REShow: Michael Lombardi - Hour 2

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Get ready for a lot of those. Illegal contact penalty coming because the competition committee wants to come. Earlier on the show Tampa Bay Times Bucks beat writer Rick Stroud. Coming up former NFL executive Michael Lombardi. NBC Sports Boston Patriots insider Tom Curran. Stanford head coach David Shaw. And now it's Rich Eisen. Yes it's our number two of the Rich Eisen Show on the air. Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times was on our program in hour number one talking about Tom Brady's return to action in the preseason and returned to the Bucks earlier last week and now he's back and everything that was discussed about his mid-summer sabbatical. All of that whether Brady addressed the Dana White comments that he got Brady and Gronk all set to go to Vegas and then Gruden pulled the rug out from under everything.

All of that discussed with Rick Stroud. It's sitting on our YouTube stream right now and that's where we're seen every single day for the time being. We are right around the corner from September and it is in the month of September that we will be seen on the Roku channel for free every single day between 12 to 3 eastern time on Roku devices.

Select Samsung televisions, Fire TV, the Roku app where the Roku channel is also free can be downloaded to any mobile device and if you're a desk topper the rokuchannel.com is how you can watch the Rich Eisen Show every single day. Michael Lombardi who is part of the Musburger V-Sin media world. He's going to be joining us in about 19 minutes time and then in hour number three it'll be time for Tom Carrey, Tom Eekearn of NBC Sports Boston to talk about how the Patriots offense is scaring the daylights out of every single Patriot fan in Patriot nation right now. There's also a fun chat on the horizon with David Shaw the head coach of Stanford football as college football began last week. They call it week zero. I find that very very funny because the losses count. The losses count in week zero and Nebraska fans are licking their wounds today. Scott Frost man was going up 11 in Ireland on Northwestern and decides to onside kick and they don't score a point the rest of the game. Northwestern my other alma mater comes back to win that game as Scott Frost falls to 15 and 30 as the head coach of Nebraska football and 21 of those 30 games are one score losses.

Unbelievable. So that's the way and I already saw some people complaining about Big Ten officials which means the season's begun because Big Ten officials can suck in week zero too apparently. Stanford's first game is coming up this very weekend and who are they taking on?

I should know that. They're taking on USC in week number two. USC's taking on Rice first up this weekend. Lincoln Riley versus Rice.

That's coming up this weekend. Can you do your Rice please? Every time I think of Rice I think of Lou Holtz complaining about how tough Rice is going to be so they could warm up for Michigan as Bo Schembechler did not schedule a warm-up for Notre Dame game.

That always infuriated me. Stanford warms up with Colgate. Colgate that's right.

Colgate. So David Schall will be joining us in hour number three. Don't miss all of that. Let's go to our phone lines 844-204. It's number down one of our favorites Kathy in Philadelphia here on The Rich Eyes and Show. What's up Kathy? Hey fellas how's it going? What's going on? Well I'm calling to be a bit of a Debbie Downer this morning.

As a Bill fan obviously this weekend was tough. I am I guess relieved that my DM and head coach did the right thing from a person standpoint regardless of football so I'm relieved that we can say that. But with regards to obviously Matt Ariza my concern was that there was reports that other teams knew about the allegations pre-draft and didn't do or say anything because he wasn't on their board. So my question I guess is at what point does morality matter? Now obviously we shouldn't look to the NFL as the standard bearers for morality but within the organization and within teams at what point does morality matter when we're not talking about nonsense like you know Twitter posts from when they were in junior high or hand size or whatever the fact that this is a heinous crime that was being accused or is being accused. No I know that Kathy it's just that that nothing was you know out there for everyone to see in court papers about it and you know the number of rumors I hear at combines and drafts every year it would make your your hair stand on end and then nothing ever comes out because it's just a rumor and an NFL team hears about what's going on on campus they're not going to share with everybody because if a player's stock drops and somebody is spreading a rumor about him and it's it's you know defamatory and false I mean what are you gonna do that's that that's why I don't know what to say about it other than the fact it's just a horrible horrible crime that it appears Matt Ariza could be could be charged with and the bills had to cut him there was just no other way for them to move forward about it but 100% agreed I completely agree on that standpoint I guess my my concern is at one point like at what point is there a okay this all the behind the scenes need to be investigated and of course and and like you said you can't you you know go see a slander libel or any any other those you know fun legal words but is there a threshold of okay this sounds serious let's let's put a little more you know shoulder into this investigation and we would say you know twitter posts well I know and I know that Kathy and thanks for the call greatly appreciate it that that teams share medical information with each other you know this MRI that x-ray shows this because you can actually see a break you know you can actually see the science on a screen you can't you know share rumors with each other you can't have like some clearinghouse for for rumors or what's being talked about on campus because at what like what's the standard that it it could rise to that makes makes it reported into the rumor mill that's shared amongst all 32 teams you know is it is it a is it a horrible crime what determines what's a horrible crime I guess you know it when you see it I just I don't know how they could do something like that but just our caller Kathy just brought up uh Matt Ariza bills had no choice to do what they did no choice and I'm surprised they didn't do it on the spot I guess they have to do their due diligence they have to think about it but I mean they had apparently it was late July when a member of their legal staff was contacted to give them a heads up that Matt Ariza was going to have a civil suit filed against him on these charges or alleged I guess you get charges aren't alleged he's not charged yet but the bills aren't going to own this and I know he's incredibly talented as a punter that's why we gave him a name image and likeness deal last year which makes me sick to my stomach 10 days after this alleged incident happened we had no idea you had no clue but the bills found out and it took them some time but they eventually did what they had to do which is like you take care of that Matt and if you get cleared you know maybe we come back here we'll talk but we're we got a super bowl to go win we're not gonna we're not gonna own this that's what I said the other day I couldn't believe they were even taking him to the game but they cut him 8 4 4 2 0 4 Rich is the number to dial it's a Monday you ready to do overreaction Monday Christopher let's go let's hit it please before Michael Lombardi joins us that was crap that was garbage this place sucks overreaction Mondays all right Christopher go for it all right let's uh let's start with the Steelers we just heard from Mike Tomlin about the quarterback situation I'm gonna go here I think they actually should just start Kenny Pickett week one I don't think you do that uh I I you're gonna start the kid anyway at some point so why not just put him out there week one I don't see how it goes you got Trubisky and and if he is a guy that can give you that Alex Smith to Mahomes here if he can give you that uh Garoppolo to Trey Lance here you take it you take it you got some serious veterans in your locker room you've got some serious kids at other positions that can blossom like Pickens you give them the best opportunity with a veteran guy with a chip on his shoulder who has the opportunity in front of him to remake himself but you drafted Pickett for a reason you're going to turn to him at some point he may be ready but if Trubisky begins to falter that's when you go with the kid if the kid's thrown in there in the deep end of the pool against the Cincinnati Bengals you're going to give him week two of his of his career against Belichick who eats rookie quarterbacks for breakfast lunch and dinner has them with fava beans and a nice Chianti no way uh I say you you you go with Trubisky because he's looked good enough to start it and let's see how it goes and if you give Pickett the year to sit there and watch and ruminate or can go to him in the middle of the season a la Tua over Ryan Fitzpatrick even though hindsight has shown that some people didn't want that to happen I think that's what you're going to do so I'll say that's an overreaction sir great great great uh this one's mostly just for me um I know we're going to talk to Tom later maybe he'll uh you know talk me off the uh the bridge there but uh Tom Kern Brady's not gonna be on the show Brady's not calling Tom Kern's gonna call it got it so the Patriots are just in for a long season offensively it just kind of is what it is at this point it feels that way but it's the number of times that you think the Patriots are dead in the water and then they do their job and they figure it out and Belichick gets them to understand how to do it and then suddenly a team that can't get out of their own way on offense is suddenly doing situationally brilliant things in the middle of a fourth quarter to win football games that other teams don't with players usually too green to figure it out just like that team last year McDaniel's being out in two guys like Judge and Patricia who have never done it to have it turned over to them makes it seem like Belichick doesn't know what he's doing but I think deep down you got to trust him you got to trust him yeah I want to see what the first month looks like I mean the first month is kind of the de facto preseason anyway I just don't think we're going to be sitting here week 10 week 12 saying this team was doomed from the start that the preseason is exactly what we thought it was I'll just I'll give you that benefited out and say that's an overreaction man that's gonna be I'll still just say okay it's an overreaction but we'll see what Tom has to say and Lombardi Mike Lombardi who just you know whose kid is the offensive coordinator in Vegas and he knows McDaniel's and he's he knows Belichick I mean I'm sure he was all over that so he must have some thoughts on the subject matter too what else Chris uh what's today's date guys it's uh August 29th it's August 29th Jimmy G's still on this uh San Francisco 49ers roster I still think Jimmy G will be a seahawk at some point I don't know brother the only reason why I think that is well I'll say that's proper I don't think that's an overreaction either but again I'm a jet fan who can't get Geno Smith and his broken jaw out of my head I'm serious man I just you know and and guys I just feel Geno Smith beating out Drew Locke is exactly what the rest of us feel not a good sign not a good sign that you trade Russ Wilson for a young quarterback and that guy can't beat out Geno Smith and I know that Geno has some time in the system and I know that Drew Locke had COVID and I know that there wasn't enough time that's what Pete Carroll said they just didn't have enough time to beat out Geno but if on the 49ers I hang on a garoppolo as long as possible and make sure that he's not on the Seahawks until the last possible moment until the last possible moment so I'll say that's a I think that's spot on I think that's spot on what else Chris all right um gosh did you see how the Dolphins started the other day yeah to it there was a 50-yard bomb at Tyrique do you know what the Dolphin single season touchdown reception record is no sir Mark Clayton in 1984 caught 18 I'm gonna say to a Tyrique are gonna challenge the Marino Clayton dolphins oh man I'll call that an overreaction for the moment come on I'm with you you are you I I'm coming around a little bit I just think I gotta say I don't know man they are blitzkrieg is working on me to uh to Tyrique more prolific in scoring touchdowns in a single season then Marino and Mark Clayton oh my gosh yeah I'll say that's an overreaction but I can't wait to see what this offense looks like man I'm getting kind of excited I gotta ask Lambo about that too because he's he's the king of who you know crapping on the Dolphins for taking two over Justin Herbert but I just think it's all set up if Tua is accurate and he throws a good ball and he throws an accurate ball he throws a catchable ball right catchable ball and he's not like you know throwing a bomb you know he's he's not Mahomes like he's not Rogers not like he's not Russ like and throwing deep balls just get these guys in open space five yards beyond the line of scrimmage and go yeah certainly if there's going to be all these illegal contact penalties and everybody's going to be like not touching you until that five yard mark because it's going to be a flag in there that's in the brains of all these defensive backs use that to your advantage and if somebody knows how to use it to his advantage it's Mike McDaniel I think I think I still think that's an overreaction all right let's talk about Mike McDaniel's former team real quick did you see how many points they scored over the weekend 49ers we talked about it on Friday because that game was on Thursday night and how Lance did not give anybody any he had a fuel to whatever fire there is as you know I think he's going to do very well there all right so let's hit the here's my topic here Lance's growing pains are going to be too much for the 49ers to make the playoffs no no overreaction I'll say that I will say that they're too talented and I think this kid is really good and at some point he's going to start beating you with his feet and the game will slow down for him and he's going to get his bearings and he might get he might beat the Bears and then get his bearings how about that yeah man I like it they start against the Bears and the Seahawks come on brother it should be 2-0 and feeling really good about themselves and I think there could be a nice wind at the Niners back that they're one of the few 2-0 teams in the 2022 season and so on and so forth I know that there can always be you know backslide but I think this team is too talented with a coaching staff too smart and this kid is gonna I don't know I'm high on Lance I was the minute I heard his name yeah so what all right last one I was uh oh nice all right we'll get one let George talk about it first the last one I was kind of dialed into the NFL network top 100 last night um top 10 revealed no Josh Allen Josh Allen 13 a lot of people took issue with that uh voted on by their peers so you know talk to the other players but uh a familiar name atop the list Tom Brady was number one once again in the top 100 Aaron Donald number two for the second straight year uh and with all due respect to the goat he's my fair play ever Aaron Donald is the best player in the NFL I kind of feel the same way Christopher like what do we what do we do I kind of feel the same way but I think it's just a it's a nod to how Brady is as great as they come he's a goat is that like a lifetime achievement number one is that what you're saying I feel like it but I mean I think it was number seven last year yeah he went from seven last year all the way back up the number one I mean he did lead the league in passing yards and touchdowns but but just being in the doing it as long as he's been doing it and doing it as well as he's been doing it for as as late in his career as he's been and you know no one will ever match what he has done but Aaron Donald basically you know kind of took over the Super Bowl and Aaron Donald is the best player in the national football league I just again at the moment with the finger and I don't know okay Chris I am with you sir and that's another edition of overreaction monday we'll take a break and we'll be back with Mike Lombardi on his two cents pretty much everything we just talked about I think you I think you just ran down the list of a lot of topics for Michael Lombardi that I wanted to ask him well done the gm shuffle podcast host of v-send coming up next back here on the rich eisen show 844-204 rich number to dial uh he's one of our favorites but hasn't been on in quite some time in a while from the world of v-sin back here on the rich eisen show on the mercedes-benz vans phone line our friend former nfl executive in many spots Michael Lombardi how you doing lambo rich I am doing great good to be back with you again hope all is well let's hope uh let's hope this football season is as good as every last one that you've been part of we've been part of and it sure sure looks to be the case right now which team coming out of uh preseason concerns you the most based on uh off-season maneuvers and whatever you've seen over the last several weeks michael you know the cowboys they won 12 games last year and really after the season that heartbreaking they got physically beat up especially in their offensive line against a better 49ers team who dominated them at home that day and losing smith their left tackle you know and losing some other elements collins their right tackle these are two guys that are hard to replace now taron steel is going to go in at right tackle but what's going to happen you lose your left tackle in the national football league it's hard it's one of the things the rams kind of overcame last year when when whitworth went down note bloom played well they were fortunate there everybody was worried about that depth there that came through i would say dallas where they were last year and how philly has improved to me is the one is the one two teams that i'm looking at yeah i uh when um when tyrone smith went down it just sealed for me what i've been trying to talk myself into for the last several weeks is that philadelphia this is their division to to snatch from from dallas because i just didn't like some of the moves that happened with dallas this off season uh i know michael parsons is going to be better just the way things happen certainly with generationally talented kids as he appears to be i just don't know how you replace tyrone smith despite his injury history over the last couple years michael well they drafted tyler smith to go over there but they were putting him at left guard figuring they had another year now we'll see what they do how they maneuver this offensive line that he get you know he's had the fancy to be have holding penalties so look i i think it's the defense can certainly be good you know sam williams looks like a bright young rookie i think with lawrence and some of the other players fowler that they signed to replace randy gregory they have a they have a a way to be better defensively but offensively is the biggest concern for me because of they need to have a way to run the football effectively they don't want back throwing it 45 50 times i think what they'll do rich is move pollard as a slot receiver he'll replace c.d lamb they'll move lamb outside to replace amari cooper hopefully they get michael gallup back as as they go and the jaylen tolberts and miller browns those guys have to take a giant mother may i step forward and they're going to have to figure all that stuff out against uh the tampa bay buccaneers and tom brady on the first sunday night of the season in front of the whole country we'll talk about a difficult spot to work out the kinks what is your sense of things with the the buccaneers brady being back he had a little cup of coffee but there's a a lot of issues right there in front of him what what are your two cents on that michael you know like you said rich when you have a lot a lot of stuff going on in your life it's challenging as we get older you know i mean it's the a line that gets us although father he's undefeated against father time let's be clear here he's the only one who's been able to so far father time in the eye but i think the offensive line's got to concern him i think that god would not be in a hundred percent healthy has to concern him and they're going to have to ride their defense a little bit earlier in the season as their offense kind of gets together in the indianapolis game watching the tape of them he looks like he's 35 when i went to the patriots in 14 you know and i watched the tape the other day of him against indianapolis he looked the same i mean he doesn't age he's an ageless wonder he's truly he's found that cocoon that ron howard wrote the movie about i don't know where it is but tom has found it and so it's great and i and i think their defense has got to do the one that carried the work i think misson gronk you know oj howard never manifested himself to the player that they hope can cameron break kyle rudolph are they going to be able to step up and fill that void there's a lot of moving pieces in tampa and i think todd bowles is a really good coach and i think he'll prove to be a better head coach than he was with the jets but i think the first month of september is going to be a little sorting out the gm shuffle podcast and the lombardi line both from v sin and michael lombardi here on the rich isin show show you've served him uh over many years uh michael i don't know if you're aware as my belicheck whisperer in many different ways what what is your sense of what's going on with the new england patriots right now michael well i i think they're in a transitionary state i i think when josh mcdaniels left and tom brady is now gone and all the the volumeness of the office that they had with them has kind of left and now they have to find their own identity with i think the head coach having to take over and really become the focal point of what they want to do offensively as joe judge and matt patricia transition to the other side of the ball or for joe judge's case from the kicking game so i think it's a work in progress i think mac jones is really talented i think mac jones is kind of one of those players that has looks like he's improved his body improved his arm and they've got enough talent offensively to move the football effectively they haven't done it well in the pre-season i think it's deeper than who calls the place i think it's about the design but more than the design i think it's about the fundamentals and the details that i don't think they've ironed out and i'm pretty sure knowing bill as well as i do he's going to get that worked out well i mean he does yeah and they get comfortable i think they can improve offensively so why why do all the changes or undertake all the changes that belicheck has undertaken and not put all of the offense with those changes at a very important moment across section of mac jones's career year two that year one year two leap why why would belicheck do that and not place the offense in the hands of somebody who is an old hand i mean he's he's known people for decades why wouldn't he do that uh with somebody who's done it before right that's never really been what he's done i mean that's never been his modus operandi i mean when he's transitioned from coordinators it's always been someone that he's developed from within and when josh left you know there there really wasn't anybody that he felt like he could josh took other people with him to the raiders and so i think he had to kind of manage this from bringing somebody from the outside in to run their system has never been part of the belicheckian philosophy it's going to be how he wants to run the game now i think ultimately that's going to have to develop and certainly from judge and patricia's standpoint they're going to have to catch up rather quickly but he is the best coach in football and he's going to have to exert himself on the offense michael lombardi here on the rich isin show um i've been saying it since they got chandler jones and devante adams in the span of about a week uh i think with mcdaniels going to vegas i like the the raiders in the afc west i'm kind of standing uh a very in a very thin crowd michael uh talk me uh out of it or tell me i'm right you go for it well you know for full disclosure my son's the offensive coordinator so you know my heart's with the raiders and my heart's with your prediction but i do love i do love what they've done i think garrett carr with gruden really improved when gruden went in there they couldn't car didn't throw the ball down the field over the three seasons that gruden had car he got him to throw down the field i think he's going to embrace and i was at practice last week rich watching the raiders and the patriots and i could feel the energy from the offensive players towards mcdaniel's offense and we know mcdaniels can run an offense and i think people tend to go back to his experience in denver i didn't get that experience on that practice field i think all the players are buying in for what mcdaniels is selling at the las vegas raiders and with the skill that they have darren waller when he gets back on the field and i fully expect him to be back there week one is an outstanding player he's a unique talent to go along with adams and hunter renfro think about hunter renfro last year 82 percent of the time when the ball was thrown to hunter renfro he made the catch the best in the national football even better than cooper cup so they've got skilled players josh jacobs can run i think the key for the raiders for to to fulfill your prediction is simply this they must play from in front and that allows max crossby charler jones to rush the pasture to do what they do really well if they get into a slug fester have to play from behind their offensive line will get exposed and their lack of size and power on the edges will also be affected so yeah and also mick has got to call a heck of a game right your son i think he's got josh to help him a lot that helps him with that too well i mean you i mean you're as locked in as they possibly can come you must even know the the real estate agent who had to tell uh you know his boss tom brady's not taking the house right in vegas you must even know that person well that that is it you know i i said this on instagram on one of those reels that i was taught how to make my my dear friend his daughter yes i mean you know i don't dana white doesn't mean to verify the story it's true i mean it's very true and i don't know the reasons why john got cold feet but it is a true story i mean john i can't believe that and and i love derek car i do but how do you get brady and gronk knocking on your door uh at that point in time and obviously it's not a guarantee that vegas would have had the same success as tampa but what is it like because doesn't gruden love you know old school veteran quarterbacks i mean brady is the king of that i don't get it yeah but i think i i think it would have been a hard marriage i think gruden likes old school quarterbacks that'll kind of do what he wants them to do and i think brady likes to typically likes to do what he does they're two different systems i think it would have been a hard marriage to really because brady comes from a unique way i think there are cars learning that now i think there are cars experience it with josh mcdaniels it's a completely different way of operating an offensive football team the patriot way that has happened over the time from charlie weiss to josh mcdaniels to billy o'brien and then back to josh again it's a unique way and and i think that john's different in how he approaches the game from a team's collective standpoint and i think that would have probably frustrated frustrated brady i guess so but uh just to linger on this one a split second here longer michael embardi is just didn't tom kaufman change his stripes right no response honestly like he he i think the mark of the mark of a great coaches adapt adaptability right so you're going to have to adapt and look and when you look over john's career rich he never has trained a young quarterback in his system he's always had veteran guys rich gannon mvp of the league in 2002 not with gruden but with bill callahan but in 01 he was very good with gruden and then you know brad johnson and tampa bay and you know and the players that gravitate themselves to are guys that are not quite at elite level he makes them better i don't know if that would have worked michael embardi here on the rich eisen show uh and the few times that you've been on this program over the years michael uh i definitely picked one thing up when when you said whoever would look at herbert and tua on the same field and says let's go with tua over herbert was just out of their out of their minds how do you think this is it uh right i mean this is it for tua to have a shot to be an everyday starter and star in this league he's got one year um left uh i think in which to do it if he doesn't who knows you know people knock around and then get another shot eventually again but but this is an important year for tua do you think he's set up for success do you think he will show what the dolphins saw in him and a lot of other evaluators michael well i i think they're trying to convince themselves i mean you've never heard a better propaganda campaign about a player in preseason that you have about tua i mean it's really every day he's been sensational i mean you know and to me you've never had to hear a coach say tom brady was sensational he just was you know and when you examine to his career it's you know the throws he's very accurate he doesn't have elite size he doesn't have elite speed he doesn't have elite escape ability and if you rush him a certain way where he's forced to play quarterback from the pocket he's going to struggle now i don't know the name of the punter but but he has less 30-yard completions in the air than most every player i mean he doesn't throw the ball down the field now i know he's got tyree kill this year but it struggles i mean in the two games he played against the patriots the one game he won at the end of the year he threw 109 yards passing i mean he plays and i think to me what i would often is overlooked about to it is when the weather turns bad watch the tennessee game when it started to rain late in the season and he couldn't really grasp the football and make those plays i don't see it rich i think can he be effective sure can you put better players around it but to win in the national football league to win a title you've got to be able to throw the ball from a drop back pass game when the other team knows you have to throw it and i don't think too it can do that and i think you can mask it along but at some point you've got to be able to do what i just said and i don't see it in a crucial moment for the 49ers we all knew they'd have to turn to trey lance that was going to happen or whoever they were to choose third overall the minute they made that trade for a young quarterback and moved up you knew jimmy g the clock was ticking for him and now it appears to be this is it they're going to do it even though uh there was some ups and downs last year and this preseason didn't really set many uh uh hairs on fire what are your two cents on lance and the 49ers and they're set up for success this year michael lumbar well i think they went all in on lance i'm not sure and i and i've said this and i truly truly believe that kyle would have picked mack jones i think he got convinced to take trey lance as the bigger upside player you know that's been debated debated over time i still see it the way i see it i would say that's rich i think what kyle's going to do offensively will look more like the rg3 offense when he was in washington i think kyle knows he can't run the offense that he ran with garoppolo right now with trey lance that's not going to work he's not going to sit back there process read it out i think you're going to see a little bit of a single wing i think you're going to see a little bit of what buffalo did late in the season where they run their quarterback where they put him involved in the run game and try to get them on the perimeter try to get them high low reads outside i think if i'm chicago and matt eberbloom's getting ready to play the 49ers i'm concerned about i don't know what the game plan is going to be but i will say this you can count on lance being able to be involved in that run game i think he'll carry it more than 10 times in that game i think that's kyle knows the best chance he has to win is play great defense run the ball include the quarterback in the run game and don't turn it over before i ask you your super bowl prediction i would be remiss if i didn't ask somebody who uh spent time in cleveland a considerable time in cleveland what you think of the browns and the last several weeks months with their acquisition of dishawn watson and then the dishawn watson suspension and what this team looks like this year and moving forward i'll give you the whole enchilada to comment on michael and party well i mean look you know i was a huge dishawn watson fan coming out of of clemson in fact i i was standing on the table that the browns should draft them at the 12th pick that they traded to the houston texans for houston to pick watson and clearly that that character assessment that i had at that current time hasn't looked correct at this point and to me to do what they did to guarantee his full contract after the off season and the past performance that he had to me i think was uncalled for i think it really didn't set a very good precedent for the national football league or for the other teams and now that he's been suspended for 11 games i think they're in the worst spot they could be if i were the general manager in cleveland i would trade for garoppolo because he runs the same offense in cleveland as they run in san francisco it's the gary kubiak mike shanahan version of the west coast i would put him in that place and try to win games get a compensatory pick for him when he becomes a free agent and then rebrand ourselves with watson i think look the browns have not handled this correctly i think the press conference after the suspension was announced wasn't very well done i don't think it was well characterized by the owner by anybody in the building and i think to me the messaging that needs to occur moving forward is watson needs to re-engage he needs to prove that all this great positive qualities that people echoed in clemson are actually true and get into the community and do things to help his career to rebrand him to show what he truly is as a person i think that needs to take forward as a four football team look i think cleveland's good i worry about percent we drafted him when i was in new england i think jacoby's a wonderful person i think he's a great leader i think he struggles to be a starting quarterback over an extended period of time whether it was in indianapolis or miami i think it's a tough spot for the browns yeah and then two things you just said i want to just follow up on michael uh that that you think that the 11 game suspension puts the browns in a very difficult spot peter king and his football morning in america column today said he learned that roger gudel heard heard from many owners saying they didn't want watson suspended for a full year because that allows the browns to get another year on the back end of his contract and that this that it would also financially help the browns this year that making sure that that watson had a suspension less than a year would put the browns in a very difficult spot and that was came from a lot of owners very upset about the way that the browns handled his contract by guaranteeing all of it would you would you echo those sentiments you think that's feasible having been in many owners rooms and meetings rooms like that michael i think there's no doubt every owner in fact my reaction to the contract when i heard it was oh my god they just violated the the secret code of the nfl of guaranteed contracts look when i was in the league you had a fund contracts that were skill and injury guaranteed skill and during salary cap you had to send the future year money to the league office and put it in escrow account no owner wants to do that no owner wants no business wants to tie up their money and out of the cash flow and put it in escrow cap this was put in place back in the 1960s when teams were worried about folding about not having enough money to beat payroll when the league wasn't as solvent as it is today and for the browns to do this to break that ranks for the first time in the history of the league for a quarterback that was involved in this controversy in this many civil suits to me how to make everybody unhappy and i think to me what what peter king reported i didn't read it this morning but i think there has to be some validity to it they're they're upset because now how do you handle lamar's contract without fully guaranteed how do you handle you know when justin herbert's contract comes up without fully every other con every contract is predicated on the last contract russell wilson sitting in denver saying hey i need a new deal okay i've been a good soldier here i know we've got a new owner but i'm going to need a new deal and i'm going to need it buttoned up just like just like uh the deshawn watson's deal yeah here we are i mean the monday before labor day weekend uh so we're now less than two weeks to the beginning of the season lamar jackson's still on sign them out might be the case and then the jimmy g conned uh um mentioned you just had that uh the brown should acquire him don't you think the niners are are gonna have to release him is that a game of cat and mouse that you think is going on what will suss out the the jimmy g scenario for us because the cut day is right here michael i reported this on my pod and do it on my show i'm told reliably that seattle is very interested in jimmy g and san francisco knows that and san francisco doesn't want them to go there they play in week two they really don't want to help seattle out with their quarterbacks seattle's quarterback room is the worst in the league by far i think everybody would agree with that maybe not seattle but most every team in the league would and garoppolo would go up there in the shane walgore offense which is very similar to what kyle runs remember walgore was in the rams with with shaw mcbay which is a byproduct of the shanahan offense and he would go up there and really lighten up their room he would give them a future at quarterback i don't think that's what with the 49 they're hoping somebody else comes down the road now john lynch claims he has a trade partner i don't see it yet rapidport reported a couple uh i think the other day that there he's hearing no trade nobody's talking i was with a bunch of teams and they told me there's no trades talking up with with with them and with the 49ers so yes rich to answer your question i do believe they have to release them i think they're going to wait as long as they have to because remember right now only the top 51 players count on the salary cap only the top 51 so they can get away with it right now but once the season starts and you have to count everybody that cap flexibility that they currently hold today won't be in place so they'll have to they could wait till what the friday before the opener in chicago the friday before yes they could definitely wait that but they're really i mean to me and look let's let's put this perfectly in perspective the guy in complete control of jimmy garoppolo currently right now is his agent donny because unless donny renegotiates the contract no team's taking that salary so even though john lynch may want to trade garoppolo to some team he can't do that unless really donny okay's a reduction because not many people in the league have 25 26 million of cap room to take on the contract so much to think about all right michael uh what's your prediction go for it who do you think plays in arizona for the whole deal we have a great we have a great betting guide that we put out the nfl betting guide and they make all of us uh do our super bowl prediction i urge everybody to check it out on vison.com i have green bay in kansas city i think this is green bay's moment i think aaron rogers is ready i know the receivers are going to be young i think green bay's really good on defense i think this is the best defensive team green bay's had in a long time so you're going to be really good on defense so you like aaron rogers despite the loss of devante adams to go and win the nfc and then win the whole thing that would be a remarkable turn of events that would surely be um yeah amazing for backer fans in it in my new book uh that will come out next football season okay i ranked the top 100 players and when i wrote up aaron rogers i compared them to a dart player the greatest dart player of all time over in great britain phil taylor look one thing about the packers rogers is going to give you a catchable ball i don't care who plays receivers michael lombardi thanks for the time greatly appreciate everyone check out the lumbar check out the lombardi line on vison gm shuffle pod also on vison the daily coach newsletter um look for more of my phone calls michael thanks for the time brother thank you rich appreciate you got it at m lombardi nfl on twitter i follow him you 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of our house we're we're near this hike here in los angeles for the people it's constant foot traffic in front of the place that we're at right now okay so uh we're we're out there and the kids did all the cooking and boy three kids in the kitchen oh my god with cleanup trying to you know trying to get them to understand that when you you know when you make stuff it's not just throw it in you got to measure there's a certain standard you know like right anyway so we're out there and we're selling the kids are selling okay you know and it's cute they got a sign like hey we cooked and susie's like they cooked all day you know they baked all day and i'm sitting out there i'm just in a chair i'm just wanna i'm the dad in the chair and um it's southern california so um it's good people watching it's good people watching yes and sus is sitting there um with some neighbors as well uh three three three ladies are sitting there susie's sitting there with two neighbors and some of the guys are walking by it's a hot day no shirts on no shirts on that's great i'm team no shirt so one guy comes up he said he's got a man bun and he's got no shirt on and um i could see that there's a certain level of interest that's been peaked ah interesting and he's like i don't know if i'm gonna get any of his brownies cookies the whole thing see he goes i don't know if i'm gonna get anything i just i just said these words looks like he could use a cookie oh that's what i said wow to the guy six-pack situation oh yeah yeah oh yeah it's uncomfortable it's yeah you know i i felt like it was one of those moments where um when susie watches a brad pitt movie and and you hear oh woof right like that sort of thing right yeah um so the guys start talking to the kids and susie then says you know where are you from you have an accent it's sort of like a southern guy they have a nice little chat and he walked away and she says to him before he walks away you know like thanks for doing this you know i 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