REShow: Andy Serkis - Hour 3

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You in? And I know you're gonna love this Chris. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Every single person that I see tweeting about Lamar and how dare he not get any offers and how dare people say you know that they're out.

First of all, live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Why won't you go for Lamar Jackson? He's so damn good.

I mean to me he's worth the two firsts. Earlier on the show, host of Peacock's Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio, NFL Network Analyst Maurice Jones Drew. Coming up, from Netflix's Luther the Fallen Sun, actor Andy Serkis.

And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air the Friday before we find out the brackets. The Friday before we find out what happens in NFL free agency.

It is March and it is lit and the hell going on is gonna break out next week and it's gonna be awesome. Maurice Jones Drew, my colleague from the NFL Network who I'm gonna be doing the free agency frenzy show with next Monday. He stopped by.

What a great conversation we had just chopping it up with him. Mike Florio, an hour number one, giving us a preview of what's gonna happen next week. If you missed any of that, guess what? Right here on the Roku Channel. Stay tuned to Roku Channel 210. We re-air right away. If you missed it on this Rich Eisen Show terrestrial radio affiliate Sirius XM or Odyssey, there's our podcast.

You can listen to us every single day on demand for three hours every single day through the Cumulus Podcast Network where all podcasts are acquired. And we know earlier on in this program Chris Brockman mentioned that there is a lock on the door of Cage Brockman's room up from the outside in. The lock is unlocked because your son is here. He's actually strolling around the studio space right now like he's Bruce Dickinson from that SNL skit. He's exploring the Bruce Dickinson. He's exploring the studio space and there he is right there.

Take your son to work day. There he is. There he is. Do you want to go over your Jim Boeheim rant with him on your on your lap right now again? Or you want to? Okay.

Very good. Ladies and gentlemen, there goes Cage Brockman everybody. So he's here in hour number three.

Guess what? Andy Serkis is here as well. Planet of the Apes, Lord of the Rings. We also will be talking some some great times with him from his time with the Unluther on Netflix which is out now today as a matter of fact. The great Eirdris Elba playing Luther is back. A great show.

Andy Serkis also on Black Panther will go down a nice pop culture wormhole with one of the the most famous people on planet earth. Honestly, truly is and he is not a good person in Luther. He is uncool to say the least.

Absolutely. So we've got a lot going on here on this program. Your son is loose on this show.

What's up bud? There goes Sarah Tiana. Oh my gosh.

We should have a lock on the green room door. What the hell is going on? Wow.

All good. You know what's kind of crazy too? Look, we will never on this program ever. Not let a kid on? No, please stop it. It's a kid friendly spot. Yeah.

All the kids come. No, we will never criticize someone for giving us a soundbite. Absolutely.

I just I'm not gonna be one of those people criticizing someone to give us a soundbite. Should Fred Van Vliet lit up the refs after his game the other day? I don't think so. It cost him $30,000. He's gotten his money's worth I guess.

But you know we'll talk about it but I'm never gonna say what the hell is this guy saying unless of course it's beyond the pale in terms of propriety. There's that. Like for instance, on the flip side, you know, it may give us a drop and we may have our fun at the expense of somebody who can take the blow because the blow is feathered by the nest of ten billion dollars that he made in the last five minutes.

That helps. Brockman said he actually lost money this week. Oh, is that right? No, you didn't bet on the Grizz and the Warriors, did you? No, he said Balmer lost money. Oh, Balmer lost money, I get it.

Alright, well anyway. The Memphis Grizzlies, as I mentioned to you coming off of the NBA All-Star break, is my favorite team in the NBA because they talk. I've adopted them because they talk and they really don't have a leg to stand on talking because they don't have any championships and their best player has completely, I will say this, completely let his team down. Completely let his team down.

He is not available. Your best ability in sports is availability and Ja Morant is not available because whatever reason, for whatever reason, he hasn't hired his own private security, he's got to carry his own weapon around on the road five in the morning and he's Instagramming lobbing it out and he's not there. That said, in this day and age where everybody is like, hey, I'll go play with you. In this day and age where he's like, hey, let's swap jerseys after you kick my ass for 30 points. You know, hey, let's go have an All-Star game where, you know, we don't really try because we love each other. Kind of dig the Memphis Grizzlies. Talking the talk and I just hope for their sake they can walk the walk when it comes down to it and this week Draymond Green went on his podcast and lit up Dylan Brooks again because Dylan's the one who's, would you say, the chestiest of them all in Memphis?

That's a good assessment. Okay. Yeah, he says it with his chest. He says it with his chest and then Shannon Sharp says it with his cardigan.

Yes. That's the player who was involved in that moment and so boy did Draymond light up Dylan Brooks for talking without a ring and so last night the Memphis Grizzlies without Marant took care of business against Golden State and after the game in which he also went you know face-to-face with Draymond and tried to get Draymond teed up. Draymond didn't take that bait. This is what Brooks had to say after the game and of course he was asked about Draymond. What was the message that you had to Draymond?

That's what I do. I talk. I told him that, you know, keep that mic, he's better at the mic than pooping, you know what I'm saying? So keep doing this podcast, keep blogging, keep doing this thing off the court.

You know, it's cute, it's fun for him. And here's where Brooks has a leg to stand on, where he's, and his leg to stand on is, hey Draymond, yeah you got all those rings but in this here and now, early March, you're a blogger. You are, you're a podcaster because guess what the Warriors aren't doing right now, certainly on the road, winning and playing defense at all. I've never, I mean you want to talk about a stunning fall on the defensive side of the ball and I know they have injuries all season long and I am not discounting the Warriors, as you know, I chose them to win it back to back.

And so, you know, I know it's not, I'm not, you know, like sort of Monty Python, not dead yet. So, but here's a kid calling out Draymond Green for being a podcaster because the way that they're playing defense and the way that they're not winning on the road, Draymond reminds me of many of our representatives in Congress who seem to be spending time podcasting more than actually legislating and being serious about things because he's going on his pod and which is very popular for good reason because Draymond is gonna be a heck of a broadcaster when he decides to no longer play and presumably going to the Hall of Fame, I would imagine. Oh yeah. So how does Draymond respond? This was him on the podium after the game. Draymond, obviously this, I guess, called a rivalry now has obviously been heated on. It's not called a rivalry.

What's that now? This a rivalry? You want to call it that or no? If you want to call it that, but I disagree. All right, well, whatever you want to call it, I guess like. It's a basketball game.

No worries, no worries. Why don't you consider this a rivalry? Because you have to, like, one team has to win and then another team has to win. Then, like, that's what creates a rivalry. Not because one team gets up for you and talk like they can beat you and then not. That doesn't create a rivalry. Rivalries are created by you win, I win.

Clearly, we won four times and I think their organization has zero championships, so I can't consider that a rivalry. So when you say win, you ain't talking about in March, you're talking about. I mean anybody can win in March. Anybody can win in March. What'd that mean?

I have a hard time getting out of my bed in March. Great sound bites, just great, and I have to, since we are in this world of sports talk, I have to side with Draymond. Wait a minute, Rich, you're gonna give him a 10-9 round? I gotta give Draymond a 10-9 round, because the ring is the thing, isn't it?

Yeah. But I'm not gonna say Dylan Brooks keep your mouth shut, because clearly this is this is the fuel to his fight, and they need him. Marantz out, Steven Adams is getting stem cells shot into his knee.

Give him the shot. It's stem cells right there in his knee. Jaren Jackson, one of the main tentpoles of my fantasy team. God, do I love him.

You know? Can Luke Kennard present that three-point outside shooting threat that only, I guess, Desmond Bain provides? Yes, Luke Kennard can, I'll tell you that. Okay, so this is what's happening right now for Memphis. So if Dylan Brooks has to keep yapping, then you keep yapping.

You be you. But Draymond is absolutely right when it all comes down to it. What's the rivalry? You know, what's the rivalry? In that respect, who would be, who would be Grant, Golden State's rival? You know, I thought that. Milwaukee?

You know, like who would it be? Is it Boston? They played Cleveland. Is it the Cavs? Four years in a row in the finals, it felt like.

Yeah, but that was LeBron. That's not even the same squad. So who in his mind would be considered their rival? Well, they can't have one if he's gonna just go revert back to the championship argument, because if that's the case, then they have no rival, right? Spurs, but that team's over. They're all retired. So they technically don't really have one.

If you're just gonna use the titles. How many NBA teams actually have a rival? It's like the old rivalries. It's Celtics-Lakers. I guess it's, I guess it's whichever team LeBron's on. I guess, but they're not even good. The Bucks have one. But they didn't play Golden State in the finals.

Correct. They beat Phoenix. Could it be Durant on Phoenix?

I don't know if it exists. All I know is that I understand Draymond says a rivalry is if they win one and then we win one, right? I get it, but if Memphis and Golden State wind up playing each other in the first round of the playoffs, count me in. I'm there. Rich, well if the season starts today, is that what it would be?

They would. Memphis is the three seed by virtue of losing a tiebreaker to Sacramento, and Golden State has the tiebreaker over the Timberwolves and Mavericks. So I think whoever has that series, ESPN, TNT, NBA TV, it's like stop the count. Stop the count. Stop the count. And this is a series where home court is probably gonna play an advantage. I don't know. I just have to believe that the Warriors will clamp down when the playoffs start.

You would think so. Dude, they have the same road record as the worst team in the NBA, the Detroit Pistons. 7-26. I can't imagine that's the way it's gonna be late April. Just can't. Because they are champions and that's what Draymond's saying. Draymond's like, Dylan Brooks is sitting there saying, okay, podcaster.

And Draymond's response is like, I can't listen to old Patrick Wollan. I can't hear you. I can't hear you through my rings. Sorry, my rings are in my ears.

I can't hear you. And that's a good retort. But great sound bites, gents. Keep them coming.

I like it. Alright, What's More Likely is coming up as a stirring conclusion to our Friday show in our week of waiting for Aaron Rodgers. And when we come back, though, my chat with one of the most famous actors on planet Earth. His name is Andy Serkis. He's in the new Luther film. And you know him from Lord of the Rings, Planet of the Apes, Black Panther, and so much more.

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Joining me now here on the Rich Eisen Show is one of the stars of Luther the Fallen Son, available for streaming today only on Netflix, one of the highest grossing actors in the history of cinema. Joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show, Andy Serkis. How you doing, Andy? Hey, Rich, how you doing?

Yeah, good, thanks. What a pleasure to meet you. What a pleasure to meet you in person. You too.

Or over Zoom. What an incredible movie this is. First of all, it's great to see Luther back in action. I'm just wondering how much of a fan you are of the television series now being part of the film here, Andy? I was a huge fan when the series, you know, when it started off, and always have been. Idris is such a formidable actor, and in that role, it's his role. He's born to play that part, and he owns it so totally. So I was thrilled to come on board, you know, for the movie version of it, which is, you know, the great thing about the movie is that you don't actually need to have seen the TV series. It's a standalone piece in its own right, but it'll delight the fans who have grown up with the series too.

So it works both ways. It definitely touches all the touch points of the Luther television series, and then seeing you in it is just also, to use the word, a delight, although I don't know what that means about me as a psychological human being if I say your character delights, Andy. Yeah. You know, that's a very good point because I nearly didn't take this part because it was so dark, and I just thought, do I really want to spend time inside this person's head? You know, life's complicated enough as it is, but I literally wanted to have a shower and throw the script in the bin when I read it, you know, it was that bad. And then I thought, you know what, this is actually a villain of our times because although he is a monster, he is a monster, he's a psychopath and a killer, as you say, but part of the monster is the technological world that we have all completely handed over responsibility to, which is, of course, the internet, and the way that he uses that to manipulate and to surveil people and watch them in their own homes using their own devices.

You know, it's a very, very kind of, why I actually went for the role in the end was because of the debate, I think, about technology and how we've become powerless and sort of given up almost, yeah, responsibility there. Well, studying your filmography would take my full day, Andy, so excuse me for just asking directly, is this the first time you've worked with Idris Elba or you have worked with him before? No, it's actually the first time, although our paths have crossed over the years and we've always wanted to work together. And, you know, I think we're both similar in the sense that as well as being actors, we have other, you know, parts, strings to our bow, I direct and produce and he produces and he's a DJ and, you know, we have lots of, I think we really respect each other as sort of storytellers and communicators of ideas and so on and so forth. So it was really great to finally actually act opposite each other. Well, and so many folks here in America, Andy, got to meet him through the television show The Wire and then were absolutely stunned that he's actually not American and he's not from Baltimore and that's how good he is.

And now, you know, having a thrilled chance to meet you and see that you're not a psychopath or, you know, a golem or a primate, it's pretty, it's pretty neat to see. So how did you first get started in the business? How did you first get rolling, Andy? Well, I started actually at college doing visual arts and I had no intention of becoming an actor. And then in the first year at college, you had to do a subsidiary kind of course. And so there was a very strong theatre studies department and I started making props and designing posters for the shows and gradually over the course of the first year I started acting in little roles in theatre and then by the end of the first year I was playing a lead role and I went, that's it, this is what I want to do. It was a big sort of epiphany and then I started doing a lot, in the early years I just did tons and tons of theatre, then started working in TV slowly and then in film and then, you know, come 2000s and the big canvas films kind of started opening up with Lord of the Rings. And Lord of the Rings was your first big break, is that what you would say in that regard?

I've done a lot of British independent movies but that was certainly kind of on the global sort of front, that was definitely a big, a seismic shift as it were. I imagine so. So on this programme, Andy Serkis here on The Rich Eisen Show, sometimes I'll have to mention who's here because we also simulcast on the radio, we do a segment called Celebrity True or False, certainly with folks like yourself who have been in so many incredible pop culture touchstone films and television shows to cover your entire landscape, where I ask you if something's true or false based on something that we've read, if you don't mind playing along with me Andy Serkis.

Absolutely. Celebrity True or False here with Andy Serkis. Let's start with Lord of the Rings. You based the voice of Gollum, true or false Andy Serkis, on the sound of your cats when they made a sound of coughing up fur balls, is that true or false? That is 100% true, yeah, I was looking for something that was a physical action that also, you know, that would influence the vocal sound and Diz, our cat, walked in and coughed up a fur ball in front of me and I thought, that is it, you know, that's the Gollum sound. So when you pitched that, when you pitched your Gollum sound, did you have to explain where it came from or how did that tell that? I didn't pitch it because I had to audition and the thing is, a lot of people think, oh, it was a kind of a voice, in fact it was described to me first as a voice acting role but it wasn't and I remember crawling up onto the chair in front of the casting director and then starting to talk as Gollum and a very prototype version of it, you know, so it started off with the coughing up of the fur ball, so it was a, you know, and that became Gollum, Gollum, Gollum, Gollum, and so I was doing that and they were kind of like, this is weird, this is so strange and then Peter Jackson saw it and went, oh yeah, he's the guy. So that's what he said, so and I guess I am mandated to ask because I talk to my dogs all the time, have you ever talked to, did you ever talk to Diz the cat in that voice and communicate with the cat? In that voice, no, I don't think I've ever done that.

We have two cats, this was a long time ago, we have two new cats and we do talk to, our family talks to them as if they're human beings, so we're a bit weird like that. Very good. Is it true or false, Andy Serkis, that you own one of two prop rings used in Lord of the Rings, the other went to Elijah Wood who played Frodo Baggins, is that true or false?

That's 100%, Peter Jackson gave it to me on my birthday in 2003 when we were doing the final pick-ups for the Return of the King and the very day he asked me to play King Kong and he presented me with the ring from the Two Towers and it was an amazing gift, amazing thing. So where is it now? I can't tell you that. Okay. I mean, it's hidden in a cave.

I don't want to get you in trouble. I guess then let me just ask a macro question before moving on is what is it like to play a performance capture actor? I cannot imagine the physical and the mental that's required for you to go and become another being that you can't really even see at the time.

I mean, what is that endeavour like? Well, it's really interesting, you know, a lot of people have asked me this question and I have to explain it in terms of the acting process. When you become a character, you know, my way into a character, obviously you're building a psychological profile, a physicality, a vocal, you know, the voice comes out of those, the understanding of who that person is and where that character carries his pain or tension or whatever.

So when you play a motion capture or performance capture, as you rightly call it, because performance capture is the capturing of the entire performance, the facial expressions, the body, everything all at once and audio. It's actually like wearing a digital manifestation of the character. So the process of acting is no different to any other form of acting where I'd be wearing a costume and make-up. You're still getting inside that character's head, mind, soul, body, etc. But it's just instead of putting on a costume and make-up, your manifest is with digital costume and make-up. That's the easiest way to explain it. So there's no specific, I mean obviously if you're playing an ape, then you have to research apes and you learn how to move and, you know, behave as an ape. But what I'm saying is it's not a particular type of acting as such. It's acting both sides, you know, like conventionally and then with a mocap suit on. It's remarkable.

It truly, truly is. I've got a few more celebrity true or false concepts here for the great Andy Serkis here on the Rich Eisen Show. True or false, the Coldplay song Adventure of a Lifetime and the now 1.4 billion downloaded, viewed on YouTube music video of Adventure of a Lifetime with Coldplay, the band members are all chimpanzees and you are the performance capture consultant with the idea of the video born out of you, Andy Serkis, running into Chris Martin on an airplane. Is that true?

That's 100% true. I bumped into Chris. Now, Chris is also a very, very close friend of a director who I made a film with. Matt Whitecross directed me in a film called Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll about Ian Drury, the famous proto-punk, you know, singer of the 1970s. And he had shot all of their videos. He grew up with Chris Martin and all of Coldplay at college. So Matt and he were very close. But I was sitting on the plane and he tapped me on the back and he said, Andy, we're about to shoot our new video.

We don't really know what we're doing, but we really fancy the idea of using performance capture. So I said, well, what are you thinking? And he said, we don't know. And so I said, well, look, come to the Imaginarium, which is our studios, and then we'll put any number of different avatars up that you can play. And he went and he looks at all these different creatures and beings that you can sort of off the peg, you know, plug in and then sort of get into the suit and control. And he just went, no, I want to be a chimpanzee. So this whole thing. And so literally they came in in the morning, decided they want to be chimpanzees, and we shot the whole thing.

And Matt, my friend who directed Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll, directed it. And, you know, I consulted a little bit about movement and so on. And then it was all done in one day. And then, of course, the animation process takes a while to complete. But but it was it was just so that they it was just so kind of in the moment. And, you know, you arrive at the end of the day and we shot the whole thing.

It was amazing. So if he didn't tap you on the shoulder on an airplane, that video that's been again downloaded one point four billion times may not have been made, is what you think. I think that's absolutely I think that's probably true. Oh, my gosh.

A couple more here for you. True or false, Andy Serkis, you cracked a rib on the first take of shooting your fight scene as Ulysses Klaw with Chadwick Boseman in the Black Panther. Is that true?

That is absolutely true. What happened? It was it was just an unfortunate kind of moment where where Ulysses Klaw got up. I got up quickly, a little too quickly.

And Chad was coming the other way too quickly with his knee and it went straight in. And this was on the first take. It was all night shoots. I just I'd not long been off a plane.

I'd flown in and it was it was kind of one of the climactic scenes where he captures Ulysses Klaw before he takes him for interrogation. And yet literally the first take, I felt it go. And it was like, oh, no, I've got to do this all night and I've broken a rib. And I didn't say anything to anyone because I knew that we had to shoot this.

So there was no way that we couldn't do it. And I just I had to just gently say to Chad, you know, just make me take it back a bit, take it back a bit. And we proceeded to shoot it all night long.

And I was like, by the end of it, I was so done. What was it like shooting with him? Chad, I such a sad loss. He's such an incredible human being. Was and, you know, and was such a great leader on that film and such a spiritual man and kind of the energy that he created around himself. And and therefore the way it affected the whole shoot was extraordinary. It was a real honor to work with him. You know, I can't quite believe he's not around.

Me too. Last one for you. True or false, Andy Serkis, all the prison factory machines in Andor were real and you were actually assembling parts on those scenes in Andor. Is that true?

100 percent true. The most amazing set. I mean, and it works so fantastically well. And all of the crews, all of the actors and supporting artists had to learn. There's a lot of rehearsal to to make all that stuff come together and look as if we've done it a billion times. You know, so so it was it was it was it's really thrilling when you get to walk onto a real set that functions. And and, you know, it's tangible.

Everything's tangible is rather than it being a volume or, you know, or green screen. It really affects you. And that and those sets really made you feel desensitized as well. Because, you know, walking around bare feet on metal plates all day long and those paper suits, it was it really did remove your identity. It was so weird what it did to you. I bet.

So and the floors were not really electrified then. Right, Andy? No.

We stopped that. And so the last we saw of your characters, you turn to Andor and say, I can't swim as you were all diving to safety. Spoiler alert. Does that mean maybe you survive the fall and the swim, Andy?

I mean, is that possible for a season two? What do we what do we think here? I always I always say never say never, quite frankly.

So, you know, and I really don't know what's what's going to happen, whether or not he'll return. But but I like it when they leave it, leave it open like that. I do. And I'd love to. Well, I would love that.

I would truly love that. And I've enjoyed this chat as well. You're awesome in this this film of Luther.

Again, it's called Luther, The Falling Sun, available for streaming today on Netflix. You're just awesome in everything that you do. This has been an absolute pleasure to chat with you. And I know I've I know I've kept you a long time, but we're also a sports show. Are you are you a sport fan and in any way? Yeah, football support, Arsenal and we're going to win the league. So, you know, OK, so Arsenal is your team. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my sons as well.

They're massive, massive Arsenal fans. And wonderful. What a pleasure to meet you, Andy Serkis. Thanks again for your time. Congratulations on Luther being as awesome and you being awesome. And I hope we get to do this in person next time. Thank you.

Yeah, that would be that would be great. OK, look forward to it. Richard, take care. It's Andy Serkis. Follow him at Andy Serkis on Twitter and Instagram right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Fun chat right there.

Fun chat. I just I mean, the guy's been in absolutely done it all. Everything.

Yeah. Let's take a break. We've got when we come back, phone calls. We have also what's more likely before we get into the weekend and Dolphins quarterback news. Oh, and gee, that's coming up next right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Don't go anywhere. Take you to the weekend. Hey, we outside sauce gardener making video in his backyard last night with Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall burning the cheese head that he strolled around in victory in Lambeau Field as a sacrifice to Aaron Rodgers.

All buried, buried in all axes, you know, the grind and whatever buried hatchets and cheese. I don't know why we have. Why haven't we heard anything yet?

You heard your entire. Why have we not heard any process on this course? Why haven't we heard anything yet? I don't know what's happening. It's Friday. It's going to happen over the weekend. Is it going to happen on Monday, Tuesday?

What's going on? I would imagine it happens over the next 48 hours. Negotiation period starts on Monday. So, well, Aaron needs to make a decision to the Packers and figure out what they're going to do in free agency so the Jets can get their ducks line in a row. What if suddenly Odell's coming? What if suddenly Odell to the Jets might be coming? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. It's FaceTime and Odell I just saw. Be quiet with that nonsense. You don't know. I just saw it.

Be quiet. What did you just see? Sauce, FaceTime and Odell. Oh, really? Sauce is putting in work.

I love it. Yes, Sauce. Yes, Sauce. Sauce is putting in work. Odell's at the barber?

By the way, hold on a second. Doesn't matter where he is. He looks like he's at the barber. You know what he's doing? You know where he is?

Doesn't matter where he is. He's on a FaceTime with Sauce Gardner. Let me express something to you about Sauce Gardner. I did not think when I fell completely head over heels for him at first sight at the combine last year. When I came back from Indianapolis in 2022, I said, I know who I want for the Jets.

And I said, I'll do a segment on it. You probably thought somebody else other than Sauce Gardner. I'm like in. I spoke it into existence and I then watched what he did in year one that was my best expectation. First team all pro?

Yeah, I bet. I did not see first team all pro coming. I thought maybe Pro Bowl if we're lucky, what have you. What I didn't see coming would be in between year one and year two that Sauce Gardner would already have the ability to recruit on behalf of the New York Jets and be viewed by the people he's recruiting as a legit reach out. On behalf of the Jets. Hey, come here.

You come here. You Aaron Rodgers, you come here. You at Odell Beckham, you come here, which is brash. But do you think Aaron Rodgers would be like this kid?

Do you think Odell was like, who? This kid? Really?

Nah. He has already achieved the status of one name. We get it.

And plus, he gets it. One name. He's Sauce. He's Sauce.

That's it. Everyone knows Sauce. He's Sauce. And he's legit.

He's a legit reach out as a recruiter for the Jets. Oh, man. Thank you, Sauce. You're the man.

You keep FaceTiming and burning cheese heads in your backyard. Hey, let me ask you this. You did a little man right there. You got with Sauce during the combine, right? I did. Did you swap numbers? No, I mean, no, because he was getting out and I was, man, I don't have time to be swapping too many numbers at the combine. Yeah, you're kind of busy.

Commercial breaks are going. We can't FaceTime Sauce right now. Chris, you knew where I was going with it. Oh, no, I don't have it.

I should be able to get it. You knew where I was going, Chris. By the way, you're striking out. I haven't gotten a text back from Robert Salah or Joe Namath. I'm striking out. You didn't FaceTime. I shouldn't listen to you.

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I like Tua, man. Is he going to be healthy? That's the question. He takes one more hit, and then what?

That's the ultimate question. Let's hope so. I know. Let's hope so. Because we're all Tua fans, right? But every single sign that we're looking, we're just looking for any sign from Miami that they don't covet him anymore, and every single thing you hear out of Mike McDaniel's mouth and now from this report shows you they like him.

They like him a lot. But boy, do we need to see him take a hit, get up, and play a full 17-game season. And if there's something that happens in May or June, then we'll revisit the issue. And obviously, if it's before the franchise tag period is up, then Lamar can potentially go there after the draft. But Miami's not thinking that. They're like, full steam ahead, free agency's being hit, draft is coming, Tua's our guy.

That's it. Would you trade two number ones after the draft? Two number ones and Tua for Lamar Jackson?

What do you mean? If you're Miami, you pick up the option to secure the number that you trade. Baltimore wouldn't take it back. Baltimore wouldn't take Tua back with two number ones?

I don't think so. What, just to get through the season? I guess, because if it's after the draft, I don't know. As you know, Baltimore could just match an offer. And the offer is just an offer sheet contractually, and it's just two number ones.

Now they could call him up and say, let's do another deal. Want to throw Tua in on top of it? To say, we'll give you Tua, you just don't match.

We'll give you Tua, here's the two number ones. Boom, boom. Let's swap quarterbacks. You heard what MJD said. MJD would do it yesterday. He would do it yesterday.

With any team. Alright, it's time for the Friday staple. What's more likely right here on the Rich Eisen Show? What's more likely?

Never say never, but never. Alright, Christopher, what do you got? Let's gallop through this thing here.

Alright, let's get through it. Talk a lot about Daniel Jones, talk a lot about the Jets this week, guys. Let's assume, for years' sake, and Jets fans everywhere, Aaron Rodgers goes to the Jets.

Yeah? Who's more likely to have more wins in 2023, Giants and Jets? Rodgers and the Jets, get out of here with that. And I know that the Jets schedule is really tough.

Really tough. But Rodgers with this Jets team, with Garrett Wilson, in a healthy Breece Hall, in a healthy offensive line, and if they don't get too hurt by Green Bay in terms of draft compensation, the Jets will have their one this year, and hopefully have their two, and have their cake and eat it. As well. So, I'll take the Jets with Aaron Rodgers. No hesitation.

Put a pin in that. What else, Chris? I agree with you on that, Rich.

Thank you, sir. Alright, with all the rumored moves of quarterbacks, maybe Lamar goes to Washington. Maybe Aaron Rodgers does go to the Jets.

That makes so much sense to me. What's more likely to be the best quarterback division in 2023? AFC West, AFC East, NFC East.

I'll still go AFC West. You know the three of them that'll be in there. You know that.

You know that. I don't know who the AFC East is going to be just yet. And the NFC East, I don't know, like right now, if the floor is Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and Herbert.

Everyone's chasing them. I got it. But what if it's Rodgers, Brady, and Josh Allen? Rodgers, Brady, and Josh Allen would trump it.

You know what I mean? It would trump that. Or Hertz, Lamar, and Dak. That would trump it, I would think. But would Hertz, Lamar, and Dak trump Rodgers, Allen, and Brady?

I don't know. That's pretty good. I think you better put some respect on Pickett, Watson, and Burrow. That was all I'm saying.

We need Brady to come back. Let's just be honest. It's just more fun. Tom, just leave out a bowl of tender vittles for the kid.

As if it was that simple. Rich, have you ever had a cat? They're self-sufficient, man. I have two cats. Cats don't even want to be bothered. I'm more of a dog person, but there you go.

That is a beautiful looking kitty kitty. What else you got over there, Chris? NFC West team to get back to the playoffs after a rough 2022. Rams or Cardinals? Rams. Cardinals are going to be in a bad spot, man. Jonathan Gannon is going to be taking shots from a lot of places. Lambeau is saying the Rams are shopping Matthew Stafford.

Get out of here. I know what Lambeau might be saying. It may be true, but I don't think they're shopping Stafford. You heard yesterday Les Snead say that he's a pillar around here.

It's lying season. I know. I get it.

I get it. I think the Rams are, nobody's talking about them. We had a Rams announcer here and they won the Super Bowl two years ago. We didn't ask one question. Well, because I think more nationally of interest is Rogers and Lamar Jackson right now.

But I didn't stutter. Oh my God. I think the Cardinals have a very challenging season ahead of them. And Jonathan Gannon is going to, you know, probably knows that going in.

But I think the Rams can be very good this year. Very good. Interesting. What else? 13 team win from last year. Okay.

Very specific. Take a step back in 2023. Bills or Niners? This is what time of year? I'll go 49ers at this point in time. Brock Purdy had surgery today. He won't be able to throw for another three months. And as much as I love Trey Lance, I mean, you're in the quarterback driven league. We're going to go with Trey Lance over Josh Allen. How's that?

Just for off the top of my head, my response. Well, AFC. Tough AFC.

It's Derrick Henry. How do we feel about it now? Okay.

Well, a little different maybe. Yikes. Not saying that's not possible. Are you reporting? How's that for word salad? I'm not reporting a damn thing. Not this week. I'm done with this week.

That's I'm moving on from that. How about this one? This one's this one's hot.

Okay. This one's hot. Future Hall of Fame coach on the bigger hot seat going into next year.

Like Tomlin or Bill Belichick. Neither. So stupid and dumb.

Not an answer. Gotta choose one. Stupid and dumb.

No. Gotta choose one. Dumb and stupid. Gotta choose one. Dumb and dumber.

Nope. Choose one. Dumb and dumber. Hey, Richie. I'll go Belichick. He's been on my hot seat for years. I understand.

That's why. Tomlin hot seat. Get out of here, man. Rich. Dumb and dumber.

Maybe he should be worried, though, because Brockman obviously had some power. Hot seat. He wanted Boeheim out. Gone.

Out. This is the Rich Eisen Show basketball podcast. Adam called out the Bulls. Bulls beat the Nuggets. Maybe Brockman has some type of weird power we all know about.

As we've seen this week, this Rich Eisen Show's got a megaphone. All right. Last one. Some hoops real quick. Which of TJ's teams make a deeper playoff run? Sixers or Clippers? Sixers. Sixers. Sixers. Sixers. Sixers. Sixers. Sixers.

Well, when you say deeper, when they meet in the finals, then how does that work? All right. Wow. Wow.

I believe in Doc. I'm with the Sixers. Wow. Although I love Ty Lue, man. Yeah.

You've got two good teams to root for. I do. But there's only one that has a new place with over 1,000... Boilings. There you go.

1,106. There you go. That's so many. But who's counting? Nobody. Great.

What's more likely, everybody? That's so many. All right. Thank you to today's guests, Andy Serkis.

Yeah. That was great, man. Thank you to the studio and MJD for being here in studio. Next we meet. The hell going on month is up and running.

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