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May 26, 2026 4:00 pm

Shaquille O'Neal joins Susie Schuster on The Rich Eisen Show to discuss the NBA Finals, the New York Knicks, and the San Antonio Spurs. He also talks about his experience at Louisiana State University, where he earned a master's degree in liberal arts, and his plans to become a professional mentor. Additionally, they discuss the resurgence of the big man in basketball and Shaquille's advice to Victor Wembanyama.

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Now, on with the show. But I've never seen the Knicks play this way. It's unbelievable. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Rich Eisen?

Oh, that's Susie Eisen's healthy. With guest host, Susie Schuster. Earlier on the show, sports radio legend Christopher Matt Dog Russo. Senior NBA writer for the ringer, Howard Beck. Coming up, basketball Hall of Famer Shaquille O'Neal.

And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Susie Schuster. That is right, Susie Huster in for Rich Eyes, and Rich is busy flying to New York City.

So, guess what? I was very happy to come here and take a look for him. Happy to be with you. Hi, Christopher. How are you?

Hi, Susie. What's up? You know, just chilling. Just chilling. Not doing anything, just hanging out.

Just hanging out. Talking to a bunch of my friends out here. How are you guys? Kicking it. Yeah, just kicking it.

Kicking it. Mikey D, how are you, drive? Always fun when you're here. You know that. Thank you, Mikey.

Thank you for that vote of confidence. We've known each other all I mean, not a long time. Vote of confidence. Yeah, yeah. In sports, a vote of confidence usually means getting fired in like a week.

No. Let me just explain to you the beautiful thing here. I can't get fired. That's true. What's he gonna do?

Come home and be like, hey, honey, you did great. That's gonna cost you a lot. You did great. You did great. I listened to the show.

I was okay. You did great. Hi, TJ. I wore my Jerry West shirt today, the logo.

Okay. I know. Did I tell you this? Like, just an aside, you know, when you keep your voicemails, like, you know, like I'm a kind of person, I can't have any open emails, no open texts. I need to have zeros, right?

Oh, how do you do that? I don't keep that many voicemails, but I did keep the last voicemail from Jerry. Oh, really? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't you?

Yeah. Special, by the way.

So thank you for wearing that t-shirt today. Dr. O'Neill. Is in will be joining us very momentarily. Whenever I ask Cynthia for her help to get Shaq on and I always say, like, I broil in my own sweat until I see him actually show up.

And then I wonder, how he will show up? In the past, he's shown up in costume. Yep. Wearing frightening looking masks. Flipping pancakes.

He has cooked on this show before. Oh, really? So for you, Chris, you. You're betting kind of gay. I love it.

Well, I can see the preview monitor, and it's just an empty chair at his desk right now.

So I'm waiting to see him slide in Collinsworth style. Or like do a Dr. Evil spin-in reveal. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, like it's the voice.

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what he shows up at. I love it.

If he's still wearing a bag. Yeah, maybe he'll have his cap and gown on still. Could have the cap and gown. He could have a top hat on. Like he and Kenny were dancing Little New York, New York last night.

They broke the robots out last night, which was wild. The robots I think freaked out Charles. Charles was out there dancing with the robot. Yeah, but Charles gave that robot like a little looksy and he was like, I don't know, I'm not sure if I like this robot. I know it's kind of I don't understand a dog robot.

Why would you want a dog robot? I had a robot. I don't know. I'm like, we've all seen Terminator. We know this is a terrible idea.

I don't know why we're welcoming all this stuff. Exactly, thank you. The Terminator scared the crap out of me.

Well, yeah, it should have. Oh, yeah. She also sent me to the gym. Oh, the man. Because she had guns.

The man just said.

Well, and two. And number two. Number two, I mean. Linda Hamilton was, you know, she was shredded. Shredded.

By the way, sh she dropped and gave you fifty. Probably seventy-five. She was doing pull-ups in that movie. Yeah. Hi there, Doctor O'Neill.

How are you? Can you hear me? I can hear you. How are you? How are you?

Are you going skiing? What's happening here? Which ones you want? I like the white ones. What else do you have?

Let's see. Oh, but those feel way too normal. I can't interview you while you look that normal. I'm so used to being thrown for a loop a little bit more than that. These are 3D ones.

How many of these do you have at your desk? Those are sick. I mean, what else is that? What is that football helmet? Is that a Buffalo Bills helmet?

Like, what's behind you? Look over your left shoulder. What is that? Oh, no. I'm trying to get that works.

Pump up your rebucks and you just don't stop. Mine are so dirty I can barely see you. Yeah. Hey, did you have fun last night? How's your top hat?

It was good. That was crazy. Was it was it that crazy, though? Not really, because you well, we know the feeling because you were there every time I got swept. I remember we had Howard Beck on earlier, and in 2001, when you guys kept sweeping, and everybody kept, remember, all like the local guys would show up with their brooms and like, Hey, Shaquille, here's a broom for all your sweeps.

And you're like, yeah, I've heard that joke before. But that's what I felt like watching last night. And everyone was talking about, oh, what are the teams going to do in between? I'm like, yeah, we've played that song before, like you and I have. Are we starting now?

Yeah, we're already on.

Okay, I'm starting on. Hey, brother, is this on? What if you'd said something like inappropriate, or that would have been fantastic? That would have been really fun.

Now we're on. First of all, I would never say anything appropriate to the lovely Beautiful wife of the great. Hall of Fame Rich Eisen, it's not my stuff. Mm. No comment.

No, it was fun last night watching you and Charles dancing around on or it was you and Kenny dancing on ESPN. I also thought Charles looked really freaked out by the robots, by the way, but that's a whole nother conversation. He was. Charles Charles is a a a a freighty cat. Like he's afraid of everything.

I mean one time we had a We have a fake rabbit, and we gave him a fake rabbit. And he thought the rabbit was real. I was uh Last night They brought me back. I understand how James and how Dalaven is feeling. I think.

I don't know if I'm tied with LeBron, but I think I'm one of the biggest names with the most sweeps. Correct me, I know I, how many times have I got swept, Susie? You did. Let me look it up.

Well, I know we had the three in 2001, right?

Okay, so it was three in LA. And then you had. One in Orlando. Yep. No, two in Orlando.

Two in Orlando. Is that when you had the parade? Yeah, so that was the finals, and then the next year after that, when Mike came back, he had 96 or so. I have five. I don't think LeBron has four, so.

But, you know, my teams, we never quit. You know, we didn't have what it took to win, but. No, it looked to me like they gave up really, really early. And then New York just. I hate to say it, but New York just put their foot on their naked.

They just question. How good is this team? Is it about. They are so good. I already know what you answered.

They are so good. I owe the whole state and all five boroughs of New York an apology. Wow. Oh. Yeah, so I want to apologize to Spike Lee, Tracy Moore, Al Palagonia, all the superstars that were sitting there.

uh they are really good they they have it It reminds me of that Detroit team that beat us. My last year there. Yeah, with Rashid. They just got a bunch of guys that are just together. Because if you look at that, you know, Detroit team, you know, no disrespect to all the guys, but they didn't really have any really big name players that you talked about all the time.

You know, Big Shot Chauncey was there, Rashid was there, the whole family of Ben Mobs was there. They were a collective group and They just played together and they fought hard and they never gave up. When I look at this Nick team, it reminds me so much of that team. led by Jenny and Brunsonbuck. No, true definition of a player is you know is it makes his players around them better.

You know, game one where he mounted the comeback, where he went crazy. Cleveland adjusts and said, okay, we're going to double him. And then he kicked it to his guide, and Josh Hart started going off. You know, uh I think that Shannon playing well. You know, Kat's not really dominating like I want him to dominate, but he's really playing nice, smooth basketball right now, getting everybody involved, initiating the offense from the top of the key.

And they look good. OG Annanobali, you know, my guy. Alvarados coming in, you know, giving them a spark. And they just played very well. You know, Landry said last night, he said Nick's fans are are a unique species of human beings who should be studied.

What's your what's your favorite memory of either playing in New York or interactions that you have with Nick fans?

Well, Nick Fez thinks they're going to win every year. And they're loyal. They never switch up. Ever since I've been going up against the great Patrick Neon and Larry Johnson and the great Charles Oakley. They always said, We're going to win, we're going to win, we're going to win.

And then, when they lose, they go, Okay, don't worry about it, but we'll get them next year, and we'll get them next year, we'll get them next year, we'll get them next year. This is a year. I'm happy for New York. I'm happy we are going to be covering the finals. It's going to be great.

You know, Sean Barkley said this the other day. When the Knicks are playing great basketball, it's fun for everybody.

So now that the Knicks are in the final, I can't wait to see who they play. It's going to be great. It is going to be great. I was getting ready to say that I don't know if they can beat either team or the West, but now I don't know if I can say that. Why?

Because they're listen, they're playing excellent ball and They have everything covered. You know, they they they defend They shoot the ball. They never panic. That bounce back game is impressive. Only thing I fear, but not really, because I always enjoy when we got five to six days off because I could just rest my body and not think about anything.

They got nine to ten days off. being in New York and everybody, ah, Hopefully they don't get too happy because the mission is not accomplished. You know, me, if I was playing now, I would definitely enjoy these nine days off. The first three days, I wouldn't even do nothing. I would even look into basketball.

Four, five, and six, we'll probably know who our opponent's in. And then seven, eight, nine, I'm starting to get that face, and then I'm going to have so much energy in that game one. I can't wait till the final start. I know it starts next Wednesday, and I will definitely be there. I remember when you had those days off because you were banged up and you'd get your treatment, and you'd chill out, and Phil would raise his eyebrows every time.

Somebody would ask him what to do with that time frame. But then you came back and you lost game one before you went on to take care of Philadelphia.

So, what's the adjustment like that from your own experience? Yeah, but we uh Behind that was our That was our second championship. We had the blueprint, so I knew with all those days off, not to go crazy. I uh I just rest it. I got my massages, I did the ice.

I was up in Mahalo in the States. You know, first couple of days it was just... I was just focusing on being the daddy, just playing with the kids, doing stuff. Not really going out in the city too much, but. I listen to high-grade energy and I was feeling good.

We just went up against a guy that was what was not remarkable. He was super remarkable. Because remember, you know, our thing was, we're not doubling this guy. Hey, you're going to beat us. You have to beat us.

And I think he had, what, 48, 50 points of him? Mm-hmm. What do you make of the game that we're going to see tonight? What are you expecting? You think OKC bounces back?

Well they Uh are known to bounce back. They got smacked pretty good, but they don't. They don't seem to have any panic in there. And their system. You know, uh From a big man standpoint, I would like to see Victor Lumbiniana dominate.

It was nice to see a big guy dominate and put up the numbers that he put in. Game one, he had 40 that won. And Game 2, I think he was in the 20s, they lost. Uh this last game, game four, I think it was he had 22 points in the first half, ended up with 33. I think if he can put up the big numbers and play inside and get the Thunder defense to kind of react a little bit.

and then get his guys involved, they have a shot. And defensively for the Spurs, I don't think they need to panic every time SGA gets the ball. You know, the games that they lost, they were doubling him at half court damn near. And he was able to, you know, the great player that he is, he was able to, you know, pick the Spurs apart, you know, get everybody else involved. If I was a Spurs, I'd say, okay, that's she ain't get 50.

Hmm. You and I have talked about this many times, Shaquille. Shaquille O'Neil here on The Rich Eisen Show on Disney Plus. We've talked about. The resurgence of the big man, and you for years bemoaned that you didn't like how a lot of the big men were playing.

So let's talk about Wemby in particular before we go back to SGA. What is your advice to him on how he's been playing and how he should play going into these next few games?

Okay. My advice is to him, he has to be super aggressive because, you know, at his size with his skill set, it'd be super aggressive. the world has to panic. And when they panic, they're going to do what they always do. Send guys at them.

Not only send guys at you, you can get castle involved. You can get all your harper. Let me tell you something about that young harper. Oh my God. This kid is fabulous.

He is so fabulous.

So, you know, you can get him involved and you And that's the system. I've always called the spurs You know, organization, the system. The system is well in effect. But if he's dominating, if he's super aggressive, if he's close to the paint, taking high precision shots, look, I don't mind him shooting threes because he's a fabulous shooter, but I would like the majority of his shots closer to the basket. If he can do that, Cause OOKC to panic a little bit because you know he's having his way with shit.

And then, listen, every time they put Caruso on, That should be a sign of disrespect, and he should be looking to score.

So, if he dominates, if he's all over the place, and if he stays out of five triple. they definitely have a shot. But I w I I wouldn't tell them much because He has two mentors over there that We're all in the same office. You got the great David Robinson, and you got the great Tim Duncan there.

So you don't really need my advice because I wasn't really that type of player. I'm more of a power player.

So, you know, Tim was definitely inside and out. And so was David Robson.

So I'm sure he gets, you know, great, great advice from guys. And, you know, you still got Popovich coming in and out every now and then.

So I wouldn't tell him much. As a fan, I just enjoy watching him play, but I would love him to be dominant, not some of the time, but all the time. Did you have much interaction with Popovich? No, but I've always loved and respected Papa Vitch. I told this story one time.

I didn't have any issues. Couldn't afford them, couldn't even find them.

So I think the Spurs had a player though, seven foot.

So, you know, my father used to go at the local gym, and, you know, every now and then a couple of spurs would come in. And my father asked the Spurs, hey man, you know where I can get some shoes? And he said, yeah, and so he gave us the number and when we got to the organization, it was Pop. And Pop knew who I was in high school, he was a Heymania fabric player, and Pop gave me three pairs of shoes. And always had love and respect for Pop.

When we played against him, I didn't like him because it's my job not to like anybody. No, ever since that day I've always had love and respect for Papa Vitch, never have anything negative said about him. Definitely a great coach, Hall of Fame. I wish he was still around, and I wish him nothing but the best, and I wish him. I don't know how he's doing health wise, but I wish him nothing but the best.

That's a beautiful story, and you always have those for me. You know, you mentioned um SGA. And I would just let him go up to fifty. How does that affect the game plan around that then? What's your thought there?

Because OKC is dangerous when everybody's involved. When everybody's involved, and they're playing well, they're very, very difficult to beat. The other night, you know, he wasn't playing great, and then, you know, Caruso didn't get no threes, and, you know, all the others really didn't get a lot of. Opportunities to score points. I think in the game where they won in San Antonio, their bench points, they had a lot of bench points.

In the game that they lost the other day, I don't even think they've gotten double figures in bench points. I'm not sure, but. Uh if you keep them less involved. you have a high probability of winning.

So who do you think it's going to be then? I don't know, but I would like it to be I would like it to be the Spurs vs. Knicks, because I would like to see one be in person. You know, when you sit here and watch him on TV, it's magnificent. But I would like to see him in person.

I can remember in. High school watching Jordan on just, you know, watching on. One TV. And then I went to the game one time and I was like, Oh, he's real.

So I know image rare, but I would just like to see that in person. Susie Schuster, in for Rich Eisen on The Rich Eisen Show on Disney Plus. Shaquille O'Neal is with me now. How would you. Have played Wemby.

You got to make them play defense.

So, you know, I'm a power player. I always gave him two or three dribbles to try to get them under the ring. And do the same thing I did to DeKimbe Mutumbo. If you don't know what I did to DeKimbe Mutumbo, here it is right here. That's where you added a Susie and Rich.

And that's where you roll in the B-roll, Shaq? Is that what you're trying to say? Yes. Yes. I remember.

I was there. Street food, by the way. I think I'd rather have San Antonio, the river walk, when we would go there. Really good guacamole there.

So I think I would take street food in San Antonio over OKC. What would you do? I'm never gonna disrespect San Antonio. That's where I'm from. That's where the character you all know at the Shaq was created at Robert G.

Cole High School. I I went to the Riverwalk all the time on weekends. Fiesta, me and my boy Joe Cambolero, me and Ramos brother. Shout out, Mingo.

So I love San Antonio. I hope they win so I can get back home and. Remember that's on the stuff I used to do when I was in high school? Yeah, but check on street meet. Chuck wants a little street meet.

That sounds dangerous. That sounds like a one-way ticket to the messenger room. I like how he describes it. I want the street meat with that white sauce. It sounds so gross.

I can't do it. I just I can't do it. I mean, you guys are going to definitely be showing Chuck with a lot of street meat, right? Yeah, yes, we are. Can we talk about Louisiana State University for a second?

I was really proud of you. Watching your speech was really spectacular and beautiful. And yet another doctorate degree. What was it like for you there to be there? And to just The hard work that you've put in, I know how much work you've put into bettering yourself.

I am upset with you. You just broke the streak. What? You just made a mistake. What?

What did I say? LSU. Doctor. You said doctor. Masters?

Oh my God, you broke. Oh, you were perfect for 30 years. Oh my God. You know how much pressure it is to be perfect, Shaquille? Oh, you just broke the street.

You were the you were the only one that would come to me with information that would make me go. You make me go like this. I can't lie to you because you already know what you're talking about. But you know, I think it's a good idea.

Okay, you have a master's, you have a doctorate, you have a lot of it. You've got a sheriff's badge. What else do you have? I mean, okay. Take two.

I wanted to get a master's of psychology. But I said to myself, I don't want to disrespect the psychology industry. 'Cause you you know, I'm I'm sort of a Crazy thinker. My process was was was in the mind set off. How can you be a sports psychologist?

If you don't play sports at a high level. Right.

So I wanted to do psychology, but then, you know, if you do psychology, you got to get all these board certifications and myths and myths and blah, blah.

So I said to myself, I'm going to Focus on being a mentor. I've got a Masters of Liberal Arts. Um I wanted to Wanted to understand where the term mentor came from.

So I did a lot of research on the book The Odyssey. That's what my dissertation is about. Um the the interdisciplinary approach to mentorship. as seen in the book, The Novel The Odyssey.

So I'm going to be a professional mentor. I'm gonna open up my offices and soon here. Uh hopefully I can uh get hired by by a lot of colleges because you know Well I'm talking to people. I want to know they know what they're talking about. Because I remember one time when I went to see a sports psychologist in LA.

After missing all those free throws, you still there? Mm-hmm. I remember. I actually remember when you did this. Yes, I remember when I went to a sports psychologist at the midst and all these free throws.

And he tells me to breathe, Susie. And I was like. What did you say to me? I said, brother, we're going to Sacramento tomorrow for game seven and breathe ain't going to work. Breathe is not gonna work.

I've already gotten swept three times. We've already lost every time I'm here. If I lose this right now, I am done in this city. I am done. I will be the laughing stock of LA superstars in this city if I don't get this done.

So that always kind of. rubbed me the wrong way.

So again, I didn't want to Beat me against the psychology industry because I respect what they know on the academia side, but. If you never really played or played at a high level, I don't think I could respect your word. For example, if I'm gonna do a show, if I'm gonna be an analyst, if I'm gonna be a journalist. I would definitely talk to you. I'm not going to talk to one of these kids that just got on and has a million followers and he's a superstar overnight.

No, I'm not going to talk to him about the rigors of this business, but I will definitely talk to you because you start up from the bottom and you're very successful where you are now. Me and you, we kind of grew up together, so I know who you are, I know what you've done, I know what your husband have done.

So I respect people that have experience. And you've got a doctorate, so you're clearly really smart because you want to talk to me. I'm just saying. Yeah. And you are correct.

I remember that so well. And I think there was an Australian. Free throw Remember there was like an Australian free throw specialist who came in to try to work with you and wanted to change the like where your hands were on the ball. And at some point, you just had to like figure it out on your own. And I'm just curious before we go, About how you will work with kids.

Like, are you going to be available to kids at LSU? Are you going to start going on the road and starting to talk to kids across the country? Can you imagine the amount of kids? That can learn from you and what the attention will be for you on that. I mean, it's going to be a full-time job.

You know, one of the roles of of being a mentor is you have to listen.

So hopefully while I'm listening I have a story to tell though. You know, rather than saying, do this, do this, do this, I could give them my experiences of what I've been through or other people's experiences, because, you know. I've I've I've been around the block. came in with Penny. was there with Kobe.

Hold ship she bewade Seeing the king do what he do, seeing Steve do what he do. I have a lot of stories that, you know, hopefully. I could, you know, help these kids, you know, relate to their problems. But they know and understand that I know exactly what they're going through. Big game at LSU, you know, we got to win and you know the pressure's on you.

I know what to say to a kid. I know exactly what to say to a kid to say, hey, this is what you got to do. This is what you got to prepare, and this is how you have to think. And it all has to do with positivity. Shaquille O'Neal, right here on The Rich Eisen Show, Susie Schuster, in for Rich Eisen.

You were our very first guest on Women's Sports Now last year.

Now we're on ESPN, wherever you want to find us on the app, et cetera, Disney Plus, you name it. And you have been a mentor to Angel Rees and now also to Lauren Betts as you brought her under the Reebok umbrella.

So I'd love to get your thoughts on, first of all, how Angel's fitting in there in Atlanta and then also what you're seeing out of Lauren Betts in Washington. They are having fun. They are playing fabulous. They are both determined to do great things. And I just stay out of their way.

You know, they have my number, they know if they need me, they can call me. Another role of being a mentor is not to micromanage.

Now sometimes you just have to let people you know, figure it out on their own. You know, I had to You know, I hate to sound like this, but I grew up by myself. I didn't have anybody to call, so I was like, okay, I said this, they didn't like it. That was a mistake, delete that. I said this, they like it.

Okay, I keep doing interviews like this.

So sometimes you just have to, you know, teach yourself. But they're smart. I love the way they're playing and you know, they're happy and You know, that's all that matters to me. I wish I could punch some of these guys in their face that just pick on my angel and pick on my lawn, but. I have to be professional.

You were one of the first people, though, to back Angel Reese the way you did. Why did you do that? And what are you seeing out of her now? And can you believe how huge she has become? Because enough is enough.

Like yeah, like you know, the the problem with you guys' profession now as you're letting amateurs come in. And amateurs think they have the same rights as you guys have. You know what I'm saying?

So, you're letting all these guys come in and they just say stuff off the wall and they keep doing it. And then a lot of guys, when they get off air, they want to go to their page.

So, what do they do to go to their page? They'll take a hot topic and promote it on their page to get their followers up. But, you know, it's just a lot of nonsense and just a lot of embarrassing and a lot of bullying sometimes. You know, guys bullying guys is fine, but I can't let you just bully females just so you can get likes. Mm.

Although I will tell you this. Angel has a great way of standing up for herself. And I really respect that about her. And I have to call her some time and be like, hey, I got it. Don't you respond?

I got no, don't do that. No, no, no, no, no. You relax. I got you.

Alright, before we let you go, and I have to let you go, who's going to win it all? Yeah. I don't know. I wish I could have that answer. Oh, where's your where's your magic ball?

I don't have a mental boring sick. Where's your Swami hat? Mm-hmm. And we call them. Let me put my futuristic glasses.

I don't know Again, you look like you're going skiing.

So look through those glasses. Who do you see? Hoisting the trophy. Do you see street meat or do you see guacamole or barbecue? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. How? I mean, you know what?

It was so cloudy, I can't see. Yeah, yeah. The future's so bright, you need shields. Not out, no, because I don't know who's playing yet. I know.

Yeah. I tell you what, before the finals start, you want me to come back, I'll come back for you. That would be delightful. That would be delightful. Um Shikil O'Neal, I love you.

Mm-hmm. I love you more until your wonderful husband. I said hello. And who's the other guy? I didn't even see his face.

What's his name? Who, TJ over there? Or Chris Brockman over there? What up, Basil? That's McClure.

Go ahead, ask my question. Jack, what should the Celtics do? Should they break up the J's or go get Giannis? I don't think they should break up the J's. I agree with you.

I think I should regular Jays. Thanks, Jesus, uh. They just have to learn how to Have better in-game adjustments. You know, the Celtics, they're going to die by the jump shot and live by the jump shot. Yeah, it's tough to watch sometimes.

It is tough to watch. When it's falling, it looks pretty, but. Oh, you have to have that mentality. Hey, I just missed two threes. Let me go take a high-percentage shot.

And that's why they lost, you know. Jalen Brown was playing excellent. And, you know, Tatum came back. Listen, it still could work. You can still have two alpha males on the same team doing the same thing.

Because, listen, they're both going to touch the ball. You know, it just comes down to who's going to take the last shot. And the game always dictates that.

So I don't think there's an animosity between them, that they're trying to make animosity between them by. About that single phrase, whose team is it? But once you figure out your formula like You know, our formula back in our day was give me the ball early. Probably going to be missing a lot of free throws. Kobe, you take over in the fourth quarter.

And we just ride it like that. And it worked for us, we were able to win three games in a row, but We did a great job of having in-game adjustments. Mike Hoskins came up with the good watch your head for you, Shaq. Here we go. Here we go.

We got it for you. Ready? You got that. Shot you have in the back? of a certain finger wagger?

Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. Watch your head. One, two, three. Watch your head.

One, two, three. Watch your head, TJ. Watch my head? They're going to say, watch your head. I don't even know what that means, but I do have a question for the diesel.

Shaq, you know, you've been on here a few times with Suze. You might know. I'm a Sixer fan because I grew up in Pennsylvania. I love Dr. Jay like you.

He is still to this day, with all due respect to you, my favorite basketball player ever. Moved to LA in 99, adopted the Clippers because I didn't want to make people think I was a bandwagon jumper for the Lakers because I didn't want to hear any crap.

Now people want me to just Give up my fandom for the Sixers and the Clippers. I need you to tell me this, Shape. Do either of these franchises have a chance to have what the Knicks are doing right now? Like, I want to feel like the Knicks fans, but I don't know if Philly or the Clippers can do it for me. Should I hang on or should I just let it go?

What does this say that I'm saying? You're saying yes. Hang, hold on. And I'm lying to you. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Not a chance. No, I was shot in hell, brother.

So I should just go up with my life, pick a new team. You know, my god brother is a man named Johnny Moore. You might have heard of backcourt with George Gervin for the Spurs back in the day.

So before Wemby got there, they were like, You should just become a Spurs fan. And I'm like, Yeah, I should. Try to tell you.

So I should just give up on the Clippers and the Sixers and. Yeah. All right, 'cause like Curtis Blow, Shaq, basketball's my favorite sport. And it hurts me to see my team stink like this.

So I think it is time you might be right. I gotta move on. Bye, Shack. Love you. Love you more.

See you next week. All right, Shaq. Thanks, Shaq. Appreciate your answer.

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Calls. Gotta love my win-loss. Sharon, you have been so great holding on. Can we do the uh a little bit of Cardinals win-loss for you, please? Oh, yes, absolutely.

But first, I love your show.

So glad to be able to speak with you. This is awesome. Oh, I'm so thrilled. I mean, and by the way, thank you for watching this show. Thank you for watching Women's Sports Now.

We really appreciate it as we kind of build something really fun. And we're we're fellow Laker fans, so that's even better. I mean, right, when you think about Alex Caruso, when you think of Josh Hart, I can just every time I see those guys, I just think about they were there, they were there in twenty seventeen, eighteen, so kind of crazy, right? They dig at me and go, Wasn't he on the Lakers? Wasn't he on the Lakers?

Wasn't he on the Lakers? It's awful. Analytically, they're still playing for the Lakers, right?

Alright, Sharon, let's do this. We're lost in week one. Ready, guys? You got music ready? Let's go.

Okay, yep. Week one, TJ, pay attention. I got you.

Thank you. Week one at the Chargers. Week two, Seattle at home. Ugh, home brutal. That's brutal.

I lost. Week three at San Francisco. Woof! Last. Oh boy, week four at the Giants.

Win. That's my brother's favorite team.

So I need some branding water. Yeah, you do. What's your brother's name? Joe! Joe!

Take that, Joe! One and three. Week five, Detroit at home. Wash. Week six at oh gosh, at the Raiders.

Yeah. At the Rams, sorry, at the Rams. Yeah it's the round. Loss? Loss.

Okay. Week seven, Denver at home. Uh really? Yeah. Uh Denver at home.

Oh shoot.

So I'm going to say upset. When?

Okay, I'll go with it there. Week eight at Dallas. Oh, Lord. We're going to win. They haven't beat us since 2017.

Hey, TJ. I mean, she knows both.

Sorry, she knows both.

Sorry, TJ. Week nine at Seattle. Wow. Week ten at the Rams. Or home for the Rams.

See, I can't was it with the Rams in me today? The Ram's um, I feel like we If they keep beating us at home, we should win this one. I hope. All right, week 11 at KC. Dr.

Loss.

Week twelve Home for Washington. Oh, that's a win. Week thirteen, home for Philly. A bio week is fourteen fifteen. Home for the Jets.

Wait. On the road from New Orleans? You know, that guy before I was tripping, but yeah, we're probably gonna lose to them. Week 17: Home for the Vegas Raiders. Oh, lottery against lottery.

Um, I go for a win. In week 18, San Francisco at home to close out. I hope they fit people so we can win. What? TJ, numbers?

Let's see here. One, two, three. Nine and eight. Hoskins, so he's counting over there. 9 and 8?

Yep. Hoskins beat you to it. 9 and 8. Hey, thank you for holding on. Really appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you, Tran. I really appreciate it. When we come back, guys, I got a top five. Hey, you don't even know about it.

I don't. I do, kind of. You do? I kind of keep a surprise. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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I'm not like, I'm not going to let Richard be the only one with the top five. You shouldn't. I even have my own. My own wheel. What do we have?

Where's my drop? Where's my special drop? One, two, three, four, five. Susie's. Top five.

I mean, look at the production values. I mean, that is the highest production value I've ever seen. Wow. What music? Top five is presented by Hyundai.

Hyundai Hyundai. Yeah, it is. That's good music.

Okay. It makes me sound really serious. Um Number five. What do you think, guys? Where do you think I'm going?

Where do you think I'm going? We need the title. I don't know what is the category. What are the games? I don't even know what to do.

I'm too self-satisfied that I forgot to do the title.

Sorry, you gotta tell us what we're doing. I can't do everything. All right, I can't do everything here. Top five fluffs. Flops.

Let's start again. Top five flops of all time. Talking sports? Top five flops of all time. Okay.

It's all time. All time. It's in the title. Any flop. Come on.

God. Number five. Yes. Analytically speaking, they are still winning.

Alright, so the my number five is the calves. Oh. That's a flop. That is an all-timer. That's an all-timer.

All-timer. Game one of the choke, whatever you want us to call it. What, 22? Choke, flop. 22 and like seven minutes left.

I got so excited, I forgot to tell you what the thing was. That's okay. That generally helps. Seriously. Because I was excited about animation.

That was the word I was looking for. I'm like, I can't get the word animation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imaging. You're good.

You got it. The Cabs in game one. Yeah, that was a flop. Number four. Number four.

Shark NATO 2. Oh! Oh, terrible. Who needs a movie about sharks and a NATO or even two of them?

Well, the first one was. The first one was trying to make us pretty great. But haven't there been like six or seven? Wait, did you just say the first one was pretty great? Yeah.

No, wasn't it? No. What's wrong with you? That doesn't great. Do we need six of them?

I don't think so. Sure, Canado, two is a flop. Not yours. Number three, Vlad Divats. Greatest flopper of all time.

He makes Shay look like an amateur. Gotta be honest, see, I never knew of a flop being used in sports until Vlad age. He was the flopper of all time, and then you go to interview him in the locker room, and he just stunk of vodka and like cigarette smoking wearing a black leather jacket. He was a true jacket. I have like recurring imagery of me in Sacramento.

George Washington. Peaks of vodka. Cigarettes and vodka. Wow. Vladi was kind of a flopper.

The greatest. Number two. Go with me here, people. Millie Vanilli. Oh.

Flop. Which ones Millie Vanilla? They won Grammys. Baby, lose my number because you're a flop. I mean, they were frauds.

They were frops. They were flaws. But the number one guy's got to be. SGA. Yeah, he is.

SGA me be the flop of a look. I mean, like, by the way, Wemby looks like one world trade over him. It is ridiculous. Do you have one more? One more?

One more. I did not know. Hey, Coopie. Oh, I don't know what happened. That would drop.

What happened to that one? Audio Engineer, Mike. You ain't winning that. You're doing great, Mike. Swaggy P.

Swaggy Pete. Swaggy Pete. Although the meme. Hey, Swaggy Pete. It's the greatest meme ever.

That is the biggest flopper of it. One more. That's all we got. All right, guys. Why is Cooper sound so foggy?

It was just a transfer that got a little swagger. Guy's going to win an Emmy tonight. The audio. Good job, Mike. Not that one.

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So you can't panic. You got to find your top five. Live TV. Yeah. Yeah.

You can't panic. Can't panic. Because they don't know what's going on.

So they know I gave it to her. Yeah. They don't know what's happening, so they, you know, they know you were panicking. I'm just saying it's right there. Right there.

I just have to remember to actually put my glasses on. You guys, great show tomorrow. And back for another one. Great to be you. To everybody here.

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