REShow: Brandel Chamblee - Hour 3

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We're not that close. Go back to Timothy. Earlier on the show, pro football hall of famer Marshall Faugh, senior writer for the MMQB. Albert Breer. Coming up, Golf Channel analyst, Brandel Chamblee. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.

Great chat in hour number one. Marshall Faugh, the pro football hall of fame running back who did it all. Including, by the way, holding out for what he deserved to be paid back in his day with the St. Louis Rams and the Indianapolis Colts.

We all know him getting traded to the Rams changed so many fortunes involving that organization and he was on in hour number one at his own request. He texted me last night and it was a great distraction from watching the Yankees strike out so much last night against the Angels and watching Otani teach the Yankees a lesson. He texted, I'm calling into your show tomorrow. And I'm like, okay. We found a time.

Appropriate. He was on in hour number one and he gave his two cents. Albert Breer on why Saquon and Josh Jacobs didn't get their long-term deals and how close they came to getting them in hour number two.

Phone calls as well. If you missed any of that, you're in luck. One hour from now, right here on the Roku Channel, if you're watching us, we re-air and we do it over and over and over again until we show up again tomorrow at noon Eastern time. On this Rich Eisen Show terrestrial radio affiliate or Sirius XM or Odyssey and then there's our podcast.

If you missed any of it, you can listen to all three hours every single day where all podcasts are acquired. Brandel Chambley of the Golf Channel is about to call in from the Open Championship at Royal Liverpool in England and I will ask him his thoughts on the live tour and the PGE tour's merger. Don't call it a merger.

Call it an agreement to get to an agreement. He'll be joining us in just about 18 minutes time on that front. And right now I'd like to pause and talk about the Southeastern Conference.

You've heard of them, right? In college sports, athletics? Well, it just means more there, Rich. Kirby Smart just spoke. The Georgia Bulldog head coach was asked about his schedule. Somebody was thinking it was cupcake. He said, you go play it.

It definitely is. He said, you go play it. Not that hard.

You go play it. Well, the Georgia Bulldogs will. Just means more unless, you know, Alabama's going to play Georgia. In the SEC Championship. Last SEC season in which Oklahoma and Texas will not be part of the mix. They're coming next year. Arch Manning's coming to Tuscaloosa maybe. Or vice versa. Followed by my boat.

Coming up. The name, image and likeness laws that passed in state houses in certain states across the country are now two years old. And many other states have followed suit.

I believe what Florida was first, California and Florida. And it's now been two years. And at the time we were we were all over that. We talked about a gym on July 1st, 2021, I believe is when that happened. And we're like, OK, is anybody ready for this?

Because this sounds like it's going to change everything. And I believe it was right around this time last year that Nick Saban, speaking to local business folk in Tuscaloosa, basically accused Texas A&M of buying their recruiting class. Or maybe it was last year. I don't know if it was this time or beforehand. But it made things a little dicey at SEC media days and things of that nature.

That storm has passed. Now it's just like what is happening in the world of NIL? And how does it affect whether a kid is coming to school or staying in school or hitting a transfer portal? And what does it mean for a kid that's thinking of going to school? High school kids, people showing up at high school games when they're 15 and saying, hey, I represent this firm and I think your kid can be terrific. And I think they can get into a certain school and I can help.

And I'm offering this much money for for you to do it. And NILs are used as inducements, which they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be paid to kids who are already on campus. And they use their name, image and likeness based on their performance on that campus to be paid by Buddy Garrity Chevrolet or whatever locally.

Friends of the program. And instead there are now, as you know, collections and collectives and things of that nature of different varying degrees of one might think legality. Well, one guy is saying this is out of hand and he is the commissioner of the SEC, Greg Sankey. And he had a state of the state address, state of the SEC union. But as you know, the SEC, there's a bus, there's a college athletics bus and football drives much of that bus. And if that is something you agree to, the SEC drives this bus. So Greg Sankey had this to say about the state of name, image and likeness and what is happening on that front two years after its birth.

In many ways, it's been a net positive for young people. But we all know there are stories, some stories told and others not told of promises made but not fulfilled. Of inducements offered but not provided. Of empty commitments. Of NIL agreements that created more questions than provided answers. And other behaviors in this space that rightly cause concern. And the reality is our student athletes deserve something better than a patchwork of state laws that support their name, image and likeness activity. If support is the right word. Our student athletes deserve something better than a race to the bottom at the state legislature level. As the efforts are made to create what are perceived as a competitive edge through state laws that are not overseen. So as Sankey said a couple minutes later that in his prepared remarks, so this is something you know he wanted to address.

He had prepared remarks. He said they don't know at the SEC of a single state law on name, image and likeness in the United States. A single one being enforced. None. Where somebody has run afoul of the state law and they are the ones holding them to account.

So if the states creating the laws are not policing it and enforcing it. Then who's going to do it? The NCAA is the Lieutenant Weinberg in this thing. You? You?

NCAA? Yeah exactly. You Lieutenant Weinberg sitting in Indianapolis with the former governor of Massachusetts now being the face forward guy in this thing? Charlie Baker?

You? Well Sankey identified who can help. And it's the United States Congress. The reality is only Congress can fully address the challenges facing college athletics. The NCAA cannot fix all of these issues. The courts cannot resolve all of these issues. The states cannot resolve all of these issues. Nor can the conferences. Whether congressional action is achievable is a matter of debate.

Much debate. But educational opportunity. Supporting equitable opportunities for men and for women. Ensuring the United States continued success in the Olympic games.

Providing medical care, nutritional support, academic support, mental wellness counseling. These are non-partisan issues. He's not wrong. You want to talk about much debate, United States Congress. We're in trouble if that's the organization and entity that he thinks is the only answer. So all you gotta do is watch that U.S. Senate subcommittee conversation on LiveTour and PGA Tour. Cause to me that, as you know, is a very serious subject going on. Foreign investment, Saudi investment in a United States golf entity that has a massive history rooted in our zeitgeist as a country and a sports loving country.

The PGA Tour. Yeah, that needs to be discussed by the United States Senate. And instead you saw some senators up there talking about Hunter Biden's laptop.

Unserious. And the guy in the U.S. Senate who you think would know quite a bit about this subject matter and would be there to help. Used to coach in the SEC and because of him, the U.S. Marine Corps does not have a commandant.

Senate confirmed for the first time since 1859. That guy is going to help. That guy is going to suddenly come out. Put aside his unique perspective on white nationalism for two seconds.

To hit this subject matter. Here's the answer, and I know Greg Sankey may not want to hear it. I think he's the answer. That guy sounds like he's running college athletics. He knows. He knows.

That's a leader right there. It strikes me. He's been on this show multiple times. Didn't I even ask him if he wants that job? And he doesn't want it.

I mean, we ask Jay Bilas every time. But because I think where this is going, because if we're hoping Congress does this. And I know I just pointed out one side of the aisle as pointing as that that is the problem. I don't think the United States Congress has the ability and wherewithal to sit down.

And handle this complex problem. I just don't. And I think the people that need to handle it, because he said as well in his speech, I invite everybody to seek it out.

It's on YouTube. That they have talked to student athletes on this front multiple times. And he said none of them want to become employees of the school. And that acting now is important because you're protecting 15-year-old kids and the current kids in these schools. That are probably told a song and dance by so many people that don't have the ability.

He said at one point in his speech that there are people who can print up on card stock that they're an agent. And show up to your high school and say, I got your kid. Like something has to be done.

And to me, I said it a couple of summers ago when this happened over in Europe. The superleagging of college programs. Find a whole bunch of people who are in a similar boat athletically. I know it's not fair to smaller schools and mid-sized schools and things of that nature. But at some point you're going to get, you have to get these schools, member schools together with student bodies to help. And find out which 64 to use a number 32, 64, 96 member schools want to be part of a separate entity from the NCAA. Where they make up their own NIL rules and everybody plays by those. And start from there and maybe build from the inside out, not Congress nationally in.

Because I don't think that cavalry is coming. And you create your own rules and you have your own playoff system. And you include Title IX and you include all the other programs and build from that football based organization. Use the college football playoff system to start and have Sankey running. I don't think he wants any piece of that.

I don't know him. But that's the way to go. Instead, you're just sitting there and just saying, we've gone to Capitol Hill, we've lobbied here, we've lobbied there.

Really? They're going to really, they couldn't even talk in a subcommittee without trying to make talking points for cable news outlets to talk seriously about what's going on, live tour and PGA tour. And we're going to have this conversation. Subcommittees and committees and get get the House and the Senate on the same page in a bipartisan fashion on this subject matter, really? Seems unlikely. Come on. Now, there are some people on Capitol Hill on both sides of the aisle and on both chambers who have some history in this. Maybe they can get together.

I don't know. And surprise us. But this is only going to get worse. And Sankey is sounding an alarm. He's using his platform to sound an alarm. And he's in charge of the SEC.

Southeastern Conference, not. Securities and Exchange. I almost said, what else? Oh, so. Congress, get out of here. That should be a shirt. Congress, get out of here with that noise.

You know, again, you could use our new drum. Do or not. Serious people.

They are not. You could see it every day. The pause is so good. I mean, Brian Cox legend. Eight, four, four, two or four rich number to dial. And speaking of, you know, live tour and PGA Tour, what's going on in the mind of Brandel Shambly?

I guess a welfare check on on him a month after the welfare check. Joining us from the side of the Open Championship, Brandel Shambly, when we come back. If you're like me and you're on the run, you need help finding good food and eating right. And now that we're in the thick of summer, you might be looking for wholesome, convenient meals to support sunny, active days. Factor, America's number one ready to eat meal kit, can help you fuel up fast with flavorful and nutritious ready to eat meals delivered straight to your door.

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Thanks for the podcast. No, I just was throwing out that you like when I work political. I like it better when you work blue. I know. You know, that's why eyes in after dark will become a reality. Eyes in after dark. I told you that Stewart Scott wanted to put sports centers on pay-per-view.

I think he may even brought that up to a couple of. You know how many viewers you would have had. Management times. It's kind of on pay-per-view now. ESPN Plus. I know. No, no, no.

But you work blue on there. Right. Just imagine if Stu could have said the biggie lines that he had to edit. Oh yeah. You know. But you know, just to be straight up, he didn't really curse that much off air. Oh yeah? He didn't.

It's like me then. He didn't. But I think he wanted to just be more forthright about certain subject matters.

I get it. But yeah, he wasn't, you know, like off the air, like always working blue or anything like that. And then he cleaned it up for on the air. He legitimately was the human being off the air that he was on the air.

Like straight butter. Must be. You know, he did that. So.

Must be better because he's on the road. Yeah, he wanted to do pay-per-view sports centers. I wouldn't have minded doing that.

As long as you got a little extra cash. You want to do that here, right? I mean, that's kind of the thing now. The second screens, you know, you watch the national championship, but watch us watching the national championship. No, I know that. But it's not people working blue.

I mean, that's why McAfee, what McAfee is doing is bringing the blue to the big cable network. See how that works out. Is you're open. Watch party. That's it. Watch parties and all that stuff. You know, people work blue. They're kind of drinking and having a good time.

What if we were allowed like three f-bombs a day? I'll take the under. Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network, sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grainger.

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The Peacock app has got you on that one. We'll have more on that on tomorrow's program. But for the moment, let's turn to the NBC Sports family from Golf Channel back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Joining us from the Open Championship is Golf Channel's Brandel Chamblee. How are you, Brandel? I'm terrific. Thanks, Rich.

Nice to talk to you. I'm sitting here watching it rain, and I think that's going to be pretty much what I'm going to watch all week. It sounds on brand. It sounds on brand for the Open Championship. How does everybody across the pond, which I'm mandated to say is an American sports broadcaster or anything that's over at a spot like, say, Royal Liverpool Golf Club. How are they looking at our reaction to the Live Tour and PGA Tour's agreement to have an agreement? Brandel? You know, I think that's a good question.

Thank you. I think it's viewed more favorably here, at least outside of the European Tour. Judging by what I've read in the newspapers over here, I subscribe to the newspapers over here. So I go on and I read The Guardian, I read The Times, and it seems to me like essentially because the Saudis were involved in Premier League soccer, and soccer has such a following over here, I think they're quicker to accept Saudi involvement, the possible, if you want to call it that, because I don't think they're so quick to refer to it as sports washing over here. But at least on the European Tour side, I think that the views are more mixed, but those that are opposed to the merger are even more vehement about it and more vocal. So at least on the PGA Tour side, the players that are, I would say, in close quarters opposed to it, are not near so vocal in front of the media. And I think that's one of the reasons why Rory has been somewhat frustrated. I would even guess that he, I don't know this to be the case, but I would guess that he feels slightly betrayed by the fact that he hasn't had a lot of support from his peers on the tour who are opposed to this merger. How has that become evident to you? Any frustration on Rory's part, because it certainly didn't show up in his golf game this past week. That's for sure.

No, it didn't. It shows up, I think, just in the terseness of his remarks as it relates to Liv saying, I would retire sooner than play there, or in his reluctance to go into the media center. If he's not the most giving player to the media superstar, I don't know who is. And at a couple of different majors in this week, he's declined to go into the media center because it's obvious he's going to get much the same questions that he's been getting. And he's not had a lot of support from his peers. And yeah, with regard to what Rory said, I stand behind him a hundred percent, he's not exactly getting that kind of support. And I think he's in, because of his play, because of his status, I think he's in the most prominent role, Tiger is not the nearest prominent because he's not playing. And I think in a lot of aspects, Rory is the most important voice in the game. And it may well happen in the history of this game that he could be proven to be the most important voice in this game historically, because what's at stake here, I think is the future of professional golf, certainly as it relates to the way it's viewed in the United States. Well, in terms of that, I want to put a pin in that discussion for the moment, Brandel, and ask you about the locker room.

Because I think the most common soundbite you might hear, certainly from live tour players, is this is a media creation. There's no issues amongst the players, that they are cool with each other, that they're not cool to each other. And that this is not discussed when they do cross paths, whether getting ready for a round or finishing with a round, or heaven forbid, have a round with each other after a round. So what is going on? What does happen in a locker room, do you think, Hugh? Yeah, I would say nothing is further from the truth than those remarks.

Nothing is more disingenuous than those remarks. If it's not all the players are talking about when they're away from the game of golf, it's close enough to it. And outside of the media, you go into any locker room, anywhere, and this is what people are talking about, I got into a taxi cab three days ago in London, on my way to getting a rental car, and the taxi cab driver asked me about live PGA Tour merger.

This is not the creation of the media, this is just circumstances of the Saudis trying to buy sport everywhere in the world, and it's causing controversy, and it's raising a lot of existential questions. And do the players hash it out in a locker room, crossing paths, say something to each other or don't? I think there's been acrimonious exchanges, certainly, I've heard of those. There's been finger pointing, fingers in the chest, there's been raised voices, and I think some have just agreed to disagree. There's been players that have patched things up, just pretty much everything across the board as it relates to verbal confrontations. And then some players, they're out here to try to play golf, no more head game than the game of golf, and if you're not in the right space mentally, you're not going to play your best golf. So I think strategically there are players that avoid the controversy, so they sort of stay on the fence, they try to be Sweden in this whole controversy, and I understand that, but that's not what this period of time calls for. This calls for leadership, it calls for clear-headedness, this calls for having the right moral compass, an ethical compass, and thank goodness in that regard, Rory has been very vocal.

Brandel Chamblee of the Golf Channel here calling in from Royal Liverpool in advance of the Open Championship, which you can see right here on Roku through the Peacock app, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. So let's jump back to what you said about the cross-section of golf and history that we're at right now. We haven't spoken in a month, we spoke just on the eve of the United States Open when this merger, don't call it a merger, now Jimmy Dunn said to Congress last week it's really an agreement to get to an agreement. Where do you think everything stands now a month later, Brandel? Look, I think I've heard people closer to this than me say that it's 50-50 on whether or not this deal actually goes through, and I think there's a lot of question marks about whether or not it's better if the deal goes through or better if the deal doesn't go through. I think whichever way you look at it, I think the game has been tilted towards greed, and to re-anchor star players to the reality of their situation is going to be difficult. The ratings can't support the purses that players are playing for right now. And to re-anchor, because if private equity comes into and starts supporting the PGA Tour, they're not going to spend frivolously. It's going to be tied to market principles.

So these PGA Tour players are going to sort of have to re-anchor their value to the reality of economics, and that's just not where they're at right now, and it's going to be tough to put that genie back in the bottle. So what did you take away from that hearing last week? What jumped out at you, Brandel? I wouldn't say that I was surprised by any of it, to be honest with you. I think it was for the parties that hadn't aired things out, to air them out and to speak to the sides. I'd heard what Jimmy Dunn and Ed Herlihy and the PGA Tour had heard their position before, and certainly I follow Blumenthal on social media sites and other senators, and I was pretty well aware of their position and their concerns that this perhaps is a violation, antitrust violation. Because look, if you look at it and it's LIV, PGA Tour, DP World Tour merger, how is that not going to be considered a monopoly? And then the PGA Tour side, is it better or worse for the players that are competing? And so there are these conflicting sides of it, but I don't know that anything that transpired that day managed to change the public conception, or perception I should say, that the Tour is up for sale, and that it was on the way to being sold to the Saudis. That's the perception, and how they go to overcome that perception I think is a very difficult task for the PGA Tour. And how about the idea that Yasser Al-Rumiyan getting a green jacket and an RNA membership might be part of this equation, or was, or is attempted to be?

How'd that one hit you, Randall? Look, I thought that was one of the more bizarre aspects that came out. It sounded to me, and I don't know exactly, that they were throwing that on the table, but I doubt that there was any acquiescence towards that goal. I wouldn't have thought that that would bring the power to be particularly happy. But yeah, I mean look, how did deals get done? What do you want? I think we can all sort of get our arms around the nature of how deals get done.

You give a little, you give a little, you give a little. But I guess the most surprising aspect is that they were implying that Tiger and Rory would be a part of these lived teams and be traveling around. Even before that came out, I just couldn't ever imagine a scenario where Tiger and Rory would ever commit to something like that. And so the very idea that that would even be mentioned or kicked around as a possibility seemed preposterous to me. And there's just, Tiger's too tied to the PGA tour for all the right reasons.

And I think he's absolutely spot on with the ethical compass as it relates to this issue, as is Rory. And the idea that they might in some way capitulate in this regard, it was preposterous to me. Well I mean, I guess that's a good word for it, but if the PGA tour was capitulating or saw common ground or saw some necessary gives just to get a path to survival as PGA officials might tell you, then why not give a shot at Tiger and Rory? Although the thing that was preposterous, the most preposterous, was thinking Tiger would play 10 events. All he has to do is send his MRI to the people at PIF, right, and say 10.

I would sign for watching Tiger play 10 competitive events the rest of my life right now, Brandel. You know what I mean? That's a fair point.

You know? You look, yeah, look, I think the hard part here to swallow is that there had to be legal liability on both sides because why else make the deal? Because there was what I would call good clean money. I mean if you listen to and talk to investors, there's the idea that the PIF has all the money in the world, it's laughable. That's $650 billion. There's $140 trillion ready for investment. Good clean money around the globe ready for PE investment.

The idea that the Saudis have a monopoly on the cash infeasement that the tour might need is laughable, so there's plenty of good clean money out there. Why it wasn't considered, why it wasn't an option, it's hard to understand. Look, I know that they needed to kill the lawsuits to stave off the bloodletting of money. To that end, they've done that.

To what I understand, they can't be addressed, so that issue is taken care of. The idea now that you wouldn't consider what I would call good clean honest money available and ready to be invested into the PGA tour, that's a head scratcher to me. I think that's where the game needs to go, and again, that is going to re-anchor the stars to more economic reality. I think a lot of tour players now, they have such an overestimation of their value. All they have to do is just look at the ratings of the tournaments that they play in, compare them to the ratings of college football, big college football games. They get blown away by those. The idea that they're worth what they're asking for is just preposterous. They're going to have to get, again, their overestimations of their value re-anchored to economic reality, and it's going to take private equity to probably do that, unfortunately. Let's wrap up our conversation, Brandel Chamblee, Golf Channel, Brandel Chamblee here on The Rich Eisen Show, with a conversation about the actual competition.

How about that? What do you think of the field at the Royal Liverpool Golf Club, and who has the best chance to hoist the claret jug coming up on Sunday, Brandel? Yeah, Royal Liverpool has just as good a record as you can ever ask of a golf course at dividing out the very best players to win it.

I just can't even imagine a scenario where you could get a better record than Royal Liverpool over at least the last 50, 60 years. The number one player on tour in 2014, guy who was rated number one in the world, had number one in pretty much everything. It was Roy, he won in 2006, it was number one player in the world, it was number one in every single thing. You go back further to a fellow less familiar, by a long shot, to American audiences, but Roberto DiVincenzo, his record in the Open Championship when he won here in 67 was nothing short of spectacular. He'd been at five times, he'd finished third, he'd finished second a couple times, he was the favorite at so many different Open Championships, and he finally won in 67. And the person that he beat was Jack Nicklaus by two and Gary Player by two, the next two best players, at least in the Open era that Roberto DiVincenzo was playing in. And then you go back to Peter Thompson who won in 56, from 1953 to 1958, that's six Open Championships. Only three players managed to even beat Peter Thompson in those six Open Championships. So you go back to 1956 to present and it's got a darn near perfect record at dividing out the best players. So having said that, you don't have to look very far down the list. It's Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, Jon Rahm.

And if you have an English flair and you're trying to follow and make a case for some good English golfers, Terrell Hatton, Tommy Fleetwood are certainly high enough up there in the various ranks to compete, but really I think this is going to just be a head-to-head competition between the best in the world. The only caveat to that is it's soft. The conditions are soft. And when they're soft, shorter hitters can come in because they can stop balls on greens.

They wouldn't ordinarily be able to. So to that extent, you'd say Colin Morikawa, Rickie Fowler, Tom Kim, you go further down the list. It's going to be a little bit more open than you would think, given the soft conditions. But in the end, I still think it'll be the biggest of big boys that prevails. Love our chats, Brandel. I appreciate it. Thanks for calling in on such a busy week and let's talk down the line. Greatly appreciate, as always. Thanks so much, Rich. Always nice talking to you. Right back at you.

If you follow Shambly Brandel on Twitter and Instagram, I follow him. You should as well, right here on the Rich Eisen Show. It's an interesting chat right there. During our conversation, it's clanking around the old internet tubes, is the pairings for the Open Championship.

And you've got to wonder if the Royal and Ancient is messing with the heads of one particular participant in the field. What's next? As we wrap up this fascinating Tuesday show, lots of great conversations here. We'll hopefully have one more for you before we beat it on down this Tuesday road.

That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show. All right, everybody. We're back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Began watching season two of The Bear. Nice. Yes, Chef.

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So good. His character is to this show what Roger Sterling was to Mad Men. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. He goes up and it just pops the screen and the scene and adds a certain level of comedy that nobody else is able to.

He goes three for four with two doubles and two run scores. Every time. Every time. Oh, in the new waves. The way they revealed him in this season as well was a delight. I love him. Well, season one where they had the kid's birthday party. Yes.

That was great. At his house. And I rewatched the scene where it was his first scene of this season, it was in episode two. When they told him about the money?

Yes. And I rewatched it just to watch it back with him. I love him. He got nominated for an Emmy or a guest star. Did he? He did. He deserves it. He knows that.

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I know, I know. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. It's one of those where I'm in that situation, because Suze didn't watch season one.

I did. She's now hearing such great things about season two. She wants to catch up. She wants to just jump into season two. I tell her that it's not acceptable, that it's not the way to do it. You can't do that.

Nope. So you've got to start from season one, which means I've got to wait for her. When was the last time you watched season one? Oh, I could easily rewatch that. That's why I understand what you're saying. I was halfway through season two and I was like, I don't want this to end.

I could totally do that. I don't know if I want to, back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Not even for your wife?

You know, we're talking about maybe... Do you... It is one of those things like, I understand when you're watching a show with your spouse, significant other, and you can't watch one... You can't go two episodes ahead. It's a personal affront to your partner's spouse, however you want to place it. It's a personal affront if you get ahead and you don't tell them. It's like a trust issue. It's kind of like a trust issue.

I mean, obviously there's certain grades of trust issues in relationships. Not telling too many tales out of school. Not to turn myself into Dr. Drew here for a second. I can feel it. But I think it's a different story when, like this, Susie didn't watch season one of The Bear. She's hearing great things about season two. Says, I'll just start watching with you. I'm like, no, you've got to catch up. And I'm now off on watching season two. How deep into season two do I go before waiting for her to catch up? Or I just don't. I just rip the bandaid off and that's it. She's lost. She snoozed. I don't know, man.

She loses. I'm going to go back and rewatch season one because that's what I did and I picked up on a lot of stuff. I could do that. But that's it. That's a commitment. Season one is a really quick watch. There's only eight episodes. And they're a half hour. And they're great. And it's an amazing show. Yeah. And just think about this, Rich.

If you don't want to watch it with her, we have a caller who will gladly sit on the phone and watch The Bear with her. Wow. That fella. Yeah. Wow. In hour two. Wow. DJ. Yeah, I don't think so.

My little old Matt went there. Just saying. You are not serious people.

They'll trade notes over the phone. I kind of dig our new... Is it growing on you? Our new drop? You are not serious people.

It doesn't hit you. You're not a fan. You know, I got to say, I kind of put the succession in the rear view a little bit. Wow. I'm just saying. I'm on to other shows. Like what?

What do you want to? We're watching The Lincoln Lawyer right now. Which season? We just finished The Bear.

Season two, Lincoln Lawyer. Were you already both on to season two? Yes. We finished season one together. Okay.

Yeah. Well, you agree with me that when you're watching a show with Sarah, you... Sarah will check with me. Are you interested in watching this show? And I'll say no.

Like season two, Yellow Jackets. I watched one. A little too weird of a show for me.

Go ahead and watch two on your own. But she did ask, is it all right if I go on without you? She did check. Yeah. That's it. That's a solid relationship. Gotta communicate. Now, solid the way most people mean solid and not the way you mean solid. Correct.

No, no, no. The way I mean it, which is the actual word for it. It's a rock solid relationship. Yeah, but sometimes you don't like solid. I don't like solid when it's used in a way like... He's a solid player.

Yeah. He's a solid... That's not good. You don't want to be a solid player. No, because you want to be a star. You'd be better... Honestly, for all you folks out there, maybe do I need to give a tutorial on the word solid? But the problem is, is that I know a lot of people who use this, and I don't want to come across as a little disappointed in them, because I still love them. You know, Jerry, Agent of the Stars, I had to give this to, because he kept on calling things that I'm doing solid.

I'm like, all right, we got to stop now. Well, what about you're doing solid work? Is that... It is... There is a better adjective. Excellent is a better adjective than solid. So when Susie texted me last Friday to say you were a solid tennis player...

Correct. And then I told her... You didn't like that. I did not like that.

But it's also an accurate portrayal. I'm not terrific. I'm not excellent. That's an actual good use of solid. I am a solid.

You could even put in the assumed parenthetical of for my age in there. That's what I'm saying. Put solid.

For you folks out there who use the word solid, think if you could use a better adjective. What if there isn't one? There is.

There always are. It's called the language. Just learn it. It's a dictionary. It's a thesaurus. Solid is descriptive. It is descriptive, but let me ask you this question.

Getting the point across... Hold on a second. Excuse me. This is what we're going to say. Is Tom Brady a solid quarterback? Is that the best word you can use to describe his time? No one would ever describe him as solid.

Correct. Because he's excellent. But no one would ever do it. Like that sentence has never been uttered probably in the history of the English language. Why have so many people used solid as a terrific connotation?

You're already admitting then that it's not the most terrific connotation. No one would ever say Tom Brady is solid. You would say Kirk Cousins is a solid quarterback.

Exactly what I don't want to be referred to as solid. You don't want to be the Kirk Cousins of over 50 tennis? Oh my God.

I tell you, he'd be rich. And again, I don't mean to denigrate Kirk Cousins. Certainly not in the way Marshall Faulk says he didn't in hour one, but we all know. I think he called him a bum.

He savaged him. But you understand, do you get what I'm saying about solid now? Of course, but... Your take is really solid.

Thanks. But it's not the best take, but if I know it's not a great take, I'll take solid as a compliment. But you, so many people use the word solid as a compliment, and I'm saying that it's a backhanded compliment.

I wasn't in a thing from the 70s too. Solid. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Maybe that's why it's used in a way as a superlative, which it is not. It's a middling adjective.

It's better like... Solid is a solid adjective. Solid is... Well, no, not if you're actually using it to describe my tennis game. I have a solid tennis game. But you took offense to that, even though you admit that your tennis game is not... That's because, again, I hear the word solid, and it's... It's triggering. It triggers. By the way, since we're...

It's a more than solid trigger. Since we're on the English language right now, on YouTube yesterday, there were a lot of people correcting you about saying that Tyreek Hill did not speak in the third person. Oh, he did. Or the second person. Yeah, they said he is in the third person, not second. Cheetah or both the third person.

He and Cheetah. Is that right? Yeah, I didn't catch it either. Okay. I'm happy to learn. So it's a less than solid opinion.

If you want to believe people on YouTube. I do. I think that I...

But so many of them said it, so I was like, what? I gotta learn. I've gotta learn. And I appreciate the correction. I hate to be that guy, but isn't he also third person?

I don't know. Second person is... You, I think, is second person. You, your, and yours.

Got it. He is third, you is second. That's what I'm learning from people. If he would have called himself you. That's tough then to do. I wouldn't put past Tyreek though. I wouldn't either.

He's very fast. So if somebody in, let's just say Chris, you and I, I invite you to come play golf. That would be great. You have a nice course. But if I invite you to come play golf with somebody that you have already told me you don't like playing with, because this individual plays too slow, that you're waiting too long for this person, or they have been in front of us before, and their slow play prevents us from playing at the pace that we want to play at.

Just a normal four hour round. Would you accept the invitation to play golf with that person? We're playing with them? Yes. I would have to really think about it and push back. Probably not. I'd probably skip it. Okay. I'd come up with some excuse.

Cage has got something going on. I mean, it doesn't matter. Even if you told me, hey, I can't play with that guy, then I would not invite you to play with that person again because I have respect for you. Thank you. You're welcome. You're very generous.

I'm a solid guy. So how do we take it when we see the royal and ancient decide to throw Brooks Koepka in the same pairing as Patrick Cantlay? And Patrick Cantlay is, and it's interesting that we're showing a photograph of raindrops because he's a human rain delay, frequently with a stick in his hand. He is the personification of the comma in Pat Summerall's murder, she wrote. Okay.

That's really funny. The human personification. Cantlay. He played Koepka.

He waited. He has been vocal about Cantlay's pace of play. Has he not? He has.

And they don't even play on the same damn tour anymore. This famously goes back to the masters where Brooks was in the final group with Jon Rahm and Cantlay was in the group ahead of them and Cantlay was going very, very slow because there was all kinds of weather. We call it deliberate.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's deliberate. Brooks sometimes waiting 10, 15 minutes between tea boxes waiting, and so he's very vocal about it. He doesn't appreciate the slow play. They are now playing together in the same group, the 9.37 AM local time with Hideki Matsuyama.

Now I take this as potentially the RNA having a sense of humor, whereas Cantlay and Hideki famously were offered or were rumored to be going to live, ended up not going. Brooks obviously did go, so let's drill the live guy in with two PGA tour guys. One guy he can't stand his pace of play.

Is that kind of... That kind of messes with him. Well, Brooks is a terminator out there in majors. He's played very well this season in the majors.

Because he's one of the all-time greats. He's blossoming into that. He's not already there. Well, he's got five majors. He's past Rory now for career majors. He's one behind Phil.

Yes. So he deserves the respect here. He should get...

It doesn't matter whose money he's taken. I'm surprised, honestly, that he wasn't paired with Rahm and Wyndham Clark, the other major winners this year. Traditionally, that's been a thing.

Instead, they put him with the grandfather clock. It's gonna be an awkward hello. They won't even say hello. They won't speak the whole round. Guaranteed.

Well, I mean, we thought that about Bryson DeChambeau and they wound up playing against each other. Right? Didn't they do the match? Didn't they? They did.

Right. I don't think... Which makes you wonder if the quote-unquote feud was... Oh, who knows? No, I think there was a feud. Didn't he roll his eyes when he walked past him at one point?

That's famously... I don't know. Very funny memes, guys.

I guess that's what he's looking like right now with Can't Wait. Very funny memes. Oh, my gosh. But, yeah. It's very comical that they're paired together now. Yeah.

It's... What does he got? Who else is the other pairings? Some interesting ones.

There's some good ones. Yeah. Scottie Scheffler's playing with Tommy Fleetwood.

Ching Lowry, who's won this before with Rickie Fowler, who the last time it was at this course, finished runner-up to Rory in 2014. Yeah. Rory, Rom, and Rose. The three R's. That's really fun.

Reading, writing, arithmetic of golf. Speed, Matt Fitzpatrick, and Jason Day. Yeah. John Daly is playing. I saw him. Very good. John Daly, former champion, gets to play with Danny Willett. Here we go. Rock and roll. See? If this is Can't Wait, the show would last another 30 seconds, but unfortunately we're out of time.

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