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Earlier on the show, longtime golf writer Alan Schipnock. Coming up. 2026 NFL draft prospect Jonah Coleman. Basketball Hall of Famer Chris Weber. Actor Bob Odenkirk.
And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We chatted amongst ourselves and also about the live tour potentially ending in short order with Alan Shipnuck in hour one. Hour number two, Chris Weber is going to be joining us shortly. And then in hour three, Better Call Saul himself.
The great Bob Odenkirk in studio in support of his new film, Normal. Um, which has an abnormal body count in it. I'm not going to lie. It's quite something. It's a quick, wild watch to say the least.
And he is going to be in the studio to talk about that, support of that. And as you might imagine, we have got a ton of questions for him when he joins us here in studio hour number three. My top five teams that should trade up in the NFL draft still to come. Your phone calls as well: 844-204-RICH, number to dial. We listen when our guests talk.
Okay. It's just in. Good quality to have as a talk show. Yeah, of course. We hear them.
We listen and we hear. Todd McShea, when we were talking about the running back class, Jeremiah Love, Jadarian Price, two Notre Dame running backs. And I'm like, who are we not talking about? Who should be. Discussed more who's shooting up in draft stock.
One of the names that he mentioned is our next guest from the University of Washington football program, Jonah Coleman, is here on the Rich Rising Show. Good to see you, Jonah. How are you? What's going on, man? I'm doing amazing.
You're too good. It's good to be on the show. I appreciate that.
So, your name, you know, he dropped it, and we're like, let's go meet him. And now, here we are. Uh what has your draft process been like so far? John. You know, really controller controllable is just because I had an injury during the season, so I wasn't able to do combine.
I was able to do prodate, but I wasn't able to test or anything. But I know that if I can control, like, you know, what kind of person I'm presenting myself to be, and you know, just ultimately just being myself when I'm interviewing. And that's something that I've been doing, which is crushing these interviews. And I'm getting great feedback, you know, from my agent and also great feedback from these teams that, you know, after our interviews.
So just being able to control what I control is what the whole process has been about.
Well, I'm sure they're all asking you about your health. What do you tell teams? I'm good to go. I'm ready to go. That's why I did Pro Day.
I didn't test because ultimately I didn't have enough time. But the main thing was, you know, being available. And the best ability is availability.
So just being able to show them I'm available, I'm ready to go.
Okay. How many teams have you visited? I visited two teams. I visited with the Denver Broncos and I visited with the Minnesota Vikings and also had a quick visit with the Seahawks.
Okay. Well, yeah, those are pretty good teams that you you went and you saw. What was your conversation like with Sean Payton? The HC. Of the draft?
We had a quick conversation. He just pretty much asked me how I was doing. He said that he was excited to have me there. It was great meeting him. Just the whole Broncos organization was, you know, ultimately in great spirits when I was there.
And I felt all the love that they have to give and just the camaraderie that they have as far as in the coaching staff and the culture that they're building there is amazing. I would definitely say that's like been the highlight of the draft. You know, they showed nothing but love and the utmost respect when I visited there, and it was just an amazing experience.
So, what, what, what? All right, let's start with how you started running, okay? You've been running back your whole life, correct? Or did you. Were you with somebody who was playing on defense and a coach said you should start running it?
How did you start? Carrying a rock in your career. I first off was playing receiver. That's when I first started playing football. I was playing receiver.
And then one of my best friends in Literally, he had came to the game late.
So it was like, oh, who's going to be running back today? He's coming late.
So ultimately, it was like, Jonah, just play running back.
So I'm at running back with number 81 on. And pretty much from there, it took off. I just started being a running back from there on out. And then 58 touchdowns in your high school career in Stockton, California, correct? Oh, yeah.
Okay. Something like that. I don't remember correctly. No, I got it right. Unless Wikipedia or Google's wrong, and they're usually quite accurate.
And then you wound up at Arizona, right? This is where you want to go? Wound up eventually at the University of Washington as well.
So, who do you model yourself after? I feel like a great comparison for me is like Josh Jacobs. You know, he has great feet. His short area quickness is really good. In between the tackles, you know, he's a physical runner.
He finishes every run that he has. You know, it's great in pass pro. He has soft hands, natural pass sketcher.
So I just pretty much modeled my game after him. You know, seeing him come from Alabama and then ultimately do what he does at the Raiders and stuff was something that I really enjoy watching. And who else? Who was your guy growing up then? I was more like the so when I was growing up, I used to watch a lot of LaDani and Thompson and like Marshawn Lynch.
So those my two guys, you know, growing up. Uh, you you know, you can't go wrong with beast mode and then obviously what LaDanian Thompson done was was dominant.
Well, I mean if you want to talk about throwing your weight around, I mean Marshawn Lynch, that's the guy, right? That's the guy. Yeah, for sure.
So what does a team get with Jonah Coleman? What do you say when somebody's like, who are you? And what are you going to bring to a team? What's your answer?
Well, ultimately, you're going to get a guy that's, you know, either better the culture or fit right in with what they're building. And I'm a big culture guy, and I'm big on, you know. how things go on in a locker room because ultimately that's what it comes down to when you're trying to win the Super Bowl. The guy's in the locker room.
So ultimately you get a guy that ultimately betters that culture or, you know, that's adding value to something that's already good. And then I'm a football player. You know, I wouldn't be in a situation if I didn't play football good.
So I feel like just the kind of person I am is ultimately be an upside. You know, being a. Being a great teammate and doing what I can to ultimately help the team, you know, go to a Super Bowl and win it. That's the ultimate goal. What do you say what do you think?
Jonah Coleman, when you hear draft analysts or you know, hosts who talk to the draft analysts. Say that the running back class in this year's draft isn't very deep, that you need to get those two kids from Notre Dame. And that's about it. After that, good luck finding yourself. a top notch running back in the draft.
What do you say when you hear that? Jonah. At the end of the day, Uh I have consistently dominated college football at my position for Four years, if you really look back at the stats, I've consistently been a consistent runner. Um I mean I don't really pay attention to what anybody that's not playing football has to say. At the end of the day, I know what I bring to the table and I know what I do.
Um And like I said, I'll be that hidden guy in the draft that somebody gets whenever they get them in. Ultimately, gonna be one of those guys that show up on Sundays that's that's dominant.
So, I don't really try to pay too much attention to the media. I let them talk and you know, let them do what they do. I didn't get to have a combine, so I mean, I kind of fell out of. the the talk and the conversation because I didn't just rap but At the end of the day, I play football. I got taped, and I'm not gonna lie.
me not running the forty or me doing a vertical jump. Dictate. How good I am at football. You know what I mean? I've been doing this for my whole life.
Like I said, I wouldn't be in the position that I'm in if I didn't know how to play football or if I wasn't a good player. I just let them talk in and I do what I do.
So where are you going to be for the draft? What's your plan? I'll be in San Diego with my family. of friends. All right.
How many folks? What's the size of the affair and the event?
Well, probably like 40 max. I mean, I got 10 siblings already.
So, you know, that's already 10 people right there. And then I have 15 nieces.
So you add that together. That's already 25. And then I got s six nephews.
So where are you at? You had 30 already, 30 something in there. Just a couple, you know, close friends like. guys that I grew up with and then you know some guys that I met along the process that are really good friends to me and then my manager and then you know pretty close people not trying to have it too big or To anything, just want to enjoy my time for the work that I put there for my family. That's almost a roster full of uh for an NFL.
You could field your own NFL roster. Um, so where are you in the uh 10 siblings in the middle, younger, older? Where are you? I'm right, I'm right in the middle. I'm the only kid that my parents have together, so the rest of my other siblings are like half siblings.
But if you like, look at the numbers, um, I land right in the middle.
Okay, so there you go.
So you're you're you're a leader in your own family, you're also trying to. You know, blaze your own trail. And I just wanted to meet you since I'm here and. You know, that you are somebody that should be further up more radar screens, and I appreciate you taking the time here. I send my best of luck to you, and I look forward to calling your name on draft night and getting you back on the show.
Most definitely. Thank you for having me on here. I'm excited to be on it. Thank you. I'm really grateful for the opportunity and Um, just let them keep sleeping.
Uh, at the end of the day, they still gotta uh put on the helmet and shoulder pads and play football.
So that's what I do. You got it, Jonah. Best of luck. We'll chat serve nice. Good luck, my man.
Jonah Coleman. There he goes. There he goes. Sold. You know, I mean, honestly, how many fifth, sixth, seventh-round drafted running backs, not saying that's what he's going to be.
But when you think of under the radar screen, you think of a third day, maybe, person. Sure. How many I mean Isaiah Pacheco, seventh round. Right, Kyle Monungai. Yeah.
Right. Like, keep on all over the draft. Keep looking. Yep. Um And they've been Crucial.
Now usually they're from Rutgers, but You know, end of the day, though, you got yourself a kid who's like, look at me. Don't look anywhere else. 844-204-Rich. Number to Donald. Let's take a phone call here.
Jeffrey in San Francisco here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Jeffrey? Rich eyes in. What's up, Jeff? Jeffrey.
What's up, buddy? I don't know your last name, otherwise I'd call it the full. Yes, Jeffrey. What's up? Rich Eisen.
Yes, sir. Everybody? Um you're on the air, sir. What's going on? Don't curse.
All right. We want to put him back on hold then? Definitely. Yeah, you there? Hello?
There he goes. Put him back on hold. Carl in Antioch, Illinois, wants to talk with one of us in particular. Hey there, can you hear me, Rich? Is that we can.
Carl, what's up, bud? Rich? Uh-oh. Are we? Is this situation working?
Ooh. Hello? Yeah. Yeah, it's not me. It's you.
It's on your end. Can you hear me, Carl? I can hear you now. Can you hear me? I can.
What's up? RL. Hey, what's going on? I got some. I wanted to talk.
Well, I wanted to talk to everyone, but I guess primarily it seems like TJ is the wrestling expert in the room. And I had some WrestleMania talk. Um and I was open. Rich, can you do me a favor, please?
Okay. I'd appreciate it. I want the second city just like Odin Kirk. I wonder when he comes on if you could tell him that Carl. said hi.
Carl said hi.
Okay. That might not be w what I lead with. That's okay. Carl and Hinton acts. That's okay.
Anyways, but I'm a second city actor, too, so he's been a big inspiration.
So I'm and if he's interested, you know. Is interested in uh investing in my television show, we can get into that later. But I wanted to talk about the WrestleMania real quick.
So is TJ there? Yeah, Carl, what up? Oh, what's up, man? All right, so I wanted to go by some. I have a couple of little predictions, things.
I wanted your opinion, your two cents, if you would. All right, let's go.
So first off, with the Bailey match, I'm thinking that there's a chance that Bailey gets fed up with losing, goes full cycle on Lyra and turns on her and starts beating her up, and she starts turning heel.
Okay. As far as the first of all, I think Orton wins. I think the Usos are going to try to help Roman, but they're going to fail miserably and end up hurting him. And I think they're going to cost him the match, and that's going to alert Lean to. Turn into like an inner family feud over the next few months over, like, is it your fault, my fault, who's the boss?
I'm the leader, I got the all that stuff. Um I think Brock has to win 'cause you can't have the rookie beating Brock First match, and I think that sets up like maybe a best of five series over the rest of the year. But you can't have you have to have Oba Lu, so they have something to cheer for him to get revenge.
So I think Brock's going to win somewhat of a relatively short match. My goodness. And what do you think about my underdog pick of the weekend? Is Bianca and her husband making a surprise entrance and starting a feud with all the other couples, like Punk and AJ, and Becky and Seth. And there's like a little feud between all the married couples, and Bianca makes a surprise appearance with Montez.
All right, Carl.
So just to knock this out real quick: Bailey, I doubt she'll turn on Lyra because Becky did the same thing to Lyra last year.
So I don't see them doing that again.
So I don't agree with that. Randy probably will win. Yes, the Usos turning on Roman could happen. That's an interesting point you made. Oba has to go over Brock, in my opinion.
He's the next Beck. Brock was the next big thing. Oba's now the big thing. Oba's got to be Brock. And who was the other one you said?
And Bianca Montez. That would be cool to have some couple. That's a good thing. You know, maybe get some mixed match challenges in down the road. That would be cool.
But I think Oba has to go over. Yeah, the same way Bailey and EO came and made a surprise at the end, like a couple of years ago, or that was SummerSlam, I think in Tennessee, they made that surprise appearance. But I love it. And I know that my pics might be a little crazy, but there's nothing more crazy than Bob Odenkirk slamming me through a table while I close my eyes and I think about my dear friend, Andy. Carl, Antioch, Illinois, everybody.
That was from the beginning. We're a wrestling show now, Rich. Yeah. What? Trying to see if I got an answer.
Oh, here we go. I have the answer. I have the answer if you want to know. I would, I mean, sure. Would you like to know?
I mean, you're the only one who's co-hosting it. Yeah, that's true. You should want to know when you're working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. WrestleMania Preview Special featuring no contest wrestling.
That's the name of it. That is. That's fun. I named it myself. No contact.
2 Eastern, 11 a.m. Pacific on ESPN 2.
So we're competing tomorrow.
Okay. It's okay. It's fine. Yeah. We have to crush you to the next one.
It will re-air at 4 Eastern, 1 p.m. Pacific on ESPN News, and again at 9 Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific on ESPN News. Ooh, two re-airs. Nice.
So three airings. Love it. One live, two re-airs. And it'll be on ESPN News. Would you like to know who the guests are?
I know that already. You do know that. You do know that. So, why won't we talk about it?
Well, I was waiting for a time when it was proper.
Now it seems proper. Among the guests. Among the guests will be Nia Jax, Nia Jax, Lash Legend, the WWE Women's Tag Team Champions. R-Truth, which is my name. I don't know if you know I'm coming.
I'm R-Truth. You are R-Truth. That's true. It's amazing. What's so funny?
Nothing. I am the truth. I'm not laughing. I speak truth. I am the truth.
Uh Damien Priest? Yes. And uh Joe Fortenball. Yes. Okay.
So we have two sets of tag team champions, and we'll be interviewing them. And you've got a top 10, it looks like. I've got, well, I'm not to kind of differentiate it, it's not going to be a traditional top 10. It's just going to be a list, but I'm not necessarily ranking the list. It's going to be TJ's Quintessential Guide to WrestleMania to help people who maybe have never watched WrestleMania before.
To get into it and then to, you know, just remind the fans of some of the great moments.
Okay. Yeah, that'll be good. Can I give an opinion? Please do. Because, you know, I'll always try to give you my two cents.
I sit under your tree. I would rank them. I'd order it.
Well, I said that, but the cloud version of my thoughts. I brought it both ways, and they were like they like not putting them in order to kind of separate it. Interesting. Separate it from what? To make it not like an ESPN countdown.
Okay. No. Who knows? By tomorrow, they might be ranked. I don't know.
You fly and be free. Do your. You know what I mean? I'm going to take my hands off the steering wheel. I'm going to touch the control frequency.
Yeah, Rich, you're not involved. That's you're not involved. I'm not involved. You're not involved. Yeah, but I'd love your input.
Really? Yeah. Okay. It's everything you'll need to prepare you for WrestleMania 42 live from Las Vegas. Exclamation point.
Yeah. Nope. It's what came on my email. It'll be two exclamation points. I've gotten the answer for you.
Utah. 2 p.m. Eastern. 2 p.m. I said on ESPN 2.
And then two hours later, a re-air on ESPN News. And then at 9 Eastern, another ESPN News. Two re-airs. I said 2 p.m. O'Shea and TJ.
This is amazing. I gotta say, it is great. It's kind of just and I just love that. At least it got you to tighten up your beard, which is great. My beard is always tight.
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It is Mania season. I know. Tis the season. I wonder. Sea Webb wrestling guy.
Are you a wrestling guy, Chris Weber, at all? I am, but I'm like. I'm like more old school. I love Rhodes, though, don't get me wrong, but I love him because of him and his father. But I'm like, you know, Macho Man, Elizabeth, you know, There was a guy who was at the draft in Cleveland years ago.
Dressed up like him. Dressed up like him and talking like him to the point where we thought he was still alive and it really was him on the stage. That guy goes to every Browns game. Oh, is that right? He's a fixture.
Macho Man cosplayer. Good to see you, Chris Weber. How are you doing? Oh, see, Webber, yeah. Doing great, man.
I'm doing great. No, I can't do it. Greg, it was good to see you on our Sports Center the other night. I forgot what it was. The masters here.
Thanks, man. It was a blast from the past, you know, getting back, getting to be able to go back there and. And kind of close a door, open a new one. And it was great. Thank you for saying that.
Hey, and I also saw. um, Grant Hill as your guest on the Chris Weber Show, which you launched um just this month. And you've got um that that exchange with your brother Giving him back the jersey, right? That that that Grant gave him years ago. Can you tell that story for those who might not have seen this?
It was unbelievable. Yeah, Chris. Yeah, thank you. On this show, I try to have conversations with people that not only I've known or the public known, but that there's a lot of backstory. And so I've known Grant.
Forever and we talk about me going to Duke or him recruiting me and other things. But yes, so after they beat, I believe it was UNLV, it was my freshman year when they actually beat us at that time. The MVP of both teams were awarded MVP, so we're standing on the court. I'm down or whatever, and the Jersey, when they beat, I believe, UNLV, the game before the championship game. He gave my brother the full and entire uniform, and it's something that.
My aunt has had in her basement is something that I've probably had in my house the last 20 years, you know, as I just started going through some of the stuff for the show. And my brother David said he wanted to give it back. I wanted to get it appraised, but he wanted to give it back.
So it was a heartwarming story. My brother Dave was a hooper. His numbers retired, or he's in the all-of-fame at Central Michigan University. He was a great hooper. And we just talk about stories of acts of kindness.
And he did that to Dave at 12 years old. And it really inspired Dave to become the great player that he was. Grant didn't want it back. He didn't want to take it. Right, Grant's a good guy, man.
He's a great guy. Again, we've known his family. We also talk about me getting in trouble at his house and his mom, his mom getting on me, and then me going home and my mom getting on me. But, you know, he's like family to Dave. And so it was very hard for Dave to, you know, for Grant to accept it.
And even to this day, he keeps texting me: do you guys, you know, you sure you want it? But, you know, that's Dave's decision. Again, I would have got it appraised or at least just given him those tight-ass shorts and kept everything else. Grant sits there like presidential. You know what I mean?
Like he's got this air about him. Might come from his stock, obviously. His dad had that, his folks had that sort of. heirs about him uh themselves He just sat there like the president, and you're offering him his You know, his seal back. It really was something.
It was a great. Yeah, I think hopefully it was transferred as emotional as it was for Grant at the same time. But when you talk about Grant, one of the things he talks about is leadership that he loves and kind of the three areas he went into in retirement. And so to me, he's as presidential as he acts, and he's as. Silly as you don't see him on the side, you know, but he's a great example, and I hope his story of just an act of kindness.
So many players have done that to me, and I think sometimes. People think it's just stories when I'm saying Isaiah Thomas said something to me, or this or that. And when you see an A-cuff and how a player spoke to him, it's the same thing. It's those act of kind. I mean, you do it all the time, I'm sure.
It's people coming from a journalism school or a podcaster or something like that, saying, Hey, I remember this moment. And, you know, and you give them one small word of advice, you know, you don't know how far that goes. And so, on my show, I really try to talk about celebrating. Celebrating accomplishments, diving into kind of the obstacles. But really talking about the journey.
And so, for me, it's just the jersey. It's not, it's my friend Grant. But David, a sports therapist now that advises. Everyone from kids in trauma to different teams and their players, you know, really understands how we're all affected, whether it's by negative words, whether it's by negative actions, or whether it's positive words and positive gestures. And you never know.
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Check that one out: The Chris Weber Show with Grant Hill as episode one. Let's talk about the play-in tournament contests we've seen so far, Chris, starting with the first one. When you saw Lamella Ball take out the leg of Bam Autobio, you thought, what? Chris? Man, so You know, Rich, I don't know if It's the error of not wanting to make a mistake.
And therefore, skipping it and then being judged after not making a mistake. Being judged after not making a mistake may be less harsh. In making a mistake, being judged. I don't know if that makes sense, but that's what I feel. And why would I say that?
It seemed that if the referee saw that play. I can name another play where he traveled and took two you know, after he gathered, took his one step. He lost the ball and took one more step. And I was looking at, you know, the thing that makes this game is the rules, you know. And so, yeah, I couldn't believe that play.
I agree with. You know, I don't think it was on purpose or malicious. I think every player has done that after a foul, will grab a guy trying to hold his leg. You know, so I don't think it was any. being malicious on boss part, but at the same time You know, there's two teams, and I thought something, you know, a tech, you know, it was just, it was so obvious, and that's what I mean about maybe not wanting to take responsibility is what I should say instead of not making a mistake.
I couldn't, you know, believe it. After that, you know, seeing how Charlotte played and Big shots that they hit, and you know, just making it happen. Hey, you're gonna have those things in the game, so I feel that way. But so what?
Now you gotta win the game, and they went and won the game. And so I thought it was pretty impressive by a young, exciting team that I'm looking forward to watching grow. No doubt. And the fact that he was in the game to make the game winner. And bam out of bio was not.
Listen. I thought it was reckless, and that is the word used by the NBA Executive Vice President James Jones called it unnecessary and reckless. created significant injury risk. And I don't know if this is fair or not, but I'll say it anyway. That's something that could be described to his driving.
is well around town, And I I I sit here and I marvel at his talent. I marvel at how he can play. And I'm sitting here wondering if he should be playing. And I know that might be pretty harsh. But it's the truth.
And I think So, I don't know. No, I feel you. And I addressed it more from a point of. Should he have been kicked out the game or other things? But when we're talking about the injury or how that even affected the game, you know what I mean?
And so I definitely, you know, could definitely see your word reckless. If I am. Any other team except this, I'm fighting, saying if this were us, if this were us, this would happen.
So, as a league two, you don't want to seem like you have an agenda, which is a young, exciting team going forward.
So, I definitely see how you can see that play. And if I'm Miami, and I think Eric Sposter is one of the classiest coaches in the game, but he didn't pour. The fire that maybe should have, or the gasoline on the fire that maybe should have been poured because he was so classy, and I think that's kind of. set the tone of expectation for everyone. But when you look at his injury and the fact that their best player was out, yeah, you know, I I I think reckless is a is a is a good way to put it in in the game.
But also I think the the it's on the refs. You know what I mean? Like, he could be the one to file 50 people if no one calls it. You know, then then what are we supposed to do? Yeah, I know.
I don't know. Maybe just because I'm a football guy, the visual evidence is there. It shouldn't matter if it was a play or two later. The minute you see it, you got to stop it. And you got to at least give a flagrant.
You got to at least give a flagrant in the middle. Rich, I'm with you. But since you did that, I got two examples. That was a catch by Megatron. That was clear.
We saw that.
Okay. That's a 10-year-old gripe, man. Speak John at Seaweb. That's a 10-year-old gripe. Speak on it.
I mean, I'm just saying. And then didn't something happen with New Orleans like four years ago with the DB on the play or in the NFC title gig. Oh, okay. I mean, I love football.
So I'm just saying, you know, it's across, you know, about 50. I like it. You want to bring up the Millen Man March too, Chris? I mean, my gosh. I know you were.
I know you were. In Detroit back in the day. Oh, that's so funny. I was in Oklahoma State. I was in Oklahoma.
And you know, I had to go buy Billy Sams ribs, too. Sure, of course. Billy Sams. I love it. I love Gary Danielson.
I think he was on BSP for a while last week. I know, for sure. Seeing the Warriors kind of turn back the clock last night was fun. You know, and I'm I just don't know. And obviously we we know Charlotte's pretty damn good too.
Um and we'll see who emerges um between you know Charlotte and the magic here, but The eight seeds are just going to have a really difficult time. You could say the same thing about, again, I know the Blazers with Abdia coming up with 41, and they've got to be feeling good about themselves, and the Sixers taking on the Celtics. I'm looking hard to see where we could see any first-round upsets here, C-Web. Yeah, as you know.
So if I'm the Knicks, I'm not taking the Hawks lightly. They're playing with house money. And the energy behind a new team, you know, when you hit a different stride. Whether it's because of turmoil and you've gotten through it, or whether it's because new players come at the second half of the year, that is an energy that really can't be measured. You don't know how that's gonna go toward the games.
And so I think their coach is one of the most underrated coaches in the game when you talk about strategy and thought process. And I think the energy and excitement. And maybe the pressure.
Now, of course. You know, these guys in New York, they're used to pressure. I'm not saying that. But if they win, you know, lose the first game and are going to sweep the rest. Between that first and second game, it's going to be, you know, doomsday.
So, you know, they don't have kind of the luxury of recuperating as far as mentally as some other teams, like a team in Sacramento when I was there when we all believed, or a team in Oklahoma State when, you know, they have to have full context of thought because they're not used to having that expectation.
Well, the wick on the candle is really short there in New York, and you start hearing, you know, whispers and comments early. And so that's a little bit of a different pressure plan there. And so if I'm a team like the Hawks, I'm definitely trying to take advantage of it because it's no pressure on the Hawks. And sometimes that's the worst team you want to play if it's no pressure and they're motivated to get their best. Is there one in the West, maybe?
Isn't it wild that the Lakers, despite having a better regular season record, having home court advantage, that the injuries I imagine would make them The underdog in that series, right? That you got the Timberwolves taking on. The nuggets? Where do you see a surprise in the West potentially, if any?
So, you know. First of all, I think that Jokic is the best player in the NBA. I'm not saying that he's the MVP, but I think arguably He's been the best player. And I think their team is great. I think they have a wonderful coach in Ottoman.
But I think that Minnesota is a bad matchup for them. I just think that that is something where that could be upset alert. Why is that? What's the bad part to match up for you?
Well, when you look at Ant-Man, what he does in the game, when you look at the fact during the playoffs, each play condenses, you don't get it as many fast breaks. The number of plays condenses, you don't get as many fast breaks.
So, therefore, Jokic is going to be itself and wonderful.
However, if you can get out with your athleticism, if you are Minnesota, if the big fella who you really don't need to score as much, the Stifled Tower, you don't really need him.
Now is when he makes his value in a playoff game where he gets one important block. And so, I just, you know, I like their pace. I like their attitude and their will. And those are kind of the teams with great home court support as well in Minnesota. You just, you know, they always say it doesn't start until you.
you know, till someone loses at home.
Well, in this one, it, you know, it could vary You know, easily happen early. And so I just think their wings of the way they play and potentially how high Ant-Man can get is really going to be a problem. I got to be honest with you. I've never heard Rudy Gobert. Referred to as the Stifle Tower before that is off.
I thought that was his nickname. That's amazing. Pretty good. That is great, though. That is, I know, awesome.
I thought, yeah, I thought that was. No, that's that's I've never heard that before.
So maybe I'm still there from EJ. Maybe I'm still there from Ernie Johnson. I heard someone say it a million times. Stifle Tower is standing. All right, see you.
It's great to see you. It's also awesome to see you. Do you have anybody you want the Lions to take next week? Is there something you You know what? No, I trust our office.
I trust our coach. We like kneecaps. He's serious. I like it. I'd like it.
You know what I mean? So, no, I'm ready, baby.
Okay, I love football season. Let's go. You're referring to Megatron. Basically, I think he caught it against the Bears, right? And then he's going down to the ground after, well after everything's over, but it still was in the era of Des Bryant, and they hadn't made the rule changes yet.
That was a catch, but based on the silly, stupid ass rules the NFL was employing at the time. I understand what happened. Chris, but I love you still stuck on it. Oh, yeah, I'm mad. And my friends are the DVs, because I always think I'm a wide receiver at tight end, so I talk junk to these guys all the time.
All they keep bringing up is New Orleans.
So, you know, I think we have to go that way too. Shout out to Wayne Fonce and all he's done for all he's done for our organization. Oh, my God. Eric Hippo mentions are right around the corner. Kept going.
That's good. Herman Moore. Ball. Let's go. Let's go.
Good to chat with you, Chris. We'll see you soon again. See you soon. Pete drafted. Right, keep going.
Let's go, baby. Here he goes, Chris Weber, everybody. Check out the Chris Weber show, everybody, where you get your shows and podcasts. as well as the YouTube channel. For all that stifled tower.
What do you think?
So he he named the two six seeds. The two six seeds. Yeah. Have you done the Cooper bracket? I did do the Cooper Brackett.
Have you done any non-chalky maneuvers? Yeah. Hold on, let me tell you what you're doing. I consider the Rockets beating the Lakers as chalk, by the way. You do?
Yeah, you don't? Right now they're the five C. I understand that. Yeah, I have Thunder Rockets, Nugget Spurs. I have Nuggets over Thunder.
Is that an upset to everyone? I think it would be, sir. And then I have Hawks over Nick's. And Celtics over nuggets in the fire. Is that because I put the Knicks over the Celtics in my purpose?
Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. I don't know what's more offensive. Having the Nat of the Celtics. Or the password for the Fantasy League, as created by my son, is Rich is Bald.
It's not even dad is bald. Like, he's straight up covering rich. Does he call you Rich around the crib? He has gotten, he's now 15, sweetheart of a boy. But he has begun to have the temerity to call me Rich or even worse.
Richard. No. Dicky? No. Oh.
Oh. His mom, Susie, Oh, no. You better put that boy in his place. No, no, no, no, no. I don't care how big he is.
He is on occasion.
Okay. Coop, listen to me. Referred to his mother by her first name. You're never too big for the belt, TJ. Cooper, look at me, dog.
You know you're my man. I know you're getting big. That's why you think you could test your pops. Because you're like 6'3. It's done in tongue-in-cheek.
Tongue-in-cheek, but he has chosen on occasion the wrong time. Yeah, no, Coop to do it. Coop, no. You know, I wonder if that's a middle child thing because my brother does the same thing to our mom. Is that right?
Yeah. Could be. Like, I call my mom her first name, but only on the telephone. No, I would not ever call my mom her first name, ever.
Well, he's done that. Wow. Yeah, see, he does that too. But, you know, look at you, Rich. You're a big, passionate Laker fan.
That's the way you would do it.
Well, that's pretty funny, actually. You're letting him hang out with Brockman too much. That's the problem. That's pretty funny. But come on.
Dropping an okay Susie on his mom is that's playing with death, Cooper. It is. You're going to give five across the face. On behalf of Cooper, we're rolling our break. In a world in need of a hero, one man rises to the challenge in style.
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844-204-Rich. Let's try Jeffrey in San Francisco again. I think it was on our end that was an issue. What's up, Jeffrey? I apologize.
Hey, Rich Eisen. How are you doing today? Hey, buddy. What's going on? Hey, real quick, I just need four quick opinions from RES Consulting, David.
All righty? Yeah. The first one, I need you to work with TJ. Because my question is: as a beloved, longtime Ravens fan, is my football team in the midst of a heel turn? Because it feels like a heel turn to me.
No, it's not a heel turn. It's not a heel turn. I agree. Not a heel turn. You're going to love your new coach.
You're going to love your new coach. The defense is going to be absolutely better. I'm nervous. You shouldn't be. Yeah, I wouldn't call that a hill.
You shouldn't be. You shouldn't be. All right, that was slippery with Crosby. What else you need? I I hear you.
I I don't condone it. But the new coach is 100% going to get the defense better. He's done that everywhere he's been. What else?
Alright, quick draft. Ah are you familiar with a player named Jamie Ding? Jeanie, okay. Ding, D I N G. Yeah.
Okay. D I N G.
Okay. No. Did that dude grow up in witness protection?
Okay. Okay. I don't know. Jamie Ding? The only guy I see here is a Jeopardy champion.
Okay. Oh. Alright, hit the track. What else you want to know? What else do you want to know?
DTF St. Louis? I have indeed. We just found no spoilers. I have two F's.
Powerhouse. Powerhouse. All right. Can you rank the performances Bateman, Harbor, Cappellini? I won't rank him, but I think David Harbour in that show is stupendous.
Agree to agree. And I agree to agree. He was a master. I felt really bad for him. What's the last thing?
Yeah, what else do you want to know? Um what was the last night? Oh, golf fight, Rich, golf fight. We got Jeff from NBC golf fighting with some dude named Jim from CBS Golf. I don't know.
South America. All right, Jeffrey, it's San Francisco. I don't know who. I was getting a little concerned about the Jamie Ding thing.
Well, no, he's a Jeopardy champion. I'm sure there's a historic winning streak, apparently. Oh. So. All right.
I did not know that. Yeah. So he's legit. He's won 11 and 10. He's so good, he wouldn't refer to me as a what.
Right? He would refer to me as who. That's how good he is if you add the game for it. And by full name, Not what is Eisen. Yeah, what is Eisen is just.
What's Eisen? Yeah, what's Eisen? Rich Eisen is right. Thank you. Oh, one of my favorite drops.
All right. Bob Odenkirk's in our green room. That will end very shortly. I'm so excited to talk about his new film, Normal, and then everything else that he's done. We're excited to have him here in studio in hour number three.
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