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REShow: Amy Trask - Hour 3

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April 26, 2023 4:04 pm

CBS Sports’ Analyst/former Raiders exec Amy Trask tells guest host Suzy Shuster what it was like being in an NFL Draft war room with Al Davis, if the Packers or Jets won the Aaron Rodgers trade, if the 4-time NFL MVP makes New York a top-4 team in the AFC, if the Raiders might still select a QB in the draft despite signing Jimmy Garoppolo and if head coach Josh McDaniels is already on the hot seat, and weighs in on some recent comments from the Packers’, Titans’, and 49ers’ GMs on whether or not they were spitting the truth or lying through their teeth.

Rich calls in from the NFL Draft in Kansas City and tells Suzy his reaction to Aaron Rodgers’ first Jets press conference and says why he’s “genuinely fired up” about the 4-time NFL MVP’s arrival in New York. 

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It's Suzy Schuster. Welcome back to The Rich Eisen Show. I'm Suzy Schuster in for Rich Eisen, who is in KC, of course, for the draft. And it wouldn't be an appearance for me if I didn't have my trusty sidekick and the smartest woman in sports at my side. This is Amy Trask, of course. And Amy, I don't want to do this show without you. So I basically begged you to come down the 405 today.

Is that true? Well, I didn't actually take the 405, full disclosure, side streets. Honor, thrilled to be here. And I want to make clear to you, my arms are crossed, not because I'm in a testy mood, not because of any sort of ill will. I'm freezing.

Because studios are awful. Always, always too much air conditioning. So I'm freezing.

So I've got a turtleneck on and I'm crossing my arms to stay warm. Also, last time we ate ice cream during the show. We will do that from now on. But I just I couldn't pull it together today. Also, I was so cold after that that I had like severe like defrost issues. Also, a note to self, Chris Brockman, Mike Del Tufo, of course, and TJ Jefferson.

Great to see you guys. I had such bad sugar chills from last time because eating ice cream first thing in the morning is not a smart idea, by the way. OK, but I do it almost every morning.

Because you're insane. Ice cream is a good breakfast. It's dairy. It's calcium.

Strong bones. Amy Trask, of course, from CBS Sports and also known as the Princess of Darkness, which once again is the greatest of all monikers. I shall forever cherish my nickname. I do think it's the best ever. A couple other good ones are stink, snacks. But Princess of Darkness is the best.

By the way, I would drop stink and snacks from now on and just just roll with the princess thing. It is. It's what's for breakfast right now. Let's talk. It's draft week.

That's why you're here. And we wanted to kind of dive into things. What was it like around the facility, around the Raiders with Al Davis during draft week? That's a great question, because when we talk about the draft, people always focus on the draft room, the draft room, what's going on in the draft room. Things are going on throughout the organization.

I was not in our draft room, although I was in regular contact with Al. And there were some moments when that contact was interesting. But the entire organization is busy. Sales, marketing, sponsorship, advertising. You're entertaining existing sponsors and advertisers, and you're using the event to bring in prospective advertisers and sponsors.

Ticket sales, suite sales, customer service, PR, social media. Everyone in the organization is busy. So in other words, everyone's nervous too, because there's so much going on.

I would, I would use the word nervous in the excited sense. You know, you're in there. You're supposed to be in there at X time.

You're in there hours and hours earlier. It's exciting. What was Al Davis like during draft week? Like what's your favorite Al Davis story? Well, my favorite story of AD from draft day was I'm downstairs.

I'm with some of our limited partners who were visiting and sponsors and advertisers and worrying about all the business issues I just mentioned. And I get a phone, someone runs down and says, Al needs to talk to you. Well, leading up to the draft, it had been speculated that we were going to draft a certain player in the first round. I will never name him. I don't want to hurt his feelings.

I don't want to bring up a sore memory. But we were getting killed for this prospective pick. How can they do this? We hear they're going to do this.

This would be a bad pick and on and on and on. So I'm downstairs. Someone comes running up. Al needs to talk to you. So go over to the phone. Get in touch with the draft room. Here's the conversation.

Al's on the other end of the phone. We're going to take him. We're going to get killed for it. You have to handle it. Click.

OK, then. And we did take him and people were rough on us. And you know what? It was a fine pick. What did Al look for in a player, Amy Trask? Well, the two things Al told me throughout my career, kid, never leave a team without corners and the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard.

So, you know, he did look for corners, speed at corner and dominating defenders. Now I have to ask you this. Like, who do you think would be like the most exciting Al Davis player in his storied past and yours alongside of him? Oh, I wouldn't pick just one.

And I don't do that to, you know, what's a great analogy. I'm not trying to punt. I just don't think there's one player. And, you know, some people that are listening to this, watching this will have loved Al.

Some couldn't stand him. But one thing I hope everybody appreciates about him is his appreciation for players. Again, from the time I started with the Raiders till the day we lost him, something he told me repeatedly, the players are the game. I mean, that's everything for a player, right?

I mean, everything a player ever wants is to have an owner who's truly invested in them, not just as performers, but as people. So I shared this on Twitter yesterday. I had finished my internship, started as a full time employee. And shortly thereafter, we draft Tim Brown. That was one of our picks in the draft. So at one point, I sort of observed, I thought about it. And I said to Al, you know, I was sort of taken in the same draft as Tim.

And Al looks at me. Tim was a first round pick. You were a street free agent. And he was right.

Beautiful. I mean, come on, you can't help it. You can't think of better things to be your Al Davis's top free agent. Street free agent, street, not just a free agent, street free agent, which is just sort of the more pejorative way to refer to a street free, a free agent. You're just out there on the street. And by the way, exactly. And you were probably in an inexpensive pickup. And by the way, someone pointed out to me, I should have responded.

Willie Brown wasn't drafted either. Now that asks for a pivot. That's a perfect place for me to say, okay, this is going to be the JB then. Okay, then. And then you pivot on to the next thing, because I'm not even sure how to follow that one up.

But I want to move on to what the Rich Eisen show really cares about, which is ice cream. Well, that that and us being here and everything about Chris Brockman and sneakers and TJ. But let me ask you about the Aaron Rodgers trade now that this is done, now that we can breathe again and pacing around and making us all miserable, because let's face it, it's been a an exhausting couple of months. And by the way, Chris Brockman, I think I heard you say something about your prognostications for how this is going to turn out, I think, in New York. Thoughts? Yeah, I just don't think it's going to go well.

Yeah. He didn't play that great last year. He's going to be 40 this season. And in the history of the NFL, like I said yesterday, there's only been two players who have had great seasons over the age of 40. It's Tom Brady and Fred Favre. How much do you think his performance last year? Hey, look at me.

Now I'm interviewing. How much do you think his performance last year was impacted by injury? Injury to himself?

Yeah, I would say that's probably likely. Injury, new players getting familiarized with new offensive weapons, and that's exactly what's going to happen with the Jets. So why should we think that anything is going to be different? Well, the thing that annoyed me, rubbed my fur the wrong way last year was his complaints about the new players and not being in sync. Well, you want to be in sync, show up for the offseason program.

Absolutely. And that'll be interesting to see what happens this year when you show up early. You know, it's like, remember the Menendez brothers who were convicted of killing their parents and in their defense in the sentencing hearing, one of their defenses was, well, you know, we're orphans. OK, you killed your parents. You can't plead the fact that you're orphans in your defense. So you didn't show up for offseason programs.

You really can't complain that you're not in sync. Name me another sports show where you show up and you hear Aaron Rogers compared to the Menendez brothers. Just name me one. I'm just saying or or you've got someone old enough on the show that remembers the Menendez brothers. Oh, God. Are we that old? I think we are. Is that really happening? I get it. All right. Let's talk about this compensation package for Aaron Rodgers and Mike.

I don't know if you can pull it up. I'd love to see this. So look at this, guys. For those of you watching on Roku, you're seeing this the 2023 first round pick. 15th overall is what the Jets get. 2023 fifth round pick. The Packers get 2023 first round pick. 13th overall. The 2023 second round pick.

40 seconds overall. 2023 sixth round pick. And the 2024 conditional second second round pick could be the first round pick if Aaron Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps this season.

That's for all of you out there listening to the show on radio or podcasting or whatever you're doing. Why not be equal opportunity, of course? But what do you think of this compensation package? If both teams are satisfied with the deal, that's all that matters. And I know people want to discuss who won the trade.

I don't look at it that way. If the Packers are pleased with what they got in compensation, if the Jets are fine with what they gave up, if everyone's happy, well, then, yay, everyone's happy. I don't understand why we have to assess everything in life as a winner and a loser. Also, because we want competition in the league. I mean, we want everyone to come out of this draft as winners because we want to see more competitive teams out there. Competitive balance is the league's goal. The league wants, and this is a stated goal, this isn't a secret, that every year, every fan of every team thinks his or her fan, his or her team, can win it all.

That every week of every season, every fan of every team thinks his or her team can win that game. Amy Trask here on The Rich Eisen Show, Susie Schuster in for Rich Eisen, who's in KC, of course, for the draft. Amy, in the next segment, don't go anywhere, we're going to play our new game, lying season or not, because honestly, the lies are flying around. GMs are just out there just spewing and... With impunity.

With impunity is a good way to put it and you're a lawyer, so you need to, of course, add the impunity, but that'll be our next segment. Don't go anywhere here on The Rich Eisen Show. This is the part where I just say, this is basically the questions my brother sent in because my brother Scott was like, okay, you're having Amy Trask on, here are my questions. So I'm 50 years old. My brother got me into sports when I was a kid and basically throughout my career, he'll be like, okay, ask this question, which is great because it's kind of like having... It's a village.

It's like basically having like, you know, it's like a net when you're flying high above on the trapeze. These are the Scott Schuster questions. Ready? Here we go. I'm ready, Scott Schuster.

Here we go. The signing of Jimmy G, do you think that that signing will preclude the Raiders from seriously looking at a quarterback in the first round? Of course, the Raiders have the seventh round, seventh pick overall in the first round. I certainly don't think it should preclude the team from looking for other quarterback answers, but it does give them breathing room if they decide not to go in that direction. I do hope that they were honest with him going into the signing, that if they were going to look at quarterbacks anyway, that they said, look, we're signing you, but we're going to look at other quarterbacks. I'm a big believer in open, honest dialogue between teams and their players. Follow-up question. Do you think Josh McDaniels is already under pressure this year?

Of course, we remember a lot of meetings with ownership after games last season. A couple of reactions to that. It's only his second year.

So when people say, is he on the hot seat? I guess my reaction is twofold. Dude, calm down. It's year two. But recognizing that patience is short.

That's the best way to say it. So should someone be on the proverbial hot seat after a year? I mean, as I said, it's a year. But on the other hand, patience is at a minimum in the world in general. But in the league, people are less patient than they were for many years.

So is he on the hot seat? I don't know. But I do know this. That's a lot of money invested. And if you move on from a coach, even if he goes somewhere else in an assistant position and gets some amount of offset, you could still end up owning a lot of money. I mean, that's it.

That's basically it. I mean, you think about the financial implications, and that's obviously a lot of what you would deal with. I mean, I don't know how you make a snap judgment that fast. Well, it is. And what people don't recognize or a lot of people don't recognize is there's a vast difference or vast differential between the highest revenue clubs and the lowest revenue clubs.

And so money being paid to someone no longer employed by an organization is harder for some teams than others. Absolutely. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to go to lying season or not. And this is a game you're going to want to play at home with your kids.

Lying season or not. And of course, let's set this up, okay? There are three options. So get ready as we think about this. All right, I'm ready. I'm getting ready. The gospel truth.

Like, are we hearing from these GMs the truth? That's one option. A little white lie.

Always everyone's best friend. A little white lie. Don't want to make, you know, do you look fat?

No, you look great. Right. And then GTFOH. It's outta. Okay. It's grammatically correct. GTFOHTA. I know what you're spelling there. So we're going to come back here. You like how I did that? Yeah.

It's cute. We'll be right back here at the Rich Eisen Show. Don't go anywhere.

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Before we do that, Christopher, I believe you had a question for Amy. Yeah, real quick, Amy, Mike Hoskins, if you want to put the compensation board for Aaron Rodgers up, kind of interesting that they gave up the packer of the Jets did this much for a guy who admitted he didn't want to play for the Packers anymore. And I just think Brian Gudekus did an amazing job of getting what he got from the from the Jets, considering that Rogers said he wasn't going to play for them anymore. And it's getting 60 million dollars off off of their cap. How did you analyze this trade when you saw it? And do you think kind of the Jets got fleeced a little bit?

Well, I'll say two things that are not mutually inconsistent. I agree with you that the Packers did a good job. They look they had the they had the need to move on for the reasons that you just said, as well as other reasons.

And they did a good job drawing compensation for that. But if the Jets got the man that they wanted, whether you agree with it, whether I agree with it, whether anyone thinks he's the right guy, if they got the guy that they want and they're comfortable with what they gave up, then Jets fans can be happy as well. In other words, it's not mutually inconsistent to say the Packers did very, very well, which they did. But if the Jets are fine with what they gave up and they're happy, well, then there you go.

Everybody can be happy. Yeah, it's kind of our job to just analyze it and break it down. But ultimately, like you said, if Rogers takes them to the AFC Championship game or they go to the Super Bowl or maybe they even win it, then it really doesn't matter how many first round picks they gave up. Right. Because in the end, it's all about, you know, and that sort of goes back to the Rams from a couple of years ago when everyone was so critical of the Rams doing all they did and giving up picks. But you know what? I don't know a team that wouldn't do anything they could to win a Super Bowl. Now, I'm not suggesting that's going to be what happens for the Jets. Maybe they make it to the playoffs.

Maybe they don't. That's a tough division this year with the divisional games and then the out of division games they'll be playing. But if this is the guy the Jets wanted and they're willing to give up the compensation they did, then fine. Do you think this puts the Jets as a top four team in the AFC or just a playoff team?

Like where does this put them now? Because, you know, a lot of people, I think they have what the fourth or fifth best Super Bowl odds now because a lot of people are projecting that they could be. And I think it's way too early to tell. Look, it's April. There's still more free agency to go. There's still the possibility of trades to go. Every single team is one bad injury away from a bad season. I don't think April's the time to be projecting. And I recognize that that's what people in this industry do.

They project. I just think it's too early to tell. I mean, there's still a couple more a week left. What are we going to talk about? I mean, come on, we're going to speculate. But this is all guys do is they want to speculate and talk about it. I'm always too nervous to prognosticate because you're an injury away. Some kind of change happens like I don't look like an idiot at the end of the season.

Well, and I think it's not for me a nervousness. It's a, you know, maybe harkening back to my legal training and wanting to say objection, your honor calls for a hypothetical. Also, I feel like the Jets had to do this for all those miserable fans like Rich who sit there losing year after year. They had to do something now. They had to make this happen.

There's no fleecing to be done, Christopher. They don't. When's the last time they won anything? I mean, like, you know, let's face it. OK, we're a little jaded. Well, it's a long time.

And also, I have to fix something because it's going to haunt me because this is just the way I am. I think I used the wrong objection. It should have been objection, your honor calls for speculation. Speculation. I think speculation. I mean, TJ, I mean, I think that speculation. Jefferson could be a new name for you in a new segment coming up. It could be objection speculation. Jefferson, well, maybe it could be a new game. Speculation. I'm just I'm just I'm just really just thinking of ways to get TJ involved because he's over there with his candle and he's kind of sitting there looking, looking like I'm looking like he's watching a prize fight over here. Let's play this game. Do we have a mic drop?

Do we have some kind of like music mic for this? The truth shall set you free. Lying season or not? Everybody's lying.

Nobody tells me ahead of time when there's something sexy like that. That's a big one. All right. Lying season or not. Ron Karthon, Tennessee Titans GM, when asked if he's received phone calls for Derrick Henry, this is what he had to say.

No, no. I mean, there's things I want to say that I want because I got Robbie standing to my left. You know, I mean, it is what it is. You know, it's a part of the job. You know, I know people have their job to do to speculate and, you know, put things out and hope that it's stick and hope, hope that they're right. All our dealings are with the players and our players know where we stand with them. And so it's not a need to kind of touch on it. And if there's something that comes up, you know, we'll we'll address it as it comes. But I don't feel the need to kind of discuss, you know, their personal business publicly. OK. He said he did not receive any phone calls for Derrick Henry lying season or not.

Amy Trask. Well, you know, I could go all lawyer on you and I could say your question is, did he receive any phone calls on Derrick? Maybe he received phone calls that weren't about Derrick, but the Derrick topic came up later in the phone call. So there is a way to parse this that the answer could be no and yes and yes and no. But I'm going to play the game and I'm going to say that's the gospel truth. Wow.

You think so? I believe him. I believe him.

There you go. I believe him. It may be that he hinted around on those calls. Maybe he got some calls on other topics and then started hinting a little bit. Maybe not.

But I'm going gospel truth. Chris, you think so? I think that's crazy.

Someone had to call. I think it's absolutely crazy. I think it's absolutely crazy. I think I just got called crazy there. You're not crazy. We're not crazy. This is crazy.

It's like you're not here. But I'm saying he's telling the truth. You know more than we do. We're idiots. We're just opining over here. We're just basically like like like lighting the media fire over here. It's lying season.

The Titans are not making the playoffs this year. Let's be honest. It is lying season. I agree with you.

I just don't think he's lying. Ryan Tannehill probably won't be the quarterback in 2024 and so you're not just going to let these guys walk. You got to get something for your assets while you can while they still have value. So what better value than just getting rid of Derrick Henry.

Maybe get a second and a third back and then you can reload for whoever the quarterback of your future is. There's no way no one. Buffalo didn't call. Philly didn't call. Come on now. I don't believe that.

I think you guys are never going to want to play this game with me again because I am going to go all, you know, Al Davis used to say, well, you know how she is with words because I'm very particular about listening to words. The question wasn't asked of him. Have you had any discussions about Derrick? It was, have you received any calls on Derrick? Maybe he didn't receive him.

Maybe he initiated him. Then he's not lying. When we make the board game, you're going to have the gavel and we're going to have, I could be the judge. I could be the judge. You can be the judge and we'll be the morons basically just trying to make a story where there isn't because you're absolutely right.

He could have had conversations about him, but he may not have gotten the phone calls. That's true. You guys are going to so regret having me play this game.

I never regret you ever, ever, ever, anywhere. John Lynch, San Francisco 49ers GM when asked if he expects Trey Lance to be on the roster next season said, is it accurate to say your expectation is Trey Lance is going to be on the roster throughout the two. Yeah, absolutely. I expect Trey to be here and, you know, we're excited about Trey's ability to compete and what he can do for our franchise, just as we were when we drafted Trey. And, you know, I think the only thing that's changed this off season is that Trey's gone and got himself healthy.

He was injured last year. He's done a really good job of doing that. He's done some different things in terms of his training this off season. He's very encouraged by that. And we'll see when we get an opportunity to get out there on the field with him.

But we have every reason to be encouraged as well. We are excited about Trey lying season or not. Well, the question if the question is, were you are you excited about Trey lying? Lying? What's the what?

How does that go? G. F. T. F. O. H. Lying season. Lying season now. Do you expect him to be there? The answer probably if we could have gone into his brain was, yeah, I expect him to be here.

But I'm hoping that if we're having this conversation, I can encourage other people to call me. So he's not here. What is the word kids today use? Oh, manifesting, you know, kids today. And I'm saying kids, but I think grown ups use it as well, which is he's trying to manifest perhaps Trey not being there. Although, you know what, maybe he does want Trey to be there because after all, they gave up umpteen picks to get him.

And maybe they want to be proven smart that he stays and he plays well and they can prove that their picks were well used. But if the question were, are you excited about Trey being here? G. T. F. O. H. Right. Right. Well put. Well, by the way, if the question was, are you glad you gave up all those first round picks to get him?

Double G. T. F. O. H. Chris, thoughts? TJ, you've been to the club, right? You've been to the club back in the day. You walk around, they have these they have these giant signs, right?

And you can put whatever on. It's like, happy birthday or whatever. You know, Deebo Samuel come to wherever. And he was just like, man, John Lynch is basically in the club right now holding up a sign that says, please, someone call me and make me an offer for Trey Lance. I can't wait to get rid of this guy. Great kid. We met at the Super Bowl. Love him. I want to root for him. There's no way he's the forty nine or quarterback next year. This is the wizard of the not even a little white lie.

What is big fat blue whale? Why? Because that's what that's what John Lynch is doing right now. Well, there you go. When you're saying change all the time, I'm expected to drive home, but I could stop at the ice cream store. You know, I mean, like expectations.

John Lynch not telling the truth. OK. And I think we're saying the same thing because you said it much more in a much more erudite fashion. You said it much more clearly than I did. But he's trying to generate phone calls, generates. And I was saying, you know, the kids today say he's trying to manifest that he'll be elsewhere because, look, they would love to get back some of that capital that they gave up to get him.

I don't know what club they were going to, but the clubs I went to didn't have big signs walking around. But that's OK. That's a whole nother conversation. And I do. And the past is in the past.

And I do love that none of you thought I ever went to a club. That's honestly that's for a podcast. We'll save that one. I would write to TJ. I know TJ was living that club life and in the aughts.

So I just had to go to him. That's a clip and save. TJ would call that a clip and save. Do you think that's a clip and save? OK, last one, Amy.

OK, I'm ready. So this is hot off the presses. Brian Gudekun says the Packers GM says the Packers are not rebuilding. How do you kind of view what this team is and is becoming through this process right now? Is it fair to say you're rebuilding?

No, I don't I don't ever look at it like that. You know, we're excited about this football team to work and go. Obviously, we're a long ways away from what our 53 man roster and our 16 man practice squad is going to look like. But we're really excited about it.

It's going to be new, obviously, specifically at quarterback, it looks like. But at the same time, you know, the goals don't change around here. It's going to be the same goals we've always had. Right. There's there's one goal here every single year, no matter what. And just like it was back in the last time, we kind of moved on from one quarterback to the other. Right. The goals are the same. And it's going to be on those guys to put in the work. And it's going to be exciting to see. But, yeah, nothing's really changing. Yeah. Only, you know, you no longer have a future Hall of Fame quarterback, Amy Trask, lying season or not.

I'm not going to do Jennifer Lawrence disservice by trying to emulate the meme of her where she winks and says, you know, OK, because I couldn't do it. But that that's what I'm thinking. Look, one of two things.

Either he is just lying or he really believes what he's saying. And yes, the Packers did move on from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. And Packer fans should always be thrilled with the fact that they had about 30 seasons of phenomenal quarterbacking. We don't know what Jordan Love is going to be yet, but to suggest that they're not going to be growing. And I don't know the exact words, growing pains or rebuilding. Yeah. Yeah.

The Jennifer Lawrence meme came to mind. He's either not telling the truth or he really, really believes that. And by the way, for him to say every team has the goal of winning every year.

Yeah, we get it. That's every team's goal. It doesn't make it a realistic goal.

That's like one game at a time, basically. So we're calling that maybe like a little white lie or hope or just craziness. Maybe it's either a little white lie or he really believes it, in which case you just kind of want to give him a hug. It's not a lie.

If you believe it. Thank you. Thank you, Mikey.

And thank you, Smitscher, John Mitchell, for these. I don't think I'm good at this game because I go, I revert all the way to law school and my legal training and I want to parse every I don't think they're to anyone watching or listening. I don't think they're ever going to ask me to play this game again. No, I told you, we already are going to TM this and you're already the judge.

But when I want to have something, you know, like fiery, I go to the guy from New England. I say, Chris, what do you think about this? Oh, and I'll just tell you exactly what I think. Yeah, there you go.

Hey, how are we building? What are we talking about? This is Jordan has no idea how to play quarterback. He's out there.

He's run around. It was terrible in the one game where his mom was sitting in the very last row. She couldn't even see.

Thank God she couldn't see because he was awful. And he's going to get out there. They're going to be in the wrong. I'm going to say this right now. The Packers will have a top five pick next year, and they're going to be in the running for one of these guys. Drake May, Caleb Williams, who knows, some guy we've never even heard of right now. No one was talking about Will Levese this time last year. And now he could be the number one pick.

This is what the Packers are going to be next year. A compelling argument, counselor. That was a very compelling argument. I am now going to shift to lying. See, I look at this different than I'm going to take a different approach. The fact is, if he agrees that they're in rebuilding mode, then that would also mean that he hadn't been doing his job in the time that he's had this position. So therefore, the question is, do you believe he's telling the truth?

I do believe he's telling the truth because for him to say, yeah, we were rebuilding, which mean that he also knew that he did something wrong or he didn't do his job to the fullest. So that's why I kind of believe he's telling the truth there, which is kind of like the same thing as tap dancing, which is kind of like saving his neck. So you're trying to say that's a good one. Tap dancing should be another category.

That's a call in covering your your high end. See why I cover your beer. That's another good category.

See why I took me a minute. I went there. I think it's a great game. I'd like to have you back to play it again. I think I might kind of like to be the judge. Why don't we have a Judge Amy show like where all of you say whether you think and then I rule in someone's favor or not. I think this is the next time we are. I'm getting a gavel for the Rich Eisen show. I think it's called Judge Amy.

Roku, I'm telling you, it wouldn't be. I wear a little black robe. I'll bring a gavel. Yeah. Sexy.

Cute. I'm here for it. OK. Best argument gets ice cream. By the way, I'll bring the snacks.

Although we'll all win because we'll all get ice cream. Amy Chesk, what are you doing later? It's a it's a big draft build up for the week. It is. Thank you for asking. We are having a That Other Pregame Show, which we refer to as TOPS.

Get it? That Other Pregame Show TOPS. We're doing a draft special this evening. It's well, they call it evening in New York time.

In California time, it's from four to seven on CBS Sports Network. But I want you to know I only wear my Looney Tunes for you. So I will be changing before I go into studio.

And we're doing a three hour draft show. Well, I think I have to follow this up by saying that's all folks. By the way, can I tell you something crazy as we go to as we go to break?

I had to go to the Hollywood Forever Cemetery the other day and went by the Mel Blanks stone and you know what it says on his stone? That's all folks. That's all folks. That is that kind of gave me chills.

But it is perfect. Name me another sports show. You're going to hear about stuff like that. I'm just and the Menendez Brothers. By the way, and the Menendez Brothers. This show is off the rails.

I'm just saying as the kids and say it's off the rails. All right. Thank you so much, Amy Trask. Thank you. See you the next time I'm in this chair because God knows I don't come here without you and I'll be in my Looney Tunes. I love it.

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I am well. I just came back from speaking to the Kansas City Chiefs and local business partners. Um, and I am happy to report that everything is fine between me and the Chiefs and vice versa. It took two minutes for them to play a recording from the Rich Eisen show of me predicting the Raiders were going to win the division.

Um, so we got the elephant out of the room right away. Um, and then they, uh, placed a chief's pin on my lapel. Wow.

Susie, you'll be, you'll be happy to know I had a lapel to pin because I wore a sport coat. Thank you. And yeah, well, I mean, you know, um, I'm presenting and, um, and then at the end, they presented me with a super, a, a, a, a, a chief's number 57 for their Superbowl, um, victory in Superbowl 57 autographed by Patrick Mahone. Um, that is, and, and you'll be also happy to notice I'm having it sent to the studio, not home as well.

You said there's no place for that in our house. The famed photograph, the famed photograph of Travis Kelsey, the night of Henry Winkler appearing, um, with Mahone's Mahone's in the SoFi stadium, a, uh, as we all know, summit brokered by us on the Rich Eisen show. Um, Travis Kelsey wore that famed photo, uh, shirt of Fonzie family football.

They not only gave me one of those t-shirts, but need sizes of everybody on the Rich Eisen show to get one for themselves. Wow. Fantastic. Chris can put it under his desk. That's fantastic.

He could just, he could just take it and throw it right under his desk. And confirm. Um, next to the, the, the peeps, he got, uh, an East on the Easter show in 2015. Yep. But anyway, long story short is I will, I will return bearing gifts and everything is fine between our show and the chapes.

We're, we're all good. We've reset. So Rich, the day that Aaron Rogers comes in to New York, makes his way through the doors, greeted with just a, a, a, a vomitorium of adulation from the owner, from the coach, from the GM. The chiefs put a pin on you. They did?

The chiefs pin. Wow. Yes, they did. Just saying, I think they were making a statement. Yeah.

As soon as, as you know, uh, as the, as the first employee of NFL network, there's 32 teams in the NFL that I, I, I, I deal with and represent every day by presenting the NFL on a platform that, uh, I'm, you know, proud to say, uh, is ready for its 19th NFL draft coverage here in Kansas city. Uh, I would choose, however, a different word than vomitorium to describe the carpet that the Jets rolled out for their new future first ballot hall thing quarterback. Um, I would use a different word than that, but I would expect nonetheless from somebody from the new England area, salty new England. It's too bad. It's too bad. Same intensity as I told you, Chris, same intensity this fall. I would like the same intensity and I'll bring the same intensity. Uh, if it doesn't work out too.

And I know that that will only open myself up to more shenanigans from us. Did you watch any of the Aaron Rogers press conference? No, I didn't.

I just stepped off. So if you've got any soundbites I'm keen to hear, we want to make you happy. So I want you to listen to this talking about, uh, his plans on growing old with this team.

Let's, let's hear the first one. They smoked us last year. So I knew they had a good team. Uh, we got to practice against them a couple of years ago and I got to get to know Robert a little bit more. And I've always loved what he's all about. We played him in San Fran a few times and mostly they got the best of us.

Um, but I liked the way that he was leading his coaching style. Um, a big reason I'm here, I got to mention is Nathaniel Hackett who's here. Hack and I became really close friends for three, excuse me, three years in, in Green Bay. And I love him like a brother and I believe in him and I'm, uh, really happy to be back working with him again. Obviously Joe's got a great track record so far. I've drafted some incredible players.

He's been incredible players. Uh, but it takes a system and obviously Robert has the, uh, the right sauce. So I'm excited about getting to work with him and Brick and, uh, Mark Kwon, former teammate of mine. And, uh, it's a great staff, but you know, I'm an old, I'm an old guy, so I want to be a part of a team that could win it all. And I believe that this is a place we can get that done. Rich, as you like to say, the floor is yours.

Thank you. Um, do you think he, he, he understood what he was doing when he said that they had the sauce, the good sauce? Cause we know they drafted the sauce last year. That's one of those young players.

Look, uh, this is just, uh, this we're in the honeymoon, we're in the honeymoon phase. And, um, I, I just love the fact that the jets, as I mentioned yesterday, have the roster where he would want to come and have the people all laid out for him. That makes him feel comfortable. And whereas last year he might've felt aged out of that locker room.

He's going into a locker room with a whole bunch of young kids, um, where, you know, they're ready for him, I guess, in the same way that the other kids were kind of either wary or, you know, tiptoeing around this kind of feels more of a, of a situation that he could feel comfortable doing. And maybe that'll knock a few percentages off points off the feeling of retirement that he, uh, that everyone will ask him about. Right.

He did not commit to anything longer than just this year, I believe. And he also said that he saw only one Lombardi trophy in the case walking in the door and it looked lonely. I kind of liked that line too. That's a good one.

Um, so, um, I'm fired up, I'm fired up where it goes from here. I have no idea, but at least this has happened. Uh, the alternative, as I mentioned yesterday, wouldn't have been as good. Not really as good.

He did shed a little bit of light too, to what he referred to as the lack of communication with the Packers. Well, I mean, I don't know if I need to really get into the specifics. Um, I will say people that know me, uh, I'm fortunate to live in a, in a beautiful house. The only downside is I have very limited cell service. So if you want to get ahold of me, I have to see your face. You got to FaceTime me. So, so the only response to the communication thing is there's, you know, records in your phone about who called you, when, FaceTime.

And there wasn't any specific FaceTimes for many of those numbers that I was looking at. That's neither here nor there. Cause we're now we're this position. Um, obviously that's somehow, you know, what, uh, the direction they wanted to go as far as they couldn't, the story, they couldn't get ahold of me, which led for this to be the case. My point was if, if there was a change that wanted to be made, uh, why wasn't that told to me early in the off season? Now, obviously my future was on the side at that time. I didn't know if I wanted to keep playing.

I wanted to go into my darkness retreat and, and sit with it and contemplate. But when I came out, it was evident that it was, uh, retire or move on to a new team. So, which it sounds like he's auditioning to appear with Einstein in a Verizon commercial. Brilliant. Brilliant. You know, brilliant. Is that, is it that he said, wait a minute.

Bad cell reception is part of the reason why his relationship with the Packers went kaput. That's so Seinfeldian. It is so, so Seinfeldian. What are you? There it is. There it is.

This is even better. I don't know. Could this get any better? I don't know.

Can it get anybody? Look, uh, whatever it, there's, there's an aspect of this that, that keeps getting forgotten because it's a New York market and it's the jets. And obviously, you know, that's my focus, but this is still a Packers story. Uh, from that point of view is that Aaron Rogers isn't playing for green Bay his entire career, just like far. And then he's going to the jets just like far. And, you know, the last one wound up with far showing up in the Vikings uniform. I don't think that's going to happen this time around, but there is still enough people there in green Bay, who, if Jordan love does not perform well, this season will be like, so tell us again, why Rogers had to go. I mean, that's part of this storyline too. So I guess, um, that soundbite is all about, well, it's not my fault that they didn't reach out to me and the Packers are like, well, it's not our fault that this fell apart because we couldn't get to Aaron.

It's just whatever bottom line is, as he points out, he's a jet Jordan loves a Packer. Let's go, let's go. And let's see where this goes. And that the jets have a seat at the table that they did not have 48 hours ago. And that table is the AFC and that's, that's it.

I mean, clearly they were a member of the AFC 48 hours ago, but to have a table at the AFC playoff, um, to have a seat at that table where they can make a run in the playoffs, to have the ability to do it, they now have it where they didn't 48 hours ago. And let's see how it goes. I I'm, I am genuinely fired up about this and, um, I'm, I'm, I'm, I feel better about this than I did in 2008. Rich, you would like to know that he looked relaxed. He called every member of the New York media by name. I'm going to ask you this nicely. Can you put an end to this whole storyline narrative that he can't handle the NFL media in New York?

Because, oh, you've got to just enough. He's 39, 40 years old. He's grown up. Games have to be played. Games have to be played. Let's make, let's make a prediction. You and I, you know, we, um, we have a lot riding on this.

Um, I'm going to predict that he has them eating out of his hand that he's smart enough to manipulate them into, uh, doing his bidding. You're right. No, you're right.

You're, you're actually right. But one in three starts, two and four starts, three and five starts, four and five starts, four and five starts, three and five starts. I mean, this schedule, uh, you know, we, we, we have a full screen of it. I know we're up against the end of the show here, but bottom line is, you know, um, that's a hell of a schedule and those are, they're playing the AFC West, the NFC East in their own division. And that's why they had to do this too.

I mean, this, this would have been certainly for a make or break year potentially for the GM and the coach. Um, this had to happen. I'm glad it did. And I'm glad it went very well today. Onward. I want you to take a deep breath, Rich. He's there.

You can, you can relax now. Rich, I'm just glad you were able to join us, uh, today to celebrate a tradition unlike any other, uh, the Jets once again, winning the off season. They have. Don't forget they won the NFL honors night.

They did. The Jets win, the Jets win all the stuff that doesn't matter. And yet Aaron Rodgers refers to a lonely trophy case. Guess what?

He's a jet. I've been pinned by the chiefs. Doozy just conducted yet another terrific version of the rich eyes and show with all of you. Life is good. That's the way I'm going to go into the rest of my Wednesday.

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