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I'm back. Yeah. By the way, that's what he was doing yesterday. I got what we do. You're doing basketball in the official Seton Hall mixer for Fox Sports. The official Seton Hall mixer. Yes. So if everybody's out there listening to listening to what they're watching and Seton Hall basketball like, wow, that sounds pretty sweet. It's because Mike is he's fading with love.

That's what he's doing. Good to see you over there. T.J. Jefferson, the candles lit candles. Just a random wrestling thing.

If I could do rich. Twenty two years ago today, Stone Cold Steve Austin and Booker T. Had the greatest fight ever inside of a grocery store, Brockman. I know you remember.

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Well, speaking of, you know, something you could set your watch to. I can't believe we're talking about this again. Well, I guess we can't. Draymond Green got ejected from a basketball game again. What? Last night for because he couldn't control his hands.

Got handsy again. Last time we saw it, he was choking out Rudy Gobert. He got ejected and then suspended.

This is the third time this season he has been ejected from a basketball game. And, you know, the final score, you'd think that maybe he might have made up the difference. I don't know.

Who knows? I mean, Devin Booker was just shooting lights out towards the end of the game last night. Sure was. And the Phoenix Suns defeat the Golden State Warriors without Kevin Durant. And then the Warriors didn't have Draymond Green from the eight minute mark of the third quarter on because he's posting up use of Nurkic. And everything seemed to be just, you know, one of those jockeying for position, although somewhat outside of the paint. It was damn near the three point line where he and Nurkic were having what seemed to be a normal interaction, where a power forward of Draymond's, you know, I guess, stature and is being guarded by use of Nurkic.

And and then Draymond just takes his left arm and just wings it around and hits Nurkic right in the face. And it's one of those moments where once again, you're wondering, what is this guy's malfunction? And and it's just, again, another moment where we're wondering, what's he thinking? Why is he doing this?

Why does he feel the need to do it? Guy's going to go to the Hall of Fame. Guy's got rings. Guy's got wealth, fame.

And yet part of his game is just can't control his hands, can't control his feet. It's like a mad lib again. I said that before. And I guess here it is again.

It's like a mad lib. It's like Draymond Green hits proper name NBA player in the body part, you know, fulfilling the body part name in the blank arena. And gets ejected flagrant blank.

I guess you could fill in one or two, right? I mean, it's just it's it's the same thing over and over and over again. And then Q Steve Kerr saying he knows better. We got to have him out there. And and I guess the only thing that's different is Draymond apologized for this one. For Rudy Gobert, he's just like, you know, I have no regrets.

OK, I mean, we could dust for Prince on his neck and find Draymond Green's fingerprints. We didn't have to wait for his podcast. You know, it's yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's part of the mad lib, too. He goes on his podcast and. You know, starts talking X's and O's and how he's playing three dimensional chess, a four dimensional chess and whatever. This is him after the game, after getting ejected last night, he was pulling my hip and I was swinging away to sell the car, made contact with him. As you know, I'm not one to apologize for things I meant to do, but I do apologize to Yusef because I didn't intend to hit him. I sell calls with my arms. I don't fall to sell a call.

I don't not a flopper. So I was just selling the call because he was grabbing me and pulling my hip back. So I spun away and unfortunately I hit him. And so, like I said, I apologize to Yusef because I didn't intend to hit him.

OK, so it makes no sense. It makes zero sense because I mean, Yusef Nurkic, he's all over you. You know where he is. I mean, you have to get an idea of his whereabouts since you're leaning on him and he's actually pulling your hip. And if you're going to take your arm and fling it at the level of altitude that you are flinging it, you have to know he's taller than you. You're going to connect with him.

Right. I mean, like, what do you think? He was just going to disappear magically that once you made contact with him, it would just he would disintegrate. I mean, we thought he was going to weave and bob.

Yeah, he's going to be. Honestly, I honestly don't know. That makes no sense. Nor does the fact like, oh, if I meant to hit him, then I wouldn't apologize.

That's what I heard, too. So if I had meant to hit him. And so proof of the fact I didn't mean to hit him is is is that I'm apologizing. And it's like, what?

Like, honestly, if my. When he was or she was five year old, said this to Susie and I, we'd be like, hold on a minute, sit down. We need to explain to you the way the world works here. Like if you intend to do something and it's wrong, you apologize for it.

And if you didn't intend to do something and it's wrong, you apologize for that, too, because you're, you know, a compassionate human being. It makes no sense. He's standing right there. He's leaning on you. You know where he is. You know, he's tall and big. So when you fling your arm, you're going to hit him. And it's more than likely you're going to hit him in the face enough. And then when you do it, you're like proof that I didn't mean to do it is that I'm apologizing. If I did it, you know, like, say, choke somebody out.

I will tell you, I have no regrets. Oh, OK. What is that? And so that leads to somebody like Nurkic saying this after the game. I was behind the play. I think. What's going on with him?

I don't know. Personally, I feel like that brother need to help. I'm glad he not try to choke me. But at the same time and not do a basketball man.

I'm just out there trying to play basketball and they're swinging. Think we saw that often, but hopefully, you know, whatever you guys like to get better. So, man, I mean, whatever he's got in his life, get better. And I, you know, I don't know this guy. I don't just cover him or we've covered, you know, we talk about him and the NBA every single day.

And, you know, we're in our 10th year here. So in the last 10 years, I'm talking about German Green of winning championships and then being suspended in the NBA finals game because he, you know, hits LeBron in his King James. And then, you know, and then we see what happened just last playoffs with Sabonis. And then we saw what happened this regular season with Gobert and now this with Nurkic. And then you go on your X feed, Twitter feed or whatever, and you see this now montage of all of the moments where he can't control his feet or his hands. And then he shows up on Turner. Turner has him on all the time because he's incredibly talented. And he's going to be he's going to be an announcer once he's done.

I think I think he'll be an analyst if that's what he wants to do. I don't know him. So here I am saying, you know, what is the matter? What it just it's a it's a it's a body of work that makes you think, hey, you've got it seems all. So why are you always in this position? And does he not have the self-awareness to sit here and take such stock or doesn't care?

So Nurkic's response was brought up to Draymond last night as well. Respect. I still know what my intentions were. But respect.

I think we all need help. I don't think any of us are too perfect. So respect. But I'll tell him the same thing I just told you. I apologize to him.

You know, I didn't intend to hit him. So but he has a right to feel how he want to feel about it. And I'm not going to sit here and try to go back and forth on how he feels about it. So I kind of want to root for Draymond.

I really do. Like he does seem to be. He does seem to be, you know, a human in the world that that that you want to root for.

I don't know why I have that feeling. Honestly, because it he doesn't do very much to earn anybody else's reasonable doubt that he didn't intend to do it. I mean, you know, and and he's going he's going to the Hall of Fame. That's going to happen. Anybody who just wants to discard Draymond, guess what? He's going to the Hall of Fame. He's won all these rings. The question is, is why does he find himself in this position? And does he not think about where he's leaving Steph and Kerr and Clay and everybody else? They need him now more than ever, right?

This this team is, I don't think, on anybody's radar to win the championship this year. That's why they resigned him. That's why they, you know, have generationally enriched him. Kind of funny, these two all time greats, Patrick Mahomes and Steph Curry, are just kind of being let down by their teammates in a way. You know, chiefs on the field, the wide receivers and Draymond on the court, just with his antics or with his lack of availability. That's that's the phrase you hear all the time.

Your best ability is your availability, you know. And and he's not going to be available again for this team. I mean, can we not gloss over the fact that did anyone know that's how Nurkic sound when he taught from Bosnia? It sounds like he's from down the street, down the block, and they go with it. I never heard him speak.

I had no idea. I was just tuning in to see how the the Warriors would would try and win this game. And also to see just how badly Devin Booker was going to be hurting my fantasy team. I was wondering if you want to bring that up today. I mean, he's on yours, but we're we're locked in a battle, sir. We are. It's going to go down to the wire.

I started off like the Spurs and the Pistons, and I'm on a win streak right now. I got to apologize to you for something. Oh, my gosh.

Full Draymond. Wow. So does that mean you didn't mean what you're about to say? Is that what it is? No, I do.

Like last year, I'm trying to find again, the Draymond logic just screws up the whole meaning of an apology. That's true. Good point. Couple years ago, me and Brockman used to clown on you because you would make eight times as many transactions as everybody. But then I came to realize there is a method to the madness.

And if you want to win and if you want to be, you know, if you want to stay in the game, you've got to consistently got to consistently. Well, certainly. So I apologize, because now I have the most moves in the league records. And I was doing it in the era of load management.

OK, I remember that era. I thought about that last night as Kawhi on your team was letting it up for the second straight game. And he's playing an actual back to backs. And I'm like, that would have been nice.

When I had Kawhi last two years, he actually played on either end of a back to back. That actually happened. Whoa. That's funny.

So I was doing it in the era of load management, sir. I'm just saying I knew he came home to his boy. What to do, baby? You know what? This is a great my squad. He had to get busy. Adam has a great day. This is a great day because not only do we have a great guest list. Nick Sirianni is about to join us.

Appreciate him saying yes. Nick Sirianni of the Philadelphia Eagles head coach here. He's the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. I'll be joining us shortly. And then two of our favorites to talk to from the world of reporting and analyzing Bruce Feldman in studio.

And then we've got Albert Breer joining us in our number three from the NFL owners meeting, where apparently they're about to award an international series game to Sao Paulo, Brazil. And how about that? So I might have to I don't know.

Everybody might have to brush up on their Portuguese. I have no idea. That may not be our game.

It may be ESPN. Oh, no, please. I don't know.

God, if you're listening. But I think if I'm not mistaken, I just heard T.J. Jefferson refer to me as a fantasy basketball visionary. I mean, I use those words. Visionary. Many visionaries are viewed at the time of their greatness as crazy. Yeah.

And let's see how Earth responds to them very much. Very good. Thank you very much, Elon. I mean, look, you were you were onto something, man.

I'll just give it to you. You were OK. Thank you. At the time you're accusing me of being on something.

I appreciate the extra preposition. I'm on to something. And maybe we should be onto something.

We should we should create the Draymond Madlib as part of Rich Eisen. Consulting, consulting. It's silent because we as we we nailed the latest ankle watch. We told you Trevor Lawrence was going to start just by looking at it. We know.

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Call click Grainger dot com or just stop by. Nick Sirianni, Philadelphia Eagles head coach, about to join us right here. And on the Roku Channel side, we were just talking about how Sirianni took the gig. Right. He came from the Colts staff.

Yeah. And he's brought in and Hertz had just. So Hertz is drafted in 2020, right? Then he got in there and he got in there for.

Wentz, who Doug Peterson was hanging with forever, right? And then they put Hertz in and he had some really nice games. And then that was the that's it. It was the mystery ending to the season to the season when they put Sudfeld in there. Right.

Let's see what he has. Well, they sat Hertz. They said Hertz in the end in the game that they kind of needed. Who needed? Somebody needed. Was it the giant Rivera needed? Right. Washington needed a team that. And and then I remember then the conversation coming into the season is Hertz the guy? Are they really going to be? Is he really going to be the guy in Philadelphia? And that's when Sirianni showed up wearing the T-shirt.

With Hertz on it at the pressure. In 2021, look, and again, the date September 17th. So that is that's got to be right after week one into week two, right? And that was a sign of like, yeah, he's this guy here and I'm a coach here and he's the guy. That was like one of the first moments where Sirianni is stepping in as like, yeah. And he's making a statement in a way that. That, you know. 21st century coaches make with, you know, I'm wearing I'll wear the T-shirt with Hertz on it.

He's our guy. Yeah, Eagles ended that year one and seven. That year, what, with Peterson?

2020. Right. Yeah. And then they made the if I'm not mistaken, they made the playoffs with Hertz. And they lost in the first round of Brady and the Bucks, correct?

Let's see if I'm not mistaken. Great, great memory, Rich Eisen. Yeah, nine and eight made the playoffs. They got one and done by Brady and the Bucks lost to Brady, who then eventually lost to the Rams.

Right. The next week in that wild division game, wild, crazy game. That was the Cup went up top from from Stafford to win the game.

Yes, similar to like a three situation. They came all the way back to tie it in the Rams won it. And then the Eagles come back with Hertz and go to the Super Bowl. And now here they are.

Would you would you say that this is the most like adverse stretch a 10 win team can have right now? Well, people have been on them all year. I know that.

It's just so weird. But you're winning the game. I told you they went from plucky to lucky in just two weeks. Right. That plucky team that that's only got, you know, pro bowlers all over the place and Hall of Famer. Well, Hall of Famers, you could make a case.

You've got a couple on there. Maybe Brandon. Well, Kelsey up front.

I mean, he's he's an HOF. Maybe Cox, maybe her, you know, and now here they go going into Seattle, which is eight one score game. Very. And they're seven. They're seven and one and one score game. You know what?

But you are what you are. Right. Also, the Vikings last year, weird, weird bounce. They won a division with all that stuff.

And how they do in the playoffs. All right. Let's go to the phone lines while coaches are getting set to sit down. Pete in Hilton Head, South Carolina. You're here on The Rich Dad Show. What's up, Pete? Hey, how are you doing today? What's on your mind, sir?

I got I want to tell you something. This is my deal. I know final game of college. I have Texas scoring 24 points. I have Alabama scoring 31 or 34. OK, Alabama win the national championship by 10 points.

All right. I don't know what's going to happen score wise with Alabama and Michigan. OK, but I I'll bet you Texas beats Washington by two touchdowns. Oh, OK, Pete, stay right there. And you can't see you. You're not watching us right now, right? Yeah, you OK here.

I've got a magic eight. I thought you were going to flip. You know, this is the this is the highest price you can give anybody.

Is Pete in South Carolina right about what he's saying, says without a doubt. Damn it. No, I have tickets to the Rose Bowl. Well, you might as well sell those.

Really? So write it, write it down in that little book in front of you. All right. Then you write it down in my little book. Oh, and can I say one other thing? Sure. Pete, go for it. I hope I hope.

What do you call it? It's all right today. I thought yesterday we're doing the overreaction that Chris was going to have a frickin heart attack. About which one? I thought his head was going to explode.

That's every that's every overreaction Monday. I was on it, though. They were good topics, right, Pete?

No, they weren't. Yeah, you were pretty, pretty on. But boy, I was worried about you for a second.

I was like, have you caught my cardiology? I get fired up, man. Pete, thanks for your concern. Be well, brother. Appreciate it.

OK, thank you. Hit him straight. Damn it, I hit it again. Like just thinking to myself, let me just let me just tap the side and get a different result. And it said it is certain you're not supposed to shake the Magic 8 ball completely. All right.

So it's just like do one of these. So we have we have the desert is weighed in here, guys. I just changed it. Texas is a four point favorite on Washington. So Pete said two touchdowns. OK, and then they have the what ifs for the different championship games. So he thinks Texas is going to play Alabama, right? Alabama would be a two and a half point favorite if that was the matchup. OK. Well, you know, I think Pete's prediction about Alabama is trash. Well, I understand. I'm just relating.

I don't usually say that about our callers or listeners or viewers, but I think it's trash. I would say that Michigan is favored if they would play Texas or Washington. OK, but against Alabama is a different story. No, they are favorite. Yeah. OK. Oh, good. Good to know. Thanks for that.

All right. Joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show is the head coach, the Philadelphia Eagles. Kind enough to join us.

He is Nick Sirianni. How you doing, coach? Good to see you. Hey, Rich. How's it going?

I'm great. We were just talking before you were sitting down about the T-shirt you wore in September of 2021, where it was hurts on your shirt, you know, and you still got you still have that T-shirt. Oh, I got I got so many T-shirts like that with with our guys on it. You got that one? Yeah. That's a good one.

Yeah, that's a good one. You know, I the reason why I do that. Let's let's talk.

The reason why I do that, I think it's a very easy way to connect with guys. My brother is a college football coach in the Pittsburgh area, and he has more T-shirts. And he's nine years older than me. And he's been the head coach there for, I want to say, like 22 years. He has more T-shirts of different Western Pennsylvania high school football teams than I ever imagined. And I asked him one time, I said, Mike, what I know your players are giving.

I know you got a guy from Thomas Jefferson. I know you got a guy from Belverton or where, why are you wearing all these? It's like it's a really easy way just to connect with the guys when you wear when you wear their T-shirt. It's just an easy way to connect. And, you know, that's what we're about.

Why? I also remember the circumstances again there. You were in your first year as the H.C. and there was question whether Jalen was the guy. And certainly the way that the season ended before with him being taken out in the last game and all that craziness.

And it was a significant moment. And I'm just wondering if, like, if he needs that sort of coaching, say, now when he's now Jalen Hurts, the guy there in Philadelphia. Does he get that sort of stuff from you? You know what's great?

I think so. You know, what's great about Jalen is he's been the same guy from day one. And we coach him hard every day, no matter what. And I know he appreciates that. And he comes to work every day the same way every day, no matter what.

Win, lose, up for MVP, not up for MVP, coming off a two game losing streak, coming off a two game winning streak. And so we just try to be consistent with who we are at all times, no matter what. And we're in a little bit of adversity right now, right?

The whole world knows that. We're going through some adversity right now with our last two our last two outings. But I know I know this about this group and Jalen is that they we've all been through adversity in our lives and we all know how to respond. And first and foremost, it's about admitting what we do and our mistakes and then getting getting up, get up and let's go and go again because nobody going to feel sorry for you.

No, for sure. And I'm sure you you might hear some narratives about your organization and your team out there, coach. And the idea is that Jalen is off because he's not 100 percent physically. And that perhaps there was even a suggestion by my colleague at NFL Network, David Carr, of sitting him until he's 100 percent.

How do you view that concept, coach? Yeah, you know, he he's he's played some good football. You know, he's played some some really good football. I would say that, you know, we're definitely not sitting them.

We're definitely not doing that. And because Jalen is one of our best football players and he gives us a great chance to win every time he steps out there. Do we all have plays that we want back from this year or or games that we want back? Yeah, me included.

And we all we all have those. And that's the ebbs and flows of the year. But we also understand, like, you know, when you're on a two game losing streak, some of these criticisms, criticisms are going to come. And, you know, it's our job to just again, like I said, get back up, learn from our mistakes and get better from them, because we know we know it's sometimes it's a week to week thing here in the NFL. Like we played good next week. We played good with the week after that. All we're worried about is playing good this next week.

But, you know, it is a week to week thing at times. And we know we've put some really good products out in the field, beat some beaten. We have beaten some really good football teams and we've got to get it going again. And it's as simple as that. And it starts with me as the head coach and then goes to the players. And of course, obviously, if you do say win out and if you're talking about playing well and you do win out and San Francisco does lose one more game, you could still be the one seed. I mean, that is still out there for you to to grasp.

The question I have for you is, is how do you clean these things up? I understand the play better and just be better. Mentality is something I've been around coaches for such a long time is is the reality of it.

But how do you affect something like that, coach? Yeah, that's good. That's good. Again, you want to repeat. Am I going to give away all the secrets of what we feel like we're going to do here? No, I do respect the question. You got to try.

Rich, you got to try it. You've been doing this a long time. You know, you got to try to get that answer from me.

But, you know, we have different thoughts. And one thing is you always want to try to do the things you're doing well. And and repeat those things and do that again. What is it? What's your identity?

What are you doing? Well, that doesn't mean you don't do different wrinkles off of that. That doesn't mean you don't do other things, but you always want to try to identify that and repeat those things. And what can your what do your guys do? Well, and that's our job. So I always put it on myself as a coach first is that we got to put them in positions to succeed first and foremost, because we definitely have the guys in this in this building to go out there and execute. There's no doubt in my mind. So obviously, you know, you're not giving away the details. But does that mean folks in Philadelphia shouldn't make up their own signs and stand outside your facility and stand out there for messages to you like to run the ball?

Should they just save the paint or the poster board? You know what? They they I love this fan base, passionate fan base. And they you know what?

They got it. They're going to say how they feel, right? They're going to say how they feel. They're going to say how they feel when we're not playing well. They're going to say how they feel on Sundays when we are playing well to that opposing team as well.

So you can't have one without the other, in my opinion. And hey, listen, criticism is is a good thing. You know, you might not like criticism as a coach, as a player, but, you know, can you identify the criticisms that are granted and that you need to fix and improve on? Right.

And can you block out the criticisms that are a little bit crazy? Right. And and that's an art. That's a skill because, you know, you got to be able to do that because that's what I'm doing as a head coach. Like I'm getting up there and I'm I don't want to say criticize, but I'm making corrections of what needs to happen, both with the coaches and with the players and with myself. And so if we're all stuck to this, I'm not taking this criticism, then you can't grow. Right. And again, it's like you laugh.

It's like there's you got to know what criticisms to block out and you got to know what criticisms that you can think on and ponder on for a little while. The reason why I'm laughing is I'm just I'm from up the turnpike originally in Staten Island, Nick. And I know you better have that gene in you if you want to coach and be successful with your coaching. I mean, you better have that.

I mean, because I've seen so many coaches of all sports, baseball, basketball, hockey, get spit up and chewed out in the northeast if they cannot do what you just said. That's why I laughed. You know, I know that mentality. But I'll take one more swipe at this with you. And I'm and Rich, I'm from the like I'm not going up the turnpike.

I'm going west in Jamestown, New York. That's where I'm from. So I'm used to that criticism as well.

I know I live out here in Southern California and sometimes people think I'm angry just the way I talk. I'm like, no, no, that's just my that's my inflection. That's just the way I talk.

You know what? I feel the same way. I feel the same way. So I will take one more swipe at it. So you said that there are some criticisms that you think there are maybe warranted. Which which criticisms do you feel or critiques that you feel are warranted with your team? You know, again, we have to we have to play better. And there are you know, there's going to be criticisms when you're not like, do we need to run the ball better and run the ball more? Yeah, yeah, we do. We know that like now different games, circumstances require different things. But we know we know what we got to do.

We know what type of team we are. And we have to put the guys in positions to succeed in the run game more. And we got it and we got to get some more going, calls going with it. Again, that every game I will do it. But I say this, Rich, like, yes, we got to run the ball more. But if we feel like the best thing to do this next game is to pass it 50 times to win, we'll do what we think we need to do to win. And that's, you know, and that's my job as the head coach.

And so that's just one, for instance, Rich. I know there's a lot of criticisms right now after the last few games, but that's just one, for instance, to you know, that it's been more of a topic that I know that I've had to address. A couple more minutes left with the head coach, the Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Sirianni here on the Rich Eisen Show. What is the, I guess, genesis of the brotherly shove play? Like, when did you first come up with this? Who's, where did you draw some X's and O's from to come up with this formation and keep doing it?

That's a great, that's a great question, Rich. When Frank Reich and I got back, Frank Reich and I coached together in San Diego. I stayed in San Diego. He came to be the offensive coordinator at Philadelphia. They had tremendous, tremendous success with the quarterback sneak with Carson Wentz. And, you know, a lot of the same characters up front with Jason Kelsey, Lane, Lane Johnson with the, with quarterback sneak.

So we get to Indianapolis and obviously you talk about the things that you've done well at different places since you've been together. And, you know, we said that quarterback sneaks had to be part of it. Now, you know, we had a big, a bruising quarterback in Jacoby Bursett. If you replay some of his quarterback sneaks, they're some of the best quarterback sneaks you've seen.

Now, Jalen, I would argue is better than anybody at that. But, you know, and so it's, it really was ironic. It started in Philly. They continued to do really well on it.

Frank brought it to Indy and then we just, you know, we're back here in Philadelphia. And so what's happened with it is there's been different variations. Like there's been a lot of different variations of things that happen off of it, whether that's an extra pusher, whether that's the compliments of plays that you run off of it. And so that's what's been fun about it. Like, and, and shoot, I feel like rich, we're giving you guys in the media a lot to talk about with this play.

Right. Like, you know, and so, because it's a popular topic and, and so, you know, we just have taken a lot and make no mistake about it. Why are we good at it? Why can we do the compliments off of it?

Why is it getting the attention that it gets? Well, because of Jason Kelsey, Landon Dickerson, right? Cam Juergens, Jordan Mylotta, Lane Johnson, right?

Jalen Hurts, right? That's why we're good at it. And that's why we're better at it than anybody else in the NFL. And so, you know, these guys are, these guys have a will to go out and do it and, and make the plays to do it. And they're making plays. I know it's ugly and I know it's, it's, it looks messy, but there's a major art to how these guys are going out and fundamentally doing their job. Um, cause you see it around the NFL, not everybody can do it the way we do, you know, and, and you don't see people try and they, why do we try? Well, because we have the confidence in it to do it because of those guys up front and Jalen Hurts.

Well, it's a huge advantage. I mean, again, I've just to be straight up and then, you know, then I'll let you go on your day is that when I first thought I'm like, this is ugly. It's a rugby play.

It's, it's, it's tough to officiate and, uh, I, I didn't like it, but then I'll be honest. I'm I've completely come around on it because you did, you did, you did, maybe I should wear a t-shirt or I'll give you one. You know, I got about 70 of those t-shirts, right? Oh my goodness. They come from every direction.

I might be a large, extra large, depending on the, I'm going to send you one because I appreciate it. Cause I've, I've asked so many of your colleagues as to why does it work and I've heard a lot of the names. Like first of all, I got to have a quarterback who's 240 pounds and a guy who's a center is your hall of Famer. And then you do have to have other guys, but I had Kelsey on this show the other week. And he said, you're getting more live reps of it in a game than most other teams probably even attempt to practice it because they don't want to spend precious practice time doing it.

It is a huge advantage. So my last question to you would be your thoughts on the word that maybe Roger Goodell doesn't like it and wants it out and wants to legislate it out. What do you say there? Hey, we'll play, we'll play by the rules of whatever, whatever it is. Uh, I can't be in control of that. I can be in control of is, uh, what, what's going on here in our, in our thing.

I know you're, I know what you're trying to do. Rich, I'm not going there. I'm not going there. I don't mean you, I guess let's take the commissioner out of it. What, what if the competition committee gets together and says it's out? I mean, what, what would you say to that?

Cause that's, that's your colleagues in the room right there. I'll, I'll cross that bridge when we have to get to it. I will don't, don't make any mistake about it, rich. Like until then, I'll have an opportunity to speak on it probably. And I'll make my case, right. I'll make my case on it, um, you know, and it works at all.

And it works at all levels. Like I get, my brother's a chairman of, uh, of high school football back in New York and he's sending me clips of guys, you know, teams in the area running it. And then, you know, there was a, we had a little bit of a stall in our peewee football game, um, that my son was playing and he's playing quarterback. It was a little bit of a stall we're at the we're near the goal line where we got a stall. And I happened to be standing close to the sideline. I said, Hey coach, we got it in Jacob Sirianni scored on the quarterback.

So it's good for football. That's what I'll say. Put him on a t-shirt. Fantastic. I love it. I, I, listen, Maryland did it three times against my alma mater, Michigan.

They, I'm seeing it's, it's at every level right now. So, okay. I appreciate the time, coach greatly appreciate it.

Let's do this as, uh, as often as, uh, as you're up for it. I appreciate it. Thanks coach. Thanks for having me.

You got a good luck in Seattle. That is Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. If it's good for the Eagles, it's good for his son. It's first and nine for his son's peewee team too.

First and nine for all Sirianni levels of football. That's funny. That's funny if I didn't have to dislike him, I would like that. So this is the cowboy fan. All right.

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What a cool guy. You got to have some. Are you eating again? What are you eating? I was just eating some nuts in the break. But why do you have peanuts over here? Oh, I ain't saying they're healthy. I better than donut with day old donuts. But you eat that, too. I'm not eating that today. I bet you are. Brockman's being good.

All right. So two pieces of business from the NFL ownership meeting in the Metroplex in Dallas. Albert Breer will be joining us in our number three. He's there right now. The international series is being expanded in the Super Bowl has two new locations for Super Bowl 60 and 61.

Let's get to that first. So the Super Bowl this year is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Next year, New Orleans, which a lot of people consider the greatest Super Bowl city there is. I say that, OK, because 100 percent what you need for Super Bowl cities to make it great is a walkability to the stadium.

Yes. Restaurants, hotels, atmosphere, all that sort of thing, right? That's why Vegas is going to be particularly good.

I mean, it was a long walk, maybe down to Allegiant for some. As far as depending on where you're staying. But you can do it like you can do it.

And the weather should be decent enough for you to do it. Right. And then hotels and restaurants and shows.

My God, it's all over the place. That's right. So and it was great for the draft as well. So New Orleans has next year's Super Bowl, next season's Super Bowl, and then the next two were up for grabs.

And the the league just awarded Super Bowl 60 to the location where 50 50 was. Yeah. Hmm. And it's going to go to the Bay Area, going to Santa Clara area. OK, that was announced back in May. Oh, OK, good.

I did not know that. Look at me. I'm way out of it.

And now they announced the Super Bowl 61 is going here. Come back here. Oh, baby. So I was such a good guy.

I love it was awesome so far. Look at that. That's NFL Network across the street from it.

So they like to go get to sleep in your bed with you. It's a home game. It was amazing. I got to be straight up for you.

Not to go out. Michael's on you. But, you know, it was great to be home. It's a home game at home, right? Just like that. You know, Al's got I think there's a Thursday night or here in Los Angeles in a couple of weeks. That's right. Well, so just good, good news for Al right there.

I'm going right next. So Super Bowl 61 come back here to Los Angeles. Very good news. And then early prediction cowboys versus Steelers. I know. We'll see if it's a tradition, if the Rams playing it.

That's true. Yeah, let's see if there's a tradition. So let's just worry about this year. Who's playing this year's Super Bowl first?

Let's see if your Cowboys make it this year, sir. And then the other the other the other piece of news from the owner's meeting is there's the expansion of the international series. They're going to Brazil.

I heard this as a rumor and Albert Breer's tweet on the screen. He's going to join us in our number three an international series game next year in Sao Paulo, Brazil. And obviously that's the first NFL regular season game that's being played in Brazil. And it's going to be like, I don't know if I have to brush up on my Portuguese.

I have no idea if that's an NFL Network game or if I'll get that game or if ESPN is covering that game. I have no idea. And word is, Madrid may be next. I don't know if that's next year, but I'm hearing rumors that Madrid may be the next location is there.

They're expanding the number of locations and. You know, when I interviewed Robert Kraft in Germany. On NFL Network Live, I asked him, you know, like, what is the point of this really? To paraphrase myself, which I don't really think I've ever done. And because the answer is there, there, there's not going to be a team located in these places. You cannot pull it off competitive.

Wise, you cannot pull it off with time zones or anything like that, you just can't do it. And so what I think they're going to do is just create enough international series games where potentially a 17th regular season game that's been added is going to be at a neutral site for everybody. Or they'll just keep doing what they're doing, which is it's a 17th regular season game between two teams and opposite conferences, but finished in first place. And they'll play each other. Depending on what your your conference's divisions play, the other division, I believe this year, Eagles, Chiefs was one of those games.

Where the first place team in the NFC East played the first place team in the AFC West just happened to be a Super Bowl rematch. So they might continue doing that or just have. Keep adding games, adding games until there's an international series package of games to sell off potentially to another organization that wishes to get in business of broadcasting NFL games and stroking a massive check to the ownership group. I think that's that's where we're headed.

And. That would be kind of great. I mean, there were three games in London last year, two in Germany. And if you duplicate that and add the game in Brazil, it's now six. Games and when NFL Network first started, we, I believe, had eight on Thursday night, they were run up to the playoffs. There'll be a bunch of Thursday games and the Thursday Saturday games. There were six Thursday games and two Saturday games. And we would go from a Thursday game to a Saturday game.

And that was an eight game package. And then suddenly you grow out of that. And what happens Thursday night football wound up on CBS, NBC and now on Amazon Prime. I think that's the way they're cultivating this thing. And the other sense I got, you know, is that there the the NFL will not stop doing this. Keep expanding.

Yeah, to different places. I mean, it's insane when you're there, right? It's the fans. It's like, well, your pictures. Well, it is the fan bases.

There are extremely knowledgeable. Like you'll go sometimes to to a game, let's just say an NBA game. And you'll hear like kids cheering for a three point shot that goes to the and you'll hear like kids cheering for a three point shot that goes in well after a whistle that, you know, has been a foul on the floor.

Right. And so sometimes fan bases can't follow the sport. You don't get that at these NFL games and international series. They're nuts and they love they love it. And these are really passionate fans because they're watching the most important games on Sunday night and Monday nights for us in the middle of the morning there. Like it's 2 a.m. kickoffs, which is another reason why you can't have teams based there. So the fan bases love it.

I mean, again, and we'll talk about this later. You know, when we talk about the news coming out of Boston, that Tom Carr and our friend out there saying he's hearing that the Patriots have already made a decision on Belichick and and the breaking point was a loss to the Colts in Germany. Owners, when they go over there, they really want to win these games in front of fan bases that they've been.

Pouring their. Their capital into and the Patriots were the first team to have a website in German, so they've been talking to these fan bases and they want to win in front of them and they want to keep expanding their brand, I believe Miami, the Dolphins are significant in Brazil. And maybe that means they'll end up going to play a game there. Maybe the Dolphins will play a game.

The cheat is coming to Brazil. Basically, to wax the competition. Thank you so much. All right. We're offering our service.

Let's let's cut to the chase here. You know, do we need to get roku's Charlie and Joe on the phone? Can we take a roku trip? I mean, because they got to send Rich Eisen. They got to send you down there, right? Do they? I don't know. Oh, I think they.

I don't know if you're aware of this, TJ. Very few individuals and organizations tell the NFL what to do. I'm saying the NFL. And so they might have their own opinions.

I bet you multiple. Organizations that cover the National Football League would like to show that game on their air. Oh, yeah.

And so. I mean, sometimes we could not meet with some of the players in our international games over the last few years because they had obligations to speak to the international media. Well, and you as a broadcaster, talk to the players in the game of significance. You talk to the quarterback, you talk to the running back. Sometimes the defenders, coaches, whatever, and you get face to face time. That's the broadcast meetings I keep talking about a couple of times. We can't get those folks face to face.

We have to zoom with them or meet with them that way, because they have obligations that the NFL insists on them having with the international media. We're like, well, wait a minute. We're your you know, you were your broadcasters for your network. And we can't we take a back seat to. To that, and the answer is like, yeah, yep, I'm still I don't know if that answers you, but don't learn Portuguese just yet. Is what I'm saying.

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