just don't want the things that you've worked hard to establish at a place to just dissipate and drift off into space.
And so we work hard every day to carry on the legacy of all the greats that have been here in this program, players, coaches, and he's obviously, you know, a big, big part of that as well. So then what would you describe your stamp, the Kalin DeBoer stamp on Alabama football? What do you want it to be? How would you describe that? Yeah, I think right now it's just about day-to-day, you know, porn and everything you have program, you know, trying to make sure that everyone's on the same page. And I think what happens is you just stack days and at some point we'll look back and I think there will be maybe some things that, you know, you look at as, hey, this was the stamp and this is the fingerprints of what we've done. But right now it's just so in the moment, we're focused on, you know, the next day and of course the next game here as we're in the season.
So I don't get caught up in too much of trying to, you know, make it look like this, that you're just trying to do what's best for these players and trying to help facilitate environment for the staff to be successful. And obviously it's a pretty big game coming up next. What's the challenge Georgia represents?
Yeah, sure. SEC opener for us. They've already played one game, a hard-fought game with Kentucky, but, you know, for us it's getting off on the right foot here with the SEC schedule and certainly nothing but great respect for Coach Smart and Georgia's program. We know, you know, the success they've had over the years and that this matchup has always been one, you know, that means a lot for both programs. Last year, you know, the conference championship and so it's a big game in that way, you know, and what you want to do is take care of business to where the next game is the most important game. And right now front and center for us, you know, we know we need to continue to improve, work on us. That's really what you can control and that's where we're at here during this bye week. What would you counsel the fan base that saw they had a near miss against Kentucky and say, okay, this should be our game.
What do you say to those folks, coach? Well, I think every time you go on the road and that's, you know, any conference but especially in the SEC and the familiarity, I think, probably that exists with, you know, coaching staffs there with some consistency on both ends. The more you know each other, the harder it is to win those games, you know, and finding a way to win is what it's all about.
It doesn't matter if it's, if it looks pretty, if it's not done the way that people think it should have been done, finding a way to win is what it's all about. And we know that, you know, in this game you're going to get, you're going to get the opponent's best effort every week, but especially against Georgia here coming up. A few minutes left with Kaelin DeBoer, the head coach of Alabama football right here on the Rich Eisen Show.
I spend a lot of time, as you know, in the National Football League universe. Were you surprised the Atlanta Falcons chose Michael Penix when they did on draft night, coach? I wasn't surprised that he went that early. I just felt like as it was getting closer to the day of the draft that more and more teams were feeling, felt like there was more questions being asked, just more follow-up. It just seemed like there was enough information where I felt like it was going to be an earlier first rounder, maybe than what it felt like a few months, which I still thought it was going to be a first round draft for Michael. But, you know, the Falcons I know were investing a lot of time, it felt, you know, in those latter weeks. And so it honestly doesn't surprise me that they did choose him, you know, and I'm not even talking about the circumstances of having another quarterback and things like that.
It just seemed like there was a lot of momentum going that direction for him with multiple teams, but especially the Falcons. And if you don't mind, what about Penix do you think can describe how he's best equipped to wait? You know, I mean, he's a guy that seems to be pro-ready right now, quite frankly, and he's going to have to wait. And how do you think he's handling this and or how he's equipped to deal with that, for the lack of a better phrase? Well, two parts of that, I think as far as how he'll handle it, I think he'll make sure he's ready. He'll be doing everything he can to make sure he's ready. And, you know, I don't think he'll look at it as waiting.
He'll just be ready when his number is called. I think the other piece is, is why, you know, why is he successful? Why would he be successful? He's just been through. He's been through everything. He really has.
He's done it at multiple places. He's had the history of going through the adversity. Whatever comes his way, he's mature enough. He's focused enough.
He wouldn't be where he's at if it wasn't for that, if that was, wasn't the case. And so, you know, he's, he's, he'll be ready when his number is called. And I know he's working hard every day to be, to be, you know, ready for that moment. And last one, I know you've got a lot going on, obviously, you got Georgia, you've been, you've been, you've been getting everything ready for yourself. But Ryan Grubb in, in Seattle right now, just again, I know you, you've known him a long time, right? Do you guys go back to like Sioux Falls? Is that how long you guys go back?
Yeah. The first year we coached together was 2007. So, and then there's really only a couple of years in there where we weren't together. One was when I went to Indiana. Right. At Fresno State. And then a couple of years when I went to Southern Illinois. But he's, you know, it's really cool seeing him have the success here early.
And, you know, following, of course, whenever you do have a second to, to see how things are going there. But it doesn't surprise me. And I know he'll be doing great things there.
Not just this season, but well, well beyond. And he shaved, right? Did he, did he get rid of that thing? He got rid of that. He got rid of that whole thing.
What happened? I haven't seen him, I guess, just a couple of text messages here. So maybe he has. No, he has.
I just don't know. Again, again, I know, I don't know how closely you're following it, but the Seahawks are 2-0 and he's dialing it up for Geno. You know, certainly when it matters the most. And again, I don't know how much clearly you have any much contact with him, but it's, it must be pretty neat for you to see that.
Oh yeah. We're in contact with each other and rooting for each other, you know, before each game and after every game, you know, congratulation texts and things like that. So yeah, fired up for the success of him.
And you know, again, doesn't surprise me. Coach, thanks for the time. Greatly appreciate it.
Certainly for a big week against Georgia. So let's keep in touch and I appreciate you zooming in here. Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on.
You got to ask Kaylin DeBoer, head coach of Alabama football, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. I'm sitting here at the Rich Eisen Show desk, furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.
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Did we really go to that whole interview without one roll tied or did I? I don't know. I mean, Nick never said that. He never said that. I know, but I just, you know, I always think Alabama. I want to hear somebody say that. Well, you just did.
Okay, true that. I mean, if the two teams that played on Saturday show up this week, it's not going to be a close game. Alabama has scored 147 points in three games. Jalen, Milro, 14 total touchdowns, eight in the year, six on the ground. Yeah, he looks amazing. So he looks like he has absorbed what DeBoer is putting down. Second in the Heisman odds for Jalen Milro.
Is it right behind? Kim Ward from Florida has been amazing. You mean Miami? Yeah, from Miami. Yeah, Florida has been there, anything but. Miami, your new number one. Miami. Texas number one. Texas number one? I thought Miami was number one in one of the polls, right?
Did I see that? Oh, maybe in the coach's poll. Hey, what's my guy's Heisman chances looking like now, Brockman? Well, he didn't even have to look up to know who I was talking about.
Yo, on Saturday before the game, Arch was a hundred to one and longer to win the Heisman. And now I saw him at- Now I see. Here I see.
28 to one. Oh, baby. He's the backup quarterback. Ewers week to week. Yeah. Me and Arch on a boat. It's coming.
Ewers started as the favorite. He's now 20 to one. Guess what, man? You know that card is going to be worth something someday. Maybe. It already is.
How much is the card worth right now? I haven't looked because I have a- Why wouldn't you look? Because here's why, Rich.
Del Tufo's looking at the- He's Zillowing everybody's house every day. I'm sure. Because I don't think this is worth nearly as much as I think it is. Oh, that's a problem.
So I'm just trying to protect myself from disappointment. Here's the bar. Here's the bar you need to- Is it $1 plus tax? I would say so. Is it better than $1 plus tax? Yeah, I would say so. That's the bar. $130. Oh, you just looked it up?
Oh, baby. Mike just looked it up for you. I don't know if I got the right card. I'll be on that dock next to you soon, Mike.
I'll be on that dock next to you soon. I got a big slip bill. I don't know if I'm glad that he looked that up for you, or I'm distressed that he was able to look it up so fast while also conducting his work, as if he does that a lot. He's used to looking up, Googling nonsense while working.
Rich, it's called multitasking. Oh, I'm sorry. That's why you have all them Emmys. Well, I'm glad you just beat him to the punch, because otherwise he would have said that. No, I don't gloat about those.
You don't? All right, let's take a break here. When we come back, we talk about the Alabama quarterback that just got benched in the National Football League.
I don't think we've really dug into this story yet. Roll Tide. We did it just live yesterday, and I also got a new one for the competition committee. Oh, I'm on it, guys. That's coming up. Let's talk about game time tickets, people.
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And I just continue to work my tail off and try to take steps every day to be the best player, quarterback, and man I can be. So what questions are you asked? I mean, what more do you need to, in your estimation, put out there that you're being asked about?
Well, you know, Rich, it's a process. And it's something that I've never experienced. And you know, they've pretty much asked me questions to try and get a better feel of who I am as a person, as a leader, you know, and as a ball, right? So it's very unique in my position because I've had so many different offensive coordinators.
And I've been around so many great minds in the game. So these coaches simply want to know what I know. They know I know ball. They know I've been well taught from each and every coach.
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NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games excludes digital only games. We reacted to it live yesterday and this is a first, man. I mean, we've seen 10th overall drafted quarterbacks get replaced by first drafted overall quarterbacks. Josh Rosen by Kyler Mudry, right?
Yep. And we've seen Justin Fields drafted where he was drafted. Was that 11th overall?
Was it? I think you're right about that. Trying to get off the top of my head, like the Bears trade up to go get him and then stick with him and then get an opportunity for Caleb Williams.
And they're like, Vaya con Dios, sir. And we'll get an update on whether Fields is going to get a third straight start for the now 2-0 Steelers. But it's all a set up to say, I don't recall a first overall selection that a team trades so much capital to go get. So much, including not just draft capital, but Caleb Williams has DJ Moore to throw to. I've never seen a team do that, draft a quarterback and bench him 18 games in.
18 games in. Bryce Young went 2-14 last year, didn't play until the last preseason game, looked pretty good in the preseason. And Dave Canales, the head coach, was brought in. He was brought in from Tampa with no head coaching experience in advance because of what he did for Baker Mayfield in Tampa and Geno Smith in Washington and in Seattle. Pardon me, we just spoke to Kellen DeBoer.
So it got that Washington on the brain. And two games in, he's looked lost. There's just no other way to put it. He looks lost and he's benched. It's truly unbelievable. And unfortunately, he's also got the, for lack of a better analogy, the Trubisky thing going on that the quarterback that the other team didn't take to take him is performing phenomenal. Future of the week.
Right? And the quarterback that the other guy is performing like is making it tougher for people like him and all the other rookie quarterbacks because of how CJ Stroud has looked for Houston. Now, it doesn't help that the Carolina Panthers didn't surround Bryce Young with very much last year. And this year, we will see.
Hold on a minute. We'll see about this year because Andy Dalton's about to take over. And we'll see if Andy Dalton can orchestrate this offense in a way that say Mayfield did and Geno Smith did because Canales' offense looked pretty good with a veteran like Geno and a veteran like Baker running it.
But, you know, when Geno ran it, that's DK. That's Tyler Lockett. When Baker ran it, that's Mike Evans.
That's Chris Godwin. We'll see what happens. But for the moment, it is just stunning, a stunner, a shocker, 18 games in that they decide to bench him. And one day after the head coach was asked, were you thinking about benching him in the game?
No. Bryce Young is my quarterback. He's our quarterback.
What about future? You're taking on the Vegas Raiders, the Condor, Christian Wilkins. Max Crosby just sacked Lamar Jackson twice. And he's tough to corral.
This just in. He's a two-time MVP of the league. Four tackles for loss for Max Crosby. You're going to play Bryce Young. You thinking of starting him? He's our starter. Next day, benched.
Canales explained his reasoning. After yesterday, just went home, watched the film, had some conversations with coaches, with Dan Brandt. So had to gather a lot of information through this morning and made that decision after looking at it that this is the best decision for our group, for our team going forward. Dave Tepper saying in the past that he gets consulted on the big decisions. What was his role in this as you guys? I want to keep that private. What I would like to say though is this is something after I watched the film, I looked at it, had a thought, started working on talking to the guys that we make decisions with.
Certainly a lot of parties involved there. And ultimately this comes on me and my number one responsibility is to help the Panthers win. And so this move I believe puts us in a best chance to do that this week. I would agree.
It does give them the best chance to win this week, this week being that right there. And listen, when an owner one and done's people like David Tepper has done in Carolina and the coach off of a decision that is so wild, that it's so shocking that is made and it's a complete counter to what he has told the media the day before. It is obvious when everybody else out there thinks the owner pulled the code red or is pulling a string or whatever. I don't know, man. I don't know how you could think otherwise.
Because I would think the owner would say, too bad. I hired you to fix him. You fix him because we gave up the ninth overall pick and 61st overall pick in last year's draft. The first overall pick in this year's draft. And that pick has made Chicago fans nuts about their quarterback. And we have a second round pick in next year's draft that we also gave up. And I kind of think we could use DJ Moore right now.
And also through everything, $38 million in cash has gone out the door. So you fix the kid. And I don't care. It's tough for me to watch, but Andy Dalton, really?
I didn't hire you. So you could turn to me just two games in and say, Andy Dalton's our quarterback. That is what I would think the owner somewhat impetuously might tell his coach. But the move's been made. Because at some point, how long do you stick with it? That's the point.
How long do you stick with it? And the move, now that it's been made too, it's just because we deal in narratives. Do you think, what are the odds? You tell me which narrative is going to come out of this. Okay.
All right. One in which Bryce Young, one day, takes the Panthers exactly where they wanted to take him, which is deep in the playoffs, Super Bowl. He's a first overall selection, deserving of that selection, and plays better than CJ Stroud one day. And the Panthers will just look back on this moment and say, that's the moment when we saved his career. We took him out when he was struggling. He watched Dalton do it. Canales is weaving the magic.
We were able to win some games. He saw what needed to be done and took us to where we wanted to go. Or the alternative, which is he's been damaged. He's damaged goods in Carolina, and he's got to go somewhere else in order to be the Bryce Young that he can be.
He's the next Sam Darnold. I'll take the latter. Right. And on top of it, on top of it, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Go ahead. No, no. I was going to say, I was with the former until you said that he would be better than CJ. I don't know if that's the way that's the way that's what they evaluated him as.
Yeah, but I'm saying it could be the fact that he does get a reset and kind of is able to. And here's what's most likely about this. What do you think? Dalton's going to last 14 games, 15 more games. You think he might get dinged up, hurt. Bryce Young goes back out there.
Now he's the guy who got benched looking just as lost. What do you think? You think Dalton's going to play the rest of the year? Well, that seems unlikely. Okay. So then if that's unlikely, then what's the metric by which they're like comfortable putting Bryce back in there?
Last resort, break glass. Because Dalton has shown that the roster is substandard around him? Dalton gets injured. I think the only way Bryce Young plays again is if Andy Dalton gets hurt. Well, that's a problem.
He's the first overall pick of the draft. They gave up all this capital. That's a problem. That's what I'm saying is like, we have to win now.
Do you really? Because you drafted a guy first overall and hired a first time head coach with the leeway of knowing it's going to be dark before it gets light again. True. Troy won one game in his first year, right?
Yeah. Look at him now. What are the odds that that's Bryce Young? Although Troy never got benched or he's going to have to go somewhere else. And to admit that two games or at least admit that that's a path. Just two games in, 18 games in his career.
I've never heard of anything like it, man. This is a new one for me. Hour two coming up. It doesn't seem like they're a well enough run organization to fix Bryce Young at the moment. I think that's just an honest assessment.
Or they're like, this isn't working. We got to pull back. We got to realize that and we will rehabilitate him.
And this is the guy to do it positivity wise. But Andy Dalton is the one who's going to have to go into like, what happens if Max Crosby gets a clean shot at him and they benched him and he's out there in Vegas looking just as bad as he did the first two games? What happens now?
What can you do? Then they're going, oh, in 17. That's what's happening. And then they're going to draft somebody new. Yeah. And Bryce Young gets rosined. Honestly, they could fall in love with Chidor. They could fall in love with yours or any of these guys. Any of them.
Yeah. Any of them. Whoever's going to be available first overall. Because there's currently not a third quarterback on the depth chart. There's not. Well, there's one. They told you that kid, Jack Plummer from Louisville.
The fact that they're thinking maybe he's the guy. I mean, Young is going to have to be, he's going to have to be active. Yeah.
Yeah. Which, which means he could play Sunday. So the sit back and watch the veteran, that could last all of a quarter.
Or let's try to be positive. Maybe Dalton comes in. There was a couple of tuddies and they pull up in the set, maybe? That would be super fun. And the alternative, unfortunately for everybody, was, was just let it keep riding, which as you know, in Vegas, sometimes that's a problem. That's how you lose your shirt. Fun guests coming up next.
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