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The creator of Pro Football Talk and also from Peacock Television and so much more with NBC Sports, our friend Mike Florio back here on the program. How you doing, Mike? Good. Have you ever changed the oil on your car? I have not, sir.

Any car? I haven't either. Nope.

Before that be perceived as some sort of a flex by me, I have not either. No. Let me just say this, Mike. Back in the day, way back in the day when I had a flowing flock of Seagulls type Maine, Kenny Maine took the day off on RPM tonight on ESPN2. I hosted one singular RPM tonight and started by saying I'm the only person in the history of this program to host it and also have to call AAA to change a tire. That's how I started the program. I have changed a tire. I have done that and lived to tell about it, but I've never changed oil. And my dad's attitude, even though we did not have significant means, his attitude was there is someone out there who relies upon that work to feed their family.

So when it's time to change the oil on your car, go pay that guy to do it. Love it. Well done. So let's just jump into what you think happened in Buffalo last week with digs and what happened on that day of organized team activities, Mike.

I think the one thing that we don't know and won't know and could be an ideal subject for that old sitcom formula that we see from time to time where act one is one person's version of an event, act two is the other person's version, and act three is the truth. Because something went down last Tuesday that resulted in Staphon Diggs leaving the building. Now, did he storm out? Was he invited to leave? Was he kicked out? Remember when AB quit on the box and we thought he just stormed off and then we found out Bruce Arians told him to get the F out.

So I'd love to know the catalyst and what preceded it. Was it at the conclusion of whatever meetings they were having, somebody got exasperated from the team side and asked him to leave in response to something he said or did, or whether he left in response to something they said or did. They found a tenuous truce. They found a middle ground for one day of minicamp practice.

They camped for the third day. And the question is, can they hold it together through training camp, through the season? He really doesn't have any options.

That's the reality. I mean, if he was the one who left, all it takes is a five-minute explanation to Staphon Diggs that there's really nothing you can do. They're not going to trade you. You play for them or you play for no one. And if you don't play for them, you owe them $33.6 million in money you've already received but you haven't earned.

So that gets the guy to the position pretty quickly where he's going to show up. He doesn't want to pay back that $33.6 million pre-tax. Then he's got to go to the IRS and get his taxes back.

It's a major pain in the butt. So if he's the one who walked out, I can understand why he walked back in. Regardless, they need each other. The bills are under even more pressure now. And we'll see how happy he is once this season comes to an end, however it ends. Now, you're the third straight football guest I've had on this week that I've asked this question to. And I don't think this is just the doldrums of late June type NFL focused question. This is one that I'm latching onto because it truly can resonate into the playing season when toe meets ball if there is a lack of same page read between Pro Bowl All-Pro quarterback and his Pro Bowl All-Pro wide receiver for a team that has come up way short of their expected goal year in and year out the last couple years. I don't know how this doesn't resonate into the season somehow, Mike. Absolutely.

Think about it. Week one, Bills at Jet. The ESPN ABC crew is going to be told to have one camera on Staphon Diggs everywhere he is. And that's going to be the broadcast plan for every single Bills game this year. Because we know there's a reason to keep an eye on Staphon Diggs.

There is a point that he reaches where he blows a little bit of a fuse. We saw it last year and he told Dan Patrick the week of Super Bowl that what he did at the end of the playoff loss to the Bengals was the product of a culmination of frustrations he was experiencing. But there's been some reporting out there that he's frustrated with the offense, his role in it, his say in play calling. And it comes down to Ken Dorsey, year two of the offensive coordinator.

It's one of the reasons why I'm a firm believer. When you have a franchise quarterback, when you have one of the best in the game, man, it's good to have an offensive head coach. Because when you have a defensive head coach, the team does well. The offensive coordinator ends up getting a job as a head coach somewhere else.

And then you've got to make a transition to a new coordinator and hope it goes smoothly. And maybe it didn't last year from Brian Deball to Ken Dorsey. So they've got to work that out and that puts pressure on Dorsey. It puts pressure on the coach, Sean McDermott. It puts pressure on the GM, Brandon Bean. It puts pressure on Allen. It puts pressure on Diggs.

It puts pressure on everybody. In the 20 years that I've done this with the NFL Network and you've done it for as long as well, Mike, I don't recall a glut of talented running backs sitting ATC at the crib in late June like we're seeing right now. From Dalvin Cook to Zeke Elliott, Kareem Hunt, Leonard Fournette.

How do these guys all land with gigs when it comes down to it? If people stay healthy the way that the running back position is currently being run. I think we're at a considerable crossroads when it comes to this position right now that we haven't seen in a while. Well, you know, one of the strategies for the guys who are available is just wait for the inevitable injury because it will happen. And then all of a sudden your market, which may be at a certain level now, goes up when desperation becomes a factor. But, you know, Rich, this is simple supply and demand. And it intersects with a system that as of 2011 really makes it harder for running backs to get paid when they are doing their best work.

It's low salaries on the way in. And if you've got a first round running back, you can pick up that fifth year option and then franchise tag. And that's six years the squad on his right. And then if he's still really good, you can do a seventh year via second franchise tag.

And the franchise tag is held down. It's actually dropped in recent years because the top of the market isn't consuming the same percentage of the salary cap that it used to because running backs aren't getting paid. And short of guys just saying, you know what, I'm not going to play running back anymore.

And I think there is wisdom to it. Ben Tate, who played years ago, was out of Auburn's second round pick at the Tech. And he said at one point, if I had to do it all over again, I would have played defensive back. Because when you're a great young athlete, you're playing youth football, what happens? The coach says, let's give this kid the ball. And the next thing you know, that kid's a running back. And it's hard to get out of that position even though it capture earnings and it capture career length in the NFL. But we've been trying to come up with ideas.

Chris Sims had a suggestion and I've been pulling that thread over the past few months. Basically a league-wide fund that would reward young running backs as they go for having big yardage, lots of touchdowns, fantasy football darlings, have something that doesn't count against the team's cap, but just recognize that these guys are important and get them paid. Now that doesn't solve the problem of the veteran who can't find a job. But it does solve the problem that I think is out there that guys that do the job well just don't get paid what they should.

They don't. And I don't blame running backs for what Zeke did. Remember a couple years ago going to Cabo and Zeke doesn't, you know, there's got to be a piece of the pie and you got to work together. And I don't blame him for holding out for what he did. He had a great contract. He had a contract that was so good that the Cowboys would have loved to have ripped it up last year, but they couldn't. Because they had a guarantee structure that kicked in a year in advance. He got a great contract.

He would have been cut last year, but for the contract that he signed. Unbelievable. Mike Florio here on the Rich Eisen Show from Pro Football Talk. Let's talk gambling a little bit here, Mike. Now this comes from, you know, somebody who's a league employee, me.

That I, every year, every summer, we get nonstop emails, we get nonstop human resources videos that we are required to view. Documents to, you know, e-sign and stuff like that about the gambling policy in the NFL. So this may sound naive or what have you, but you are clearly on this story and talking to people who are talking to players and things like that. How do the players, young players, not know you can't gamble on your team or any team in the NFL? How is this like, we didn't know, so we shouldn't be held as accountable as we're being held to? It strains credulity for me, Mike.

So, you know, I guess explain it to me. There's two levels to this. I think that any player out there should realize with nothing more than a five-second conversation, never bet on anything related to the NFL in any way, shape, or form. Period. Ever.

Boom. Where it becomes problematic and where it's become very confusing, Rich, for you and all the other non-players, you can't bet on any sports at all, ever. No March Madness brackets. I've heard of people getting summarily fired for being involved in for-pay, March Madness brackets, non-players. Fantasy football, nothing more than a $250 prize for the full season. Anything more than that, you're gone.

No questions asked. And I've heard there have been plenty of employees, non-players, who get fired by the league, by the teams, and we don't know about it because we don't tune into a game, and where is that person? They're very aggressive about the rule for non-players that you can't engage in any gambling on any sport at any time. Why, Rich?

Why? Do you think that the NFL, which has full control over the gambling policy that relates to players, the union has conceded this isn't part of the CBA, the NFL, in its power to control the integrity of the game, has the ability to create this policy and we have nothing to do with it. Why did the NFL let players gamble on any sport? Why not just have players under the same rules as everyone else? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to explain it to everyone if the rule was you can't bet on any sport at any time, any place?

That would clear up so much of this confusion because I think that's where it comes from. I think guys like Jamison Williams didn't know that if you stand outside the Detroit Lions facility on the street, you can pull up your phone and hit the FanDuel app and bet on NBA basketball, but the moment you walk through the door, it's an affront to the integrity of the game in your suspended six games. That makes no sense. Why is that rule in place? Just treat the players like the non-players. And from what you're talking about with folks who either talk to new players or folks who represent the players, is this a problem collegiately where they gamble and then they come to the pros and they're not familiar with the new rules? Is that part of it too?

I'm just wondering how prevalent this is. Certainly since part of your reporting, you heard somebody lost $8 million gambling, a member of the NFL player last year losing $8 million for real? Think about these devices we carry around with us everywhere we go and all these little buttons and all these little apps. What if you spent your whole life using Twitter and then all of a sudden you get a job after you get out of college and there are certain ways you can use Twitter that are illegal? What are you talking about? I've been using Twitter for years. It's been five years since the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to allow states, one of the time that they so choose, to have legalized gambling. So these draft kings and fandlaps are everywhere. In West Virginia, you play blackjack online. You can do all this stuff online.

You hit the button and off you go. And I think that there is a culture shock for the guys who have been doing it for years. And I think that it takes more aggressive educational efforts, especially if you're going to thread this needle between players being allowed to gamble when not at work on non-NFL events and non-players being prohibited.

It makes it more important to send a message the right way. Rich, I've heard from coaches, I've heard from people with teams who have very strong criticism about the quality of the education that the NFL is engaging in. Look, I've been involved in the training of employees when I was practicing law. There is a fundamental difference between education for the sake of getting a piece of paper that someone signs to say they received the policy and true meaningful education aimed at getting people to understand what the rule really is. I had one coach tell me, look, this presentation is 45 minutes long.

It only needs to be five minutes long. They overcomplicate it. The message doesn't get through to the players. The teams are left to send the message and the smart teams are doing it. But it would be so much easier if the rule just was, hey, if you're going to play in the NFL, you have to suspend your desire to be the next great sports gambling tycoon until after you're done playing in the NFL. I'll tell you what, man, if they send the same people who I deal with with the NFL network or the same human resources individuals, this thing would be wrapped up in two seconds. Do you know the conspiracy theory, though?

Chris is trying to get a spot in the top five. And I think it makes sense. And the more I talk to people about it, the less it feels like a conspiracy theory.

It just sounds like common sense. The sports books want the NFL to let these guys bet because they are really rich and they're young and they're dumb enough to think they're going to win. So what's going to happen? Eight million dollars later, the sports books are making back some of the money they give to the NFL and sponsorships. You know what? When Sims told me, I thought, boy, that's crazy.

That's even too crazy for me. And it's like, why else would you? I mean, that's the question I'd ask to the commissioner right now. If we were sitting across the table from each other, I'd say, why do you let players gamble on any sport book?

You have the full and complete power with the stroke of a pen to take this away. Why are you doing it? Yeah, I hear you. Ask him.

Ask him. It's FaceTime Roger Goodell right now. Let's talk gambling. Hey, RG1, let's talk gambling.

That's exactly what I'm going to do with my free time. Hey, you know what? They hate me because I keep pushing this, but I'm trying to do everybody a favor who's a stakeholder of the game. Because the last thing we need is a Tim Donahue scam.

Of course. Or some other set of facts that we don't know of. I've been trying to imagine every possible way that this could collapse on the NFL and warn people about it. And of course, you get called Chicken Little for doing it, but somebody needs to be thinking creatively about all the bad stuff that can happen. And you know the league doesn't want that, too.

You know that. And you know there's a lot of hand-wringing in the front offices about, you know, nobody wants that. But here's the problem. When you're stuffing your pockets with millions from the sportsbook, it's kind of hard to walk that tightrope.

I mean, really, how do you have the moral authority to tell people what to do and what not to do when you've got your... What was it? It was seven exclusive sportsbook partners a couple of years ago. I mean, they're taking every dollar they can, and they've got every right to do it, but it makes it hard to be properly concerned about the other side of the equation. I think it would be a lot easier for the league to fend off the potential wolves that could attack if the NFL's position was we have a clear firewall. We're not taking a dime from any of the sportsbooks. We're not involved with this in any way. We're not going to let any of our owners own a percentage of DraftKings or FanDuel or whatever. We want nothing to do with it.

I think it makes it easier to guard against all the bad stuff that can happen if you're not trying to straddle that line. Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk here on the Rich Eisen Show. So, let's just jump on the last one for you. What do you got for me on the Niners quarterback scenario? As we're currently standing here, sitting here, having this conversation, everybody's breaking for training camp, how it's going to play out, the whole business. What do you got for me on that? Well, Brock Purdy, if he's healthy, and if he's not healthy, I think it'll be Sam Darnall.

How about that? I think they really like Sam Darnall. When they started putting out the word, and it was Matt Mayoko of NBC Sports Bay Area who said that Sam Darnall may be the most talented throw of the football the 49ers have ever had, and people lost their minds.

And it's like, well, he didn't make that up. He's getting that from Kyle Shanahan. And not long after that, Kyle Shanahan said it. And that's to get people comfortable with the idea that the guy that they gave up three first-round picks and a third-round pick to get is going to be the odd man out. But they're not going to trade him because QB3 could end up being QB1. That's what happened last year. They've been cursed at the quarterback position. And Rich, let's play it out to March of next year.

I think you're going to see, unless the Vikings re-sign him by then, and they can't use the franchise tag on him the way his contract is structured, you're going to see a potential tug of war between Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay for Kirk Cousins next March. How about that? Mark that down. They can't quit him.

They can't quit him. I know. Who said that? Was that Daniel Jeremiah who said on this show that if you're anybody involved with the Shanahans, you have to pay fealty to Kirk Cousins. You know, like that. I think somebody said that.

But here's the thing I have on that front, okay? And this is why I'm with you, that it's Purdy's gig if he's healthy. Because in this day and age, okay, if you've got a guy who can perform at an elite level at the quarterback spot, who is on a seventh round contract, and you've got a team that's ready to win now, filled with people that you need to re-sign to monster contracts because they are pro bowlers at their position.

That's how you win. And the one person, you had mentioned how fans might wake up and say, the guy that you paid all those first round draft choices for isn't even playing. It really is an audience of one that they really have to worry about, and that's Jed York. And he loves his coach and his general manager, as you know. So as long as they're making NFC championship games with Purdy or Jimmy G, doesn't matter if Lance, you know, isn't the guy anymore. And so if it's Purdy, I don't know why they would even want to go and Kirk Cousins and pay him $40 million a year when you've got a guy who's playing like Cousins on a seventh round contract. That's like the dream come true if you're the 49ers. It all comes down to whether or not Brock Purdy can stay healthy wire to wire this year.

I think that's the ultimate proof. And we've gone year after year after year where there have been these issues with the help of the 49ers quarterback. But one year it wasn't an issue, it was the year they went to the Super Bowl. And I'm a firm believer that if they had just waited to sign Kirk Cousins, that's why Kyle Shanahan didn't evaluate Patrick Mahomes in 2017, could have had him, didn't even look at him. Was waiting for Kirk Cousins in 2018, got talked into Jimmy Garoppolo when the season was just falling apart. His first year with the 49ers, we got to do something.

And Garoppolo was available for a second round pick, so they went in that direction. I think if they'd have waited for Cousins, given the fact Cousins never gets injured, Cousins never gets injured. Cousins is durable, that's his superpower as it relates to, and also playing at 1 o'clock Eastern. But I don't have one of his Super Bowl wins by now. And it wouldn't be because of anything Kirk Cousins did, it's because he's good enough with that incredible team that they'd have around him. His other superpower is being paid like a Major League Baseball Cy Young pitcher, you know.

He's paid like Garrett Cole, you know. That's another superpower. Mike, thanks for the time. Let's chat shortly, have a great July 4th week in the summer and we'll tee it up soon.

Thanks again. You got it, Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk. I wrote that down, by the way. What? McVeigh and Shanahan tug of war for Cousins.

I don't know. Stafford, if Stafford brother, if Stafford, everybody thinks Stafford shot, right? Because of last year. And everybody thinks that, you know what, they're... The Rams are tanking? No, no. That's just me.

No, no, I know you are. Come on. Let's see how it works out with Stafford this year. That one, I could understand if Stafford is suddenly physically not the same guy who won a championship and no look to pass through a needle eye to cup a cup in the Super Bowl. If that guy doesn't exist anymore, I could understand if Cousins is available, they go there. Certainly if Stetson Bennett doesn't come around. But why would they spend all that money on Kirk Cousins if Brock Purdy is in year three of a seventh round contract and they can pay... Name all of their all-stars in Pro Bowlers that are gonna need that second contract or third contract that they can pay them because Purdy is making nothing, bupkis.

What do you mean, like 580 or something? That's so low. Do you know? So, that conversation, pal, is a month away from really coming back in full bloom. That is a major summer story. Sorry, Brock Purdy is making 870,000 this year.

Right. And so, have they paid Bosa again? You know what I mean? You gotta pay a lot of these guys. You gotta pay a ton of these guys. And if your quarterback's making 800 grand and you're making NFC Championship games anyway, what does Jed York care?

That you gave up all those draft choices because it seems like Lynch and Shanahan are hitting on a ton of other ones. Fred Warner's gotta get paid. You know what I mean? These guys... You gotta pay guys. Nick Bosa's up.

He's in year five. You know what I mean? You gotta get paid and you can pay them if Purdy's making that and he's your guy.

Yeah, Nick Bosa's gonna break the bank soon, I would imagine. Let's take a break. I've got a great top five list. Pop culture, movie related, it is based off of news of today's big 80s movie anniversary. You're gonna love this.

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Yes. So you're the are you the lone? I'm the second oldest. I had some power. But you're the lone girl?

I'm the lone girl. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I played a lot of sports growing up.

What'd you play? Soccer. Okay. Yeah. I played on all boys teams. Karate Kid, she plays soccer.

Oh yeah. I had to pretend to be bad in Karate Kid. I had to pretend, I didn't know what I was doing, but I was better than Ralph Macchio at soccer. Way. And probably a karate too.

What it all got down to it. Of course, I didn't train. I'm sure it would have been much better if I had trained. That wasn't part of your role. No, it wasn't.

In the film. So that was- I could have kicked his ass. You could have swept the leg, you could have done all of that stuff. What was it like for you being a new actress in the world and getting to be in the Karate Kid right off the bat? What was that like for you, Elizabeth? Well, I had been in the business for about five years before that, so it wasn't this sudden experience. Okay. I was the Burger King girl. I did a lot of commercials.

Okay. I sort of slowly, slowly, slowly learned my way into it. So you were then, you just showed up on the set of Karate Kid. Did you have any idea how special that movie was when you were doing it?

No, none. I was worried. I thought it sounded a little strange. The Karate Kid. Yeah. And Ralph being Ralph, I didn't think that he would have any credibility as a karate expert. Wow.

Ralph had no idea he was waking up today, he's going to get thrown under an Elizabeth's huge bus. Sorry. No, that's okay.

I mean, hey, it is what it is. No, it was amazing though to see that movie actually stand the test of time. All my kids have watched it. I love what it says about sports and about the relationship between Miyagi and Daniel. It's so beautiful. And so there's so much that's good about it.

Elizabeth Shue, so unlikable. I just like now, couldn't put words together that day. It's five years ago, five years ago, six years ago, actually. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry.

Grainger is the right product for you. Call clickgrainger.com or just simply stop by. We just, for our radio listening audience, just played in our Roku channel only segment, a snippet of Elizabeth Shue from 2017, talking about The Karate Kid, which came out 39 years ago today. Dude, 1984 is when The Karate Kid came out.

That's crazy. That's almost a 40 year old movie. In 1984, a 40 year old movie was Casablanca.

I mean, it's nuts, man. One movie holds up, the other doesn't. Have you ever seen Casablanca? No.

Okay. So we were talking about it before the show today. The Karate Kid about a kid from New Jersey moving out to the valley here in Southern California with his mom, right? He's getting bullied in high school and he finds himself and his chi and his confidence in karate with Mr. Miyagi being the one to show him the way, even though he had no idea he was being shown the way by painting fences and waxing hoods of cars. Child labor. Pretty much.

Well, I mean, Daniel-san was pushing back a little bit saying, you know, what am I doing here? And so this has led me to this idea, a top five list of the top five high school movies of the eighties. Why? I don't know.

I don't know why. But the eighties were chock full of movies involving high school and high schoolers. It's tough to find five. The Karate Kid doesn't make the list.

Wow. Doesn't make the list. Upset. So I'm using it as an inspiration, if you wouldn't mind giving me a little bit of music here. Just give me the usual music. There you go.

There we go. Top five high school movies of the 1980s, and it starts with number five and a name that you're going to hear quite a bit. John Hughes wrote this film and I had many choices on this front to start off. I'm going to go with a Molly Ringwald movie because I was head over heels nuts about Molly Ringwald in high school in 1986, the year I graduated from high school. I'm going with pretty in pink. Number five right here about Andy, who she was playing and Ducky, played by John Cryer.

Just friends. Ducky was in love with Andy, who found love in a preppy named Blaine, played by Andrew McCarthy. And of course, any eighties movie worth its salt has to include the a-hole played by James Spader, which he did in this film. And this movie, as all of them have great soundtracks, I'm going to name for each one of these, a great song from it, from pretty in pink. The song involved in pretty in pink was, oh God, here it is. I wrote it down. No, here it is. If you leave by orchestral maneuvers in the dark, if you remember, you remember that song? No. Yeah.

Folks who hear it will not be able to hear it again the rest of the day. So that's pretty in pink. Number five on the list. Number four on the list about an individual, just like Andy and pretty in pink.

A lot of these involve seniors and senioritis about going off to college. A young man named Joel, who was going to Highland Park High School, applying to Princeton, had his life turned upside down in risky business. 1983, Tom Cruise bursting on the scene in his underwear. The song from this movie, as we all know, was old time rock and roll by Bob Seger. Also Depeche Mode.

Anybody who remembers the train scene with Rebecca De Mornay knows about Depeche Mode music. He played an individual of the evening, if you will, that Joel got involved with. Tell me you've seen Risky Business, Chris, right? It's been a while. And Rebecca De Mornay's John, played by Joey Pants, Joe Pantoliano.

Unbelievable. Great movie, Tom Cruise, Risky Business. Number three involves another senior in high school with a serious case of senioritis two months before graduation, a young man named Ferris Bueller decides to wake up and act sick and take a day off. Only number three. 1986, John Hughes.

Okay. Number three, TJ. Oh, by the way, also Risky Business, one of the folks in Risky Business, friend Miles played by Curtis Armstrong. People might know his booger from Revenge of the Nerds. Ferris Bueller's Day Off, we all know about this incredible movie and how it informed so much of my high school experience in my senior year and what Ferris Bueller meant. And to this day, I still even feel like any time you don't want to go to work, the great scene involving him not being in class, Ben Stein asking for Bueller, anyone Bueller? Exactly. The remarkable Mia Sara is his girlfriend, as we all know, Alan Ruck was on this program revealed he was 28 when he played Cameron.

Not a high schooler. The song from that movie, Oh Yeah, by Yello. Okay, that is the song that became very popular from that film.

And of course, Ed Rooney, fantastic. John Hughes, interestingly enough, this was this movie directed by John Hughes shot at the same time. I did not know this to save money and time and a budget shot at the same time with the interiors in the same high school is number two on this list. The Breakfast Club. Did you know that they shot this at the same time?

I did not. Yes. Wow.

At North Main High School in Duplane, Illinois, Breakfast Club is number two on this list at Shermer High School, which by the way, is rumored to be the same high school was mentioned in Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Weird Science, another John Hughes movie. Yeah. Love that. I did not know that.

Yes. So Sixteen Candles, another John Hughes movie of the seven of the 80s. But we all remember in Shermer High School, Saturday, March 24th, 1984, an all day detention, a brain, an athlete, a basket case, a princess and a criminal watched by vice principal Richard Vernon, played by the actor Paul Gleason, also known as Clarence Beaks from Trading Places. And we all know how this was an adult high school movie where Pretty in Pink was in a lot of these other movies are about silliness or love gone wrong. This was about kids having major issues with themselves and each other and finding a common ground. We all know the song from this movie, Don't You Forget About Me by Simple Minds. That's number two on the list. And for me, the number one high school movie of the 1980s, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, 1982. If I'm here and you're here, doesn't that make it our time?

Correct. It is now on our time right here. Sean Penn, as we all know, bursting on the scene in a way that we've really never seen him again. The fact that he's Jeff Spicoli and what I am, Sam, right, is truly amazing. And it was the moment I fell in love with Phoebe Cates. I'm not going to lie there. That was the moment everybody fell in love with.

We all did. But Fast Times at Ridgemont High is a movie I haven't seen in a while. I believe it still stands up. I think it does.

And that's my top five high school movies of the 1980s here on the... One more. Oh, sure. All right.

Oh, wait, what? Yep. Six?

Oh, my God. No, I always do one more. You can't do six.

You can't do five all the time. Mile in High School's remarkable run to the championship, Hoosiers. It's about a high school, isn't it? It's about a high school.

Totally different. There you go. Hoosiers. Hoosiers. Is just throwing it in there. Coach Dale and Jimmy Chitwood and Ollie and about those crazy high schoolers of Mile in High.

What was the quote? Rudy is a documentary compared to Hoosiers. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. No, Back to the Future, huh? Yeah. No, that's kind of like Die Hard being a Christmas movie, that being a high school movie.

It's not really. It's about a movie about a high schooler going back in time, I guess. It's a movie about what? The high schooler going back in time. This is about high schoolers going through life, learning about life.

Oh, it's a life. The guy goes through time. Oh, my God. Had he not gone to the future. Back to the future. He didn't have a life.

What do you mean? He's a high school movie. He has to go back to a high school. Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

To make sure they fall in love. Get out of here. There's like not one, but two high school. Pretty in Pink, Risky Business, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, The Breakfast Club, and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. And, yeah. Back to the Future. You would put that future as a high school. An egregious oversight here.

What else am I missing? What year was Dazed and Confused? That was 90s, dog. That was 93. No, I was 85. I did a similar thing a few, like last year.

Yeah. So our top five is different. I had Vision Quest, Better Off Dead, Lean On Me, just one of the guys. And I did 6'2". I had Weird Science and Sixteen Candles at number one. I didn't, no Footloose. How many high school related movies were in the 80s? Like every movie that came out. You never see a high school movie anymore, right?

All of them. No. No, no, no. Not anymore. That's because John, by the way, John Hughes spoke about Teenage Angst, I mean Say Anything was potentially on this list. That was a 90s flick, though. You know? No Say Anything was in the 80s, late 80s.

It snuck in just in the wire, I think it was 89. I love, that is one of my favorite movies, by the way. Ferris Bueller. I didn't even give you a song from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but... Dead Poets Society? I almost went Dead Poets Society.

Good one. But I mean... A little dark. I kind of chose about a high school experience, senioritis, you know, going off to college like Risky Business and losing your mind before you go off to college. Pretty in Pink about a senior, it involved James Spader. You can't have a great 80s movie without James Spader.

The Breakfast Club is the ultimate Teenage Angst 80s movie, and then Fast Times at Ridgemont High is just number one. Yeah, the great thing about Fast Times, which I think we all love, is the fact that you get that high school experience, but then kids nowadays, Rich, what they will probably never get, guys, is what it's like to go hang out at the mall. Right?

Yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately, I don't think those days exist anymore. It's Saturday, what are you doing? I'm going to the mall. Going to the mall, playing in the arcade, I'm going to get a slice, I'm going to go see a movie. Like, the mall experience is just not, and probably never will be the same, and that's one thing kids nowadays will never really be able to... Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure? If I had to choose a song from Fast Times, I would choose Somebody's Baby by Jackson Brown.

Mmm. There's gonna be somebody's only life... No, no, no, stop, stop. I don't want to give Jackson Brown money.

And plus the scene that was playing with that music song. That's it. You know?

Rich, that's your list. No one's going to take it away from you. Well, okay. You want to come up with yours in the break? Come back. Ooh. You want to come up with yours in the break?

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They'd detain you and get people on the phone, and then they finally let you go to your modeling job. How many times did it happen? Once or twice.

It just seems like it wouldn't happen. It happens, yeah. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum, wherever you listen. A lot of chatter based off of my top five list. Yeah. Yeah, that's what lists do.

They spark debate and dialogue. That's important. Could have chosen another Elizabeth Shue film, Adventures in Babysitting. Oh, that's a good one. Good one.

Good one. That's not really a high school one. I saw a list where somebody included Stand By Me, but they're not in high school. It's kids.

Sandlot was kids in grade school. Right. The movie is the high school one, but... Yeah, I had that on my list. That's a good one. Stand and Deliver? Mm-hmm.

That's not a high... It's a movie about a high school. Teacher. I mean, I wanted to choose- You're going for the experience. Experience, yes. Right. Right. I respect that about your list. I appreciate that. You know?

Last Times wasn't much... That was about, I guess, an experience in the 80s in high school, where you're trying to impress a girl and you look over and she's looking at you and you're in your pirate costume going to work. You know? Damone, selling tickets, scalping tickets at the food court. Mustache coming in all right, rat.

Damone. Fame was on the- Fame's a good one? 1980. 1980. Well, you want to live forever. Yeah.

I'm going to learn how to fly. All the right moves? Could have went another Tom Cruise. But Footloose is a good one.

Georgeovich. Footloose is a good one. Very rewatchable. Outsiders.

Killer cast. See, I had Outsiders, but to go the richest point, though, The Outsiders wasn't really about the high school. Right. It wasn't about high school.

It's not really on the high school experience. Right. Right. You're right. Yes. But Outsiders, one of my favorite movies.

One of my favorite books. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Dan just read it, by the way. Oh, did he like it? Yeah, he did. It's awesome.

He did. I watched My Bodyguard the other day, if you remember that. I do. Yeah.

Back here on The Rich Eisen Show. Do you have your top five? You got something? Yeah.

I'm just kind of scrolling. I'm looking for a number five. Al and Dallas. Let's take Al's call. What's up, Al?

How you been? I need an oil change. Do you know of this establishment wise enough to have The Rich Eisen Show on for those waiting for their lube to change? I'm very impressed.

I'm very impressed. I told Brockman, it's down the street from one of the best Italian places, Jimmy's Italian food joint down on Sitsu. Okay. So I was like, you can get that, you know, that prosciutto and that, and that Parmigiano Reggiano.

That's the only way to get it. Sure. That sounds delicious, Al. So yeah, you know, if they're going to have The Rich Eisen Show on every day, then it's where I'm going to go get my oil change.

You should. Come on, Al. Let's go.

Take it. By the way, just looking at this photograph from Matt Howerton, you can get a nice cup of coffee. There is a terrific array of magazines, maybe as you can see on the right, I think you can get a wiper change too.

Looks like they got wipers. Yeah, absolutely. You know. Full service. With the weather down here, with the weather down here, you need it.

You know, you definitely need it. Now again, like always on this show, you want to call up and talk about one thing, but then you guys totally pivot and completely pull off everything I want to talk about. I have a great story regarding these movies. So most of these movies, as you were talking about before, are based in Highland Park, Illinois. Yeah. OK, so I'm in a pizza restaurant in Highland Park, Dallas, which I'm sure you're familiar with. Yes. All right. So I'm sitting in this pizza joint in a high end mall and what they love to do is play 80s movies on on, you know, running through like it kind of like a trendy spot. So I'm sitting there and you've been kind enough to see my kids.

So I'm sitting next to my son and 16 Candles comes on the TV and I'm like, oh, look at this. Right. But it wasn't the WPIX version. Right.

The Channel 11 version. The theme right out of the gate in that movie is the shower scene. And they were out in full force on the TV. And there's my son with his eyes wide open, trying to bite into a slice of pizza, checking out 16 candles. I waved the waitress down. I go, you may want to put the put the G version on of these movies. She's like, oh, my God, I know that's a different that's that's a different version of toppings in that pizzeria.

Shout out to Havelan Morris, I remember her well. It's like it's like watching it's like watching Slapshot on cable. Right.

Of course. We grew up. We never watched Slapshot on cable.

We watched it on Channel 11, Channel 9 for those in the East Coast. And by the first time the next time you see like, oh, good Lord, I got the kids are walking through the room here. Right. Yeah.

It's unbelievable. But yeah, this 80s stuff you you did pretty well. You did really well. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thanks.

And then I thanks very much. You can't go. I mean, John Hughes was the master of it. And that's why everything was in Chicago, I guess. Right. Yeah. You know, because that's John Hughes is bailiwick.

Right there. Did you know I also read that in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, the the license plates all were the first letters of other movies that John Hughes did. Oh, really? Yeah. And he is one of the license plates on it for the Breakfast Club, which he was shooting at the same time shot at the same time.

And the same the interiors were the same again, North Main High School in Duplane, Illinois. So how about that? All right. Porky's not on my list. Just for just so you're aware, Porky's on my list was a film Joel Lewis eyes and may he rest in peace for a fuse to let me watch. I was not allowed to watch that, which only made me want to watch it more.

He put his he put his foot down. You are not watching Porky's. I'm like, why?

Then years later, I saw Porky's. I'm like, I get it. I get it.

Wrench of the Nerds. College. It's college.

It's not high school. I understand. All right. Here's my list.

OK. What do you got? This is mostly about rewatch ability for me. OK. I don't want to see. Yes. I don't want to see it twice. But the 10th, 11th, 30th time, I still need to enjoy it.

OK. So that's why number five, Bill and Ted. Come on. It doesn't get any better than Napoleon going down the water slide. Number four, Karate Kid, which we celebrate today. Thirty nine years. The All Valley Karate Tournament.

Number three, Weird Science. TJ and I are in agreement on that. Kelly LeBrock, everybody. Say less rich. Say less.

Agreed. Bill Paxton. Maybe you rest in peace. Bill Paxton.

Rest in peace. He was a quote unquote villain in that movie. He was number two. Ferris Bueller. Bueller. And number one.

Number one. We're going back in time, people. We're going back in time. Back in time. Well then. To the universe a lot.

Huey Lewis. OK. Fantastic. That's a high school movie, though? I mean, it's about a high schooler going back to, you know, his parents high school.

Make sure they fall in love. You're too technical with this stuff. I'm not too technical about it. You're too technical. I'm not.

I'm not. It was a high school enchantment under the sea dance. I understand. Where it took place. A major plot point. I get it. Of the movie. I'm with you.

A high school. I'm with you. OK. We're on the same page. We're not.

Well, I mean, in terms of agreeing. Same book. Learn it. Know it.

Live it. Thank you. What is that? I don't know.

Smitch sent it. I thought it was irrelevant. It's from Fast Times. Fast Times, when Spicoli walks into a pizza shop, they don't have shirts or shoes. Judge Reithold. Yeah. Judge Reithold.

Spicoli. Nic Cage. Cage. Who is the Eric. That's crazy.

I forget which other actor, but they walk in without shirts or shoes on, and Judge is telling them. Gives them that quote. 82.

Thank you, Smitch. 82. That's number one on my list. You know, I mean, it's about the Ridgemont High.

It's the only one on my list, not in Chicago. Here in Southern California, where there are pools with people coming out of them. Not just any people. Oh my God. Very specific. Oh.

Not any people. My goodness. Danny Noonan or Caddyshack. Danny Noonan was in high school. That's not a high school.

That's a golf movie. I understand. But he was in high school. I understand. About a high school. I understand.

Trying to get a scholarship. Okay. That's true. That's where risky business and Caddyshack part ways. I looked up this Ferris Bueller license plate thing, and it's true, man.

That's really cool. I never noticed that. One license plate says VCTN as a nod to National Lampoon's vacation. There's actually a plate that says 4FBDO, which is for Ferris Bueller's Day Off, kind of like an Easter egg within the movie. There's one for TBC, the Breakfast Club, like you said, and MOM, Mr. Mom. Mr.

Mom, another John Hughes. Great. I want to show my kids Uncle Buck. Oh, Uncle Buck is mandatory, real.

Yeah, do it. I do. John Candy was so big in my household growing up. The day that guy died, you would have thought... So sad. One of our family members passed out.

One of our family members passed out. Another John Hughes. Home Alone gave me a... Oh my gosh.

Yeah. John Candy was the man. Speaking of Home Alone, I got to go home. It's just like, I feel like, uh, like, we can go home now.

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