REShow: Bruce Feldman - Hour 2

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Quarterback consultant Jordan Palmer. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air and our phone lines are lit. We're going to take our phone calls in just a moment. 844-204-rich.

Number to dial. We just had our Thanksgiving food hot take segment where Chris Brockman says the empty calories that is stuffing, not worth it. Mike Del Tufo cut cranberry from the team.

Tell him to go right to the locker room. TJ Jefferson and I all had similar takes. You said sweet potato pie is better than pumpkin pie and then I just saw that. Raised it by saying pumpkin pie is trash. Long time producer of this program and current producer of What the Football, which by the way has Steve Mariucci telling John Madden turducken stories with Amy and Suzy. And we'll play that later on the show. Don just, he's also, well we'll explain in a second. He's had the hottest take. Turkey is a trash holiday protein is what he said.

Six words that don't compute. Unbelievable. And I think Chris, you as the commissioner of our fantasy basketball league should. Take away Jokic. Remove his trophy. No, remove his championship entirely.

Like the bat, like you should. Maybe I'll suspend Jokic for the week. You should remove, no you should remove, you should remove his banners like the NCAA does to people. You should vacate. You should vacate. I got to get us a trophy.

I got to get us a trophy. Turkey is a trash holiday protein. That's crazy. Okay.

You just haven't had a good turkey then. Exactly. I agree. 844-204-rich number to dial. Joe in Jamestown, New York just dialed in. What's up, Joe?

He's up. You there, Joe? Uh-oh. No, it's Jim, actually. Oh, Jim. Sorry, Jim. What's up? Okay.

What's up, Jim? That's okay. I love you guys. I love your show. I've been watching it since I found it on the Real Good Channel. Attaboy. And I watch it off whenever I have a chance during the day.

If I can't watch it live. Thank you, sir. I'm going to dial in and I'll agree with TJ about the steps because we have cornbread dressing. I grew up in Texas and we've always had cornbread dressing.

Yes, indeed. And I make my own sweet potato pie. And I'm really upset with people that make sweet potato pie, but they use pumpkin pie spices.

So, hey, I want my sweet potato pie to taste like sweet potatoes, not like pumpkin pie. You get it, Jim. You get it. Jim understands.

Jim's one of my people. What do you think about my take, though, that pumpkin pie is trash? Just total trash. No, I wouldn't quite agree with that. Okay. If I really have to have some, I'll have some.

So it's not total trash. Okay. Thank you very much, Jim. I got one other thing to say.

Yes, sir. The Cowboys still haven't beaten anybody this year. Oh, no, no, Jim.

TJ was so pleased with you, Jim. I've been a Cowboys fan. I've been a Cowboys fan.

I was born in 59. Okay. So I've been a Cowboys fan forever. Yeah.

This year they still haven't beaten anybody. I mean. I mean, you beat who's on the schedule, Jim. You know what I'm saying? Thanks for the call, Jim.

Appreciate it. I mean, come on. You know. You're saying the Jets are nobodies?

I don't know. They beat the Chargers in Los Angeles when the Chargers were just, you know, where the twinkle on the AFC playoff eye. You know, they, they, you know. They lost to San Francisco. I mean, nobody's got a point, right? Nobody's on the team.

He's got a great point, you know, again. That's why we beat Daniel Jones and Zach Wilson. 70 to 10 combined score to start the season.

And then they, they take Mac Jones and you got to turn them into pumpkin pie. Big four. Don't, don't buy into this. I'm with you guys. We need to talk to you seriously about the Cowboys at Super Bowl contenders. It's all coming together. You want to talk what MJD was just saying?

Best offensive wide receiver trios. I'm looking at the Dallas, America's team. They're back. The curse is over. Jimmy Jerry Kumbaya.

Yes. That's what he's smoking, bro. Give me some.

I'm trying, but I'm trying to, what's your gambit here? You're just trying to get him riled up or. I'm trying to hype up America's team. You guys need to believe. We don't need hyped up. I don't want nobody believing.

Guys, America's team plays Thursday and Saturday. Yeah. Bruce Feldman joining us shortly. I don't know about that.

Can I play music there? Please. Watch him. Just saying, the Cowboys.

I'm a believer, TJ. Let's go to Robert in Sparta, Wisconsin. Sparta. This is Sparta. Yeah.

When the movie came out, it was pretty big for us. What's up, man? What's up, Robert? All right. Well, I wanted to, in the spirit of Thanksgiving, before I drop any hot take that I might have, say thank you to TJ for the fantasy advice all year. Hey. Hope it worked for you.

He's got some at the end of the show today. I'm doing very well in the league right now, thanks to my ability to scrounge the waiver wire. Okay. That's very important. That's the most important thing to do. However, I need to apologize to Rich, because I can't help build the podcast Empire.

There's nine other people that I just can't tell them where I'm getting my tips from. Okay. So I wanted to know how I can make it up to you. Should it be a merchandise purchase, an extra donation to St. Jude?

I'll take that, sure. They'll do that, but it's better than a merchandise purchase. Or just, you know, tell your friends about the show. You just don't have to tell them, you know, we make you smarter, Robert.

Well, yeah, but I mean, I can't help but know, just think that TJ's tips are so good, they'll have to notice what's going on. Maybe after the league ends this year. There you go. See, just another month. Hang on. Hang on tight.

Another month. Listen, if you're just throwing money around, you know, I can cut me my cash out. Get out of here. That's so silly. Oh, but the hottest Thanksgiving take? Yeah.

My mom's food is better than yours. Yeah! Well done, Robert. Well done, Robert. Well done.

Good call. Rack him. Rack him. If we had a rack, we would rack him. Where is the rack?

I think it's just a term. You know what the rack is? What? That's when you got beheaded.

How do you guys not know that? No, it's not. That's a guillotine. They called it the rack, too. No, the rack is when you're... The rack is when...

I can't believe we're talking about medieval torture. Braveheart. Dude, the rack is when you're... Braveheart. And they extend you and then you're... Yeah, the rack.

That's like Braveheart. I actually think the rack is simpler. It refers to like a rotary phone where you just like hang it up. Oh, is that what... Rack him? Rack him, I think. It's a torture device. I mean, what are we doing? Here's the problem, is that, you know... The rack was Lex Luger's finishing move today.

It's a human torture rack. There's one person we could ask, and I don't know if he's talking to us. Who's that? Okay.

844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let us do it. And when I say us, I mean me.

And you guys, gimme crap. It's now time for yet another Rich Eisen Power Rankings. Power Rankings. Power rankings!

There are many like it, but this one is mine! Power rankings! Let's do it. Let's do it. Go. I'll be straight up with you.

Go. There's not a lot of drama in these Power Rankings. Oh.

Because last week's Power Rankings, of the ten teams, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight of them won. Which shows you, I know what I'm talking about. You understand?

Is that what it is? That's proof. If I say these are teams worthy of the top ten, and I'm fortunate enough to not have them play against each other, and they all win against opponents that aren't in the top ten, it makes me right. You understand? Now then, that's the preamble to say not a lot's changed. Okay. However, new team on the list. I've been resistant.

I've been resistant. But no more. The Cleveland Browns are on the list. You just made the list! They did.

DTR. They have seven wins. They're on the list. I believe in you.

They should have been on the list. Excuse me, there's a lot of seven-win teams. DTR, I believe in you. This defense, boy, do I believe in that part of the unit. And I mentioned earlier this week, hey, Kevin Stefanski for Coach of the Year, we've got to get talking about that.

He should be in a lot of conversations. The Cleveland Browns this week are at Denver talk about a great game for playoff contention and a lot of jockeying and wildcard playoff positioning and maybe tiebreakers. That's number 10 on the list. The Cleveland Browns are in my power rankings. Number nine, no change. There were nine before. They're nine again.

Jacksonville Jaguars, they're number nine. Too low. Nope.

Because the team that's already beaten them and can sweep them is right above them. No change. They won.

No change. Houston, Texas. They're number eight on the list. Taking on Jacksonville.

Can't wait to see it. C.J. Stroud, baby.

Here we go. Enjoy that Sunday victory if you get it. They played them in week three. You'll be licking your wounds from the Saturday game before it.

Don't love it. Number seven. They won. No change.

The Miami Dolphins are sitting there at seven. No change. Yep.

They're going to win again this week, too. Tim Boyle. Oh, my God. No. By the way. What if Boyle does it? How about this one?

Oh, OK. How about this? Did you know that Tua did not play against the Jets last year? It was Skyler Thompson in both of the games between the Dolphins and the Jets. Yeah, the Jets got the Dolphins after Tua got knocked out and concussed against the Bengals. And then the last game of the year after he got knocked out and concussed against the Packers.

Wow. This is Tua's first start in three years against the Jets. Or two seasons. Three seasons, two years.

Whatever. They're seven. Number six. This team won.

No change. Ravens sitting there at six. I think they're going to win on Sunday night. They're the one seed in the AFC. How are they six? Because if they take on the five seed Detroit Lions, I think the Lions beat them.

Oh, you're nuts. The Lions. They win? No change.

The five seed is still the Detroit Lions in my power rankings. Fine. Call me nuts. Nuts. OK. Number four. Day one. No change.

The Dallas Cowboys. They're four. Woo. Yes. They are fourth on the list.

So, I'm telling you, I don't know a lot of drama. I could go in and rob. Listen, I think the Cowboys do beat the Lions if they played each other right now. That's how I'm ranking. There's a method here. Would the Cowboys beat the Ravens? I think they could. Yeah. Could? Right.

Our defense is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I do. OK.

But we'll see what happens, you know, over the next couple weeks. Oh. Leave me alone.

This is Rich's list. Now we've got to change. Down one spot. Uh-oh. Because they lost Monday Night Football. Chiefs. And I'm not dropping them further than three.

They can't score in the second half. Excuse me. I know that. I know that. I talked about it yesterday.

We even had a nifty graphic about it. They should be six. No, they shouldn't. Because they had this game. They did lose it. But it was so damn close. It's a razor's edge, and by the end of the season, the Kansas City Chiefs will have 12 or 13 wins. And we'll be talking about this hiccup one more time, potentially, if we see this as a Super Bowl rematch.

Instead of a Super Bowl rematch in the regular season, the actual rematch in the Super Bowl. Number two, up one spot. San Francisco 49ers are really good. They're outstanding.

They are better than most. And I can't wait to see them against the number one team on my power rankings in a couple of weeks' time. The Eagles went into Monday Night Football. They were the one seat of my power rankings.

They beat the Kansas City Chiefs. The top of my power rankings stays like before. Like the Reds in Godfather Part Two. So there's my power rankings. Not a lot of changes.

Not a lot of changes. Bengals out, Browns in. Bengals are going to have to work really hard to get back in. You get a real opportunity to shake things up this week.

That's right. And you punted. I didn't punt.

How did I punt? Eight teams win. They won. 8 of the 10 won.

What are you talking about? You punted. I didn't punt at all. I didn't punt at all. And by the way, if I punted, I coughed and cornered it. I nailed it right on the one-foot line. Eight teams won.

What am I going to do? Swap it around after they won so you can say, well, they won. How do they drop two? They won. Whatever.

Not as impressive in the win. Oh, God. That's your power rankings.

Mine are that. Eat it. Stays like before. Well done. Where did that come from? There's no way you had it. Pay attention.

Did you have that as a drop? No, no, no. I got it. I found that. I found it quick. Wow. Nobody has it perfect.

Stays like before. I'm stunned. I'm stunned. Well done. I know. I was about to look up, see if it was because college basketball was at halftime. There you go.

The rent stays like before. Just for you, double. Thank you. Wow. Let's take a break. Wait.

Didn't he actually have to drop the rent, though, once he got the look from Don Vito? Oh, yes. And then, yeah. He dropped it, right? Yes.

Then he dropped it. I won't succumb to such pressure. That's my power rankings. Live with it. I'm okay with four.

Adam on Twitter says, anyone who hates pumpkin pie should seek mental health. Okay. Great. Awesome. Well, Dr. Murphy needs to come check us out. Very good.

Or go to prison. He did a slash. Wow. Really? I think it's a little harsh. A little aggressive. Prison. Get out of here. All right.

Some prison food's probably better than pumpkin pie. Take that, Adam. I'm in the mood. I'm in the mood. I'm in the mood.

My heart takes stairs like it before. Wow. All right.

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I have a question for the people in the studio. Yes, sir. Who do we think wins the 40 race, Barkley or Rich? Barkley Briggs of Davidson football or me.

Beats Rich by like a second, probably. I think he wins, Bruce, and he's invited. Is this the greatest farewell to college announcement you've ever seen, Bruce? This kid? It might be. Look, I'm guessing Barkley Briggs will have a future in some form of media or entertainment because he's clearly got a good sense of humor about himself and he'll be a place for it. Yeah. Maybe he'll provide the motor for bussing with the boys.

Maybe he'll do that. I actually thought it was Jason Kelce at first. It's like an old Cincinnati photo. Let's jump into it, Bruce. Why haven't we heard anything on the Michigan ticket scandal for like five days? Are we done hearing information? Is everybody zipping it because there's a game coming up? Why aren't we hearing anything?

I think everybody got their pound of flesh. Jim Harbaugh is not going to be coaching in this game and Tony Petitti and the Big Ten have moved on for the time being and now we're going to have the game and it's going to be nasty. I can't wait to get to Ann Arbor tomorrow. Tomorrow? Thanks to me. Yeah.

I'm there tomorrow. There's been so much buildup and now we actually have it. Sharon Moore is going to be coaching Michigan, not Jim Harbaugh, but right now Jim Harbaugh is coaching them at least until game day. I think all the other stuff that's around the game is still going to be around the game, but for now we're going to find out is Michigan actually better than them? So again, you're saying everybody's gotten their pound of flesh, so there's nothing left to leak? You know what I mean?

I'm being serious here and I know that that sounds like I'm grinding an axe here. There's a lot of stuff that people still want to know, certainly. I think on the Michigan side, they want to know where did this investigative firm show up from?

Who tipped them off? I think we all want to know also not just who at Michigan else might have known about what was going on. There's a lot more detailed stuff that the NCAA is certainly going to be digging into, but for now, in terms of the back and forth courtroom drama, I think that has been on the shelf at least. Once Michigan decided, hey, we're good, we'll accept the suspension from the Big Ten and the Big Ten's going to let the NCAA handle the rest of it for this point forward, I think that's what the Big Ten coaches, I think, were pushing for. I'm sure the ones who had to play Jim Harbaugh on Saturday as opposed to the way the suspensions worked, I think those people probably aren't thrilled. Certainly, it's not like there's going to be a lot of people who are going to say, look, for two years, this we felt was against the rules, the spirit of the rules. Those outcomes really can't change those.

At this point, what else can you do going forward? What's your two cents on the actual game since we're arriving there and the drip, drip, drip has stopped and leakers are zipping their lips or there's nothing else to report? What do you got for me now that now Toe's about to meet Ball on Saturday? Yeah, I still think that everybody who's on the Michigan sideline is convinced that they are the tougher, more physical team than there are tribal.

I know it. I know that's what they think because I was behind the bench when Mike Sanderstill and Barrett were rallying their teammates. They're convinced and they feel like they have their own video evidence. They saw it last year, like in the second half of that game. Now it's on Ohio State to be more ready and to look, they're really talented. They have Trevion Henderson back. He wasn't healthy in mid season. He sure looked healthy last week against Minnesota. Kyle McCord is a really young quarterback who's been in some tough spots this season, but this is going to be a different animal going into that snake pit that Ann Arbor is going to be after all this, especially against a really talented defense with probably a better defensive line than what Michigan had last year. JJ McCarthy didn't look to be at his best last week.

Maybe Maryland was a trap game, it was back to back road games with all the drama around Jim Harbaugh, whether he's going to be there or not and all the stuff. Now JJ McCarthy to me has a significant advantage at quarterback. Last year I wouldn't have said that because you had CJ Stroud there.

Now you have a guy in McCord who's making his first start in this game. Now he definitely has great receivers and really good skill talent. I don't know if his offensive line though is, I don't think it's as good as the one they had last year with a couple NFL offensive tackles and it was just a more seasoned group. This group has had some good moments and it's had some not so good moments, but to me that I think is where the game is. It's really Michigan's offensive line, which has been so good, it was a little banged up last week, but we're going to see does Michigan in the trenches dominate this game or does Ohio State hold its own and if it does, then I definitely think Ohio State has the skill guys to win this game. Well, yeah, so from my seat, my concern, Bruce, is the Michigan run game this year has not been its forte.

It really has not been. Coram scores from the five yard end, right? From the five yard line in, he's been money there, but between the 20s, it's been a bit of a struggle to get a run game going and outside of the obvious of trying to contain Marvin Harrison Jr., the concern I have is McCarthy, who hasn't looked himself the last two weeks. I'm wondering if he's hurt. Is that why Sharon Moore called a zillion straight run plays in Penn State? And he did not look himself in Maryland at all and if there's anybody who misses Harbaugh in game, it would have to be McCarthy, his spirit animal is not on the sideline, right? So that's my concern.

Yeah, and I think it's a valid concern. Now, look, the first I was in at that Penn State game, Michigan's right tackle was in for a long day. Penn State has super edgy edge rushers, super twitchy guys, Chop Robinson, most notable among them. They are different. Ohio State has really good defensive linemen too, especially on the outside.

They're different though. They're bigger guys. They're still really athletic, but they're not Chop Robinson and that was a big problem for Michigan's right tackles in the first quarter. And at that point, Sharon Moore just said, hey, we're just going to, we're just going to bully this team.

And they pretty much were able to do it. And for everything, you know, our Joel Klatt had said, you know, during the broadcast, JJ McCarthy was the one leading the bandwagon on, hey, let's just, let's just lean on them. Now in later in that game, he did look hobble. He did look hobbled with his leg and he didn't look a hundred percent last week, you know, going into that game though, it was interesting because you talked to coaches in the big 10 and they were like, JJ wasn't running as much before.

And they were like, okay, are they, they trying to preserve him from, from get from, you know, steering clear of the risk of injury, knowing we have that if we need it now, I don't know if he's, you know, if his wheels are a hundred percent like they were, we think going into the Penn state game, he didn't look at coming out of it. So I think they're going to need that though, because he is a playmaker and they do have a, they do have some really good weapons outside. I think this is a group that is better than what they had coming in to this game last year. But the, the run game has been a little muted and we all know that they are going to be challenged at offensive line. That's the, that's the group that has to win it for, for Michigan. Cause if not, if it gets into a game where it's, where it's like our Marvin Harris, you know, like Ohio State's receiver is just better than them.

Ibuka is really good, their tight end is really good, Kate Stover. And obviously they have the best receiver in college football and Marvin Harrison Jr. As good as Ohio, as good as Michigan secondary is, I don't think they're going to be able to completely shut that group down. Ohio State is just too explosive and that's not even talking about what Trevion gives them.

Bruce Feldman here from the Athletic and Fox Sports, heading to Ann Arbor later this week for the big game on Fox, big noon game on Fox on Saturday, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Rich football playoff committee, spat out a different quartet. Is it just as simple that Jordan Travis has gone from Florida State and that's why they're no longer four and it's Washington in there, Bruce?

I think it has, you know, they'll say, Boo Corrigan, the committee chair will say that it's some of the, the resume stuff where it balances out now that there's more results. Ultimately, I think that is the thing that has got to be your biggest concern if you're a Florida State fan. You know, Tate Rademacher did lead them to a comeback win when Travis got hurt last year against Louisville.

You know, by all accounts, people, people have a lot of confidence in him, but he's not the guy that was led one of the more prolific offense in the country. They still have all the skill guys. I think they're still really talented. Florida's banged up. Florida's not with their starting quarterback this week in that rivalry game, but then Louisville is a really good team. They've had a really good year.

I think Jeff Brahms done a terrific job in year one there. If you look at Florida State, uh, you know, if they get through Louisville and they get through Florida, I don't know how you, without their starting quarterback, how the committee could, could put them in a precarious position where it's still not good enough. Remember, they smashed LSU in the open or it wasn't even close at one point, I think that's where I'm 31 to nothing. It's it's, I get it, it's not their fault that the ACC is, is very shaky outside of them, but they've won all their games.

They, they scheduled a legit SCC opponent and it wasn't close. So I think if you're Florida State backup quarterback or not, you keep winning, you're going to have a place in the playoff, but it probably will be number four. So how does the, I guess PAC 12 championship game or how does it affect anything, right? Big 10 championship game, it, it, it does just kind of feel like this is the moment, right? This, this weekend is, is the results oriented or Alabama beating Georgia. Would that shake anything up? Like give me the, give me the seismic moments here over the next, uh, 10 days.

Bruce. Well, we're probably not going to get everybody to be undefeated. That's still undefeated. Right. I mean, so you, so start with the PAC 12 and let's say Washington gets through the Apple Cup Oregon and gets through against the good Oregon State team and does, you know, Ken Oregon avenge that defeat if they can and you're Washington, you beat Oregon twice, you have some other good wins. There's no way you're getting left out. Right.

Yeah. Then you're going, let's just assume that the winner of Ohio State Michigan is not going to stumble in the big 10 title game. So that's another one that's too, uh, then you're looking at if Georgia holds serve, they're definitely, they're going to be the number one seed. But if Alabama knocks them off, you would have a one loss Alabama team with the best win of the season beating Georgia in the sec title game. But they do have a head to head loss at home, no less against Texas and Texas handily beat them. Texas is in a much worse conference, at least for the time being, because they're not in the sec yet. But again, Texas does have a loss against Oklahoma who if, if at best Oklahoma will be a three loss team. If Texas gets to play them in the conference championship, it's not great. Like if you're Texas, you know, it's, it's weird to think it, but you, you gotta, you, you're in a really tricky spot there cause you're not going to overtake Georgia with one loss.

Absolutely. But I think there's not going to be an sec champ if it's a one loss team that's getting left out. I just can't fathom that. It's just not what the committee does. And again, I think beating Georgia would carry so much weight, but then all of a sudden here, like we're laying it out if, if, and it's a big, if, if you have an undefeated PAC 12 champ, if you have an undefeated, uh, big 10 champ, that's two, you know, if somehow Florida state makes it through, that's three, then something isn't, you know, it's like, it's the musical chairs game. Somebody's going to get left out that, that people are going to be incredulous about. What's your opinion of the way Caleb Williams has finished up his season in USC and the conversation in college football about that, Bruce?

You know, I think he's a remarkable talent. I think that program was sputtering all year and a lot of it was blamed on the defense. And I think that was only a part of the problem. They fell apart down the stretch and you know, one of the things I'll, I'll, one of the lasting memories I think I'll have of this season is after the game a couple of weeks ago, Caleb jumps in the, you know, in the stands and is in his mom's arms and she's covering his face. You can see his body is shaking and he appears to be sobbing and, and for all, you know, as great as he is as a talent and he won a Heisman and he's got a lot of NIL and a lot of other things, he's still a college kid and you saw that and you know, for there's, there's a lot of stuff that gets attention. I know one of your colleagues had tweeted about how, you know, he wasn't coming to, you know, he turned down some media availability after games and everything like that.

People can read into all that stuff, however they want to read into it. But you know, at the same time, I just feel like this was a program that was, was falling apart this year and he was the face of it. And you know, maybe five years ago before NIL, we'd look at it differently. You know, it's like people are a lot less forgiving with this cause they're like, oh, he's making a lot of money or he's doing commercials. And you know, I don't think, I wouldn't knock him if I was an NFL team because he didn't come to a press, I didn't decide he didn't want to come to a press conference.

It's like, I feel like that stuff now gets way overblown in social media. The thing I would be concerned about a little bit if I was an NFL team would be like, okay, has he picked up some bad habits and just trying to play Superman on every play? You know, and if you can sit there and watch with him and say, okay, you know what, we still think he's incredibly talented and we think he's really bright and we think all the things that I, from the people I know there feel about him, I think he's still going to be the first pick.

People can talk themselves out of it. It's not say Drake May is not super talented cause I think he is too, but I just think with Caleb, he became a, um, you know, kind of a, a target because for all sorts of reasons, I just think people, you know, people were on Lincoln Riley's back almost from the time he left OU for the way he left it and it's only grown. And I think there's a part of this USC team which feels, you know, more, more, um, substance than style. And I think that's unfortunate for Caleb that, you know, he's the face of it, but I, you know, to me, I still think he's the guy who, if I was an NFL team, that would be the first pick of the draft.

No doubt. I mean, as I said on yesterday's show, talking about it, uh, Bruce, that any general manager that decides to not choose him because of these last two games and his comportment being questioned, uh, if they pass up on him every single time Caleb will wins and that general manager's team loses, he should be forced to have a press conference to talk about this very moment. I mean, that's, it's, it's nuts to me, uh, before I let you go, um, the, uh, our friends at Yahoo talking about new revenue models being discussed by the higher ups in the NCAA world about the future of college athletics and needing to revenue share with players. Um, Kevin white quoted as saying that the conversations being had, uh, are quote unquote in nuclear and how power schools might just leave the construct of current college football athletics and do their own thing. What do you think about that?

Bruce? What do you think? Yeah, well, shocking. I mean, I, I've talked to people in the sport coaches, especially who are like, you know, the NCA model doesn't serve us well. It's outdated and all these other things and revenue sharing from the coach. Some of the coaches I've talked to feel like that would be a good part of it. Um, I think we are headed to that. I think it's, um, I think it's probably in the best interest of major college football as it is to break away from the rest of the NCA model. I mean, I think there's a lot of people who feel like the NCA is rudderless and it's been outdated for a long time. I think that the sooner we have people like that who are quoted in that story, I think are putting their names to it. I think it only gives it that much more momentum because those are people who have strong voices and I think then all of a sudden everybody looks around and goes, let's find solutions instead of finding criticism because I think that's the part and I'm not, I'm not saying the wrong to criticize it, but I think we're already past the critic criticism stage. I think we need to be at the solution stage.

How do we work this out? How do we manage it? I know people don't love to say, oh, I don't want it to be like the NFL. The NFL, as you know, is wildly successful. There's parts of it that the college football can try to pattern itself and other things that it can keep that the way it feels like it needs to be to run differently.

But I feel like that's the stuff that they need to get going because the sooner they do it, probably the better off it's going to be for the good of the sport. Well, with Notre Dame's athletic director saying that, I hope nobody on the South Bend campus is buying hamburgers for anybody because one particular coach who advocated for this sort of thing publicly has suddenly found the fury of the NCAA falling on his entire shoulders. Bruce, didn't Jim say this? Didn't Jim say this?

Didn't he say this? Okay. So finally, before I let you go, on a scale of one to 10, 10 being me being completely ecstatic and one being me searching for a darkness retreat near Los Angeles, California, 5 p.m. Eastern time, 2 o'clock Pacific Saturday. What number am I? Bruce, what do you think?

What's your prediction? I think you're a six. Okay.

Very few times will I say somebody tell me I'm a six, that I don't take that as a complete insult, but I will accept it because that means I'm on the proper side. Oh, no, you're in L.A. Bruce, have a great time at the game, man. I look forward to seeing you next week and picking your brain on everything. Thanks as always. Thank you. Okay, take care.

The one and only Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports and the Athletic, here on the Rich Isaac Show. I think I'm a six. That means you win? It means I win. You won't predict, I mean, it's kind of a toss up. You know, Michigan's without their coach, the quarterback without the coach spent one day handing it off and another day throwing picks, throwing picks that he hasn't thrown and he does look hobbled, I'll be straight up with you. You're 5-0 without your coach. Once Harbaugh departed for the latest, one game against the toughest competition Michigan has faced all year long. On defense. This guy handed it off 28 straight times and then the next week through interceptions that he hasn't thrown all year long.

And the run game concerns me. These are the things that'll have me staring up at the ceiling on occasion over the next couple of nights. You're an Ann Arbor nine, Rich. Thank you. It's all good. Thank you.

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This is an outstanding exchange from his most recent press conference. Hit it. As you said, you didn't live up to your expectations. Yeah. Yeah.

My expectations is out of the darn park. You got to understand me. Come on, man. Yeah. What's the, what's those little foreheads that's in California. What do they call those?

The people faces engraved come on, man. I set up there. They said where? I thought it was in LA all this time. Wow.

My geography. That's the Hollywood thing. That's what I thought. I'm sorry.

Thank you for educating me. That's amazing. Oh man. Deon. Wow. Foreheads. The foreheads engraved. I love Deon. That would be jarring.

I mean, it's kind of funny because how many times has he probably heard conversations that he's on the Mount Rushmore of right. Two way athletes. Sure. College.

Defensive acts. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And he didn't know it was presidents in South Dakota. So what is the Mount Rushmore of Los Angeles would you say? Now here's the thing. Is it Hollywood? Is it just movies? Is it sports? I mean, what are we doing here? I guess we just got to go sports, right?

All right. So sports. You choose it. You choose it.

You dial it up. I was just thinking all of LA. So I think Jack Nicholson's on there. Okay. Yep. I like that.

You can even put him crossover for sports. Okay. So Jack's on it. Magic? Yeah, got to put magic on there. Hold on a second.

Yeah. What about Jerry Buss? What about Jerry? He brought magic to town.

He created the Lakers essentially as we still know them to this very day. Good one. I mean, you got to go Jack and Jerry. So then let's do that. Okay. And I'm dead serious when I say this.

I'm scared. I mean, wait, you got to talk about how does Jack represent all of Hollywood then? Steven Spielberg. Kind of. Yeah. He kind of does. Okay.

For actor or directors? He's a super famous sports fan. I'm throwing Vin out there. Okay. That's good.

Vin Scully. Now, are we just doing sports or are we doing... I don't know.

How do you... Los Angeles. So you have an actor, then you want to put a director on there, right? Yeah. It's like... I don't know. I mean, if you want to talk, you could... Spielberg's pretty good.

You could talk about power brokers in this town. Nobody knows who those are. You've never heard of Louis Waltz? No. Are you proving your own point? No. He's the one who once told the band leader he's not getting that part. Are we going to put the horse head on the Rushmore?

He was a very powerful man in this town. Oh my God. I can't breathe. Car tool.

Also, how far back do you want to go? That's the whole point. So we've got Jack and Jerry Buss. Who's our female? Who's our woman? I don't know.

On Mount Rushmore for Hollywood in this town? Penny Marshall? Come on. I don't know. Sports fan.

Like Kate Hepburn? I don't know. Bacall? Yeah. I don't know. Right.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Meryl Streep? Meryl Streep? Do you see Los Angeles? She's in the movies.

I don't know. Isn't she more Connecticut? I think she's so overrated. Oprah?

Oprah Chicago? I know. This is Los Angeles, man. I know.

That's what I mean. Easy E. Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe? It's Marilyn Monroe. It's Marilyn Monroe. It's Marilyn Monroe. You've got to put a music person. It's Marilyn Monroe.

Easy E, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube. Come on. Yeah. I mean, come on.

Imagine Johnson. You can't do this. You can't do it. You can't do it.

Mount Rushmore of South Dakota. You're right. I mean, it'd be- Right?

Yeah, but- Adam Vinatieri. That's factual. That's good.

That's good. Mary Hart. Is she from South Dakota? I think so, isn't she? Isn't she from South Dakota? Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, you're right. Madison to South Dakota. She could be on both. She could be both on the South Dakota- And the other.

And Los Angeles. Yes. Yes. From the city.

She could be on both. I don't know. Wow. It's hard.

Dion. It's in South Dakota. The four heads are presidents. Rich. Pretty good. And he knows that. I don't want to- Tom Brokaw.

South Dakota. Yeah. He's just in his tunnel vision right now.

That's a coach thing right there. Yeah. That's his- The four heads. Oh my God. Four heads. Get off me. Oh my God. Dion's the best.

Four heads out in LA. What? He literally- Hold it up, Prime. Hold it up. Okay.

Okay. More phone calls coming up in the next hour. What's more likely? Thanksgiving version. Jordan Palmer is going to be talking about what's going on with Josh Allen in his mind, and Jake Browning. He's his throwing coach coming up. I mean, the Mount Rushmore of Florida sports is even harder. Can you name the four presidents on Mount Rushmore?

Mike Del Tufel? Washington, Jefferson, Adams. Nope.

You're already wrong. Washington, Jefferson. Oh my God. I should- Washington? I've never been there. You're not going in order. You've never been?

I've never been there. It's one of the few places- Theodore Roosevelt. Abraham Lincoln. Roosevelt. That's right.

Abraham Lincoln. I shouldn't have known that. I'm terrible.

I'm a history minor, too. I shouldn't have known that. It's really cool. I couldn't have guessed. I went there when I was 12.

It was really awesome. I didn't pay attention in class, Rich. I was worried more about- It's also- It's beautiful. It's small. It's not as big as you think it is. What, the Mount Rushmore?

I'm going to go to Mount Rushmore after the show. It's just- It's just down the 101. You can see it. You can see it from my house. Literally see it from my house.

I'm like Sarah Palin. You can actually see it from your house. It's like Alaska. It's Sarah Palin's house. I was just going to say, I can see it. Mount Rushmore, Alaskans. Oh my God. You can have that, Chris. What about the Mount Rushmore of- I wasn't born there.

I lived there for a little bit. Mount Rushmore of Sanders' children. What order is it? That's a good question.

What order? Yeah. The door's hurting, so he might be number one. No.

No. Bucky's still killing it. Oh, boy. Mount Rushmore of Richest Kids, Rock Purdy. Rock Purdy.

Tom Brady. Josh Dobbs. He's my new one. He's my new adopted son.

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