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I want to know. Well, you came on, man. The competitor in me says, man, absolutely. It doesn't matter who's on the other side of that ball, man. I feel like I can shut you down. And we counted on that. Absolutely.

Absolutely. You guys bring up Tyreek Hill. I just feel like, in my humble opinion, watching football and watching all of the great young talent out there, Tyreek Hill is the best wide receiver in football right now.

He is number one, and everybody else is second, third, fourth, and fifth, however you want to put them. But his speed, for one, is the scariest thing about him, of course, because he can catch any pass, and he can take it the distance. He can outrun any angle. But I think just over the course of his career, he's gotten better at his route running as well.

And so to combine a guy with speed like that and route running ability, most guys that are that fast do not run great routes, and he can do it all. So unbelievable game he played the other day, and then Tua as well. He's had his doubters, but man, bring that team back and go down there and score the way that they did. And I just think they kind of put everyone on notice that with a healthy Tua, and second year under Mike McDaniel, Vic Van Viel being in there, I think, is important for that defense. He dialed up some great blitzes late in the game to get the ball out of the Chargers hands.

And so, yeah, man, I loved everything about what the Miami Dolphins did last week. And great point you made about the second year in that offense. Tyreek made the same point after the game that he feels so much more comfortable the second year in the offense. He said last year all he did was use his speed. This year he's building a lot more into his play than simply speed. Yeah, the one thing you do for any player, when you go into a new offense, defense, whatever it is, you just try to learn what it is that is expected of you for that offense or that set or that personnel grouping. And you want to be the best at doing that perfectly. And then once you do that, now you implement that to what the other team does to try to combat what you do.

So you start studying the opponent a lot more. So I'm sure he's added some things to his route running in terms of what they do offensively against certain, you know, whether it's his own man to man or whatever pressures they're running. And so now he's, he has a better feel of the holes in defenses.

And man, the guy like that, who's getting better at recognizing what you're trying to do. He said, he said, he said, he's going to go for 2000. And so, you know, he's had a heck of a start, you know, with 200 plus yards, man.

So hey, if he said he's going for 2000, I'm going to agree with you. So Charles, who would be the baddest man on defense in the National Football League currently that could possibly stop him? Well, Aaron Donald, because you need somebody to get the quarterback to keep Tyreek from getting the ball.

Yeah. So I think defensively, I don't think there's anybody one-on-one that's going to stop Tyreek Hill from a defensive back perspective that can stop. If you're going to line up just one-on-one, I don't think it happens. So I think that in terms of your defense and who you have up front, you have to have guys that can get to the quarterback, that quarterback from getting the ball to Tyreek Hill. And as you've seen last week.

Sorry, I was just, I'm smiling ear to ear, listening to you because you know what I hear in my ear, something you heard a lot. The quarterback must go down and he must go down hard. He must go down hard.

You better believe it. That was Al's mantra, man. So you got to find guys like Aaron Donald that can take the quarterback down hard.

Part of the fun of having a podcast is asking your friends to come on. So I asked my work husband, Marshall Falk, if he could spend some time with us and the memories he shared of his rookie year were just tremendous. You know firsthand how hard it is to be the best rookie in the league your first year. What is that like? Walk us through. Well, let's say this.

It's not just, so that's one part. The other part is walking into a locker room where you're like the savior. And I was the second overall pick. He's the second overall pick. You walk in and these guys are looking at you like, who the hell do you think he is?

And then you're looking at them like, well, who the hell do you guys think you are? I got drafted second. There's a reason why I'm here. Right. But the other thing people often forget, I know none of you, we don't forget it, but when you are drafted first or second, unless your team has traded up for that pick, there's a reason they're drafting that high. And that's why I'm going to underscore what you said about D'Amico Ryan's. That's a team that earned that second pick. And frankly, if Lovey hadn't won the last game, they would have had the first pick.

That was for a reason. So that D'Amico is doing what he's doing and CJ is doing what he's doing on that team, I find remarkable. And in CJ's instance, it's hard work.

He pays attention to detail. Yeah. That's why I'm saying it. It's like when you walk into that locker room, your second overall pick, you walking in kind of with your chest out like, hey, you know, I'm somebody and the veterans are always trying to suppress you. And like, you know, who do you think you are? It's like, well, I gotta be somebody.

You guys earned the right to pick me. Like you were very bad. So what was it like? Because, you know, part of the reason why I love having Amy is she can pull the curtain back and no, but Marshall, what was it like performing at that level as a rookie and being so new and the pressures and the speed and the size and the lifestyle. And, you know, obviously I know, well, your transition to college, you are alone for the first time, but now you're off in the big leagues. What was that like?

Walk us through that. It's a scary world. It's different.

It's unique. And when I look at CJ, just, you know, reading about him, understanding the complexities of his upbringing, where his father is now, not having that positive role model in his life. Mom doing a heck of a job at raising him to be the young man that he is. For him to then walk into this locker room or you walk into this experience, you have to be a very confident person, a very confident person in your abilities to play this game. And here's what happens. After the first game, all the little things that you do right, you file away. And the things that you do wrong, you work on them.

And then the next week, the things that you did wrong, as you start to progress and get better, you start to feel more like you more than just belong. You stop having those, I'm in the NFL moment to, I am the NFL. And that's where he is, like watching him play, having fun, dancing with the rest of the guys, not being, you know, too uptight. He's really enjoying and embracing the learning process of him becoming an NFL player.

And you get to take it in. Listen, they're doing a really good job at cultivating an environment around him that allows him to grow. Because when you throw, they just came back, you throw an interception and now you let Joe Burrow back in the game. It's like that doesn't happen. He has a calm about him.

And the kid just, like the facial expression was like, I got this. And I'm sorry, I'm just going to jump in once more and say it really struck me when I was reading the comments from his teammates, that at 11 o'clock at night, at midnight, he is sending them texts with video of the defense they're going to be facing. And my point is, his success is not happenstance. He's putting in hard work. He's paying attention to detail. Yeah, he understands the process. And more than anything, he understands the lack of success of guys that came before him that was in this position. And sometimes it's not about what you do, it's about what you don't do. And he understands the things to not do. Like, this is how I'm going to be successful. He might not know everything to do right, but when you start, you know the things to do that are wrong and you can stay away from them. Your ability to be the player you want to be in this league, it's there for you.

You know, you just got to have the components around you. And they've, D'Amico and the Texans, they've seen the, surrounded him with the right caliber of guys. I can't decide whether I want to ask you what was the most indelible moment from your rookie year, or what was the craziest thing that happened to you, or when did you know that you were you?

Ask them all of them, all of them. So I knew I was me after the first game. You know, I'm a very confident person even going into there, but there's always the question of, can I really play this game at this level? Because you're, I idolized football players. That was like, that was my thing. And so now I'm playing against the guys that I idolized.

I'm like, wow. My first game was against the Houston Oilers. I literally, I watched the Houston Oilers and Buffalo Bills with the comeback. I'm like, so their first regular season game in 94 was my first game. Their first game after that was my first game.

So we're playing the Houston Oilers. And I'm like, wow. So I have a great game.

I rushed for about 127 yards, three touchdowns. And I'm like, I can play this game. I can play, I can play with these guys. Probably the craziest, craziest thing, got to be at the game two hours before. In college, everybody rides to the game together. When you're at home, everybody rides to the game together in college.

And the pros, you make it to the game yourself. Show up two hours before. Indianapolis is a wacky city to where it doesn't change time. It goes from Central to Eastern, Eastern to Central. It doesn't, they don't move their clock back and forth. And so we got a game.

I'm sitting in my room. I don't know much about the time. And I walk into the stadium and they're walking out for warmups. I'm like, why are they going out this quick? I showed up an hour before kickoff.

I thought you were going to say you got there and you saw them kicking off. And by the way, that's not only on you, that's on the team. Because when I was with the team, you sent, I mean, you contacted every single player, wherever you were, if there was a time change. And if a player wasn't there on time, go find the player.

So yeah, that's kind of crazy, but that's on the team too. So what happened? I mean, I walked in, I literally, I didn't know. Ted Marsha Broda looks at me.

He's like, he's upset. I hurry up. I change clothes. I go out for the part of warmup that I caught. You probably performed like, I bet you were great that game.

Great game. I rushed for like, I rushed for like 150 yards. I caught another 60 yards of passes. I scored three touchdowns.

We lost to the Browns. And coach said it was, it was, it was my fault. Because I was late. I was like, damn, well, everybody. Didn't you just say you had three touchdowns? Dude, it's my fault. I had three touchdowns. Did you say that back to him? Or did you just sit there? No, I understood what he was saying.

He was just saying that because of things like me showing up and just that those are reasons why you, you end up losing games. You know, in today's world, it seems the best treatment is reserved only for a few. Well, Discover wants to change that by making everyone feel special. That's why with your Discover card, you have access to 24-7 live customer service, as well as $0 fraud liability, which means you're never held responsible for unauthorized purchases. Finally, no matter who you are or where you are in life, you'll feel special with Discover.

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So who better to ask than Steve Mariucci? Boy, those stories were tremendous. I think I giggled a lot that podcast. Let's talk about more fun things. Let's talk about John Madden because we feel like we're going to talk about a couple of things much. We're going to talk about John Madden. We're going to talk about Thanksgiving food. Those are two of your favorite things, I think.

So what is your favorite John Madden story? Oh God, how much time do we have? We have like all day. It's a podcast.

As much as you want. So I was sitting here waiting on this Zoom. I'm waiting for eight minutes listening to you guys. So I knew we were going to talk about John Madden. So I went over and grabbed a photo.

I got a bunch of stuff from him. We did a bocce ball tournament. It's been going on for 25 years. Suzy Rich has been there. We've had our crew up there, Cliff Clavin. Amy's been there many times. In fact, I hate to admit this, but Amy, one time it was raining out. So half the courts are indoors, half the courts are outdoors.

We put the raiders outdoors in the rain. True fact. And she filed a protest.

True fact. Because she had two inches. So what?

There's two inches of water on your court. What's the big deal? And she filed a protest whining.

Hey, hey, hey. That law degree comes in handy, Mooch. I did file a protest.

I used that. Thank you very much, Mom and Dad, for the law degree. Well, nobody else filed a protest that we're playing outside. But you got to play better than your field conditions, Mooch. I mean, this is your day. You have to step up. We're longer cleats or something.

I don't know, but you got to deal with it. But we've had a million raiders, right? The Hall of Famers, a lot of the rookies, whatever.

We've had Niners and whatnot. But one, I went and grabbed a photo off the wall of John and I. Look at this. I hope you can see it.

Mooch, your hair was a lot darker. Stop. And so look at this. This is, we're in a golf cart, right? We're in a golf cart.

Why I let John Madden drive, I have no idea. But we're having a good time. That is coffee in my mug. And so this is a monumental day for me because I never quit anything in my whole life, except one thing, golf. And so we're golfing over at Ruby Hills. I was there.

Fourth hole. Yeah. And he goes, Mooch, are you hungry? I go, duh. Yeah.

Boom. He took a left. We went into the clubhouse after four holes of golf. We ate and drank and kitted around all day, waited for everybody to finish and have their big dinner and all that auction stuff. And that's the very last time I ever golfed.

That was like 15 years ago. So this was a day maybe he made me quit. Maybe I was so bad because he was talking when I was hitting.

I don't know. But we've had a lot of great times together and it's not just socially, but even when he was working, he made it fun. In fact, when I was in Green Bay, I was the coach of the Niners and you do the interview with the production meeting on his bus. And so I'm on the bus and he goes, Mooch, where'd you live when you were coaching Green Bay?

I go, come on, let's go. So we drove the bus over to my house about a mile and a half away from the stadium, down a cul-de-sac, kids coming out of the doors and banging on the bus. And he was just driving his bus around the neighborhood, checking out where everybody lived.

I'm here, Shermoo's there, Holmgren's there, Barb's over there. And I don't even think we talked about the game. It was all about reminiscing about things. And he was so good to those kids and he was just having a blast. He made it fun.

It was incredible. Hey Mooch, those Mariuchi Madden bocce tournaments you did were magnificent. I never missed one during my years with the team. And I will always, always, always remember the time the team, the Raider team on which I was participating.

And by participating, I mean coaching. We beat Madden's team and I strode around that bocce cart. I have a picture of it.

I will dig it out with my arms straight above my head. I was marching around. I was preening and prancing. And you know, you're not being a good sport or you're over the top. When Willie Brown, old man, Willie Brown puts his hand on my shoulders and said, calm down, you know, take it down a notch, take it.

When Willie Brown is telling you to take it down a notch, you're over the top. And by the way, that Ruby Hill thing, I was driving my own golf cart. If you weren't happy with Madden driving, I'd have driven you around. Just think maybe I would have continued to golf if I was driving around with you. There you go.

But I'm kind of glad I quit because it's just, I just, I wasn't any good. So yeah, you were at a lot of those bocce events. Oh my God, we've raised $8 million. I mean, it's, it's magnificent. We're going to obviously keep it going. We've had our 25 year anniversary this past year. Then we went old school Raiders and asked how he longed to join us. And boy, those stories, he talked about getting into a fight on the practice field and Al coming out and cursing him out. Those were fun. Do you have a favorite Al story?

And if so, will you share it with us please? Oh God, there were so many. That's my answer. You know, he, he was really kind of funny. I called him Mr. Davis. Uh, and I, maybe that was just the way I was raised. I, you know, we, we had, we had maybe two lengthy conversations. I think I had, I had a bad fight in practice and beat somebody up and, you know, I didn't start it. Uh, never started a fight. I walked five blocks around a fight, but this was unavoidable. And, uh, you know, it was bad. They had to bring in plastic surgeons and the whole thing. And, uh, you know, I was brought up and he just tore my ass up and, you know, said that was our second round pick and you just ruined our second round pick and, you know, blah, blah, blah, you know, this, that, and the other thing.

And, you know, he'd walk out and practice. I don't know. It was funny because the defensive line was way down the end of the field, uh, in the, uh, in, in, in the, uh, El Segundo facility and also in Oakland, way down the field, Al wore a cologne that the minute he walked out the door, you knew he was there like a minute and a half before he hit the field because you could smell the cologne. It was, I don't know what it was. It was some kind of special cologne. I've never smelled it ever since.

It's kind of like grass Pavlov's dog. If I smelled it now, I I'd start stretching and get ready to play. Um, he would walk out on the field and, you know, I've been sitting on my helmet and I'm watching, maybe it's offensive day and you know, I'm sitting behind the thing and, you know, he woke up off along. You think you're tough, don't you?

And I'm thinking to myself, does he think he can kick my ass or something? He was in a really, it was, you cannot imagine the opportunity to play for someone that iconic. Uh, he was an iconic, uh, owner, leader, commissioner, coach. Um, you know, he was, I've said this, he was benevolent. He was tyrannical. He was someone who on the drop of a dime would, you know, get a player out of trouble, you know, after he left the organization and help out and do all that and do it without, without making it public. And he could also, boy, I'll tell you what, we're, I'm Irish and we carry a grudge, but boy, he carried grudges. Uh, he was an interesting guy and he really epitomized what the organization was all about.

And I will simply add to what Howie said that I owe my career to the fact that decades before it was even a topic of discussion, he hired without regard to race, gender, ethnicity, or any other individuality, which has no bearing whatsoever on whether one can do a job. And that's can you play exactly? Can you play? No, he listened today's trade day. Uh, you know, later on, much than many years later, I heard the story from, you know, it was publicized that, you know, I was going to be involved in 83 prior to the 83 season with a three team trade that would send Elway to the Raiders and the cargo I'd go to Chicago and there was a culture involved or something.

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And so do I, I also think of him with kittens crawling all over him. I walk up to Warren. I don't know Warren well.

He's joined us recently. And I said, you know, Warren, would you pose with some dogs and cats? Doesn't hesitate.

Says absolutely. After practice, Warren goes right over to where they're shooting them. Warren had taken off his shoulder pads and his helmets, but he's there straight from practice in a jersey. And they put little kittens all over Warren. They put kittens on his shoulders. They put kittens on his head. They put kittens on his lap. And we all know kittens have those really, really, really sharp little claws. And those kittens were going up under Warren's jersey, down his shoulders, up his sleeve, hanging onto his neck with their claws. Warren didn't flinch.

He didn't budge. And he sat there for an hour with those kittens crawling all over him. And he saved dog and cat lives. And I will always love you for that, Warren.

Thank you very much. I had a good time with those little cats. That wasn't bad.

That ain't no worse than any double teams I've been in for the last 13 years. So trust me, those cats was a nice change up for me. And it was going to be a beautiful picture in a calendar. There's no way I wasn't doing that. I mean, that's too easy. Well, I love you for that.

And I also love the idea of a kitten double team. I love you back. Love you back. Warren, what's the biggest misconception about you, you think? That I'm not a nice guy and I don't take pictures. Or I don't sign autographs.

I'm a home training kind of guy. And I want anybody listening to this. When you see the big fella, it's very easy. The only thing I said, Mr. Sapp, may I please? And now we're good. Now we're good. But this can I, you know, are you willing to, I didn't know my willingness was in question.

I thought it was your ability to ask the question and the way you were taught to ask the question in a nice, courteous way. That's all. I think it's interesting that you say that. But, you know, you said something.

No, no. I say thank you, please, all the time, all the time, all the time. I say it so it diffuses. That is a six to 300 pound man in front of you saying, you know, may I have this please? You know, it kind of, you look at me and you know, it's a strange word, please and may I, and thank you and excuse me. You don't hear it very often. So when you do hear it, you perk up to it. But when I hear please, I'm like, not a problem.

Thank you very much. I do think it is crazy how many people will walk up to an athlete and just shove a piece of paper in their face. It's not. No, no, no, no, no. How about, how about the slapping? How about the slapping on the shoulder? How about that? Hey, how you doing? Like, really? Like that's assault in 49 states. I have to say, Warren, you know, it's funny.

When I was a kid and I was working in ESPN, it was right when you first started with Tampa Bay. And I would cut a lot of VO of you. And, you know, look, you, I thought you were probably scary. I mean, you scared a lot of quarterbacks, right? So I didn't know who you are and I could have had a misconception.

And, you know, I've known you for 15 years or so. Think about this though. Think about this.

I've been retired longer than I played and it's not third in the lot and you're not an NFL quarterback. So you are not in danger. I used to cut those videos and I used to think what it must be like to be on the other side of Warren Sapp coming down.

That had to have been terrifying. You know what? I think there's a couple guys you can ask, but I wouldn't know what it's like. I wouldn't want to do it. Cause I tell all the gentlemen that I'm coaching. Just imagine if I asked you to turn around and block yourself coming forward, like you coming forward. You'd tell me to go F myself, wouldn't you? And they look at me with that little smirk on their face.

So I'm asking a worse, they're asking a worse athlete to do it. So I need you to have that same look on your face. When you go around, do you understand what I'm asking? So you bring this back to coaching and I'm curious what it's like for you now, because I remember when you were on Rich's show last time, you mentioned that people weren't in your pockets yet.

People weren't really digging into your pockets wanting to get that information from you. So what's it like now having players who are thirsty to learn from you because it kind of plays into that whole idea of maybe you'll go, maybe you'll go coach with Dion, but what's it like to have this wealth of information and have these kids so hungry to learn? The scary part is coming up with something new. So I got to dig. I got to, I got to go study.

I got to go do what I'm doing. And I got to lead them a certain way when I'm giving them messages and different things to go look at. That's the challenge for me now to go back in this old brain of mine and dig it out. And then I'm digging into Marinelli and some of the guys I used to play with to recall it because it ain't that fresh to me anymore. And then when me and Marinelli talk and we get to going and sending messages back and forth, I get something new and then I have something new to send to them. So what I'm doing is resourcing what taught me and I'm teaching them what I learned because the game ain't changed.

It's 104 years old and I promise you it ain't gonna change much from where it's at right now. Warren, I am team please and team thank you and team you're welcome. And hearing you say that and that you pass that on to others is magnificent. I actually wrote an op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle called The Lost Art of Saying Thank You. So I love you for so much. I love you for sitting under the kittens. I love you for please and thank you. And I will add, I never ever ever saw in the years Warren and I were together with the Raiders, Warren say no to anyone who graciously approached him and asked him for an autograph. He said yes every time. And I'll share one last thing with you, Warren.

You know who else adored you? Who? Al Davis because the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard.

In the first five plays of the game, in the first five plays of the game, the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard. The words of the great Al Davis. I do love that man.

I mean, I do everything about it. Rich and I have been friends with Dan Patrick for decades now dating back to the days we were both in Bristol and there was no greater gift bestowed upon you back then than a nickname from Chris Berman. Did Berman ever give you a nickname? He called me the Charlotte Observer because I came in from CNN and they had me observe for three months on how to do SportsCenter. And I would just come in and I would observe and Chris would come in and he'd go, it's the Charlotte Observer. And I went, yep, I'm here. And finally, after two months, I went to my boss and I said, I know how to do this. I did this at CNN.

I can do this. And my first show was with Chris. Chris just did the 11 o'clock. And he said, observer, I'm going to observe with you. And he stayed and did the late night SportsCenter.

My first SportsCenter was with Chris. I I've never forgotten that, you know, it was a generous gesture to do it, but I couldn't get over how loud he sounded when you're sitting next to him. And then he said to me, it's like being with the Beatles. And I went, oh, wow. And then he goes, or Elvis. And I went, damn, okay, I'm just the Charlotte Observer. You're Elvis for you.

But you do remember what you did to Rich before his first SportsCenter, right? I said, don't get up. Oh, my gosh, that's what Al said to me all the time. No, he said, you nervous? Oh, yeah, I did.

I walked by and he was looking at highlights. And I just said it in that deep voice where, are you nervous? And he's like, no, no, why? Why?

Should I? Dan, that is exactly what Al Davis said to me umpteen times throughout my career. He'd give me some project to do.

And then he'd look at me and say, try not to get up. All right, this is the part of the show where we're having fun and you're like, get me off the show. We are going to let him go. I'm feeling like all of a sudden I'm thinking like, he wants to go home. Wait, what happens after this?

Like when I leave, what happens to the show? We put on pajamas and then we have like, we do each other's hair. We have a little slumber party. I did watch the Barbie movie last night, just letting you know, with my daughter. Last night? Yeah. With Molly? Yeah, Molly and Sue.

What'd you think? You know what's amazing is that they don't teach you in acting class for Margot Robbie to play something like a doll because like, how do you play a doll? But you're actually not just, you know, a doll mannequin. You have to have these characteristics.

I thought it was great. Now, I know she struggled with trying to find like, who is Barbie? Like, what am I? I was fascinated with her ability to be able to kind of find that. And she's finding it right in front of you, whether that was on purpose or not, where she is, you know, finding the world and then getting confidence and trying to figure out like, what is this all about here? And I know I'm getting way too deep on Barbie, which is most, what most people thought I was going to today. And I swore I would not.

You're so predictable, Dan. I know, but I, when she did I, Tanya, I was like, whoa, somebody can act. And then this one, this was just different, man.

It was different. I thought that it was, it wasn't my kind of movie. Cause I like to cry at the end of a movie.

Oh, not me. Oh, I, I, when's the last time you cried? Why would I want to watch a movie that is going to make me cry?

You know what? I didn't see Titanic. I know the boat sinks.

I know they die. I am. I want to see happy movies or scary movies or thrilling movies. I do not want to cry. When's the last time you cried Amy? When, Oh, I cry. I just don't like to cry at the movies. When's the last time you cried at a movie? At a movie.

Yeah. Well, okay. First of all, if you were, and don't you dare do this. If you were to start singing the theme right now from born free, I would just sing it. Don't no, no, no. Do it in your falsetto.

As free as the wind blows. Amy, it's just been so fun being with you every Tuesday. I so appreciate having a partner who puts so much effort into being prepared week after week, the way you do. Well, Susie, you know me well enough to know that I only say what I mean.

And I always mean what I say. It is an honor and a pleasure and a whole lot of fun to work with you. You are what the best teammates are.

You best position others to be their best. Amy, that means the world to me. Thank you so very much. And thank you to all of you out there listening, watching, taking in what the football, it means the world to us. Enjoy this holiday season. We will see you back here next week for what the football. You love Lala Kent on Vanderpump Rules.

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