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844-204 Rich is the number to dominate. I turn to my right and I find a guy who loves the sport of baseball more than anybody else and he loves the New York Yankees as well. A friend of the program back here in studio, a star of NYPD Blue and Blue Bloods and so much more.
Nick Turturro here on the Rich Eisen Show. Round of applause for our friend. Pleasure. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you, buddy. How are you? I'm doing better after last night. Yeah. Well, it's a good start.
I mean, it's a good start. It was a win, an easy win. Not really an easy win. It wasn't easy. It wasn't easy.
No. It wasn't easy. I'm saying easy just to downplay it because I was on, I've never felt comfortable the whole freaking game. I know, right? Yeah. Well, you were off five days, six days, so they were maybe going to be a little flat, maybe didn't come out at the same.
Yeah. You know, because when you're playing every day, you got to be careful with those when you had that little off days. I mean, we needed it, but we needed that win and Cole was good. It wasn't great against a lineup that is, that didn't take advantage. They had a shot. Well, I'll tell you what, the Guardians, you better get a lead on them because with the pen, the arms they have in the pen, I mean, you saw that in that 15 inning banger that they, they advanced against the race. They got people who can throw strikes and they could throw nasty stuff.
So having a lead thanks to, you know, Anthony Rizzo and thanks to, you know, I know, you know, Bader, he had a home run and then that kid in right field who made a nice play when Josh Donaldson thought it was a home run later the next at bat, let's one go through his legs. And that was, I know you like Josh Donaldson, but I look, man, personally, um, you know, he's been on the program long time ago, but he always does dumb things. You know what I mean? Why does he have to be a bonehead sometimes? And I mean, that's, that's my problem.
Like I liked the guy and they did the whole thing with Tim Anderson, a Jackie. I mean, you're not friends. Let's be honest.
Who do you blame more? Donaldson for not running that out of that guy in right field, not pulling a Jeffrey Mayer. Come on. This is the playoffs start laying out. Donaldson's got to run.
You can't showboat it. I know that's the porch, but you can't assume that's a home run. Like he assumed it. And the first base coach too.
Hey, what are you doing? One of those guys has to catch it though. There were four of them right there. Yeah. Lean over and catch it. I know. Just stick your hand out.
Just stick your freaking hand on and catch the ball. Be a real fan. I know.
What are you doing? Commit. It's right. You know what I mean?
If you're going to be a fan, commit. It's the playoffs. I know that's me, man. You would assume my face front and center. You know, I was at the, I was at the Toronto game Monday night.
Judges going for 61. It didn't happen that night. You went to Canada? Well, I went to Canada.
My friend Russell Peters took me. He was invited throughout baseball. He knows nothing about baseball, but he goes, you know, I never saw anybody love the game like you.
So I want you to come on the field. So I came on the field with him in Toronto and they made me wear a blue jersey with my Yankee stuff. I was like, I can't wear this.
I'm going to get, so I left it open. Nobody really caught it. I'm talking about it now, but I said, don't get it twisted. I'm only wearing this crap because I got to go out on the field. Wait a minute. They wouldn't let you on the field with your Yankee gear?
No. They made you cover it up with blue jay gear? I didn't cover it up. I left it open.
Right. So you saw my Yankee jacket and the thing was open and you know, I was right outside the Yankee locker room, which was crazy. I'm waiting for Yankees to come in and out. And Coney came up to me and hugged me. Good guy. He's not afraid of me.
That's what I commend you. You have me on MLB network. These other people, these guys talk to me in private players. I have friends in MLB, but I feel like they were afraid of me. Like I'm a threat. I don't know.
I don't have me on a panel. Can I, can I, can I, I'm too wild for them. You're not wild.
No, no, no. My son says, I like the wrong sport. Like if I was into football, football would embrace me, but baseball was very conservative. I don't know.
I mean, football is pretty corporate as well. I mean, but I love your passion. Thank you. You get me. I mean, I grew up, I grew up with people like you.
Right. I saw you at a Yankee game years ago. When was that? You were walking around. You were like on ESPN. I said, oh, that's that Mitch Eisen guy or something. I think he went like that to me. I was like, Hey, you know, I always thought you were a nice guy, but you are a very nice guy.
Thank you. I'm a big, I've been a big fan of yours for many, many years, but I grew up with you. And when I see you on your Twitter feed, just going nuts, you'd take your glasses off. It's interesting that you, you know, a guy who worked with David Caruso takes glasses off. Caruso puts the glasses on to deliver his lines.
He always, viewers reverse engineered it when, you know, but that's, that was, that was after he worked with you. But I mean, when it all comes down to it, you're, you're passionate about it. You might use, you might use some foul language. Yeah, I do. I mean, I don't have to drop the F bombs, but people like it. So you give the people what they want. No, I give them what they want.
I'm a man of the people. If you read the tweet, they're like, you are us. I had a guy that was stalking me this year. This is Yankee face.
It's insane. He got my number. How'd you get my number? I Googled it.
You Googled it. I couldn't get rid of the guy. Guy said, listen, we could be friends.
He goes, it's, this is about the Yankees. I said, I don't even know you. I was like, the guy wouldn't leave me alone. I don't want to get in. No, be careful. No, I know. I know. I mean, I understand. You're, you're, you're, you love, you love the game.
You love the sport and you're, you're, you're, you're a diehard fan of the sport. I was doing it before there was Twitter. I was doing it before there was any of this stuff. So now there's a, you know, an outlet for you to vent this stuff. I was doing it when I was a kid.
People would knock on the door and my parents would say, he's a little depressed right now. Just come back later. You know what I mean?
Let him calm down. You know what I mean? So I was doing this, this is a lifelong thing. My wife says it's like a, you know, it's really just not good.
I don't know. Well, cause you're watching all 162. Now you got game 163 under your belt. I got Nick Turturro here on the Rich Eisen show at Nick Turturro one.
Everyone should follow him on Twitter. It's a lot of fun to watch you go to ups and downs. Uh, I watched the Dodgers last night and I think who the hell's going to beat them? You know, I don't like the Dodgers. I know, I know you don't, but I mean, but good. I mean, great.
I mean, they're loaded. I mean, the fact that Trey Turner homeward last night, and he's a guy that where people around here are, are wondering if the Dodgers are going to resign him, how the hell do they not Mookie Trey Turner Freeman. Then you got what sometimes Will Smith's back there. You got, you got Justin Turner, who may be one of the most clutch pro season players around Muncie Will Smith, Clay Bellinger, bats ninth. He was MVP like three years ago. People don't even talk about him anymore. You want somebody from the left side.
You throw him in there against Clevenger and he comes up with a big hit. They're stacked. How about the Mets? Huh?
Wow. I didn't want to rub it into the med fans. You know, she met fans. I could have, I went easy on them. I felt bad for them because I saw Buck too, though.
You got to have a nice soft spot. I do. I feel bad for Buck, man. I thought maybe this might be Buck's chance. I thought the Mets were ready, but you know, they imploded at the end and they never recovered. They never used, you know, when the switch turns, you could see it happening. Now I know this.
I know you're one of the most superstitious guys out there. When they, when they brought the Timmy trumpet guy in person to play the trumpet. The Mets are corny. They do that kind of stuff. That's why they're the Mets. You have to understand I'm from Queens. They are the Mets for a reason. They're not the Yankees. And they do dumb, you know, meet the Mets. We listen to them and med fan. You look at them. They're like, they're bush league. They really are.
This one right behind you. I'm sorry, but you know, I grew up fighting arguing in the street with med fans and they were always going to be the Mets. Not that I hate them, but it sounds like you do.
No, I don't. They're just corny, you know, W O R. And I mean, my first game was a Mets game, 72, I think. I think I went to a Yankee game with the boy Scouts of America in 73. I don't know, Rich, something happened. I walked in the stadium and, you know, I had like, you know, I fell in love.
I don't know. I said, this is it. And my friends was Puerto Rican. And so taking me to the Bronx and I was like, I'm in love. They had Bobby Mercer. They weren't even that good. That was seventies about to say 73 is when the Mets were actually good. Yogi was the manager. They went to the World Series and they lost to Reggie and seven games. They were up against Oakland. I know that, you know, I mean, they were actually good. So, you know, because my brother was a jet fan and a Met fan. So I rooted for the Jets and then I just saw the Mets too. And even though Pat Zachary came to my camp once and signed, I autographed Pat Zachary glove.
I just like I, I can't root for that team. Yeah. And then wasn't he involved in the Siva trade? He was involved in the Siva trade. Who was the other guy? Steve Henderson. Oh my God.
Steve Henderson, Pat Zachary, Doug Flynn. That's it, man. Was that the truth?
That's weird. I don't remember nothing in my life. And I can remember baseball crap. You know, catfish showed up. Reggie showed up. Dan Norman also in the trade. Dan Norman.
Dan Norman. Lefty, right? Yeah. You asked me before who my favorite Yankee of all time is.
Yeah, who is that? You have a clear cut one? I don't.
I know who they are. You have two. I would say one or two. I have two.
He has two. Don Mattingly and Reggie Jackson. Yeah. Reggie's my boyhood, right? When I'm seven, eight, falling in love with the sport, watching Chris Chambliss go around the bases and everybody's spilling out of the stands in 76. Right.
And then Reggie showing up to stir the drink. And then they won in 77. I was eight years old at the time.
Eight years old? Yeah, man. And so I fell in love. And then I remember in the 81 World Series when the Yankees lost the Dodgers and Reggie was going to go, I cried myself to sleep that night that Reggie was leaving the Yankees. And then Mattingly showed up. Yeah. And he was all right. And Mattingly's my, I mean, my daughter's middle name is Mattingly.
Really? Hell yeah. Danny's baseball. That's it. And just seeing him, just seeing him, you know, Homer against the Mariners in that 95 series.
Oh, man. You know, he had a leg kick going. And he was like, he was, he looked like the old Mattingly in that series.
Right. He Homer'd. And, you know, Gary, Gary Thorne with that famous call of it on the Baseball Network, where he's like, there it goes. He goes, let's hang on to your hats. Here it is.
He goes, oh, here it goes. And he Homer'd. And it was just like his playoff moment that we had never seen before.
It was amazing. And then of course he departs and Tino shows up and they win them all. I know. He never got to wreak anything. Kind of like Mercer in a way. Mercer never. Right. You know, Mercer was a loved Yankee and he didn't get to enjoy it. And then they brought him back and he bunted in the World Series into a double play.
It was like, he had the Maloiki on him or something. I don't know. So who do you think wins the World Series this year, Nick?
What do you got for me? Well, I think we got a shot, but we got to get by Cleveland and let's see what Houston, because that place gives me like really agita. And they're inviting me to come this year.
So I might go down there. Who is they? The Houston Astros. The Astros are inviting you here?
Well, our radio station is. They like, they like to fool with me. They troll me. They like to mess with me. So I might go in, I might be in the building this year. What do you mean?
What are you talking about? You know, they like to mess with me. They think that, you know, they're like, well, we love you, Nick. We know you love the Astros. I can't stand you people, but I'll show up. I'll show up.
And if, you know, maybe I can get it done. I might have to bring some muscle with me. And I don't look to fight.
I'm just, I'm just going there to see if I can pull my team. When you say, when you say muscle, you mean Mojo. You're not talking about physical. No, not physical. You're talking about that you need some muscle.
I need some muscle to get rid of, to get rid of the bad, the Altuve Bregman juju. There's something in that building, Rich. I'm telling you there's something, there's a cloud in that building. Mariner fans saw it firsthand yesterday. I know. I mean, they had that game. They had it. They had that game. That's, that's a disaster.
And why that guy ever threw a batting practice pitch is beyond me. That's unbelievable. Who's up next? Who's up next? Uriel? Who's up next? Uh, I don't know who's up next. I'm not letting that guy beat me.
Period. Did you see the size of his arms? His arms are like this big. He's unbelievably bigger than judge, dude.
That's why. And again, you know, uh, I think Costas even said it during the broadcast last night, but he said it much more artfully than the way I'm going to paraphrase it that, you know, I mean, Bregman's on deck. Oh, Bregman was on deck. You don't want any piece of him either. Well, pick your poison, but I'm not letting that guy beat me.
By the way, that's poison. Bregman is unbelievable. Oh yeah.
They have some, and I know, look, I know what people will say about the cheating and the banging. I'm friends with him. Bregman?
Yeah. Bregman's great people. He's good people. And, and, and he's going to the hall of fame.
Oh, he's a player. I think he's in the hall of fame or he's on a trajectory. I think Altuve is clearly on a trajectory going to the hall of fame. Verlander's going to the hall of fame.
Yep. Dusty Baker might be going to the hall of fame. He might. I mean, I mean, if he gets a ring. Gotta win one. He's got to win one.
He hasn't won one. I think he's going close. You know, I think, I mean, talk about telling the, the, the, uh, story of the sport all the way from. Watch out for the Phillies.
What do you think? I think they were, uh, they could be a surprise team because Bryce Harper, I've always said, this guy, I mean, if he gets going, there's always a surprise team. Like last year, Atlanta caught fire. I got a funny feeling there's a team that might sneak in. It could be them.
I'm not saying, I'm saying it could be, you know, I had a feeling they were going to beat, you know, the Cardinals and they did. They didn't just beat them. They just, they eviscerated. They erased them. The guy imploded and they never, they never recovered. Yeah.
They get healthy. Something happened to him. I don't know. And that's why the Yankees don't have a closer. I'm worried. Well, I mean, they should have one because Clay Holmes has the stuff, but I mean, he comes in last night. I don't know either.
He hit the first guy. I said, Oh my God. I don't know. But he still, he, I would still ride that train more than Chapman. The fact that I will not have to sit and have my emotions placed in the hands of our oldest Chapman ever again. I am fine.
Yeah. I'm okay with it. I'm good with it. I'd rather, I'd rather go to battle with this right now.
And then obviously judge's season was one of the most magical starting and most sporting rides I've ever been on. And the Yankees have to sign them for life. Oh please. Right? Of course. Come on. It can't, it cannot happen. So if you're listening, here's what we're going to do.
You want to talk about muscle? You and I together. Right. You and I together. Here's what we're going to do. We should have, should we, should we do this? Let's just do this. I'm split ball. He has no idea what we're talking about.
Let's have a seance and get in touch with George M. Steinbrenner III. Okay. Okay. Tell him your son needs to be contacted by you in the middle of the night. Right. Wake him up in the middle of the night and slap him silly. Yeah.
And say to him, whatever the hell you need to do, this is what you're doing. Right. We're signing the kid.
I don't care. Right. That's it.
That's it. Can we do it? Can we have a seance? Let's do it. Let's get a Ouija board.
I don't care. Ouija board. My mother believed in that.
Did she really? Yeah. Let's do it. I'm in.
Let's do it. What if he doesn't want to be there? He wants to be there. He wants to be there.
What if this season was a big F you to them for not paying him in the first place? He doesn't look like he's wearing that. I don't think so. I've heard rumors that, I don't know.
I don't want to say, I heard some weird rumor about, but you know, I don't even know if that's right. So I'm just going to not say that. Oh, you're a deal breaker? Your son is saying off the, off the, off the yeah. What's your deal? I may walk as a Yankee fan.
Your son just off camera said to say here, what's the deal? That's what's at stake. My fanship. They can't lose this guy. He's the face of the team. He's the heart of the team.
He's the second coming of Gita only with power. So, you know, if you don't sign judge, I might be done. Where are you going to go? Nowhere. Nowhere. That's where I'm going to go. Nowhere. Except back here on the show.
Round of applause. Another great appearance for Nick Turturro here. And listen, my son, man, he loves you on the game.
What game is it? Oh, he loves me on Madden. The fan of yours on Madden.
He's got a sexy voice. What do you want? Please tell me you got that as a drop. Very good. Nick Turturro, come back during later parts of the playoffs. Okay. Definitely. Certainly. Certainly. If you go to Houston, we want to need proof of life. Yeah. Let's let's hope we can boost on the ground. Fantastic.
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Well, two really quick things. First, TJ, on behalf of all Phillies and Braves fans, congratulations to the Mets on having the best record in the National League on June 6th. We're really, really proud of you guys. Normally, Kathy's blowing darts at me, TJ, so I'm just glad it's in your direction. In using language that TJ will understand, the varsity's got it from here.
Oh, wow. I thought we was cool. I thought we was cool. We are. He's just joining us when you're not on Twitter anymore. Wow.
I thought she was my, I thought she was my girl, Kathy. What's on your mind, Kathy, other than just torturing TJ? I just want to comment about the Devante Adams hullabaloo. Yes, obviously, it's completely unacceptable. Can't go after a member of the media, etc. However, the thing that, the bit of context that's being removed is that at halftime, a good amount of objects were being thrown at later's players as they're going back into the tunnel. So now at the end of the game, in his defense, Devante Adams is going into that same tunnel.
Some dude in plain clothes, and you can't see the little badge he's got on, some dude in plain clothes runs into him, and he's a big guy, his natural reaction to push him. The criminal charges, in my opinion, are ridiculous. But my question to you, Rich, is how much will the criminal charges affect the NFL's review and discipline of him? Well, I think it'll cause more people to pay attention to what the NFL are going to do, even if they're just a casual fan, Kathy, and I appreciate the call and the tormenting of TJ. I think the people will pay more attention to what the NFL is going to do, but the bottom line is there's a member of the working press that is credentialed, that has every right to be there, and is doing his work just head down.
He's a freelancer. Who knows? Is this the first time he's ever been on a football field?
It's entirely possible. It's like, hey, bro, when you're walking past the visitor's tunnel after a game that they've just lost, you need to just look right and see, do you have the right of way? Are you clear? Does that mean he should get shoved over by a player?
Of course not. You can get knocked over inadvertently. This was not an inadvertent, and it's entirely possible that Adams thought that he was somebody that had no business being there and shoved him over in the same way that, you know, Bobby Wagner hit the guy who came out on the field and ran around, but the bottom line is he wasn't somebody who had no business being on the field.
He was somebody who had all the business being on the field and no business being shoved over. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on this program. I've enjoyed this endeavor, I gotta be telling you to be very honest, more than I thought, more than I thought that I would, and we're talking about power rankings. You guys have been after me for years to do this, years, and I said, you know what, we're on the Roku channel now, let me give our new partners something that you've been wanting, and I figure if you've wanted it, then our new partners would like it, and then through that entire theory, maybe you, the listener and viewer of this program, the consumer of the Rich Ozzie Show would enjoy it too. I have no idea if you are, but I'm enjoying it, which is all really that matters, to be very honest with you. And I know you guys have been making fun of my power rankings early on, but I think, I think they have been spot on. No, no, just because you win a game doesn't mean you have to move up a spot, and just because you've lost a game doesn't mean you have to drop a spot.
That is not the reason. I look at power rankings as who is better than the one below you, even if the one above you has already beaten you. That's just the way I go, all right, and so I ask for a drop to communicate to everybody whose power rankings they are.
Now, apparently, there is a visual animation to go with it, and I'm very excited. Here are my week five into week six, 2022 NFL power rankings. Power rankings! For the radio audience, it was me flying around like Superman. I appreciate it, Smitch. I appreciate all of it. That was. Smitch, thank you. Hoskins and Jordan Sherrill are crack team.
That's great. NFL films music, please. Can't wait. All right, number 10 on my power rankings list, having dropped six spots, hanging on for dear life. The team that is going to be led into the fray against the 4-1 Minnesota Vikings, who are not on this list, by the way, by Skylar Thompson. I'm going with the Miami Dolphins. I still like their defense, despite 40 points being put up on it by the Jets, and I still think this team, when it's all said and done, is going to be in the playoffs and have a say about who doesn't make it to. I still like the Miami Dolphins as one of the top teams in the league right now. They're banged up, but when it's all said and done, I think me sticking with them will be rewarded.
The way I'm putting it, they're number 10 on my list, number nine on my list, going up from 10 to nine, up one spot. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are on this list. Tom Brady is not to be denied, in my estimation. This defense returned to form against an Atlanta team.
Yeah, a little banged up. No Kyle Pitts, but they are no slouches, no Cordarrel Patterson. They still, they almost lost to Atlanta, and I think Atlanta is better than what people think and don't get the credit that they deserve.
Tampa Bay is at Pittsburgh this week, and I think this is a get right appearance for Tom Brady in a spot where he likes to torment the opposition. I like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to still be a top 10 team. They're number nine on my list, dropping two spots. I'm not ready to give up on the Green Bay Packers. They dropped from six to eight. I'm going with the three and two Packers, even though the Vikings, who beat them in week one, are not on this list. I get it.
I know you're all laughing about it. It doesn't make any sense. I know it doesn't make any sense to you, but these are my power rankings. This one is mine, and I still think, I still believe in this 12. I still like their running game. I still think that their defense, despite the second half performance in London, is as good as advertised.
They have a guy in Rashawn Gary, who if this team was 5-0, we'd be talking about them to be talking about him as a defensive player of the year. The Packers are eighth on my list, but new to the list above them, yes, this is why, you know, power rankings are power rankings, and I go with the team that just beat them. Giants make their first appearance on my top 10 list.
They got it going right now, don't they? They are four and one, and I decided to pair them right behind the team that they're playing this week, also new to my list. Number six on this list are the Baltimore Ravens. They were not ranked last week.
They are now. They came up with a win last week against the Bengals team that dropped off my list this week, and I think they were one of the sneakiest passing attacks in the league. Devon DuVernay, I bet you, was available on your fantasy, not yours, you got 15 teams in your fantasy. I bet there's, I bet you 10 team leagues out there, you could probably find Devon DuVernay on your waiver wire. Noted.
Notice, pick it up, pick them up. Number five, let's go to the top five, making their first top five appearance of the year on my power rankings, up two spots. How about them Cowboys? Micah Parsons was your defensive player of the week. He currently, in my mind, is your defensive player of the year. What he did this last week against the Rams, despite having a bad wheel, was amazing. Cooper Rush is not making any mistakes. I like the mix at the running back spot. Just enough Zeke, just enough Pollard. You've been clapping for that.
I have been clapping for that for a while. I like what I'm seeing, and dare I say the coach has got his finger on the pulse. Four in a row, they're now number five on my list. Up one spot, the San Francisco 49ers are a terrific football team. They are playing like the team that we saw, that damn near made the Super Bowl last year, and George Kittle hasn't really even gotten started.
And then number three on my list, number two on my list, and number one on my list are all no change. Number three of the Kansas City Chiefs, Travis Kelce with his Al Bundy performance on Monday Night Football against a Raiders team that almost got him. That was a heck of a comeback win on a team that was desperate.
Down 17 points to win. Number two on my list are the Philadelphia Eagles. I look forward to seeing what they do against the number five team on my list this week.
And then number one, still they have not been knocked off, and I think they are the best team in football with the MVP of the sport. The Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen are still sitting atop my power rankings, and this is going to be a fascinating week for my power rankings. One versus three in Kansas City, two versus five in Philadelphia. We will see how things shake out.
Six plays seven as well. Oh baby. Those are my power rankings. Can't wait for the Chiefs to win this weekend, and you'll still have the Bills number one.
I don't think I could be able to do that. I don't think, well I need to see how it happens. If I'm not mistaken, is it true that this is the first home dog appearance in Arrowhead for Patrick Mahomes? Ever. 41 games. We'll see what happens, but yeah, there will be some upending of my power rankings potentially, or have I had it right all along? Sticking to my guns despite hearing the howls from the stands in my hickory high gym, I just wave my power rankings at you saying this is my plan.
You just made the list. Let's take a break. Mike Pereira will join us next, the rules analyst of Fox, former head of NFL refs, to tell us what is going on in the NFL. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, you can listen to the NFL in the NFL app on westwoodonesports.com via Westwood One Station streams, or by asking Alexa to open West Wood One Sports. If it's the NFL, it's on Westwood One. And if you were listening to Monday Night Football on Westwood One, you heard Kevin Harland and Kurt Warner giving voice to the moment in the pocket with Derek Carr and Chris Jones, and they were just as perplexed as the rest of us.
So let's get this man on the line. He knows about the ins and the outs of officiating and what's going on with the competition committee and so on and so forth. Our friend from Fox Sports, the NFL rules analyst, and my buddy from way back in the day when he was the head of the NFL refs on the Mercedes-Benz phone line is Mike Pereira. How you doing, Mike? I'm doing great. How are you?
Well, Mike, you know what? There's lots going on involving the profession of officiating, certainly professionally. What in the world is happening with the rush of roughing the passer penalties?
What is happening? Well, I mean, I really don't know because if you look at the overall trend, the number of calls for roughing the passer has declined this year, you know, and they sent out a negative message when it comes to roughing the passer calls because prior to the season on their points of clarifications, they had contact of the head of the helmet of the quarterback, and they said that if you're matching hands, so you're trying to bat the ball down, matching the quarterback's hand, and you make contact with the quarterback's helmet, that's not a foul unless it's with force. And so they were emphasizing not calling it, and that immediately drove the numbers down.
And then you go to this week, and we have a couple of high-profile misses, and it makes you wonder, where did it come from? They're not the type that they were talking about in their preseason clarification, but still, you know, you wonder, is it a reaction because of the Tua situation and all of the notoriety there? It's not something that the league told them to call. I know that because I saw their preparation for the week, and, you know, there was one hit in the quarterback that was actually on their video, but it was completely different than what happened in both the situations with Brady and Derek Carr. I think it's just maybe some human reaction that the referees had after seeing the plays, after reading the news.
That's about the only thing I can figure, but I'm also one that looks and thinks now it's a blip, that we won't see it beyond this. Yeah, I know that they say the competition committee is going to talk about it. They'll spend one minute talking about it. They're not going to do anything. They're not going to impose any changes. They're certainly not going to go back when it comes to protecting the passer and say, okay, let's not call it if you drive them into the ground.
Let's not call it if you slam them into the ground. I mean, they're not going to do that. So really, nothing to me is going to change going forward except all of this that happened in week five.
We'll then go, we'll kind of end up in the background in a week five. Well, you just dropped a lot in your opening statement, if you will, Mike. So let's take it one step at a time here and explain to people what that video you're talking about that you say officials see beforehand.
Who makes it? When do they look at it? And you said there was nothing too related on it that might lead to these bizarre calls that we're seeing. What is that video that you're talking about to prep officials? The league does a terrific job each week in putting together a video and sending it out to the official.
All of them get it? Like in an email? They all get it in an email, a link or something like that?
Okay. And they just click on it. They have their own, obviously their own system, their own internet system that they basically use. But it's to talk about plays, you know, and what they're looking for and the good calls that are made and sometimes the ones that are incorrect. So they'll talk about ineligible downfield. They'll talk about illegal contact. They'll show plays. It's ongoing training. They have that along with videos that their position supervisors put together.
Their deep official supervisor, Linus scrimmage official supervisor, umpire referee. So it's an intense week and it's good. It has to be that way. And Walt Anderson is the voiceover of the video along with Perry Fuel who gets involved in the video and then of course the physician supervisor. So it's good.
I mean, and it keeps everybody aware. And there was nothing too related on it? No, there was nothing related to it. No, there was a play on it as there normally would be, but it was a completely different type of call.
So it's just a reaction. And, you know, I mean, if you break down both calls, the Brady thing is Jerome Boger felt like he slammed them into the ground, you know, as part of making a tackle, which I think nobody agrees with, including me. And then you get the situation with Derek Carr where Jones, I think it was, lands on top of him with some of his body weight, not all of his body weight, but the circumstances to that. Knocking the ball loose, setting the ball, a loose ball in his right arm. There's no way he could get his right arm out of there and brace his ball. You know, his left arm braced his ball. So that was not a good call either, but two separate categories that, you know, starts out really because it was Tom Brady.
I mean, so that generates even more conversation just because who it is. And then the Derek Carr situation, which had all those other circumstances in it, which, you know, to me, obviously doesn't make that a foul too. So it just wasn't a good weekend when it comes to that. Well, I mean, the Chris Jones thing moment was gasoline on a fire that had already started burning out of control because of the Grady Jarrett on Brady play the day before Mike Pereira. And now that we've established that there is no directive that you know of amongst your colleagues in the officiating profession, in the NFL officiating profession, having come down from on high saying the two of stuff means let's start hammering down on roughing the passer in a manner that we previously to the season said let's lay off on it a little bit. Now that we've established that, this is reactive.
If you're saying this is reactive, right? And you just walked us through those two moments with Jerome Boger calling it in Tampa and Carl Jeffers calling it in front of the whole country in Kansas City. This would absolutely have been fixed had this been reviewable, had this been replayable. And my question to you is, why isn't this currently reviewable in your estimation, Mike Pereira? Why? Well, I mean, listen, you're talking to an advocate of it.
I know that. Just from the just from the standpoint of it, the in the USFL last year, we made all personal fouls calls reviewable. And I think I think if you're going to do it, you can't just stop with roughing the passenger. I mean, everybody said, oh, well, that's a huge call. It's a huge call. Well, so is a chop block call that's incorrect. That carries a 15 yard penalty also.
So does a face mask call that turns out it wasn't a face mask. I mean, to me, when you look at the severity of the foul, you're looking at the one that is most severe, which is pass interference, which failed miserably a couple years ago trying to make that reviewable. But when it comes to personal fouls, you know, I think you could make that reviewable. If it's called as we did in the USFL, but you'd have to take a different approach.
And we've been through this a gazillion times. I, I have been an advocate of the eighth official called the sky judge column, whatever you want, get an eight view. College has eight views. They have eight officials on the field. The NFL has seven, put a guy in a box, give him access to look at the live shot quickly, you know, run it back and see it quickly. And then you see the replays quickly and then just give input. It's, I don't get how it's not a lot of difference when you see a block in the back call and then they pick it up. Well, why did they pick it up?
Because someone that had a different angle comes in another official and says, Hey, that block was from the side. I mean, that's the next huge step. I think if you're going to do something and then give that person the, the wherewithal to, you know, to change these two calls that were made. So. So what's, I totally agree with you, Mike. You know, you and I are lockstep on this. What is the resistance to it?
What is it? Well, I think the resistance to it is just the fact that the competition committee just feels like that's too much. It's that they want the game played on the, on the field, which it really isn't now anyways, when it comes to instant replay decisions are basically made in New York. I think their concern is about the time.
How long will it take the disruption? I mean, I, I, I just would like them to take a look at the spring league and say, okay, how did it work? For example, in the USFL and the semi-finals game, we had a roughing the passer called on an interception that was an 80 yard interception, took away an 80 yards interception. It, it, it wasn't roughing the passer.
It was kind of one of those were body weight, but it was to the side. He didn't land on top of them. And so like seamlessly, we just from the replay center just said, it's not about took it off away. We went and it had a huge impact in the outcome of the game. It can be done, but I, I would like to think that they do it using a crew of eight officials and not replay. And, uh, but we'll see, I, it will get discussion every year, but you know, it usually falls flat on its face before anybody even tries it, for example, which you could in the preseason. I mean, we we've said we're heading that direction anyways, right? We already have the replay official make expedited reviews. Okay. We're already doing that. So take it a step further.
And I think you can, you can avoid some of these big mistakes. Mike, you were there at the first, uh, owner's meeting and the NFL network ever covered. It was 2004, the spring. It was at the breaker's hotel in Florida. Um, that was where instant replay became permanent. You were in that room.
And I remember Charlie Casley was on the competition committee, told the owners, look, everybody's got it at home. Everybody sees it at home. We should use it here.
And of course, you know, I think, uh, Mike Brown voted against it and now Davis abstained and off you went and was became permanent, right? Now we have it. It's the same thing here. And we're seeing it in the game for, uh, whether the ball is spotted properly. We're seeing it in the game about whether something's a fumble or not. We're seeing it in the game to try and save challenges for coaches right now. We're seeing it with Hawkeye.
We're seeing it. Why can't this be folded in once the season's over? I get it, right? Cause they're never going to do something in the middle of the season. If somebody does have an epiphany on this, right? That won't happen.
Right. You know, I listen, we are lockstep in this and it could happen if they wanted it to happen, but here's another thing. It, it, it hits its fever pitch when something like this happens in week five.
Okay. Now I've always said this where the people say now in week five, will they change it? Will they change this in the off season? Trust me when it actually gets to the first competition committee meeting, which is going to be toward the end of February, it's going to be a distant memory. It's not even going to be anything that anybody's talking about.
Unless it happens in a championship game or the Superbowl, you might as well get, you might as well deal with it now before it happens in the biggest game possible. I mean, that's it. It won't be a topic of discussion unless it does.
That will be the time we said that about overtime and overtime has changed over time. Um, you know, but, uh, we just have to, I just have to wonder in my mind with this happening in week five, if it really becomes even a discussion point at the end of February. Well, there's a way to fix that too, Mike.
There's another way to fix that too. Rich Eisen campaign. Yes. Put me on the competition committee, put me on the competition committee. I will show up in Florida with a videotape or whatever, you know, manner in which, uh, they want it to be shown, uh, a link or whatever and a blowtorch. I will show up with both of those things and, and we won't lose the intensity to use the phrase of Michael Irvin.
You know, I will not lose the intensity because this is something that needs to change. We can see it and it's refs helping refs. Hey, Carl, he didn't, you know, put his full body weight on him.
He couldn't have because he had the football. Hey Jerome, he just put him from his right hip to his left hip. Pick up the flag. It takes 45 seconds. The officials just all huddle up together, make it look like they're talking to each other, even though they're talking to New York City and let's go.
What's wrong with them? And the key is to what you said, which I like is it's rep to rep. It's not instant replay to ref. It's refs helping refs. It's ref to ref.
It's an onsite ref to ref. I think that's good, but I think if they consider putting you on the committee, they'd say, well, we only have a four day meeting. If we have eyes on them, it might last a week. Who doesn't want to hang another day on the NFL dime? Mike, come on now, please.
Everybody does. We'll get a massage. We'll do something. Who knows? We'll figure it out.
Go to the spa, you know? So last thing for you too is what do you think is happening in the NFL offices involved with Devante Adams, who was just charged with assault of shoving over that member of the media in the tunnel? What do you, what do you make of that? We already know that the league is taking action, right? For a player going off the field, flipping off a crowd. And you know, when you think about the fines that are associated with that, now you get a physical altercation that is certainly, you know, all the responsibility of Adams. I think they're looking at, I would imagine that they're looking at this pretty seriously. And when you get an assault charge, you know, assault filed, they're very, they've got to be very concerned like that with this. And I think that when you do think about, you know, even though this is a cameraman on the field, the action they take or abusive language or whatever to a fan, I mean, I think this is something on the hot plate right now that they're going to deal with, I would think, rather severely. Mike Pereira, greatly appreciate your time as always.
Let's do this again soon enough. Thanks, sir. You got it. That is Mike Pereira. At Mike Pereira, a must follow on Twitter right here on The Rich Eisen Show. And that wraps up our number two of our show, Jeannie Buss, controlling owner of the Los Angeles Lakers in studio when we come back.
Don't go anywhere. If it's good for the USFL, it should be good for the NFL. If they're seeing in the USFL an 80-yard interception return for a touchdown get wiped off by a roughing the passer penalty, and they can then buzz down and say, we looked at it. It's not roughing the passer.
Let the play stand. I understand there's not the same amount of scrutiny, eyeballs and gambling dollars placed upon the results of a USFL game as there is an NFL game. I get it.
But that's even more so to do it for the NFL. Bingo. Exactly.
Hit the hit the middle of the target, just like Robbie Ray yesterday. Sorry Seattle fans. Period. Yeah, end of story. There's too much at stake. We can see how it works and Mike's like, we were on it.
People can be on it. I think it should be done out of New York City. He thinks it should be another official performing that same watch guard duty in the stadium. Fine. You want to do that? Great. The NFL has the ability to set up the equipment.
I'm just concerned about finding the locals who can handle the same thing in the same way that a professional sky judge maybe might be able to do from the from the New York offices. I'd prefer to just keep it there. Yeah. They already have the communicate. They're already communicating with the officials at site. Just fold this into it.
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