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What are your thoughts now, being behind 03? We just got to get a win. Earlier on the show, longtime NFL writer Peter King coming up. Legendary broadcaster Bob Costas, Steelers running back Jalen Warren, actor Kevin Pollak, and now it's Rich Eisen. Rich Eisen show is on the air.
Everybody, eight four four two zero four. Rich is the number to dial here on the program. We just had a delightful chat with Peter King. One with Bob Costas is upcoming. Also here on the program, Jalen Warren of the Pittsburgh Steelers, fresh off of his two touchdown AFC player, offensive player of the week performance.
He's on the program, even though his quarterback says people don't talk about him. But we're different. It's basically what I'm saying. Kevin Pollock is making his way to our studio. Talk about Tulsa King and so much more.
And joining us here off the top of our number two is my youngest boy, Xander. Is in school right now. My oldest. And my youngest, Cooper, is not because he's sitting right here on the Rich Eisen show. Hey, Cooper Eisen.
Cooper, Cooper, Tony. What up, Coop? What up, Coop? How are you, Cooper Tony? I'm great.
Doing really well. I'm very happy to be here. He's wearing. Glad to have you here. Wearing makeup.
Um, well. Actually, this—it's his natural shine. What are you talking about? It's not. Me, you're you're about to join us for higher register.
Okay, so, but news is just broken. Actually, yeah, this is kind of crazy. You you have this story, Chris, to to yeah, I do to bring to the people. Yeah, give me the drop, Mike Del Tufolo. Here it comes.
And I see breaking news. What do you got over there?
So involves the Philadelphia Eagles. Ian Rappport saying that quarterback Jalen Hurts is. Out on Sunday due to a superficial blood clot, and then the Eagles have released a statement. I can read it if you want. On Thursday, October eighth, Jalen visited the training room after practice, requesting treatment on his calf.
He informed the medical staff that he had been cleded during the Rams game on the fourth. Oh my word! This was his first treatment session for the calf injury following the game. After having practiced both fully Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday he received treatment, practiced in full. And was added to the practice report out of the abundance of caution.
Then ultrasound was performed on Saturday. Following the team's flight to London and the walkthrough, yeah, that couldn't have helped. By the way, a flight, yeah, transatlantic flight, and two of them in the span of three days. The ultrasound revealed a superficial blood clot. A medical staff and doctors in London reviewed the results and concluded that activity and mobility were important, and that Jalen could safely play.
Doctors recommended a follow-up ultrasound within seventy-two hours of the game and the return flight to Philadelphia. He. Played without limitation in the game on Sunday. Received treatment Monday and Tuesday. Practiced in full on Wednesday, as reflected in the practice report.
Throughout our time in London, and this week, have remained in communication with the league office regarding the matter. Wednesday night, a follow-up ultrasound revealed movement in the small blood clot. Oh my God! Jalen will be out for Sunday as we determine the appropriate course of action. His health and safety are our highest priority.
Yeah. I'd say so. Wow, that is scary. It is scary. This is like real life.
Yeah, serious danger stuff is my initial reaction. And then, in terms of hopefully that this is is it. This doesn't sound like a one week thing. By the way.
Sounds similar to something that Victor Wembenyama had, right, during his rookie season as well. And how much time did he miss? You want to look that up just so we could figure it out.
Well, first of all, sending our best to one of the best in the league. And my gosh, second season. The Philadelphia Eagles need to have a seance. I think at this point in time. You know, yeah.
So Wemby had a blood clot in his right shoulder, and then that was discovered in February, and he missed the rest of the season in 2025. I mean, which was 30 games. Just throwing it out there for food for thought. This could be completely different. We're not doctors, and blood clots are serious.
Totally. And Jalen Hurts, man. Tanner McKee will start then for the Philadelphia Eagles this week. Against the Carolina Panthers, and because you know Andy Dalton, as we all know, who famously was the backup for one one series in Chicago, where everything kind of went downhill. The Eagles walked into that week at at two and zero, and they have now lost that game against the Bears, then lost the game against the Rams after being up by ten, and then lost the game against Jacksonville, famously up with eight seconds to go.
And now they're staring a fourth straight loss in a row. I am looking at their depth chart right now. the The letter Q is all over the place for questionable, and D for doubtful, and IR. I mean, it is nuts. As Jalix Hunt, who got hurt in London, he's now doubtful for this game this week, and so is Will Shipley.
And I think they're just listing him as doubtful because they haven't been IR'd yet because they're out. The offensive line. Jordan Mailata is the only guy on this offensive line that was there for the Super Bowl twenty months ago. On the line, Willie Lampkin, Drew Kendall, Tyler Steen, and Marquel Bell are the guys. Landon Dickerson's on IR.
We all know Cam Jurgens got traded away after he was no longer the center and he moved to guard, where he wasn't as effective. And clearly, we also know what's going on with Lane Johnson having retired, and we send our best to him too. Saquon Barkley is questionable.
So is Devonte Smith.
So is Dontavian Wicks. My God, are they going to try and get Vince Papali suited up to try and play this week? It's crazy. Wow, what is happening? You think they bring back Andy Dalton now, right?
I don't. I mean, Cole Payton is their third stringer. I don't know what they're going to do, but this is serious business. This doesn't sound like, oh well, we'll just figure out the clot for this week, sit him out, and then you know, then he'll be back. By the way, it's a Monday nighter home for Dallas after that, then a Sunday nighter at Washington before the Giants coming.
I mean. If this is not a one-week thing, they're going to have to go through their first, you know, stretch of game. I guess they they started against Washington, but you know, three in a row in division, two in front of the whole country. Their season is in jeopardy, and then you feel silly even talking about it. Because of the seriousness of of of Jalen Hurts's malady, it's not an injury, man.
Wow. Eight four four two zero four. Rich is the number to dial here on the Rich Eisen show. Let's go to the WeatherTech fan line, Jim in Ohio. You're here on the Rich Eisen show on the WeatherTech fan line with me.
Hey, Rich. Hold on a second, Jim. I got to run through. It's me. It's Chris.
It's Mike Del Tufo. It's C.J. Jefferson, and my boy Cooper is here on the Rich Eisen show.
So, what's going on, Jim? Hey, I I heard your interview with Peter King, and it brought back a memory. And I've told this story a lot of times to friends and family. But I used to work at a very nice golf club in Cincinnati, and I had the chance to interact with Paul Brown for multiple years. This was late high school and early college.
I was a big golfer, played a lot of golf, and I worked at the golf club because I got to play the golf course. It was a beautiful golf course.
Well, Paul Brown couldn't have been any nicer.
Now, this is post-coaching. I think he might have still been involved as sort of like a general manager and sort, and he was the owner of the team, obviously. But, but he was pretty much you know beyond his coaching years. But the man would come play two to three times a week. I worked in the pro shop.
We'd load the bags on the carts and we'd pick the range and things like that. And and the guy would call me by my name. Which really floored me. I say, "Hey, Mr. Brown, I had to go out there today and say, Jim, I'll tell you what, I just didn't putt well, you know." And I thought I was the biggest thing in the world because Paul Brown would call me by my name.
I couldn't believe it. That's amazing, Jim, and I appreciate you.
So cool, you calling in to share that story. I mean, great memories. Right back at. Thanks for calling, Jim. Appreciate that.
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Do you know who Paul Brown is? It's okay. I mean, after this, now I know who he is. But was it Jim or Paul that they named the franchise after? Great, by the way, outstanding follow-up question.
Would you not say it's it's Paul? Yeah, it's Paul. Paul Brown was the the guy, and he's like, let's just call the team the Cleveland Browns. Because it was created for another, for a different league called the AAFC. I know you you know about the AFL that there was a merger.
That before that there was the AAFC. That was a rival to the to the National Football League. What? How do you think it would go at home? Be honest now.
If there was a new league, I was the owner of the team. And I said I want to call it the Los Angeles Eisens. How would that go at home? It doesn't ring well because.
So for the Eisens, what would be the mascot in this case? I guess. Great question. What would the mascot be? It would be our percent retriever.
Well, be one of our dogs. It would be Dylan, Dylan, or or Summer or Halo. Make you rest, right? Yeah, right. But it it doesn't have the same ring like brown.
You can't have a brown helmet and brown jerseys and. That's true too. Plus, the Cleveland Browns are they're they're the dog pound, right? Like they're like barking dogs. Ours will just roll over and say, "Pet me on on my stomach." That that's not a good mascot.
While you're around, while you're eating, I mean, that they're precious and not vicious, and I don't know how that really works. Even even better, Paul Brown's son owns the Bengals. That's right, because they move because because they they they started they created they created the Bengals. Did you know that too? Yeah.
So they're basically two NFL teams. Yes, in Ohio. Like there's no Ohio without the Brown family. The stadium. There's no Ohio.
That used to be Paul Brown Stadium. Correct. Oh yeah. Then they made it Pedro. Pay Joe Stadium.
My son Cooper is in here calling it the Pay Joe Stadium. Why not? Because it should be.
Okay. Before we get to Bob Costas, we're going to get to our usual Thursday segment, higher register. And this is fine because you've got a higher register to join us. Correct? Yes.
And listen, your your your voice is not, I don't think, built for the higher register. TJ, you know all about that, right? Yeah, I get beat up every week.
Okay, so it's time for our high. Register and by the way, if you're out there listening or or or watching, you can call at eight four four two zero four rich and give your higher register, which is what you do here on a Thursday.
So it's now time for a higher register that includes Cooper Eisen right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Brought to you by Sonos. Hit it. There's a chance the Rich Eisen shows, but there could be high. Register take of the week.
Hey, brought to you by Sonos. Chris Brockman, you're first up. Oh, sure.
Okay, great. Hire register. We have a monster game in London on Sunday. Texans, Jags.
Now, I did an overreaction Monday topic about on a Tuesday that the winner of this game is going to win the division.
Okay, and everyone's like, "Oh, you're crazy." The Texans are one and four, but here's the deal: I think after This game on Sunday, we're going to be saying that the Texans might still be the team to beat in the AFC North, AFC South. Oh my God! You didn't. You even go full higher register. You got the name of the division wrong.
My my son's here. We're trying to teach him how it's done. I'm not the best. Kind of think you could do better at it. And you got teach, but you really no.
You in all seriousness, you really think the Texans, if they're two and four behind the four and two Jaguars, would be? Don't think they're the best team in the division. What do you think of that? I don't think so. I think the Jaguars, all their wins so far, have been either clutch, destroying.
As I saw two weeks ago, that was not fun to watch when Trevor Lawrence could have made it in the end zone with eight minutes, but decided to kneel. That was their only good win. That was kind of like a punch in the face. But I feel like. The Texans' offense hasn't really gotten it going as much as we expected so far, and Trevor Lawrence is constantly playing well.
And their only loss was against the Broncos, right? But and I mean, if people know me, I'm not the biggest fan of the Broncos. It's true, but his friend Ryan in school—they're like the Sunshine Boys, you know. They're so united fans.
So tonight, you need to stay off your phone. But I'm with you too, Coop. I think it's the Jaguars. Regardless of what happens, but that's the higher register. T.J.
Jefferson, yeah, your higher register. Please go for it. You know, I try to stay away from them in higher register, but I couldn't pass it up this weekend. The Dallas Cowboys. Gotti, that offense, Rich, yes, sir, pretty well, right?
Yes, other side of the ball, not so much. But hey, we got Mike Pettin and Brockman. We had a defensive only team meeting, a team meeting already before Week Six.
So that being said, I think this is the week we resolve all of our problems.
Okay, T.J. Jefferson, that might be your greatest hire register yet.
Okay. Yeah, I really don't believe. Come on, that's what higher registers for. Come on.
Okay, we're we're having team meetings already. I know. And Mike Tomlin says that you're toast when that happens. Yeah. Like, come on, I Cooper.
Are you ready with your higher register? I guess so.
Okay, we'll see.
Okay, so the New England Patriots they went into the New Highmark Stadium. They got the first ever home loss for the Bills. That's correct. And then the Raiders at three and one. I believe your higher register was that they could have possibly went four and zero, but they went three and one.
And then the Patriots decided to make it three and two when they put forty five points up. And then I was watching that Monday Night Football game, and before Harrison Meevis. Kicked the field goal. I was like, maybe the Patriots could run away with the AFC East this year, ladies and gentlemen. All right, Coop, honey.
Maybe the Patriots can win the AFC East after all. Except that's not a higher register. Could be said with the deep boys. No, no, he he he's going higher register because I'm trying. At this point, still gotta go higher register.
No, you don't.
Well, plus that leads me to mine. Oh, okay. That leads me to mine because I'm looking at the defensive stats through five weeks in the National Football League. The top defense in the NFL in terms of points given up per game, Vikings. Right, second Jaguars.
Then you got the Niners, your Patriots, your Patriots, your Patriots, Chris. Right, and then you're looking at only three other teams. Who have held teams on average less than twenty points per game? The Chiefs, the Bears, and this team that's going into New England this weekend. I think the Jets' defense gives them a really great chance this weekend.
Oh, look at you! I don't know, David Bailey, defensive rookie of the year odds. Nobody better than him. You know what I'm saying? Pretty high.
This defense, this defense has been balling out. Are there eleven of him on the field? And who's the who's the quarterback that constantly has trouble with keeping the football in in the right hands? Just saying, the Jets defense might give him a chance. What do you think?
Yeah, sure. Can't believe we're backing up the Jets in this case. I don't know why. Why would you be so surprised? I mean, the Jets and the Rams are both two and three so far.
I knew it was coming.
Okay, and you like, oh, the Jets are so frustrating to watch. They are, yeah, they are. But but what what makes you say that they're going to change it after the wait? The past just blew blew about forty five seventeen.
So what makes I'm going to give. I'm going to answer your question with a question.
Well, that's not nice. No, no, no, no, no! I'm going to answer your question with a question because Bob Costas is is waiting. We got to take a break. He'll join us.
In terms of my parenting and allowing you to be who you are, be in touch with you, Cooper. Deep down, your heart, your soul. What ranks higher than me saying, "You don't have to be a Jet fan." What's the greatest thing I've done for you? Is basically what I'm asking you. What do you think?
I can't like I can't really think about it. But that's what you always say. I mean, that there's mom's side of the family in Boston that would have been like, "Why are you a Jets fan?" And then, like, like Massachusetts, even though you're from New York, Massachusetts side of the family is probably the bigger side of the sports family.
Okay, okay. And I, I think it was very kind of you to let me. Yeah, that's all I'm looking for. Because your uncle Jeff didn't do that for your cousin Lee, and they are less happy for it. I mean, you could have done the same thing.
I probably would have been a Jets fan if you were, if you were. Like yeah, you have to root for the Jets. I'm like, okay, fine. Ladies and gentlemen, Cooper Isaac, you're part of High Register. We just laid a lot bare for everybody here.
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We don't see any of them. It's the last day of shooting, but they need our scenes to tie the whole thing together because we come in and out with our mock play-by-play.
So this is essential.
So after the first three hours, they break for lunch, and Al says. You know, I don't think this is very good. And I say, and I say, well, at least it's a decent payday. And he goes, "What? What are you getting?" I say, "What are you getting?" So we decide we'll flip a coin, and whoever loses has to reveal.
So I lose the flip. And I tell him what I'm getting, which is five times what he's getting.
Okay, now if you know Al, and we both do. We don't need to throw a charity banquet for Al Michaels.
However, he's among the most competitive people on the planet.
So he picks up the phone right there in the trailer and he calls his agent and he says, "You get me what Costas is getting, or I walk." Right now, the Zucker brothers are so informed. They say, "Hey, he signed it. We got it right here. He signed it." We're not budging. Al says, "Fine, I'm walking." Now they've got no film if he walks.
Everything they shot in the first three hours is useless.
So they relent. But not only that, he gets an extra ten grand as his version of punitive damages.
So he he's now getting twenty percent more than me.
So that's the story. Oh my God, I'm crying. I'm crying. The backstory of basketball is not what I thought I would get to start our conversation, Bob. And then, and then on top of it, Rich, yes, sir.
On top of it, okay, yeah. My my infamous line, which I now view as humorous in retrospect, is part of the trailer.
Okay, so and Al has some unbelievable lines that would never fly today. Al has the I say hard to believe that only a month ago the Bears, the Milwaukee Bears, were in fifth place, and his line is yes, and only a few months ago these cheerleaders were in the fifth grade.
Okay, now today, today he's getting the Shane Gillis treatment, which Shane is getting right now, right, whether he deserves it or not. But then in nineteen ninety eight, no problem. But at the same time, that basketball came. Out Saving Private Ryan, which barely eaked past us for the Academy Award. Saving Private Ryan is in theaters, so I go to a theater in St.
Louis and sit down. And the film's about to start, but they're running the trailers and the line. You're excited, boom.
Okay, that line. Yes. Play.
Okay, and from the back of the darkened theater, I hear one word: Bob. Because the guy had seen me at the box office, had seen me come in. That was that was that was your initial basketball review in real time. The Rotten Tomato, right there. Yeah, my God.
Yes. However, my son now forty was twelve then. Yes. He and his friends thought it was a masterpiece, and they could not get enough of it. The demo.
Bob Costas here on the Rich Eisen. Fantastic. You know, and while we're strolling down Memory Lane, before we get to, I guess, the the the matter of of what. Happens after this season with baseball. Today is the 38th anniversary of the Bob of the of the Kirk Gibson home run, Bob.
Yes, at thirty, and you were in the dugout for that, correct? Yeah. Would you mind telling that story before? I still say that it is the most dramatic and theatrical baseball moment I have ever personally witnessed, as in being at the ballpark or at the arena, as the case may be.
So, the greatest of the great, Vin Scully, is calling the game. Jack Buck also has a memorable call on radio, and I come on the air as the pregame host, and the first thing I say is. First item of business: Kirk Gibson will not play tonight. Multiple injuries won't even suit up. Won't be on the field for the national anthem.
Now, remember, Gibson becomes the MVP of the season. He's the Dodgers' main guy, and he's sitting in the clubhouse in his skivvies.
Now, I go down around the seventh or eighth inning, and I'm in the corner of the Dodger dugout. I'm going to jump on the field and interview somebody when the game is over.
So they go to the bottom of the ninth. They're down four-three. In comes Dennis Eckersley. Almost untouchable at that time. About an inning before, and this is what was so great about this, both from NBC standpoint and Vin Scully's perfect marriage of the truck and the booth.
It was the last World Series that Harry Coyle ever directed, who practically invented how baseball is directed on TV, going back to the first World Series in the 1940s. And throughout the game, they're setting the whole thing up. Not that they anticipate he's going to be there, but they pan the dugout, and Vin is. No, Kirk Gibson. They're without their main guy.
Okay, so now Gibson hears this late in the game, and by his own testimony, says, "Screw this!" jumps up, puts on his uniform.
Now I'm in the corner of the dugout, and I hear thwack, thwack.
So I walk down the hallway, and there's a batting cage there, and a guy is placing baseballs on a tee, and Kirk is taking swings.
So I get on the IFB to Mike Weissman in the truck, and I say, "I don't know what's going on here, but he's taking swings." So now they begin to anticipate it, but they're taking shots of the dugout. It's still not there. In the top of the ninth, he shows up. He's sitting there, and the supposition is, well, he's just there to support his teammates. Lasorda sends Dave Anderson into the on deck circle.
While Mike Davis is at the plate, it's a decoy. If Davis reaches, Lasorda playing his gut is going to send Gibson up. Eckersley hardly ever walked anybody, but I think he had in his mind the Mike Davis who has his teammate in Oakland hit twenty-seven home runs a year or two before, so he was careful with him. Anderson in the on-deck circle, he walks him. Davis goes to first, and here comes Gibson.
Now, no matter how this plays out, it's incredibly dramatic. But what's important here is it's not just Vin's call of the home run; it's the way the whole thing has been framed with the anticipation and the way the shots are matched. Vin's incomparable descriptions and framing, and he says, "Look who's coming up!" And then he hobbles into the batter's box. The count goes to three and two. He's had a few feeble swings.
He hit a little ground ball that trickled foul, and he could barely get up the first base line.
So. Anyway, this it plays out until a three-two count, and then Gibson somehow, almost flat-footed, all arms, hits the ball into the pavilion in right field. Yeah, there's there's the shot right there. And he later recalled that the scouting report had said that if the count goes to three and two, Eckersley will throw you a backdoor slider.
So Gibson called time out when the count went to three and two, stepped out, and he was gathering himself, expecting the backdoor slider, and that's what he. God, and that's what he hit out of the park.
Now I know this is a long story, but you asked for it. Keep going. My contribution to this. By the way, Lasorda is marching up and down the dugout, and he sees me in the corner of the dugout, and he's like, "See that." There's what's bleeping Costas doing here? Even bleeping NBC gives us no chance.
They think the bleeping game is bleeping over right now. I know he's not mad. That's just Tommy. That's what he does, right?
Okay, like the players are trying to make furtive eye contact with me and like snickering and laughing because they know he's just doing all this sort of thing.
Okay, now this is over. It's just incredible, and Scully has the perfect postscript in a year that has been so improbable. The impossible has happened.
Now, when the game ends, and unlike most Los Angeles crowds, people stayed around because they just wanted to savor it as long as they could. Yeah. And so I say to David Neal, who's the pregame producer, this is my sole contribution. That reminded me of Robert Redford's at bat as Roy Hobbs in The Natural.
Now, David. Takes that little hint, and he goes to NBC studios in Burbank, and things weren't digital then. This is much a much greater task, and he works into the wee hours of the morning, intercutting Redford's at bat with Gibson's, along with Randy Newman's soundtrack. And it was eerie how their actions mirrored each other. Gibson wasn't bleeding from a bullet wound, but he was a left-handed batter.
They both kind of mirrored each other, and even to the point where Wilford. Brimley, as the manager of the New York Knights, jumps up in exultation.
So does Tommy Lasorda, and they each get just far enough off the ground to maybe slip a lineup card beneath their their cleats. And the whole thing plays out so beautifully, and that's the way we come on the air for Game Two. And all I said was "Echoes of a Miracle," and then David Neal's television masterpiece played out. And Kirk Gibson says to this day, the way he remembers the biggest moment of his life is half what it felt like in the moment facing Eckersley, and half the way Vin Scully described it. Harry Coyle directed it in real time, and David Neal.
Mythologized it the next night, so that's that's how I remember that moment thirty eight years ago today, man. Wow, that was amazing. Honestly, you had to said hello, and all throughout, Bob, that was and now you have to say goodbye before we talk about things. No, no, no, no, we've got some time. No, but okay, cool.
But honestly, you know, obviously, the Dodgers are going to need some of that magic, and and and is it me? You know, the baseball gods wink at you. Where the first championship for the Roberts. Dodgers infused with the conversation of why a manager took Blake Snell out.
Now today we're talking about why Roberts left Blake Snell in, and now they're down 0-3. And the last team to come out of such a hole in an LCS was sparked by Dave Roberts' stolen base for the Red Sox against the Yankees, and that's all infused on this night of a 38-year anniversary. The Dodgers, kind of, I mean. Why, in your estimation, do you feel the Brewers are are up three zero and potentially even writ large an indication of the way baseball gets played these days? Because they have been baseball's best team this year.
They won a hundred and three games. They're an incredibly resourceful team. There's a stat that you don't often see, but you're seeing it more and more now: the number of errors made against a team. Errors are not always just a coincidental thing. Oh, we happen to be playing these guys when this guy booted one.
Sometimes it's the way you play and how much pressure you put on a defense that increases that total. And teams like the Rays and Brewers have a high number of errors made by the other team in their games. They'll alertly take the extra base. They run everything out. They'll steal a base.
They'll drop down a bunt. But as you saw last night, they hit. Three home runs, Bowers and Mitchell back to back was the backbreaker for the Dodgers. You know, Snell threw eleven pitches, I think, to Bowers. He had been pitching very, very well until then, and then Bowers homers.
And some people think that at that point, Roberts should have taken Snell out. But Mitchell is also a left-handed batter who had only gone deep this year one time against a left-handed pitcher. That became the second time. The Brewers will beat you in a variety of ways. They're very confident, and even though Uribe last night was touched for the Will Smith two-run double, that was very nearly a grand slam.
Apart from that, their bullpen has been so great throughout the season and throughout this postseason. And now, if the Dodgers can get by them tonight with Tyler Glass now, and the Brewers are going to go with a bullpen game, the Brewers have Misurashki if they want to use him and not save him for a game six that may not happen. It's Misurashki against. And Scoubov again in Game Five.
Now, if I am Dave Roberts, this is easy to predict. He's got to tell his team tonight before the game. You know, I was on a team that was down three zero. That was a team that hadn't won the World Series in eighty six years. We're the two time defending champions.
All we need is to win one. Then we got Scooble tomorrow night to get us to Milwaukee, and if we get back to Milwaukee, they're the ones who are sweating. You know that's got to be basically his pitch. And by the way, who's who's better equipped to give such a pitch as you pointed out, right? And then you know, lastly.
Again, perfect guy to ask this because we've been getting phone calls from our our listeners and viewers, Bob, about the state of play in Major League Baseball and what's to come with a negotiation in what could be a lockout or everyone is thinks is a short fire lockout. Right now, the Guardians have taken a one nothing lead on on the on the Rays in the second inning of Game three of that series between two teams that are in the. Bottom five of payroll, and the Brewers are on the precipice of eliminating the. Rich Dodgers, with their nineteenth richest payroll in Major League Baseball, does any of this change what's to come at the negotiating table in your mind, Bob? It does in the court of public opinion, and I've been saying this since August.
But now, as it becomes clearer, as you reduce to four teams, you're hearing it more and more. If the Yankees had met the Dodgers, let's say in the World Series, in the court of public opinion, that boosts the own. Argument that things are out of whack, but if the Rays or Guardians meet the Brewers, the Players Association will lean into that and say, "Hey." What's the problem? Three of the four semifinal teams were low payroll teams. Milwaukee's in the thirtieth in terms of market size, the thirtieth market out of thirty.
And oh, by the way, the Yankees have only been to the World Series once since two thousand nine, and the Mets finished last. I think they finished last. In any case, it was a bad year. They finished last, or somewhere close to it, with their huge payroll.
So, what's the problem?
Now, these are only court of public opinion arguments because when they sit down. And get down to brass tacks at the bargaining table, then they'll all make their points.
Well, I mean, in that regard too, though. I mean, the owners who are ready to shut this thing down to get the cap that they're insisting upon, why can't they also look at the the say the Guardians and the Brewers or the Rays owner and say, "Where's the money that we're giving you?" Where's that going? Your your back pocket, because I know that we've got you know large contracts locally for our television stations and things like that. But you're seeing it on the field for us, like for you guys. Where's that money that we're giving you going?
While you're beating us on the field, you know, like the answer to that is salary floor. No salary cap, right? Without a salary floor, and let me just scratch this itch, please. I was on with you one time of I don't some point in August, and at that point, I had only time to make the point that the way things were going, it actually works against the owner's argument because two thirds of the teams were within three games of a playoff spot, et cetera, et cetera. I was only stating one side of the argument.
Then the next time I was on with you, I stated the owner's side of the argument.
Somewhere, I'm not saying it's going to be in the middle, but somewhere between the two poles is where they're going to come together, and. My only thought regarding the players' associations' position is this should no longer be a holy war; it should be a hard-nosed negotiation. You know, and there are still some fans who look at it this way. The owners are always the oppressors, and the players are always the oppressed. But the owners have put together what, in my view, is the most comprehensive and thoughtful offer they've ever put out there.
It isn't just Salary floor to accompany the salary cap. It's a guaranteed fifty percent of all revenues to the players. All you know, not that not the equity that you have in owning a team, but all the revenues. It's Sharing all their media rights, and this is huge. You know that works for the NFL because all the media rights that matter are network television rights.
But in baseball, they're they're vastly different from market to market. But in their proposal, the Dodgers and Yankees and Red Sox and Cubs go go into the same pot as the Reds and the Royals and the Brewers, and then it's divided up one thirtieth for each. They're also talking about eliminating blackouts because people are very Very confused. Like yesterday's game was on FS1. At first, I didn't even know where it was.
So they're very confused about where all this stuff is.
Now that's not a blackout. It's just moved from Big Fox to FS1. But you get my point. Yep. You know, somebody, a Yankee fan goes, "Is is the game on Apple tonight?" No, I know.
There's like five different. There's five different spots potentially. Yeah. Right. So they're gonna then they're gonna pledge to not put stuff behind paywalls.
I guess that's part of it. But also, there's this. There's no question. They're going to raise the minimum salary. I'm making the figures up.
Let's say it goes from eight hundred thousand to a million, but with graduated increases before you become arbitration eligible.
So, if you're second year guy again, a hypothetical figure, maybe it's one point two million, and then it's one point four million, one point five million. They might also Lower the threshold for free agency from six years to five. They might improve pension benefits and make guys eligible for the full thing earlier than they are now. And just as important, they absolutely want to expand from thirty to thirty-two. But they're not going to do it unless they get a collective bargaining agreement that is at least satisfactory.
Now, what does that mean to the rank and file? We used to talk about 25 and then 26 man rosters or 40 man rosters. But the way players go up and down now, and how quickly guys get put on the injured list, you're really talking about about 50 jobs that are either at the major league level at some point during the season or on the cusp. But AAA, you expand by two more teams. That's between 80 and 100 new jobs.
What all this is getting. Is an appeal which is perfectly legitimate. It's a negotiation. It's an appeal to the rank and file over the elite at the very top of the salary scale. And if a lockout happens, as it almost certainly will, but that doesn't mean you lose any regular season games.
But if it goes into the regular season, deep into the regular season, that's when the rank and file guys start to get a little bit jittery. You're a guy who, if you're the average guy, maybe only have a three. Three or four year major league career. Maybe you make low seven figures, but not enough to set you up for life. If you're done with that before you're 30 years old, hey, I need this paycheck.
It's it's going away. These are legitimate negotiating tactics, just as whatever the players insist upon is legitimate if they want that to be their position. Bob, you're the man. Great to see you. I hope we'll see you later on in the in the fall when you come back out here.
Get you in here in person. I'd love it absolutely.
Sorry for chewing up so much of your time. You have not, sir. It was delightful as always. Thank you. That's Bob Costas, everybody, right here on the Bob Ison show.
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So my apologies that sometimes if you might be listening around. Confused, especially since I do believe that just happened with Bob. And the first words our radio audience heard him say were "Yasmin, belief." I do believe that just happened. I was such a fan, okay? Because he was telling a story about basketball that I had no intention of asking him about.
But he's the one that mentioned knowing Kevin Pollock was coming on in hour three. That he thought that there was a time where Kevin and Al Michaels looked like each other, right? And I said, "Was that you know?" He said, "In the early nineties." And I am like, "Is that it's post Few Good Men and right around Grumpy Old Men, which, as you know, was the sequel to Grumpy Old Men." Yeah. At which point, he made a grumpy joke about Al, and I am like, "No, if I mentioned a movie with Al, it would be basketball." And then off he went, and told one of the greatest stories Bob's told ever, ever on this program, and he's been on. Probably two dozen times in the dozen years we've been on the air, so things are sometimes off the rails, out of our control, and yet so beautiful at the same time.
So Kevin Pollock's coming up is what I'm saying in support of Tulsa King. But coming up next is Jalen Warren, whose story, by the way, how he got to the NFL is amazing, and what he's doing with his opportunity as the lead back in Pittsburgh is amazing. And he's he's the reigning offensive player of the week. Last Steeler to do that was Ben Roethlisberger in 2020.
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