REShow: Martin Jarmond - Hour 3

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Our number three of The Rich Eisen Show on the air right here on the Roku channel. If you missed any of the first two hours, Vic Tafer of The Athletic, who covers the Raiders, talking about what is happening between the team and Josh Jacobs and when he might come in from the cold and what is happening with the team. And Devante Adams and why he's felt somewhat of a... He's been a little bit cold on the Raiders on occasion.

What's going on there? And then our number one Tyler Lockett of the Seahawks. We re-air as soon as this hour is over on channel 210. We do that all the time and then we'll re-air throughout the weekend.

Then we're back on Monday. Martin Jarman, the athletic director of UCLA, will be in studio shortly. And I'll just ask him point blank, well, why'd you destroy the Pac-12 personal?

Personally? You're putting it all on him? No, I'm just kidding. There's seven other schools that have bolted. So, at any rate, there's obviously lots to talk about with the athletic director of UCLA. He'll be here shortly. And to make sure that you, Chris, are focused, you, TJ, are focused.

And this is somewhat your main. We can do this live on the air right now. You are currently on the clock in the best ball fantasy league that Joe Lattrulio, our Monday guest in studio, is the commissioner of. We just made our pick. Oh, hold on a minute. You had a choice. We just made our pick. Paul Rudd is now on the clock. Okay.

Again, he's in Romania, so that might take a while. I understand. I understand.

Would you like to announce who you are? You already had Bijan Robinson, you had Nick Chubb, you had Bijan Robinson, Nick Chubb and Deebo Samuel. And you had a choice of the top players currently available.

Breece Hall, Kenneth Walker, Amari Cooper, Aaron Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, TJ Hawkinson. You chose? Justin Fields. Oh.

Okay. We're all in on that train. We like what he could do with his arm and his legs. Gotta have a top flight quarterback in this league in Fields. What he does with his feet, he has guaranteed us.

He texted me personally in the break. Guaranteed 4,000 yards passing. Oh, God.

Fields could go for 5,000 total yards, 40 touchdowns. I'm a believer. I can feel it. We swapped information at the Super Bowl, so Justin's now going to keep us direct. Oh, how about that? Yeah, he's keeping intact. We didn't.

Okay. And I just want to root for the kid. He is one to root for.

He is definitely one of that. So you think Justin Fields is going to have a big year, do you? I can feel it. I don't know.

Fantasy, eh? We'll see. Also, there's kind of a run on star quarterbacks in this league.

Joe Burrow went just ahead of us. Okay. Let's take a couple phone calls, and then we'll get to what's more likely in advance of the huge weekend of preseason football. Big Jose and San Jose, California. You're on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Big Jose? Hey, guys. Greetings from Silicon Valley and San Jose, California. I want to let you guys know that I'm a big fan of the show.

Thank you. I stopped listening to the local media. I listened to you guys. I listened to my Raider broadcast on their Raider app. And I just wanted to say that I appreciate you, Rich, saying that there's a there there with the Raiders.

I think there is as well. And I don't see us being 0-4. I mean, first of all, we don't lose to the Broncos.

Go back three years. We don't lose to the Broncos. And we usually do pretty well against the Steelers. Last year, well, you know, different quarterback, different situation.

It's indoors, different weather, right? And all due respect to Vic Taper, who I love and follow as well. Follow you, Rich, on Twitter.

Peters, Epps, Shelley, Hopson. I wouldn't follow up much that nobody's on the back end, especially with a much-improved defensive four. And by the way, Rich, I'm getting a new hip in October. Love what you do for the run, Rich, run. And I wouldn't mind flying down to L.A. and racing you once I get my new hip done next year.

OK, very good, because I run like my hip's been replaced as well. So I'll welcome that. I'll welcome that.

Thanks for the call, Big Jose in San Jose. Yeah, I mean, 0-4 would be a total complete disaster. They have to win that game against Pittsburgh at home. That's their one home game in the first four weeks.

You must win that. Let me look that up. The Raiders have won in Denver?

Have they? You want to look that one up, Chris? Can you do that for me?

I don't know why the tone was there. Because you're one of the slowest Googlers on the planet, man. I bet you I can find it faster than you. I get you, I can find that faster than you. They won in Denver? Yeah, I can find it faster than you.

They won in overtime last year in Denver, so I beat you there. I got it right here. I got it.

I'm going to get this. Just Derek Carver. Last year they won in Denver. Here we go. Two years ago they won in Denver.

How about that? Back in 2020, they won in Denver. They last lost in Denver in 2019.

There you go. Then they lost in game in Denver in 2018. And then they lost in 2017. And then they lost in 2016. And then we start talking about Peyton Manning years. Three in a row, though. Back in 1963, though.

When Al Davis got his first overhead projector. Al and Dallas, you're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Al? You telling me that Del Tufo is quicker than Brockman in Googling?

No! Yes, he is, because Del Tufo's got a head start. He's already on Google. He's not listening. He's got a running head start. Yeah, he does.

He just has to X out the Doug the Pug screen that he's got going. I know. What's up, Al? What's on your mind?

Hey, look, you know, I just did a quick review. I mean, I don't want to be cocky, but Giants could go 11-7. Do you want to do it? Do you want to do the win-loss game, Al? Yeah, I mean, I could.

Don't make me twist your arm, Al. Just come out and say I want to do the win-loss game. I want to do the win-loss game. Here we go. Here we go.

Give me NFL films music. We're going to go again. Let's see how different it is from Mike in North Carolina. All right.

Al's probably like, who's Mike in North Carolina? I got my own graphic. Here we go. All right, Al. Home for the Dallas Cowboys.

What do you got? Uh, 1-0. All right. That's a win. Come on, Al. At the Arizona Cardinals? 2-0. At the Niners? 2-1-1. Home for the Seahawks?

2-2. Oh, OK. You're different from Mike in North Carolina now. At the Dolphins? Oh, wait a minute.

Excuse me. Home for the Seahawks? 3-1. Just say win-loss. That'll be easier.

I'll do the math. Al, at the Dolphins? That's a win. That's a 4-1.

At the Bills? The loss. That's 4-2. Home for the Commanders? It's a win.

Everybody thinks the Commanders are a win. Jake Tapper just started laughing when I said that to you. He did this for the Eagles. All right. Home for the Jets. What do you got for me, Al? That's a win. Oh, come on.

All right. At the Vegas Raiders? That's definitely a win. The lock of the year. The lock of the year.

That's rude. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-2 at the Dallas Cowboys? That's a loss. 7-3 at the Commanders? It's a win. 8-3. Home for the Patriots? Loss. I mean, that's OK. That's a win. 9-3 coming out of the buy.

Home for the Packers? That's a win. 10-3 at the Saints? See, that's where it gets tricky. So, that's going to be a loss.

That's understandable. 10-4 at the Eagles on a Monday night? I'm going to say a loss. 10-5. Home for the Rams? That's a win. 11-5.

And then home for the Eagles? That's a little... I'll give it a loss. All right. So, you're 11-6.

You took different routes than Mike in North Carolina, but you wound up in the same destination. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know... OK. I mean, listen, this is a give-or-take league, right?

You know, one bounce of the ball, whatever. But, like, I don't see the schedule being brutal. I got it. I don't like the last two games, two of the last three being against the Eagles. I think that's Bush.

Well, you shouldn't like the Jets either. But we'll talk about that another day. Thanks for the call, brother. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. That's Allen Dallas.

It's a Friday. It's time for Chris Brockman to have his say before Martin Charman, the athletic director of UCLA, comes out here on the Rich Eisen Show. It is time for What's More Likely. What? What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. Thank you very much, Christopher. What's got you up more than likeling right now? Hey.

What's up, guys? All right. We mentioned this earlier in the week. I made a note. I saved it.

I brought it back. It's first up. Who's more likely to reach their championship game this year? The Georgia Eagles or the Georgia Bulldogs?

I'm going to go the Georgia Eagles. Oh. Yeah. Because one team is bringing back their MVP quarterback, who damn near was the MVP of the Super Bowl, as well as almost the MVP of the league, and the other one's breaking in a new quarterback. And they got to take on a team that's got a Georgia period getting ready for them in their practices.

Can we talk about how weird that is? So I'll go the Georgia Eagles. Yeah. New quarterback, new time.

Stetson Bennett's getting sacked by C.J. Okoye. He's not there. He's not walking through that door. He's not walking through that door. If he did, it'd be over 30.

Yes, he would. So I'll go there. I'll go there. I kind of agree with you. NFC North quarterback more likely to be a sleeper MVP candidate. Jared Goff or Kirk Cousins?

Jared Goff, baby. Cousins is no sleeper. Cousins had MVP talk middle of the season last year.

What are you talking about? Middle of the season last year, people were going high. He was the higher register MVP. You bet he was. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Middle of the season last year, right around before the Cowboys came and curb stomped him 40 to three. He didn't get any MVP votes last year. I know that for good reason, because he didn't finish very strong. Tua barely played and got MVP votes. I'm aware of that.

No, he played 13 games. I'm aware of that. All right.

Jared Goff, man. I'm worried about the Lions. You are. I know you are. I don't think you should be.

I'm worried about that. The bandwagon's too full. OK. Running back, more likely in a new home, running back in their new home, more likely to score more touchdowns this year. Dalvin Cook or Zeke? I'll go Zeke. You know, and I think that's why Andre Stevenson is currently still sitting available in our fantasy draft that takes forever to drop.

I have no idea. Don't you think five yard line and finally went that Zeke territory, don't you think? Yeah, I think Zeke is going to get all the carries inside. And again, and the knee injuries also has a large thing to do. Why, Breeze Hall is available to be chosen in a fantasy draft right now. You know, I mean, I have no idea how the division of labor for both of these new running backs and their new teams is going to be divvied up. But one would think, despite Ramondre Stevenson being a Rich Eisen show favorite, thanks to you, T.J. Jefferson, and also showing what he can do. Don't you think Bill thinks inside the five is Zeke territory?

I do. I think so. Zeke is getting first team rep carries in practice. Oh, yeah.

The last couple of days, according to reports. So I think they're high on Zeke. But you can never tell with the with the no, you know, you never. But if I had to guess, you know, I'll go with Zeke just because that is his forte is to jam it in there from from the 10 yard line in. But with the Patriots, you never know. Once upon a time, that was Rex Burkhead territory. What else, Chris? Good, good player.

All right. They're playing each other this weekend in the second preseason week. More likely to make a deeper playoff run this year. Lions or Jaguars? I'll go Lions just because and I think so many of us in the media are using this as a cop out when you're talking about an NFC team. Of course, the NFC team has a better chance because the AFC is so loaded. But the Jaguars could get could get up a very high seed and go on a nice run with two home playoff wins.

They could. I'll still go the Lions. I'm on that bandwagon firmly. By the way, I was on that in March.

I chose them as my March predicting team. I'm going to do that every year until I'm right. Until I'm right.

I certainly wasn't last year. That's OK. Or I'm either going to go. It happens. Excuse me. I'm going to go until I'm right or I'm not very, very wrong. Which way to put it?

What's more likely? I'm right or not very, very wrong. Were you very, very wrong with the Raiders? Yes. Yes. Oh, that's why I'll keep going until I'm not very, very wrong. I'm not saying the Lions are going to be right. I see. I think they'll just prove me to be not very, very wrong. Yeah.

Where where they might not win the division, but it's not going to be apparent by like friggin Russia. Shauna. What day is that? It's usually in September.

We talked to both of these guys. I don't know anything else like back to school. What else could I have said?

That's August. You stayed on brand. Thank you.

It's a good way for you to say Jewish. Stayed on brand. That's very funny. More likely to have the biggest sophomore season breakout. Yes. Two guys we've talked to recently.

George Pickens or James Cook. Oh, you know where I'm going here. Steelers play the Bills this week. You know where I'm going. You know where I'm going. You know where I'm going.

To the four one two. I'm going George Pickens. Let's go. I think he's my new man crush. We're not going to go to the movies, George.

Don't worry. It's kind of I kind of I kind of like George Pickens getting ready because I don't know what the running back is going to look like in Buffalo. But I know what a game changing wide receiver can look like in Pittsburgh. So I'm gonna go George Pickens. Let's go. George Pickens trying to do the routine things routinely because that's what his coach tells him. Here we go. He has too much talent. He just needs to work on the fundamentals. That is it.

James Cook, I have no idea. Is it Josh Allen just going to be, you know what? Omaha. I got this. It's possible.

I have no idea. It's possible. And plus, they also have Latavious Murray. They also have Damien Harris. And I know they've got Deontay Johnson and they got Najee Harris. I know that there's other weapons in Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Booth. They're not saying boo. They're saying boo.

What else? These two teams playing the preseason this weekend, more likely to win their division. Seahawks or Cowboys.

Do the right thing. I'm going to I'm going to say the Cowboys. OK. Oh, I like your staff.

I'll say the Cowboys. We just talked to Taro Locket. I understand that. You told him to tell Jackson he's your dear. His daddy.

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It's just from dad. Oh, you, you, you can take the leap and say, you know, you should call me daddy. New podcast coming to the rich eyes. It's already taken. I'll go down. I'll go down.

Dallas Eagles take a step back, even though I started saying it's more likely that the Georgia Eagles make it. Yeah, I'll go there. It's time, TJ, TJ. It's time. Yeah, I've been saying that.

No, no. It's time for the Dallas Cowboys to win. There is lower expectations exceed them. I agree, because it's always been high expectations last year. There's still high expectations.

I understand that, but not. I think everyone believes the Eagles are the team that's going to win that division. I bet you when you take a look in the aggregators aggregate everybody's predictions to win divisions. The Eagles will be on nine tenths of the NFC's predictors. Well, the Eagles have the second best Super Bowl. But after you get rid of the usual suspects of late, Dallas is sixth ahead of the Jets. So ahead of the Ravens, that's it's time. The expectations for the Cowboys are lower. Yeah, which I like. I want to hear about. It's time for that to be exceeded.

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Appreciate it. Bruce Arians chime in a young quarterback, most likely to keep their job for the whole season. OK, Sam Howell or Desmond Ritter. Oh, great one, Chris.

This is a really, really good one. Yeah, it's tough coin flip. I'm not sure because I can't say both. I think they're going to stick with both.

I really do. What are the what are the Eagles? I mean, the Falcons.

Sorry, I mixed up my birds. Well, the Falcons are just going to say, let's see what what Heinecky can do. Heinecky is a known man.

So is Jacoby Brissette. I'll go I'll go I'll go Ritter. I think Ritter is more likely to keep his job for the whole season. He's got more experience in the system. Arthur Smith is the guy who's brought the system. And plus, who knows how Sam Howell will be able to take the very, very mean words from Eric Bienvene. Ritter might get benched just for laughing at Arthur's mustache, as we determined yesterday with Will Compton and his story about Arthur Smith offering him a job only for the NFL to prevent him from taking it in a timely fashion. I think that mustache is in protest. That's the one right there. Putting the banana in the NFC South tailpipe.

Arthur Smith. All right. Last one, your license and registration. Last one, more likely messy goals in the League Cup final. Yes. Or whatever it is, I don't care what else you got. Otani home runs this weekend. Yeah. Home weekend for the weekend. Home again. Home against the race. One home against the race.

Great one. Messy goals, Otani dingers. I wonder what's the favorite cat food of Argentina. Let's see if they put that up. They put that up on the board like the Angels do for Japan's number one catcher. Is he a sponsor? I don't think he needs a sponsor. There it is right there.

So there's three very hungry cats on that screen right there. My sponsor's below. All right. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

Oh, I'm gonna go. Otani home runs. You thought I'd go messy goals, didn't you? I mean, I got to figure Messi's going to score twice, right? At least one.

Or why can't Otani go yard three times? It starts tonight, though, right? It's a three game. I got three games to one. You got three games. I got three games to two. Three games for Otani.

You got one for Messi. Do penalty kicks count? It counts. It counts. Well, it's only one. You can only get one of them. Right.

But he might also score during the game, during the match. So that's two. No, I saw Otani. I see what he can do in front of the cat treat sign. He's home, right? In front of the cat treat sign? They're home.

They're home for Tampa. Oh, that seals it. Kind of a big series. That seals it. All right. Very well done.

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Call click Grainger dot com or just simply stop by. He has been the athletic director at UCLA since 2020 after spending some time at Boston College as the AD there. And then two other schools, Ohio State and Michigan State. He is UCLA's Martin German back here in the Rich Eisen Show. How are you, Martin? I'm good, brother.

How you doing? So you got your good parts from Boston College, right? Like that. Like when you make great decisions for UCLA, like it's a Boston College place.

And the other ones were second when you're second guessing yourself and you're wondering, why would I think that? That's that's from your experience at Michigan State in Ohio State. That's that's from my dad. The good stuff from my mom.

The bad, the bad decisions. Very good. Very good.

I love that. How are you doing? I'm doing good. How are you doing?

I'm doing fine. I'm doing. So let me just jump directly right in. Jump directly in.

Jump directly right in. You're seeing what the Pac-12 is going through right now. What do you think of it, Martin, when you see this? I have a lot of thoughts about that. I don't know if we have enough time.

What are you what are you willing to share with us here? I just think that, you know, first and foremost, you never want to see people in a challenge situation like like some of my colleagues are now. You know, it's been a great conference and, you know, that's unfortunate. And at the same time, college athletics is changing so much. And I think that's part of that change. And when you see consolidation, you see some of the things that are trending. You know, it's just unfortunate that I think that over a number of years has led us to this point.

Right. And so why did based on what you're seeing, other schools have now followed suit. Obviously, your UCLA and USC made the move last summer.

And you've been kind enough to come on the show after that just to relive it, seeing what's happening right now. Why did UCLA make the move that it made to the Big Ten? It's about where college athletics is going. You know, you want to be in a conference that has significant reach. You want to be in a conference that has resources and you want to put your student athletes in a position to be successful.

And to do that, you've got to, you've got to, you know, you've got to be with other big brands that are doing great things. And that's what the Big Ten is. And so from my standpoint, you know, UCLA is all about championships and the student athlete experience. We have the second most national championships in the country.

One hundred twenty one, which, by the way, we won two last year. And and congratulations. Thank you, sir.

Appreciate that. And and so when you come to UCLA, you come to get a high level of athletic competition and the number one public institution in the country, academic. So you want to be in that environment where you want to compete against the best, play against the best. You know, by the way, your brand and your platform in a national level of exposure that you get from a conference like the Big Ten is significant.

We're in the NIL world also, which is great. But all of those factors contributed to us saying, look, how can we best position our athletic program to be one of strength? And you see, as you've seen in the past year, a lot of people are looking at their program and looking at the future and saying, hey, where do we want to be?

What makes sense? A lot of people want to be with the Big Ten. And there's a reason for that, because that conference has great institutions, high academic, high athletic. And from a demand standpoint, people want to see good on good. They want to see great competition.

And that's what consumers want. And that's why you're seeing what you're seeing. So I've got Martin Jarman, the UCLA athletic director here in studio. So, again, what you're willing to share and have a conversation here in front of everybody. What wound up being the vote of no confidence ultimately in the Pac-12? So this past year, we haven't I haven't been in the room. You know, you've been out.

I mean, I've been out ever since we. But obviously, if UCLA and USC had not made the move that it made last year, do you think the Pac-12 would be in the current state that it's in right now? I don't know. That's that's a tough one, because I'm not in a room when decisions are made. I think I think in leadership roles, you know, you don't you don't know the shoes that people walk in.

You don't know what kind of decisions or what the process is. Yes. So it's just stuff that we read. And you can't believe everything you read or hear. What I do know is I think over a course of years, there are moments where you can make strategic decisions and you can go this way.

You can go that way. And you've got to get more of them right than wrong. And I think in the Pac-12 situation, there were some market things that occurred, but also some decisions that could have been made that just didn't go their way.

Prior to your tenure and arriving on campus at Westwood? I think it's a number of years, right? Something just doesn't happen overnight. Right. But but and some things are out of your control, too. Let me say that.

You know, you just you just don't know. But the one thing I do know in leadership roles, you've got to be in tune with two things. You've got to be in tune with the people you serve. How are people feeling about things?

Where are you at? And then you also got to be in tune with the marketplace. You know, what's going on in the market? Where is it going? And and that's those are two significant things that any leader has to do.

And I think that, you know, this it's just been a challenging environment for for the conference. All right. One more on the past.

And then I want to talk about, you know, what happens from here best. Everyone's trying to figure this out. Yeah. Right. So the fact that it it's possible because it sure looks like the pack 12, 10, eight, whatever you want to call it from its history is dissolving. It's or it's devolving right now is changing. It's changing.

Could be evolving or it could be or could be disappearing. And so and when you take a look at the records from the history of this conference. Yeah. It's your school that kind of leads with all due respect to USC and basketball from UCLA basketball. Jackie Robinson, for crying out loud, went to UCLA.

Arthur Ashe. We could keep going on. Like we could.

What happens to these records? I mean, has there been some sort of conversation? Obviously, they're always going to be UCLA. But you can't talk about them in terms of Big Ten records, right?

Like what what happens? Yeah. You know, we always will keep that and cherish that at UCLA. Right.

And obviously from a conference perspective, though, I don't know. You know, that's one of those. I've never seen this.

You know, you're we're seeing this live happen. Right. And we haven't been UCLA, haven't been in the conversations or meetings with the PAC 12. So so I don't know.

I don't know the answer to that. What I do know is you can't take what has been accomplished away. And we've had great Bruins that have done significant things, not only in the college athletic space, but go on in the world. And that doesn't change this because of a conference shifts or changes this membership. That's always a part of the college athletics and part of UCLA or whatever school that you're representing.

Martin Jarman of UCLA Athletics, the AD right here on The Rich Eisen Show. So now that Oregon and Washington are part of the Big Ten, which just blows my mind, it really does. You know, like Northwestern and the Big Ten, there's now two schools from the actual Northwest. Well, it's like last year when we were here, you know, we were talking about us, you know. I was asking if you're getting cold weather gear ready and stuff like that. So so how again, the first blush thoughts and conversations, is there going to be like a Western division of the Big Ten?

Certainly for your travel issues, potentially. Yeah. Is it is there going to be something like that? I don't I don't know.

We don't know. We're still having meetings now because, you know, everything happened so fast. We literally had the football schedule done for twenty four and twenty five. And now that's going to change because Oregon and Washington coming in. And by the way, I think it's great that Oregon and Washington coming in, you know, to have a better West Coast presence. And that allows all of our sports to continue to play Washington and Oregon, two great brands.

And and they compete at the highest level. I think that helps us on the West Coast, quite frankly. So I think it's good we still have to figure that out with the scheduling piece and how the Big Ten is going to look at.

You know, they'll probably utilize some travel partners. That's something we've talked about. The Big Ten hasn't done that usually before Pac-12 has. I think you can see that more happening with some of our sports. But we should be hopefully we'll get some some clarity on on football schedule and those kind of things next couple of weeks. So the football schedule that came out and I'm sitting here wondering, you know, when Michigan's coming out, we're going to the big house.

You're going to come get on the team playing. So when you're saying that. So that's now null and void. It's going to change. We just don't know yet how because Oregon and Washington are coming in now. But you don't know how it's going to change.

We don't know how it's going to change. Yeah. So part of it might be still intact or all of it might still be intact. How about this?

What parts do you want to be intact? So we were playing at Michigan. You want your alma mater to come to the Rose Bowl now? You want me to ask? I can I can ask Tony. I don't want to get on a plane. Tony, I'll ask Tony to.

I don't want to get on a plane. By the way, he was the first. He's great, by the way. Tony Petitti has been phenomenal. He's he's excellent. He hired me in 2003. As soon as I left ESPN, he was the second call I got.

No way. He had to hire me at CBS. So I've known Tony forever. Wow. So you didn't blow up his career. He's clear.

That's correct. As a matter of fact, I would say he's clearly a smart man. He is. He is on it, man.

He's a wise man. And obviously you need to have somebody who's well versed in the television world. Since that money does appear to be driving a lot of the decisions that you and the school presidents are making right now. It's important. All your all your partnerships are important. Your media partners, donors, sponsors. It all supports the resources to give student athletes the best experience we can and compete at a high level.

What about the, if you will, non-major revenue sports? Are you going to have UCLA teams travel all the way to Piscataway in Maryland? And like, what's going to happen?

How is this going to work? Because it sounds like a professional sports league. I'll be straight up with you here. So we're going to we don't have any of the schedules yet. Final ash in the Big Ten.

But from any sport, for any sport. Right. We're working through that. But but a couple of the things that we talked through during the process of UCLA and USC joining were principles that we both share to make it a better situation from a travel standpoint.

Yes. So so, for example, men's soccer last year took four away trips there. Most of our teams are going to do the same amount of the way trips or one less in some instances. So if they had four away trips last year in their first year in Big Ten competition, they're going to have four, maybe even three. Now, the distances are longer. And that's where we got to come in to try to mitigate that.

What can we do to shorten that time on the road? But but from a travel trip standpoint, if you're taking four trips a year and now you're going to take four or three, that's the same. Right. And now with Oregon and Washington, you know, does that impact one less trip to the East Coast? You know, those are all things that we got to talk, talk about and talk through. And then, by the way, you know, we haven't had situations in college athletics many times where you have multi-team events. Sometimes in the preseason, you'll have them like softball, baseball. We'll have a tournament where it's a lot of teams.

You're going to probably see more of that, not just in the Big Ten, but I think in college athletics, where you have multi-team events, same place and you knock a couple of games out. Yeah. So you're going to do some of that stuff. Like like like everybody meets, say, in Indianapolis or something like that? Yeah. There are a couple of cities you can do.

You can everybody meet in L.A. or Arizona or Chicago. Obviously. Yeah. And especially talking about the Big Ten, when it's when the weather is a little more challenging in some of the outdoor sports, I can see that now being a West Coast presence. Come on out here. Come on out here.

Why not? What about the Rose Bowl being an actual Big Ten championship game? Oh, that would be cool. Well, I mean. That would be cool. And, you know, a Western division.

You know, Tony, you should you should push that. I mean. Well, no, I might have lost my reservations in Indianapolis for the combine, but but that's what I'm sitting here thinking is I'm obviously thinking Big Ten teams, certainly for basketball, a West Coast swing. Yeah.

Washington and Oregon and then both teams here in Los Angeles. And I'm wondering if there is a possibility you point out there's no real maybe East Coast swing since everybody is from the Midwest east outside of the four schools I just mentioned. Yeah. That you do meet in a spot like Chicago or Indianapolis or something that's more centrally located than, say, the eastern seaboard. These are things that are still all being discussed is what you're saying.

Absolutely. I mean, if you look at the Big Ten, I know they've moved their basketball tournament around. I believe the men's basketball tournament is going to be in Minneapolis, I think this year. I don't know how many times it's been in Minneapolis. So, you know, you've seen the championship game move around, the basketball tournament move around.

So I would anticipate that that'll be a conversation at some point. But it's exciting. I mean, it's going to be future opponents that we haven't played a lot. But when we have played against Big Ten competitions, we've been successful.

And again, I know you're an athletic director at a member school, and I'm potentially asking a school president, if not Commissioner Petitti, question. But what about Stanford and a fellow UC school in Berkeley right now? They're kind of sitting out there, right there in a major market of the United States of America. Is there a conversation about Big 20? Is there making this the Big 20?

That's a question for Tony. But what I can tell you is both of those are phenomenal institutions. And I'm hoping that they land in a great spot. We want to continue at UCLA. We want to keep playing them. I've told both Stanford and Cal that we want to continue that competition. Even if they're out of conference?

Right. Even if they're out of conference. That's something that's important to us.

We have a great history with Cal and with Stanford and obviously a stronger connection with Cal. So that's really important. So they've got to figure that out. You know, they're working through that. I know in the realignment space that takes up a lot of time and energy and effort. And it's a lot of phone calls. And it's a lot of strategy. So I know they're in it right now.

I just hope that they land in a good spot. Well, those are my questions on my plate. What's on your plate right now as you're getting set for another football playing season, obviously?

Football, man. Yeah, it's an exciting time. DZR just played a heck of a game last time.

How about that? He's been playing really well in the preseason. He's been playing really well. I watched some of that game against Philadelphia, I think, yesterday, right? Yes, on NFL Network. I appreciate your... On NFL Network.

This is not my only home, but yes. Yeah. He was making some phenomenal plays in Bruins. We've seen that for years. Chip Kelly made the comment that we'll have a new starting quarterback for the first time since George H.W. Bush, you know, because DZR was there for so long, man.

DZR has been a while. But he's phenomenal. Charbonnet looks pretty sharp up there in Seattle. Charbonnet is great. Jake Bobo, I saw him make a couple plays.

Okay. He's got a lot of guys. He's got 11 or 12 guys that are playing well in camps right now. So, a lot of talent.

A lot of talent, man. This is going to be the last UCLA-USC game that's not a Big Ten... It's going to be weird.

I'm sorry. That's a Big Ten game. The game will still be the same. The passion will still be the same.

I want to know that. The game will be the same, man. I know.

It'll just have a different patch right there. That's it. I got it. I hear you. So, when are we going to get the scheduling?

When are we going to get... I know this just happened. I understand it. You want it right now. Yeah, I do.

I do. I want to know. It can't just be an 18-team mosh pit and the top two teams make the Big Ten championship game.

It can't be that. I don't know. We haven't had a meeting yet since Oregon and Washington.

We're going to have one, I think, next week. So, we'll start talking about these things. Do you want me on the Zoom to make some suggestions?

No. I might try to see if we can get you plugged in. Maybe not on the Zoom, but... No, I could start.

Maybe I could leave the meeting and call you and get your input. No, I should start the Zoom. I'll leave. You know, I'll leave. You can kick me out of the Zoom. Rich will excuse you from the Zoom. You need a Big Ten guy to just kick it all off.

A West Coast living Big Ten guy to kick it all off. Just let everyone know. Yeah. Yeah. We got to do something special when we play Michigan.

I'll put Gene Smith on mute. Is that wrong? I mean, you know. I mean, rivalry is a rivalry. I understand. You know.

Well, we put him on mute the last two Novembers. Oh. Wow. Why am I dragging Martin into this? He has nothing to do with this. I got nothing to do with that, man.

Well, I'm excited about the football season, though. Yes. Get this.

Yes. We got 22 graduates on our football team. Okay.

22 guys that have already got their undergraduate degree. Okay. How about that? So, we're mature. Okay. A little older experience. Okay.

And then we're going to have some new starters. What's the favorite Chip Kelly story you got for me that you can share? Give me one. That story he's told.

What do you got? I mean, this is a guy. A 30 for 30 on this guy would be outstanding. You got a good one for me? And then I'll send you back up the 405 before traffic gets crazy on a Friday.

You know what? I don't know which to pick. Chip is amazing. And Chip is funny. Chip is funnier than what people think.

He's hilarious. But I'll tell you, just this week, earlier this week, we had a donor dinner. Okay. It was a football kickoff.

250 people. Sure. And a couple of football student athletes come and all the coaches, assistant coaches, and Chip talk, right?

Yes. So, I'll get up there. I open it up and I'm thinking, like, what am I going to say?

And I talk about a situation that happened right before I came up to the event. I was in this parking garage on campus and I hear this car behind me just keep starting, keep starting the car. And it's not starting. The engine's not turning. Engine's not turning. And I'm like, man, I wish I had some jumper cables to help, but I got to get up here.

I don't have any jumper cables. And so, as I'm walking out of the parking lot, as I get to the steps, all I hear is, thank you God. Yes.

Yes. Thank you God. And then, vroom, and I hear an engine. And I couldn't believe that it worked.

So, I like kind of ran back to just see and I couldn't see who was in the car, but I saw the car like started and they were like celebrating. So, I told this story and I said, moral of the story is you got to hang in there. You got to keep going and keep trying and it's going to turn for you.

You just got to hang in there. So, everybody claps. I get done. So, Chip comes up after me and he says, boss, where you at? And I was actually in the back.

I was trying to get something to drink. And he said, what Martin didn't tell you guys is I was in that car. That was me. And it was hilarious, you know.

It would be just like that. But that's him. He's like, boom. That was him. What's Chip driving? I don't know. I don't think he was driving what I saw. I don't think so. But he said that was him.

But it was great. That's Chip right there. Okay.

That's Chip. Martin, thanks for the time here. I appreciate you coming down here. I got to ask you to come to a game, too, just like you did last year.

Yes. You came? Which one? Which one am I coming to? Which one do you want to come to? I don't know.

We play Colorado the 28th, October 28th. Oh, Prime. Prime. Coach Prime. Okay. Winner.

Like that one? That's it. Rip the knob off. I want to see him anyway. There you go.

Oh, yeah. I'll go. I won't even tell him I'm coming.

I won't even tell him I'm coming. Yeah. Because if he fights, we all fight. Right? Is that what you said?

Yes. Well, thanks to Martin, Jarman, everybody, the athletic director. Thanks for having me. Eight claps all around for the UCLA AED right here on The Rich Johnson Show.

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That leopard is not changing his spots. Yeah, because that gave you the impression that maybe he was about to as he's at the ashram at the very end there. I think he was more about he just had a really good idea for a commercial. And so that he did come up with one of... I thought that was a neat ending that- I did too. That was a very poetic and very nice way to end the show, and also very cryptic, which also sort of serves, sticks in the realm of the show's vocabulary anyway. So it was very cool. I liked it, and I loved being that guy for as long as I got to do it. Right. I mean, because it was born out of the Sopranos era, and it was a very Sopranos in a way type wrap up- Anti-hero kind of situation, and also, yeah, very kind of what does it all mean kind of situation, and that's great.

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On the Roku channel. All right, let's wrap up this show right here after a very busy week. We talked about it yesterday. Jim, we talked about it with the busing guys, and the day before, when Aaron Rodgers said, talking about his level of concern about the lack of protection he's been receiving so far in training camps, scrimmages, and things of that nature, and he said very low, and he really couldn't do anything about it anyway.

At this time, right? Basically the guys in front of him, the guys in front of him, and all that business. And I'm like, at this time, there's rumors that he's going to want David Bakhtiari. There's one man that's been left behind in Green Bay, one of his BFFs. Speaking of behind, he's clearly thinking of David Bakhtiari. The Instagram post that he had of him with his new number 17, Garrett Wilson. He put Bakhtiari on his behind, meaning his blind side, his backside. The guy is protecting him. He thinks that, you know, there's a goal for Aaron Rodgers that he's going to get it. The problem is, there it is, right there, right there, it's on his behind.

Never really thought that was his way, because he also loves his 17s, and he's giving a shout out to Davante Adams. Well, there's one guy who can make this happen, Bakhtiari on the Jets, or prevent it from happening, and it's a guy who doesn't know that Rodgers needs to be FaceTimed. Brian Gudekunst, Aaron Rodgers' personal wet blanket, throwing cold water on it. First of all, we're not going to trade David, so let's just get that out of the way, because I know there's been a little bit of chatter about that, and that is not going to happen.

But no, I think Dave's a pro's pro. What he went through was tough. It was tough on our football team, it was tough on him, and I think he's really in a good place now, really understanding what he needs to do to get ready to play. He was out there, I think, in some of these joint practices, and maybe last year he wouldn't have been. So I think he kind of recognizes where we're at and why he needs to be out there, but at the same time, I think he knows when it's time, when it's really good for him to back off and get ready. And as we get into the season, I think there's a lot of trust with him of what he needs to do to get ready to play.

Yeah. I mean, like I said, Jordan Love is the guy there, and if Jordan Love's going to be successful, he needs David Bakhtiari. They're not trading him. It ain't happening. But I still believe in the New York Jets, to the point where I'm about to draft Breece Hall and I just did it. Well done.

Thank you. Because even if Dalvin Cook is the Zeke, you know what he'll be? Tony Pollard.

Touchdowns from 70 yards out every single time he touches him. Coming off ACL though, Rich. I'm not concerned. He looks great, apparently, right now.

Usually takes like a full year, man. Thank you. I appreciate it.

All right, I'm going to put this up on Twitter, who's got the better team through four picks. What intensity? Very good. What's the intensity? Don't lose that intensity. Same intensity. Great show, everybody.

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