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Well, hey everybody, welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show live on Disney Plus, Carolina, on the precipice of hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup, the U.S. Is getting ready to perform in the World Cup, the NBA Finals, getting ready to. Put. Game five on the world stage on Saturday night. Lots to talk about with you today on the Rich Eisen Show.
844-204 Riches, the number to dial here on Disney Plus, the ESPN app, ESPN Radio, and SiriusXM Channel 80. We've got our first guest joining us in just less than 15 minutes' time because he's got to get his way to the San Antonio Spurs Arena in downtown San Antonio to, I don't know, I guess do whatever people who call the NBA Finals on ABC do the day before. Game five, Tim Legler is going to join us with his two cents on that whole equation. Tom Pellicero with the latest in the National Football League, and Greg Berhalter, who may just be the first human being on planet Earth to have played for the U.S. men's national team, coached the U.S.
men's national team, and now have a son playing on the U.S. men's national team. He's going to be here in studio because the U.S. men's national team takes on Paraguay tonight. Uh, in uh SoFi Stadium.
So there's all of that going down here in the Los Angeles sports area. Good to see you, Chris Brockman, fresh from Caige Brockman's kindergarten. Step up. Good to see you. Absolutely great to be here.
Good to see you guys. Hey, Jay Felly's here. Hey, what's up, Rich? You being here, is that why the red carding of two South Africans sounded so great from Mexico is because Del Tufo's work in the faders? Actually, yes.
Is that why Ian Dark sounds so lush? He did the game yesterday? I believe he did. Wow. Is that why Stu Holden it sounded like Stu Holden was in my my front yard?
Yes.
So many red cards in that game. Fine, for some good to see you over there, sir. How are you? I'm good, man. How are you guys doing?
I'm doing just fine and dandy. Friday, fine and dandy.
So This is the way we're going to start today. What do you got? I know the Stanley Cup is almost over. The Las Vegas Golden Knights have got their backs against the wall.
Well, not according to torts. And those sound bites, by the way, are fantastic. And they're queued up for your listening and viewing pleasure later on in this program. But we put a pin in that for the moment. Um The Seattle Seahawks This is the sort of thing you talk about in the middle of June, in between NBA Finals and Stanley Cup final games.
And baseball getting ready for the weekend, and the World Cup has just started just two matches in so far.
Now we're getting three a day, which is always a lot of fun in the first uh pool play rounds of the pool uh World Cup. But when the Super Bowl champions get their rings This is what we talk about. Certainly when. Uh It's a show hosted by somebody accused of Not giving the proper amount of love to the team that's receiving the race. You're not popular in the 12s, man.
That's not true. I would push back on that. I would push back on that. Really? You don't read the comments.
You know what? I did just do a power rankings of the top defenses in the National Football League. And after uh I finished With Five through two, you're like, who else is there? And I'm like, wait a minute. There's the Seattle Seahawks, and you're like, oh, so you were the one most recently on this program.
The team that you didn't have at the top of the power rankings, despite wait for it, getting the ring. Interesting. Don't put this on me, Ricky Bobby. I'm not putting anything on you. Other than the fact that I have nothing but respect for the Seattle Sun.
Oh, it, okay. I do. We had Cooper Cup on this program. I'm like, let's have Cooper. I'm having happy to have anybody from that neck of the woods on.
But um You know, the Seahawks have got some serious Microsoft dollars there behind them. While there's still... being owned by the Allen family. And um there's uh no shortage of dollars and cents in this ring right here. Cooper Cup told us that it was coming, actually, when he was on the program last week.
Jason of Beverly Hills, everybody, just up the road from us here, putting it together. And yes, you can take the top off and make it a locket. Oh, that's Tyler Lockett. You can also pop the sides, and out come the wings of Lumen Field. The arches pop out.
Wow. Yep. And it reveals the words world champions in there. The top of the ring also features the Seahawks logo, two Lombardi. I said two Lombardi trophies.
Okay. There's a piece of the football from the championship season involved in this equation as well. The logo is surrounded by 50 diamonds, which is a nod to the fact that the team won last year's Super Bowl in its 50th season. On one side, it's got the player's name, number, and the letters M-O-B. Oh, you know what that stands for?
Apparently. They're um they're um Mantra last year. Yeah, ain't the LOB. Mission over BS. Oh.
Uh but B S wasn't the the w the actual use. But that's M O B right there. And then the other side has got 12 as one on it above a Seattle skyline. Cool. Top of the ring again can be fully removed.
The interior features an authentic piece of the football from the season, along with the number 50 again to commemorate that 50th season. 17. Wins is engraved to represent the win total for the season postseason included. while the bottom of the ring features the number twelve. with twelve feathers.
Ice up, son. Ice up. In honor of the 12ths.
So, cool. There's that. They're getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. If you take a look at the rings from Super Bowl 1 through 5, I love it. Put them all together, they're not as large as the one from Super Bowl 60.
Well, I like now that they come apart. We saw the Eagles had wings. This has the stadium's wings. They just like one up on each other.
Well, the rings have now turned into transformers. Yeah. is more than meets the eye. It's a plethora of dynamic. We're going to get one to talk soon.
I don't know. Get a hologram pop out of it, like it's Star Wars. Maybe, and maybe it'll start talking smack about we're repeating. Why not? And that's the question.
that everyone's going to start talking about. When the Seattle Seahawks opened the season in a Super Bowl 60 rematch against the New England Patriots in their house. on the Wednesday of opening week. They go first, as always. We'll have a banner raise, but it's on a Wednesday.
Because the Seahawks NFC Westmates from San Francisco and Los Angeles play each other in Melbourne. Melan. on a Friday there, which is a Thursday here, and you there. And then off we go at Arizona, at Washington, home for the Chargers. Has anyone played Seattle's win-loss yet?
Maybe. I should do that. What do you think?
Well, you usually save it for your favorite team, the Chiefs. I don't have a favorite team, sir. Do you accuse me of being a passionate Cheese fan? My son accuses me of being a passionate Rams fan. Yeah.
Should I do it? You want to do it? I plan on doing it. Seattle, let's go. I'll do the Seattle Seahawks five loss game right now to talk about just how they're going to go ahead.
and perform in this regular season, I need the music. What the heck? Let's go. Here we go, Jason Feller. I think they open with a win, sir.
I think they go ahead and take care of business. That is a tall order, a night game in Seattle with a banner raise. Here we go. I know AJ Brown's in the house. We're in number one, but I think the Seattle Seahawks come up with the win.
They go to Arizona and win that. You know what they do? Perhaps better than anybody else in the National Football League, but the Seattle Seahawks, is they go. East Coast. to someone else's house.
in a one o'clock Eastern game. and go ahead and beat you. And beat you to a pulp. I don't know if that's what's gonna happen when they go visit the Washington commanders, but take a look at the last few years. Of the Seattle Seahawks.
And you know what? They do more than anybody else is they go to a spot like even Washington. I bet you there's a couple of instances of this. They come up with that win. That's all they do is win on the road on the East Coast.
Then the Chargers come to their house. I think they win that one. And then here come the San Francisco 49ers. I think they win that one. I think they start 5-0 in their title defense.
Really? Yes, I do. Chargers. I do believe, yeah, the Chargers coming into their house late window, and I think they win this. And I think they start 5-0, and everybody's feeling good.
And then it's a short week game to Denver, and I think that's their first loss of the season. And then the Chiefs come into their house. I think they win that one. And then I think the Bears come into their house on a Monday night. And I think the Bears take care of business in that one.
That's how I think they roll this year, Chris. I feel very high about the Chicago Bears. They're the same. I'm with you. The Seahawks sweep the Arizona Cardinals.
They're now five, six, seven, and two. Before going to the Raiders and winning that one, I think the San Francisco 49ers get them. I think they get him in week 12. I think that is going to be just a frenzied contest. Filled with what happened the last time the Seahawks were taking on the San Francisco 49ers in San Francisco, that final week 18 game that the Seahawks won, and then they were the one seeds, and then they beat the crap out of San Francisco in Seattle.
in the playoffs, and of course they won it in San Francisco's house. I just feel the Niners are just going to be so damn prideful in this one. It's going to be tough for the Seahawks to pull that off. Then the Dallas Cowboys go up to Seattle. I think they beat your.
Dallas Cowboys. In that one, why are you doing that? Jefferson. The Seahawks then beat the Giants, and then there's a game in Seattle, in Philadelphia: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Uh I think the Seahawks Beep.
Be Eagles. They now have 11 wins against three losses.
Now come the games against the Rams. I think they beat the Rams. In Seattle, I think they go ahead and beat Carolina in Carolina and then lose to the Rams to finish up the season.
So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, and four. Thirteen and four. In their title defense. I think that's what the Seattle Seahawks are going to do. And let me see, that would make them in division.
They split against San Francisco, they split against the Rams, and that so that'd be 4-2 with a 13-4 record. One seed? Not on thus the Rams go 14 and 3. My friend. But I think Seattle's that good defensively, and I think they're just going to be.
A sneaky good title defense team because they're not respected. to the tune of thirteen and four by a host. Like me. And it's ironic that I finished this segment twelve after the hour. Hmm.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Put them number one in your power rankings. Um I don't know if I'm gonna. How about that?
Because I think the Rams might be 14 wins or 15 wins that good. No respect. All right. 844-204-H number to dial. Guess who's chiming in from San Antonio?
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The entirety second half, though, is what they were talking about. Oh, no. Second half game. Oh, gotcha. Oh, gotcha.
Okay, yes, okay. If we're talking about the totality of that, I don't know that I even still would use the term arrogant. I think here's what happened: they hit 14 threes in the first half. It was a historic shooting performance by final standards. They've got this big lead.
They come out to start the third quarter. I kind of get in a way to start the quarter. You're still dipping your toe in that water. It's like, is it, you know, does it feel good? Because we haven't missed to that point.
They were getting whatever they wanted. They were in great flow and they continued to take those shots. The problem, I said it early in the third quarter, or maybe like mid-third quarter, after I'd seen too many of these possessions now where they're taking quick threes, that now you've got to start to change your approach. It's all about time at score at that point. And I keep referring to this as a math problem for the Knicks.
And the only way you can solve this math problem in terms of the deficit and the time on the clock. Is you're going to need help. But how do you get that help? There's two ways: quick shots by the Spurs that don't go in, and turnovers, because you need more possessions and you need more time. Even when they were taking those quick ones, I said it on the broadcast.
At this point, Mike Brown doesn't even care if these go in anymore. He needs them to take quick shots, and they continue to do it.
Now, when that lead starts to cut down and you get up into the high teens, you know, in that 20-point area, in an NBA game, we know that we've seen those deficits wiped out repeatedly, more so than ever because of the prevalence of the three-point shot. That's where the adjustment has to come. I don't necessarily blame them for immediately, like right away, changing the game because it was working and these guys are all hot and they're like, okay, let's just keep doing it. Once you, you know, you go through a little drought there, you miss four or five in a row. Absolutely, you've got to adjust.
You've got to get more balance in your offense. The guards need to be back in the paint because they were repeatedly throughout the series. Victor Wemenyama, more throw. At the rim, the way he was playing earlier in the game, earlier in, and certainly in game three, and get the balance there in your offense. And you're going to be able to basically stall this momentum that the Knicks were building.
And they didn't really do it. I don't think it was arrogance. I just don't think it was very smart the way that they were approaching it. And by the time they finally kind of started to feel it, it was too late. The Knicks then believed, and the San Antonio Spurs were starting to experience doubt.
Those two things basically came together, I would say, at about the seven or eight minute mark of the fourth quarter. OG Ananobi hit a three to cut it to 11. That was when, calling the game, I'm looking at both teams and I'm saying the Knicks now think. They can actually pull this off. The Spurs sort of looked around at each other with some uncertainty, which they hadn't played with up to that point at all in that game.
And that's when you could start to feel the crowd was going. And now it's just a matter of: can the San Antonio Spurs come up with enough decent possessions here down the stretch to be able to hold them off? And it was all up in the air at that point. What a scene. Tim Legler here for just a few more minutes as he heads off.
To the arena to interview Wembanyama and the rest of the stars of the NBA Finals for Saturday's broadcast here on the program. I just got to get your two cents on officiating. I mean, on one hand, you got the two quickest fouls any player has received in a game since 1998 on Carl Anthony Towns, and then the Knicks are in the. Penalty with seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter without the Spurs having a single foul called on them for the second straight fourth quarter. But in between all of that, the Knicks get more free throw attempts, eight more.
than the Spurs do in this game. And I lost track, Tim, of the number of times you or Richard or Mike, we're talking about I don't understand what the refs are seeing right here from the overturn of the anthic the cat foul to be called offensive. Um to to put him on the bench, the Luke Cornet. Swat away of a ball that could have been a pass, but still, like. What do you make of the officiating going into game five of these finals?
Yeah, look, I think there were some calls clearly in that game that you felt like. I don't even know that I felt in the moment that they were like 50-50 type situations. I felt a certain way. They didn't go the Knicks' way. I didn't like that first bump call right off the bat on Carl Anthony Towns on that drive by Fox.
I mean, that's the first possession. And, you know, Fox turns the corner on him and he's fairly vertical. And it's just like a bump where he just catches him a little bit. I'm just, I feel like based on the level of physicality that we have seen in the postseason that we had seen in this series, like that's kind of like tone setter for the night. And you're like, okay, then it's going to be a lot of free throws tonight if we're going to call that level of contact on the way to the rim.
And again, from night to night, you want consistency throughout the series. It's hard. These are three different officials.
So it's going to be some of it is clearly subjective on their part in a given night. They're trying to maintain consistency, not only within the course of the game, but within the course of the series. They're trying to do that, but it's a difficult thing to do because they're all different. And I thought, okay, they're going to call a little bit more tonight based on that call. Then, right after that, he gets hit with the other one.
And I think, you know, I think Richard and I both felt the same way. There was an initial clamp of the arm, but he was sort of jostling for position to catch the ball. Once he caught it and decided to go to the rim, he released, you know, and his arm came up. And Wembanyama's arm was still kind of around his body. And it was funny because it was almost like Wemby was still selling as if he was being clamped, like, but he wasn't anymore.
Like you could see in the video.
So I really thought that that was not going to be the second foul of Cardinal Anthony Townsend. And to me, it set up kind of. His night, I thought it happened to bridges the game before two early fouls, and he never got going in that game offensively.
So it's a tough way to start your night for a big man. Here's why, Rich, too. It affects your aggressiveness driving to the rim. You don't want to pick up a charge. It affects your aggressiveness as a screener.
And that's a big part of Katz's game. And now you're just like tiptoeing around on eggshells a little bit. It just affects your aggressiveness.
So I thought the Alvarado, the goaltend you're talking about, I thought that was clearly to me a shot. And, you know, so I would, that one, again, I can have my opinion. I can see it a certain way. Obviously, they have a different opinion, and some of these are reviewed, and they're getting help from Sekakis, and they're going over it. And it is what it is.
Overall, they did shoot more free throws by a wide margin in the game. But I felt like there were some really unfortunate things that went against them early in that game. And now we sit here, and I guess none of that really matters now, does it? Because of what they were able to do in the second half of that game and that incredible finish that. Is going to be, no matter how this series plays out, and it's a long way from over because of the way these games have been played, how close they are.
San Antonio's Purse could certainly come back and win three games in this series. All these games have gone down to the wire. But regardless, that is going to go down as one of those iconic moments in the history of this sport. Particularly if the Knicks are able to go on and win this championship, get this last game. For what that meant for that franchise, that moment in the finals, they're going to be showing that tip in for the open of the NBA Finals 50 years from now.
So that's how big a moment that was, how momentous, particularly when you talked about the organization and the market.
Well, you know, you might have been the only person in the building, Tim, for whom that wasn't the biggest moment they've ever witnessed in Madison Square Garden. Didn't you cut down the NIT nets for LaSalle in that building back in the 80s, Tim? Yes, but that was at the Meadowlands. That wasn't at the Madison Square Garden. That was the Meadowlands.
And that, by the way, was. the biggest moment in the history of the Meadowlands as far as basketball is concerned. Thanks, Tim. I know you got to go.
So, are Richard and Mike waiting in the car for you? Yes.
Oh, yes. And Mike Breed is not like you to be late.
So I got to hustle. Yeah. Fordham versus LaSalle right there, going at it. Take care, Tim. You be well.
Tim be. You know what? Whenever I go off to an event and Kurt's waiting in the car. Uh it's never good. With the eyes.
I never feel Kurt Warner judges me. ever. Until that moment. Is he always the first one in? What do you think?
Yeah. The number let's just say ten times out of Trips, you know, in London, Germany. Los Angeles. Nine out of ten. Denver.
The number of times I get in the car before Kirk. Oh. Out of the ten. One out of ten. That is incorrect.
Zero? That's correct. Mm. And I'm on time where I like to be sometimes I like to think I am. But, you know, and and and and I know.
Certainly if you got to go to the airport and it's like a 7A flight, you know. He's just like, is Rich awake? And then I walk in and I look him in the eye: what's up, Kurt? Hey, good morning. Good.
If I'm more than three minutes late, I apologize. I figure there's a grace period. But Breen is sort of the Kurt of this equation.
Next time Kurt's on the program, we're going to talk with him. You can ask him. We'll do. You ask him point blank. Mooch is a coach, so you know he's there 15 minutes early.
You know. Err. I always knew I had extra time. Irv is to me in this situation. Irv's on Irv time.
Irv's on Irv time. But we haven't discussed this, Chris, because you were out at Step Up. I mean Good Lord This thing was, I again, we're, I'm still talking about it. My friend group, we're still talking about everybody's craziest thing I've ever seen. I don't recall an NBA Finals game.
that echoes Quite like this one. There was the Celtics come back against the Lakers in 08. That was the last comeback until Wednesday night. Yeah, that was on the road. Uh the Knicks were at home, obviously.
Um Did Darien Fox get fouled? Did you guys talk about that? Actually, we did not talk about it. Jake Culp, Sixer fan, Rich Eisen Show, social media. Maven.
Uh he did post that on our page yesterday, and I'm like who Who approved this? Yeah, I was. I texted him. That was the first time. I texted him, like, who, where did this one come from?
And he's just like, you know, I'm just playing around with, you know, asking, you know, crowdsourcing and stuff like that. I'm like, so of all the fouls that didn't get called in this game. Or all the fouls that didn't get upgraded to a flagrant. I think the Knicks had a friendlier whistle on. This is the one you're choosing?
I got to be. This is the one you're choosing. I got to be honest, I didn't see that picture until that post one out. It never showed that on TV. They didn't show the replay.
They did not show that.
So I was like, oh, hang on. Convenient. Hang on. You know the NBA is still doing their two-minute report. Where they're going through the last two minutes of a game.
And they're CSIing it or they're law and ordering it since the office of law and orders that all these screws are. That moment was not on there. because they said Ananobi got enough ball before he hit his arm.
So, the photograph you're seeing of him connecting with the arm makes it look like it is a foul. It did. But the ball had already been dislodged. By that point in time. According to the NBA, there was a foul on st that Hart.
Should have been called on Stefan Castle, but it wasn't the last play of the game. That was another last two-minute banger. That's the one thing that they said wasn't called on the Knicks. Man, I didn't think he got any ball. No, I think, listen, I think.
I think he did. Look, the Knicks got some whack calls against them.
So I thought it was a pretty pro Knicks whistle on game four, no? Two cat fouls? The cat foul to start. The cat foul to start was, I thought, ticky-tack. But I'm like, all right, did he make contact?
This one. This one was stupid. This one, Wembunyama's arm was pinned. Do we have the second photograph of this? There's two that I think we pulled.
Okay. So this one, this one was early on as he's driving. But Towards the end when he got to the hoop, Wemba Nyama's arm could have easily been dislodged, and as a matter of fact, his hand was over Carl Anthony Townes' stomach. And I thought, okay, we're going to review this. And it's like, could have been an armpin at the top of the play, definitely wasn't an armpin throughout, and certainly wasn't at the end.
So that's kind of a soup that eats like a meal that comes out of a review saying play stands is called. And instead, it was an overturn. And those guys are overturning it knowing they're popping a second on Carl Anthony Towns.
Now The result of that shouldn't have been a complete and total unraveling by the Knicks. And what helped that unraveling was San Antonio's remarkable. It made everything. Every shooting performance. Yeah, it made everything.
Like, literally, everything was going up. I'm like, that's going to be in. Yep. That's going to be in. And by the time, and it was a total.
Complete. Barrage? that I almost got in a fetal position watching the game. I'm surprised you didn't shut it off. Oh, I didn't shut it off.
You missed yesterday's show because you were at step up. Clearly, you're not. Staying tuned to what we're talking about while you're watching Cage and his big moment with Sarah. But Susie, we were talking about Susie was beginning to say, like, do you want more wine? Like, she was.
Starting to be so important. And it's so funny. They need something. This first started out. They were what, 65% shooting early on, 80% from three.
They finished 42% from the floor. That's how bad and atrocious they were shooting midway through the third quarter and through the rest of the game. I couldn't believe that Wemba Nyama, they didn't take him out. Like he played all Um almost all Second half. He sat down for less than a minute.
But And then the fact that he's in the game. He was so unstoppable, and he is unstoppable. Was he is he will be unstoppable for decades for as long as he wants to keep playing in the NBA? They didn't feed him. Like down low.
I mean, there was no stopping him. And certainly with, you know, cat. Was Always one or two fouls Deep Into this game in trouble. And Castle fell trouble. And so, and Mitchell Robinson wasn't stopping him, and nobody was stopping him.
Why wouldn't and he's so good at shooting free throws, even though he missed those two at the end. Oh, that's kind of the which was a stunner. Pretty big stunner. It was exhausting. And I didn't get it, I didn't understand.
Why the hell they were because again, they weren't. For you saying, and again, Uh it it was a uh uh a whistle that was to the Knicks benefit. They were in the bonus. Lickety split in the fourth quarter for a second straight game before the Spurs even had one called on them.
Now, and I know you're like, so stop fouling. But the other team isn't for real? Like, come on now. It just wasn't Well, it's also the way the game played. They're playing a little more down low, a little more physical.
The Knicks were trying to shoot their way back in, so that's a lot of outside shots.
Well, also. the reason why you know But we're sitting here saying the Knicks were fouling, but the Spurs kept on shooting. Quickly and and three it it it it was a slow motion car crash for them.
Well, that's why I was joking with you guys. Did did Mitch Johnson get Wayne Kiffen after, you know? That was rough rough coaching performance by the young pup.
Well, I mean the tarmac situation j probably was Pop waiting for him. I'm curious as to what the 48-hour conversation between Pompovich and Mitch Johnson and Pompovich with the rest of this team. You know, and Legler just said, can they win three in a row? Yeah, they can. Yeah, you can make the case they've outplayed the Knicks all four games.
Well, or you can't get over. Mitch Johnson said they decided the result of all four games. That sounds like that analytically. It sure did sound like, you know, analytically, we're up three games to one, not down three games to one. But.
You know, at the end of the day, Brunson doing what he did, and OG. OG Ananobi, you take a look at the rest of this roster. And who's got a ring? Is OG finals MVP? He's certainly in the Catbird seat right now, even with Brunson having the fourth quarter of his.
playoff life. You know? He's just on fire, Brunson. In the fourth quarter, clutch points, Mr. Klutch.
But OG is in this mix, and he's the guy with the ring. Saying This is the way. Like he's been glorious and he's been something spectacular.
So he plays so hard. He's in the cat bird position, too, on that front. Also, Josh Hart better be paying for OG's meals for well. You heard the sound body. We played that yesterday of him saying that he thanked.
Did you not hear that? No. Here, can we cue that up?
Well, I'll tap dance while Hoskins and Bowie go ahead and grab that. I mean, the cope of Larry David reacting to Hart missing the light. Like his legs just gave out from underneath. It's because, again, it was the same rim that Ewing went for a finger roll down to against the Indiana Pacers. Oh, and back and back rimmed.
And guess what Hart did on the same rim? He back rimmed it.
Well, it's like he got confused of like, do I dunk it or do I lay it up? And then I'm up there and I'm like, oh, no. It just felt so bad for him at that point I don't think anybody, you know, went down granular with him, but I bet he thought to himself Is Wemby anywhere? Interesting. I don't know.
But this is what Hart had to say afterwards. This game was was crazy. Um like I said, you know, I I got a special shout out, you know, for for OG, man, because he saved me, at least for this game, uh a lifetime of you know regret Um So Yeah, man, shout out to him. Straight up honesty there. That's cool.
Yeah. Straight up. And small G goat if they lose that game. Also, thank Cat. Because the play that Mitch Johnson drew up to get to Stefan Castle with 1.2 seconds to go, if you look at it, He was going to have a wide open dunk if the Dylan Harper inbound.
Yep. The sideline out of bounds, the slob. Um Corey Close has talked Susie, about sideline, inbounds, out-of-bounds passes, and baseline, the slobs and blobs. Had that slob worked. Had it gotten to Castle, it would have been a cat was defending.
But Cat got his hands on the ball. And had Hart not blocked Castle, and he got in the ball off and made the shot. What would have happened? is we would have replayed that. And we would have seen Carl Anthony Towns did get his hand on the basketball, which should have started the clock.
The minute it's touched, the clock starts. It's 1.2. It would have been a review. Wiping out Stefan Castle's game winner. Oh, wow.
100%. Could you imagine if that insanity ended on a replay? Also, that was possible like the World Series because they played that out. And by the time that Castle collected it and put it up, it was blocked by Hart, but let's say he didn't. And he got it in.
And they're celebrating, wait a minute. Carl Anthony Towns tipped it. Clock should have started, and guess what? By the time Castle collected it, 1.2 is gone. Hold on.
There's a video that shows Kat. Telling the crowds Heincastle to move in a little bit. How is that? Like, I don't know why that's allowed, but he had Marisca Hargate. There's a video.
Her hands are on the referee's back. That's how close the crowd was.
So I can imagine. No, but this was on the other side of where they were. But you could see Carl Anthony Town telling two guys who looked like extras. You know, come on in. Yeah.
Come on in. You know, but the Bud Fox sitting there. The Bud Fox. You know, hey, come on in there and crowd him. And so he was.
Dylan Harper was surrounded by Knick fans. Crazy. Nuts. That game was insane. Insane.
Yeah, it's still buzzing about it. 844-204-Rich number Dollar.
So what's more likely, Friday? I've got a top five, my top five New York sports moments of my life. Oh, that's later on. Let's take a break. We're back with more here on The Rich Eisen Show.
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So, episode three of this was Sports Center released today. I went on, I got up to get up.
So, how do I put this?
So I got up and then went on get up. And um Got uh promoting. with uh Mike Greenberg. on getup where he hosts the show. And from the set where I interviewed him, Back in December, for this was Sports Center.
Cultivating this caper for a long time with an idea. Greeny was the first interview of the six for season one that we did. You were there, too. I was there. It was awesome.
Because that's where we do the Rich Eisen show when we're in New York on setup, get up. Anyway, I got up today to promote This Was Sports Center with Mike Greenberg, the host of Get Up. And the conversation with Greene on this was Sports Center is. Great, and here's a little clip to indicate as such. Can I tell you the story of the first sports center I ever did?
I would love to hear that.
So when you first told me you wanted to have this conversation, I thought, what stories can I tell?
Okay. This is my best story. Yes.
So I get hired in August of 96. And as you said, you had to sit in meetings and watch and listen and all that.
So the first time they put me on there was October.
So I've been there six, eight weeks. And I'm going to do a 30-minute sports center at six in the evening on a Saturday with Larry Beal. Welcome to Sports Center. I'm Larry Beale alongside Mike Greenberg, who is making his Sports Center debut tonight. Welcome.
Thank you very much, Larry. Great to be here. I'll tell you all about myself another time, but we've got 60 minutes of highlights and just 30 minutes to do them.
So let's get it going. Larry was my first. Larry Beale, my first. I literally just said those words. Hi, hello, and welcome to Sports Center along with Larry Beale.
Who am I and what am I doing here? I'm Rich Eisen. I'm making my national TV debut. I had a lot of fun at parties. But that is how we used to say things.
Yes.
Right, that was a big deal, who you did your first sports center with.
Well, that's going to do it for this sports center.
Next one comes your way at 11 Eastern. Brett Haber and Steve Levy be along then. For right now, I'm Mike Greenberg. And I'm Larry Beale. Larry Beal, aloha.
Means goodbye. Means goodbye. And so I'm sitting, we do the show. My then-girlfriend Stacey flies in. You know, she's there.
That's a big deal. And we go out for dinner to celebrate afterwards.
So we go to this restaurant in Farmington, Connecticut. Yes.
And we're having dinner, and we sit down. Yeah. And the waiter. says oh i'm a Big fan of ESPN. I'm thrilled to have you here.
And I was like, oh my God. I've done one show for 30 minutes. I can't imagine how famous I'm going to be being on ESPN. And they're bringing food out, and they treat me like I'm the VIP to end all VIPs. And at the end of the night, the guy brings the check and he says, I just want to say, Mr.
Levy, it's been an honor having you here. I swear in my life, that is a true story. Oh, my God. I 100% thought I was Steve Levy. This was Sports Center out now.
Such a great story. I'm in the hairs. You know, I mean, you're thinking you're the man at that point. Oh, man. I've done one show and I'm already getting recognized.
Right? This is the life. This is the life. Okay, thanks, Mr. Levy.
Okay. Big fan. Yeah. Imagine the confusion if Steve did go to that restaurant like a day or two later. It was like, man, it was good.
He just saw you there. Listen, man, Steve Levy was, he still is the man, but he was the man. Like, he was the mayor man of that area. I remember going off of sports centers. At midnight uh the you know the mid If I ever did an eleven o'clock Sports Center and we were done at midnight, we would we would go to Hartford as fast as we possibly could to just, you know, go out.
Is that where the nightlife was in Hartford? That's what the nightlife was. There were two places. There was a ho there was Hartford and then there was Farmington, Connecticut, which is where I lived. And I'll tell a quick story about that.
This is what this is all about. I might tell these stories on Future This With Sports Center, certainly with leaves. um big bag of leaves which is what dan patrick nicknamed steve levy Um And um so we we used to go to um Uh coaches which was the name of the place in in Hartford, named after the uh Great. I think it was actually owned by Jim Calhoun. Oh, nice.
Yeah, that's why they called it coaches.
So uh and and Steve would Steve was the only one who would be able to let us stay that they let stay after things close down. Yeah. That's the pull that he had.
So everyone else get kicked out and yeah, everyone else get out of here. But if you're with Steve, you get to stay a little bit longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it tracks that Steve was getting free food. But it was really Mike Greenberg. That's pretty awesome. Great stuff there. And, and, uh, You know, There's some really good stuff that Mike Hoskins found.
from the archives 'cause Greene tells a story about the Mike and Mike years with him and Mike Golick right here on ESPN Radio. Um Fabulously successful program that put Mike and Mike in the uh broadca r radio broadcasting hall of fame. They're in there. And they were doing a show from Cleveland, Progressive Field, I guess, whatever, or Jacob's Field, whatever it was called at the time. And um His flight was delayed.
So Mike Torico. Who was in town decided agreed? I'll just do it for you until you get there. He was calling the game that night. That's what it was.
Wow. And he's just like, yeah, I'll just. I'll just sit in until you get here. And the story he tells about listening to how good Terico was and. Telling the guy driving to drive chess.
It's really well. I'm about to get replaced. It's funny. Step on it, bro. It's funny.
And we have a good conversation about what sports TV has become. He arrived six months after I did. and went straight to ESPN News. Uh while I was Fortunate enough to go straight to the sports center. Did news exist when you started?
It did not. Right. Chris McKendree and I were the last hires before ESPN News started. We have this whole conversation. Yeah.
And that's out there on Disney Plus, the ESPN app, our YouTube channel. presented by Gusto, our terrific sponsors. of this was Sports Centre. And so There's a lot of good nuggets with Mike Greenberg.
So I got up. the day in. And then after I, you know. There yeah, I was giving my thoughts on the Knicks. And I heard the producer basically telling me to rap through the Zoom.
I'm like, why is this person saying five? You're like, I got up, bro. I'm going to see what you're saying, five seconds. But of course, you know, I kept talking.
Well, you saw, did you see who came out right after you? That's why they were rapping. I'm not trying to get you here. Because Irvin Magic Johnson. Oh, yeah.
Oh, that guy. He walked out immediately. What has he ever done? A lot. I guess so.
A lot. So he got up too. But he's in New York.
So that's correct. He didn't get up that early. He didn't get up as early. Yeah. This was Sports Center.
Check it out, please. Dan Patrick, the first episode. We're still getting feedback from that, as well as Chris Berm and Mike Greenberg today. Linda Cohn next week. And that is, as I mention every single time, a giggle fest.
The only human who've done Sports Center over 5,000 times.
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