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DJ Mikey D is in Deez Nuts. Good to see you. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson. Where are you watching the game tonight?

Oh, that's an excellent question. In the barn? No, I was in the barn for Thanksgiving. OK, I'm supposed to, you know, our buddy Ben Lyons is in town. I might go meet him for dinner.

I might stay home. I don't know. Yeah, they got to figure it out. Wow.

OK, figure it out. He's leaving his house. Plans dinner during the Cowboys game. Well, I mean, I'd only go somewhere to dinner if the game was. And I'm talking not I'm talking like a yard house type situation.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Fancy. OK, you know, somewhere where a game would be one and a half stars. Hooters, you know. Is there is there an establishment of that nature around anymore? A Hooters? I don't think so.

No, they're gone. Santa Monica needs to be a great one. An Anaheim that you'd pop into before you went to Angels games. OK, I'm the Sox is in town, but that closed. OK. Well, that would be too far to go. I think there's a few of them in Van Nuys. No. Well, what are we talking about?

You talking about where they serve wings or they serve? What are you talking about? What are you talking? And let's see how Earth responds to that. That's what we'll see. Exactly.

Great use of our new drop. All right. Top five list.

I do this every single Thursday here on the Rich Eisen Show. It is now time for my top five most intriguing games of week 13. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's top five. All right. Here we go.

Number five on the list. They have lost. It feels like two in a row, right? Doesn't it feel like they didn't? They seemed like it was in doubt, as we all recall, two games ago for them. And then they dropped one on Thanksgiving. How will the Detroit Lions look?

Because it feels like it's trending in the wrong direction. And then the New Orleans Saints come off their bye and lose in Atlanta. And now they're at five and six looking at Atlanta in first place. And Atlanta's at New York taking on Tim Boyle and the Jets. And you can open all the windows for Aaron Rodgers all you want.

I don't believe it's going to change much of the air in MetLife at present. So the Saints need this one. And boy, would they love to just show the Lions the door here, get to five hundred and then put the Lions, I think.

And I mean, it's not panic button mode. You're still eight and four. The Bears did them a favor by beating the Vikings. That would be a two game lead over Minnesota. So, you know, the Lions would still be hosting a playoff game. And the way things are working in the NFC south, the Lions probably wouldn't fall further than the three seed in the playoffs and would avoid it. Everybody's looking at you don't want to be playing the Dallas Cowboys in the first week of the season. If that's the team that's going to be losing the NFC East. And I'm sure the Cowboys have a lot to say over that over the next two weeks.

Lots of moving parts is what I'm saying. And if the Lions want to ensure that any slip ups by them means they don't go further down the pecking order than three, it would be winning this game, sending the Saints to five and seven and ending all the conversation. That's a lot of fascinating developments in the fifth game on my top five most intriguing matchups of week 13 list. Number four is the Sunday night game. Green Bay beat the Lions, Green Bay beat the Chargers. Is Green Bay on a heater right now?

Are they on a heater? And can they get to five hundred and place themselves in a playoff spot after 13 weeks in a playoff spot position? They can do that.

It's entirely possible. And can they beat the Chiefs? That would be a way for them to really put the card on the table and saying Jordan Love is all that we do have a shot at the playoffs this year. We just beat the Chiefs. And then, you know, Kansas City is feeling good after that win. Last week in Vegas, they actually scored two touchdowns after halftime.

That's going to be interesting order. The Chiefs just put the Packers in their spot. And then, of course, the most intriguing aspect of this is where are the Mahomes sitting? Because when Love got his first start of his career in Arrowhead, they put his family basically, you know, what would you say?

In in South Dakota, watching the game last row of the stadium. Where's where's Brittany? Where's Brittany in the Mahomes family? You know what I mean?

All right. Number three on this list. Can the Broncos keep winning football games? Can the Houston Texans bounce back from that loss at home to Jacksonville? Can they get to seven wins first? Or can the Broncos go from one and four to six and five?

Can this really happen? The best thing about us, though, is it's about us. The winner goes to seven and five. The loser goes to six and six. And the winner has the tiebreak advantage in their back pocket for these two teams that might be vying for a seven spot, a six spot.

You never know. Yeah. Rich, the Broncos won in five. They won in five. Pardon me. That's right. They were one in five.

Yeah. After losing five on Thursday night. My bad. Excuse me.

And they've won five in a row, including a win over the Chiefs. Let's see it. Russ V Stroud.

So much fun. Oh, number two is tonight's game. Seahawks and Cowboys.

I unpacked it earlier to lead off the show. The Cowboys have beaten only one team above 500 this year. Only one team was in front of them with an above 500 record. This year is on the schedule, and it was the at the time one and oh, New York Jets. That's it.

That's so sad. So but that still wouldn't remove the narrative of the Cowboys really beaten anybody this year because of the way the Seahawks have been playing lately. And that's not fair to the Seahawks. It's not fair to the Cowboys. It really is all about next week. And I don't think Dallas is looking past Seattle towards Philadelphia coming into their house. But this is a big game, certainly with Seattle having to go to San Francisco next and then host Philadelphia after this game coming off of the loss on Thanksgiving night at home decisively to the 49ers. This is it. Seattle needs to win it.

Dallas could use to win it if they want to have a shot at the one seed and certainly their division. It's on prime video tonight right here on Roku. Number one, we all know what it is. We've been circling it ever since it came out. You know, Debo talking about how if Birdie didn't get hurt, we'd have gone to the Super Bowl and Hassan Redick and the rest of them, you know, saying, OK. And then James Bradbury being trash right after the game. Correct. Remember that? OK, here we go. And Greg Olsen's about to join us on this program.

It's the clear number one. I don't think we really need to lay too much out of other than the fact if the Niners don't want to get another trip to Philadelphia this year in their playoff futures, they should win this game. There's still one game behind Philadelphia. They'd still need help to catch them and erase that three game losing streak. The three game losing streak might be the the issue in terms of avoiding a return trip to Philadelphia. Obviously, they could get some help and have somebody else knock off the Eagles before they see them. But that's at stake.

And if Philadelphia can win this one, it'll be like how many more times do they have to prove it to people? Greg Olsen's coming up shortly on the one more. OK, sure. All right. We'll get one. I'll do it.

I'll do it. In the same way that the Packers are on a heater, are the Rams on a heater? You know, can the Rams get to six and six and they've got the Browns coming into their house and at present, it could be Joe Flacco two weeks off the couch.

That's crazy. In this game. And I bet you the Rams wouldn't overlook that because all Sean McVeigh has to say you remember we got a guy who won a Thursday night game for us last year, two days after showing up here in Baker Mayfield. Yeah. OK. And that guy, you know, hey, Cooper Cup, what did you do? You won a Super Bowl MVP, right? So did the guy who's starting for Cleveland. Honestly, I mean, there are ways to kind of snap the Rams into attention if they're overlooking Flacco here. All true. And the Browns could use it, man, because it's seven and five.

Either the Broncos who have beaten the Browns or the Texans, who I do believe play the Browns coming up. Right. Let me see this right here. Make sure I got all my ducks in a row.

Yes, sir. They've got Cleveland coming in their house in week 16. Either one of those two teams is going to be seven and five, just like the Browns would be with a loss. And there's a lot of teams in the AFC that can come and snag a playoff spot from the current six seeded seven and four Cleveland Browns.

That's my one more matchup for most intriguing matchups of week 13. Let's go to the phone lines. So I believe it's Shravan in Washington, D.C. back here in the Rich Eisen show. Good to get to chat with you again, sir. Hey, Rich, how are you doing, man? What's going on? What's on your mind?

Well, first of all, let me say hello to Chris, T.J. and Mike. So yesterday you weren't off on a rant towards Chris about the situation regarding Ohio State potentially getting into the playoffs despite not playing in the conference championship. OK.

So hold on before you before you go on before you go on. I'll push back on the use of the word rant. I don't believe I ranted. I don't believe I ranted. I think I don't interrupt. I think I was making salient points, but go on.

What else? He's cooking right now. OK. Well, yeah, as you know, I keep a list of Rich Eisen rants. And yes, I have narrowed down the top five moments.

Rich has gone off at Chris Brockman. Oh, wow. OK. Oh, hold on a second. Since you have taken the time for your own production value, let us let us add ours.

Go ahead. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's top five. All right. The floor is yours. What do you got?

What do you got? So number five was July 7th, 2021. This was the day that Aaron Rodgers had come back from his darkness retreat. And Chris tested rich rather humbly about things that would trigger him.

And funny enough, one of the things that he did was the schmuck owner of the New York Knicks, James Dolan. And Rich got so mad, he was saying, Oh, get that screen off the face, Chris. Mm hmm. OK. Then Chris says, Chris, Rich, don't yell at me.

Am I yelling? I didn't realize that. OK, very good. Chris doesn't even remember that. OK, that's number five. Now there's number four.

What are you going? So number four was June 1st, 2023. Rich had the audacity to call out Chris for his patriot cheerleading ways.

OK. However, Chris has enough to stand off on that because for 20 plus years, he was sitting top of the football world while the Jets were either getting a quarterback with mononucleosis. The Bucks fumbled the fake spike that almost happened. Yeah, even though the Jets won that game with James Dolan.

Even though the Jets won that game with David Gibson. And the list goes on and on. OK, number three. Number three was what we just mentioned, which was passionately making a point towards Ohio State, somehow potentially getting in despite not being in the conference championship. And he was going off at Chris while Chris was just saying, yo, if you want to be another competition committee, I'd be more than happy to do that. Yeah. And Chris thought my point was because I was grinding an ax against my hated rival in that school down south or whatever they would want me to refer to.

But it was really the way that Chris was not viewing the criticism. Right. Of the competition, the college football club committee was actually the way that I do my power rankings that he's always critical of. So what are the final two?

What do you got for your final two? Yes, sir. Quickly, I'm also diehard Michigan fan, so I totally understand you at a boy. I'm glad we agree. Yes. This this is kind of funny.

September 20th, 2021. Jack Wilson has just thrown four interceptions against the Patriots. And this was saying, I want to get to you, Chris. And Chris was being humble and kind and saying, hey, Rich, hey, buddy.

Rich points his finger and angrily yelled, Damn you and everything that you stand for. Wow. Kind of, you know, I mean, that kind of memory hold that one. OK, I'm sorry about that, Chris. I didn't mean to say, damn you. Thank you.

OK. And you got what's number one? My God, what's worse than that? Oh, this is going to make Mike Del Tufo yell fantastic at the top of his lungs. OK, this was June 5th, 2020. Deion Sanders Clinic School was playing Michigan on television the day Michael Westbrook made the big play.

Yeah. Rich was saying, can't watch it, won't watch it. Wouldn't watch it. Not going to watch it. And then says, And then this dude, Chris, with his pink peach golf shirt has the nerve to text, Rich, whatever you do, don't turn on ESPN right before Chris Fowler texts you.

Rich, what are the chances? I was wearing a nice golf shirt. Stravan, I appreciate your fandom and also your your attention to detail. My goodness gracious. All right.

You're you're officially the Arias consulting archivist. It seems that way. Yeah. OK.

He's in Washington, D.C., home of the Smithsonian. There you go. It's well done.

Stravan in Washington, D.C.. Nice job, man. Give him a fantastic. It's what he wanted from you, from you. I said it was fantastic.

No, I don't think so. Give it to him right now. Give it to him right now. Fantastic.

It's not the same. You know, it's like he said, he's trying to help you, Mike. Come on.

Help you. I mean, what would Earth say about that? Seriously. And let's see how Earth responds to that. Let's see.

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Call click Grainger dot com or or just stop by. I just mentioned it's the game of the year. I know we keep on saying game of the year, game of the year. Chiefs and Eagles being a Super Bowl review and potentially who knows preview. This is I mean, this is this is this is Philadelphia in Philly. We all know what happened the last time. I mean, I don't know. Was the Eagles Chiefs circled on the calendar by both teams, do you think? In the same way this one was. No, well, there is. Well, there wasn't the off season, you know. Yeah, arbs being thrown back and forth between the Chiefs. Yeah, nobody on the Juju, Smith Houston didn't call Bradbury trash, right? Right, right, right. For instance. Yeah.

Can't wait for this one. And he's awesome at doing this job for Fox. And he is back here in the Rich Eisen show.

He is NFL on Fox analyst Greg Olsen. How are you, Greg? Good to see you. Doing great.

What's up, Rich? Good to see you, man. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for doing it. I'm I'm fired up for this game. I mean, I'll just open the floor to you. What are your thoughts here on the Thursday before your trip to Philly here?

What do you got for me, Greg? Well, I'll tell you, I heard you just talking about before I came on, you know, did the Kansas City Philly game from a couple, you know, a couple of weeks ago, did they have that game? Philly circled when we got our schedule this year, when we found out that our first game of December was going to be a rematch. We were there last year for what was a crazy NFC championship. I mean, it's unprecedented that a team in the NFC championship, let alone any game, isn't able to attempt to forward pass.

They ended up changing the rule as a direct result. I mean, we watched that game unfold live in front of our eyes. And that second half was was interesting, to say the least. So now to get a rematch, not just a rematch, but a rematch at this time of the year, playoffs final couple of weeks of the season. December is always the most kind of intense run of the NFL season.

I mean, you're right. This is the game of the year. I know last week's game, Philly Buffalo was great. Philly Chiefs has been great. Our Philly Dallas game from from a few weeks back was amazing to me. This is the game of the year up until this point.

No question. Well, I mean, Hassan Redick, you call defensive ends who can sack quarterbacks game wreckers. He legitimately wrecked the game last year, like he legitimately when he got Brock Purdy in his mitts and Brock Purdy needed surgery based on the hit.

No. And then you were appropriately pointing out in real time, Greg. Brandon Ayuk was open. So had had Redick not arrived when he did, we could have had a game tying moment right there. And instead the game was wrecked a million percent from last year. Yeah.

I think that's the intrigue. I think that all led to the off season comments by Debo Samuel. We played the whole game without a quarterback. We know it would have been different that defense isn't as good. So the back and forth, I think the unknowns in the what ifs about how that game last year, that NFC championship last January, how would that have gone down if not for the early injury to Brock Purdy? And then the subsequent injury, the concussions, Josh Johnson, the backup who came in behind him again, we haven't ever seen a case where then Purdy had to then reenter the game.

McCaffrey went to Wildcat. It just it became unlike anything we've ever seen in the NFL as far as it was like watching NFL football a hundred years ago where there was no forward pass. It was interesting on that stage, but again, out of the control of anyone.

It just it was just a freak freak circumstance. I think all of that mystery, all of that, what would have what would have been of that game carries over now to this week. And now this week, Purdy's healthy. He's also well past that three game losing streak stretch in which he was turnover prone and injury prone as well. And last year, McCaffrey was still kind of, you know, looking for the looking for the consistency, even though he came out of the box terrific.

He was still new right now. He is MVP of the team, potentially, if Purdy's not. And they're performing so well. Debo had his best game of the year. So how do you see this offense against a defense that was just lit up by Josh Allen?

What do you got for me on that? Yeah, and to me, I think Philly is such a great story. The way they win their culture, what Nick Sirianni has done there.

Jalen Hurts, MVP, front runner. I mean, all of those things are are obvious to anyone who's watched them over the last couple of years. The defensive secondary issue is something that I think everyone keeps an eye on going into every week. And I think that's if there is one element of the team that hasn't quite kind of fused together to just be consistent week in, week out. Here's what we know we're going to be. They have games where they're great and then they have games where they kind of struggle to put a lid on the passing game and keep it under.

So I think that's the element. But as far as Brock Purdy and that matchup, the thing that stands out to me about Brock is typically there's one of two buckets for most quarterbacks, right? They either are high, high completion percentage. And typically those balls are at or near the line of scrimmage.

They're under 10 yards. There's not a real explosive element to the offense. But not only does Brock Purdy lead the league in completion percentage, he leads the league in passer rating, which, OK, he leads the league in yards per attempt, right, which is telling me that he is maximizing every throw, their ability to generate explosives that the best in the league at it running past. That to me is the part that I don't think people recognize. And I think part of it is he gets a lot of a lot of it.

Obviously, it's the great scheme. Yes, a lot of it that he's got great skill players around him. Yes, but he's still playing quarterback at a really high level. And I think he needs his praise. He needs his due because he is the point guard of what is an albeit very talented and a very productive offense.

And then let's flip the script here. The Philadelphia offense, they they they have looked for three quarters in a couple of straight games as if they're they're beaten. It looks like the line of scrimmage is not theirs, despite them being the kings of the brotherly shove.

And then all of a sudden, poof, things completely magically change or not magically change. They have the personnel and the grit and the fortitude to overcome and win. What are you seeing on on the offensive side of the ball for Philadelphia that we can all hang our hats on here, Greg, what do you got? Yeah, the obvious stuff is everything you just said, the offensive line, Kelsey, my lot of Lane Johnson, hopefully he's back this week. He missed last week's game against Buffalo with kind of kind of reinjuring that that nagging groin he's had for the last couple of weeks in the last couple of seasons. So hopefully he's back and they're healthy.

AJ Brown, Devante Smith talent again, just like San Francisco talent is if you like good players and pro bowl players, this this is the game, right? But having said that, there's an old saying that we that would get kicked around a lot, like we don't always need your best. We would love that. But we need your best when your best is needed.

And I don't think there is a team, an individual Jalen hurts that encompasses that entire philosophy. They might struggle in the first quarter. They might struggle for three quarters.

But when everything is on the line and it's it's do or die time, they just have that thing you can't put your finger on, you can't quantify it. You almost can't coach it. It is just the nature of their culture there and everything they've built that they are at their best when the game is on the line and needed the most.

And that is a very powerful tool in this league, because if you only have one pathway to victory, Rich, if this is this is the only formula we have to play or else the game goes off the rails, you're going to win games throughout the course of the year. But it's going to be very hard to win consistently because each week presents such a unique challenge. They can win a variety of games. Their path to victory can be a million different directions. Those are the teams that find themselves not only in the playoffs.

That's obvious. Those are the teams that are the legitimate Super Bowl run Super Bowl contenders, because every week their margin for error is so big. So you're thinking, Greg Olsen here in advance of calling in with Kevin Burkhart and the rest of the Fox crew the game of the week, if not game of the year in Philadelphia, rematch of the NFC Championship game right here on the Rich Eisen show. So you're what's what's Kyle Shanahan thinking right now? What's your best guess of what he's thinking Thursday before? Greg, you know, we haven't talked to him yet, so I'm completely speculating.

So this is no inside information. Haven't spoke to him yet. I think if I'm Kyle and I take a look at my last couple of weeks post by, you know, they had that little rut there for a while where they lost three in a row. We called their game against Cleveland when they kind of got upset, which started that three game losing streak, went into the buy, got healthy. Trent Williams is back now. This looks like the 49ers team we saw against Dallas and early in the year. I think if I'm him and I say, OK, what's my best opportunity?

And what's my formula? They need to play with a lead. Two reasons.

One, it fits everything they do as a team, right? They are a run play action. They don't want to be in drop back. They don't want to play from behind. They don't want to have to chase points. They want to control the tempo of the game. But their offensive line is more equipped to be run blockers than pass protectors.

They do a great job protecting them. Aside from Trent Williams, the rest, they can kind of scheme with the play action. And obviously they want McCaffrey to touch the ball 500 times because why wouldn't you? So with that being said, it also now plays against maybe what Philly wants to be. Philly wants to play with a lead. They want to be able to lean on their second half run game and their pass rush to close games out. What we've seen against Philly's defense the last couple of weeks is because they've been trailing and they've had these big come from behind unbelievable finishes. Teams have been able to run the ball on them. Teams have been able to not just drop back and pass and say, all right, I got to chase this lead. And that plays right into the hands of Philly when they just drop back and they get to have Hassan Redick and sweat and these guys just rush the passer. The rush yards have gone up a little bit because teams are able to do it more. Who wants to run the ball more than San Francisco?

Nobody. The more so it all just plays into the philosophy. So if I'm Shanahan, I want to get an early lead by being aggressive. Make Philly trail me as much as humanly possible, because that allows me to stay in my formula of success that we've seen now for the last couple of years. And it also allows us to play against what Philly does, which is third and long. If you're going to pass rush me, that's a hard matchup for any team. That's not really the strength of San Francisco's offensive line against this Philadelphia pass rush. Plus, Purdy really hasn't won that game from behind in the fourth quarter, one more drive to go.

You know what I mean? We haven't seen that yet from him. And as a matter of fact, those moments, they needed it from him, and that was part of the three game losing streak.

We didn't see it. We didn't see it in that three game losing streak. You know, when you look at a lot of their wins, they're blowing people out.

Right. They're blowing people out. And yeah, you know why you're the best run team in the league? Because you get to hand the ball 25, 30 times a game to McCaffrey because you got a lead, you're not chasing score that's gotten away from you. Like, everyone always looks at the raw date of like, okay, you're the best run defense. Well, am I the best run defense? Because nobody runs against me because I stink defending the pass. There's no one run against me because my offense is really good. So I'm always playing with a lead and other teams can't afford the run. So there's always so much more to the numbers.

There's always so much more. And when you boil it down to the philosophy, Kyle Shanahan has his style that's been proven that they want to be. And then the other side, Sirianni's got a formula that you could argue has been the best formula in regards to winning over the last two years. So it's this is high level coaching, high level culture, talent everywhere. This is the epitome of NFL football.

Greg Olson here on the Rich Eisen Show. I'd be remiss if I didn't hit you on a couple other topics, including your Thanksgiving Day game. How real are the Packers, Greg? I mean, right.

What do you got for me there? Yeah, well, it's kind of an interesting we've kind of seen Green Bay. I've gotten to study them on kind of the bookends of their season. And everything in between has kind of been up and down.

You don't really know what to make of it. But we called them week one against Chicago. And we came out of Soldier Field saying, wow, like, I don't know how good Chicago is week one, they're figuring out. But Green Bay looked apart and Jordan Love looked apart. And then we saw them. They've had ups and downs. They wanted to give up on Jordan Love. And then the last three weeks we talked about at the open of the show, we said these last three weeks, if they can get this Jordan Love and these young playmakers that are dynamic, inexperienced, yes, mistake prone.

Sure. But they are fast. They are athletic.

They are explosive. That element of their offense really started to come together for three weeks leading up to that Detroit game. So we kind of came into the Detroit game saying if the defense can hold up and not make this a thirty five point plus game. They got a shot and sure enough, that's exactly what happened, that defensive line, which was really the only healthy element of Green Bay. They dominated the game. Rashawn Gary and Preston Smith, they dominated the game. And Jordan Love played his fourth game in a row.

That was his best game of his career, albeit his young career. So I think they I think when it's said and done, you're talking about that seven seed, that third wild card. I don't are they not better than Atlanta? Are they not better than I would argue that they are.

Right. You also got the Vikings in that mix at six and six right now. The Rams have come on strong.

They're five and six as well. You know, and they can absolutely catch a little bit of fire here. And, you know, they got Kansas City on Sunday night.

So that would be quite a shocker for them to get to five hundred that way. And what about the Lions, man? I mean, you know, you got them fresh off of the taking, you know, snatching victory out of the jaws of defeat against Chicago. And then they got I mean, that wasn't just an outlier because Love was playing well.

I mean, Rashawn Gary got after it. You were talking about the health of that Packers defensive line. And that's the strength of Detroit and on offense is that that offensive line, they got they got hit in the mouth, man.

They got crushed on that day. What are what's your level of concern for Detroit, Greg? Yeah, Detroit Lions fans hate us. Detroit's only lost three games. They've only lost three games. And unfortunately, we've called all three. Oh, you're the voice of their misery.

I didn't know that. So I just discovered that for any Detroit Lions fans, we apologize. It is I promise you, OK, it is not it's not we don't wish anything on anyone.

Let's look at it the other way. At least you're not in New Orleans for them this week. Greg, we've you know, you won't be there. OK, great. Yeah, they're saved.

They're saved from us. But no, you know, I think I really like Detroit. I love first of all, I love Dan Campbell. I think Dan Campbell is the perfect mix of old school grit, toughness, motivation. But he also views the game as a very modern coach. And I know the fourth down stuff kind of didn't go his way over for over five on the fourth down tries. That's been him since he took over in twenty one. He believes in the culture of being aggressive. Winning creates more winning habits. He's been true to that since game one when they started out struggling in twenty one before they flipped this thing mid last year. So with that being said, what got away from them in that Green Bay game is when we talk about being able to play different styles of offense, right?

Being able to play different styles to victory. That style didn't play great for them because they fell behind. And when they're chasing points and they're not in that play action mode and they're not under center and they're not using their run actions to open their run game and vice versa, that's the Ben Johnson offense. That's the beauty of what makes that offense. In my opinion, the best offense in the league from a scheme standpoint is the Ben Johnson, the Kyle Shanahan McVeigh, that tree of guys I think is the best offense.

It's just hard to play from behind in it. It's such a run action, play action, under center boots, boots, naked that all of a sudden that you're chasing a two score deficit late in the second half and I got to be drop back shotgun. And that's when we saw Green Bay's defensive line really take it to him.

So, again, formula for success and how games line up either play into or out of what you're good at. And I think Thursday was the perfect example of the game got out of the style that Detroit wants to play and trying to play from behind there. They had a couple of turnovers, stacks, pressures, and it just kind of spiraled. And it came down to a couple fourth down failures and they were one possession short there at the end. Yeah, the problem is, though, is the team they're chasing in the conference just won a bunch of games or on a heater right now, winning games that aren't going their way or aren't going the tempo that they like, right? The Eagles that were able to overcome it and the Lions have succumbed to it. And that's the team they're going to have to go maybe into their lair on a divisional weekend or who knows and win.

Like that's that's the rub right here for Detroit, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely.

And listen, are they capable of beating anyone any given week? Absolutely. Absolutely.

I agree. I mean, there is no question about it from a steam standpoint, talent standpoint, again, offensive line that plays well at the end of the year. I mean, I would say most football people say, all right, Philly's the best and Detroit's like one B, you know, they're right behind them. As far as five guys that can play at a high level run and pass again Thursday, notwithstanding. So they can win. But again, this is about increasing your odds, increasing your pathways to victory.

What's in your best likelihood? There's no question Detroit would love the playoffs to come through, at least host, you know, have to have them come through and host playoff games as much as possible. That is a great place to play. It is loud. Their fans are great. That is not an easy place. It's a different animal now having to go to Philly or go to Dallas or, you know, however the whole thing shakes out.

But barring a sudden collapse of Philly or a sudden hot streak by Detroit, I just I don't know if there's enough time left for them to catch up. Last thing for you here, Greg, and it requires a little bit of a wind up because I have worked with people who are terrific on the air who want to coach. And, you know, Dionne, as we all know, he's killing it at Colorado. I worked with him for a long time. Steve Mariucci.

I remember a few Super Bowls ago, a long time ago, Washington came knocking on his door and he really thought hard about it. And there is a report out there that you might be interested in in the Carolina Panthers head coaching job. And I'd love to ask you if what you have to say on that subject matter. Yeah. Greg. Yeah. I mean, obviously that that became a kind of a big story this week and whatnot. And obviously there's a lot of speculation and rumor and whatnot. I think the best thing I would say is who would it?

Right. Obviously, this is a city that I love. This is a team that I played the bulk of my career for. I want to see them have success. I live here. My kids are here. We want to see the Carolina Panthers return to, you know, the level that we were able to have a good five, six year run where we were one of the more relevant, one of the better, you know, one of the better stories in the NFL year in and year out playing in the playoffs.

Of course, I want that for them. I love Chris Tabor, the interim coach there. Me and Chris go all the way back to Chicago. He was a young special teams coach when I was in Chicago. We've had a good friendship all the way through these years before, you know, obviously before joining Carolina these last couple of seasons. So I want them to do well.

So I would be crazy if they said, hey, listen, what is this something you talked to us about to entertain and take that conversation that I think that's fairly obvious, right? This is a game that I've loved. This is a game that I've been involved in now my entire life.

And at the NFL level, you know, almost 20 years. So that's what I'll say about that. How that all plays out.

I don't know. I love doing what I'm doing right now. Calling games, studying games.

I love doing this. How that future unfolds, a lot of moving parts. Again, a lot of this is out of a lot of out of any of our control and whatnot. What I will say, though, which I think is a larger question and a larger conversation that has nothing to do with me. Yes, sir.

Right. We saw it last year with Jeff Saturday, last year with Jeff Saturday taking over. I think there is an instant reaction that unless you've climbed the ladder from assistant to the assistant to the assistant, all the way up through coordinator to that, that unless you've lived the NFL lifestyle in that ladder, that you can't be successful. And I just I think we have to be careful saying experience leads to competence. I think there's a lot of experienced guys who are very incompetent and there's a lot of inexperienced guys who are highly competent in all industries. We see it a lot in baseball. We see it in basketball where guys I mean, look at John Lynch. I mean, John Lynch had no experience in personnel. And I'd say he's done a good job. So I think we just have to be careful thinking that experience is the only prerequisite to being good at anything, coaching, broadcasting.

I mean, we see it in all other industries. So I've lived in this world for 20 years. I've learned the ins and outs of it.

Now I study it from a different angle. I don't necessarily think that in order to eventually get into being a coach and running a team, it has to be the only way we've ever known for 50 years. And those are the and everyone else is not a candidate.

And that has nothing to do with me. That has to do just with the industry. There's a lot of really smart, good football people. Look at John Lynch is the most recent great example.

And they've built arguably the best roster in football. Yeah. And your answer right there, Greg, is proof again of why you're so good at what you do and what you're going to do Sunday for Fox as well as it's a gen- you were just genuine right there. And that show is in your broadcast. And and and again, I've been around a bunch of players, former players like yourself who are great at broadcasting, who have this placed in front of them is potentially an opportunity or not. And and it's a difficult question to answer because a lot of people might think that means you're not happy with your current situation in broadcasting. And that's not it at all, that these opportunities are like unicorns if they are available to you. And it's just something that you would be, I guess, interested in coaching is what you're saying. Yeah.

Yeah. This is not something I'm chasing. This is not something I'm calling. This is not something I'm actively pursuing.

I I would call the A game at Fox for 30 years if they if that was what was in the cards, but again, we all know how this whole world works. Right. You know it. People come and go. People opportunities come and go.

You don't. So I'm just never a believer in anything of just slamming the door on anything that you love and anything that you're passionate about. I think we all entertain opportunities.

We all operate. And whether the opportunity comes or not, I don't know. Right. It's a hypothetical. It's a hypothetical situation. And that's why. And so to me, that's one half the equation.

And the other half the equation is in this hypothetical scenario. Why not? And again, not me. I got you.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom whoever. Yeah. Why can't former players who have learned the ins and outs of football and been around it for 20 plus years, just because it wasn't in the assistant coach world, but it was in a very similar, highly involved, highly stressful. Locker room, why not?

Why do we just dismiss that as a pathway? I don't know. I think it's an interesting conversation for people to have because other sports don't dismiss it. Other sports are open to it.

I don't have the answer. I just think it's an interesting conversation. Well, you know, who would say that all the time? I would hear it all the time from him. I heard it a lot from Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders.

And Deion is the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year today. You know what I mean? So, Greg, in the meantime, you are I say it every time. I don't care how many times is it. You're awesome at what you do. I can't wait to listen to you and Kevin describe the action on Sunday for a monster game. Let's do this again soon. Thanks again.

I would love to. It's always great to be on right back at you, man. That's Greg Olsen, everybody. Fox right here on The Rich Ozzens show. We're back with more in a moment, including T.J. Jefferson's fantasy advice coming up. I would expect him to be acting like that. Take the accountability, put that on yourself.

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There they are. I will tell you this, Chiefs fans, football fans. Brett Veitch was on Patrick Mahomes from the very beginning.

And Brett Veitch told me this year that we would take a picture with the Lamar Hunt trophy in the locker room of Arrowhead, and we did that. And he said that from the beginning multiple times. And now that is what we call an insider, an insider.

That's an insider. But look, I've known you for a long time. If I'm not if I'm not mistaken, you are a mixture of ecstatic excitement. Yeah.

And profound nervousness. Right. Yeah, I call it measured. I am measured. I am I am a I am a volcano of emotions inside.

Right now, I can see right now like you are, you know, because I don't I don't like to get the cart, you know, before the horses type of guy. I'm not I know the forty niners are a good team. I also know we're a good team. I love that about the Super Bowl. It's a great match up. We each have things we have to do to win the ball game.

We have to stop their run. And Patrick Mahomes has to be Patrick Mahomes. There's no doubt about it. It is just amazing seeing this moment for you, knowing how much it means to you that you're actually here at a Super Bowl. This is actually I couldn't believe it going down there on the field after that and high five and those guys in them and just just the fact that each told me you're going to come down on the sidelines and you're going to go in the locker room and you're going to kiss the Lamar Hunt trophy with me.

And that happening. And he said, brother, the next trophy we're going to kiss is the Vinnie. We kiss the Lamar. Let's get the Vinnie. Kiss the Vinnie. Kiss the Vinnie. I like that.

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Do you got it ready? There we go. Like we always do at this time. Week 13.

Guys, I'm just going to get into it. Chris, all season we've been waiting for the Kansas City Chiefs to find a suitable number two to Travis Kelce. Right. And it didn't look like any Sky Moore. We thought he was going to be the guy didn't turn out to be this. Tony, we thought he's going to be the guy didn't get to be the guy.

But now I think we got the guy and I think she writes guys is him. You see, week 12, the Raiders beat the Raiders, right? He had eight catches for 107 yards and a touchdown on 10 targets, 10 targets being the big thing.

We like the heavy volume there. Now, going against the Packers this week, they've allowed three receivers in the past two games to score at least 14. It will say 15 PPR points. So my home seems like he's kind of trust in Rishi a little bit. And if you remember, wasn't my home's the one who like suggested that the Chiefs draft Rishi Rice, he saw something in them.

He worked out with him. I think guys this week where she races him going into week 13. And also Brockman, I know you got some quarterback issues, right? But there's one guy on that Patriot team I think you can count on. And that's my guy, Ramondra Stevenson, going against the Chargers this week. He scored at least 13 points in five of his past six games. The Chargers are number eight in most fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs and nine running backs have scored at least 13 PPR points against him. Roll with Ramondra this week, because I don't know what the quarterback situation is going to look like in New England. No offense.

All right. You know who's not him this week? It's a guy I love. I think we all like him, but he's just not him right now. And that's Cooper Cup man going against this Browns defense to scored six point nine PPR points and or less five games in a row. I don't think it's safe really to call him a wide receiver one. Now, the Browns are number two in fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing receivers, plus cup looks like he's still hurting from twisting his ankle. And like week 11, I'm going to say if you've got a better option, sit him. He's not him this week.

Also, Kyler Murray going up against. Oh, my goodness. I got I got to. I mean, look, I got a better option.

I'd say take it colors play great, right? He's what this defense man. I got to have the pass rush is going to be a problem for Kyler.

The Steelers have only allowed one quarterback to score over 16 points a game against them. Just saying if you've got a better option, Rich, go with it. But if not roll with Kyler, I just I don't think he's him. And you know who might be him.

This is we're digging deep into the bag here. There's a receiver named A.T. Perry with. Oh, yeah, OK, come against the Lions. And I say this because a lot of A has a concussion. Rashid Saeed, he had a quiet issue like Thomas's guys. Mike Thomas is out. One of those guys, both guys are out.

A.T. might be him. He had two catches for 38 yards and a touchdown in week 10 against the Vikings. So going back a few weeks ago, it's got a great match up with the Lions and number seven of most fantasy queens allowed to our receivers. Thank you very much, D.J.

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Visit prize picks dot com for restrictions and details. A.T. Perry, man. I just know we're going to be texting each other if he hits. That's for sure. If he doesn't.

Well, don't call me Omaha. He was going to join middle of the next hour. He's coming up next. Eric Stone Street, baby, in studio hour three coming up.

We got about a minute and a half on the Roku channel. Anthony and Winston sales been hanging on. I think he wants more fantasy advice. I like you there, Anthony. Guys, I've been a big fan of you guys. He's a big fan of yours, except you're a Cowboys fan. I'm a 49er. I love all Cowboys fans and I love them. But that Cowboys rivalry. How can we help you, Anthony?

How can we help you see him? Punk and WWE got back together. They put their differences aside. You and I can do the same.

Hey, we can do that. That's what I'm saying. I like you a lot.

You're funny. I agree with you all the time, but I need help. I got Brandon Cooks on my bench. OK, and I have a lot of players on by weeks from now. And I have brand new tank down and Nikko Collins starting.

And I was wondering if I should start Ben Cooks. Oh, you got you got you got to roll with Tankdale. Always. Oh, my gosh.

That red cross by practice today. I think he's good. I think you're good. I think, you know, I I think he's definitely go.

Yeah, yeah. I think with it, Anthony, don't overthink it. I'd say go with that. But don't be surprised if Cooks has a big game tonight.

But I like your receipt. I would I would stick with it, Anthony. I was overthinking it because I'm the commissioner of my fantasy. No, you can't listen. I'm not doing so good right now.

OK, I'm five or seven. Oh, my goodness. Anthony, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. There you go. And by the way, it's funny. How like a clown clown?

Well, you amuse him, obviously. Do you have anybody else other than Kyler? No. OK, well, then you've got no choice. I'm in I believe in Kyler like I believe in Stone Street.

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