REShow: Rich Eisen - Hour 1 (3-1-2023)

This is the Rich Eisen Show. Rich Eisen. Oh, that's Suzy Eisen's husband. With guest host Suzy Schuster live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Josh McDaniel spoke. I mean, I think there's always urgency at that position.

Do you want Aaron Rodgers or not? That's the one thing here. Today's guest, former Raiders CEO Amy Trask, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Suzy Schuster. Hi, everybody. Suzy Schuster here with you all.

Rich Eisen is at the Combine in Indianapolis, thrilled to be in the seat as I always am with my guys across the way from me. Mike Del Tufo. I have to go to Mike first, Chris, because, you know, we just said today it's been 20 years of Mike-ing up.

Yes. 20 years. That's a lifetime, Chris Brockman. And even though I love you.

Before I knew Rich. You did. And I like that about you. And I like where your loyalty lies. And I do appreciate that very much. Suzy, you are my I love you.

You know that. Oh, Mike, you're one of my favorites. Don't make me cry. My makeup's too good.

Don't make me cry. Chris Brockman, good morning. How are you? Good afternoon.

Where you might be around the country. How are you, Chris? I'm great. I got some doughnuts. We're going to drink some mimosas here. Life is good.

Yeah. Once again, I never come empty handed to the Rich Eisen Show set here in El Segundo, here on the Roku Channel, Westwood One, wherever you find your podcast. TJ Jefferson has lit the candle, and I'm thrilled about that. TJ, make sure that's the bottle I didn't drop, because I dropped one in the parking lot. Luckily, it did not shatter. I really don't know which one this is, but we're going to find out soon. But I tell you what, I appreciate Del Tufo going all like Rock and Roll, Nighttime Bow Wow, talking to you just, hey, Suzy, it's been a long time.

I love you. Why did you have the champagne over there, by the way? Because I went and got the champagne. You see, you never go get the champagne.

I have to go in the back and get the champagne, so that's why I have. You also just said a lot of things I didn't understand. Rockin' and rockin' something or other. Mike got real deep when he was talking to you with his voice, and I just found that to be, did you find that weird, Chris? Like he just got like real radio DJ voice. The thing is, Mike hasn't been here in a while. It's been like a week since he's been here, right?

Oh, there we go. Bring out the champagne and the orange juice. And it was just like, hey, I miss you. I can't believe we're here. Well, bring it out, Liz.

It's been 20 years. What's going on? I like to think of this as a morning salutation instead of the kind of pervy stuff that you guys are getting at. This is a family show, and I'd like to remind you all to please keep it PG.

Reminds me of when I almost dropped a really bad, bad word, bad word on TNT once in the middle of watching Deadwood. Really? But that's a whole other story.

Everybody, great to see you. That's a story we need to hear. Oh, it's not. I mean, I would have been fired. It would have been great. I mean, letter F. Oh, worse. I mean, I think it was F. No, it was like started with the scene ended with an R. And it was a really good thing. You know, I was dead.

You can use your imagination. Hi, everybody. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Rich Eisen show. Suzy Schuster in for Rich Eisen, who is in Indianapolis. He will be calling it at nine twenty. I am wearing this outfit.

Well, first of all, I wear black all the time, so who am I kidding? But also, you guys, second hour of this show is a serious, serious female power situation. Amy Trask, former CEO of the Raiders, also known as the princess of darkness, the greatest, greatest, greatest moniker of all times. She's here. And by the way, she's here. And I'm probably going to handcuff her to this chair because I have so many questions. I want to hear from Amy her thoughts on what's happening in Green Bay.

I want to hear a little bit of management speak. I want to know what she's thinking when Aaron Rodgers says I've come out of the darkness and I'm back into the light. And I want to pick her brain on that, because quite honestly, what does all this mean? What does all this mean?

What are we saying here? He's come out of the light, but has he come back to Green Bay? Because it sure sounded like Brian Gudekunst yesterday didn't quite jar with this whole lightness thing that Aaron Rodgers is talking about.

We can go to Aaron Rodgers first. Let's hear from him because he was on the Aubrey Marcus podcast on ESPN. He had this to say about his experience. I feel really good about about the conversations that that are going to be had that have been had with important people in my life, yourself included, that helped to orient me. But I'm not looking for somebody to tell me what the answer is.

All the answers are right inside me. And I touched many of them and definitely the feelings on both sides during the darkness. And I'm thankful for that time. But there's a finality to the decision and I don't make it lightly. I don't want to drag anybody around. Look, I'm answering questions about it because I got asked about it. I'm talking about it because it's important to me. You don't like it when you think it's drama.

They're going to be in a diva or whatever and just tune it out. It's fine. But this is my life. It's important to me. And I'll make a decision soon enough and then we'll go down that road and be really excited about it.

That was Aaron Rodgers, of course. And here's my question, Chris Brockman. Is this his decision to make? And I want to run another soundbite now from Brian Gudekunz that was yesterday that kind of brought this all into question. Yeah, really no updates. You know, again, I think like I was talking earlier, haven't had the conversations that we need to have yet.

Really, really no update. Looking forward here to being an M.D. and look at these prospects and help this football team. Who initiates when those conversations will take place where they are? Yeah, there's been some contact back and forth. Obviously, he's had some things on his plate, but hopefully those things will happen soon. Do you want him back as the quarterback in effect? Yeah, I think those discussions have to happen and making sure that it's the right fit.

But obviously we know the kind of player that Aaron is. And once we have those conversations, we'll be able to move forward with a lot more to say. Yeah, the words in question are making sure it's a great fit.

Making sure it's a great fit. Yeah, we played that yesterday and that's kind of the phrasing that sticks out. It's just so crazy. I just can't say this enough how Aaron Rodgers sat there for three years while Brett Favre did his hemming and hawing, retire, un-retire, come back, not come back, ultimately trade me thing.

And then, you know, how not to do everything, right? And then he ends up doing the exact same thing in a weird way that Favre kind of did, including maybe flirting with the Jets. And it's just, it seems like Brian Gudekunz has kind of moved on. It seems like Green Bay has, they haven't come out and explicitly said that they've turned the page to Jordan Love and that Jordan Love is our guy now.

He did say that Jordan Love can be a starter in the league, which makes you think that they're kind of leaning in that direction. But it just seems like, hey Aaron, do what you want, but we're kind of ready to go to Jordan if you want out. Do you want out? Can we push you out?

Look at some of these other places. You know, it just seems like they're ready to move on while Aaron's just like, well, it's my decision and it's my life and I'm going to take my time and think about it. Like, bro, it ain't up to you. It seems like Green Bay is ready to be done with this. Yeah, there's 60 million reasons to make this decision pretty quickly and I don't think it's his choice at all, Chris. Right, Green Bay would love to get out from under that contract. Like, they even said if Aaron does come back, he's going to have to restructure the deal.

And so they're going to have to come in at a lower number and be a little more cap friendly, you know, so they're not paying this credit card bill in a couple of years when it's due. And it just seems the Love era is here in Green Bay and where Aaron plays, if he wants to play next year, it's going to be somewhere else. Whether it's New York or Tennessee has been one that's been popping up or Las Vegas, I guess we'll see. But it seems like Aaron's done in Green Bay. And, you know, I was reading yesterday about the Niners. They've been talking about finding these veteran quarterbacks. They're going to need somebody else to come in there. Suddenly Aaron Rodgers becomes veteran quarterback TBD.

Where does he go? Yeah, Green Bay would never help out. No, never.

You know, it's kind of spanked them in the playoffs the last few years. But I mean, who wouldn't want to love to play? Money's money. Money's money. I mean, you just I mean, you would think not.

But, you know, I just think that money's money talks pretty loud. I don't know. I don't know.

Who knows? We'll see what happens with Aaron Rodgers. But once your money go a little bit further in Wisconsin, though, then wouldn't it, though? But those houses that you see around the stadium in Green Bay, those little tiny houses that are wonderful, terrific, warm little houses with driveways. Those are expensive. Driveways and yards? Those are expensive driveways.

Are they as expensive as a house with a driveway in, say, La Jolla or wherever? I mean, we could start Zillowing during the show if you'd like, TJ. That would make for a much more interesting show. But I mean, you know, we could start Zillowing. It could have a new show. This could be part of the Rich Eisen, you know, show expansion on Roku.

Real Estate in Las Vegas is popping these days. Right. I mean, don't you think that's a great fit? Yeah, it's a great fit, especially when, you know, you're the best wide receiver you've ever played with is now there and being like, all right, my college BFF is gone. But hey, Aaron, you should come here. That would be awesome.

Come throw me some more touchdowns. A lot of holistic retreats in the greater Las Vegas area. Oh, the desert darkness and light. Hey, look, Susie, you've been to the spas at the Vegas casinos.

They're awesome. Sound baths. A little pricey, but hey, sign me up. He might be able to afford it. I mean, I think that maybe Aaron's got some loose change in his pocket that could pay for some of those sound baths. Money goes a little further in Nevada.

No income tax. Well, it's a good thing that we have Amy Trask on because she's going to help us decipher this. We're going to throw a couple of things at her and see if she can help us figure out what's going on, TJ, because I'd like to know. Rich doesn't want Aaron Rodgers on the Jets. Like, what do you think about that fit? He doesn't. It seems like he does not, TJ, right?

It doesn't seem like it. He's flat out come out and said, I don't want. He just doesn't think it would be a fit. What does he want? He wants to continue to languish in mediocrity.

Apparently, Susie, that's what he wants. I think Rich is afraid of winning because Rich has been a lovable loser when it comes to the Jets for his entire life. And suddenly if they get Aaron Rodgers and they win something, what is his identity? So what are you saying, that he's like the George Costanza of the NFL world where he just wants to sit back and complain?

Yeah, Charlie Brown. It's more fun for him to get up here and lament about, well, this always happens to the Jets and the trapdoor this and the injury there and the coaches and Rich Kotak and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, what if you win?

Then what? That's a very New England way of looking at things. That's like very angry and bitter, which, by the way, does probably fall into play for Rich. But that said, I think that he would be desperate to see just just a couple wins. But this whole idea of like, I won't take I don't really want Aaron Rodgers, like, who are we kidding?

So fast. I mean, I think that's ridiculous. No, I said that like a month ago to him and he continues to shoot the idea down. It seems like he's ready for Derek Carr. But while still like hoping Zach Wilson is good, which I don't really understand. But why don't you understand it?

Because. Breaking news, he's he's OK. I mean, that's not who I want to lead my franchise.

No, he's not a franchise. But Rich is like still holding out hope that Zach Wilson kind of becomes the man. But that's fairly typical, right? That's like that's like waiting for Godot. That's like waiting for Santa when you're like twenty five. Kind of know that Santa's not coming, but they kind of still hoping that the chimney starts a couple of flakes start coming down some soot. No, it's just just an animal that got trapped.

But that's a whole different show as well. So, no, I think that the Derek Carr situation might make him incredibly happy, but we can ask him. He's calling in in nine minutes.

It is his show. So we can ask him when he calls in if he really just wants to be miserable. Should we start a segment by saying he would do you just want to be miserable or what? Yes, I think I mean, that could be excellent. I think that's a great idea. And by the way, that's like a that could be a new segment for you.

Do you just want to be miserable? Get a sponsor for that one, because by the way, they will line up other news out of the combine. We should talk about a warrant out for for Georgia defensive tackle Jalen Carter, part of the fatal car crash on the 15th out of Athens that did kill a player and a staffer. Rumored to be the overall top draft pick at the combine. He has now left the combine.

The charges that he is facing on the arrest warrant were reckless driving and racing, leaving the scene of a crime, but no word on his blood alcohol content. But clearly, that is the news out of Indianapolis this morning as he was rumored, or I believe expected to speak with a bunch of other players at ten thirty Eastern Time today. He has now left the combine. So we will talk to Rich about that as well, because no doubt that's the conversation. It's going to screw up a lot of not screw up a change.

A lot of potential draft boards league year opens two weeks from today. So that will, I believe, T.J., direct the conversation in Indy. I think you're right. Huh? I just lost my train of thought. I had something I was going to tell you, and then I paused because your your thought kept going and then it just kind of just left my mind.

I'm just thinking about that. It's going to come back to me that it's tragic. You know, it's you know, two people lost their lives in this.

And for a guy who best player on the best team, best prospect on everyone's board coming in could be the number one pick in the draft. You know, the situation you don't want to see these kids put themselves in. And it's unfortunate that it did take place. And, you know, he's got to be held accountable for his actions in this. And in the aftermath, it seems like he wasn't upfront and honest with, you know, police and investigators, you know, and you're going to have to pay that price if you're him. Whether that's any type of jail time, unclear, if it's, you know, falling in the draft or, you know, we could, you know, any number of issues could come up as a result of this.

And we'll see what Rich has to say. I'm sure this is dominating talk in Indianapolis now is. Yep. And that's what it was. You know, we were talking earlier. So now I got my train of thought back and you know, it was like how much blame should be laid upon him. And I was kind of like, well, look, if you've got two people racing, you didn't force this other car to race. You know, it's a tragic event. Chris and I were just trying to figure out how much blame will be lumped on him.

It's just it's awful. But Chris said earlier, like, you should know better. And I'm like, yeah, you should know better. But these are young kids, right?

Big, strong athletes just won a national championship. Kids that age, you kind of feel like nothing can stop you. Right. You kind of feel just you can do anything.

You can get away with anything. And it was just sad, sad to see that happen. You know, we said this earlier that very, very few good things happen at two thirty in the morning. And so we will learn more about this. We'll talk to Rich and Tom Pellicero will be calling in at the top of the third hour. We will also follow the story with him as well. That said, let's move on to other options that we have for the show. As we talk about the NBA, a couple of good games last night, some conversation about who's going to be the MVP.

I mean, will it be the same contenders as it always is? I was watching the Lakers game last night and kind of scratching my head, obviously, without LeBron. They're struggling yet again and watching the Timberwolves last night. Who? Who was it last night, Chris, that had that monster dunk, that monster dunk?

It was think, oh, man, I have to look it up. Jaron Jackson. Did anybody see that monster dunk last night? Because I was watching with Cooper last night.

He go nuts. It was he cocked it back, bro. He was just spectacular. It was a moment in basketball as we turn the page into something else to chew on that reminded you how much fun the NBA was. We went to the game.

I don't know if Rich mentioned this. I'm sure he did that. We went to the double overtime game on Friday night. Russ Westbrook's first game as a clipper, by the way.

Oh, and three is a clipper right now. And we got to watch that game in person. And that was so much fun. It was a reminder of how much fun the NBA was. I haven't been to a game in a while after covering it for so many years. God, that was fun. Well, you got to see the second high scoring game in the history of the NBA.

For one, you got some extra overtime. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, that was definitely a great game to take Coop and his friends. Yeah.

We were you know, we were making all the jokes about if you were like a local sports anchor. Well, it's raining outside here in Los Angeles, but inside crypto arena, it is raining threes. I was like, I almost had staples.

I can't say staples. Crypto sounds awful. It sounds like the Cryptkeeper. But we're having the best time because it really is like local news, like 101, like all these things. Like, you know, the rain doesn't stop outside in Southern California, but inside crypto arena, it is raining buckets.

Can't stop the buckets from the leaks. Right. I mean, it's more fun to to speak in that parlance, isn't that?

Don't you do that for fun? I think a local kind of did that a little bit to start the show. Yeah.

Live local radio. Del Tufo's doing that weird, creepy voice. Yeah. I didn't find it creepy. He said we have a relationship for 20 plus years.

You don't find that creepy? That he's no longer that he's no longer rich. Puma, the stage manager over at NFL Network. Puma and I predate this NFL Network thing. Some of us have been around since the dawn of time. Right. Well, it's like we bring up all the time. Everybody that knows Rich met you, it seems, before they actually met Rich. That's right. Just shows how long you've been in the game. Oh, boy.

Just don't say lung in the tooth, because that would be like a really bad way to start the show in the first hour. I did bring donuts, everybody. Once again, does anybody ever see Rich bring donuts here? If you're watching on Roku and which, by the way, you know, is my obsession because Roku channel is so easy. I always go to it on my app when I'm driving with my foot up and a cup of coffee in hand. Going 80 in a very safe car.

Huh? I said going 80 in a very safe car. I'm in a very safe car.

I'm in a very safe car. But, you know, I love it because I'm a tech idiot and I just go on to my app and I hit mobile and I'm suddenly listening to the show and watching the show. Maybe watching the show while I'm driving.

But if I put it over there, I'm just just keeping an eye on you guys. Also, I like to listen in. People, people must think I watch the show all the time on Roku. And I, I watch, I listen when I get in the car. But what happens is I'm such a producer that I'm like, I start pinging Chris and teach him. Ask him that. Rich was doing Dan Patrick's show earlier and he was mentioning the height and weight. So I texted Dan, I'm like, ask Rich when he's going to do his height and weight. I mean, it's like I can't help myself.

It's really pinging. Can you imagine? That'd be a segment you could do on the show.

But I think that would be a little repetitive. Rich is calling in already. Is he on already? Well, let's just take a break.

We're going to we're going to take a break. We'll come back with Rich Eisen. It's his show. He gets to call on and we'll hear what he has to say about everything in Indian. Do you want to ask him height and weight, Chris? Yes. Is it of interest to you? Lots of rich eyes and show ahead when we come back.

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Call click ranger dot com or just stop by. Watching a very fresh based rich on with Ed Reed, as we were watching here on the Roku channel. And I have to say, we talked about this before the show. Taylor's always wanting him to shave. Chris always wanted a fresh face.

I preferred the bearded rich. I'm not going to lie. Is that OK?

Yeah, it's totally fine. I mean, you know, live with them. I do. Counts more than most. I do. But I mean, so do you guys. We should probably talk about this when Rich isn't on hold waiting to join us here on the Rich Eisen Show.

But that's just how we roll here. We like to discuss rich in third person. And also, like he's not even in the room or on the Rich Eisen Show hotline so we can welcome rich back into his very own show. Hi, Rich. Hey, guys, what's going on?

How's Indy? I am standing inside the convention center hall in the media center. And the fact that there is a media center for a combine just blows me away. As you know, I've been coming here quite a while since it was 18 years ago that I first left our home for a combine.

Say goodbye for a week. This is 18 years now. And when I first came here, you know, it was in the old RCA dome, which has now been destroyed to make the parking lot for Lucas Oil. And, you know, there may be a handful of members of the media and they were all kept outside of the one entrance into the combine. And they would just try to pick people off, you know, to interview them.

And then they started having people at podiums and they would be throughout the convention center. Now there's just one hall and I'm like looking and there's eight podiums and, you know, prospects were supposed to be at them. But they pulled all the prospects this morning on the news of Jalen Carter. So all the podiums that would have been filled with defensive line prospects getting set to work out tomorrow are all empty until the top of the hour when coaches and general managers return to them. So what are you expecting that's going to happen now today, Rich, that how does this alter everything? You mentioned obviously the players are no longer on the podiums today, but will this take over the entire narrative of the combine today? You know, I think tomorrow for sure, Suze. Tomorrow is when the on-field drill starts.

That's when Daniel Jeremiah and I started talking for an insane amount of time together. And, you know, so tomorrow when the defensive linemen are working out, you know, we'll still focus obviously. It'll all drill down on the kids who are out there working out and on screen. But look, I mean, Daniel Jeremiah's number one player on his draft board is Jalen Carter. There are a ton of other evaluators, not just on the media, but in inside draft rooms and inside draft meetings who have Jalen Carter number one on their draft board. And that young man is no longer number one on their draft board.

And he has left here. And I was told, as a matter of fact, that he was getting set to take the podium. He was 10 minutes away from his media availability when word came down out of Georgia that he was about to be charged with reckless driving and the charges with which he was served. And that's when the league, you know, and everybody running the combine, the league doesn't run the combine, the scouting community does, pulled Jalen Carter. And I don't know why they would pull the rest of the defensive prospects. I guess they didn't want the kids being asked the question about Jalen. What are they going to say?

But they just decided to just yank them all. And so that's the conversation today is, you know, the guy who's number one on so many people's draft boards was 10 minutes from being at a podium before he got pulled. And he's no longer obviously at the combine. He's got serious charges facing him back in Georgia. And should he clear those, then obviously there'll be a conversation about where he's drafted in the NFL draft.

Should he clear those charges between now and I guess, what is it, 56 days from now? The NFL draft. You know, we were talking just Charles Davis and I were just talking a few minutes ago. He was talking about Lyle Collins, who, you know, TJ knows very well. He's a former cowboy now with the Bengals. He was falsely accused of a crime at the combine years ago while he was here. Didn't work out and then didn't get drafted.

Then wound up signing with Dallas, having a terrific career to this date. So I don't know is the operative three words for Jalen Carter. That'll be a serious conversation tomorrow when the defensive linemen are out there. And then obviously when the defensive linemen are done, we'll all turn our attention to it. But for the moment, the guy was number one on so many people's draft boards is facing jail time and isn't here anymore. Let's move on to some other news from the draft and for sorry, from the combine and from football all around.

Rich and that is Aaron Rodgers breaking his silence after his days of darkness. He says that he is back into the light. We've got a sound bite to run for you and love to hear your thoughts on the other side of it. All right. I feel really good about about the conversations that that are going to be had that have been had with important people in my life, yourself included, that helped to orient me. But I'm not looking for somebody to tell me what the answer is.

All the answers are right inside me. And I touched many of them and definitely the feelings on both sides during the darkness. And I'm thankful for that time. But there's a finality to the decision and I don't make it lightly. I don't want to drag anybody around. Look, I'm answering questions about it because I asked about it. I'm talking about it because it's important to me.

You don't like it when you think it's drama, being a diva or whatever. And just tune it up. It's fine. But this is my life. It's important to me. And I'll make a decision soon enough and then we'll go down that road and be really excited about it. All right, Rich, you've been waiting to hear from Aaron Rodgers and this is what you heard. What do you make of it? I totally buy it.

I totally understand it. And I think part of that sound bite is well, Suze. I hadn't heard it yet. I read it. I read the excerpt. And I think part of his excerpt in that sound bite included him pointing out, like, you know, he used to be the Jordan Loveness equation and that farve. I'm just talking about it just yesterday. You could call a drama all you want.

And yes, obviously darkness therapy and being and somebody being so open about being in touch with feelings and and things of that nature. People might find is, you know, I guess, what would you call it, unconventional or, you know, a little bit out there. This is just him. And, you know, farve waited till much later than a week like this or even next week to render a decision one year and then reversed it in June.

So this is nothing in terms of over drama. You may think it's eccentric, but I hear him and I just don't know what his decision is going to be. And like we discussed, you know, like we discussed yesterday, you know, just hearing the conversation of the Packers, wondering if it's the right fit. I think he's wondering the same thing. He's wondering the same thing. And it's probably very difficult after 18 years to sit around and think maybe the spot where I'm so closely associated in my entire life has been.

I'm not a fit there anymore and I don't feel like I'm fit there anymore. He's got to make these choices and live with it. And then obviously the ripple effect of that will be felt by all these other teams here. This will absolutely, if we don't hear anything more from him now on the subject matter over the next two days, be a major part of the conversation when the quarterbacks get out there on the field in the combine drills on Saturday. So I believe it, you know. And how many times, Suze, when Total Access started and NFL Network started, did I call you and say, it's going to be a couple of hours.

I'll meet you. I'll meet you wherever I'm meeting you, you know, like because Favre was out there trying to make a decision or he retired and unretired. It was nonstop. Yeah, it was Favre watch all the time.

I mean, that's basically what it amounted to. But yet again, it's with your jets because the guys here in the studio seem to feel like you do not want Aaron Rodgers in New York. Is that true?

Suze, come on. You're a Columbia grad and I don't just say that to point out how smart you are. You spend as much time in New York as anybody I know. There are a lot of Shambala studios. There are sound baths and yoga studios. There's dark and light. Got it. I got it.

And Shambala products, I'm not afraid to admit, are very good for the skin and for the senses. How would that sound bite play in New York City, what you just heard? You mean for the back pages of the Post, you mean? Is that what you're worried about? You know, just for Fireman Ed.

Could Fireman Ed understand getting in touch with people? You know what I mean? Like, seriously. Right. Joe Benigno?

This is a guy who many people need to look at to spell out a four letter word. You know? So, I mean, come on. I just don't find it.

It would play well. But Rich, the guys think you don't want them because you're comfortable losing and that you come from a place of complaining. And so they're afraid that you don't want them there, Rich, because you might win a couple games. And I know that seems foreign to you, but the guys are basically saying that you're comfortable in the loser's seat.

Is that true, Rich? We have now reached the awkward portion of this interview, not because of what appears to be obvious, but I know I'm treading lightly with you, Suze. I need to hear this from the guys. Is this an accurate description behind my back of what you think I'm saying about Aaron Rodgers?

I need to hear it from you. On your back, I mean, I would say if you were here, your identity for 50 plus years, your whole life, really, as a Jets fan, has been a loser. And so that's how you, you're like Charlie Brown. Like, you wouldn't know what to do if you started winning.

So, like, the idea, like, I don't want Rodgers because we might win. You're just afraid of success and afraid of what your new identity might be because you spent 53 years being, as a Jets fan, a loser. Your two years, these last two years, you know, one of the things you can't... What two years? They're in the past. No, no, no, no, no. The last two years of Matt Jones and the coaching staff isn't right and the roster isn't right and the losing that happens and the blown out by the bills, these things, it doesn't compute.

A better record than the Jets last two years. You always used to tell me the stories of going to the old box borough and sitting on those tin can benches. Yeah, the movies of the two blue years, they were dark. They were cold.

They were cold. Water skiing behind the Brady yacht for as long as you did. It's exactly why when Brady left New England, I looked at you on the show and said, welcome to the rest of us. Right, right.

I get it. There's a big highfalutin saying that I don't want Rogers because I'm afraid of winning. Get out of here with that noise. I want to win.

I just don't think he's the guy to win. As a matter of fact, Derek Carr is meeting with the Jets right now somewhere in this town. I am going to find them. I'm going to barge in there with a pen and a lawyer. I'm going to find a lawyer. I don't care who it is. I'll just drag him off the ground.

Find a lawyer? Saul Goodman of Indianapolis. I'm going to go find him. The pen. We're going to hammer this thing out. Take the pen, Rich. Take the pen. Is Ed Hockley there?

You can get Ed. That was our last road trip. Would you rather sign Derek Carr today or be offered a seat on the rules committee?

What's more likely? He don't like Carr that much. He wants to be on the rules committee so badly. He wants that so badly.

In this room, I'm standing in front of podium two where in 20 minutes Mike McCarthy is sitting. Okay. Wow.

You should live stream that. What do we want to ask? What do we want to ask here?

How are we going to improve our offense a little bit? Stop. Stop.

No? Okay. I need a question. I need a question.

Why you got to do me like that? I don't have anything off the top of the dome, man. I literally have an avenue to ask a question for you to your head coach in 20 minutes. I tried to give you one and you said, no, no, no.

You didn't like the question. I'm going to say how are you going to improve your offense? Come on. Ask that to an NFL head coach? Yeah.

That's like saying what's your second half adjustment? That's a rough question. I think I need to hit this mimosa before this interview is over and then I'll have- I don't know what you're waiting for.

I just think it's ridiculous. I don't have a good question. A lot of thirsty people in the studio.

There's a chance to do it. Hey, Rich. What about- Listen to come on, everybody. What about all the quarterbacks? What are you hearing about the quarterbacks? Is Bryce Young too short? Who's the most durable? What are you hearing as you walk the hallways of Lucas Oil Stadium?

Yeah. Bryce Young's weight is the thing that's going to be talked about the most. I don't know when he actually steps on a scale that's probably sometime today or tomorrow.

We'll find that information out, but there's always going to be a strength coach in the room that will raise his hand and say, I'll take care of that. So I'm not concerned about that at all and I think he's not concerned about it either. There's a reason why he's not throwing here. He's acting like he's the first overall pick and draft and that sends a message and obviously scouts will do their due diligence, which is the phrase that pays and we will see him at some point in a pro day and at some point the Bears will make a maneuver to get out of their spot and figure something out.

That day is not today. That is for sure. Today is really in all honesty about hearing from these coaches and the scouts.

I mean, coaches and general managers, it's their last day of being made available and then tomorrow's the on-field drills and it'll be about why Jalen Carter's not here and what does that mean for draft boards? It really will have a significant ripple effect in the top 10. That is for sure. 100%. Sorry, I'm interrupting you to do a read. Is that all right? Can I get this in really quick? No, go ahead.

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I'm paying bills here. No, it's all good. No, it's all good. I'm sure we're out of time. It's more than most, but I will be here next two days as well. So there'll be lots to talk about. I mean, I'm being replaced the next two days, so I won't be here to ask you the questions, but that's okay. I'll be back in a couple of weeks. I've already started booking the show. Just saying. Sounds great.

Sounds great. I had to get my grievances. It was the airing of grievances, right?

If we stick with the Seinfeld theme for the show. Who have you run into yet? Who's the most famous person you've seen in Indy so far? I mean, famous? What are you talking about? Famous?

Well, I'm just saying Peter Schrager is posting pictures with Andy Reid. So what do you got? He's out and about. I've been out and about. Chris, I got here at one in the morning. I had a crappy cup of coffee in my hotel room, you know? Wow. And then I came here. Then I came here so I could give you nuggets.

Wow, somebody worked really hard on that cup of coffee. Rich, have you gone to Steak and Shake yet? No. Literally, I have not been out here a little over 12 hours. That's it, folks.

That's it. But I will give you full updates tomorrow on all of those things. Tonight's an out and about night. I mean, you are the selfie king. We want to see a parade of selfies of you and some... Like Peter King. I want to see everyone who's out and about. Also, overheard combines still available on Twitter.

If you just want to send me some nuggets, we can get those out. Right now, what hasn't been heard is a legitimate question for the Dallas Cowboys head coach that I now can get in 16 minutes. Okay, my question being if he's taking over the offensive coordinator job, right? I just want to kind of know, like, what is our offense going to look like? How is he going to address the wide receiver? Which, getting back to my original question, the wide receiver position is pretty bad for us. You know, we had C.D. Lamb and we were piecing like a jigsaw puzzle with no picture yesterday.

Just piecing stuff together. So, how's he going to address the wide receivers? What's the offense going to look like under him? And what kind of offense are we going to be running this week? Be careful.

This year, rather. What did he just do that he's not supposed to do in asking a question in an interview? You don't want to ask three questions in a row and you don't want a yes or no. No.

And yes or no? You got to drill down or just one. Yeah, you got to have one question, one question. Otherwise, otherwise, they only answered the last one. Well, I think that was all one question. That was a run on.

That was rough. Look, I was put under the gun here. I wasn't expecting to ask Mike a question.

T.J., that's the job. You get to react on the fly. Well, I gave you a correct answer. He didn't like it. And then I tried to move on.

He said it was too many. It's your damn act together. I knew that was coming. But, Rich, at least he didn't do my all-time pet peeve, which is talk about. Talk about. Talk about.

I knew better than that. Talk about your plan. Talk about your plan. Talk about your plan. Coach, can you talk about how we're going to win the Super Bowl this year?

Can you talk about asking a lazier question? Right. I mean, really. I've got my steps in here. I've been pacing the entire time.

Oh, imagine that. You guys are aware of that, that he paces when he's on the phone. Oh, my God.

It's like he's worn a hole in the carpet. We haven't even talked to you about any of the Eagles' push rules stuff, but we'll do that in the next segment. We'll be fine.

We're going to be OK without you, Rich. I've done this before. Right. Sounds good. Also, Amy Trask is here for the second hour.

So, I mean, how lucky am I? So, yeah, CBS Sports football aficionado, Amy Trask in the chair next to me. And I'm excited about that. All right. Have a great rest of the show. We're going to try. We're going to try. We're going to try. Take it easy.

How about them Cowboys? OK, yeah, I'm going to get in front right now because of podium two, especially since I've got five questions and I'm going to ask them. I'm giving you options, baby. Just pick one of the five. That's all you got to do.

Just pretend you're Dion and you don't care that there's anybody else there. Remember in the olden days when you would do when you would do the media night. Yeah. You wrote me. Yeah. All right.

Just ask questions over and over. All right. Take care. Bye, Rich. Bye, Rich.

Thanks for calling in. That's like in the olden days here. And I say the olden days when Jim Hill from Channel 2 would ask questions. It was an unwritten rule that he got to ask the first four questions. And I got to town and I was like, I'm not waiting for him to ask his questions. And people are like, oh, no, no, no. You have to let him ask the questions first. I was like, what? This is stupid. Did you let him ask the questions?

No, for fun. I would just get in there and ask the questions. Susie was right in in the old Fox Sports days. I was very direct in the Fox Sports days. I was correct. You're saying, Susie, if Rich says I gave him five questions and just pick one of the five. Roll with that. Roll with that.

Roll with one of the five. About to pop this champagne. Pop the champagne. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. We're waiting.

We're waiting for the end of the camera. It's might hit me, TJ. Be careful. I would not do that.

I recommend against that. Don't break anything in this studio. A lot more Rich Eisen Show when we come back. Momo says it's Wednesday. We're drinking early. We'll see you guys in the other side of the break. Wrapping up the first hour of The Rich Eisen Show, Susie Shuster in for Rich Eisen here on Roku Channel, wherever you find your radio and podcast listening pleasure. Happy to be with you guys on this Wednesday while Rich is in Indianapolis. You just missed him if you just tuned in right now. If you want to listen to Rich calling in from Indianapolis, go check us out on YouTube.

Go check out us. Rack it back on Roku. So many ways to find The Rich Eisen Show, and I'm happy to have you do so. That said, let's talk about something that happened yesterday. Conversation with Howie Roseman, the general manager and executive vice president of the Eagles, talking about the push rule, a lot of controversy about the Eagles push rule.

Let's hear a soundbite. This is a conversation about the league addressing all these quarterback pushes, push plays, and so forth. Do you have any reaction to that? Any thoughts on maybe why that is now a popular conversation? I think it's a better question for Coach Sirianni. All I know is everything we're doing is legal, and it works, and just because people do something that's really good doesn't mean it should be outlawed.

I have a hard time understanding personally why this is such a big issue. Yes, the Eagles ran it perfectly many times. Haven't we seen this our whole lives, watching football? Chris, why are you laughing so much, because you love Howie? I'm laughing because I think as time goes on and on here, I love Howie Roseman more and more.

It stinks that he's not running my favorite team, just how awesome a job this guy's done in recent years. I think this whole thing with the push is hilarious. Nobody can stop it, so everyone's like, we can't stop it.

Let's get it banned. But also, it's been around forever. Yeah, but nobody's really done it to the extent that the Eagles have done it here. They've really figured out kind of a loophole, TJ, of like, we're going to bring the rugby scrum, and we also have this awesome quarterback who can't really be stopped, so let's just kind of shove everybody forward.

This kind of goes back to like, can we blame Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush for this? This is kind of where it started. Also, I can understand why you're a fan of this, because your team is quite notorious for taking those rules, a lot of rules that people don't even know exist and kind of pushing it to the edge. It's still legal because no one knows about it. People are like, oh, this is wrong.

It's like, nah, we're able to, wait a second, we're able to, let me just do this real quick, bang, we'll do that. So I can understand how you would be a fan of Howie because your team is really good at doing stuff like that. That's a good point. TJ, don't be bitter because we win. Oh, I'm not bitter.

I mean, there's a rule book for a reason. I admire that, to be honest with you. Also, if something is legal and we do have a lawyer coming in studio for much of the second hour and Amy Trask, and we can ask her about the legality of this, if you'd like, TJ, from your bitter perspective, but I just feel like... Did I sound bitter? Did I sound like I'm impressed? I'm impressed that you're able to do it.

Don't be impressed that we're smarter than you are. And look, Howie checked the rule book. Everything's legal. I mean, it's a push, not a pull, right? It's a push, not a pull. Pulling illegal, pushing totally fine. You know, Tom Brady was maybe the greatest quarterback sneaker of all time. I think J1 Hurts is going to give him a run for his money as long as they don't ban this because they don't like it. And the truth is, is that that was the best of his mobility, Tom Brady's.

I mean, there were times where he surprised us, but he really fell forward beautifully. And I'm not going to lie that it was legal. It is legal and I have a problem with changing it. And I know that the rules committee is waiting to hear my thoughts on this.

Let me just talk to you directly because Rich can't get a seat at your committee. But listen, guys, I think it's fine. I think it's OK. I think you should leave it be. And you're welcome. See, see what I did there?

I just it's as legal as that tech rule was back then when no one knew it existed. It was, you know, I mean, the forward pass. Hey, listen, T.J., selfish. You should pour for the rest of us, pour one out for Amy Trask as she comes out here. CBS Sports Football Aficionado. And we're excited to have you here for much of the second hour.

The Princess of Darkness will join us here on Roku channel and on radio and podcast networks across the country. And we'll talk much more about the about the combine, because, you know, that's why I'm here, people. Right. I'm not here just to fill the seat, although many people think that I do poison my husband to come in and get some air time. And I don't think that because you've actually said it like you said.

Was that me? Lots of rich guys and show when we finish up this first hour, much more in the two hours coming back. We'll be right back with. Yeah, and I like how he because he puts himself out there. That's what I like. I like about him.

I mean, he's very much a 21st century GM. And by the way, I like it. So what if he's like flirting with legality? It's legal.

It's either legal or it's not legal. Correct, Chris. So I want you to remember that when one of your kids comes home a little bit late from curfew or does something, I want you to remember what you just said now. Like, no, no, our whole rule in our house, you know, we keep all of the electronics in a lockbox. We found this out yesterday and a lot.

And that's how rich is getting your son in fantasy because he's not allowing. Oh, you guys, it was so mean last night. So there's Cooper watching the Timberwolves game with me and Timberwolves.

I mean, the Clippers game is which was game. Sorry. Sorry, TJ.

OK, and rich. I FaceTime rich so we could say good night to the kids. What does he do? He shows Cooper his fantasy.

Seven to four, seven to four, back and forth. Cooper's like, Dad, I don't get any time, which is wrong, which is showing him like shoving it down his throat. Kids 12.

I think it's possible that rich cares more about fantasy basketball than his own family. Oh, wow. That's a bold statement. statement. Clip it.

Clip it and use that. While you were at the game. Yeah. How often was he checking the scores on his phone? Every five seconds when he wasn't, you know, putting down some snacks.

We did have the dessert cart, so I'm just saying. Amy Trask, much of the second hour when we come back, Tom Pelissero calling in. We have a very busy Wednesday. If TJ doesn't finish off the champagne, we will be right back after this. You love Lala Kent on Vanderpump Rules.

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