Kyle Shanahan's legacy in the Big Game

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Phone calls, 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. We start our number two on January 23rd, 2022. Well, why do we do that? It was the night the Buffalo Bills took the lead in Arrowhead in a divisional game. And with 13 seconds to go, Patrick Mahomes looked dead to rights. It appeared that Mahomes would get got again in an AFC championship game at home, just like Brady got him in his first year. It looks like Josh Allen was going to do it. We all know it didn't happen because the Chiefs kicked a field goal to force overtime, won the toss, got the toss, marched down the field.

And Josh Allen, who had one of the best games by a quarterback in playoff history, not lying, sat there and watched as an eight-place, 75-yard drive in overtime wrapped things up for the Kansas City Chiefs. A bunch of people who were in the power seats, the National Football League, Competition Committee and membership said, we need to do something about this. We need to change the overtime rules for the playoffs.

And they got together in the Competition Committee meeting rooms in Florida and in Indianapolis. And went to the owner's meeting and presented it, and owners said, yes, we will change the rules. And from now on, what will happen is both teams will be assured of a possession in an overtime game in the postseason, even if the first possession of the overtime results in a touchdown.

The other team will have a chance to match. And sure enough, we had not seen a playoff game go to overtime until last night. And fittingly enough, it involved the Kansas City Chiefs. And remarkably, the decision as to what to do if you win the coin toss of the overtime, do you keep the ball or you kick it off, because there's a lot of strategy behind both decisions. That decision was placed in the hands of the man whose decisions on play calling and moments needing to be met in the playoffs had been questioned for years. That decision fell in the hands of Kyle Shanahan. Wow.

Go figure that. Niners win the toss and elect to receive. Now, I kind of dig the decision when I heard that from my seat in Allegiant Stadium last night, because Mahomes and the Chiefs had just wrapped up regulation with a game-tying field goal drive.

Eleven plays, 64 yards. And had gotten so much positive momentum towards the end of that drive, they had a shot at the end zone. And I was kind of surprised they only took one shot at the end zone. Me too, six seconds. There was six seconds left, and I guess Andy Reid's like, I'm not going to run the risk of some sort of weird stuff.

I thought the same thing. Or a turnover. I could have won it with no time left. And they kicked a field goal to tie the game and send it into overtime. And I kind of understood, like, we're not going to give the ball to Patrick Mahomes to start. Because our defense just got gashed after we took the lead. But that's not the decision making philosophy or the philosophy behind the decision that was made by Shanahan. He made the decision based on the fact that under the new overtime rules, which a lot of people apparently didn't know, including a lot of his own players and the guy who caught the game-ending touchdown pass, Mikol Hardman, who said, I guess he said he blacked out, but Mahomes said he didn't know the rule.

He's like, hey, man, we just won the Super Bowl. He didn't know that it ended the game. And a lot of people apparently thought that if the Chiefs didn't get the snap off towards the end of the first overtime, that was going to be the end of the game, they only got one overtime period.

No, it's the playoffs. You could go into a second overtime. And so on and so forth, the second overtime had the Chiefs just kicked that field goal, that would have been a sudden death situation, which is the point of keeping the ball first. By keeping the ball first, you set the agenda, your defense knows what you need to hold the opponent to. And if there's a matching of your score, you now get the first possession of sudden death overtime. So you could just march down the field, kick a field goal and end it. The only problem with that decision is once you put your score on the board or maybe lack of score. You are now allowing your opponent to know exactly exactly what they have to do.

There's no choice in the matter. Certainly when they're on their side of the field, they have to match or if they want to, exceed. But in terms of on their side of the field, they now have every down at their possession because they're going to go for it on fourth down if they need to match your score. They're going to go on fourth down and distance regardless in their own end zone or in their own end of the field. And Mahomes and the Chiefs did on a fourth and one from deep in their own end. I mean, you think they would have gone for it on fourth and one from their own thirty four if they if they had the first possession in overtime? Of course not. You don't think.

Who knows in this crazy world. And Shannon's getting blown up for this today because you allowed Mahomes to know exactly what he needed to do. This is what Shannon said about his philosophy after the game.

It's just something we talked about with, you know, that none of us have a ton of experience of it, but we went through all the analytics and talked to those guys and we decided to be better. We wanted the ball third. Both teams matched and scored. We wanted to be the ones who had the chance to go win. And we got that field goal. So we knew we had to hold them to at least a field goal.

And if if we did, then we thought it was in our hands after that. So and I get it. I totally get it. We've been talking about this for a year and a half. Once this new rule change came into being, we had John Harbaugh of the Ravens on top of April of 2022.

They had just changed the rule. We had Harbaugh on pre draft to just chop it up with him. And I started asking him, like, what would your philosophy be if you have a decision to take the ball first under these new rules or give the ball to your opponent first?

You get it second. I even asked him, is it possible you'd win the toss and kick it off to your opponent in the same way that everybody now second guessing Kyle Shanahan says he should have done? This is what Harbaugh had to say.

It is a possibility, Rich. I think that's something that it does become more viable of an option, no doubt. Although I still think having possession first is is still going to what people are going to look at and say is a plus, because if it's a guy, two great quarterbacks, you know, if it's the Mahomes Allen type situation, both both offenses are going strong. Both quarterbacks are playing strong. You know, if both teams score that, I'm still going to get the extra possession and now it's going to be sudden death. So, you know, the Chiefs score, the bills come back and score. I still want to be the Chiefs. I want to have that third possession.

So I still think that's kind of going to be what people are going to be thinking about. Isn't it a distinct advantage, though, for the offense to get it second? Because you'd never go for it.

I shouldn't say that, but, you know, it would be very rare for you to go for it in an overtime game, fourth and eight from your own, you know, 20. But you definitely are going to do that if you have to. Right. So isn't that a distinct advantage? That's such a good point. I mean, that's the point. Like my argument on the whole thing is that that's why I'm not for it, you know, and and even though our team voted for it, they voted for it over my objection because I don't think it solves the problem.

And the only way to solve the possession, possession is nine tenths of the law. It's the most important aspect of the game or anything. The only way to do this is we tried to mitigate it last year by with field position, which is two things, possession and field position.

And I got three votes. So now we're just going to add possessions and it's like, well, how many possessions are we going to add and when is it going to stop? And are we going to extend the game into the fifth quarter, the sixth quarter?

You know, we're going to keep tacking plays on. So, you know, I'm not bashful about saying it to you. You're my friend. I love you.

I sit in front of the whole league. So, you know, I'm not for it. I don't think it's I don't think it's the answer. I think there's a there'll be a better way to do it at some point in time. But we did have to do something.

And I I really respect Jeff Lurie, the Eagles and some of the other teams are really trying to do something to make it more fair. So that's kind of where we're at with it. But this thing still is full of holes in terms of just extending, you know, adding more plays to the game.

And really, what have you really solved? Well, we almost said we haven't we all we almost had a sixth quarter last night. But in a weird way, the new overtime rule didn't actually take place last night because the Niners kicked the field goal.

Right. And so the Chiefs under the under the regular of the rule, how it was, the Chiefs would have got a chance to answer anyway, which they got and converted to win the game. But it still made the even even now you're looking at it in hindsight. Well, the 49ers look at the time of the old rule, they would have taken the ball first anyway because the score touchdown game's over. So I don't think it really would have changed their play calling inside the red zone anyway. They weren't going for it on fourth down. You could tell because they ran the third down and four pass play. They were setting up to try to get a first down in that play, not make it closer so they could go for it on fourth. But I totally know what you're saying.

That's that's hindsight. But from the very beginning, do you give the ball to Mahomes first? So now you know exactly what you need to do to either win the game or tie the game. And that's what Chris Jones said after the game that Andy Reid and the Chiefs had told him and the defense during the summer to basically say, if we ever get in this situation, get ready because we're going to put you the defense out on the field first, then we will know what we have to match. And if it's a touchdown, we're going to not only go and score the touchdown, we're going to go for two and end it.

Amazing. So that would have been the plan had the Chiefs won the toss to start overtime in the same way that they had won the toss to start the game. And so that is the way that everyone is talking about it and looking at it now. I just wanted to put it out there because I didn't have a problem with Shanahan taking the ball first.

I didn't. And as a matter of fact, you want to talk and I understand that there's a lot of criticism of Shanahan's play calling. If there's any criticism of his play calling, it would have to be McCaffrey only touching it once after scoring the touchdown in a span of about an hour on the clock. Now, I understand that Kansas City had the ball towards the end and then there's halftime and they got the ball first, but they started throwing it in those possessions at the top of the third quarter after the interception. Other than that, you know, they weren't playing to not to lose at one when they got the go ahead touchdown. And by the way, missing the extra point on that go ahead touchdown led to the overtime possibility that actually hit and everything that happened here.

I thought he had his Dan Campbell moment from the Kansas City 15. They went for it on fourth and three and threw it to Kittle instead of tying the game with a field goal on the spot, scored the touchdown. And if they had gone up 17-13, that would have changed the entire dynamic. They missed that extra point. They did not convert that extra point.

And man, was that a huge development. So and I thought Shanahan's play calling was terrific in that overtime. It was Chris Jones who just came free on third and four. Chris Jones saved the day because if you look at that play, a couple of guys were open.

Purdy would have had his choice. So you just have to sometimes tip your cap to the Niners defense, I mean, to the Chiefs defense. And and then I guess I mean that Mahomes scramble. He had third and short the fourth and one. Well, the fourth and one carry was kind of just let's see if Bosa crashes and I'll pull it. Yeah, you know, if he does, if he does too big. The other one was that that was the back breaker that put him in the red zone rushing.

I'm telling you. This is, you know, a comment like John Harbaugh and a lot of coaches would have gotten and taken the ball first, I think. The strategy makes sense.

But you just saw last night how it all plays out. If you get the ball second, you got all four. You can play the game like Madden, like an eight year old plays back.

Well, you know, you're going down. Yeah, exactly. So until, though, you get into the field goal scoring zone, now you got to think about it. Now you got to think about it, which is why on that third and one when Mahomes broke contain and put it in the red zone with his legs, that was a killer because if they were able to sack Mahomes there like they had done so many times during the game, been able to maybe lock down Kelsey and Rice like they did many times during the first half, if they were able to put the Chiefs in a position of saying, are we going to go for it on fourth and short here, in overtime, down three, when we got the butt kicker that can send this thing to a third possession, now the Niners have the ball in sudden death, which is the point of why they kicked it off in overtime, figuratively by taking the ball. You know, I thought a really wild scenario here is that if you're the Chiefs and the Niners are like, we'll take the ball, do you go on sides and shock them, try and get the ball? Now it's sudden death and all you need is a field goal to win it. And if you don't get it, well, then it's a short field and you know, the Niners will put up whatever points you need to know you have to beat anyway. You're getting the ball second, you know what you'll have to do. Sure, you're kind of coughing up the benefit of what almost happened, but a defensive holding bailed the Niners out of a hole to start overtime where they wound up in a third and long and it looked like they were going to punt and go three and out. Yeah, you're coughing up that opportunity to have your defense just go three and out, have a nice, quick, defensive hold, get the ball. And now you're in a sudden death situation where a field goal will win it. You're kind of foregoing that when you attempt an onside kick. And we all know an onside kick in this day and age now is so very difficult, odds wise to pull it off. That's when people know it's coming. I was kind of thinking the other way.

But the short serve doesn't matter is what I'm saying. I was thinking the other way. You kick the field goal, you go up three. Now the Chiefs are expecting you to kick off. You onside their recover game over. Well, I mean, now you're giving also Mahomes a short field to just tie the game or win it.

Yeah, same situation. You're losing the momentum, too, after just scoring. There's just so many ways about this that I was kind of, I'll be honest, I was kind of surprised when I looked down at my phone heading to the airport and I'm reading all the conversation, like, Shanahan blew it by taking the ball to start. I mean, there's a benefit to taking it and there's a benefit to kicking it off. And unfortunately for the 49ers, they stalled inside the 10 and the Chiefs did not.

And that's the end of it. It also just felt like throughout the whole game, the 49ers let the Chiefs hang around, hang around, hang around. That was my point, too, about the Shanahan play calling. If you want to put it in 20 to three or they should have been up two or three scores throughout the whole game and weren't. When you have an opportunity to hold the Chiefs before and after halftime to just three points.

Yeah, man, you should be killing them. That's exactly what you need to have happen. If you lose the toss and the Chiefs defer, you know what their gambit is here. Certainly if they're behind like they were, they can come back quickly or they can boat race you by scoring on each side of halftime. And instead they only got three and then they before halftime and then they threw a pick because Bosa was everywhere and Mahomes forced it, he forced it and you get the interception. But then you go three and out, you lose yardage and then stupid. You get the Chiefs again punting, then you go three and out again.

That was the moment. That's where when you are going against the team and everybody thinks because the Chiefs were as vulnerable as they've ever been. And as flawed as they've ever been in this dynastic run that you still don't have to be on your P's and Q's and at any little mistake you make can be used against you by this dynastic team just because that dynastic team was so flawed that they don't immediately hit you back with the ultimate retort of a touchdown. But you still allow them to gather their steam when you're going to regret it. You've got to hit them with a staggering blow and potentially, dare I say, knockout punch. Then, then otherwise you're letting stuff like what we're talking about in overtime happen.

Yeah. And look, just opening drive of the game. The Niners get the ball in March, March, March. They're going to score, if not a touchdown, at least three points.

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In the end zone where everything ended. Oh, cool. That's awesome.

You're about 20-something yards up. And I took some pictures of the setup for... I just geek out also on how remarkable. Everyone focuses on the halftime showing what it sounds like, what it looks like, and all of that stuff. But I focus on how quickly they set it up. Yeah, in and out.

Yeah. Exactly, as soon as both teams left at halftime, there's a bunch of folks on the field just picking up, I guess, dirt or whatever is on the field, tape and whatever. This was eight minutes and 40 seconds apart between the teams leaving and then Usher taking the field right there.

And then this was after Usher leaves, and then five minutes and change later, the players are out there warming up for the second half there. It's unreal. Wow. You know?

I've watched them roll stuff in and out. It's amazing, Rich. It's amazing. It's amazing. It really is. And how often they practice it.

Yeah, it was eight minutes and 45 seconds between cleanup of the first half to get the turf clean and then Usher starting to sing, and then five minutes and 40, 54 seconds between Usher stopping singing and the players out there ready to practice and warm up for the second half. Pretty cool. It is cool. I do. And then, of course, the fact that it looks like that at television at home, I mean, and they create it out of whole cloth in just minutes. It's just amazing to me.

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What's up? Well, this is the third straight Super Bowl where Kyle Shanahan's taking his foot off the gas pedal. You know, in Atlanta, they were up 28 to 3, and then last Super Bowl against the Chiefs, they were up 20 to 10 with seven minutes to go. And I thought with the way McCaffrey was running early on, I thought they were gonna stick with it and just stick the knife in the Chiefs, but, you know, like you guys said earlier in the earlier segment, they let him hang around, and the result is what you see. Well, that was the top of the third quarter, though, Rich.

I mean, I just gotta push back here. The man went for it on fourth and three at the Kansas City 15. Instead of going for the game time field goal, he flips it out to Kittle, and then, you know, then he does run McCaffrey for one yard, and then Purdy throws another dart to Juwan Jennings, who also had a touchdown pass earlier in the game. Talk about a bag of tricks. I mean, what more do you want the guy to do, you know? I mean, and then they miss the extra point.

What a crusher. I mean, there were times, though, where I felt that, like, they were passing on early downs and they could have ran the football when McCaffrey was getting four to five yards a pop, you know, and I just felt they just got away doing what they did well, and, you know, this is gonna be a hot take. I'm about to throw you right now, but Shanahan's under contract through 2026. I don't know if you're in any rush to extend him because, like I said, he's taken his foot off the gas three times in a row. I mean, is he ever gonna be able to get you over the hump with Bill Belichick on the open market right now? I hear you, Rich, and I understand your pain or your concern, and I appreciate the call, Rich.

I totally get it. I don't know what the Niners are gonna do. I think Jed York loves him. I think, obviously, John Lynch loves him, and I'll say the same thing about him, the same thing I say about Tomlin. You know, if he's on the market, he'll be snapped up in five seconds.

I don't think the Niners will be coached by somebody other than Kyle Shanahan any time soon, and in the post-mortem of Super Bowl 58 when it comes to the San Francisco 49ers, I will just say this, if I had told you going into the weekend that the 49ers were going to lose this game, would you have said the reason why would have because Brock Purdy didn't meet the moment? If I asked 10 people that, right, or 100 people that, what would be the percentage of people who would say it's because Purdy didn't meet the moment, it was too big for him, and so on and so forth? I don't know. Four out of five, probably. About 80%.

Yeah, somebody would be high. Guess what? He was terrific. He was terrific. Terrific.

Terrific is strong. Chris, he was terrific. He played good enough to win the game, but not quite good enough. He did the exact same thing that Garoppolo did. He had Deebo for a touchdown and overthrew him.

Here's what I will say about that, that yes, he was open. Mahomes missed a ton of throws last night, too. And the thing is both defenses were so on point last night. They were hitting. They were not just hitting. They were covering.

Yeah. They were covering. And I guarantee you that all 22 crews that are out there over the next 24 to 48 hours will be talking about how remarkable the cornerbacks for the Kansas City Chiefs are and how Deebo was getting jammed and Iook and Deebo at what, like five catches for one yard at one point combined in the third quarter? Deebo dropped a couple over the middle, too. And so, again, Purdy was thrown into some tight windows and you have to tip the cap to the Chiefs defense. Leo Chanel knocked the ball loose from McCaffrey when it looked like the Niners were steam rolling towards points to start the game. He also blocked the extra point. Chris Jones, a free running Chris Jones right up the middle will force an incomplete pass on any quarterback, including his own. And that's what happened on the third and four in overtime that led to a settling field goal to start overtime that we all know the Chiefs cashed in to win it.

Purdy was under duress. Purdy made an incredible throw that got called back due to a hold because he was breaking contained to his left and he kept the play alive. He threw it to a wide open kiddle on the opposite side of the field. That was early in the game. He also made a stutter step move going to his right, juked out a defender and use check was open and had a Dez caught it moment, if you remember, he caught it and then put the ball out and hit the ground and you thought, well, that's an incomplete pass.

No, because they changed that rule. Plus he was already out of bounds by the time the ball popped up. You check made a heck of a play, but sort of the quarterback.

This dude was taking it in the chops. The throw he made to Jennings, the throw he made to Kittle. They put the ball in Purdy's hands on fourth and three instead of going for the game tying field goal.

They're like Purdy make the throw to Kittle. He did. He did. He's a good player. He got him exactly where Jimmy G took him. I think that's unfair, but that's your opinion.

And I think a lot of people will share it. I think that's an unfair opinion. I just think that the chief's defense is championship quality and Purdy held more than just his own in his first career Super Bowl start. He came out on point in that first drive. One point.

He was comfortable. He looked, by the way, easily his best game of the playoffs. Easily the best game of the playoffs in the Super Bowl. So you've got to tip your cap on that third down. If the Niners had anything back, could take anything back, it could take a lot back, but one was the third down coming out of the two minute warning at the end of regulation. If they had picked up that first down, the Chiefs had only two timeouts left. They would have burned him and then the Niners could have taken it down to about a buck twenty and then there would have been the real play call of Shanahan's life.

Like what do you do on third down after you've caused the Chiefs to burn both of those timeouts or do you throw it when you know the Chiefs are going to have to burn timeouts? I mean, that's where they had the Chiefs dead to rights. They were able to play call their way and execute their way into a situation where they come out of the two minute warning and this thing was theirs. They could have done exactly to the Chiefs what the Chiefs did to the Eagles last year, which is take it down to the nub and leave them with no time left after a field goal and win the Super Bowl. Now I understand the Chiefs had the benefit of a defensive penalty to help them out in it, but maybe so could the Niners have had it too. They got a defensive penalty to give him a fresh set of downs in overtime, didn't they?

But instead, I mean, you got to tip your cap to Spagnolo. He sends Trent McDuffie wide open at Purdy and that thing was dead from snap. And the Chiefs now had two timeouts and just a three point deficit left and they damn near won it in regulation at the end also. And then there's this, is it Purdy's fault? This is what's going to really hurt the Niners and I get it.

This is not Purdy's fault at all. But this one came across my desk just moments ago here from NFL Network Research. The Chiefs trailed 42 minutes and five seconds in the game. The only team that won the Super Bowl that trailed longer was the Super Bowl 17 Washington team against Miami. They trailed 42 minutes and 57 seconds in that game before winning. The Chiefs in overtime became the first team in Super Bowl history to win after trailing four separate times in the game, four. The only other team to win a playoff game in which they trailed four more times in the last 10 post seasons was also the Chiefs. You know when that was? This year's playoffs. That's what happens when you have Mahomes who's now nine and two in games in which he's trailed in the playoffs at least by seven or more points. Everyone else, as I've told you last week, is under 500 in their careers in such situations.

But the one thing that would kill him, if I had told you, if I had told you, what if I told you? It's San Francisco 49er fans. Would you have signed for this one? The Chiefs would start Super Bowl 58. Punt, punt, red zone fumble, punt, field goal, that's your first half possessions. Signed for it, right?

Absolutely. Then the second half possessions, interception, punt, field goal, punt. You signed for that too, right? Problem is that second punt was the muff punt. And once that happened, Chiefs scored a touchdown. They finished up their following possessions. Their five final possessions was punt and then get it back on a muff, touchdown, field goal, field goal, touchdown.

Changed the whole game. Right. That's not Purdy's fault. No, hold on a minute. No, hold on a minute. They missed chances. Hold on a minute. As I keep returning, as I keep returning, the early part of the third quarter is when you needed to have these body blows and then staggering hits.

They should have been up by so much where the muff punt really wouldn't have mattered. So is it play calling? Is it Purdy?

I don't know. I'm not an all 22 guy. All I know is I'm sitting in the end zone watching this game in person. And I'm like, this kid is tough. And man, does he make throws. Does he make throws. Bottom line is he's better than 30 other quarterbacks in this league today. His season was unreal.

But the one. And he did not shrink in that moment last night. He did not. He did not. If I'm a Niner's fan, I'm happy with him. I would think so.

Would you? Look, I'll just point it out. By the way, he already has the blame it on me post game approach. This is what he had to say after Super Bowl 58. When you have a good offense like the Chiefs do and what Mahomes can do, for us, it's like, all right, we have to score touchdowns. And we had opportunities to do so, I think. Shot ourselves in the foot with just penalties and the operations and stuff. So I got to be better in terms of leading the guys and just I think how I handle things in the huddle and telling them what to expect.

Stuff like that. But yeah, at the end of the day, I think we have the team, the offense to score touchdowns. And I think I failed to put our team in position to do that. I love the kid. I think he's got the stuff. I think he's got the stuff. And at this point in time, though, you just throw them on the other pile of quarterbacks that are seemingly unfortunate to be playing in the time of the Mahomes-Kelsey-Reed era.

That burrow was able to pop through once and Brady twice. So I'll ask you this, Chris, and you answer this too, TJ. If you can go get Cousins and just tell Purdy you're now the backup, would you do that? Because Purdy's making backup money. You can do it. Absolutely not. You can go out and tell Cousins, come to San Francisco, let's win a Super Bowl right now. We'll pay you 40, whatever, 50 million bucks a year, even though he now skips the line.

You have to take this into account too. It's not fantasy football. He skips the line on a bunch of people that are waiting to get paid in that locker room who have gone the distance and put it all out there, blood, sweat, and tears for this organization. And then, A, we'll get to you at some point, just not this year, because we had to go give Kirk all his money. And Brock Purdy is easily, easily benched because it doesn't break your cap. It's not like you're benching somebody who's making 20 million bucks a year. Do you do that?

No, I think you got to run it back. Okay. I do too. Right? I mean, Brock Purdy, I think, is going to be there for the next decade. I saw that last night, man. I just... I'm like, not for a second, and I thought, wow, the guy who didn't look great in the rain against Green Bay and the guy who, with the rest of the offense, struggled in the first half against the Lions and needed to pull it out of his orifice to get to the Super Bowl, he just doesn't have it.

The moment's too big for him. I didn't see that at all, man. Do you think they have cousins this year instead of Purdy, they win the Super Bowl? No.

Like what? No. So Kirk Cousins is in that moment last night? Not him?

Again, I don't think it was him. Chris, you're a big fan of putting out Kirk Cousins' flaws during primetime games. I understand, but Kirk Cousins played under this Shanahan system.

But it's still a primetime game, right? And with all these... I do not... I did not look at that.

Again, I'm not an All 22 guy. I bet you we'll see more about how good the Chiefs' corners are in the All 22 community over the next 24, 48 hours than Purdy missed it. He missed this throw. He missed that throw.

I'd wager on that. This play in overtime, Brandon Iuch is so wide open, but Chris Jones is unblocked. Unblocked? What are we doing? What are we doing?

What are we doing? If the Chiefs could have chosen one guy to be unblocked on that do or die play, they'd have chosen 95. I've watched his play 100 times in the last few minutes. He's so...

Right? That's not 13's fault. He's not even touched.

That's not 13's fault. Unless we learn there's some sort of protection he could have called at the line. Maybe. I mean, Iuch is just standing in the end zone, doing jumping jacks. I did say at one point, just to be funny, during the game that Juwan Jennings was the best quarterback on the 49ers team, but I was just... At one point, MVP was literally down to Juwan Jennings and Harrison Butler. No doubt.

And Jake Moody before Juwan Jennings had caught the touchdown pass. Yup. No. Just jokes. Just jokes. And by the way, everything that we just talked about over the last first hour and 40 minutes... Was it in the script?

No, it's not. Of this game. Everything we just talked about, about this game, this game started 0-0, nothing, nothing after one. You're right. If you had 0 and 0 in your boxes, you won the first quarter. And that's because the Offensive Player of the Year fumbled in the red zone. Dude, get out of here. What are we talking about?

I know. At halftime, I was like, is this gonna be an all-time stinker of a game? Well, I thought Panthers Patriots 20 years ago started 0-0 and ended up with 60 points. Well, I was telling Jerry Silbowitz, Agents of the Stars, who was my plus one last night when it was going to the second quarter, that first... Look up the box score. First and third quarters of Super Bowl 38 were nothing. Second and fourth quarters were points of Palooza. Points of Palooza.

844-204, rich number to dial. Daniel Jeremiah coming up in hour number three. Merrill Hodge had an interesting take on Caleb Williams. And Merrill has been quite the seer when it comes to whether a quarterback will pan out in the NFL. So that'll be part of our conversation with Daniel Jeremiah in hour number three.

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I actually, hey, everybody I know, Roku, you just saw the process, the filter. People don't care. We'll just do it off here. Oh, okay. Is it about us or something?

No, no, it's not about us. Oh, okay. All right. But you know what the best thing about us is?

Because it's about us. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. So. All right.

All right then. That was a weird way to... You don't want to think, nah, forget it. The hell going on?

We would definitely, we would definitely not have a show if that's the way it went. Yeah, right? Like all the time. You know what I'm saying? Ah, no, forget it.

Usually we would just say what we're thinking. Yeah. Would that be a new show on the Roku channel? Ah, no. Nah, forget it. Nah, dot, dot, dot. Forget it. Nah, forget it. The big thing was... Nah, forget it.

Right there. Did you guys... Oh, here's one thing. Oh. Here's one thing. We can't talk about it?

Steve Mariucci went to the Shaq thing on Friday night. Oh, yeah. Oh, word.

The fun house? He said it's the first time he's ever been to a club. Oh. In his life. Interesting. I think. How many times do you think Mariucci's been to a club? I mean, young Steve.

In the Northern Michigan Iron... How many clubs are in Iron Mountain, Michigan, in the Northern Michigan University? And then he starts coaching and having kids? What do you think? He went club? It was the first time he was in his club. So I said to him, how was it? And all he went was like this.

He saw some things, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. At the Shaq event. The fun house. Is that what it is?

Yeah. Shaq, Shaq's fun house. Mooch put the house in fun house?

I would think him and Tom Izzo back in the day is young 20-something. Dude, what are you talking about, though? How many clubs? Don't think so. At all.

A Vegas nightclub? Are you kidding me? No. Is Owen Mooch out there on the dance floor? Definitely not.

Not at all. Nico Hardman. Back on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-RICH, number to dial, back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk, furnished by Grainger, with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Nico Hardman just tweeted about an hour ago that he still hasn't been to sleep. I bet not. The adrenaline's still pumping. Let me just say something.

Let me say something, okay? A lot of folks watching last night's game and seeing Nico Hardman score the game-winning touchdown to end the longest Super Bowl ever, almost, at a double overtime game. And they used the cornhole play, the same play that they used with Sky Moore and Caderas Corn Dog. Corn Dog. Corn Dog.

That's what I played against on Wednesday. And you read food-related. You know what I mean? Corn Dog.

Pardon me. They used the Corn Dog play. Same thing they used with Sky Moore and Caderas Toney. Fourth straight Super Bowl, in which a player acquired mid-season, scored in that year's Super Bowl for the team that acquired him. It was Caderas Toney last year. It was Odell Beckham Jr. the year before that. It was Antonio Brown for the Bucs the year before that.

And so, you know, there's that. But what I was thinking was, of course, it's the guy the Jets coughed up. The Jets had him, because he was going to be the guy who was going to be corn dogging for Aaron Rodgers. Right?

That was all part of the plan. Rodgers would get his guys from Green Bay, and we'd get a guy from a Super Bowl winner. Right? That's what we'd get. And he would be corn dogging, and he would be running, and he would be catching, and he'd be Meeko Hardman.

And then he turned out to be as useless as Dalvin Cook. Oof. That's... Yep. That's true. Yep.

Yep. Just keep throwing him on a log of people who were previously great, or subsequently great, who turned out to be totally useless with the Jets. Favre was kind of like that, when it all came down to it with him.

Favre was like eight and three or something. Dude, please. Please. Everything that was going on there, too. Whatever. Just leave it.

All right? It was just a transfer portal to the Vikings. He wanted his pound of flesh on the Packers, and he knew he wasn't getting it with the Jets.

He knew he just had to get out before he could get back. True. At Green Bay. Tim Tebow. Let's not forget him. Remember Tebow time?

Hey, let's get him on the Jets. The hell. But Meeko Hardman, of course, Jets couldn't use him, and the Chiefs turned out strong to gold.

Well, Meeko predicted it. Remember? Oh, whatever.

He also fumbled through the end zone and all that. Oh, yeah. Right.

You predicted with Oz, right? Yeah. Okay, great. He said we'd beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl. He just meant the Chiefs, not the Jets.

The Chiefs. Right. Hey. Sorry. Sure. Thanks. That's what I thought. Of course, it's Hardman. No problem.

I tweeted that out. Of course, it's Hardman. It had nothing to do with that he's a former Chief, and it's Hardman. Right.

No. It had to do with the Jets coughed him up. He was useless there.

You take him, Kansas. Did he? Oh, yeah. We'll end the season and go back to back.

And he had that 50-yard bomb catch that set up right before Pacheco's fumble. Thank you. Anyway.

Sorry. So, when Hardman scored, we were almost having a second halftime. We were close.

So close. So close to an overtime. Second overtime. So I guess, well, maybe we'd have to go to a third overtime for there to be a second halftime? Right. Yeah, because the Chiefs would have had to settle for a field goal there. Right.

And maybe they'd come down and trade punts, and then no score in the second. Who knows? Now, let me ask you this question. You know how when you go to a concert, and you cheer, and they leave, and then they come back and do an encore? Right. As a matter of fact, when Suzy and I saw U2 in the sphere on Wednesday night, Bono apologized for doing what he said was, he didn't call it typical, what did he call it? He just, the fake construct of making you cheer for another song when we know we're going to play one anyway.

Yeah. There's going to be an encore regardless. He apologized.

He actually apologized for that. So the question is, would they have brought Usher back out? They would have had to have done a halftime, right? They wouldn't have just kept playing.

They would have had to give these guys a break. No, I think they'd have to keep playing. No, they'd keep playing.

Really? They'd play four consecutive quarters without a break? Keep playing. They would have had to have done some sort of 12 minute break. Because it's not like we're cutting down the quarter time, right? You're still playing.

It was still 15 minutes. Did Usher leave? Did he leave?

No, I don't think so. Usher's hanging in a box somewhere. Could they have busted the roller skates out for one more time? That part was cool.

I hear you. Well, I think maybe they had a list set up, like Jay-Z was there, they may have pulled him out. By the way, there were tons, like you had Taylor Swift, Lizzo, Ariana Grande, Bieber, he was there. Paul McCartney, you said, right? Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani, Reba McEntire was still there, Lady Gaga, McCartney.

Yeah, McCartney. You're in a We Are The World situation, Mike, they could have just gotten away with it. That's exactly, that's what they do.

The making of We Are The World part two is, you gotta say, hey, we gotta pitch in so these guys get some rest. And we know Taylor Swift had a few drinks in her, so she's gonna really better rip. Like any time they showed her, and they rarely showed her, but the couple times- No, they didn't really.

No, they showed her a lot. In the stadium. In the stadium. None of her fans were booing. Of course they're booing.

Yeah, of course. She's a Chase fan. Why wouldn't you boo? Yeah, she's the enemy. But as soon as she won, the first time they showed her, as soon as she was on camera, she just grabbed the beer and she shotgunned it. Which apparently now on Twitter, she's a horrible role model, because she's a 34-year-old woman. Whatever. But would they- Is that a thing really? She's a step-father that's gone around and said, we need you. Or just like, hey, you wanna do it?

You might do it. By the way, comedians, Sebastian Maniscalco plays the sold-out stadium. He was there.

He coulda done it. Kimmel. Kimmel was there.

Carrot Top. After the third halftime. He was there. WWE had a bunch of people there. We'll throw Bailey, Mercedes, Monet.

Yeah, get a ring shot at Billie. I don't know what. A couple tables. Ray Macario can referee. Next year in New Orleans, contingency plan. Right?

Let's do it. Lights could go out there. A second halftime show. A second halftime show. A second halftime show. Second halftime show.

You gotta prepare. I better see no limit. No, you see, that was in the end zone.

No limit. I think Method Man was in Vegas too. The Woo was everywhere, Rich. Well, I saw the Woo. Well, the Woo had a two-day residency. Yeah, the Woo has residency. I'm going next month, I think. The 9th and 10th. Staten Island and Vegas? So you Staten Islanders are everywhere, Rich. So I had a longer residency in Vegas than them.

Three days. Well, to start with, yeah, but they're gonna continue for the time. Power at your boy. That's right. That's how it could have started. That could have started the second halftime show. Contingency halftime show. Good fantasy.

That's my man right there. And we'd kick Apple right out. It would be the Rich Eisen Show Presents.

Oh, yeah. Oh, we're in. I don't know if we could afford it. I was gonna say, how much are we paying? You wanna pass the hat around? I was gonna pay for that.

We're gonna pay for overtime now in the Super Bowl. Apple. I love it. Seriously, who would you have wanted to hear from? Oh, Ariana Grande, because she needs to do it. That is the most unexpected thing of all. I've seen Lady Gaga do it. I've seen McCartney do it. I've seen Beyonce do it. Yeah, I haven't seen Taylor Swift do it.

How are you not going Taylor Swift? No. Yeah.

I have the real one. Well, Rich, we're the only ones that didn't see her in concert last week. I know that. Yeah. She's gotta be the second. She's gotta be the main halftime.

Ariana Grande would be perfect for that. No, I want Jay-Z and Beyonce. What are you, crazy?

No. I already saw them. When?

Did you see them? Beyonce already did it. Jay-Z did not. Well, Jay-Z, yeah.

He was after the fact. Ariana Grande out of everybody. Yeah.

What? She's phenomenal. I know she is.

Seven rings, baby. Come on. Big, big. I'm a big fan of Ariana Grande. I'm a big fan of Ariana Grande.

She's totally convinced. How about Lizzo? She's like Ariana Grande. Ah, now Lizzo would have too many other people with her.

She's actually used the- What do you mean? Usher brought out like four different people. Yeah, because half of his songs have them. Lizzo used Minnesota Vikings in one of her songs.

That's true. The lyric. If they were in the Super Bowl, then most definitely she would have came out. I'm just- I want the wrestling match.

I look for performance. I'm staggered by that punch. I'm going to be honest with you, I wasn't impressed last night.

And I've seen a lot of them live in the rehearsals. Mikey was good. Mikey just was- I didn't ruin it. It wasn't, it just didn't, I wasn't, it's not in my top 10. I thought the halftime show was kind of like the game.

It started really slow and then finished awesome. Yeah, it was like a Vegas show. And like the Niner's new face, they were on roller skates at the end. That wasn't money. You had to like roller skate tonight?

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