RE Show: Oscar De La Hoya - Hour 3

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Coming up, legendary boxing champion Oscar De La Hoya. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of our show on the air. Dalvin Cook in hour number two. Lots to say about his free agency tour and the zoom he was on. With the rest of the top running backs in the National Football League talking about their monetary plight and how Derrick Henry put everyone together on a text chain. And if you're not a running back on that text chain, I guess you got something to shoot for this year.

That's another chip that running backs will have on their shoulder. Hour number one, Taylor Twelman talked about watching Messi strike the game winner on Friday night. And if you missed any of it, we re-air as soon as this hour is over on the Roku channel. And we're also available to be heard on our podcast every single day. Once we're all done, the Cumulus Podcast Network puts the podcast together for us.

So check us out. Hit us with a subscribe button there. Hit a subscribe button also on our YouTube page, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. The Rich Eisen Show collection page is how you can check us out on the Roku channel. Chris Brockman is not here today, but he did call in with overreaction Monday topics. Last hour, we hit that. TJ Jefferson, the candle is lit, and it has been for the last two hours. Oscar De La Hoya is going to walk in this studio in about 19 minutes time to talk about his documentary that is debuting tonight.

It's debuting tonight on Max when you can watch it on Max on Roku right here. Mike Del Tufo, impressive that you are here today. Why? Okay. Well, you know what?

You know what? What is the one thing that you own that is worth the least? You own this, but it's worth the least. Right now, my boat, because it's out of the water. Okay.

That's one thing. What do you own that we talk about on this show multiple times that is worth the absolute least? I actually got the stockholders envelope a couple weeks ago. So you go ahead and say? Green Bay Stock.

Yes. Because I'm an owner of a team. I'm a team owner. You might not be aware, you're missing the stockholders meeting today. No, I know. I saw the envelope.

I wasn't going to go. What envelope? I saw the envelope. What envelope?

I got an envelope like probably, I don't know how many, like a month and a half ago. Where you are invited? Yes. Does it look like a wedding invitation? What does it look like?

No, no, no, no, no. I'll bring it. I have to bring it in. I have it, I think. I don't think I- I'd love to see it. I got to remind me.

Maybe is it underneath one of your Olaf coasters? No, it's basically because it's on Green Bay letterhead and it invites you. You have to like ask and then they have like a big- What do you mean you have to ask?

What do you ask? I don't think everybody can go. I mean- Oh, you've got it. You see, you've got to reserve your seating. You might not get- Because apparently there are 7,825 shareholders in attendance at Lambeau Field today. There you go. That's- 7,800 folks have made it to Lambeau Field for the Packers Shareholders Convention.

I keep watching on Zoom. Is that, what is it, Packers Con? Is that what it's called? PacCon? It's PacCon. This man here, he's got to know. What is it called, Mike?

No, I don't know. By the way, those places are called cons. Is that short for convention, not because it's an actual con? Is that what it is? That's right.

Mark Murphy, the president of the Packers today, said that they will retire Aaron Rodgers's number when it is time. Of course. And apparently received a round of applause from Packers fans and your fellow shareholders, Mike, fellow shareholders, the pet rock of sports. It's cool to have it, though.

I'm sure it is. I gave one away to a- I am sure it is, and I'm sure you're- I thought it was a Green Bay fan. Like, if you want to make your thoughts known about the way that they're running their team- You guys tried to get it. You guys shut out.

We tried. I got one. I'm an owner. Meanwhile, back at the Jets Ranch, the one winning drive.

Is that what it is? One Jets drive? One Jets drive. I don't know. There's another winning drive.

Everyone's got to drive. Meanwhile, back in Jets training camp, it's just weird to me. I can't- it's just- Aaron Rodgers said the other day that it's about how they handle success. It's going to be about handling success, is what he said.

I think this is what he said going out the door on Thursday's show. And I said basically, Aaron, the floor is yours on that because we don't know how to handle success. It's tough to know how to handle success when you haven't had success for a dozen years. Think about it.

There's a young man somewhere in the New York, New Jersey metropolitan area, many of them, I'm sure, who will be bar mitzvahed this year and become men in the eyes of the Lord, the Jewish faith. And they haven't seen the Jets make the playoffs. True. Twelve years.

Longest playoff drought in professional sports, tied with the Buffalo Sabres of Western New York, the National Hockey League. So when Aaron says they've got to figure out how to handle success, it's something I'm going to have to take my cue from him. Because, you know, it doesn't compute. It doesn't compute when I see him at the podium or see him in a Jets helmet. He put on the Jets helmet and uniform for a bunch of these photos that the Jets are putting out over the weekend, including their new white throwbacks that they are going to wear on opening night against the Bills and then bust them out again in week four. They're finishing up their first month with Rogers there. They're taking on in week four the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday night.

So they're going to wear their white throwbacks in their first nationally televised game of Monday night against the Bills and then their white throwbacks against the Kansas City Chiefs on NBC in week four. And again, I don't know how to take this because this is a sign of success that everybody's seeing it and talking about it and Rogers gets up at the podium and he's an actual quarterback who commands attention and respect. With all due respect to Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold and everyone before him. And that includes even Sanchez. When Sanchez was up there winning games, we're like, how long can this possibly last?

Is he the guy? Because they're running. It's the ground and pound with the defense. Then he starts eating hot dogs on the sidelines and then loses his gig to Tebow and it's like, OK.

It's been a long time. Farve might be the last quarterback who took the podium for the Jets and it's like, OK, he's got this. Handling success and the latest example of I don't know how to handle it is this video that went viral over the weekend of of Rogers practicing and rolling out. And I understand it's practice.

I understand it's early and it's just, you know, July. We're we're still knocking hard, but he just throws it, puts it up in the air and puts it in a spot that only Garrett Wilson can get it. And he makes a beautiful catch where he puts both feet down and it's a touchdown. And I see this and I think to myself, all right, Rogers is wearing eight.

Now I get it. But who used to wear 17 for him? Can this be his Davante Adams? Can Garrett Wilson be his Davante Adams? Can they have already an actual communication, nonverbal, where he just puts it where he needs to put it.

And Garrett Wilson grabs it. And I can't compute. I don't know how to compute all of these things. They make no sense to me. I don't I don't get it. I don't I feel I'm unfrozen caveman fan. I'm like your your success confuses me. Your your your ability to succeed confuses me. I don't I don't understand it.

I don't because they've got the pieces. Sauce Gardner gives give something to Rogers from has to be. We know this because he's established. It's Al the jeweler in his jewelry guy in New Jersey. Al gave him an eight pendant from sauce that is all iced up. And then Rogers hugs it out with him. And this is the guy who put the cheese head on his his head in Rogers's house last year.

You know, who went in last year and. When that success was happening, I'm like, I don't know how to handle this, except the fact I'm just going to enjoy the ride. And then we all know what happened, which is the usual trap door opening. And they suddenly suddenly couldn't win a damn thing because Zach Wilson couldn't do a damn thing.

Breeze Hall gets his knee blown out a week later. That's why, again, I you make that face all you want. You're like, no, no, no. When you said his knee blown out, it's just no, that's because these things happen. And I don't know how. That's why I'm going to have to take my cue from Rogers. Because all the things that need to be happening are happening. Yeah, I'm not I'm not like Chris. I don't understand.

I'm rich. I believe you guys are going to be very good because because they have they have played people. That man makes whether you like Aaron Rodgers or you don't. That man makes throws that I like.

No other quarterback can possibly write. And he looks like in the whole idea of, you know, well, he tweaked his calf during the OTAs or he was less than last year. We all know last year in Green Bay, no matter how much Mark Murphy is saying, we're retiring his number when it's time. And it's all that's why I was saying last year to all this stuff that was going on between Rogers and the Packers. Favre has his number retired there, but they all came back together and they all will.

Yeah. But the whole idea, though, that Rogers is fried toast last year, diminished returns were beginning to happen. And that's the Rogers the Jets are going to get this year. Rogers looks fresh. He said over the weekend, he's already talking about playing multiple years for the Jets.

And Salah even said out loud, he's expecting that out of Rogers. And the Favre stuff when he was with the Jets. We all know he was somewhat distracted while being there and then use the Jets as a transfer portal to Minnesota because he wanted to get back at Green Bay. And this guy who had the ice put around him by Sauce Gardner doesn't appear to be a guy who's just there because he had to.

Like Favre, not just there. Because he wants to get revenge on the Packers and he's going to use this moment to get there. He looks like a guy, if you want to show that one more time there, Mike Hoskins, he just looks content. He looks like he's having fun. Sauce is putting this ice on him and he's just like, OK, Young Turk, Young Squire, I'm your guy.

He's going along with it and he's just like having a blast. And again, the guy putting the ice on him is the defensive rookie of the year and the guy that Rogers found in the back of the end zone, like they've been throwing and playing with each other for years is the offensive rookie of the year. And I didn't even mention the All-Pro monster that sat in Rogers's lap in Green Bay last year, like he was a mall Santa Claus. And Quinnen Williams has been signed. And Breece Hall coming back and Elijah Veritaker coming back and hopefully Makai Becton coming back. This is the reason why I'm freaking out, because the Jets have put the pieces together and the coach is somebody who can actually lead those men. And they even got Rogers play caller in his year that he wants from his two MVP seasons. So, Rogers, I'm gonna have to take a cue from you.

I don't know how to handle this success. And then come the games. Then come the games and the rubber meet in the road, because the Jets, the schedule makers didn't do them any favors by putting teams that missed the playoffs on their schedule in the front half or the front third. I mean, you got, again, you can never tell, but you've got Atlanta, Houston and Washington and Cleveland all on their schedule and they're all in the back third of the season. The front third is the defending AFC East champs, the runners up in the NFC East last year. Then the Patriots, we all know about the seeing ghosts and everything right there. Then the Super Bowl champs, then a visit to Denver where Breece Hall blew his friggin knee out to take on Sean Payton and Russell Wilson before the defending NFC champs strolled in. Come on.

A trip to Vegas, that doesn't start off the season because they're trying to figure out the light switch with Jimmy G. That doesn't happen till later. So, these white throwbacks are going to have to really come on strong and we'll see how we handle failure. Because that's inevitable in the NFL and also as we Jet fans, it's tough. I just got to stop thinking that way. But it's tough.

I understand. You don't want to believe, you don't want to allow yourself to believe, right? I just want the Rogers that can, from the MVP seasons, that delighted stockholders like Del Tufo. And it just seems like last year, I will chalk up to right now that Rogers just, I don't think he wanted to be there. I think he was looking at these kids going, what the hell? I've got nothing in common with them and I'm going to try and coach him up.

Although, I don't even know if he coached him up last year. He's in a much better place now. Oh my God, is he in a much better place. It has to be more than that, Rich, because he and Sauce are kicking it and what could they really have in common?

He's going to the Tonys for the tight end and he's getting iced up by his cornerback. He just seems happy and that happiness and life, as we all know, makes the world a world of difference, man. If you could just be happy. So, Aaron, if you want to come up with a list of the top three ways to handle success so I can at least, you know. You know?

Yeah, so I can, I'd like to have that front loaded for my season. I'm sure I wrote a diary in the early 90s when my team was good. Okay. I just got to remember.

Yeah, dust it off. It was so long ago. It was a stone.

You could come to my house and read it to me to put me to sleep like the princess bride. It was a stone. Because you guys are ignorant. It wasn't that long ago. 844, 204, Rich numbered a dollar.

He was a papyrus. Longer than the last time. Let me just put it this way. I mentioned how there's a young man or young lady getting bar a bat mitzvahed in New Jersey or New York this year that has not seen the Jets make the playoffs.

There's somebody in the metroplex that I believe has just turned, what would you say? Let me say 28? 27, 28.

You know we're not good at math here. Wow. It's going to make this next one so sweet. Somebody just got their PhD after going through two different colleges.

Eight years of higher education. Alright, I'm sorry. It's going to make this one so sweet. Oscar De La Hoya. Oh baby.

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But for the first of two times to introduce this man, the golden boy himself, Oscar De La Hoya. Great to see you here in studio. Thank you.

Good being here. Let's take a look at a clip. The golden boy, two part documentary that premieres tonight at nine Eastern on HBO.

Available to stream on max, which you can stream right here on Roku. Of course. Check it out. My first trainer asked me to get in a boxing stance since I was left handed. My instinct was to stand like this, but it was too difficult for him to train you that way.

So he said, why don't we just switch you over? So now my power punch is the leader. Converting myself into a regular stance changed my destiny. At six years old, I had my first amateur fight. I had no gear, no nothing, so I put on my brother's shoes, which were like four sizes bigger. The boots would flap up on the tip. I had huge tube socks. The shorts looked like a skirt. The gloves were so big.

I mean, I looked like a little clown, but now I'm a fighter. Look at that seven up sign too. Right. From back in the day. I remember those, that logo. Oh yeah. I remember, I remember Sugar Ray Leonard doing a commercial for Seven Up with his kid. And so I remember my brother was buying a shirt so he can wear when he fights. And he said, man, I want that Seven Up logo on my shirt because of Sugar Ray Leonard.

And that's why it's there right there? Yeah. Amazing.

That's incredible. This documentary again, premiering tonight on HBO. Oscar De La Hoya is here on the Rich Eisen Show. We just saw a clip on our Roku channel feed.

And this documentary, The Golden Boy, is available to stream on Max, which is available on Roku as well. Why did you want to make this, Oscar? Yeah, it was time. It was time to tell the truth. I wasn't prepared when I was 20 or 25 or 30, 35, 40.

I was prepared now to just tell the truth on my terms, in my own words. I've been through hell and back maybe 10 times over, I think. And, you know, people talk about depression and mental health today. I think I probably was depressed like 12 times over. But luckily I had an outlet and that was the ring.

That was inside the ring fighting and training. And the clip you just showed, yeah, beautiful clip. But this documentary is pretty dark. It's heavy.

It's heavy. So what was the truth you wanted out there that wasn't out there? Like what do you mean by that? I think one of the, you know, when I won the Olympic gold medal. In 92.

In 92, Barcelona. The story of me winning the gold medal for my mother, who passed away from breast cancer a year prior, wasn't the real story. It wasn't the real story. And the documentary will tell you when you watch it tonight is it was all a lie. It was all a lie.

How did it come about then? I mean, so my mom obviously did pass away from breast cancer. And, you know, I did want to win the gold medal for her. Okay.

You know, I'm her son and I want to do this for you, mom. But the media kind of spinned it and turned it around. And it just took off like wildfire where they said the media, you know, Oscar or Oscar's mom's dying wish in the deathbed. Yes.

It told her son, like, son, you have to win this for me. Like Rocky? Yeah. Basically.

Right. You know, so it wasn't, so it's, was it a lie? Was it not like the documentary takes you through that, you know, through that road there. But just also all the pain that I've endured physically, emotionally, you know, I come from a very abusive household physically. My mom would beat me practically every single day as a kid. And my father, you know, not being there and, you know, pushing me as hard as he can because he was a fighter himself and my grandfather was a fighter. And so I just come from a very, very tough, tough household.

And thank God for boxing. I mean, that was my outlet to just let all my frustrations out. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

Oscar Little Hoyer here on The Rich Eyes and show The Golden Boy again is a documentary that you should all see starting tonight on HBO streaming on max here on Roku as well. What did you learn? Did you learn anything from going through all these memories? I was a resilient, tough son of a gun. I mean, you didn't know that already or? Well, you know, it's, I have to, I have to, I have to show the world that I'm tough. I have to. You didn't already, you don't think? I mean, I was, I, you know, I was tough and, and, you know, but I'm also a sensitive guy. You know, I'm also like, you know, I'm, I'm a nice guy, you know, I want, I want, you know, it's like my job was boxing, was fighting.

I mean, thank God I had it because who knows where I would be after, after enduring all that trauma, you know, and, and, and also this documentary, which is going to be very shocking to everyone. I talk about those famous, infamous photos that came out of me like 15 years ago. We found the woman who leaked them.

Okay. Who, who apparently received, I don't know how many millions of dollars for us to keep it quiet. They came out after we paid her, they still came out. So we found that person somewhere in like the Amazon and hiding out in, in South America. And so she's talking the whole truth of what exactly happened that night.

She's in the documentary. Yeah. Yeah.

If I told you at the time you were going to find this person and put her in a documentary and talk all about this, would you have thought I was nuts to say? Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. So then why are you talking about it now? Because I'm ready, man. I'm ready to tell the truth. You know, I, I'm, to me, this is so liberating.

This documentary, I've been working on it for about three years and the process has been so therapeutic for me. You know, I, Rich, I've been through therapy. I've been through rehabs.

I've, I've done it all over the years. And I didn't belong in there. Like people made me feel that I needed help. I mean, everybody needs help, but I'm not a crazy, I'm not a druggy, I'm not a drunk. I'm not a, I just, you know, I just, I was making wrong decisions, but don't make me feel like I'm just this, this person who is a bad person. And so I've just come to realize that, look, all I have to do is just have balance in my life. You know, I'm doing great. I mean, you can't run a big business if you're doing bad.

Right. You can't, you know, you can't be successful if you're, if you're not in the right place of mind. I mean, you know, and so all, all that, all that therapy and everything that I went through, whatever, you know, has helped me to be right here today and tell my story the way I want to tell it. Oscar De La Hoya, The Golden Boy, again, right here in The Rich Eyes and showing The Golden Boy is what it's called on HBO, this documentary. Uh, the best fight you ever fought where you thought I was perfect.

What do you think? Julio Cesar Chavez, 1996. Yeah. I thought I was invincible. Um, and I think I was in that fight.

I don't think he touched me one time. In 96. In 96.

Yeah. And the documentary will show, um, behind the scenes, how I trained for it. My trainer at the time, um, this little old man from Yucatan in Cancun, they call him the professor. He, uh, he was the perfect trainer for me for that particular fight. Um, but the documentary explains to you because the powers to be back then, the promoters, the managers, they got rid of him, um, after that fight because he was teaching me too much about life and philosophy and, and, and, and, you know, contracts and this and, and guess what? They got rid of him because they wanted to keep me quiet. They wanted to keep me kind of like suppressed.

And so I won't find out or ask questions about contracts and this and that. So it's pretty interesting. I mean, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's quite a documentary. So do you think you could have been actually better as a fighter after?

Way better. I mean, I think I could have won 16 world titles and eight different weight divisions and I always think I can be better, um, but, uh, yeah, that trainer just, he took me to a whole new level in terms of, of, of, of, you know, punching accuracy and, and just knowing how to study my fighter and figure him out matrix style, you know? So it's, it's pretty interesting. It has my father in there too, who is the toughest, hardest man I've ever watched on, on a given interview. I mean, he was never, he was never content with whatever I did. I mean, when I won the gold medal, he's, I could have done better, like what's better than the gold medal. I mean, there's a photograph of you guys right there. You're holding the gold medal. Yeah. And, um, you know, he even in the documentary explains how if Chavez was my age, cause I believe he was like 32 and I was 25.

If Chavez was my age, he would have beat me hands down. Like my father says that I'm like, Whoa, wait a minute. I'm your son. Give me, give me some credit here, you know? So it's, uh, it's interesting. My kids are in it as well. And they're talking candidly, you know, to me and how they feel about me.

So how did you take those scenes when you saw them? It's it's hard. Yeah. It's tough. It's uh, I mean, I see it every time I see the documentary, I just burst out and cry, you know, how emotional it is. Yeah. You got Golden Boys again on HBO available to stream on max as well.

That's available right here on Roku. I've got Oscar De La Hoya here on the Rich Eisen show. How does everything that you just laid out here, um, from your ups and downs, all the downs, uh, also the way that your handlers handled you, um, after the Julio Cesar Chavez, the, uh, the fight with, uh, back in 96, uh, how does that inform the way you're running your business right now with other fighters? How does that inform you? Um, you know, as a promoter now, you know, I promote all these champions and up and comers and YouTube, you know, sensations and this and that it's, everything's all about communication, you know, and sitting down with your team, sitting down with their team and, and just ironing out a plan, you know, and, and what do you want to do in your career?

Who do you want to fight? It's all information. That's all, that's all. Yeah. It's all just communication. That's all it is. Okay.

So you're, you're sit down with fighters and you're, do you think about what you used to be in that position? Sure. I was always in the dark, you know, you know, it's like, okay, sign this contract. Here I go. I signed it. Who am I fighting? Oh, okay.

I'm after I signed the contract. I'm fighting that guy. Okay. I mean, it was great. People took care of me.

Okay. I had a good team, but I would have loved to know more information because I think I could have been bigger. I think I could have been, have had, you know, bigger fights.

Like who? Who would you want to fight that you'd never fought? I mean, I would have loved to have a rematch with Felix Trinidad who beat me. Yes. In 99.

In 99. I would have loved to, I would have loved to have a rematch with Floyd Mayweather who took the decision. I would have, I wouldn't have loved to fight Pacquiao again because he kicked my ass. He kicked my butt.

That's all right. But yeah, there were many fighters out there who I would have loved to fight two or three times. You don't, so you had enough of Pacquiao is what you're saying?

Oh, trust me. Right when I walked into the ring, I had enough of Pacquiao. You thought that when you got in the ring? Oh, well, Rich, this documentary, my gosh, it's sad too at the end because it shows the whole Pacquiao situation. I was already, I was getting beat up in training camp when preparing for Pacquiao. So I knew that was the end already for me because Pacquiao was just coming up. Pacquiao was like the star in the making and, but what really screwed up my whole training for that fight was I started drinking heavy during training camp and nobody knew. Oh.

Oh yeah. I mean, it gets, so I was literally a dead man walking into the ring and I had no chance whatsoever. So you got in and you thought to yourself, okay, this is it.

I had no reflexes whatsoever. There's, there's a part in the doc where it's just, it tells you and it's true story. I was, I believe in the seventh or eighth round, he was just pummeling on me, just in the corner, just hitting me. And I was just wishing, just land that one perfect punch just to end it all. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That is something else, Oscar. I mean, wow. What's with you and Ryan Garcia that you're willing to share right now?

What is the latest? No. I mean, look, there's a pending lawsuit, but it's all going to be ironed out.

You think so? Yeah. Look, it's, we have a contract and the reason why I slapped that lawsuit on him was just to honor your contract.

That's it. Honor your contract. And he sued you first? No, no, no.

He didn't sue you at all. Okay. So you, you.

I just want my contract honored. That's it. Okay. So what did happen the night that he lost to Tank Davis? You had a death threat that you had heard or something? Oh, yeah.

So let me tell you the story. First of all, I was against the terms in that fight because rehydration clauses, when Ryan's a big kid and Tank, he can make the weight easy. The rehydration clauses were just absurd. Ryan Garcia had to weigh a certain amount after the fact, after when he weighed in, the day of the fight, he couldn't eat properly.

So what's, what is that going to do to you, to your body, to your mind? And there were other, other things that we weren't, we weren't agreeing on. But their team decided to negotiate it, to negotiate their side with, with the other team, with, with, with, with Tank's team. And so I was against that fight for, for obvious reasons, but, um, look, we're like family, I guess, you know, do you have your ups and downs? You have your discussions and this and that.

We're always, we're going to be family always. So it's just under your contract. So, but you, you heard something walking out of the arena. So first of all, the arena was crazy. I think there were, I think there was an overflow of like 3000 people. So you can imagine the standing room only inside the T-Mobile, I mean, it was just jam packed. And people, we were sitting first row ringside. People were literally trying to stand in front of me as if, and I was, you know, just, just in front of us, wouldn't let us see. And so there was just tons of people everywhere. The fight finished and you can, you can feel the tension, you can feel like, okay, something's going to happen here. And sure enough, there were fights everywhere all over the arena. And I'm walking towards Ryan's locker room and I just hear a whisper.

It's going to happen tonight. You watch. Your life is going to end.

And I'm like, what the hell? And I told my security late, we got to go. Let's go. So we just left. That's it.

Okay. My whole team stood behind, went to the locker room. Bernard Hopkins went to the locker room and, you know, stood by Ryan Garcia.

They told Ryan, hey, Oscar had to leave and that's it. But that pissed him off though, it seems. He has a lot of whispers in his ear. That's the, that's, that's, that's what really gets me. You know, he's a kid who, all I want to do, I mean, he, we made him $30 million in his last fight. You know, that's what we do.

And I want him to have a legendary career, you know, one that can win world titles in different weight classes. I just have to do my job. That's it. And so you think it'll all get ironed out at some point? It'll be okay. Okay. I've been through this a lot. I was apparently.

I mean, again, all you got to do is just watch the golden boy starting tonight again, nine Eastern on HBO and available to stream on max. What are you doing outside of your gig? Like what, what do you do? How do you spend your time? I mean, I play some golf here and there.

I've heard that. So that's the last time I saw you was on a golf course at lakeside. Do you, uh, do you have a, uh, a number handicap you want to share maybe four or five, depending on the candy I make or not, depending on the pot, depending on the flat steak. Yeah.

But I'm, you know, I got fitted for clubs and I'm just, it's feeling great and I have a good teacher. So, okay. So how far do you, how, how, what's your, what's your poke off about 300, you know? Yeah.

I can pound the 300 nine iron about one 55, one 60, 65. Best player you've played with, give me, give me, drop a name, Oscar De La Hoya. The best player, best player you've played in a foursome with, you played it with Freddie couples, Freddie couples. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just one of the coolest guys on the planet. Beautiful swing. I mean, he's fricking couples, but just the conversations that you must have when you're on the course.

Sure. You remember, uh, you remember, uh, David Duvall of course. I mean, when he shot his 59 at the Bob hope, this is years of years back, I was playing with him. Um, and the pro in the pro M shoots a 59.

I'm like, Holy smack. Wow. So you played with him in the pro M and then he shot a 59 later on. Yeah.

Okay. So you're, you're, you're part of the reason why he did it. Well, I mean, I think of course you got him ready. Did you ever play with tiger? You ever played with him? A long time ago when he was first coming out, like as a little kid, huh? As a, I mean, he was just a baby.

He was just a baby. Yeah. Could you see what, what it was all about though?

What did. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

You could see it. Oh yeah. It's it's look when you're, when you're at the highest level, when you're at the highest level in any sport, things are going to happen, you know, that are, you're in your control and that are not in your control. And most of it is not in your control, you know? And and I can, I can, I can relate to, you know, the best of the best, like why things happen, you know? And a lot of times, yeah, you, you're in that, you put yourself in that situation, you know, a lot of times people put you in that situation. A lot of times I call them the powers to be, you know, it, it, you know, things happen. And so in terms of moments in your career that you would like back, where is, is you losing to me in Rock'em Sock'em Robots in this documentary or did it hit the cutting room floor?

I think the, the Rock'em Sock'em Robots and the, uh, the Trinidad fight. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're up there.

They're kind of the nightmares every, I, yeah, I have nightmares of thinking, Jesus, how that happened. I can understand. There it is right there.

I'm sorry to, you know, this is it back in 2017, I think this is the first time you'd ever played this too. Correct? Yeah.

I had no experience whatsoever, but yeah, I heard that you, yeah, I heard you were like the undisputed. Yeah. I was.

And then there was the moment of truth. Yeah. That was actually my first and only loss on Rock'em Sock'em Robots. And then you autographed it.

I assume that's the only Rock'em Sock'em Robots that you've ever autographed. Very good. We'll keep it that way.

Um, thanks for coming on. Congratulations on this last one for you, Oscar De La Hoya. Now that you have seen The Golden Boy again, which premieres tonight on HBO, and you've been through this and you are now a 50 year old man on planet earth, you would tell what to your, let's go 19 year old self. If you could go back in time and say something to somebody, 19, 18, 17, right around then, you, what would it, what advice would you give that version of Oscar De La Hoya? I don't think I would change anything, but I would, I would tell him, um, it's going to get a little hot because you're going to go through hell. Um, but you wouldn't change anything.

You wouldn't, you wouldn't. I think everything that had happened to me, everything that took place in my life happened for a reason. You know, everything happens for a reason. And I think that, um, the fact that I can sit down here and, and, and talk to you and be open and candid and yes, and not be afraid anymore, um, is, is, is big for me liberating at most. It's very liberating. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Come back anytime. Oscar.

It's good to see you always. Let's, let's peg it up. That's Oscar De La Hoya. The Golden Boy again, premieres tonight, nine Eastern on HBO. It's a two part documentary.

Part two premieres tomorrow on HBO, all of it on max right here on Roku. Back to wrap up the show and your calls in a moment. We call it start bench cuts.

You can have to start somebody, bench somebody and cut somebody and we will have a game of Thrones theme to it. All right. What's the first one?

Chris Brockman. What do you go for? The first one is your favorite game of Thrones character, Khaleesi, Jon Snow, Jorah Mormont. You have to start bench one and cut.

I'm starting Khaleesi, mother of dragons, breaker of chains. I'm a benching Jorah and I'm cutting Jon. Cut. Wow. You can't have any rivalry. Johnny is trying to, you know, but he's trying to get in there and we got to cut, we got to cut. Wow.

Didn't see that. Okay. The nastiest MF'er on game of Thrones. You have to start one.

You have to bench one and cut one. Ramsay Bolton, Walder Frey, Joffrey. This nastiest.

I mean, you got to start Ramsay. He's the worst. I mean, he is.

All right. He's the worst of all time. I'm going to bench Joffrey because he's close, you know, he, the stuff that he did, I mean, Sansa has put up with all this crap from the men in her life.

She's a big better man. Exactly. And so I want to bench Walder Frey.

He's up there, but his death was, was exciting. So you cut him. He's out. He's out. Okay. Well, which he actually was in fact cut. Right.

Literally from all that. Okay. And then we'll just do one more favorite movie. Okay. The three choices are Shawshank Redemption, The Fugitive, You've Got Mail. Start bench cut. I'm not starting The Fugitive.

I mean, Tommy Lee and Harrison Ford. Fantastic. The best.

Right. I'm going to bench Shawshank. Phenomenal movie as well. And I'm cutting You've Got Mail. Well, you've got, you've got mail.

Not even the best Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan movie. Exactly. Yeah, but it's a hundred times online in Seattle. That was like a phone call on a radio show.

No one does that. Yeah, but you've got dial-up. You've got dial-up email. Yeah. Come on now.

You guys are, you guys are wrong. Uh, it's one of my favorite moments in the history of the show and Rogers is on in Minnesota at that Super Bowl. If you thought that would be your guy. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-rich-number-of-the-dial. Let's take some phone calls here. Um, let's go to Tyler in Vancouver, Canada. What's up Tyler? Hey Rich, how you doing? What's going on?

Hey, so I have a thought about the running back issue and I wanted to ask to see if this is feasible or not, but the source of this issue basically comes from teams thinking that it's, there's an economic incentive to draft a rookie replacement rather than paying a player that's got mileage on their legs or injury history. Yeah. Um, I'm with you.

Keep going. Okay. So in the CDA, I don't know how feasible it is or not, but when the next one's renegotiated, if they remove either years or the entirety of the rookie contract for running backs or other high wear and tear positions, then does that help remove the economic incentive for teams to adopt the strategy where they pay pennies on the dollar to backs and spend premium dollars on receivers and tackles and et cetera, et cetera.

I kind of don't follow you. So you're saying like, what are you having removed in a, in a, well, so the, uh, you know, so say you've got, you know, you, Jacob's on your team and he wants $16 million to take one, one $16 million. And you want to go, yeah, you know what we, you're valuable to us, but you're not that valuable if you're not going to sign this. Yeah, we can tag you and you can fit, but we're going to draft a replacement for you anyway. So I just think that a rookie is what they're actually worth.

Right? If they think a rookie can replace a vet, then that rookie actually holds the same value to the team. They're suggesting they can perform the same job, but the reason why that they, they get the rookie is they do believe that they can, uh, perform the same job and then pay them like a rookie. You know, they'll remove that option and have to pay them for what they're actually worth. If you think they can do that job, pay them what it would be worth to do that job market between vets and rookies for contracts. I appreciate the call.

Thank you. Um, they'll, they'll never go back to overpaying rookies. Again, the reason why you're seeing Anthony Richardson now signed today, Richardson, Stroud and um, and young have come to terms over the last 72 hours. Uh, you know, if, if, if this was like, say 2008, 2010, 2009, when I believe Stafford got drafted and three of the first four draft picks were quarterbacks, it would all be just like, okay, who's going first? And it would be like, okay, well the Texans got Stroud.

So they're the ones who were maybe like really hung up. If I don't come in Colts got Anthony Richardson, maybe they're the ones who are really desperate. So I'll hold out on him. Like there was a search for who's most desperate for this kid to actually pan out and then you'd hold out on those teams. Um, you know, well the, and it would always be the first overall pick cause you certainly don't want the first overall pick to go for nothing. Look what happened to the Bucks when Bo Jackson went and played baseball, right?

So those days are over and you're never going to go back to it. How about this for a radical idea about paying running backs? These running backs wind up making sure that owners pay them best you can. I don't know how the hell they're going to do it, but the owners should have to pony up for these guys if they hold out.

And I don't know what the answer is cause it ain't going to come through the collective bargaining agreement. It's on Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry. Somebody's going to have to be 33, 34, 35 running like he's 25 and proven his worth running for 1500 yards at age 32, 33 in the way that we're seeing Brady played a 45 and Rogers looked like he is 20 again, approaching 40 somebody who takes a punishment for a living is going to have to do it as an age 32, 33, 34 year old person. And it's going to be like, okay, so I guess we should sign that 24 year old to a contract, that 27 year old to a contract because he can be the next Henry. Look at what he's doing.

I don't know. Somebody's going to have to fool father time at that position. That's going to be tough. I hear you. I hear you or enough of these kids who get the opportunity crap out, sitting at the rich eyes and show desk furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call click Grainger.com or just stop by appreciate Oscar De La Hoya stopping by. Boy, how about him saying he's been through hell and back 10 times. It sounds like it. The stuff that he's gone through. I know he said that he didn't think he belonged in rehab, but I mean, if he's drinking before getting into Manny Pacquiao's ring, that sounds like somebody needs a little bit of assistance.

Some type of help. Right. And then also- He looks great. Him saying that he just wanted to get knocked out in the Pacquiao. Yeah. And my misery. Just put me out. Yeah.

Put me out of my misery. Let's hit that shot. That's dangerous because like everyone says, you don't play boxing.

It's not a sport that you play around in, that some serious, seriously terrible things can happen to you in a ring or an octagon. I want to thank today's guests, as well as Oscar De La Hoya, Dalvin Cook for calling in at top of hour number two, and then Taylor Twelman on Apple TV. If you missed any of it, guess what? We re-air right now on the Roku channel in just a couple minutes time, and for the rest of everyone else, we will chat on Tuesday. Thanks for taking in this edition of The Rich Eisen Show. How wrestling really works and how you get the ratings. Eric Bischoff and Conrad Thompson explain on 83 weeks. Collision has been struggling a little bit out of the gate with these ticket sales. A little bit out of the gate. This was a major show announced on a major network with what everybody thought was this huge star, CM Punk. I said he was going to be the biggest financial flop in wrestling history, and I think I'm being proven right every minute of the day. 83 weeks on YouTube or wherever you listen.