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Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. The Sean Robinson scores standing in the south end zone at Lambeau Field. Earlier on the show, Seahawks wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigbok. Coming up. Actor Malcolm McDowell.
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That's not bad.
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Fair warning to NFL players. It's not as if they need the warning. To have their heads on a swivel. As a National Football League player. Because you never know where the tackle is going to come from.
You never know when you're going to be taken down. head on his swivel. But I'm not referring to what's going down on the field in terms of their physical safety. I'm talking about what's going on with their wallets. Fair warning, NFL players, there's apparently somebody new.
In that office, I don't know if it's literally someone new, or there's a new directive, or something. Mm-hmm. But there's somebody with a keen eye of what they think is appropriate celebrations. And they're finding players. We're back again with the no-fun police that I thought we were done with.
To be quite honest, Mean Kyle Yuschek. Getting fined for Chugging In celebration of scoring for a tenth consecutive season. For the um San Francisco 49ers. Ten straight seasons. Him just like Kittle in this game.
Ten straight seasons catching a touchdown for the San Francisco 49ers. Very few have done it, only four before Kittel and Yuschak joined that group. And he's swiggin' in celebration because his nickname Being Kyle Yuschek, It's juice. What is juice?
Well Maybe some people refer to their alcohol as juice. That person might be the one that. Fines players for inappropriate celebrations. Cause they popped him. How much did they pop them?
14 grand? 14K, yeah, yeah. Yeah, change, yeah. Insane. Do we not know he does this when he scores touchdowns?
Because his nickname is the Juice, or he's Juice. Kyle, use check.
Well, now according to uh um Um George Kittle, his nickname is now Beer. Yeah. Because I guess somebody in the league office thought somebody could misconstrue that as him drink shotgunning a beer. Who? The drunk fans in the stadium?
I don't know. What are we doing? Juice. by the way, is his nickname Juice It's what I He celebrates he's drinking juice. Juice.
Um Had this to say about the fine. I don't know how else to say it. I wasn't drinking beer in my celebration. I think you guys all know my nickname is Juice. I have juice on my pads.
The stadium yells juice when I catch the ball. When I celebrate, I celebrate by drinking juice and it's been that way for years.
So I was surprised as anybody when I got a fine on this week. That's the other side of it is I don't even drink beer. I maybe drink like five times a year in the offseason and it's usually with George because he peer pressured me. That's usually a pretty good argument.
So, Kyle, I think what he should do from now on is if he scores a touchdown, because juices sometimes are served in a box, maybe you should take like the prop, like, well, both straws are wrapped in this cellophane that's tough to, you know, but what you pop it right, and you pop like, oh, but that could be construed as a very different hand gesture, and he could get double the fine. He better not pay this fine. Apparently, because he also got fined for helmet use in week one, he's having both of those fines in what he calls a double-header hearing. On Tuesday. Oh, oh, excellent.
A double dip. Absurd. By the way, Jake Ferguson did get fined for His celebration where everyone was shotgunning a beer.
Well, shocked them. This is beers, right?
Well, that's air. They're not actually drinking it.
Well, I mean, they're acting as if they're shotgunning beers. Could be a Coca-Cola, root beer. Sprite? Jamar Chase fine for the people's elbow, TJ. What?
You didn't see this? You didn't see this? Oh, man. And T. Higgins, they both got fined.
He was pulling off the arm pad, the elbow pad. Yeah, that is not what this means, I don't think. He said it's the people's elbow he was doing. Yeah. Well, you know how the rock pulls the elbow pad.
Oh, I know. That's not what I thought he was doing. He said it. Oh, we got Jamar on it? He said it.
Yeah. Jamar hit it. Superstars have to get in with the NFL PA and and fight for our money because If he's getting fine for doing a drinking gesture, a juice gesture. Pain, I mean I'm getting fine for an elbow. And doing the first down thing.
I mean, I can't really. Do much about it. I mean, we can complain. I don't even think we can tweet about it because we get fined for tweeting about it. But like it's really like players gotta keep their mouth shut and deal with it.
But We gotta have a superstar on the NFLPA to do something about it to help us along the way.
So This is This is did they think they they were doing again like 'Cause again, growing up in Staten Island, If you take your Other arm and go here and go that way.
Okay, that's the difference. That's a difference.
Okay, that's what. Is that what this person? He's holding the bottom. All I'm thinking is. Um Saying in response, if I'm If I'm uh Use check, right?
And I know Kyle, I did text Kyle today asking him why is he destroying the youth of Lance? That's right. Ruining. You know, ruining everything. And he wrote back, Yeah, I'm such a monster.
And I said, Listen. That appeal didn't work for Hannibal Lecter, so you better come up with a different one. Yeah. And so My my response would be What's going through your mind? That you think that what I'm doing is offensive to potentially something.
Like, what are you Like, what prism are you watching the celebrations through? Exactly. But what is your job here? Could possibly be offended at these. The league should get out of the policing business.
Unless it is totally like T and peel multiple pumps. Like that one I I can get. I mean, all right? You only get two. I get it.
Three is a penalty. I get you know what I mean? Like, there's a reason why that was a skit. You don't want to be a skid. Like who's in charge?
Like the the The dad from Footloose? Yeah, right. Is that what's happening now? It's Cal. The church lady, is the church lady in charge of of looking at who's Appropriate or not?
Like, what are we doing? What game were you watching? Here it is. Exactly. That's the league.
Was this the again? I'm not an NFL network employee anymore. Normally, I do get these videos from the league office. About what's good and what's not. Are they sending this out?
Is this point of emphasis? Like, why? I don't know what it is. I don't get it. I don't get it.
And clearly they don't know like Kyle Juice Use check. Mm-hmm. 10 years, he's so Kyle, again, don't do that anymore. Do the juice box thing. The just try to Yeah, Capri San couldn't quite.
Yeah, that's tough, though. Yeah. Because now it looks like you're making a different motion. You see how, again, this is it's just theater of the absurd. Absurd.
Let's go to Brett in Sioux City, Iowa. What's up, Brett? Sioux City. Oh, yeah. Hey, Rich.
Long time, first time. Appreciate you taking me on the air. You got it. Uh There's been a lot of people talking about the Packers today, and I want to offer a little bit of a different perspective on it, okay? Mm-hmm.
I think the Packers are doing Perfectly. I don't want them to change anything.
Now, for context, I am a Chicago Bears. Oh, okay.
So I speak to England. I think they should have extended micro or micro oh my god. Matt LaFleur, longer, and Brian Kutikin, longer. Look at you. Look at you.
Look at you with your one division title, right? Look at you with Ben Johnson, good, better, best. Look at you, Brett. Look at you. And you're like feeling it.
Feeling you. Oh, my goodness. Look at you. Theirs didn't perform well either. Are you a Cubs fan too, Brett?
Brett, are you a Cubs fan too? Oh, yeah. Shout out PCA 4040. Dude.
So, how about this? How good does it get? Right? When the Cubs clinch. on a day that PCA goes forty forty And then the Packers looked like that at night.
Is that a good day in your sports life, too? Get much better. I mean, the President's Cup's in Chicago. Bill Murray is drinking from the President's Cup, right? Yep.
Oh, my goodness. President's Cup's in Chicago. The Bears are feeling it, although, you know, they're feeling.
Well, the fact is they're not feeling. You know, Caleb being on IR, okay, Brett and Sioux City, Iowa's talking smack. Got you, man. And now he's only out week to week. Oh, yeah.
Man. Anyways. Um yeah, okay, they need to keep it okay. And the White Sox clinches what I've had throughout my entire life. The White Sox clinch, thanks for the call, Brett.
The White Sox clinch. And then the Packers just step on there. You know, they s Cheese curd. Yeah, huh? Cheese curd.
They step on their Ben Johnson. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the memes last night.
They caught one fan of the Packers, this lady, she was checking her neck pulse. You see that one? She's a meme today. She's breathing. Ooh.
Ooh. No, man.
Sorry to that fan. I'm calling her out because listen, nobody's memed more than a Michigan Wolverine football fan sitting in Michigan Stadium watching the teams go down the tubes. That's sad cobra. Oh, man. Oh, and and did did you see Um the celebration.
Murakawa of the White Sox, you see this one? Have you seen this one, TJ? It was this guy's incredible. Hit it. Your first clubhouse celebration rated on a scale of one to ten.
How's it going so far? 100! 100! Yeah. How many champagne bottles have you opened so far?
Absolutely. Just one. What does it mean just to be able to celebrate with this team? I watched that like 10 times last night. Wait, you only watched it 10 times last night?
That's funnier every time you see it. Oh, we have a drop. We got it.
So when we're telling the truth, we're keeping it. How many yards did Pijon have by halftime? 100! Oh my gosh. He's the drop king now.
Shout out to the interpreter. Even the Pope getting in on it.
Okay. On the Pope plane. The Pope plane. Pope Leo. Who is, you know, was at the White Sox World Series, right?
Years ago. Yeah, 05. He was asked about the White Sox making the playoffs. Things happened in Chicago. Holy Father, I'm sure you're pretty aware that last night the Chicago White Sox made the playoffs.
Two years ago, they just had the worst record in baseball's history.
Sometimes call it a miracle. Do you have anything to do with that? No comment. Hey, listen, everybody back off the Pope because we may be calling upon him when the lockout hits. We may need his help then, with all due respect to the White Sox.
True. We might need his intervention at that point in time. I just like to keep it, you know.
Well, Andre! You always have to keep it. That's great. Kudos to the reporter as well. Susie.
Has been what? On her run with the Lakers and the Angels. Oh, part of the celebrations, yeah. Yeah, I think Erstad emptied an entire bottle of Vouve Clicot. Yeah.
Whoosh! Yeah. Yeah. Like her first time there, I think she wore like a white suit in there. Bad news.
Next time it happened, she was fully prepared. Sure. Because you know how much it costs to To clean that suit? On a scale of one to ten. One hundred!
One hundred! It just gets funnier and funnier. Japanese. I'm Japanese. All right.
How many games did the White Sox lose the last two years? 100! Yeah, now look at them. You know that. Oh gosh.
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That's the voice of Malcolm McDowell, who is here in person in support of this Western Last Train of Fortune, available now in select theaters, available on digital November the 6th. How many Westerns have you been in in your career? Oh, so many. This is the only one. And this is the reason I really wanted to do it, because I'd never done a Western.
I was about to ask. As a child, I love Westerns. And of course, we all saw the Saturday morning pictures, you know, Hop Along Cassidy and Roy Rogers and all that.
So to do a Western. I think every actor really wants to do one. But, you know, uh When I started, it was revolutions and you know, big revolution in a boys' school or clockwork orange kind of thing, bangs. And so the Western sort of took a back seat for a while. They became unfashionable.
Until I think Clint did Unforgiven, which was absolutely one of the great movies ever made. I agree. Certainly one of the great Westerns, and incredible performances. and a beautiful film. And I think then You know, there's hopefully something to come back because they are moral tales.
It's not just about the West. Right. It's about very. Mm things that are going on right now.
So it's you know they're they're really um And they're wonderful to do. I mean, but really To do the first one when you're 80, crawling around in the dirt and being thrown, and I was coal cocked and on a horse.
Well, I don't ride a horse, James rode the horse, but I sat on it backwards. That's enough. There you go. Really weird to see nothing except a tail. Sure.
Especially if they're a bit windy.
Well, you don't want that. Again, Last Train to Fortune is the name of the film, available in select theaters right now. How did you meet Stanley Kubrick for the first time? How did you meet him? I called and asked to meet me.
That's it. Yeah. Simple. Yeah. Okay.
Now, I subsequently learned from his widow, Christiana. After Stanley had passed away, she told me, she goes, Do you know how you were cast? And I went, Well, no, actually, I don't. She said, Well, Stanley wanted to see your first film really badly. He'd heard all about it and he had Paramount send over the cans and to watch it.
He had a projectionist, you know. He was watching it. Apparently, I made my first entrance. He hit, he watched the scene, hit the inter- button and said relace that go from the beginning go back. He did it four times.
And then he looked at Christiana and said, We found our Alex. And which film was he watching? He was watching a great film. I mean, it won the Palme d'Or at Cannes. It's one of the top rated English films of all time.
It's a I'll say it, a masterpiece. And that was your first film. That was my first. And as Lindsey Anderson said, he directed it.
Well, Malcolm, it's all downhill from here on.
Well, if Stanley Kubrick pauses and says, we found our main Drugie here, then obviously that's a massive moment for you on that point.
Well, of course, the weird thing is that the biggest change in my life came after the first film. Because, you know, doing. Theater and scraping by and desperate to pay one's bills in a tiny apartment, you know, in London. Right. And then suddenly Boom, everyone knows you.
You know, everyone knows you, and you're being offered like a hundred thousand dollars to do the A movie, and you're like, What? Oh, God. I mean, this is great, you know, incredible. And you're from Liverpool? I'm from Liverpool.
That's where you're from.
Okay. Now, did your fame and again, I I want to dive in a little bit more into this film in a second. I'm just going to take this shot. Normally I like to ask questions I know the answer to, but I'll just say it. Your fame being from Liverpool, did you ever cross paths with the Beatles?
Oh, yes. How so?
Well, I had a girlfriend who took me to the cavern and watched. Her favorite group, the Silver Beetles. Mm-hmm. And they were great. They were the Silver Beetles.
So I went back every Friday night with her. And You know, they were all in the leathers with the DA haircuts and all the green, the burl cream, the whole deal. And then the la the one of the last times I went, they were all in suits and washed their hair and they looked like a whole different and they'd they'd whited out the silver on the drum. And it's just said Beatles. Beatles on it.
So I guess what George Martin had got a hold of him and said, this is the way we're going to. Not George Martin, no, Brian Epstein. Brian Epstein, pardon me. That's right. Brian Epstein got a hold of him.
So he had a record store around the corner, and people kept going in there and saying, Have you got this by the Beatles? And the Beatles said they'd done their 10,000 hours, you know, in Hamburg. Right. They really, and when I saw them, of course. I can't say I would go, Yeah, they're gonna be world fa you know.
But I did think, wow, this is, these guys are good. You know, they really, you have to dance to this. And they were doing. And rock, you know. L I mean, let's face it.
They had two of the greatest Pop singers of all time. as their front men. also three probably of the greatest Songwriters, said George. Absolutely, George. He still wrote George is still the title holder of the most Played Beatles song, Here Comes the Sun.
Here comes the Sun. Yeah, yeah. Right. And but there so there's this little city that that's that was kind of Shoved aside from the main. You know, people from Liverpool are very kind of different, they've got a great sense of humor.
It's like. I think maybe like being from Boston or Pittsburgh or something. It's very blue collar. It's divided. By the red side and the blue side, Everton, Liverpool, whichever, I was always red.
My father took me to the Anfield to see it. But weirdly, now we're owned by the Red Sox owners. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah, you are. And LeBron James and You even mentioned now Bezos is now getting a piece.
So that's your side, Liverpool? Yeah. That's your son. Oh, God, yeah, yeah.
Okay. They've always been since I was a boy. And you know, now my boys are all Liverpool, Liverpool, and we don't like Manchester United. We call them manure. Are you supporting him?
Instead of man, you.
Well, you heard the news, right? That they're apparently firing their manager. Oh, were they popped for cheating? Isn't that Man City got popped for cheating? Is that official?
Apparently, it is. Yeah, it is. Oh, well, we'll be looking forward then to getting a few more championships because if they're cheating, we came second to them three times and won with a one-point. We'll just take those championships. Yeah, you'll take those banners right now, sure.
Malcolm McDowell here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, so some questions about your career. We have a segment called Celebrity True or False. Oh, see if things that we've read about your career, if they are true or not. Malcolm McDowell, Celebrity True or False, hit it, please.
Celebrity, true or false. You can't handle the truth. See, that's our production bottom. I love that. Did you ever work with Jack?
No. Never. I met him a few times. You had any good stories about that?
Well, you know, he is the one who gave Mary Steenbergen, my ex-wife, who's in this film. As well. She's in the film, yes, absolutely. He's the one who cast her in her first movie.
So she was very close to Jack. And just talk to him, you know, about him in the most incredible way, which he is, is a a great guy, you know. And we'd have uh dinner occasionally. Namely, at Toby Rafaelson.
Okay. At her house, she used to have dinners in the old days. We used to go, and Jack was always there, Anne Harrison. I remember Harrison. I remember Harrison going, I don't know whether I want to do this, you know, another one of these Star Wars things.
He goes, I don't even know the director. I don't like him. And I went, well, who is it? He went, it's this guy, Irving Kirsch. And I went, Kirsch, do it.
He's a great guy. I love that guy. And it was true, I had never worked with him, but I knew him. I knew him in London.
So Harrison Ford was wondering: does he want to keep being Han Solo? And you're like, do it. Yeah, I I just on the strength of the director. I mean, that's his was his kind of um Indecision was because he didn't know the director.
So, and I. just went in and said, Hey. He's a great guy. I love stories like that. All right.
First up, true or false, Malcolm McDowell, true or false, you actually had your eyes clamped open during the re-education scene of A Clockwork Orange for Real and suffered a scratched cornea in the process. True. So that's They really did that to your eye? Those they're called lidlocks. Yes, sir.
They're used in delicate eye operations. But normally the patient is lying flat on their back, not propped up watching videos and in a straitjacket to boot.
So, what they did was anesthetize the eye. The guy who's, you can see his hand, he was a real doctor from a Moorfield Eye Hospital. And he assured me everything would be fine. But of course, what happened was when he put the lidlocks in, because I was sitting up, they would. run down my cornea without me knowing.
I couldn't feel it. Yes. And they would fall out and then we'd have to put them back in. And it was, you know, a real pain in the ass. Were you legitimately terrified?
Going through this? legitimately, like that didn't Get too much for you to act terrified? I wasn't thrilled by it. And when he showed me the picture of a patient, and I went, yeah, great. You know, not thinking.
He was meaning me to do it. And I went, Oh, I'm not doing that, Stanley, and I'm looking at it, I went, These things are in the eye. They're not even and he goes, Yo, I've got a doctor coming this afternoon. To reassure you. And so that's the way he did it.
And the doctor said, No, you won't have a problem. We use these all the time in eye operations and. But so, and it's the real doctor in the shot, and he had to keep my. I moist. With artificial tears, because if you leave it 14, 15 seconds, it could dry up and you'll lose your sight.
Do you still maybe in real life get sick to your stomach hearing Beethoven being played? Love Beethoven.
Okay, so you're good. That did not ruin. That did not.
Okay, very good. Only in the film. I have to ask the backup question, the follow-up question. Here's another one: true or false. After learning of your deep fear of reptiles, Stanley Kubrick used an actual snake in a clockwork orange to generate true fear from you.
No, it's sort of semi-true, but not really. The real story is: I had a pet snake, and I went, Oh, I'm not that keen on snakes, Stanley. He goes, Well, neither am I. Geez, you know, and it, but it was a python, it wasn't a poisonous snake.
Okay, and they put it in a drawer under my bed. And he goes, When you take your boots off, get off the bed, open the door, take the snake out, and kind of pet it, and whatever. I went, Okay.
So I did this. I took my boots off, opened the drawer, no snake. And I went, The snake's gone.
Well, the whole crew just bolted out the door. And I went, Wow, thanks, guys. And the snake had wound up in the springs of the bed. Oh, my God.
Now, that's terrifying. Yeah, that's a bit of a nightmare if you don't know it.
Okay. Wow. All right. Um True or false? You uh singing singing in the rain as you are beating everybody up in this film.
Totally improvised by you. You improvised that. That was your right. Yes. Well, I improvised it from the great Gene Kelly.
Well, but he wasn't beating people to a complete pulp. No, but he was very. He was very happy. He was in a euphoric state. He was swinging round that lamppost and splashing, splashing in in the gutter and had a smile on his face.
And so and so Uh my character was euphoric. And without even thinking, I started straight into Singin' in the rain. As an homage to him, of course. And Kubrick loved it? Kubrick absolutely loved it because we were stuck.
He hadn't turned the camera in four days. We had nothing. What do you mean? We'd sat there for four days because, you know, in the book, they break in. The film had a certain style.
It was a heightened style, which the book did not have. When you're filming it, you've got to find something that you can use to sort of propel what the book is sort of. saying and so um We couldn't just be realistic or naturalistic, come in, throw bottles through the window and beat the guy. And it just it didn't work. It wasn't clever enough.
It was just boring. It was just not going to work. And we all knew it. And I kept saying, well, This is not Stanley. We've done, we just shot the end of the movie.
And the end of the movie was great. We got it.
It just was brilliant, you know, all this going on and the transformation and and everything else. I was cured all right. And um And so He actually passed me. I was sitting on the stairs. He passed me, and he just out of the corner of his mouth said, Can you dance?
That's all he said. I was so bored. With sitting around, I jumped up and I went, Can I dance? I'm singing in the rain. Right.
Boom. On the beats. And It's brilliant because it's horrific, yes, but it's also darkly, darkly funny. It's and totally, what, disassociative? Yeah.
That you are singing. And dancing, a song that is normally surrounded with singing and dancing in the rain. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
And instead, you are raining misery on these people. Yes. Yes. And. Yeah, wow.
And so when I saw Kubrick out of my periphery vision, he was laughing so hard, he had tears. And he stuffed his handkerchief in his mouth. What is your favorite Kubrick movie outside of the one you did? Yeah. Strange love.
I wouldn't have that that's that's not usually on people's radars really yeah Well, Dr. Strange Love is what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. The funny.
Oh, yeah. Which before yours.
Okay. Yeah. It was uh two before we the rum Immediately before, which I think is a masterpiece too, 2001. Yes. But for very different reasons.
I think his technical ability of taking The, you know, science fiction story and uh putting it on a millennium jump. I mean, before Stanley, it was basically Flash Gordon with cardboard sets. Yes, sir. and there'd be no Star Wars without Stanley. There'll be none of this, you know.
But Stanley's genius was, you know, doing this. And of course. You know, what about AI having this HAL turns against? Yeah, exactly. I mean 2001 Space Odyssey t already was about technology run amok and that you couldn't control.
Don't do that, Dave. I love it. A couple more for you. Speaking of outer space, true or false, you and William Shatner were once mobbed by Star Trek fans at a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas, Nevada. Is that a true story?
He was more mobbed than I was. Oh, is that right? And. I'm very fond of Bill. I've got some funny stories about him.
You know, he's a funny character, but he is able to laugh at himself, which is saving grace. we were going sort of back corridor kitchen things and we were in the ser getting into the service elevator when fans spotted him, came running down and tried to get in the elevator and William Shatner was kicking them out of the elevator. It was such a memory to be savored. With the bottom of his foot? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get the f out of here. I'm going, good God, they're your fans. I mean it was hilarious. That said, the fans, true or false, once gave you death threats because your character killed Kirk in Star Trek.
Is that true? That is true. Yeah. On the internet, which was rather new. I didn't know anything about the internet, but my nephew.
Called me and said, Uncle Malcolm, you've got a death threat on the internet. I went, what? What moron is that? Don't they know we're actors? We just do what we're paid to do, you say.
Anyway. No, they were death threats.
So I had I had these retired police officers come with me to New York. And wait outside the hotel in the corridor and then outside the hotel. They took it really seriously. I bet. Do you have a good story from Entourage?
You want to lay on us at all when you're in your years of entourage?
Well, I I love that show. I mean, I was always butting heads with Piven. Yeah, you in real life, you're talking a ridiculous character, you know, just too full of himself by half. Brilliant in the part. But you know, um Be a little magnanimous.
The other one was uh Caruso. Those two, I got both of them. Yay. I mean, Jesus Christ. And and, you know, um David Caruso, you're friends?
Yeah, of course. Uh so I got a call from Rob Zombie who had done um you know um Those two movies with um night m uh not night m um God um Halloween Halloween, yeah. And um my mind's a went from oh good.
So um yeah, so um He said, Malcolm, would you look, I'm trying to get away from the horror thing. Would you do this T V show with me? And I went, Yeah, of course. What is it? He goes, C C S I And I went, Ah, okay.
Yeah, okay, yeah, it's a good show, right? He goes, I said, Which one? Knowing. Because of reputations, you know, go before. And he went, Miami, and my heart sank.
And I went, okay, sure.
So They only shoot for four or five days or something and I was Two days late, coming in, I was on the third day. I was playing this corrupt lawyer or something, I don't know. And Oops. Rob met me in the parking lot and he goes, Look, I want to apologize right now. This guy is an absolute I went, You are kidding.
He goes, I said, Don't worry about me, Rob, because hey, I can deal with that guy.
So the fur the first scene, I cut Swan in in a a limo, the window goes down, I have dialogue with him. He's on his phone texting. And I went, cut, stop.
Okay, move the actor off there. Can you put a piece of tape on the camera box? And could somebody just read out the dialogue? I don't need the actor. I don't want him there.
It's disruptive.
Okay, let's go. Here we go. And so he walked off in a huff. I got the shot. And then the next day I had a big scene with him.
And um So he had to come into my office and interrogate me. And Rob said, never say this to an actor. He goes, Malcolm, just be on the phone.
Okay, hello, yes. What are you wearing? No. Are you serious? I love it.
Yeah, yeah. Well, he comes in. And stands there and yeah, no what Get off the phone. I totally ignored it. No, no, no.
His camera's on me. I'm going on. And then I go, oh, get off the phone. He screams again. And he didn't exactly say it that way.
And I said, I think I've got a disgruntled customer. I said, well, I'll see you later. Quick. And he steam coming out of his ears. It was hilarious.
And they kept it in the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Malcolm McDowell telling stories. The last Train of Fortune available now in select theaters, and it will be available on digital November the 6th. And for those in the Los Angeles area from September 25th to the 27th in Gardenia. Um you're going to host a rare live appearance of a clockwork orange.
Yes. Awesome. That is going to be mustard. Yep, that's right. On September 2020.
It's pretty full. It's going to be fun. I always have fun doing that. Get in right now. Thanks for coming here.
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What's up, Nathan? Hey Rich, how's it going? What's going on? Hey, so I just want to talk about the Jets. And, you know, it breaks my heart earlier that you said the Lions are going to restore the Roar this Sunday, but.
Deep down, I know you're still cheering for the Jets. And Brockman said the other day that they're feeling a little frisky. We tied the Packers going into overtime, ran out of gas, beat the Titans pretty convincingly, which he knows is what good teams do. They beat bad teams consistently. And I think you know as well as I do that Jeff don't do that very often.
So I think it's time to get a little delusional. And you know, I know we've been playing for 2027 since 2025, but I don't know if I should be cheering for the Jets to win games right now or if I should be cheering for the Archer Dead poll by the end of the day. Man, that is the ultimate conundrum, that the Jets always, when they need the quarterback of their future, win too many games to get him. At some point, they're going to win games and somebody's going to drop to them in the draft, and it's going to hit. I just don't know if I'll be on this planet for something like that.
You know what I mean? I don't have the answer to it, Nathan, but uh. Hang in there in West Virginia, home collegiately of their current quarterback. Geno Smith, everybody. That's right.
I don't know if that's the connection. Again, I would have had more time if We didn't hear Malcolm talk about his tenure on CSI Miami. That was something. That was something. We're back to wrap this show on Disney Plus.
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