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Rich will join us coming up in about an hour. Live from Germany, where this week there will be football made in Germany. Not soccer made in Germany, the old PBS show that I used to watch in the 80s. Football made in Germany. Football is soccer, soccer is football, whatever. It's the game of the year. It's the game of the week of the year. The Chiefs and the Dolphins, who have not beaten anybody. The Dolphins, that is.

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They get it right? 844-204-RICH. Thank you.

844-204-RICH. Yeah, 7-4-2-4. If you can't do the letters with the numbers. Who can't do the letters anymore?

You can do it. They're on every phone. Wait, hold on. Actually, they're not. Are they? Are they?

Yeah, they are. Now, could you dial a rotary phone? That's different. Could you do that?

Long Beach 619. Something like that. They don't get that. Is that a movie we could talk about on TV? The Godfather. Oh, that. I'm sorry.

I thought you were going somewhere else. It was on Showtime last night. Yeah, you know what I'm watching right now? I'm watching the Netflix Gotti doc. I watched the first episode.

There you go. I watched it too. A lot of people got killed. A lot of people died. Oh, my God.

I can't believe they killed so many people in the first episode. John Gotti. Anyway. RIP Paul Castellano. I know.

I could eat it. What was the name of the steakhouse? Hell, I did a show called The Justice Report that was actually just a pilot of like eight episodes, but it made the air on the CWs and everywhere.

It's also now on streaming platforms because we only did eight of them, and it lives in perpetuity. But we did an entire episode on the Paul Castellano John Gotti hit or John Gotti hitting Paul Castellano that an entire episode. I had very dark lighting. Chiaroscuro, I believe, is the right phrase. And I had a dark suit and very bushy eyelashes because I was a little bit over the top and me staring, you know, looking like sounded like Robert Stack staring into the camera. Nice. Anyway, I digress. Do you have a trench coat? No, there was no trench coat. No, no, no, no, no.

No, it was not in one of those films. Del Tufo watches. Hey, I kid. Comedic foil, Chris Brockman, Michael Del Tufo, TJ Jefferson. Good day to each and every one of you. TJ, what's the look?

Why the long face over there? Oh, nothing. I'm just well, during the break, we were celebrating. I was celebrating because at the beginning of baseball season, I told these two guys that Max Scherzer and Jacob deGrom would be World Series champions by the end of the year. And they are.

They are. The team I thought it would be. They didn't really do anything.

Like, they did nothing. But I was not wrong. So. Congratulations to Jacob deGrom World Series champion. No, in all seriousness, like I love Jacob deGrom. I wish he got raised man. Still pitching.

I wish he was part of it because he would have made it better. Right. And, you know, Noah Cindergaard's twin.

Jankowski is out there filling in for Adolis Garcia. And in all seriousness, we weren't going to lead again with baseball, but we'll do it. Congratulations to the Rangers. I hate the narrative. I said this last hour that no one watches baseball anymore.

It still gets millions and millions and millions of viewers. And I wish there were more because the Rangers are a great story. So are the Diamondbacks, by the way, for that matter. You had two teams that didn't qualify for the postseason until the final Saturday of the season.

The second to last day of the season, as Rich loves to say, the penultimate day of the season. And they were there at the end. Rangers are a great story. I'm happy for their fans.

Truly happy for their fans. Matthew Stafford, big Rangers fan. Everybody from the Metroplex known as Cowboys fans.

Every now and then get behind Dirk and the Mavs. Baseball fans. So many, so many players come from the state of Texas.

So many players in the majors grew up as Rangers fans, believe it or not. And yeah, they won. And it's a great story. And please don't let the narrative be. Nobody watched it.

More people should have. Dive in and learn these stories because there are great stories there. Let's flip ahead, if we could. Push ahead, flip ahead, move ahead, whatever, to TNF coming up tonight. I said before, I like Will Leviss and the Titans.

I am now regretting that selection. But I do think they hang in it. I think they could win tonight. They are in Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. And this is a huge one for the Steelers at four and three, heading into the mini-bi. Because it's a TNF game and they're the home team that always has the advantage on Thursday night. If they can get to five and three, they get Green Bay.

Then two big AFC North games on the road against the Browns and against the Bengals. So this one is huge for the Steelers who do not have, most weeks, a professional NFL offense. Now last week they did. They ran the ball well with both Jalen Warren, who I don't think is going to get fined this week, and with Najee Harris, right?

And they found a way to at least look like a real team before Kenny Pickett got injured in the first half. They want to complain about the officiating last week. Mike Tomlin opened his Monday presser by saying, we're not doing that. We will not complain. Winners don't do that.

That is not how we're going to operate. I did sit there, I was watching with Rich on Sunday, and watch Mike Tomlin, watch everyone get fired up, listen to Deontay Johnson after the game, saying and asking aloud, how much were they paid, meaning the officials, they clearly wanted us to lose. He is going to get a massive fine. Massive fine. It's one thing to say, I didn't like that call. It's another thing to say, they were paid to work against us. I think Deontay Johnson is going to get a, I don't call it a record fine, and I don't know if there is.

I was going to look it up. I don't know if there is actually a structure there for player fines, for comments of this level, but what Deontay Johnson said last week is as bad as it gets when it comes to officiating. They were paid, and they wanted us to lose. He must have forgotten the fact that the Steelers beat the Rams when Kenny Pickett rushed for a first down, that everybody in the building, including Kenny Pickett, and I guarantee you, including Mike Tomlin, knows was not a first down. So the hypocrisy from the Steelers, yeah, that roughing the passer call, I didn't like it either, guys. I didn't like it either. And the offsides on the field goal at the end of the half, I see why you're mad.

I do. You're probably right. I see where you were mad. But really, do you not have the sense of awareness to understand that the week before you didn't necessarily deserve to win? Kenny Pickett did not get a first down the week before. Didn't happen.

Didn't get it. And it's a bit of a loophole that that wasn't challengeable and that it wasn't an automatic booth review from upstairs. Now, in the, which was it, the Ravens Cardinals game on Sunday, there was a, like, hey, buzz from upstairs.

You need to fix that spot. And afterwards, the official said we were buzzed from upstairs and we fixed the spot. So we could have been done. They just chose not to do it in the Rams Steelers game. So that's my little rant on the Steelers complaining about officiating. They clearly have the edge tonight. They're at home clearly. But if for whatever reason, this offense isn't going well, this national spotlight game with Pickett banged up, even though he's off the injury report. It's going to be interesting, let's just say, how Al and Kirk play this if you hear the Fire Canada chants in the building.

Brooke Prior did a great piece on ESPN.com this morning, a long piece about why the whole Fire Canada thing has taken off here. Maybe more than in other places when you're not necessarily the fan base isn't necessarily in love with the play calling or an assistant coach or head coach or whatever. It is a thing in Pittsburgh.

It is a thing. That's what I will be looking for tonight. Heading into the rest of the week, the quarterback injuries and the quarterbacks that are being forced into duty. It is the most bizarre list of quarterbacks that we have ever had mid season in memory. I don't know that we've ever had a more bizarre list of quarterbacks mid season, not week 17 or 18 in December when seasons are over and guys are on IR and teams are folding it up early to prepare for the off season. Because that's always, that's why, for example, your fantasy league does its championship week 16 and not week 17 or week 18 now with the expanded schedule. It's because teams unload and empty the benches at the end of the year.

Let's go through the list. Before we do that, let's play Deshaun Watson earlier today because there's still uncertainty who's going to start against the Cardinals and there's uncertainty who's going to start for the Cardinals. But is it Deshaun Watson? Is he back this week? Or is it P.J. Walker? What chance do you think you have of playing in the summer?

I'm not even sure. I'm following the medical protocols and we just go from there. Is there a chance Deshaun that this is part of the ramp up period to get you out there in practice? Or does this mean that since you're out there in practice you have a really good chance of that? I mean, it's part of the process. It's part of the protocols because you cannot throw and you just go out there and try to play a game.

You know, it's part of the process and we just end it day by day. Alright, so if Deshaun doesn't go, it's going to be P.J. Walker again. And this would be his fourth consecutive start. He is 2-1. They are 2-1.

It's more than just a one-man band and the defense and the special teams have done the job. It would be P.J. Walker. Phillip, as some in Cleveland call him. P.J.

Walker. Deshaun Watson threw yesterday. Alex Van Pelt, the Browns offense coordinator, said that he looked better throwing the ball, better velocity in practice than he did two weeks ago when he started in Indianapolis, hit his head, hurt his shoulder, and then was pulled from the game. Deshaun admits that it feels a little bit better. My gut tells me Deshaun Watson is going to play Sunday. He wouldn't be on the podium on a Thursday. He didn't have anything on his shoulder yesterday when he was throwing.

No wrap, no brace, no extra padding. You're not going to get hit in practice, but it was free and clear. Now, is he going to be throwing a fastball 90? 5? 98? Probably not. Is he going to be the guy that has to paint the corners a little bit more to use a baseball analogy?

Maybe? Don't know, but I think he's going to play. So let's assume that he plays. There will be seven rookie quarterbacks playing this week. Anthony Richardson's not even on that list because he's out for the year. We have Will Leviss starting tonight, Bryce Young and C.J.

Stroud, obviously. Then you have Tyson Bajant for the Bears. You have Jaron Hall for the Vikings, fifth round pick out of BYU. Before the season, he was known as Jaron Hall. Really good, really good athletic quarterback from an athletic family and a BYU legacy who played good ball there.

Now he's known as Puka Naku as college quarterback. Jaron Hall, Clayton Toon could be playing the rookie quarterback out of Houston for the Arizona Cardinals. Although I think Jonathan Gannon's being coy and I think it could be Kyler, but it could be Clayton Toon. And then Aiden O'Connell starting for the Raiders. You could have those seven rookie quarterbacks throw in Taylor Heinecky, throw in very possibly Brett Rippon if Matthew Stafford's thumb doesn't heal.

It's all about swelling. He didn't practice yesterday. Sean McVeigh said that if it means a game time decision 90 minutes before kickoff and he didn't take a single snap in practice, if the thumb is OK, he would play. He would play. Some with the Rams are joking.

I heard this that, you know what, if if the Packers get the ball first and the swelling goes down in those 10 minutes when Green Bay has the ball, Matthew Stafford, if that thumb gets better, he would play. But it could very well be Brett Rippon with somebody named Dresser Wynn backing him up. Is that a real person? Dresser Wynn is a real person. Dresser Wynn. Dresser, like where I put my clothes at my bedroom.

Yes. Dresser. Dresser. Dresser Wynn. W-I-N-N? W-I-N-N. Not like the casino. Not like Spurgeon.

Not like Spurgeon. Got it. Nope.

All I do is dresser. All you do is win. Have we ever had a more bizarre week of starting quarterbacks? Let me give you that list one more time. Clayton Toon, Jaron Hall, Aiden O'Connell, Bryce Young, C.J. Strout, rookies, Will Levis, rookie, Tyson Bajant. Throw in Brett Rippon and Taylor Heineke. And maybe P.J. Walker. Gardner Minshew.

And a Gardner Minshew as well. This isn't week 18. It's week 9. What a bizarre list of starting quarterbacks this week. Wasn't last year the record for quarterbacks played in a season?

Wasn't there something like 60? We go through this list every year and I get NFL research on it. I'm going to get NFL research on it. We're already at a very high number of quarterbacks played. And if you go back to week 6 when P.J. Walker and the Browns beat the Niners, at that point, P.J. Walker was the first third string quarterback to start a game. The first. And obviously now that's changed.

That's definitely changed. People have said, well, Tommy DeVito. I think Daniel Jones is cleared to play.

Tommy DeVito, Syracuse legend, Jersey legend, is not going to be forced into action this week. But what a wild list. Like, it makes you grateful if you're a Seahawks fan to have a Geno Smith. Right? It makes you grateful if you're a Commander's fan to have Jacoby Brissette backing up Sam Howell if need be.

Right? And by the way, we're not even taking into account that what's-his-name Taysom Hill took a lot of snaps last week behind Derek Carr. Anyway, I digress. And that's with Zach Wilson, by the way, who's the second overall pick starting behind Aaron Rodgers. I mentioned Aidan O'Connell. Coming up, you would not believe what the Raiders did today to Jimmy Garoppolo. You.

Or maybe you would. The chicken hawk? Coming up, what the Raiders did today to Jimmy Garoppolo.

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I love it, I love Prizepix, you should too. Mike Del Tufo over there, when Justin Hartley of This Is Us was here on Friday, he planks weights on his back. Okay, there he is, putting plank after plank. That was a 45-pound, he waves on more weight.

See, come on, let's get some more. Del Tufo sees this and he goes, I could do that, is what he said. And he said he would do 145. Now, we took that, when you say he can do 145, how much weight do you think that means? Just 145.

145. Right. No.

No, one plate that weighs 145 pounds. Get out of here. Get out of here.

How long do you say you can do that? A minute, come on. All right, here we go.

Mike Del Tufo. Get off your knees. You're right spot in your mind now. Go.

You're right spot in your mind, buddy. Come on. Look at him. All we see is the finish line, baby. Coach him up, Irv.

Coach him up. Victory is simple, baby. Right there. Uh-oh, uh-oh. Don't worry about the body, baby. Our mind's controlling our body. Preach, Michael.

Preach. In our mind, we got this, baby. We got this. We gonna show the world. That's what you about.

What do we got? Show the world, baby. Don't worry about it. Just 24 seconds. Flat out.

Flat out, Mike. Don't worry about it. You got two blocks out. You got two blocks gone. Halfway home. You got two blocks gone. Halfway home.

You got two more to go. Just see that finish line. Look at the glory. Look at the chest touching the tape.

Get your chest on that tape. Look at you, baby. 20 seconds to go. You come in here.

Look, come in here in 20 seconds, baby. You finish this, man. We can do this.

It's my business. Go, go, go. Go, go, go.

Come on, come on. He's going for me. He's going for me.

Oh, my God. He's going for me. He's going for me. He's going for me.

10 pounds. Be a man. Be a man. Get up there, buddy. Where you going, baby?

Finish him off. Thank you, buddy. You're so native. Go, go, go. I do that every day, people.

The gym. I can't tell. I can't tell. Hey. Wow.

That was amazing. I'm sorry for the radio listener, but for the TV, the Roku listener, or watcher right there, we were playing an old tape of Michael Irvin putting how much weight on your back there, Del Tufo, to do the plank? 45, and then you put another 10. 45 out of 25? I think Chris put another 10.

45 out of 35? Either way, that wasn't a real plank, but your rear end was going straight up in the air. My physical therapist would be yelling at me, that's not a plank. What is this? I don't know what this is, but it isn't a plank. Whatever this is, is not a plank. I digress.

You killed him. Andrew Siciliano, sitting in for Rich Eisner, joins us in roughly one hour live from Germany, where eight hour difference? I think. Is it eight or nine? Eight? It's eight hours.

Chris Brockman. Michael Del Tufo. Is it nine hours in person? I'm told by Mike Hoskins in my ear that it is a nine hour difference. Yeah, nine.

People in Italy date. Okay. No, it's not.

It's 624 PM in Frankfurt right now. Oh my God. Nobody cares. I was just asking out loud. I thank you. No, no. I thank you for answering.

What I'm saying is there are people right now in their car going, Andrew, why are you doing this? But you answered the question, so I thank you. Yes. That came out wrong. No problem. If we were in a relationship right now, I would say, I'm so sorry that came out wrong. Thank you. Okay. I mean, I feel like sometimes. I am so sorry.

You guys would be cute together. You know what also came out wrong? What the Raiders did on Twitter today. Now, we've talked about this in the past.

I believe we spoke about this about three weeks ago. How very often the social media department in any building, especially for an NFL team, is not on the same page nor even in the same room or building sometimes it seems as the rest of the employees. And now sometimes the social media department does something that maybe the coaching staff or the football operations side is like, oh boy. The social media department means well.

And a lot of times, especially during the summer, they pre-build tweets and posts, right? They say, hey, we're going to schedule all of these. It's employee number one's birthday. So we're going to build a graphic happy birthday, employee number one or employee number 10.

You'll see where I'm going in a second. And they build the graphic and they just schedule it to post, right? So so-and-so's birthday is the 2nd of November.

Hey, intern from local university, can you during the summer build all of these and just put them in our schedule, right? So they're going to go out. They're going to go out on that day.

The Browns, for example, I remember this because it was awkward a couple of weeks ago. Happy birthday, Michael Dunn. Not Michael Dunn. Wasn't Michael Dunn? It was an offensive lineman. Michael Dunn's still there.

He's on IR. Whomever it was, it was a guy they had cut that morning. But the happy birthday tweet went out later that day. Maybe I'm remembering that wrong. Maybe it was a different team.

Regardless, you get my point. Can we put on the screen, please, what the Raiders did this morning? Happy birthday, Jimmy Garoppolo. Join us in wishing Jimmy Garoppolo.

Join us in wishing Jimmy Garoppolo a happy birthday. There's the bench. There's the bench. Your flowers and your cake are over there on the bench.

At last check, it has, it's not getting ratioed, but it is close. It has 6,000 likes and 2,000 replies. Now many of those replies might be, hey, we wish Jimmy were still starting. Many of those replies might be, wow, is he handsome?

I wish I was there to celebrate his birthday. But many of them are, Raiders, what are you doing? You just bench the dude, and then you're wishing him a happy birthday. This is one of those.

The social media department is not on the same page as the football department. But it is the right choice. This one's great. Someone just posted a picture of a bench, obviously, but it's in wrapping paper. So it's like, here's your gift. It's a bench. Here's, hey, where, where should we send the cake?

To the bench or, or to the building? Right. Listen, it's, I like Jimmy Garoppolo. I think he can still play.

There's a clipboard. Yeah. I think, I think that teams should have tried to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. After that game, I'm driving home Monday night, NFL game day final, yours truly Steve Weiss to the post game show. And we're talking about over and over again, what are the Raiders? They're three and five.

What are they? They get the Giants and Jets coming up at home. Those are both winnable games, by the way, even with Jimmy Garoppolo and with Josh McDaniels. And that's what I said Monday night. They get the New York, New York home games, not the hotel and casino, but the New York, New York back to back. If they win both of those games, which they could, regardless of coach and quarterback, they're five and five. They're kind of in the middle of it.

But the team that we saw Monday night, they're not good. So what do you do? Well, what Mark Davis did was fire everybody. I fell asleep Monday night around nine o'clock don't, I'm sorry, Tuesday night, nine o'clock, my phone starts ringing, ringing, ringing, ring, bzz, bzz, bzz, bzz at 10 o'clock.

I look at it. Oh boy. They got fired. Makes sense. Now, I initially thought they got fired because Josh McDaniels went to Mark Davis Tuesday morning and said, I am benching Jimmy Garoppolo.

And that may turn out to be the reason why. Because if you're Mark Davis, you say, then why am I paying him? You told me to write a huge check for Chandler Jones.

That was a disaster last year before anything happened off the field this year. You told me to write a huge check for Devante Adams and trade away my one and my two. He's great, but we're still not. I wrote a huge check to you. I wrote a huge check to you. And now after writing a huge check to Hunter Renfro that you can't even give away, we're three and five. And you want to bench this guy who isn't very good, at least not in this current setting, and I wrote him a huge check as well. And if you bench him now, it's Derek Carr all over again, meaning we're going to put you on bubble wrap on the bench to eat your birthday cake because we don't want you to get hurt. And then we're stuck with the bill next year on your contract if you're injured.

Why am I writing all these checks? We're going backwards. And that's why Mark Davis blew the whole thing up. He has not spoken on camera, but here's what he said to ESPN.com.

And he also spoke to The Athletic last night via phone. Unfortunately, I had great hopes. It just seemed we were going in the wrong direction. So with the trade deadline, I felt it was time to make a change, time to make a move. Now here's the biggest mistake Mark Davis made. He fired them after the trade deadline, six hours after the trade deadline. And we'll tell you it's because he spoke to players in the locker room.

I think he did before as well, but made that decision after speaking to players in locker room after speaking to the coach and to the GM and decided to blow it up. You should have done it first thing Tuesday morning and then told Champ Kelly, your new general manager, here are our walking orders. You can handle the trade deadline.

Do as you please, but just know we're turning this whole thing over. Again, why do you let your new coach and your new GM handle the trade deadline? It makes no sense because they handle the trade deadline with their interests in mind as well, right? Not saying they're selfish or misguided, but they're handling that deadline assuming that they're moving forward, running this ship, steering this ship, driving this car, whatever you want.

Do it before the trade deadline so that Champ Kelly or whomever you want making those decisions can aggressively try to unload assets. That's where Mark Davis messed up. It didn't make any sense. Then if you go back and you watch Josh McDaniel's press conference at roughly, it was right after the trade deadline. It was like 1.15 ish Pacific, 4.15 Eastern time. Remember they landed late Monday night game, you land late, right?

Everyone's in the office half asleep. So he came back in and somebody asked him, not, Hey, is Jimmy your quarterback? Cause there seemed to be some uncertainty on the post game podium Monday.

The question was, you mentioned Aidan O'Connell is seeing more of him this week, an option kind of a half arsed way of asking, are you benching Jimmy? Right. I'm going to pack in there. Yeah. Kind of it's like, well, honey, what, what do you kind of want to do tonight? Right.

One of those. And he said, guys, guys, like, like I haven't even talked to the players yet. I haven't talked to the player. Like, I mean, I don't want to talk about that. Like I haven't even talked to the team yet.

It's like, Whoa. He didn't say guys, Jimmy's my quarterback. He said guys, I haven't even talked to the team yet. And I texted someone immediately. He's benching him.

He is benching him. And then someone said, Hey, what about the trade deadline? And Josh goes, Hey, like I kept checking with Dave. Like we're past, we're past it. Right.

Like you're looking at the phone. We're past one. No, I think we're good. I don't think. Yeah.

I don't think we did anything, but like kind of laughing. You know, they were still very much in charge is my point at one o'clock, very much in charge. And you let them go through the trade deadline. You can't do that. Now a Raider fan may push back and go like, we're screwed either way.

What does it matter? But if you had made it known, and I know the contract is bad, you could have Jimmy Garoppolo right now. Cause we're benching him for Aiden O'Connell and we don't want to put him on the field because of the injury and the financial risk for next year. He's not going to, he's not going to play again.

Mark my words. Jimmy Garoppolo is done as a Raider. Fair or not. Good offensive line or not. Good play calling or not.

He's done as a Raider. You could have called Arthur Smith or Kevin O'Connell. Someone threw out last night to me.

I thought it was interesting. Call the Bucks. And I said, really? Because I think Jimmy is just handsome Baker.

Now he's gone to a Superbowl. I'd say he's better, but someone made the point, well, would you rather take Jimmy over Baker now? I said, I don't know. I said, okay, but you at least that have that $11 million option for him for next year. Like it's reasonable.

It's affordable. And if you don't want them next year, then flip them to somebody else. There'll be a market in the off season.

It's a tradable contract. I'm like, okay, fine. As I said before, if you are, if you are the Vikings, are you rolling with Josh Dobbs or Jimmy Garoppolo?

Exactly. Antonio Pierce. I like him a lot. I don't know if he has a shot to be the head coach, but like Rich Passaccio. A couple of years ago with far more NFL coaching experience, obviously, than the former giant linebacker. You never know.

Here's what he had to say. It's a new chapter. It's a new era. It's a new mindset. What is that mindset? It's that of the Raider pride, the commitment to excellence and making sure our alumni, our fan base and Raider nation are proud of what they see on the field.

What does that look like? Tough, passionate effort, energy, that enthusiasm that you see when we all watched our kids and these young men who are now pro athletes play with Aaron Pop Warner, having that love for the game. I'm sure there'll be questions about why, how, those all get answered, but this is about the players. This is about the Raiders and this is about this organization and we're tired of losing.

It's not a good feeling. We're a production based business. We're about competition, being competitive and play with an edge and a swag and a certain confidence that we walk out that damn tunnel that everybody watching TV can see it and a product on the field is something we're proud of.

Like Antonio Pierce, loved him as a player. Don't know if he's going to be a good head coach. Don't know. Got a first time play caller as well on the offensive side of things.

I have no idea. Although I did think we had the other one that this was cool. The short story, the matter of fact is I grew up in Compton, California. I was born a Raider. I was born with the Raiders rolling in a Coliseum in LA.

I was rolling with NWA talking straight out of Compton, rocking Raider hats. So when opportunity came to work with Josh and Pat Graham and Dave, I jumped on it. So that's what set me up for this.

I was born this way. That's awesome. I mean, that's really cool. I mean, how old is Antonio Pierce here? Is he, he's, he's a little bit younger than me, right? Antonio Pierce is 45. Like we're based in the same age, like same era. We're all kind of the same age. That's cool.

Yes. I was the suburban wet kid that listened to NWA. I was, and the original one too, before straight out of Compton, the NWA and the posse cassette.

Go back and find that one. A lot of the straight out of Compton stuff were just remixes. TJ, you know, this of the original cassette, see this guy, this guy, right? Well after your MC light thing, last time you were here, I'm not surprised by your hip hop knowledge at all. I mean, I'm the one who thinks that the DOC was better than Snoop. I'm just saying, well, the DOC had he not been in that car wreck.

That's what I'm getting to. Snoop's fantastic. Sorry.

Those me. Do you understand that the DOC is the one who helped Snoop come up with the way his rhyme, his rhyming style. Not a shot at Snoop.

I love Snoop and I hope he tweets Matt Canada stuff tonight because it'll make for better content. But shout out to the DOC. Yes. Right. No one knows the DOC. They need to. Google the DOC. Seriously? The doctor. His album, as good as, I mean, it's not as like the greatest album of all time, but the best forgotten hip hop album.

Real quick. I want to interrupt you back in junior high. We used to have to write poems for English class. I used to somehow I got a hold of the DOC cassette. I would take his rhymes and write them down like I was writing poems and I turned them in an English class and I was getting A's on my stuff. So no one knew the DOC.

So you just rip the DOC stuff off and handed it as your own. What grade was this? Well, I was in junior high and so far that's phenomenal. That poor man's rock him with only one album, one album, only one album. It was like one hit wonder album, but he did appear on some of the original NWA stuff. And that's how we tied it in together.

Anyway, where was I? I hope Antonio Pierce does well. Champ Kelly almost got that job ahead of Dave Ziegler, but then you, you put Dave Ziegler and Josh McDaniels to get there as a group, as a unit. And it didn't work.

Look, there are a lot of ways to go this. We can go down the long road of, it's another Belichick assistant who fails miserably, I guess if you want to go there, that's fine. I think what you should look at is this is one of the cases where Josh McDaniels might have matured as an individual and as a head coach and probably was better than he was last time in Denver, but last time in Denver still did happen.

And I know there's a lot of reaction out of Denver yesterday saying, we told you, we told you what a mess it was here. I don't fault Mark Davis for trying. Josh McDaniels is a charming likable dude. You ever, you ever met him, ever talked to him? Never had the pleasure.

Awesome dude, truly charming likable guy, really. But then you get behind closed doors and you hear other stories as well about this guy and then the coach guy, two different guys. And it didn't work out. I don't know that he's going to get another shot.

I think that ship has sailed. He'll be a great coordinator somewhere, but what has confounded, what's just dumbfounding is that he was never able to get that offense to work. Now last year, Josh Jacobs led the league in rushing yards from scrimmage, Devante Adams put together a great year. This year, it was awful and ugly to watch.

It really was. They're the only team of the NFL whose offense has yet to score 20 points in a game. That's wild. The only team. Wild.

And you want to take a step further? Just for comparison's sake, the fighting Gardner Minshoes and Anthony Richards, and he started four games, finished two of those four, have scored 20 points in every game this year. But Josh Jacobs, Devante Adams, and Jimmy Garoppolo, and Aiden O'Connell for that one, and Brian Hoyer for that one, have been unable to score 20 points offensively in any game. Shane Stikin is scheming it up and finding ways.

And Josh McDaniels is not, period. End of conversation. Coming up to create some separation between now and when Rich will join us at the top of the hour, we'll tell you the latest on Michigan, because it's getting even juicier. You're watching the Rich Eisen Show. My name is Dan half redneck, half posh, 100% fun, Drake Crowder and Corey Ryan Forrester, try and learn fancy culture in putting on airs. The host of the medium popcorn podcast, Brandon Collins and Justin Brown.

Okay. So Paddington too had like a hundred percent of ride tomatoes. You guys ruined that? Justin came in and like took it down like two points because of his rating.

Last time we started getting death threats, people worship that movie, putting on ears. The podcast is on YouTube and wherever you listen, the football season is underway and believe podcasts are talking about it. When he went home and went to sleep, Mike Parsons was terrorizing him.

Believe has podcasts covering all 32 professional teams and many of your favorite college teams too. And to be only producing 15 points a game. That's something that is definitely disheartening. Side light to sideline end zone to end zone as a quarterback. I would expect him to be acting like that. Take the accountability. Put that on yourself. Don't put it on your teammates search B L E A V podcasts, wherever you listen, Kevin Hart, why didn't security let you onto the Philadelphia Eagles podium after they won the Superbowl? Listen, listen, listen, listen, rich.

First of all, the haters, rich, that's the thing, the haters and they couldn't see me if they would have saw me, then they would have known who I was and I would have been right up there with the Philadelphia Eagles bringing in the good times and year because you know, it's a celebration, celebration time. And I say the next time I need you all to know who I am because I'm the biggest star on the freaking planet. Like it's me and a rock. That's it. This is me and a rock, rich. That's it.

Nobody else. Incredible. I'm about to sell out the solar system. Bam.

That's what I'm gonna do. And the rock says, I'm just playing good rock. The rock says, you see rich, rich eyes in the rock, the Brahma bull sitting here, you're talking about Kevin Hart.

Why did he get, why did he get escorted away from the Philadelphia Eagles? That's because he was drunk, rich, he was drunk, rich, the rock doesn't drink the rock. You know what the rock does? The rock has a juice. The rock has a cleanse because every day at 2 PM, I said 2 PM, the rock drops a deuce. That's what he does.

Another good one for you. I'd like to ask Jason Statham, what do you think about the NFL's new targeting rules to make the game safer? Let's see here. In the game of football, you have to be really, really rough and if you're rough, that's when you get a good show. Now, if you're not rough, then it's going to be a little pansy. So I think they shouldn't do it because I don't like pansies. I hate pansies. You know, pansies, people I beat up in my films, I beat them up all the time.

And you know what I do after I'm finished with them, I sit on top of their bodies and I have sex with me, girl. Again, that took a turn, that took a turn. All right, it is the Rich Eisen Show. Hi, my name is Andrew and I am sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk, which is as you know by now, but if you don't, you're about to find out because you need to know it is furnished by Grainger. With supplies and solutions for every industry, Grainger has the right product for you.

Call or click Grainger.com or just stop by. I know you guys have talked about the Michigan sign stealing Conner Stallions thing here a bit. I know Rich is a Michigan man. I'm not saying anything now or about to say anything now that I would not say if he were here. I'm not going to take unnecessary potshots at Michigan. I guess that is my disclaimer before I give you the latest news. I mean, you could try to get Pete Samuel. I could, but I won't. I'm not one of these anti-Michigan fail to the victors people.

I'm not one of those people. However, there is new news. I was trying to get Pete Samuel on front of the program today.

New news. Trying to get Pete Samuel on today, but he is on his way to Alabama. But here is his story on the ESPN.com today and I read from it. A vast majority of the Big Ten coaches expressed frustrations with the ongoing signal stealing investigation in Michigan in a video call, how many cameras were actually turned on, with commissioner Tony Petitti Wednesday sources say to ESPN. The call, I'm going to paraphrase here, was a 90 minute call, 30 minutes with Jim Harbaugh where they did the normal Big Ten business that you would do the coaches on a conference call with the commissioner. And then Harbaugh got off the call so that they could talk about Michigan freely.

According to five sources familiar with the call, according to Pete Samuel, a chorus of voices encouraged Petitti to take action. The call described as intense and emotional, quote, collectively, the coaches won the Big Ten to act right now. What are we waiting on?

Somebody said, we know what happened. The Big Ten has a call scheduled with the athletic directors for today. The NCAA has been investigating, you know, the Connor Stallions thing, stealing signals, whatever, more and more stuff is coming out. The coaches, Samuel says, laid out to Petitti, who was hired in April, just how distinct of a schematic advantage Michigan has held the last three years by illegally obtaining the opposition signals ahead of time, as has been alleged. Coaches use the words like tainted, fraudulent, and unprecedented to describe Michigan's signal stealing scheme on this call. Much of the call, according to sources, was coaches explaining to Petitti both how it worked and how it impacted them and their programs. As you may or may not know, both in-person opponent scouting and using electronic equipment to steal signals is not allowed by the NCAA. According to one source to Thamble, people don't understand the seriousness of it, how it truly impacted the game plan.

To truly know if it's run or pass, people just don't get how much of an advantage that was for Michigan. One coach on the call, I take it back, let me read this the right way. There was anger interspersed throughout the call, according to Thamble, as one source described the sentiment as, quote, every game they play is tainted.

Sources describe Petitti as listening carefully to the coaches but not tipping his hand in what direction he may go. Sources express curiosity as to whether or not the Big Ten is truly interested in taking action or just listening so coaches feel that they are being heard. I don't think the Big Ten understood how upset everyone was, said another source. The tenor of the call was asking the Big Ten to show leadership. The conference and the presidents, unprecedented violation, they say. Now, the Reddit detectives, the Twitter detectives- These guys are amazing, whoever they are. Incredible.

I also know as a reporter here and as somebody who deals in breaking news quite often, when you're on the air and you're dealing with Twitter or you're dealing with people texting you things that they saw, so much of it turns out to be wrong. That said, there seems to be evidence now that a younger-looking, clean-shaven Connor Stallions was on the Michigan sideline as early as 2018, standing behind Jim Harbaugh and coordinators. He wasn't hired until 2021 or two, whatever it was, recently. He was in our armed services stationed in California and has said on his LinkedIn page that he would fly back and forth on his own dime.

Okay. But there he is on the sidelines in 2018. Now, is it plausible that he might've been the really sharp kid who, hey, I like this kid. Let's bring him in.

You know what? He's got a good eye for things. There's nothing wrong with that, guys.

And I'm going to defend Connor Stallions here. There is nothing wrong for having someone on your sideline that's really good at looking across the field and picking up on stuff. Every team has that. Every team has that really sharp kid in the building who's able to look at tape and figure stuff out, right?

These games are all on TV. Every team has that. There's always that guy. The coaching intern, the analytics intern, the equipment kid who's really good at that. Hey, you know what?

Let's make sure he's down there. You see something? Okay. There is nothing wrong with that at all.

Nothing. Every team does it. Every team's got an edge.

You know what? And a lot of teams have edges that they don't even know, or tails rather, right? You watch a game and we're fortunate enough to do this with former players. They sit there going, hey, that tackle's back in his stance. It's a pass, right? He's up in his stance. It's a run, right?

I could see, by the way, that wide receiver is lined up, what this is going to be, right? We're lucky. We're right with former players. They call stuff out all day long. That's why Tony Romo's Tony Romo. All day long. Exactly.

Tony. And it's a blast. And we're lucky to have that window, by the way. Cool. It's awesome. One of the best parts about my job, hands down. That's one thing.

It's another thing to have this guy fly all over the country and tape stuff and come back and do it illegally. That is cheating. Period. End of conversation. And don't come at me, Michigan fan, by saying, you guys are just bitter. All the coaches are bitter. It's more than that. Oh, yeah. Maybe they just don't like Harbaugh, right? Maybe some of it's karma. Come around.

You don't like the way you get treated? All right. We're going to come back at you.

But I already got stuff on Twitter. Pete Thamel, Ohio State hack. No, he's not, dude. He went to Syracuse. Went to Syracuse. Sure did. All right.

People in the comments know everything. Bleeds orange. Okay.

Not scarlet and gray, buddy. I think Pete was a senior when I was a freshman. Yeah, I didn't overlap with him. I didn't overlap with you.

Yeah, you didn't overlap with me either. Or maybe did Pete and I overlap for one year? Maybe.

Maybe one year. Either way, Pete's in his 40s, and he went to Syracuse. Yes.

Yep. Not Michigan. Not Ohio State. So listen, I do think this is something here, and I want to tie it into the Raiders as well, because I know people are already saying, Jim Harbaugh's going to be the next head coach of the Raiders. I think he'd be a great head coach of the Raiders, by the way.

Sign stealing or not. He's a good coach. Period.

Final. I mean, he's a good coach. Everywhere he goes, he wins. You got to try to tell me that at San Diego, he had a 15-year-old Connor Stallion stealing signals for him.

He didn't. I think that would be incredible. That would be incredible.

Some of that came out. Right. What if it turns out Connor's his godson?

Right. He's been bringing him up all this time. Some baby-faced Connor Stallions running up and down in USD gear. Like he was at San Francisco, he was at Stanford. Connor Stallions was a ball boy for the Colts, baby. Jim Harbaugh's a hell of a coach, and he'll be a hell of a coach wherever he goes. I don't think it's Michigan next year, and the question is, if he goes to the NFL, will, as our friends at NFL Network, our insiders reported a couple of Sundays ago, the league disciplined him. There is the Trell Pryor precedent, but at the same time, Antonio Pierce is right in the middle of the NCAA scandal at ASU.

But he was hired at one in the morning, so the Raiders got away with it. For decades, Rolling Stone has set the bar for entertainment publications. Today, Rolling Stone Music Now takes over in podcast form. We have Michael Azerrad, who was Nirvana's very first biographer. I'm not sure how many people realize how many of the best songs on Inutero were written way beforehand. To be fair to Kurt, he was also a new father. There was a lot of stuff distracting him. It wasn't just drugs, although that was certainly a major factor. Rolling Stone Music Now, wherever you listen.