REShow: Travis Van Winkle- Hour 3

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Yeah, cause you know I'm on top, and there's no doubt in me. Earlier on the show, Senior NBA Writer for the Athletic, Sam Amick. Hackers linebacker, Rashawn Gary. Legendary broadcaster, Bob Costas. Coming up, actor, Travis Van Winkle. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Welcome to this third hour of this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. The funny, interesting, engaging Netflix show, FUBAR, with a second season already ordered up by that streamer. By the way, you can see it right here on Roku. The actor, Travis Van Winkle, will be here in studio.

Lots of Arnie stories, I'm sure. And it'll be a fun conversation when he joins us in about 20 minutes time. Rich, heads up, that's going to be a tough two shot for you. Oh, I'm aware of that. Yeah, okay. I have eyes, Chris. Yeah, no, I understand.

They work. Hey Rich, this is prepping you. I survived the Richson. The Richson Yalta the other day, where he said he could take everyone from Fast X sitting next to me.

No hint of irony. By the way, Sal, I'm all right. Hey Rich, there's a lead that I don't want to get buried here. Right before we went to break, before Mike did the Glenn What's-Her-Nuts drop, you mentioned that your show hosting yesterday was the equivalent of a perfect game. I think so. I need more on that, man.

I don't know. I woke up dangerous. I completed the mission. I thought I didn't make any mistakes.

I don't think there was any marks on the sheet. Okay. So. I just didn't want to leave that, you know, hanging like that without... There was once upon a time a SportsCenter commercial about... A perfect show, right? Yeah, Dan and Kenny was going through a perfect show or Dan was going through a perfect show.

Nobody was talking to them or something. Right, and no one in the control room was doing it, you know. And I do believe the story behind that is that that was a rewrite on the fly because David Wells, who was supposed to be in that commercial, never made it in his car to get up to Connecticut. So, because that was done in the late 90s after David Wells threw a perfect game for the Yankees. And, you know, I believe that was the commercial back in the day.

And that might have been a germ plant, a seed planted in my head that just popped out by saying I had the perfect show yesterday. There might be a SportsCenter. Oh yeah, so it's Dan and Kenny.

Dan has a perfect show going. All the cameramen are just kind of looking around. Yeah, they're trying to... They don't want to look at him. Right.

Kenny's got his jacket over his head. Yes. In between commercials.

Yes. Yeah, pretty funny. He was doing the narration. That was apparently not the initial commercial. It was like, what are we going to do?

It's a funny script. And David Wells was maybe supposed to be in the control room as opposed to an umpire or something like that. Isn't that the payoff? Is that there was somebody in the control room that was... I forget what the payoff was. The double negative is what cost Dan his perfect show. The double negative.

Those were great commercials back in the day. I remember my first day of work. Well done. My first day of... Was it my first...

Hold on a second. I'm trying to remember if this is a false memory or not. I believe it was either my first day of work or it was the day I was there to chat with Keith Olbermann as a recent graduate of Northwestern's Ms. Dill School of Journalism. And I got a chance to chat with Keith.

I think that's what it was. Because on my summer internship at CBS News, Keith was in the fantasy league with the executive producer of the CBS Evening News, Eric Sorensen. And I was the intern on the desk that had to photocopy the weekly fantasy baseball reports. If you remember, you would get a report once a week. You couldn't in real time back in the mid 90s get...

There was no website to compile it in real time. So you would then get the report a week later and see who's in first place and not. And I had to... He would receive the report, I would photocopy it and then fax it to different people including Keith. And I noticed Keith's name on there. And at the end of the year, at the end of the summer, you know, Eric Sorensen watched my tape that I had just put together after Northwestern.

That's what it was. And after Northwestern, and I asked him, you know, hey, is it possible for me to get a meeting with Keith, connected with Keith? And he did. And then I went up there to go visit him, I think in 94. The day I went up there was the day that... The Cordell game.

Cordell threw it to Westbrook to beat Michigan. And I wished... I had a dream come true to be at ESPN.

And then I wished I wasn't in a spot where I couldn't turn a television off. It was like everywhere. So I don't think it was that day. Then I think it was the first day of work, they shot the commercial, the We Are The World spoof, Don't Walk. Remember that SportsCenter commercial? I remember the We Are The World one. Where they were all singing Don't Walk about traveling. That was, you know... They were so good.

There was no traveling. And everybody would sing the song Don't Walk like it was We Are The World. It was like Charlie Steiner, Dan, Keith, Craig Kilbourne, Linda Cohn, this mascot, that mascot, all singing Don't Walk. I remember thinking to myself, that's a SportsCenter commercial I wish I could be in.

Took me a while to get in one. Do you still have your old tapes? Old tapes for what?

Little tapes you would send in. I just made a DVD for it. Oh, that's right, you did. Did you really though?

Did you say you were doing it? Did you make it? I gave it to you. Oh, I don't remember seeing it. I gave it to you. So it's my original...

Yes, the original edition, the one that we had. I made copies. The reel that got me on the SportsCenter radar from when I was working in Redding, California, I put my reel together.

I got a high school football game I'm booting over. I remember the two big things that was on my reel from my Redding, California, KRCR television resume reel. The two big things was one, I interviewed a bull at a rodeo where the actual bull's owner was standing behind the camera to make sure the bull wasn't going to bum rush me from behind.

That was one. Another one is I did a feature. We got a call one day because beautiful Lake Shasta, Shasta Lake, that's right there, right there in Redding. We got a call that Tonya Harding was on a on a houseboat and my news director said, go, go up there. And I thought to myself, I'm in the car, in the news car with the logo of the station emblazoned on the side. So you knew who was on the scene.

I hopped in that white Ford Escort and I got up and I remember thinking to myself, this is my big break. And I remember thinking to myself, wait a minute, how the hell am I going to find her on a houseboat in the middle of this massive lake? And I got up there and the person who was running the houseboats refused to let me know, confirm or deny that she was on there. So I remember I called up this, you know, called back to the office and the news director's like, I don't care, just go. I'm like, can I rent? You want me to rent a boat and go around the lake and search for her? Figure it out.

I remember he's like, I don't care. Use your use your imagination. Figure it out. We'll rent a speedboat.

You know? And so I then you know, what I did is I just went up to the houseboat renter and I'm like, can I just go on one? And I did a feature about if she is, in fact, on the lake as we got, she would be in a houseboat just like this one.

And I like plant. Did you have a cameraman? Yeah. I planted a stick into the drawer of one of the houseboat bedrooms and just busted out this massive stick. And you got all wide-eyed and put it back and ran off camera.

Stuff like that. I think that's on there. Did it air? Of course it did. I edited it together. You know, that's what we use. One man band operation.

I believe it was. I believe I did have a camera like we had one person working. Because I have your highlight tape from those at home somewhere. Because we digitized all of that for an old episode of the podcast TV show probably 12 years ago. How the hell did we get here? How did I get here?

Please. Great question. All of us, I think.

How did we get him on the subject? Oh, yeah. From the perfect game. From that SportsCenter commercial.

We've all had perfect careers. George Morrison and Lil Penny are in this Don't Walk video. Do you remember that? What year was that? Does that have a year?

1996. Okay, so that was my first year at. So it was the first day I went. I'm telling you, I was 26 years old, fresh out of Redding, California. Showing up on, I believe my first day of work was Valentine's Day, February 14th.

I show up in Bristol, Connecticut. I am walking through the ESPN newsroom my first day trying to find my room. I don't even know where the hell my cubicle was. And I walked into the newsroom and there was this massive SportsCenter commercial set up with virtually every single person that I had been watching on ESPN.

That were now instantly my colleagues all lined up in a way, you know, singing Don't Walk like Bill Pedo singing Don't Walk. And I remember just thinking to myself, God, what the hell is happening in my life? I remember. And then my first SportsCenter commercial came that fall when Kerry Strug came up. You remember Kerry Strug and how Bella Carolli like, you know, picked her up and carried her after she hurt her ankle in the Olympics in the 96 Summer Olympics. And she agreed to do a SportsCenter commercial where, like, if you look that one up, I think Keith Olbermann has her in his arms. And he passes her to Steve Levy, who passes her to Gary Miller, who passes her to me, who passes her to Carl Ravitch, who passes her to the Michigan State Spartan mascot. And that's the end of the commercial. And that was my first.

I had no lines. I just had Kerry Strug placed in my arms and passed her off. Yeah, Keith passes her to you. Okay. And then you carry her. Gary starts. And then you give her to, I mean, it's quality is not good.

It's probably pretty grainy. Keith is so tall compared to Carl Ravitch. Oh, yeah.

Ravi. And then I think it's Gary Miller. Is it leaves?

Big bag of leaves. Steve Levy. Rich, how fast did you do the first show? My first show was, I believe, March 17th of 1996.

Oh, yeah, you passed off to Larry Beal. About a month ago. I did my first SportsCenter with, about a month.

I did observing. After me, I think Greenie was the first person hired after me, or Chris McKendree was. Or Chris McKendree was hired before me, and Greenie was the one hired after me. And I think he was the first one that they didn't put those newbies, if you will, on SportsCenter.

I threw them on ESPN News that had just been created. That's right. And, yeah. So I got straight on. Are you scared? Well, I'm scared. Mike, let me tell you a story. I love this.

Let me show you something. I believe my first SportsCenter was the Saturday of a round of 32 NCAA tournament weekend, okay? So it's the round of 32, and I'm doing a 7 o'clock Eastern SportsCenter.

So do in your head how many games that were happening that had just finished, okay, on a Saturday. A ton of shot sheets there. A ton of shot sheets. I had about 13 or 14 highlights. And I had only the paperwork, meaning the shot sheets. There would be paperwork where they would describe shot by shot what you're going to see on tape. And that's crucial if you haven't seen the actual highlight. And you have to do it on the fly, and you rely on the information in front of you, and you assume it's edited in a way that the copy that's there to describe the highlight doesn't take too long and run into the next highlight. There's a lot of trust and a lot of back and forth, and the production assistant who cuts it really works so hard at it and relies on you as the anchor to execute it, because their ability to get a merit or a kudo is based on how you read it.

I didn't know that off the start, okay? So I was just, my head was swimming, and I had only seen one of the dozen highlights that I was about to do. And I remember walking down to that studio with my dream about to come true, like I was legitimately about to do Sports Center as a Sports Center anchor at age 26. I remember thinking to myself, I have two choices. I can just suck it up and do my best and let it tea and let it fly, or I can just pee down my leg.

And I think I did both. And Larry Beale was sitting next to me, and I think I did one entire Nick's highlight in Marv Albert's voice. That was one of my things, too, in Reading, is I would do every New York Nick highlight in Marv Albert's voice. Well, it's a good bit, unless you do an entire 90-second highlight, like you don't moderate, like you don't talk in your own way, and then you just throw in one of the highlights out of the six highlights in the single long highlight.

Like mixing in a yes is fine. Right, but not doing the entire thing. And I remember Larry Beale went on camera right after the Nick highlight, and I did the entire score panel, because again, you know, they had the full screen of the graphic of the score and the highlight.

I mean, in the box score, you know, minutia. I think I did that entirely in Marv's voice, like literally start to finish. And Larry was on camera next. I think he was kind of like, OK, who's this new guy?

Why do I have to break him in? I'd love to know that exact date. I think it was if I had to peg it, it was like March 17th or March 20th or something like that of 1996. We had to be able to call in on March 16th one year. So that might have been it. Maybe that was the anniversary. Did we really have Larry call in on that? We did, I was looking it up. He called in on March 16th, 2016.

So it might have been. So that's 20 years? Yeah.

March. So wait a minute. So it's been 27 years since my first SportsCenter? Yes. Yes. Hold on a second. Chris.

It's been 27 years since my first SportsCenter? Yes. With authority. Much better. No, it would have been if you were doing me, you'd have been much better. Much better. The entire thing. Thank you. Yes.

Can we do this whole hour like this? With authority. Hopefully not.

I sound like Jim Rome. Exactly. I mean, Rich, that I can do. Smackfest 29.

Smack off, Rich. Sorry. Okay. Let's take a break here. Wow, that's a long memory lane. I didn't expect to scroll down.

Travis Van Winkle of FUBAR joining us next. Oh, yeah. Look at that shot. Okay.

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Season two's already been picked up. Netflix right here on Roku. Travis Van Winkle of FUBAR here on The Rich Eisen Show. When you first got a call to say, hey, something's up with Arnie and you're part of it or can be part of it, when did that happen for you? Walk me through that moment. I was in Toronto filming a CBS show called Good Sam. And my agents had given me some other auditions to go out for. And I remember I was like, I don't want to go out on these. I want that Arnold show.

And I remember them saying, just go out for these other things. We don't know about the Arnold show yet. And I just had this thing in me that's like, God, I just feel like I'm going to get this show. And I got the call and my agents and my manager all started talking like their best impression of Arnold. They're like, you got the show. Congratulations. It was like, I've gotten better at doing the accent.

They're not so great at it. I have this incredible footage of me in a hotel room in Toronto and being face timing with my agents and manager. It was an incredible moment just to know that I was going to get to work with Arnold. I have respected the man my whole life. I've looked up to him. I've learned from him.

I've watched interviews. I've watched all his films. I've idolized his body. And then to be able to actually share space with him, it was intimidating at first to think like, oh, dang, I'm going to go work with this guy? I've known him my whole life. He doesn't even know who I am. And there's this weird celebrity thing that happens where I've known him forever and built up this expectation.

And then you just have to normalize it. So when I first met him, I just threw everything at him about what I respected. Like right away? Yep. I met him. And I just said, hey, I got to get this out of the way. I said, I respected him for his movies and for his bodybuilding and all these things. And then I felt like I could build a relationship with him. Right. How did he take it from you? Easily.

He's adored everywhere. I think he appreciated it. But that was more for me than for him. For me to get that out of the way so I could even the playing field a little bit. Wouldn't that have been great if he had just reversed it and basically told you about your entire filmography and TV history? That would have blown my mind.

We had an Instagram live not too long ago promoting the show. And I said, Arnold, a lot of people asked me if I was nervous to meet you, but were you nervous to meet me? And he's like, yeah, every time you came in the room, the heat would turn up. But not because I was intimidated, but because your abs. He's like, I haven't seen my abs in 30 years.

He's like, you have amazing abs. Wow. Now that is the highest compliment.

This is very good, Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's not bad. I've been able to refine it a bit. Because I think you're not totally over the top with it.

It does. That sounds very good. Like what nuances have you picked up being around him? What do you got for me?

From the accent specifically? Whatever you got. Whatever you want to tell. You must get this a lot because I would tell if I was hanging out with Arnold Schwarzenegger or working with him, I would get nonstop questions about what that looks like. So here's what I know about him.

He walks around. What I believe is that if you feel respect, you have to share it. So for you, first of all, I want to share that I have connected with my dad over sports for many years. And you've been a part of that on the NFL network and all of your work that you've done.

Thank you. It's been a connecting point for my father and I. So your work is important.

And I haven't seen my abs in 30 years either. So I guess that's another thing I've connected with Arnold. So I'll take that.

I'll take that time. I guess so. What I've learned from him is he gives respect everywhere he goes. He talks about not being self-made. He's like, everyone else has made me. Everyone else has made my success possible. And every event that I've been to, every time he's had to speak publicly, he will go out of his way to make sure everyone in the room feels seen, valued, and heard and respected.

And then he goes on to talk about, you know, his life. But that's something I've learned and I really value that. And the neat thing is like when you see this show, and you've seen the entirety of it, right, Chris? Yeah, me and TJ have ripped through this. Right.

And I'm in process with three kids ripping through it. There's a true lies feel to this thing. You know what I mean? Like this feels like something that's part of his collection. It works. You know what I mean? Well, that was his favorite film.

It is. And he publicly speaks about that often, that that was such a great film for him. And it came after Last Action Hero, which didn't do well. And that didn't sit with him well, you know, having a movie that he really loved and respected not be received. And so true lies came after that. And then true lies put him really back on the map in a big way.

And I believe he reached out to Netflix and said, I want to do a show like that. And so they just made something happen. And now here it is. And now we're here. And for me, if I had to choose one, and I know this is not many people would do that, but the running man for me is, I don't know.

Maybe because again, there's a game show element to it. Richard Dawson's in it as the criminal. Jesse Ventura before he was the mind. Jim Brown, right?

Jim Brown was in it. I was always total recall guy because I was younger and the woman had three boobs. And I'm like, that's the coolest thing. I was thinking it. I wasn't going to say it. I'm glad that you did. I was in high school. I was like, that was the coolest thing in the world.

So out of everything in total recall, it's groundbreaking filmmaking. That's what you've got. That's why I guess you're in high school.

I was in high school. Sharon Stone's in it too. I mean, you know. Yeah. She wasn't the one with the three.

She did not have the three. No, no. But right. Yeah.

She's just in it. Okay. Yeah. Very good.

Anyways, moving on. Travis Van Winkle here on the Rich Isaac show. So when did you, what's your first big break? When did you get here?

I was just telling a story about my first big break literally before you walked out here. What about yours? Yeah.

I'm still waiting for it. Come on. Yeah. Come on.

We'll see. No. Like when you first got into this, this business, like what was it? My first, I would say I got a guest star spot on That's So Raven and that was a big deal for me because it was the first time that it was going to be an episode based around my character. Yes.

Going to be the main guest. And then a year after that I got a movie called Accepted with Justin Long and Jonah Hill and Blake Lively and Tom Shadyac was a producer on there and the movie was called Accepted. And so for me, I'm like, wait a second, it's 2005.

I moved here to LA in 2003 and jumped into the business and I thought, wow, I'm accepted to begin this path. Look at you. And I feel like that was a moment for me. Well then let's just leave that there because if you're going to continue to extrapolate it out that the titles of your shows mean something, FUBAR would probably be a bad one. Yeah. They don't always work. You know what I mean? Like because, you know. But how about this? Yes. Freedom. Okay. Should we do freedom? We can because we can't say the other one. We can't use the other one right here. Okay.

Freedom upended beyond all repair. Look at you. Words back. You can always justify whatever you need to make it work for yourself to continue the narrative that you want.

I like you saying that that way. Do you still get residuals from That's So Raven? Do you get a residual check? Yeah. I think I'm like in the sense category, like I probably get like 50 or 60. Good for you. Yeah.

I'm still like in that. I just got a check from my appearance. I'll call it that. Well actually, star turn on CSI Miami playing a male reporter. I believe that was that one.

Where the check was for three cents, 47 cents fewer than the stamp required to send it to me. It's not bad. Isn't it? It's not bad.

See, I'm with you. I was on CSI Miami for an episode. Is that right? I had a mustache and I don't think I was a good person. You were not?

Yeah. Did Caruso come get you? Did he put you behind bars? Were you that guy? Did Rex Lynn get you? Who got you in that episode? It was Caruso, yeah. Yeah, we had some moments. I actually, I mean it was so long I don't remember. I just remember the mustache and somehow that signified I was a bad person. Oh my gosh.

Travis Van Winkle here on the Rich Eisen Show. So you're from Georgia. Does that mean your sports teams correlate to that as well?

They used to. I used to be a big UGA fan. You know, I was always a Hawks fan and Falcons, all that stuff. You didn't stick with Georgia? Because I mean the last two years would have been great if you're still with UGA and the rest of the group.

What happened? I kind of fell off. I feel like I used to be such a huge sports junkie and I loved it and I was so called to watch it and I was obsessed with it.

And as the years have gone on, the fire isn't just leading me there anymore. I'll have moments where I'll lock into the NBA playoffs or I'll be obsessed with a UFC fighter. Who are you obsessed with right now, the UFC? I mean, I want to see Jon Jones fight Nagano, but I think that they've separated divisions so that's not going to happen. But I kind of just get into every fighter. I appreciate that sport.

It is poetry, man. Those guys have to be multidisciplinary. And if you look at the UFC when it first started, you would have the different disciplines all fighting each other. There's no weight class, no real time period where they fight.

And it was just wild. And now every fighter has to know every discipline. And so it is such a dynamic sport.

That's what I've been more interested in recently. But the NBA is another sport that is just, I'm so impressed with these athletes. Well, I mean, when you're talking about UFC, am I not mistaken, you're in a Roadhouse remake with Conor McGregor? Is that a true story? Is he part of this thing? Yeah. I got to spend some time with him.

And he is similar to Arnold. They just have this thing where they're like, I'm going to make this movie the best. There's going to be a sequel. It's going to make the most money. He just, he's like, I'm going to get back into fighting.

I'm going to get the championship. He's always just talking about being the best. And him and Arnold are buddies and I see why.

And also if you want to learn how to speak with the Arnold accent, saying Conor is a good gateway. It's a Terminator, right? Yeah. That's right. That's right. So yeah, I thought that's where you were going with that one because he's been, you know, John Connor.

I just know that it flows off the tongue and my mom always wants to speak like Arnold and she's terrible at it. And so I say, mom, just say Connor, just start with Connor because everyone does do the top thing and it's like, come on. Yeah. You've got this down.

I mean, I had to speak with a puppet because you watched the series of the event and actually you speak with an Arnold puppet. So I was like, I had to work on it. There we go.

I've talked about like him wanting to like have me impregnate his daughter, but mine goes into Christopher Walken if I let it loose. Yeah. So it's... Be careful. Yeah. There's a line. There's a line between Schwarzenegger morphing into... Walken. Yeah. Walken.

You don't want to go full Walken if you're trying to be. So have you smoked cigars with Arnold? Have you done that? I have.

I have. What's it like smoking cigars with Arnold Schwarzenegger? You know, I'm not a big cigar guy, but because I wanted to just be cool and hang out with him more and on set, I started smoking cigars and man, I'm terrible at it. I just like burn your eyeballs and I feel like I went so hard into my first cigar because I just thought I could, and I had no cigar endurance and I got so sick, but I was just like pushing through, just trying to make it because I was hanging out with Arnold.

But as the season went on, I got better at it, so now I can pace myself. So your first time, Arnold, did he like your cigar? Did you like it? He did not like my cigar, but he always has a really nice selection. Okay. For you, yeah. So did he guide you through it?

Did you- I asked him which one was the lighter one. Okay. Yep. And then I said, give me the little choppy choppy thing.

What do I do with that thing? Technical term. Yeah, I think that's what it's called. And then- Yes.

Yeah. So then you- I lit the thing up. Choppy choppy. Choppy choppy. And you litty lit- Yeah, litty lit it up.

Itself. Then we smoky smoked, yeah. But then you had to understand, did you panic? Like, I am feeling violently ill here, and I can't show it, right?

I mean, your acting skills will have to take over here with Arnold. Yeah, I definitely put on a little bit of a show of like, yeah, I mean, he's cool. Everything's great. When it started- at first it was, because at first you get a little bit of that cigar buzz where you're like, this is- life is awesome. Like, life is great.

And then it took a turn, and then it's like, life wasn't so great, but I had to pretend like life was great. And then eventually I just had to put it down, and he's like, pace yourself. Oh, he saw it. You'd think he'd see it.

He did. So I'm learning. You know, I'm learning.

Okay. I just want to be great at smoking cigars. Season two, you'll be a pro, yeah. By season two, you'll be, you know, searching for the predator.

It'll be fantastic. With that thing just down to the nub, the whole bit. I never thought that I would want to be good at smoking cigars, but that's- Amen. You gotta be careful with those things. If you don't smoke them normally, you gotta be very careful.

Certainly around someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know. That's like trying to hit home runs, you know, with Aaron Judge, like, let me just swing for the fences right here. And you don't want to just hit yourself in your, you know, in your follow through. Baby steps.

Travis Van Winkle here, FUBAR available for season two already. Congratulations on all of that. Come back. Come back anytime you want. Say hi to your father for me. I will.

I will. I just got to take him to the Indy 500 for his 65th birthday. Hey! Okay, what was that like? Incredible. Because race cars, that's his lane. He loves that stuff.

Okay. For me, I thought we were going to NASCAR, and I got them, oh, this isn't... My dad loves it, and we got to go into the pits, we got to ride in the actual cars around the track. Which car did you get to ride in? Do you remember? We went 200 miles an hour.

So whatever. In the Indy cars. We were in the Indy cars. No, I just- any specific?

Any drivers specific? No, no. No, they have, on the day before the race, they basically just have a whole thing set up where I don't even know who the driver is, but you just...

So what did you say, Chris? Was it the two-person? Because we've done that with Mario Andretti. Yeah, we did the two-person with Mario, but we didn't do it in the brickyard.

We did it in Long Beach, which is a road course where there are things like quick turns that come up very quickly. And I rode in that one with Mario Andretti, after you had ridden in it, right? I had done it years and years before. And then I finally got sick.

I got to do it. And sort of like, you were smoking a cigar with Arnold, I'm like, when it first got in there, I'm like, this isn't that bad. I think I got it. Then we got around the first turn and I'm like violently ill, it's the same thing. And I'm kind of having to stay cool because I know there's a GoPro on me and I don't want to like... There it is, right there.

There I am right there. And I'm just trying to stay cool, but I am screaming inside. And then just saying to myself, okay, I got to live in the moment. Mario Andretti is driving me around the Long Beach Grand Prix course and I should just enjoy this. And then I'm sitting there thinking, how old is this guy for real? Like mid-70s.

What the hell am I doing? Wow. Yeah. Wow. And is this before the cars...

I know they didn't used to have the next... Yeah, the Hans. This is with all the safety precautions in there. Got you. Yeah, yeah.

Got you. Because that was the main thing that I was so happy about was they strapped your neck in where you can't... Plus, we weren't going 200. We weren't getting 200. Yeah, we weren't going that fast.

Because again, there's no like long ass straightaway. But you were going up on the wall and the turns and everything like that. It was wild. And right out of the pit, they just... Oh, yeah.

They hit it. It was incredible because they can't hear you, but they do have the GoPro, but I definitely screamed with joy. Oh, joy. Okay. Oh, my God. I've jumped out of planes before. I mean, I've done... Oh, look at us. Look at me. What am I talking about? It was exciting.

The torque was the thing that I did not expect. But my dad, he had the best time because we got to meet the drivers. Awesome. Oh, that's great. We got to be right there on the pit during the race. It was a moment.

That's awesome. Yeah, because again, I wanted to make sure that I was as cool as I could be for Mario Andretti. So when it was all over, they handed me the milk and I'm like, I'm going to show Mario just in case he heard me screaming in the back seat. I did it in one swig, just downed it, like shotgunned it. And I hope you're not lactose intolerant. Well, I took my pill first. No.

Like, whatever it takes to look cool right now. That's what it was like. Now they'll give the guys almond milk or oat milk or whatever you want. You can request your milk. Can you really do that now?

That was my question. Like, well, if you're lactose intolerant, that's going to be awful for a couple days. That would be, by the way, the most groundbreaking Indy 500. The first lactose intolerant winner of the Indy 500. The most daring thing that this driver did all day was drink the milk without taking it. Drinking milk. Daring.

Anaphylactic shock in victory lane. The first ever. Okay.

And that's the bricks. Did he really? No. Dude, your dad. What's your dad's name? Chaz. Chaz. Charles, but they call him Chaz. Or Chazmo, whatever you want to call him. Chazmo Van Winkle. I know. My God, what a name. Shout out to Chaz. My dad's name was Joel. You know what I mean?

Well, you can spice it up. Joel's Mo. Joel's Mo. At TV Dub on Twitter, at Travis Van Winkle on Instagram, streaming right now on Netflix.

Second season of FUBAR, second season to come, Netflix available right here on Roku. Thanks for coming on. Let's do this more often. Thanks for having me.

You got it. Travis Van Winkle right here on The Rich Eisen Show. We will wrap up the show and tell you what's coming up for tomorrow's weak rapper in a moment. For decades, Rolling Stone has set the bar for entertainment publications. Today, Rolling Stone music now takes over in podcast form. Songwriter and producer Jamie Hartman reacts to the Ed Sheeran verdict. You need to create something new. And of course, you're going to use traditional parts to get there. Are you going to sue the Rolling Stones for making a samba out of sympathy for the devil?

You can sue Elvis Presley for writing bars and all, but it's like saying you're not allowed to use a pencil to create a piece of art. Rolling Stone music now, wherever you listen. I've got my residuals, and if you don't mind, I'd like to crow about my career through my residual checks to you sitting right here. I've got four envelopes, which one through four you choose. Which one do you think? Let's pick number two first.

Number two first. Here we go. Here we go. Billy Bob Thornton.

What's the oldest residual checks that you have? Probably from like Knott's Landing and Matlock stuff like that. Come on. Oh yeah.

It's $0.15 all the time. Yeah, from Matlock. From Matlock and Knott's Landing. Oh yeah. It's like one scene or something in the early 80s.

Okay. Well, this one is from, let's see, right here. This one is from CSI Miami Caged.

Nice. I can't believe, this is insane, Billy. This is nuts. Is this a real one? This is a real one.

From Syndication, $153. Wow. Nice job. Nice job.

This is a record, Billy. Wow. I'm telling you.

I've got to open these up more in front of you. I'm telling you. You can actually afford to send this one in to do cash. So usually there must be a decimal point off.

It's usually $1.53. Wow. I know, right?

What's Caruso making if I'm making $153? Here we go. Billy Bob Thornton, you're my good luck charm, man.

This is unbelievable. I've got a bad feeling about this one, though. This is for CSI Miami Deep Freeze. Oh, Deep Freeze.

Okay. The other episode, Caged, was for $153. Deep Freeze, appropriately named, $3.09, everybody. There you go.

And how ironic that your name is Rich. That's right. Knott's Landing, huh?

That's the oldest one you got? Yeah. I was like a friendly rancher or something on there. I had my scene with Ted Shackelford.

Yes, that's right. You were officially called a timberman. The timberman?

Yeah, you were a timberman. Oh, yeah. Wow. On Matlock, you are a pawn shop clerk. Yeah.

Pawn shop clerk. I remember that one. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that was a lot of fun back in the day, back here on The Rich Eisen Show, 844-204 Rich, number to dial here on the program.

That was fun with Travis Van Winkle. I mean, have you ever been in a situation where you're trying to impress somebody and suddenly you're not feeling very well, whether it's drinking or smoking a cigar or something like that? Yeah. Every day here, Rich.

Who knows? I see you wearing your blue shirt, and I just can't keep up. It just reminds me of that one time when I was with my fraternity brothers.

You can't. My fraternity brothers in Michigan, and many of them would dip, and they were like, how about you? And I'm like, I've never dipped in my entire life, ever. Like from that French dip, name a dip, I'm pretty much not doing it. Yeah, you dip, we dip.

Exactly, right. So somebody flipped me a tin of Kodiak, and I'm like, really? And so I'm like, okay, it's fraternity brothers, they don't think I can, so give it a try.

I would see how they would pack it, hold the tin, and then use their forefinger, would slap the top to pack it, and then open it. And so I'm like, am I really going to do this? Am I really going to do Chewing Tobacco for real? Have I told this story before? I've heard this before. So I've been... Because it all looks cool.

I know. They show me how to pack it, and I'm like, so grab it here, and then slap. I didn't know, I think I had sort of the flexibility in my index finger to do it. So I'm thinking to myself, I can't believe I'm going to do this. I'm going to get sick, but at least they know I'm going to give it a try. I'm going to get my... Oh, yeah. You know ahead of time you're going to get sick.

Yeah. And I'm like, okay, but at least my fraternity brothers will respect me for trying. Like this kid from New York, now you're in the state of Michigan, around all these beer drinkers, and guys with their jaw in their mouth all the time. I'm like, all right, finally, grab the tin, and I try to pack it, and I just go like this, and the tin opens up, and the jaw flies in the air. And believe it or not, I don't know how the hell this happened, some of it landed in my lower eyelid. That had to have burned so bad.

A complete total. Want to talk about FUBAR? Complete total disaster, the room filled with probably a half dozen fraternity brothers, like literally on the edge of their couch, like, I can't wait to see what I'm trying. Like if this was this day and age, phones would have been out.

Oh, that would have been everywhere. You know, like video would have been having, you know. They hysterical laugh, and it's my own memory that of what I could see because my right eye was burning. That's the sort of thing I think of when I hear Travis Van Linkle talking about how I'm smoking cigars, he's probably inhaling, you know.

Coughing and Arnold's just laughing at him. If you're not someone who's used to dip, man, I had the same thing. One summer in Pittsburgh, I worked security at Three Rivers Stadium, so after all the players would leave, you know, we kind of cut through the dugout and there would be, you know, sunflower seeds, bubble gum, dip. So I took some snuff, went to the bus stop, I'm on Boulevard of the Allies and Wood Street in Pittsburgh waiting on a bus, and I'm trying to look cool, pack it out, clap, clap, clap, put it in. Within 30 seconds, the entire city of Pittsburgh started to spinning, and I cut that bus home.

I lived on Mount Washington, man, and I fell face first into the bed, and I thought the world was going to end because that nicotine, if I wasn't a cigarette smoker or anything, that nicotine hits you, bro. Oh my goodness. Were you in your Foot Locker uniform? No, I was working security for the summer at Three Rivers Stadium, so no. So were you in your security outfit? No, I usually changed out before I left. I was wondering, it's like if you're spinning on a bus and somebody's like, man, that ref is losing his mind right now. Or if you're that security guard, like, man, I don't think that place is too secure because he's spinning on the bus.

You had to change that security outfit just in case someone you yelled at during the game caught you outside. You didn't want them to know it was you. Did you ever smoke cigars, Mike? You must have had it at the moment in your life where you didn't.

Just the fact that you said that, yes. Howie Long gave me a really dark cigar once. I thought I was cool. Avocado room, green room at Fox. With him?

Oh, with everybody. Boy, they smoke indoors at Fox? Oh, in the old days? Oh, we're talking like the 90s. Yeah. Before, I guess, there were ordinances?

It's Harry and them with smoke on the set. Cigars? Yes. In the old, old days.

We're going back. How would they do that, though? Because you come back on camera and then all of a sudden it looks like that old sports reporter show, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, like with Dick Shab.

You know, birth sugar. I got so sick. Like, I was the T.J.

The spinning. Yeah. But if Howie Long's giving you a cigar, you're not saying, I don't know about Howie. That's kind of like Arnold. I was driving home. He's an action hero. Mike is our last action hero. I am the last one.

There isn't. That's funny. But yeah, I was sicker than hell. And I had to like fake it in front of them. Not like Jimmy Johnson.

They're all sitting there. I'm like, I got to like fake that I'm not like going to puke all over the floor. And yeah. And then I had to drive home like that.

And I was like. Smoking on the set. Oh, the old days.

You can watch those shows from the 70s. Everyone smokes cigarettes. Everywhere. Well, I know.

Every night we do it during the news. Right. Yeah, you know. Which is insane. And you know, we got some cigars sent to us from the Kentucky Derby there. Yeah, I know.

Good old Tom Person. I know. Let me send them to us. I'm afraid to smoke. I can smoke them now, though. We can do it in here, though. All right. Right. Yeah. Remember that one year like I couldn't even light a birthday candle in here? Yeah.

They wouldn't let us. Yeah. This guy has candles every day now. Well, you're thinking about that. Oh, my God.

We are not near any smoke. Wait a minute. How do we start the show every day with an El Segundo city of El Segundo violation? It's possible. Candles are illegal. Nobody's checked on that?

Nobody's checked on it. Well, we have an extinguisher right next to me. So it's fine. Plus a volunteer fireman from the 80s.

Yeah, it's true. Mike's 80s. Yeah. Mike.

I don't remember anything. Mike, you're amazing. Wait a minute.

We're going to get shut down the mall broadly. Thanks. Volunteer fireman. I was rich.

I was in EMT the first day. I didn't know. So did you ever?

Did you ever? No, not at all. Okay. New Jersey's a small town.

Small town. Mike. Yeah. And the fact that he does audio now instead of any of those jobs has saved lives. Well, we just got to be thankful he got bullied when he was a kid and not let him play sports because otherwise he wouldn't have found this path.

Honestly, Mike's career path not only keeps people happy, but it keeps it. It saved lives. Countless lives he has saved by getting out of the emergency services industry delivered a baby. You delivered two babies? Yes. I have a commendation from one of them. Okay. But the other one, you've got a condemnation.

That's the way it sounds to me. Only one of them. You got a commendation for the other one.

I condemn you. First story is one of the funniest stories and I have people that can call in and corroborate. Have you got a minute? Can you tell it fast? No.

No. This is a story that's got to take about five minutes. It was an experience on the radio for me trying to tell them what was going on. Oh my God.

And me being 18 and a half years old as a cop knowing nothing of what's going on other than the fact that I see blood and a head crowning. What's that baby doing right now? Oh my God. I wish we knew. I don't know. I bet babies lie. Track it down.

It's a seven and a half month. His name is Terzell. He lives in Iowa.

With his giant dog. Shout out to Terzell. Yeah, that's right. Really funny.

Okay, you really try for that another game. Really, really funny. You can go home now. That's right. Thank you.

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