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October 9, 2026 2:43 pm

WWE Superstar Seth Rollins joins Rich in-studio to promote this weekend’s ‘Money in the Bank’ PLE featuring his wife Becky Lynch, says why he, a die-hard Bears fan, has full confidence heading into the team’s Week 5 NFC North showdown with the Green Bay Packers, reveals the passing of Chicago coaching legend Mike Ditka hits close to home, and explains why there was a silver lining to him getting chopped this week in the RES fantasy football Guillotine league.   In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on the NFC East and South, Giants QB Jameis Winston, Commanders QB Jayden Daniels, the 49ers vs Seahawks, Bears vs Packers, the Denver Broncos, Houston Texans, Atlanta Falcons, Baltimore Ravens and more.    Rich and the guys react to the Guardians forcing a decisive Game 5 in their ALDS series with the White Sox thanks to the heroics from the unsung Jose Ramirez. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Lucky Irving, fire the cannons again. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah. Coming up, WWE superstar Seth Rollins, two-time Academy Award winner Michael Douglas, and now it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two, the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.

We had hour number one with Daniel Jeremiah. Hour number three, Michael Douglas, the actor, Academy Award winner, now author, is going to be coming by in studio to hang out with us, talk about his new book. We got a great celebrity true or false all teed up. Last time we saw Money in the Bank go down, the man brought the case. This time around, he's bringing the coffee, gentlemen.

WWE superstar and diehard Bears fan, Seth Rollins, back here on the program. Seth, how are you guys? How's everybody doing, man? Coffee in the bank. We got coffee in the bank.

I came bearing gifts. Yeah, you know, I've been talking about ammo with you for a while now, and I delivered. I came. There you go. Four flavors for you guys.

This is the business you and Becky are running, right? That's it. We're trying to get our feet in the coffee game, man. It's it's I mean it's look it's a passion project we love coffee we love great coffee so we we we got our own and there's there's we have six flavors I brought you four of them okay um I can see the the magenta spice cake spice cake that's of the four that's my favorite right there you like what does it taste like spicy cake so it has notes notes flavor notes that now this okay I'm sorry I mean guys guys. Seth Rollins just told me his coffee has notes.

It has notes. That is really highfalutin.

Well, because the way we describe the flavors, we have spice cake. What are the other three?

Okay, here we go. Black Forest is next to spice cake. Above Black Forest in the green box, we have candy apple. Candy apple, and this one. Morning bun, morning bun.

Is that named after your hairstyle? There you go. That's right. That's right. It's a morning, and I'm.

Is that the morning bun? This is my morning bun. That is that that that probably tastes better than this looks, likely. Um, but but people get confused because they see the flavors and they're like, oh, it must be like infused with the flavor. That's not the case.

They're just roasted coffee beans with notes. It's just notes, flavor notes.

So when you when you Sip these coffees. You'll have that in mind. The morning bun, the the spice cake, the candy apple. It might conjure. It might conjure up something completely different for you.

Everybody's got a different palate. Yes, sir. But for us, that's what we came up with. I dig the packaging. Oh, thank you.

The the opening process is quite cool. I think you'll enjoy it.

Okay, let me. Oh, you're going to get. I'm going to open up the candy apple here. Yeah, we there's some. Oh, so there's bands.

Bands. Is that for your morning bun?

Well, those. It kind of was meant to resemble a little bit of a wrestling. Ring! Oh yeah, I did that, man. The square, the ring.

Okay, you get the little little hearts and the notches there, right?

Now comes the okay.

Now I I got it. I got it. Don't worry. Very nice. Look at the packaging.

Look at that. There you go. Oh well.

Now inside you got that. You see ammo. Green Bay Packer inspired colors on that. Oh, that. Oh, and then the bag comes out like this.

Green and dude. Yeah, this is Packer colors. That one is Oregon Duck more. Let's there you go. Yeah, it's more Oregon Duck.

There's no mustard going on there. We're we're more neon yellow. Dude. Oregon Ducks. Great.

How can people get this stuff? Enjoyamo. dot com, our website. Way it smells great. You could smell it through the bag.

Smelled in the bag. Notes, man. Special. It's a great coffee. We wouldn't put out a subpar product.

I promise you, it's high quality, well roasted, expertly crafted coffee. And I just again, the packaging is it's next level. And yes, all right, we did a great job with that too. I'll pat us on the back here. You know what I'm saying?

This is. I'll give myself a little very horrible. Very cool. Congrats. We did good on that.

I'm really proud of it. All right, it's Packer Week, dude. It's big week. Shout out, by the way, big week. And you know what?

I'm not even nervous, Rich. I'm not even nervous. The Bears are going into Lambeau Field, yes, sir, with a backup quarterback as the favorites for the first time in. Twenty years or something like that. I'm so unnervous about this game.

Not saying we're going to guarantee a victory, but like if Chicago competes and does well, I think we're going to win. But if they compete and do well, and they don't just get blown out, it's not even like it's okay. We lost the but it's our backup quarterback. It's Bajin. It's I.

I just have so much faith in Ben Johnson and this offense to figure it out. Defense has been playing better the last couple weeks. It's going to be different on the road. But still, I'm. I'm.

I feel so great about this game, and watching the Green Bay Packers fans struggle through the stages of grief early in the season has been, ah, ah. What what stages of grief have you witnessed?

Well, denial, okay. First of all, right? They they can't admit that their team is just bad. They have a bad football team. They don't know what that looks like.

They don't know how to feel about it.

So they're in denial, right? They're bargaining. Oh, if we just get this offensive lineman, or we just trade for this person, or if somebody comes back. They're bargaining. They're trying to figure it all out, right?

They haven't. They haven't reached the state of acceptance yet. That's that's going to be the good.

Well, you say you're four quarters away from delivering that. I would say if if they were close last week. Right, if that undrafted rookie from Tampa who had a hell of a night last night, indeed, T.J. had a hell of a night last night. If that would have been Green Bay instead of Dallas, they would have reached acceptance.

Have you reached acceptance yet, T.J.? Or are you still where are you at in the stage? I mean, we're we're gonna win the Super Bowl.

Okay, yeah, he's still in denial. All right, got it. He's very much in denial. Yeah, very much. Yes, the Bears having.

House money is what you are saying going into Lambeau Field. I feel very good about it. Yeah, I feel I feel very good. I think the season started off rocky after the second week. Think there was a lot of, but I mean, you've seen the ship get righted.

Ben Johnson was like, no, no, no, planting his flag. We're going to win football games. I don't care who's behind center. We're going to get it done. Our defense is going to step up.

Defense has looked a lot better than I expected it to this early in the season. The rookies have been good. D'Amien's been fantastic. Muhammad's been fantastic. I think.

TJ Edwards finally getting in his groove. He looked a little rough, but now good. Devin Bush looking good. Pass rush is better than I expected to.

So I'm I'm optimistic, very optimistic. And this will be the first Chicago Bears game played in the passing of Mike Ditka as well. Yes, passed away today on this Friday at the age of 86. Did you ever meet him? I never met Coach.

I do think, in a roundabout way, he actually had quite a big influence on my life. No kidding. Yeah.

Well, he was like my grandfather's idol. Like my grandfather loved Ditka, fashioned his mustache after him. Like, kind of had the slick back hair. Like, like you. You could have thought he was a Mexican Mike Ditka, Richard Lopez.

My my grandfather loved them in Iowa. In Iowa, he's you know he's the reason I'm a Bears fan. He was first like of our generation to, or to his generation to like this is our team, this is our squad. Passed it down to his kids, who passed it down to me, and so you know he modeled himself after after Coach Ditka, like he was that like he. That was that was his idol.

So like his personality kind of mirrored what I saw from Mike Dick on TV over the years, and and then obviously passed that down to my dad, who you know gave me some.

So in some way, I think my upbringing was heavily influenced by Coach Dick. And the cigar chomping, his his. You know, as you said, persona, attitude, the way that it exuded confidence and accountability, and that that defense, that defense, one of the all-time great defenses, which is kind of amazing. He's the first tight end in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, so his area of expertise was on the other side of the football. Yeah, and I mean, you look at what he was.

As a tight end, right, pioneered the position in a in a way that it hadn't been played before, and now you look at the modern tight ends, a lot of them kind of owe that their legacy to Ditka, sort of being the first to be this pass catching, dynamic tight end. Man, him and Buddy Ryan, what what do you think the a hole factor was in that locker? You know what I mean? Like old school, all mean, tough, right? I love it.

And so, in and forevermore, Bears fans will be looking at Ditka as the template. Yeah, and Ben Johnson has a little bit. I let's let's be kind and call it an edge. Yeah, but the same sort of coming into this Packers week, you know. He he was cursing out the Packers after beating them in the in in in the wildcard game in the locker room that that that got picked up by NFL Films cameras.

Love it. This week he's like, you know what week it is. You know what week it is, right? Like he's it's the red meat for fans like you. Similar to what Ditka was throwing.

It's just it's so nice to have. It really is. You know you you you've seen all the. Kind of pictures and memes of the last Bears coach Eberflus sitting with Lafleur on the sideline of a basketball game, chumming it up, and and that was just one of those that we were in acceptance as we were in the grieving state of Bears fandom. We've accepted.

That our team was just—we were never going to win. We were never going to be great. Then you have this new guy come in here, this Ben Johnson, who yeah, he's like—he's not old school, but he is in his attitude and his approach. And like, I love that about him. And I think it's just—it's there's so many coaches who, you know, they don't—they—they're—they're more Matt Eberflus's when it comes to rivalries than there are Ben Johnsons, you know.

And I think like Matt Lafleur has been reluctantly pulled into this. Like rivalry situation, you know, it wasn't anything that he was. He's a very gracious guy. He's a he's a you know kind of gregarious and a nice guy and sort of outgoing. And and Ben Johnson has just pulled him into this rivalry.

Like, no, we are going to duke this out every time. We are not going to be friends. And I love that. I love that for the sport. I love that for the game.

You know, kumbaya in the off season, but when it's when it's Sunday and this Sunday in Lambeau, it's a big game. I'm excited. To see it, I love Ben Johnson's attitude towards it. Realize Ivor Fluson and Lafleur were in the off season when they went to a basketball game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, like the kumbaya in a sense, not full kumbaya. Yeah, just the buy. You know, buy off, right? Exactly. WWE Money in the Bank streaming in the United States exclusively right here on the ESPN app, where some people might be taking in this show.

Coming up on Saturday. At the Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, Louisiana, New Orleans.

Now you are not taking part in this. Yeah, no, I know you don't trust anything. Did you pick up my inflection about asking you direct questions about your business? Understood. Understood.

I will. I'm really going to get myself in the hot water. I will be in New Orleans.

Okay, I'm flying down there tomorrow. What's tomorrow? City. Tomorrow morning.

Okay, I have. Pre-advertised appearance there, so I'll be there to meet some of our fans and enjoy the festivities for a little while, and then I will be on hand to watch my wife, who's competing in a triple threat match for the women's world championship. Hopefully, there she is, absolutely amazing. Hopefully, she is able to bring home some gold. We need some world championship gold in the Rollins household.

It's it's been too long.

Okay, but I will not be participating in any of the Matches. I will not be involved in the show. You will not see me on the screen. If you tune in to the ESPN app to watch Money in the Bank, I will not be there.

So, where are you going to be? What? Spectating. You're. I will be bringing it home.

I will be backstage, sitting behind a monitor, probably like this. Yeah.

How are you when you? How are you when when Becky is competing? You know, like can you can you? I'm good. Chill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm comfortable. I'm always sort of a little like. On edge, like well, just because you don't want her to get hurt, you know what I mean. Of course.

And now, luckily, she's not in these ladder matches, which you know that I would be like full on clenched. But like she's she's just in the triple threat. It'll be physical. It'll be a fight. But there's no you're not falling from ten feet off a ladder through another ladder.

There's there's there's less danger in a in a standard triple threat match. She is just coming off of like a recent injury. I don't even know if I'm supposed. Say that actually, because she hasn't been. It wasn't really made public, but she had.

She broke her back. No kidding. She didn't break her back. Her back was broken. Understood.

But but she had yeah she had a little fracture in one of her vertebrae that so she was out of action. She couldn't wrestle for six weeks or so.

So she's coming off that. She just had her first match back last Monday on Raw against Liv Morgan, and now she's back in the mix.

So I'm still a little concerned about the back, but seems like all is well.

Well, and I'm first of all glad to hear that, and I'm excited to to see her. Compete and not see you anywhere, but watching from behind the. I will not. You won't see me at all. And then again, like this is neat stuff because with Money in the Bank, it's it's a competition now, obviously.

Yes, and everybody wants to see somebody win, but it also just puts something in the mind's eye of the wrestling fan about what the future going to be when that case is in the hands of somebody as you have, you know, very. Shall I say, dramatically cashed in? I've had a couple said case. You know what I mean? Like, and that that's what's pretty cool about Money in the Bank.

I mean, it really is. It's a life changer for talent. I think when you when you get the opportunity to be in these matches, you feel like this could be. If you can find a way to win this match, this could be an opportunity to change your whole career. You look at my first win back in 2014.

That. Win the subsequent year that followed, and then my cash in at WrestleMania in 2015 is the thing that skyrocketed me really to the top of the card, where I've been fortunate to stay for the past decade or so. And I think anytime you're a talent, like I said in these matches, who is looking to take that next step, like this is the place to do it. You want to make a name for yourself. You want to have a great showing.

You want to win, and you want to be world champion to show that you are the girl or you are the guy that's going to carry. The business forward for the next however long, so it's a really exciting event. I think for our fans, it's awesome too because you look at it and you go, you start to you start to fantasy book a little bit. You start to go like, ooh, who if they win, who are they going to cash in on? You know, who's going to be the champion?

Is anybody going to cash in on Roman? Or what about you know the WWE champion? Is anybody going to get Sammy Zayn? Like, what's it going to look like going into WrestleMania?

So it's a really exciting. Time we pushed money in the bank back this year. Usually it's earlier in the summer. It's back further in the year this year.

So I'm curious to see how that all kind of plays in. But it's a really great event. I'd say akin to you know the Royal Rumble as far as who's going to win and get that shot at WrestleMania.

Well, who's going to win and how are they going to cash in? Who are they going to cash in on? It's it's it's pretty awesome. Yeah.

So you you know cashing in on Punk, you know, and actually using the case as it's great. You know, a device, a device, as as well as you know, bringing yourself, you being out there with Paul Heyman, throwing the crutches away. Obviously, I'm sitting where I'm sitting. Going, okay, I get it. And TJ, you've got a you've got a case right there.

Yeah, we got the case right here. And like Seth says, this changes careers. This changes lives. There's 77 of the time a man cashes in. They they it's successful and they win.

But this has a 100. Success rate for the women.

So, whatever woman woman climbs that ladder and gets this, they are. Guaranteed to become a world champion, and that changes. Yeah, you don't want to be unless you don't want to be the first. You know, you know, you don't want to be the first. But so far, the hundred percent, hundred percent for the ladies.

The premium live event available to fans with an ESPN unlimited plan, either directly or through a traditional pay television package, this Saturday, six p.m. Eastern time, or five p.m. locally. There in New Orleans, Louisiana. Money in the bank.

You want to comment on this matchup? I mean, I'm interested to see how that one plays. Out Roman's been on a hot run, obviously from when he won the title at WrestleMania. CM Punk all the way through Jacob Fatu, myself and him had a heck of a match at SummerSlam. He came out the victor in that, and then a couple weeks back Monday Night Raw against Penta in Mexico City, a very electric atmosphere.

I mean, there's no better big match performer than Roman Reigns.

So you look at this one, and I'm really excited to see. The real question for me is, can LA not Get him to the next level, like get himself to the next level. Can he match Roman Reigns as far as big match performances come? Because La Night, everybody knows, can talk the talk. Yeah, can he walk the walk?

That's what we want to see. When when push comes to shove, when the chips are on the table, like is he going to be able to rise to the occasion when when the bell rings? Before I send you into your Good Friday and then off to the Bayou for this event. You and TJ have something in common other than just being diehard wrestling aficionados. What's that?

You've both been guillotined in the Rich Eisen Show Guillotine League, and not only that, but you both immediately, upon being axed, within moments of the Monday Night Football game results, axing both. You both. Immediately left the text change. Yes, there it is. Seth Rollins left the conversation at eight thirty one p.m.

Immediately, so we figured out eleven thirty p.m. Eastern, like right away. Yeah, so at least I gave a gift to everyone to announce my. You were just out. You were just out.

I I I love you all. I love everybody in this room. I don't know everybody that was in the group chat. You know that there's a lot of humans in there, and a lot of not random numbers that I didn't know. I could not wait to get out of that group chat.

There was two. It my phone was on fire. Like I don't want to come back to my phone with a hundred plus notifications. Thank you, bro. And they're all in the guillotine group chat.

I I could not wait. Like that was the. I was like, man, I I think I can do good in this league.

Okay, I'm doing all right. We were doing a good. You know, had a rough week this last week, but. The point is, I was like, "This is great. If I win, I win.

But if I lose, the silver lining is that I can escape this group chat." And I got to thank T.J. because he set the precedent. Ahead of time, he set the precedent. He said, "I'm out." You blaze the trail, so I said, "Well, you know what? If he did it, I can do it too, and nobody's going to be offended." So I love you all.

They were very offended by us leaving, Seth.

Well, I'm sorry, guys. I love you all. I understood. I can't. I can't do that.

I had a feel. I had a feeling that was the case. Where you're just like, enough is enough. No more. No more.

Also, when we were doing the group chat, I I said to Chris, "I'm like, I don't know if you should put Seth on this because I'm pretty sure he's not going to." A bunch of randos constantly texting them. My favorite part of the group chat was me trying to figure out, like, trying to use my powers of deduction to figure out who was in the team. I didn't really know, like, anybody. You know, some of the people, like, it would it would it shows you on the on the phone, like, oh, this is who you're talking to. But some of the people just have the private numbers, and I'm like, I don't know.

Yeah.

And with Rich, it could literally be anybody. You know, you don't know his clientele. You bounced on Buble, which words I never thought I would ever say before. Within three minutes, I texted you saying thanks. I hope we didn't have your text too spammed.

To which you kindly responded. My favorite part of the thread was that I had no clue who most of the people. Trying to figure it out, like right away. Trying to figure it. That's why I created a different baseball chain because everybody started chiming in on all sports.

We were talking. Yeah, that was part of the problem. Crazy. You weren't even on the chain anymore when we started talking about baseball.

So I knew it was part of the problem. I knew you already bounced. You already out. No. I could see you already tapped out.

He was done. I was done for him. Seth, eighty-seven. I put my phone down for two minutes. I pick it up.

There's eighty-seven. I don't need too bad. It's part of the job, sir. I was gone after week two. I stuck around.

I enjoy the banter, but it is definitely on mute. I don't need. You got to. I don't need those all coming in. It's anxiety, you know.

Great to see you. Best to best to Becky. Best of luck to her. Yes, we're all excited to bring her in for joining no contest, Seth. She stayed with us for two hours.

Your wife is amazing. We had the we could have done two more hours with her. She's great, isn't she? Great, and she loves you, isn't she? The best.

If you'd done two more hours with you, somebody from Connecticut would have come with a money in the bank case and hit you. Yeah, I think I don't think it went over well. We had her. It's all good. It's all good.

Time. You had a great time. She had a great time, and she's now back. She invited me to come over for coffee. That she did, and and there's a lot of coffee.

There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Ice cakes, get you some mo mo.

Okay, Seth, sugar, sugar, your cream, or you just straight up. Oh no, no, no, no, no! Just black coffee.

Okay, I'm an espresso guy, but you can do a pour over with that if you want to. Oh my God, you're so fancy! Whatever you want, drip pour over. You can do a drip. The coffee snob, Rich.

I am, I am, I am a snob. Please, no, no money in the bank, everybody. Again, exclusively in the United States on the ESPN app. Maybe some of You are watching the show on it right now, Saturday, October tenth, six Eastern Time. Check it out.

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So, what's more likely? Friday when we come back here on the Rich Eisen show. The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Return. We just showed a clip of George Kittle, the skinny-headed Hall of Fame tight end, San Francisco Forty Nineers.

Happy birthday, George! Turns thirty-two, and our gift to you is there's this great helmet coming in the mail. Back to you. Yep, thirty-two, thirty-two years old for George F and Kill. Awesome.

Hire right the first time with LinkedIn Hiring Pro. Get started by posting a free job at linkedin.com/slash eisen. Let's go to Turzo in Iowa on the WeatherTech Fan Line before we get to what's more likely. What's up there, Turzo? Hey, what's up, fellas?

Hey, Rich, I got to tell you, after you put that. Skinny helmet on your head. Yes, sir. I've had so many people come up to me this week saying that they heard or saw me on your show that I never expected was watching your show.

So I got to give you a shout out that you you run far and deep in the in the state of Iowa, my man.

Well, listen, Turzo, I'm glad that my latest humiliation made you a star. How's that sound, Turzo? I like. I was I was in court and ran into a county attorney. Did not expect her to say to me that that she heard me on your show.

So that kind of that kind of made me chuckle, and it was it was a fun it was a fun exchange. Anything else on your mind? Anything else you want to talk about? Move on. Yeah, there's there's there's something else, Rich.

Hey TJ, thanks for your Cowboys defense last night. That really, really helped me. And the Carlos Lee, so I want to say thank you for that. Terzo, he's not going to be able to respond. He left the set to record something with Seth Rollins for No Contest Wrestling, I believe, or just something along those lines.

But what that means is his empty chair—a perfect metaphor for the Cowboys' run defense. Terzo, that chair actually in the minus two burger for me. There's a minus two.

Okay. Minus two, yeah, yeah. That that that one that one's gonna that one's gonna be tough to come back from.

So, because in this league it's just so competitive. But, Rich, I am excited for this upcoming matchup against Seattle. This is gonna be a tough week. We we we need to make sure that we stay focused with what we're doing and stay consistent. Hopefully, Evans is going to be out there.

He's been a big change for us. But if we can keep Brock up and upright and throwing the ball down the field, he looks fantastic. And I think we got a great chance to go into Seattle and win this game and take a very commanding lead of the NFC West. You won it last year, and you got a lot of a lot of losses since that last visit. To Seattle to avenge, including Seattle's win in your house to wrap up the one seed for themselves and snatch it from the Forty Nineers, and obviously the playoff victory, and obviously winning the Super Bowl in their stadium.

So all that together, I can't wait for Turzo. Thanks for the call. That's Turzo in Iowa on the weather on the WeatherTech fan lines. I got you and and all the Iowans that enjoyed watching me wear that helmet for American-made floor liners and a cargo liner that laugh in the face of fall weather. Please visit WeatherTech dot com today.

All right, it's time for what's more likely now. You ready, Christopher? Let's go. All right, it's Friday. And that means it's time for the latest edition of "What's More Likely," right here on the Rich Eisen Show.

What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. All right, it's what's more likely, presented by Pillow Windows and Doors. Christopher, what do you have over there?

Hey guys, happy Friday! Good to see you, Jay Philly. Always a pleasure, man. Thanks. Hey, these two divisions faced off last night.

Went better for one than the other. NFC division more likely to get more playoff teams: the East or the South? Great question. I'm gonna go south right now. I think that's the right answer.

I am this. This may be more of an overreaction than a what's more likely. Sure, it's sort of like a what's more likely wrapped in a. It's it's sort of like a an overreaction pig in the blanket. You know what I mean?

Little mustard. You know what I mean? It's it's it's it's an overreaction wrapped in a what's more likely. But for the moment. I think two are making it, and only one might make it from the NFC East right now.

And I'll repeat this again when we do our top five list of the games I'm looking forward to seeing. How big is the Giants Commanders game now? Because if the Eagles are banged up, and we're going to watch them in London against a Jacksonville Jaguars team that has been jumping all over teams that have holes and mistakes. Fact. And if the Eagles are two and three like the Cowboys are, then the Giants could go four and one with a win in Washington.

Already two and zero in division, having already held serve against Dallas in Week One. And I know we all just put the Giants on the nice Week One win you had there, but season over because Jackson Dart is out shelf. Yeah, but they could be four and one, or the Commanders get Jaden Daniels back and beat the Giants. Keep their home field, you know, intact. They've already beaten the defending Super Bowl champs there.

Now they could beat the Giants. They'd be two and three, just like the Cowboys and the Eagles, and they'd be just a half game behind the Giants.

So I'll go, yeah, NFC South right now. The way that we're seeing the Falcons and Carolina Panthers play. What else, Chris? What's good? You read my mind because next is it more likely the Jameis experience rolls on, or Jaden Daniels gets the Commanders back in the mix?

I would say that the Jaden Daniels gets the Commanders back in the mix because the way that let's just obviously assume that his left elbow is going to hold up, right? Yeah, he practiced full all week.

Okay, he's so let's let's just say that. Then the way that he played in the fourth quarter of Week One in Philadelphia, and the way that he played in half number one in Dallas in Week Two, looked like the Commanders of a couple years ago.

So Digs was banged up, right? As well as McLaurin might not play, so there's some concern there. But Austin Eckler came back and ran the ball well. I'll I'll go Commanders, Chris. I kind of like.

It's more likely. I like them too. How about this one? More likely to be the higher number. Total points in Lions Cardinals for the longest field goal on Sunday.

Oh, I'll go points in in Lions Cardinals. I think this is going to be a fun, fun game to watch, as all Cardinals games have been all year long. I agree. And the Lions defense—you know—the defensive coordinator Kelvin Shepard had a press conference that is reverberating. Let's put it that way.

Not just locally, but nationally, people taking a look at what this defense has looked like, and the defense of it, or of himself, by the defensive coordinator is being is news. It would be good for them to go into Arizona and come up with a tighter that one third of the of the of the of the I guess endeavor for the Lions, as Shepard said that they're going to pull their one third. It would be good if the one third shows up here. But longest field goal sixty, I think. Let's just say sixty five.

I yeah, I'd go with more points. Totals fifty four and a half. It's creeping. What else? It's going to be fun.

More likely to combine for more yards and touchdowns. The duo of CMC and the birthday boy George Kittle. Or JSN and Emmanuel Wilson, who looked great last week. Oh man! Oh my gosh!

I I I'll just go with the the the Pro Bowlers. There's two of them on on one side, and there's there's only one of them on the other. Is that an indication of who you're choosing to win? No, I I I don't. I mean.

If I even had to go out and say, the way that these games play out in the regular season, at least the last time these two teams faced each other last year, and I know it was Sam Donald, just his first game as a quarterback there, maybe none of them will score. Yeah, you know, but I'll just go with McCaffrey and Kittle. What else? Halfway home, more likely to be a surprise. Four and one on Monday.

The Cleveland Browns or the Las Vegas Raiders. Man, the the Browns. Oh, TJ is returned. Good to see you. Hello.

The Browns are visiting the Jets, and the Raiders are visiting the Patriots.

So this is an easy answer. I'll take I'll take the four and one Raiders. All right, it's looking that way. Mike Vrabel announced five players already ruled out for the game, including four defensive backs. Who do you got?

Fun. Who's out? All of them. All of them. Christian Gonzalez, Carlton Davis, Mac Collins.

Is Asante Samuel walking through that door? Let's hope not. Is Ty Law walking through that door? Ty Law, I would take. Ty Law, I would take.

I'll go Raiders. They're better team. The Browns, I think. You know, they're a better team than the Jets have got to win this one. I don't care that Brees Hall and I don't know Mitchell have been ruled out of this one too.

They got they're home. They just gone on this tour of the NFC North that did not go well. You know, lost all three. Like, listen, the Jets are hopefully going to win at least an AFC North game because the NFC North they went old for three after beating the Titans in Week One. What else, Chris?

A couple of disappointing sides of the ball here. Let's talk about these guys. More likely to be the larger sum: Colston Loveland receiving yards against Packers total rushing yards. Wow, great question! I'll go Packers rushing yards.

I think they've got to commit themselves and do it. They haven't. I understand and awful what they have not done.

Someone who had that running back.

Well, where's Colston Loveland? Was a a short fire. He was second tight end off of off the board after Trey McBride. You hyped him up so much, I took him early. I hyped him up.

I took him early in Dillingham. Who hyped him up? You. You. You've been.

You were like he's a Michigan. Colson Loveland. You were big on Colson. They haven't used him. I'm sure he's usable.

As it happens, don't blame him. You got to blame you. Hate the game. Hate the game. Not the players.

He's got eleven catches in four games. I picked him third. What else, Chris? That's preposterous. What else?

Third round. More likely, coach taking back play calling to have a more impressive Sunday. Sean Payton or Demeco Ryan's? I'll go this man. The way the Titans have played, unfortunately, and the way that Cam Ward has not, you know, and and and I.

I totally get what what Sala is saying, and I think he does believe it that Cam Ward is the guy of the future, and they believe in him, et cetera, and so on, and so forth. But, you know, as Daniel Jeremiah said, now we're number one. There is a reason why. There is a perfect time for D'Amico Ryan to take the the play calling back against an offense that is being quarterbacked by somebody that is still struggling, and. And Sean Payton should be able to breathe more confidence into Bo Nix just by the sound of his voice, as Daniel Jeremiah, you know, alluded to in hour one.

So I'll go Ryan's, not because I don't believe in Sean Payton, but it's an it's an easier draw for the defensive side of the ball for Houston. That's fair. What else, Chris? I'm really proud of this one. More likely, same initial quarterback.

Oh my goodness! To get their mojo back, Jalen Hurts or Justin Herbert. Oh JH, JH. Are there any other JHS? No, it just really worked out that they're both struggling.

I'll go Justin Herbert. Mojo back, yeah, baby. Yeah, babe. Jim Harbaugh? Can he also be a Jim Harbaugh?

Yeah, part of the John Harbaugh. He needs to get there.

Okay, John, I think is the mojo is there. Yeah, Jim, not so much, dude. Jalen Hurts is right side of the offensive line as he knows it is gone. The running back is dinged. The wide receiver one is dinged in New England.

Wide receiver two, that's now wide receiver one, is dinged in Philadelphia. Tight end one is dinged. You know, I mean, we have one green dot. The green dot linebacker is dinged. I mean, good lord!

And the Jaguars? Oh my goodness! I am waking up for that on NFL Network. Please tune in. My god, my god!

What else, Chris? What time you got to be in for? I don't even want to say the words and numbers. Justin Herbert, you're going with Justin. Yeah, I just what I said.

Yeah.

All right, last one. Future Hall of Fame running. This is gonna be a fun game. Sunday night football. More likely, future Hall of Fame running back.

You're putting Bijan in the hall. Are you doing that right now? With this, did you really just say these words over Frank Gore? This guy, Bijan, this guy, so much better than Frank Gore. Frank Gore, come on!

Excuse me, sir. Bijan is so much better than Frank Gore. I see that ring on your left hand. You're really that deep in the tank. You're that deep in the tank to call Bijan a.

I called Derrick Henry a Hall of Fame rusher when he had eight thousand yards or seven thousand yards, and you're like, "Get out of here." I don't recall.

So you're already doing that for Bijan?

Well, the writing's on the wall. Look, I am I am calling my shot. Bijan Robinson will make the Hall of Fame. I agree with you. He's going to just stay healthy.

Okay, right.

Okay, it's easy. Just don't get hurt playing football. The reason why that you're losing. Robinson has more memorable moments this year in four games than Frank Gore in his entire career. The pushback, the pushback you gave me when I called Derek Henry a Hall of Fame running back.

Call it like both of you, you both of you. It was you two, sir. You two. OFA, also. I'll remember this.

Bijan, I'll take Bijan. After all of that, yes, yes. After all of that. But by the way, is he going? Bichon makes a hall.

Is he going to the hall? I'm not saying it. Just say it. Sure. Yeah.

You're putting. I mean, he's on. He's on a path. He's on a track. I can't believe you think exactly what you said about Derrick Henry.

No, I didn't. On a path. I said he was in. No, no, no, no. You said he was on a path.

So you don't think? Here's the headline: Rich Eisen doesn't think Bichon Robinson. No, I don't say that. I say Frank Gore's a Hall of Famer too. Stop it.

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Okay, I don't think I've ever said this before, but I, I, I'm wondering if Pope Leo thinks the White Sox should start going with an opener. Ain't working out anymore. Nope, worked in Cleveland, didn't work in Chicago. I texted the group after. Jose Ramirez one yard.

Which chat is this? It's the baseball chat I created outside of the Guillotine chat. That you're back in. I didn't put you in the baseball one, but I texted the group. I'm like, is Jose Ramirez the greatest five nine player in any sport ever?

And Sarah wrote back, "What about soccer?" And I looked up Messi's five seven.

So let's. That's the end of that. But he's not five nine. I guess I guess five nine and under is what I was saying. He's this guy's thirty four.

He is he's as good as he's ever been. He is the best player in Major League Baseball that no one knows about, talks about, pays any attention to. And would you call him? Listen, you and everyone out there in Ohio that listens to us right now, certainly in the Cleveland area, want to chime in. Is he top five greatest Cleveland athlete ever?

What he's done. Ooh, Jim Brown one, LeBron two. If you want to flip up, you've got other. You know, I know Bernie Kosar's up there, whatever. But Mark Price, good lord, he's incredible.

Albert Bell, that two run shot last night, dude, he's so clutch to put them up. And obviously they they they went back down again. That game was wild. It was, but then a six run sixth put it out of reach. It was over.

There was a couple of white knuckle moments in the ninth.

Well, having to bring in Gavin Williams to close it out is not ideal for Cleveland. Hey, listen, it is going to be a Game Five. It'll be in Cleveland. Let's see what happens. Anything can happen because the road the road team has won all four games of the first five here.

Yep. And so if the White Sox advance once again, these people. Who go to these games in the South Side of Chicago? 1906 was the last time they could close out a playoff series at home, so they won't be able to close this one out at home. They just want love to see more baseball against the Rays, who I think would have, without a doubt, the advantage over both of these teams.

Um, but that was incredible. Jose Ramirez is, you're right, the best baseball player no one talks about. Yeah, he's unreal. And you're just wondering where where does the power come from from from that little guy? I don't know.

I I I understand that that sounds that sounds disrespectful. You don't mean it in a disrespectful way, so no. Only when I refer to Jose Altuve that way, that's totally disrespectful.

Well, he's amazing, though. I know that. Look, look, how tall is he? How tall is Altuve? He's five seven, right?

He's five six. Five six. Geez, so he's. I looked up some of the best five foot nine inch athletes: and Ben Hogan, okay, Joe Morgan, Joe Morgan, Tyron Matthew, the Honey Badger, Wes Welker, Steve Smith, Senior. Calvin Murphy.

I'm going to start. I'm going to start. Stop talking about height of Steve Smith, seniors. Yeah, I don't want any piece of that. Yeah, we don't need him.

We don't need that. But I mean, kudos to the Guardians. I saw. I saw. He said that to Breer.

He did. Wait, that was the Breer. Yes, sir. Breer was interviewing as they were walking off the field for NFL Network. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Forgot that. Five nine. Jose Ramirez has the Guardians one game away, like the White Sox from the ALCS. Michael Douglas in studio coming up. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast.

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