Sam Wyche: Pro Day Was Real Interesting

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Remember he went on that screen? I've been told he's advanced his cause. Oh yes. Of the goal posts?

Trying to get rid of the kick and field goals and extra points. I can't wait for him to express all of that. Hour number three.

Three episodes of Curb Left. Not enough, not enough. I would agree. We'll see if he does. I think he's done. You think we can talk him into one more? Let's see.

We have our usual thing with him where we've got a whole bunch of social situations that he has to play judge and jury for. It'll be great. That's in hour number three. Joining us here now though via Zoom from the NFL Network, NFL Media Group. And again we plus it up.

We plus it up here. He plussed it up yesterday on NFL Plus. He was part of the coverage of Caleb Williams pro day at USC.

Steve Weitzsch. Good to see our chief national reporter back here. Good to see you Steve.

How you doing? Good to see you Rich. Are you trying to say that Larry David might be full a la Aaron Donald? He might be full. He's full. After 12 seasons he's full.

That's correct. But after 10 for Aaron Donald. So what was the pro day like? What were your impressions? It was real interesting Rich and I'll kind of put it to you this way. First off, you know all 31 teams were there. The Bears were deep. They had probably seven or eight people from their coaching staffs and personnel staffs were there. But Rich, you know most pro days when you have a quarterback they're trying to dazzle.

Right? They're trying to show you that they can rip it outside the numbers to the opposite hash. That they can throw it deep. That they can roll out. That they can play under center. Caleb's pro day was more of a showcase of this is what I can do when everything's working fine around me.

I'm going to keep it in the pocket. He did 50 throws almost exclusively from the pocket. About 60 percent from shotgun. About 40 from simulated under center. And he wasn't trying to make the big throws. Yeah there were some deep throws. There were some really just beautiful rocket balls outside the numbers. But again it seemed like he wanted to show these teams what he could do when things were calm.

Because you know on film at USC especially last season rarely were the C's settled when he dropped back to pass. So it was really kind of a, as our Daniel Jeremiah said, a salad type of pro day in terms of like the full entree with dessert. Okay so for those who don't eat greens what does that mean?

So I think that means like hey look nothing fancy here. Let's just go out again. Let me show you that I've got the big arm. You can see me move by. You didn't see me do this at the combine.

But again there's plenty of tape. You saw what I had to do at USC. Where I had to evade the pocket and two tacklers while making all these spectacular off-platform and off-schedule plays. Let me again show you that I can rip the Texas route to the running back. I can stick it to the slot receiver on a 15 yard dig. I can hit somebody on a 17 yard out. But I can also throw as our old friend Mike Mack likes to say the bang eight.

The deep route that goes straight down the field. And again part of the other thing was how engaging he was. Not with just his teammates but the staff personnel. And Rich you know that is a huge thing for someone to bring a 22 year old into their building. Pay them tens of millions of dollars. And they want them to be able to walk in and speak to the people in the cafeteria. And speak to the people who are cleaning up their equipment.

And also get along with teammates who a lot of them could be 10 years older than them. Yeah and he did that at the combine too. Pretty much he thanked everybody who ran drills. He turned the lights out on that Saturday night.

And the photograph we have up on the screen it's still up there for a reason. Because he's gripping the football with his left hand with a smile on his face. He was warming up throwing spirals left handed Steve.

What was up with that? He's just that talented. And Rich we've seen him even when he was back at Oklahoma playing for Lincoln Riley. And things were much more on schedule than how they had to be last season at UNC. So I think he was just like hey I've got it.

I can do the home stuff. Again that's the comp. When you see a lot of the baseball type of throws and things that he can do. And the big arm and just the spectacular ability that he has. So we saw him punt the ball to kind of button up his pro day. So he was just doing a lot of things. But I think at the same time he was trying to keep it light for his handful of teammates. Who were also trying to impress these scouts. And try to make them not feel that they were under any pressure. Because he knows he's going to be the first pick.

But he also wanted to make sure that they look good. So they can get a shot in the NFL as well. Steve White here fresh off of the USC pro day coverage on NFL Plus.

Right here on the Rich Eisen show. You just said it. He knows he's going to be the first pick. He does right? Do you think it's been communicated?

Legitimately already? Well I got to tell you. It was hard not to think that just watching the interaction of what happened there. Like who did he go see right after he finished throwing. After he upped up his teammates. Matt Eberfluss. Ryan Polz the head coach and general manager of the Bears. His head coach at USC Lincoln Riley. Who was standing with Polz and Eberfluss.

While most of this workout was going on. But he went and shook hands with other people on the staff. Yes he did shake hands with Adam Peters. And Dan Quinn of the Washington Commanders who are the second overall pick. But you know you saw Keenan Allen showed up.

Right Rich this is the first time I've ever seen anything like this. A veteran player gets traded. To the Bears wide receiver.

He shows up at his pro day. Right so Caleb said that they had a relationship because Keenan Allen of course played for the Chargers here in LA. And so they had a prior relationship. But Keenan could have been doing 4 million other things. And he came to see what likely will be his next quarterback.

Go through this process. So again the Bears I spoke to somebody with them. They arrived in town Monday. They met with Caleb. They went to dinner.

They were the only team to do so. As Caleb put off scheduling any other meetings until after the pro day. So again if I'm connecting the dots and reading the tea leaves and everything else. This seems like the draft starts at two with Washington.

Because number one is pretty buttoned up. No doubt man I got that sense too. Just at the combine even. And I imagine that's the only way a Cal Bear is going to show up at USC's pro day right? Right.

Otherwise he would be a very warm place to have to freeze over for that to happen. And that's the sense too. What a set up for Caleb with DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and Cole Kamet and DeAndre Swift in the running back room. And you know $60 million in cap space to potentially maybe sign somebody here or there. Get a nice mid-season acquisition even.

You know they went ahead and got Montez Sweat last year. And that's the other point too. Is how supremely talented they are on that side of the football. This is a great set up for Caleb. So I don't understand the conversation about pulling in Eli or will he pull in Eli.

Like you already made the face. I mean he's kind of all in here don't you think? With the Bears as well? It really seems so. And don't forget the Bears have the 9th overall pick as well.

So they've got some ability to trade back and get pieces and use that to get maybe one of the best pass rushers to go with Sweat on a rookie contract. You know I actually asked Caleb. I was like look do you fully expect to go to Chicago? And he was like good question.

Like how am I going to answer this without saying yes? And he was like well I'll put it to you this way. You know things can happen.

They can still trade the pick. Things like that you know. Like he's giving every scenario so he didn't come off as saying that yeah I fully expect to go to Chicago. But like you said it seems like he's all in. All this conversation of you know he should pull in Eli.

Like why? They set their team up to some degree better than C.J. Stroud had set up.

You know in Houston. People forget that Stroud went to a team that had a pretty strong offensive line with Larry Matunzel and Titus Howard. And players like that. Now no one knew his receivers were going to show up the way they did. Well we know the Bears receivers have got a history of being pretty good. And like you said the back half of last season Matt Eber who's got that defense playing very well once they acquired Montez Sweat. So he is not walking into a situation like you know that we saw you know Bryce Young walk into and Carolina last. So I mean I think the Bears should feel pretty good about bringing in a super talented player like this at a position that they have not been able to settle for decades. Yeah I mean just to I guess bolster that point Steve. The setup that Bryce Young had last year in Carolina is what's allowing the Bears to draft Caleb Williams.

I mean let's be straight up about that. So Steve White's here on the Rich Eisen Show. The Commander's crew was there as well right heading to the Michigan Pro Day. What do you think their plans are as you just mentioned you think the draft starts at two now that Caleb is in virtual Sharpie to Chicago. Right yeah so I spoke to head coach Dan Quinn he's like look we're going to all the quarterback workouts. I don't see how they don't draft a quarterback at number two. I mean they saw what happened you know last couple years they drafted quarterback in the later rounds and now Sam Howell and all these guys are gone.

Now who will it be like you don't know if it's going to be Drake may you don't know if it's going to be Jay Daniels. You know Cliff Kingsbury the OC was at Caleb's workout. You coach Caleb last year USC but we know he likes quarterbacks. You know who can move a little bit. He likes quarterbacks who got some stuff to him. You know think about guys he's coach you know like Baker Mayfield like Kyle.

So again we'll we'll see exactly how that's going to shake out. But then you look at their running back room right now we got Austin Ecklund Brian Robinson. So they're good they're going to be a run first football team. As well but they've got targets for receiver. So again it's not the worst circumstance for a rookie quarterback to come into even though I think Washington is in the beginning process of flipping its roster a little bit more than the Bears are. So but again it seems all the way that they are going quarterback with the second. I mean Washington was was quite active in free agency as well and they you know they you don't sign Bobby Wagner thinking you have a rebuild. You know what I'm saying or nor does Bobby Wagner sign with Washington if they feel like this is just going to be another year to kind of you know get get to where you want to go. And I guess they assume Jayden Daniels will be ready or you hear Drake may needs a redshirt year. I mean there's so much conversation on that front the Patriots there at three do they stick and pick do they trade out to the Giants trade up the Vikings went ahead and got a second first round draft choice. And that's not for just trying to make sure that they'll have a shot at the best player available at what twenty three.

You know like that that's not what that you do that for. So what was the conversation amongst everybody standing around watching the workout yesterday on that story. That that's that's a great point because a lot of conversation and look at Arizona's for it. They hold they hold the golden ticket right now because that's where they think people are going to trade out. They think the top three picks as you mentioned. You know you've got Chicago you've got Washington New England everyone thinks those three picks are going quarterback and then Arizona's got the fourth pick is Minnesota going to come up and use that fourth pick on let's say JG McCarthy out of Michigan right.

Some people I see they're overdrafting but they may say we're in this run of its Minnesota. It is Denver and the Raiders at eleven twelve and thirteen. We've got to get up and get ourselves a quarterback because those two teams need to get quarterbacks as well. Do you come up to four does Arizona trade back and if they don't get Marvin Harrison Jr. Everyone's kind of projecting them to know maybe they get neighbors Malik neighbors out of LSU or one of the better available players plus pick up a draft pick. So again a lot of the conversation, you know, that wasn't quarterback centric at the pro day. I heard was like that number fourth pick looks like a very very sweet spot Arizona can get out and that looks like where whomever we got to trade up to.

Yeah, and then last one for you Steve. I've been asking this of everybody these days because certainly when you quarterback quarterback quarterback to start a draft we saw that in two thousand twenty one and how that work out for everybody. So and you know, that's not fair Trevor Lawrence is I think in a position to to truly succeed and take another step forward after what happened last year. But that's my long wind up for this pitch here and I'm asking everybody now that we saw Justin Fields traded away. So Caleb Williams can get drafted. Let's just say Ryan polls somehow had one Achilles heel in this roster build and that wasn't getting a first round draft choice in this year's draft from Carolina and Carolina did have the first overall pick in this draft and the way that you're seeing young quarterbacks get discarded so fast. And dude, do you think if Carolina did have the first overall pick they would swap out Bryce young for Caleb Williams, right? I mean, that's a great question. So let's just say everything else remains the same the day palaces the head coach.

Yes, sir. I don't I don't think they would do I think they would trade out because can Alice's the new quarterback whisperer, right? He's the guy who got Russell Wilson playing his best football in Seattle. He's the guy who got Gino Smith having his best season in Seattle. He's the first guy to get Baker for a thousand yards.

So I think if that were the case Carolina had to pick they would trade out and they would still go with price because they believe they can out. Okay. All right, Steve.

Appreciate you two cents there. Let's get you back in studio next time. I know you got to go.

What do you got going on today? Steve, we're getting ready to take the NFL report James Palmer and I and we've got a good show Kenny moron. We're going to talk a little bit about Caleb. We're going to have Brian Baldinger on and Lance Serline are one of our draft analyst is going to be on rich telling us about the best pass with rushers.

We're not talking about the guys. No, we're not back enough. So that's going to be good stuff on NFL Plus. Catch out the the NFL report. Say hi to James and his hair as if that's not enough. I just had Pellesaro on last hour. He and James Palmer.

He and James Palmer would have a pomade off, you know, that's for sure Steve. Great to see you. Thanks again. Appreciate it. That's Steve watch everybody.

Check out the NFL report on NFL Plus, which you can do right here on Roku. Yeah, I I said it yesterday leading the show. And I'll repeat it here again, mostly because I was proven correct.

Listen. Caleb Williams is going to be a Chicago bear and the Chicago Bears, even if Jayden Daniels looks like the second coming. It's going to be Caleb Williams.

I'm sure they will be a lot of higher register line. Jayden Daniels look pretty good. But they're not taking Caleb to dinner. I mean, Carolina took everyone to dinner last year. I'm just saying they're not taking Caleb to dinner and dapping them up and trading away Justin Fields. Only to get second thoughts.

Because it's not like Caleb Williams, I think, has given them any reason to have second thoughts. The aspect that Steve hit on there that I I thought was very keen analysis is him. Showing off. He's a good dude. He's there for his teammates, he's there for this, he's talking to everybody, he's chatting up everybody. Now, you could sit here and say it's all an act.

You never know anybody anymore. But he was at the combine on that Saturday night and that was a long day. And it's an early morning the next day. Do you know every single prospect that worked out at the combine had to stay overnight? Sometimes they would just let him go. Sometimes in previous combines, they all had to stay overnight to get a drug test at six in the morning the next day. And every day starts early at the combine. And I know Caleb Williams didn't work out, but he turned the lights out. He stuck around to watch the other USC guys work out and then he did go up to everybody and said thank you for running the drills.

Yeah, I saw video of that. Now, you could say, again, that's an act. You've got to prove that you're a good guy.

But that does go a long way. You're going to give somebody all these millions of dollars. You don't want an a-hole in your organization. You just don't, no matter how good the guy might be on the field. Certainly if things are close enough that you do like Jayden Daniels, too, I just don't think this is going to spin out in another direction. This is Caleb Williams to Chicago. And Chicago Bears fans, I think, are having trouble computing it right now.

Understandable. You know, like yesterday, Adam Chudwin, our call screener, the resident Chicago Bears fan is just like looking at his phone kind of like, oh, wow, look at that. And he's I think it's beginning to dawn on him. What's about to happen?

What's potentially about to happen? Because Bears fans do have the, you know, cauterized wounds of some other quarterbacks that didn't pan out. I mean, Mitchell Trubisky, that might be the whole if Caleb Williams is the guy that we're expecting him to be. That would finally, I think, take the Mitchell Trubisky stench.

Well, I guess the the hold on a minute, I'll say this potentially right. Although the post-traumatic Trubisky disorder, PTTB, I don't know. I was just going to say Wounds of Trubisky. Wounds of Trubisky is a great. It's the Wounds of Trubisky, which is, I think, was that a Simon and Garfunkel song?

Is that on the flip side of Sounds of Silence? It's the B side. Wounds of Trubisky. So I think Caleb would finally get that out of the minds of we traded up. To get a quarterback. And Mahomes was left on the board. As if you knew what Mahomes is going to turn into. Nobody knew what Tom Brady would turn into. That's the vagaries of the draft in the same way that, you know, the Jets thought they were made in the Zach Wilson shade.

And Trey Lance was going to bring some sort of a quarterback 2.0 game to San Francisco. I get it. I understand. But I think Bears fans, you should realize, trust me, I wish the Jets were sitting in this position being able to get Caleb Williams. You too with New England. That's the exact answer.

What you're looking for. And the neat part about it for you Bears fans is it's not like the 1 in 15 or 1 in 16, you know, house has been totally torched down to the ground. Like the whole thing is needing to be built up similar to what Carolina's got to do right now. Instead, Ryan Polls has had a couple of years head start and has in fact utilized last year's trade so brilliantly and has added some pieces in free agency. And I remember when Roquan Smith got traded away, we were even wondering, what's he up to? Why would you take somebody like him?

That's the guy you build around. They have done a great job and the back end of that defense is young and ball hawking. The front end of that defense can rush the passer. Eber Flus is the guy who runs that side of the ball. We will see if Shane Waldron, can Shane Waldron find the offense to unlock this kid and can the offensive line protect?

Because you know the receivers and weapons are there to receive. And the running game does appear to be ready to roll. So Williams isn't just rolling into some spot and hope he's the savior.

We got to hope he does it himself. Not at all. Like it has been set up. It's been set up.

So I think that would be my message. It's been set up. This is not a set up. Mitchell Trubisky is not walking through that door. Caleb Williams is.

And I think that's a significant difference. It's just in. Come on, get happy. Who's the Ruben Kincaid then? I don't know who that is.

I guess that's Eber Flus. Was it George McCaskey? He's the Ruben Kincaid of this thing? I think you and I need to stop having this conversation because people do not know we're talking. I know. Yeah. Very.

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You are the judge and jury as to what is done. OK. The first one is destination weddings. OK.

It's already funny. Destination when I say to my wife, we're going to a destination wedding. We should not give a present because my presence is my present.

What do you say, Larry? First of all, where is the wedding? How far is it?

Another country. OK. You don't even go. You don't go. You don't go. But it's a close family friend. I don't care. I am not flying 14 hours on a plane to somebody's wedding. I'm not going to do that.

The distance from your house that you... An hour and a half by car. That's it. Here's social situation number two for you, Larry. So you're going into somebody's house for, let's say the fight, the Mayweather McGregor fight.

This happened to one of our producers, Ken Tullo. OK. They brought desserts.

Fight ends. Nobody's touched the desserts. They like these desserts. Is it OK to take the desserts home? It's still, you're bringing it to the host, right?

That's true. The host saw it. It's different if the host didn't see it, then you could sneak out. So if the host never saw it, if you placed it on the table and there's no note. Yeah, that's when you could take it. If you think if you think you're not going to get caught.

Yeah, then you could take it. Last one for you, Larry. L.D., shoes off on a plane. Do you have a problem with somebody on a plane? I have a big problem with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Keep them on. OK. You know, don't make yourself. It's not your house.

All right. You're outside. You're in public. I don't want to I don't want to see your socks. And God forbid you have a little odor down there who needs that. Right.

I don't even want to know if you do have it. Exactly. It's close quarters. Come on. Take a couple of minutes.

Keep your shoes on. We've got more situations for Larry coming up in our number three on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. Back here, sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk, furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call click Grainger dot com or just stop by. All right. We have some scoring updates right now. TJ Jefferson's final four team to come out of the West. Here it comes. Michigan State.

I'm just going to play the beginning up. Thirty seven to twenty nine on Mississippi State. They're doing their usual thing of playing tough defense and making shots a little bit in transition.

Also going through some like scoring droughts to make things a little bit more difficult. But they just turned Mississippi Mississippi State over again. Like this is what they do.

Tried to tell you. And we're about to be at the first TV time out, Mark. And they're now up by 10.

Easy work. We all have Michigan State winning this game in our brackets. And my mom texted me and said that she picked Mississippi State. Oh, sorry, Mary Brockman. I mean, it's still time to go here.

It's time to go here. But this is what Michigan State does. They just play defense. They they they're just they're just really tough.

It's just tournament tested. And Tom Izzo is just well, I don't want to I don't want to put the Ziggy on him. And BYU is down nine right now at 225 to go Duquesne. First upset alert. That's 11 on a six. Is that even an upset anymore? Oh, yeah. Come on now.

And the NCAA tournament. I mean, I don't know. That's pretty good. Eleven is the new twelve right now. Well, it's creeping up. It's creeping up. It's creeping the other way as a matter of fact. Yeah. Come on now. These teams are so evenly matched these days. Five twelve used to be like, look out like somebody.

They are. By the way, who else here picked Duquesne to win that game? Just took BYU.

I took Duquesne too. So everybody just needs to relax. Everybody just go back to your homes.

There's nothing to see here just yet. Guys, I can remember back in the day, like in my early 20s, like this day, the first day. Oh, we would call off. I called off work at Foot Locker a month in advance.

Me and my boys would go to a bar at like eight a.m. wouldn't leave till like seven. But at least you gave your employers at the foot locker a little heads up. You didn't have you just didn't go. I'm not feeling too well. I didn't just not show up on the blue flue for you, sir. And have a replacement for you. Mike, are you going to be here tomorrow?

Yes, 100 percent. I don't know. Well, you can't see Vegas, I think, for the weekend.

That's the two games here. What are you doing? I remember those days when I used to be able to go to Las Vegas weekend off, sit in the sports bar for like a night. Huh?

We just go for the night tomorrow. Yeah, just for that's not. No, I can't. That's not you know, Mike. I don't do these things anymore. I mean, it's the NFL. I'm a corporate stooge.

Oh, that's true. But what I'll do is I'll season off season. Here's what I'll do for you. Here's what I'll do for you. I'll loan you my interpreter. Will you pay us?

By the way, you know how attractive that job is if that guy got fired. All these jokes are free reign now, by the way. What do you mean? All these jokes are now in play because of this. Yeah.

What jokes? Interpreter jokes. But you know, I legitimately have an interpreter on staff. Right. Because sometimes people, when they sit in this chair, they're not fluent in Del Tufo. And we have to give them a little. That's true.

You have to give them a little help when they sit in this chair. Susie doesn't need a Del Tufo interpreter. She knows you.

She's locked up. She thinks we're too hard on Mike Del Tufo. I mean, sometimes I speak Del Tufo. You definitely. You definitely speak Uber drivers.

One billion percent speak Del Tufo. Yeah, because I because he sits in the front seat like a lunatic guy this weekend. Yep. Did you really?

Yeah. You sat this weekend. It was a giant SUV.

He was like creeped out by that. We had a good conversation about what? Said, I'm going to give you five, brother.

I went five stars. But I get what you talk about. I think it's sociopathic to get into an Uber and just sit in the front seat. Is it wrong that you think that? No, but it does. No, I don't want you sitting here.

Yes, there are guys that will say no. Well, a lot of people, they have all their stuff. You know why they have all their stuff in the front seat? Because they don't think anybody would ever want to sit in the front seat.

I also reached the front seat. They usually slide the whole way up because they like right away. Exactly. Because they want to make sure that the comfort level for their passengers who are going to sit in the proper seats, which is behind has the proper legroom. So I understand that. And if I imagine like if a driver would see like five people stroll up, he'll get it. Like then they'll start removing their material because they'll understand what the layout is going to be. And someone's going to have to sit up front. But it's just one passenger.

And they say, would you mind if I sit up front? It would be just like, are you a sociopath? No, he was fine. He was fine. Honestly. Well, of course he's going to tell you he's fine, Mike, because he wants a titto. No, because he wants five stars. I got five back, brother. I guess that's the way it works.

I got five on it. Does Patrick Bateman just say I'll sit up front? He probably would, because that's like a sort of you want to listen to. Buffalo Bill wants to sit up front. I don't think Buffalo Bill gets out of the house. Right.

So he wants to hear what he's crying. Seriously, man. You know, we will we'll have to ask Larry David about this. And oh, this is actually yes. Oh, wow. That'd be a good one. Yes.

Add that in. He'll say he'll probably be very anti up front. I don't know. Who knows with him? You don't know.

Yeah, you can't with him. You don't know. You can't predict. You cannot predict what you're right.

I mean, you can you can assume. I also want to ask how many fantasy teams it's too much. I don't think he cares.

You know, he's not a fantasy. Dude, Creighton and Akron are underway. All right.

Oh, yeah. Tied at six. Michigan State is up forty three twenty nine. And here comes the first. Did they just have their first TV time out or there? They took it came by.

Oh, my word. The Mississippi Mississippi State fans are sitting there going, what is hitting us right now? What's hitting you is Tom Izzo, man.

The eight nines are tough for the two by four. Those teams are the Mississippi State's coach looks like a like a like an older, slightly taller version of Gary Vaynerchuk. I want to see him again. Like if Gary was 10 years older and maybe a couple of inches taller. Gary, Gary, our friend.

OK. OK. Yeah. Long Beach State and Arizona getting going. Dan Monson. Do you get that sound bite ready? Because we're going to play this for Larry.

At least we have the plans to do this. We never know with him. You know, Dan Monson got fired. Right. Right. Yeah. He gets fired by Long Beach State and they say you can still coach.

I guess I'd love to know the mechanics of that. And then Long Beach State wins its conference tournament. You know, had no business doing it. I'm sure the athletic director and the folks there didn't think in a million years they would do it.

They did it. Now he's shown up as the 15th seed. Long Beach State taking on Arizona. OK.

Which which I have winning the West region. So he's now. Coaching in the NCAA tournament. What if a week after he thought he got fired, win a couple of games, go to the league, or something.

How do you not rehire him? Right. And if you're Monson, do you tell him to pound sand?

I think so. Because, listen, he showed up with an edge at his press conference. Listen. Listen to how he started his press conference on Wednesday. I don't have to answer anything.

I don't want to because I'm working for free today. So it's like you guys see the Seinfeld winning when George Costanza was trying to get fired and couldn't lose his job and still going to work every day. And that's that's me.

I'm a Seinfeld episode going on right now in real life. Is it an opening statement? Was that it? What do we got going? I think you nailed it, coach.

That could be a new drop. I think you nailed it, coach. Now, the two episodes, is he conflating episodes? Because George, George was, was being recruited by the Mets when he was with the Yankees and he tried to get fired by the Yankees. That's when he attached all the trophies behind his car.

He tried to get fired and George wouldn't fire him. Right. There was one where he was, was he working for the Play Now? Yeah, the sports thing.

Right. Where he quit. And then Kramer told him just go back to work, which is what Larry David did in real life when he angrily quit Saturday Night Live and then rethought his decision. And I think the real Cosmo Kramer told them, just go back to work.

No one will remember. So is is he conflating the two episodes or perhaps he might be combining. But George did try to quit. Right. And they wouldn't get fired because was that the one where Wilhelm was in the cult? I don't know.

I don't know. That's why we have, I guess, Larry coming in studio an hour three to clean this all up. The cleaning cult that wouldn't hire George. How did they come up with this stuff, man? It's insane.

Best show ever. It really is. Honestly.

And it's literally stuff that's right in front of your face. But it's still funny. 30 years later, it's still funny. I know.

It's still funny. I want my kids to start watching it. But there are some episodes that are not kid friendly. And also, but there are some I would love to see what their reaction is, like, because there are some episodes that could not take place today because of technology. Right.

Like you just text someone and find out where they are. Right. Like where George had to go make the pay phone call at the Chinese restaurant. Right. Or even the Chinese restaurant episode. That's what I'm saying.

Seinfeld 4. Or couldn't find the car in the mall parking lot. Now it'd be just, Dad, just check your app. Yeah. You know, you ping your car. You take a picture of where you're parked, you know, on your phone. Right.

It's super easy. Yeah. And wasn't that the one where they went to Madison Square Garden? They wind up going with, like, the Nazi Madison Square Garden in the limousine. Stuck in the back of the limousine with the guy. Yeah.

Well, I think it was Peter Krause, I think. Yeah, he was in there. Right.

Yep. Let's see. We're ready for Larry. We just had our pre Larry conversation. I just posted a little clip from the group chat on our Instagram story.

Which is what? Where he and the guy at the end of the show where Larry was getting yelled at about not partaking in the group chat. Oh, yes.

That one that just had this episode this past week. Brilliant. Brilliant. So it's on our IG story. Because we've all been, I don't want to say here, because, you know, then I'd out my group chat. I was definitely didn't want to be part of anymore.

This one? No, not ours. I'm not part of yours anymore.

I'm actually happy. You know, everybody's been looped into group chats with people that, you know. Who are these people? And then the numbers, the numbers. You don't have your numbers. I know that. Yeah. What are we doing?

It's like, who is 976? And you want to say to the people what Larry David said on Sunday's episode of Curve. You want to get that out.

It really was cathartic for me to watch that scene. Group chat. No, honestly. What are we doing? All right, we'll take a break. 844-204 Rich, number to dial here on the program. Larry David's coming to the studio in hour number three.

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Whatever app you switch to, be sure to follow so you never miss the next episode. And thanks for listening wherever you listen. Well, it's just like, you know. Dog bites man. I shouldn't use that phrase. My dogs don't bite anybody.

No, you know, I know. Excuse me, if we're going to be putting dog up for dog here, who's more willing to, you know, I don't know what that means. Your dog versus my two two ladies. What are we doing?

What do you mean? If this was an NCAA tournament bracket? Oh, Maverick wins.

Maverick is a U-card. The Husky wins every time. In all seriousness, though, five versus twelve used to be so shocking. Now it happens all the time. So four versus thirteen.

You got to go a little bit more in the other direction. We've already seen now multiple, right? Two sixteens of one. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Two sixteens of one now. And Akron's going to just take Creighton to the limit. Although, hold on.

Words I've never said before. So Virginia lost in the first round as a one and then won the championship the next year. Purdue lost as a one last year. Look out. Purdue to win the whole thing now.

I'm with you. Yeah. By the way, CBS or TBS just showed Steph Curry video when he was at Davidson. Do you remember that?

Speaking of 155 pounds. Dude, do you remember him at Davidson? It was obvious, wasn't it? No one had ever heard of him.

I know that. But it was obvious how special he was, though. It wasn't this that he was going to turn out to be this. No, but you could tell he was special.

He was like, I wanted all I wanted the Knicks to get him in the worst way. But not where he is. I never could have. No, no, no.

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Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. Aaron Donald just spoken. Where do you speak? I saw this soundbite, but I don't know on what form this was.

He posted this on his on his Twitter site. But this is him explaining why he decided because I mean, this guy looks like he can give you a full game of snaps right now. But ten years, ten years, ten pro bowls, eight all pros, three defensive player of the years and rookie defensive player of the year.

Two NFC championships, three NFC West championships, went to two Super Bowls, won one, lost one. I'm complete. I'm full. I think the passion to play the game is no longer there for me. I will always love football. But the thing about going through another camp and another 17 season, I just don't get the urge to want to push myself to do that no more. I just I'm burned out. You know, I just the best way to say that I'm full. I'm complete.

I'm satisfied with what I was able to do in 10 years. And I think it's time for me to at 32 years old to retire from football and, you know, jump into the next step of my career, my life. And that's time to move on. You could see his eyes were glazing up, too. And good for him to realize that, to know.

To know, because I'll tell you what, man, if you are not all in, that's one bad thing, one. But but but the one place. The one place to tackle that you should make sure you are all in to go in is exactly where he's winding up, especially the attention he gets of all the videos that I saw when he retired because he retired last week when I was out of the chair. Of all the videos I saw as a professional, because the one that stands out was when he was in college, when he didn't know who got the football at the mesh point between the quarterback and the running back doing an RPO together. And he tackled them both, sacked them both. Yes.

I don't know which one of you has the ball, so I'll just take both of you down. He had the QB in one arm, the running back in his other and wrapped them both and took them both down. Correct. Is there was I think it was against the Dolphins I saw and he was lined up outside, actually. That's the other thing, too. It's not just him playing the same position. He's all over the lot. So he's going against up left tackles much larger than larger than him. And then centers who know exactly what they're doing with the football. And it's their first job to just hit him. OK, so he's he's on the edge and he's rushing the passer and three dolphins are blocking him and a fourth one, an interior lineman, sees it's Aaron Donald coming one on three and decides to become the fourth man. And he he got four blockers attention. I mean, so I know it's easy for us to say, like, he makes it look so simple. He looks like he's still built like the brick, you know what? And and he does it so so well. It's just like, why wouldn't you do it again for 30 million bucks?

Well, you're not the one putting the body on the line and knowing what has to do. That's that's that's a fact. So he's moving to his next phase of his career.

By the way, Marshall Falk retired at age 32 as well. Daniel Tomlinson. Right. Super. Yeah. So. Calvin Johnson, obviously, he he's got a lot more to figure out what he wants to do with his life.

So or he takes a year off and comes back. OK. No, I mean, Gronk did it. I don't know why. I got it. I got it. I mean, there's only 31. So he retired.

Let's talk about somebody who's moving to somewhere else. Saquon Barkley. Giants to the Eagles. The Eagles posted this video. Saquon telling the moment where he told his young daughter. About the move from the Giants to the Eagles and out of the mouth of the mouths of babes comes some of the most unvarnished truth. What the kids say, the darndest things.

Check it out. But my daughter, funny story with her. She knows there's a lot of history in my career with the Eagles.

There was one time when I was with the Giants and we lost to Philly in playoffs. We went to Diner to get some graphics and there was a bird. She was like, Daddy, oh, no, no. And I'm like, what is it? She points to the bird and she was like, it's the Eagles.

It's the Eagles. And me and Anna, you know, just started laughing. I just put my head down. I kind of start shaking. So when I told her that we're going to be going to Philly, she kind of was just like, does that mean we're going to win now? And I just started smiling again. I was like, hopefully, hopefully we're going to win some more games here.

Does that mean we're going to win now? Hey, Rich, you remember remember when Saquon had a tweet and there was that little blue hat there and no cap. I'm saying I'm calling cap on that. Oh, so this is one of those things that happens on Twitter all the time where my daughter, my daughter just said, well, stop lying. You're calling Saquon a liar here? I'm not calling him a liar. I'm not calling him a liar. What are you calling him? I'm saying, are you saying that he's not going to win more? Well, that, too.

But that's what I was taking. It's an embellishment that his kid understands the Eagles and the Giants and winning football. I'm sure she knows that Daddy plays a game. No, she knows that Daddy was in a playoff game and got smoked out of the playoffs by the Eagles. She saw that. Oh, so she equates.

I don't know. We're going to win. It sounds like a sweet way of the Eagles.

And so now does that mean we're going to win? Yeah, I get it. I feel like it sounds like a cute story. Wow. I'm not a cynical person either. So I'm not a cynical person. Let me just say the most cynical thing I could possibly think of.

One time in the history of this show that I've been the one to go. I don't know. Yeah, she doesn't normally do that. Thank you, Mike. I'm just saying he doesn't. It's all friend. Doesn't mean doesn't mean it's not completely off.

I'm just charts. I mean, it is a little cynical. Perfect. It's something that you write in a movie. I mean, you know, and she saw an eagle. I get it. It's a bird of a bird bird. You guys go with a pigeon. I don't know.

As the individual with the most children in the room. Oh, perfect. I mean, this is true. These things happen, OK? You're just the fun uncle who shows up. Hey, man. All right.

Yeah. You've just got the one boy who's Godfather. I get you getting older by the day. You just finished the you're in the three major portion of his life. Or now I know you've just finished the three major age.

I get it. But as somebody with four or three kids. OK, one off the books.

Nope. No, three, three kids, three kids. You just said four.

And I don't want to sign it. I know that one with three kids. I can count. I can count on that.

Antonio Cromartie over here, pal. I know. I know my name.

I know the number and by name. Back off. Back off.

This is entirely plausible is what I'm saying. It's wrong. I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong.

The greatest. Not everybody puts on airs and puts on stories. Just nobody does it.

No, but not everyone does it. OK. All right. All right. Michigan State up 15. Oh, this thing's a wrap.

And Duquesne. I'm looking great. Great.

Yeah. Two games in the NCAA tournament. You have a perfect bracket. I'm winning the whole thing.

Give me the money. It's going to work. Akron up three on Creighton. No, no, no, no.

That's great. No, Creighton's up three on now. Creighton's up three.

They were just down a second ago. No, I've got the I've got the I've got it all here. Let me let me handle the watching the live.

I'm doing a live. That was a very pachino like update my eyes. My eyes. I see something that's five minutes old. Akron. That's a score that doesn't actually happen anymore.

All right. Coming up in six minutes, Long Beach State. And by the way, by the way, the athletic director of Long Beach State said that he fired Dan Monson when he did to inspire the team. Well, it worked. It worked. My belief and hope is that by doing what I did in the timing of it, they would play inspired. And that's what they did. Bobby Smitherin told the Associated Press a few hours before Long Beach tipped off against Arizona, quote, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked, which I believe is Mike Del Tufo's life style mantra.

The hell going on? You should take that, Mike. That's your thing. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked, which is exactly what you would say. That's a perfect right. Mike Del Tufo is right. So Long Beach State, the athletic director is the Mike Del Tufo of A.D.'s. Well done.

Larry David, LD, coming up. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked. Now, the athletic director said that he doesn't buy into the narrative that too much has been made of Monson was fired.

I think this is really getting lost on people that we agreed that a change in leadership was necessary. This was something Coach Monson brought to me. Oh, my goodness. Now, my question is, let's assume that they do well. Well, they have to beat Arizona and they beat Arizona.

And what does he get his job back? That's it, Mike. Well, we just said that. I know that.

I'm saying I know that, but I'm saying seriously, you guys were joking about it. No, you can't bring him back. He gets a better job. OK, you can't bring it back. You fired him. This is happening, man.

The only person that gets fired and comes back is me from jobs. I've seen that. Fantastic. Fantastic.

Shut up. Here it comes. There we go. There it goes. Oh, four games are going to be in action in four minutes time.

We're going to try and keep up to speed here. I'm doing a CBS Red Zone. Do you think Larry filled out a bracket? I mean, why wouldn't he? I don't know, because I don't I don't know much college basketball he pays attention to. We didn't pay attention to any.

I know that. But we also have a show, you know, like we need to be involved in this somehow, some way. How have they not done like a red zone type thing for this? Larry David has arrived. We'll see how quickly we can get him out here. Our number three is coming up with the great Larry David. Hey, everybody, this is Dan Bespress, host of Fantasy NBA Today, a daily fantasy basketball podcast. We cover every box score from every game, every day. Plus bonus shows on by low opportunities, players to stash, schedule analysis and really anything you could need to smash your league into deliciously tiny pieces. Catch the Fantasy NBA Today podcast, part of the Believe Network on YouTube or wherever you listen.