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March 25, 2026 3:10 pm

The Rich Eisen Show discusses the pros and cons of NBA expansion, particularly in Las Vegas, and how it might affect the league's tanking problem. The show also touches on load management, roster building, and the challenges of balancing player health with competitive interests. Meanwhile, guest Dave Ogleton shares his experiences as a 'Dad Fluencer' and the origins of his popular dad jokes.

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Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air right here on Disney Plus, the ESPN app. 844-204-Rich. Number to die. We'll take some calls in a matter of moments. Dave Ogleton, whose new book, So Dad It's Good, is available now for pre-order.

He is a die-hard. Eagles fan In Philadelphia. I don't know if TJ's hearing me right. I heard it. I heard TJ.

Just, I rolled my eyes at first. He's known as a powerhouse. Dadfluencer.

So look forward to chatting with him. And so, you know, Chris, you and I will be able to Relate. I love Jay. You've got some stepkids, right? That, right?

And this has been great for you, TJ, and the fact that you don't have any children, but. He is roots for the Eagles, who is your daddy, right? Pretty much. Wow. Really?

That's good.

Okay. That's good.

I handle it.

Okay. That's good.

That was a poised comment. She's like, yeah? Yeah. He heard you that. Is that why I'm poised like this?

Yeah. Right? You know, I try to be on your side a lot, man. I don't know, man. Yeah.

BOYS! Counts! It does count. I see how you see how it down. Poised.

It's my day today. You know what I mean? It is.

Well, part of it. We'll see. Who knows? What do you mean, who knows? I don't know.

We know. We know nothing. Oh, is it is it Ohio State pr uh uh pro data day? Oh, isn't that lovely? Everybody's I thought it was my day name.

Now it's ruined. Yeah. Oh, by the way, congratulations to the cities of Vegas and Seattle. The NBA Board of Gov Governors say we're going to start talking about expansion. Oh.

to those cities. Yeah. What do you mean uh You're not going to, excuse me. It doesn't do it for me. You wouldn't go to an NBA game in Las Vegas, Nevada?

Why are we adding teams? Las Vegas had zero teams. Right. How long ago?

Okay. And now there's Football, hockey, baseball's coming. Is it working? It's the entertainment capital. of our United States, would you not say?

Are they just like the Chargers where it's just all away team fans at these games? What do you care? I don't know. I'm just going to the sport. You know, first of all, it's great for the people of Las Vegas, Nevada, and the surrounding areas.

There's already too many games during an NBA season.

Now we got more teams.

Well, maybe we should get more teams and fewer games. I hope that's the problem. How about that? That would be great. And also there's two NBA stories that are really going around right now outside of the actual competition that's happening.

This is one of them. Seattle fans deserve to get the Sonics back. End of story.

So let's move Memphis to Seattle. Like, let's reload. Why would you take that from Memphis? Like, let's move New Orleans. Let's move New Orleans.

We're watching March Madness get deeper and deeper and deeper. Every year.

Okay. And it's a money thing as to why some of these mid-majors don't don't get any further. Um, but you don't think there's enough to fill out an NBA roster? Of players? I understand that there's some terrible franchises right now.

But that that I think is just born out of poor management. poor coaching on top of the ability that there's incentive to tank. How many teams are currently tanking in the NBA? A third of 'em?

So now we're going to add two more to that. Or we have to change things around so it's not as easy to tank and that it might be easier to roster build. Can we do that? I don't know. The NBA is not.

uh deserved me to think that they pull it off. They have not proven. I don't know, man. I would definitely go to an NBA game in Las Vegas, Nevada. Yeah, I'm sure it'll be cool.

Okay, so what's your problem? You hate the tanking so much, and now let's add teams. But now, half the league is going to tank each year. I hope not. Let's figure that part out.

How does that sound? We're smart enough. Again, we're smart enough, let's figure it out. I do not have faith. Going to g uh an NBA game in Seattle is going to be lit.

Fans there are going to be out of their skulls. They deserve it. They do. and let's move New Orleans to Seattle. Let's go to Matt in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Matt, you have two cents on this subject matter? Yes. My question to you, Rich, was kind of going off of what you were just saying, like do you actually think it's a good idea for the NBA to expand when the problem right now really is That things are tanking. Like, do you have? I think ten or eleven teams right now that are below five hundred.

The Pacers and The Wizards were on a sixteen game losing streak. Like you're adding two more teams that are not going to be that good. that are probably going to be tanking also. Do you honestly think that's going to be good for the league? Obviously, more tanking is bad for the league.

We just need to figure out, there's smart enough people in the room. You know, there's smart enough people in the room to try and figure out: let's come up with a different economic model where tanking isn't. Isn't viewed by teams as the quicker way to rebuild. Let's figure out a different way. of aprons and caps.

and player contracts and And trades to try and figure out a better way where tanking is an option one. For a ton of teams. And from all the NBA people that I have come across, they feel like there is going to be a model for that sort of thing. Let's figure that part out. Certainly now that we're.

Thanks for the call, Matt. A wash in more. television partner money. You know? Let's fix the whole load management thing too.

I don't know how we do that.

Well, they thought they had an answer to that by changing the rule, you know, that you got to play 65 games to be eligible for all these awards. But that's the conversation I want to have, too. Cade Cunningham has 61 games played this year. And then a freak Hit Punctures his lung. And Now He might not be eligible in a career year.

Yeah, in what world is he not a second team or maybe first team all in? It's ridiculous. And so because other teams can't be trusted to play their stars. Or other players or stars can't be trusted to want to play. Although everybody keeps telling me the players want to play, it's these teams and doctors and, you know, and.

And You know, analytics and sleep studies and all this sort of stuff. That causes players to be sad. Right? That now Cade Cunningham is going to. He's going to bear the brunt of not getting the kudos he deserves.

Another sign that your season is too long. Because why would he... come back for five games just for that purpose. Unless he does, it would be behoove him to play five games before the playoffs to get his. Sea legs and lungs back in the mix.

Unless that's not what he should do to get ready for the playoffs. You know, it's too bad. We found a loophole, and it's this man's lung. What the hell? That's not right.

Yeah, the way that we're gonna have to do it. that somebody just uses common sense and goes Let's give this guy an exemption. It's clearly not him sitting his ass down. On purpose. Right, in a weird way, maybe his injury will be the, you know.

The cost fixes. Which was unfortunate that that's what launches this thousand-ship situation. That's not right. It's all right, but there's enough smart people in the room to figure out all these issues here. And I know expansion isn't the You're diluting.

And also who's asking for it?

Well, Seattle fans have been asking for it. Dude, they have been asking for it since that team went to Oklahoma City. That's a fact. That's true.

Now, you might say Vegas is a different story, but Seattle fans, 1 million percent, have been asking for it. They've been asking for it. It seems to me this is a way to get. The bid fee is $7 to $10 billion. Of course.

Guess what happens? That gets cut up and goes right to the owners' pockets. That's what this is about. I think we need to be honest. And this is not part of the.

Revenue sharing? Oh, it's literally $10 billion divided by 30, right to their pockets.

Well, it's now divided by 31, I guess, right? I hate it. I I I understand. I understand. 'Cause Dolma needs the money.

By the way, Dolan probably doesn't have a problem with this. Hey, go to Vegas, see a game, go to the sphere. You know? Yeah, true. It's great for Vegas to have a sports team in every Major North American sport.

It's awesome. It's great. I think the draft should be there every two years. There should be a draft or a Super Bowl there every four years. Totally agree.

I mean, the draft was insane. The Super Bowl was great, but the draft was incredible there. It was great. There's hotels everywhere. There's restaurants everywhere.

There's entertainment everywhere. In Las Vegas. They were great. Yeah. in terms of rolling out carpets.

For the draft and the Super Bowl. Unreal. You know, the the the traffic on Super Bowl weekend was nuts. But it's Vegas. It's fan, but Vegas locals don't love when F1 comes.

And so now you're just adding a fourth team. Where are the actual fans of these teams?

Well, Sully in Las Vegas is here on the Rich Islands show. What's up, Sully? Sully's already mad at me. Yeah, he's mad at Chris already. Why?

Oh, we got a text message. This is our boy. Hello, Phelps. Hey, Sully, what's up, man? What's up, Sully?

Dear friend of TJ and Brockman's Rich, and I have a bone to pick with my dear friend Christopher Brockman.

Okay. Because that guy loves coming to Vegas. And when it comes to Vegas, we always have a good time. Maybe we Allegedly, maybe we play blackjack. Maybe we bet on some games.

That's fun. Maybe we can do some dinners. But listen. I need all four major sports teams. I agree with you, Rich.

I don't care who comes. I live here. I love going to a Raiders game when it's you know, maybe 60% visiting team. It's the spectacle of having pro sports. I can't wait for the Ace to get here.

I don't know if I'll go to that many games. I love going to the Vegas Golden Knights games. You're an all-time favorite. Bring the basketball team. Bring it off.

Bring it off. Bring it off from the draft. Yes. Bring a Super Bowl anytime. I get an excuse to hang out with TJ and Brockman.

Bring it all. What about Caratop? Brockman's so angry. Carrotop, too? Is there room for Caratop to say that?

I haven't seen Caratop, but he's got a 30-year run, so I think he's doing okay right now. It's all the other stuff. It's like, let's go to dinner, fellas. Get out of here. Let's go to dinner.

That's right. All right. Sully's bringing the thunder above. Under well done, thanks, sir. Thank you.

Sully in Vegas, I'm a big fan of the show. Thank you, sir. Thank you guys for all the positivity and a major part of my life. I love you guys. Keep doing that great.

All right, G. All right, there's Sully in Vegas. Dude, come on.

So let's not add, let's move someone. 30s is such a great number for the NBA.

Okay. That's my point. We'll find out, right? Because I think this is. This is just a, it's going to happen.

I tell you what's not going to happen is the number of games. They're not going to change that. They're not going to have less games. Yeah, I know. They're not going to tell the television partners that just gave all this money that there's fewer games to be shown.

I don't know what the answer is, though, man. It doesn't make sense, right? We talk about all these, like, you know. DMP coaches' decisions and people taking these breaks. Guys back in the 70s used to play 82 and more games wearing Chuck Taylors.

You ever try to play a game of basketball wearing some Chucks, no ankle support, they're flat? Like they went out there and played 82 to 95 games. Coach airline tickets. Yeah. They also were smoking.

They were haters at halftime. Like with all the advances in technology and training, these players should be out there way more than they are, man. They have every advantage. Yeah, well, that's why also Kareem used to welcome rookies to the league by Haymaker and Kent Benson. You know what I mean?

Well, Kent Benson elbowed him in the I understand in the gut. I remember that. I mean, at different times. Different times. But I do pick up the spirit of what you're saying.

I'm with you, too. Uh Feels like we could get to a happy medium. I don't know how. Do we get everyone together? I don't know.

We got everyone together and figure like have an NBA summit. Adding two teams, then let's play 70 games. That seems like such a perfect number. They're not going to take fewer games. We cut two and a half weeks off the season.

I don't know. Load management maybe would go away at that point. If you're legitimately injured, sure, I get it. I think we have to start with the economic model and the way that you can roster build and figuring out that to keep the competition as level as it can possibly be. between haves and have-nots if those really do exist.

And And at the end of the day, Um Disincentivize tanking somehow, some way. I don't know how that is. I think from that, everything can ripple effect in a positive way. Because I do look at the. March Madness tournament.

I'm thinking there's a there's a lot of There's a lot of players who can play very well. Just a couple of guys, yeah. You know? You've got a few on your side. I don't know who you're talking about.

Which team is this? The team you. Oh, okay. There's a couple. I'm going to book Dusty Mae this week.

Are you ready? Let's reach out to him. Reach out to him. I could text him right now. No.

But it's just saying hi, like way to go. No, I just sent it a little way to go. We don't need that. Hey, Dusty, we had Izzo on. We figure that you might want to represent the other side of Michigan.

That's fine. That's fine. I don't feel I'm putting a Ziggy on anybody. Hey, Dusty, do you got 10? Could you imagine?

I have them on, and then two days later they lose. Yeah, what's that like having a coach on, and then your whole season falls apart after?

Well, what would that be like? I guess you're just the mush, though. That's a you thing, not a me thing. Not a me thing. Literally, in the history of our show, the Patriots have won three Super Bowls.

That's not a me thing.

Well, I mean, Belichick. The Red Sox won the World War II. It took two years for Belichick to call into this show. The Celtics won it. We had Cora on, and you still won it.

I know. We've had Brad Stevens on. They want it. Jalen Brown's been on. I know.

It's just that one time. I'm like, I'm going to do something for your birthday. Let's have Dino Babers on, and then, boom. Nice of you. And then we had your current coach on last year.

And I don't, did they win a game after that? We were really bad with this. Why would I bother this man? He's unbothered by everything. Exactly.

So you think you can get into his head? Yeah. I'm not getting into anyone's head. I know. So let's have a look.

It's a me thing. It's not a him thing. It's a me thing. Oh, okay. If I have him or any Wolverine on and then suddenly they lose, it's definitely me looking in the mirror and saying, what the hell did I do?

I should have just like I've stood back. We haven't had him on all year. None of them. You don't think I want to talk to Jackson Lindenborg? I would love to.

Minutes out of their day. I'd love to talk with him and Morres. I'd love to talk to Cadeau. You know? If you make the Final Four, will we have them on next week?

Why would I do that then? They got a whole week. Think about this, Richard. We had Dusty May on when he was at Florida Atlantic and he went to the Final Four. You know what happened after that?

I thought that was probably 401. Rich, look at it like this. You are a notable Michigan man. I am. Thank you for saying that.

Maybe talking to these kids would hype them up, take them to the next level. We're like, oh, now it's on now. Rich Eisen had this on. What if we ain't going to do that man? That man, that man over there.

That man. Mm-hmm. Nose When I was given the honorary captaincy, he watched me talk to that team to Jim Harbaugh's Michigan Wolverine team in 2016. 2016, I have the video on my phone right though. He watched me, when I was done with that speech, he said to me, I think you blacked out.

Okay. Correct? Correct. Right. And then I got then I got on the field.

And then I was given instructions. Jim told you what to do and what to say. And then I blacked out. Completely forgot. Because I thought the captains would be the ones to do it.

And Jabrill. People here. Like, what? I would think, no, it wasn't Pepper. It wasn't Pepper.

That's Zach. That's Jake Bott. And, you know, and a handful of others. I'm going out there thinking, I don't know where I am right now. I have no clue.

And then when it came time to which way are we going, which direction are we going? Jake Butt looks at me and goes, What is it? And I realized, holy crap, I had one job, this honorary captaincy, and I'm blowing it right now. 100,000 people. I got to say, it was overwhelming.

It was overwhelming. On the field, and polite applause times 100,000 when I got introduced. I did my only thing they could possibly think of. I tipped my cap like I just pitched five scoreless coming out of the game. You're curtaining.

What you think of Birdie on 18? You're like, hey, hey, I didn't know what I was doing. I had no idea what I was doing. I was there, right there. I'm tipping the cap.

Honestly. Like, you just say that you walk off home. Yeah. I don't know what I was doing. I had lost my mind.

And I remember going back to Harbaugh who already had his hands on his knees, locked in on the day. Locked in. I think to myself, he's going to kill me. And then all he looked at me was: hey, nice old vases. But the reason why I bring all this up is then the game started.

Yeah. And you, dude, you were there. I was there. It was awesome. Didn't UCF like ripped off a 70-yard run to start?

Kind of early. And I thought to myself: what if we lose today? I will never be able to come back on campus here.

So I'm sorry, you know how I feel about you and how I feel about this program. It is so paramount to me professionally, personally, spiritually. But when it comes to this, We're not having the coach or the players on. No way. Know how until a net is cut.

What if they're like, man, not at all? Jisen was our boy. Like, he won't even know. That's not a good question. That's exactly what I said.

They are not thinking that at all. How do you know? I don't know, man. They are not thinking that at all. I appreciate you trying to get in my kitchen here.

I understand that. I thought he loved Michigan. You know what I would say? I'd be like, oh, he put the Spartans on his show, but he wouldn't put us on the show. He got Sparty on the show.

Yeah, he is. You know what they're thinking? Let's beat Alabama. That's what they're thinking. And if I'm like, hey, Dusty, you want to come on the show?

That could be 15 minutes where he has a Eureka moment on how to beat Alabama. And then all of a sudden, I'm watching that game. They're down a possession. I'm like, it's because I took him away from the meeting rooms for 15 minutes. You sound insane.

You sound crazy. Do I really? I mean, or do I sound kind of like you would? My name's not on the mug. I know that your name's not on the mug.

It's not in the church. But this is the crazy thing: this is the way you feel, not about Syracuse or the Celtics or about the Red Sox. It's how you feel about any old team you bet on.

Well, okay. See?

Now I'm talking his language. Yeah. You know. You don't have to be aware of that. There are only three teams that emotionally affect me.

I get it. The Yankees and both Michigan basketball and football. That's it. Everything else in my life, I am unbothered. You know, do I want him to win when I watch him?

Sure. Teams of my youth, sure. But at the end of the day, if it all doesn't work out, Head on the pillow, night, night. These three teams will keep me up.

So, no Dusty May, nobody on the team until it's all over. You could have helped put them over. No, that is not the way I choose to look at it. Whack. I'm just saying.

All right. Look, the phone lines are lit right now. This is amazing. It's half the money. Our fans in Vegas are just absolutely ready to roll.

Brockman, you should turn off your mentions, man. All right, let's bring our guest out. Dave Ogleton is about to join us right now. The Dad Fluencer in Chief coming up. Um The Rich Isis Show Podcast.

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So, Dad, it's good. It's the book and.

So that's, by the way, the one star for Dallas is like a rating for the team. I've never heard that one before. Yeah, it's not new, but I like to bring it up every once in a while, you know, just to remind them where they are. Kind of dig it. Oh, five to two.

Stop. Carl Anthony Towns was here on this program. He showed up in his Jalen Hurts shirt. And then kind of, you know, took a liking to TJ. I wish he hadn't.

Why is that? 'Cause I need flowers and he kept on with every single Eagles win over the Cowboys after that. See, Carmelo's one of those guys that, like, is uh I I love his Eagles fandom because he was a Nick. Yeah. I just.

I love him, but then I'm like, he plays the Knicks, and I know you're a Knicks guy also. That is correct. That one is correct for sure. You have flowers, balloons. Kept on sending them over and over again to teach you.

There you go. There's the flowers. The balloons are ranging. That's beautiful. That's a nice arrangement.

The best one was ever. I mean, it was. After the Eagles won the Super Bowl, he sent a mariachi band here to play Fly Eagles Fly. That's just a case of someone having too much money. He wanted to send a chorus here, though, to sing it, and we just couldn't get it off.

You saw me pop up and, oh, I see it. I see it. Oh, I love it. Yeah, the mariachi band. It was amazing that they always asked me.

You were in Dallas colors. Yeah. Great, too. That's TJ. Oh, TJ, you're still down.

Yeah. That wasn't a good day.

Well, anyway, let's talk about your title of Dad Fluencer. How does one become a dad fluencer? How did this happen for you? I don't even know how I became one. I think it was just kind of like thrust upon me by accident.

But no, I started doing content back in 2020, like a lot of other content creators did. And I did like the parent humor thing once I realized that I wasn't like a TikTok dancer.

Okay. And I started really diving into that. And then I got into the Dad jokes, and I started doing two to three every day, and they just started taking off. And I think, what was it at one point in? 2021, I think Will Smith had shared one on his page.

Okay. And I was like, All right, I'm done. I've reached the pinnacle of what I need to, as what I'm going to do, and I'm not going to get any higher than this. And I was like, I'm done. But I kept going from there.

And it's turned into a book, a show that I'm trying to produce. And it's just a lot that I didn't expect. And a lot of it just wrapped around just being a parent, honestly. And I always just go kind of back to that well because I have six kids, so I have a big well to pull from. Yes.

And, you know, I know I think you have three. I have three. Yeah. We have 17, 15, and 12. What are your ages?

Oh, God. Don't make me recite. 17.

Okay. Just turned 15, my oldest son. And hold on, I'm going to go down. 17, 15, 11. Eight.

Seven five. Wow. Nailed it. Yeah. Almost had your Antonio Cremati.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's their names. No, I got their name.

Names are sometimes they're a little close together in age, but we literally have every single grade, high school, middle school, elementary school, and preschool.

Okay. Just done preschool. Have we reached the point where you're having children just for the content? No, I mean, that was built-in basis. See, I can never be accused of that because our last one that we had was after I started my college.

Okay. So.

Well, no, but that's the point. Yeah. Is that now you're seeing how successful it is that you got to stay fresh. Keep that walking children. Yes.

That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's a commitment. Yeah. But if things are going so well for you here. I think we just go through, I feel like we go through every stage of their ages every day.

It's not even like it's like every week. It's every day.

So it's constantly like if something happens and it doesn't matter how like traumatic it is. Is or even if it's something that's not so much sensational, I can turn it into something that's funny because I know other parents are going through it. No doubt. And that's the relatability of it. And I think honestly, that's what makes it so easy for me to do on such a daily basis.

So you turn the eye rolls at home into bank rolls. Is that basically what's happening right now? Yeah. Because, I mean, your material flopped at home and you're like, I think this can work. My stuff never works at home.

It never works. It never works at home. It works because they're not my audience. That's why. But if it doesn't work at home, that means it's a good day.

It's a good, exactly. It works. Exactly.

Like, if they laugh, you'd be like, wait a minute. That's not. No. Hold on a second. Yeah, no.

Yeah. But no, like I said, it's with the dad jokes, if it doesn't work. then it probably will work. Right. And even with the parent humor, like if they're like sitting there like, come on, don't like what really, like, you're going to put, and I'm just like, listen, I know other parents are going through it.

You know what I mean? So like, and I'm not going to mention names or anything. But like, but now it's like my oldest is like, okay, but they're going to know who you're talking about. That's right. Now they're threatening you.

Don't use it as you are going to know who you're talking about now at this point. Your children need to basically say this is off the record. Yes. Yeah. But it's all working.

Yep. It's all working. And they know they're getting smarter, especially the older ones. They're like, you know, a lot of the brand deals and stuff that I do now, if they're going to be in it, they're like, okay, cool. How much am I getting paid for this?

There you go. And I'm like, oh.

Okay, yeah, hey, that's fair. I was like, listen, you're doing just as much work as I am.

So, you know, but I thought it's a dictatorship at home. It's not a collective history. Not anymore. Unfortunately, not anymore. They've caught on.

Certainly if they're if they're providing content. And you are honing your workshop. Yep. I get it. Sometimes they will even give me ideas.

My wife gives me a ton of ideas. I mean, like I said, so it's not always just me.

Sometimes I'll have like, you know. Brain cramps. And you know, I'll come to her and she'll just be like, Oh, this is funny. This is funny. This is funny.

Okay. And even my kids, they'll say something, and I'll just be like, Oh, that's like my notes in my phones for the ideas that I have that I haven't done are just days long at this point. See, my wife is very collaborative. I mean, she sits in this chair as a guest host.

Okay. We are, we're, we're partners in life, partners as, you know, in production and whatever. My problem is, she doesn't think I'm funny. That's my wife. But she's like, if your wife is saying, this is funny, this is funny, that's funny, you're ahead of the game, sir.

Well, so we, a lot of the content that we make, when we, her and I don't do a lot of content together, but when we do, If you just read the comments, people want to see her more than they want to see me. It's all callers like that. Oh my goodness, I mean, they're constantly. They're like, we need more Jackie in this. Like, we need more.

And I'm just like, okay, all right, guys, I get it. I'm like, I'm not, I don't look like her, like, you know, but I was like, I'm getting there. All right. I love it. I love it.

Dave Ogleton here on The Rich Eisen Show.

So dad, it's good. Prevail available for pre-order right now. The book will be available wherever you get your books on May the 12th. Do you have what's the original dad joke for you? Do you have one that started at all?

Oh, I mean, for you? One that I did online is. What was it? The it was a joke about fish getting high. And I forget, well, I forget the exact verbiage of it, but it ended in seaweed.

And, you know, so you can kind of put two, you can put both two and two together. But it was, you know, listen, a little blue for majors. Yeah, you know, so, but that one took off, and I did that joke, and it went viral. And it was my first like big viral video that I did.

Okay. And then I started doing other content and it wasn't working. And I went back. And I looked at my content two months previous and I went, why am I not just doing more of these dad jokes?

So I started doing them every day. I would do two times a day, three times a day, and it just started blowing up. And it allowed me to have a piece of content that I knew was going to work while still honing my craft of the other comedy content that I was doing.

So, what makes a great dad joke? Oh, I mean, when it's the brevity of it, the pun? What is it? There's a few different things. It's the timing of the joke.

It's the reaction from your kids, if you say it to them. That's like the best part about it. If you get the eye roll or the groan, and that's one of the main reasons why, like, I love, I love being able to get that reaction of just like, oh my goodness, come on, seriously. Like, not any more of this, you know? And if I can get that out of a pun or a dad joke, I'm.

I'm happy.

Okay. Yeah. What's your favorite one? Oh man. I don't know if it's my favorite one.

My favorite, I have a couple. My favorite, like, dad saying, like, dad, dad-ism is like the whole. Stud finder. I love the stud finder. That's like my that's always the go-to.

I think it's hilarious for some reason. And then there's one I always say: why does Peter Pan never tell dad jokes? Because they never land.

Okay. You're welcome, Disney. Perfect, by the way, from Disney Class, right there.

Well done, because they never land. They never land. I used that one tonight on my 12-year-old. I always have that one in the whole story. Why does Peter Penn never tell a dad joke?

Because they never land.

They never land. Okay. Yep. See, it's, you know, the brevity one. Like, I have some hit written down here.

I just got hit by a can of soda, but I think I'm okay. It was a soft drink.

Now, by the way. Is that a courtesy laugh? No, that's no, that's all right.

Now, now that's that's that's a little too long, though. No, I mean, like, no, it is, it, it depends on the situation. And it honestly, like, I think my thing is, I think the best delivery for a dad joke is when you don't expect it. When you're in mid-conversation and you think someone's about to say something serious, and then it comes off with this extremely corny punchline, yeah. It just, it, and it, and especially if it's like a serious conversation, it just brings the entire thing down.

Yeah, what color is the wind? Blue. Blue. Okay. Did you is that?

Did you really? Did you really get caught right there? That just got.

Well, I thought there was going to be more. No, it's just right there. Nope. What side of the tree is the most branches? The outside.

See, now that one. I The brevity one that's the button comes unexpectedly.

Well, what's brown and sticky? What? A stick. Did you guys know that dogs can't operate MRI machines? Why?

But Catskin.

Okay. Cat skin. But he's not a dad, though. You know what, though? I'm an uncle and a godfather.

He's in training. All the matters. He's in training. No, I didn't know. Are you in training?

I didn't know that. Training for what? I mean, what's like maybe going through the motions, but not in training. In training, yeah. No, I'll stick with the uncle and the godfather.

Do you know who your daddy is? Like Like for real? The Yankees? The Eagles.

Okay, these guys. Yeah. Wow. Your defense. Oh, wow.

Okay. Yes. You know, this is great. I bring up Dak's record against the Eagles, but then you can. I mean, I can just talk about the Super Bowls we've had in the last year.

Oh, that's great. It took you 52 years to win one. Sure. Awesome. I will get into it right now.

And this is a guest, TJ, who had a bad Uber experience to get here. Let's treat him. No, I love it. Listen, being able to crap on the Cowboys is one of my favorite pastimes. You know what I mean?

Likewise, for the Yardbird Iggles. Fit Dad CEO on Instagram, Fit Dad on Facebook. I mean, you're killing it. You're just crushing it. Congratulations on all of that.

Thank you. And you're just out here promoting the book? You're on a promo tour? Yeah, promoting a book. Are you solo?

Do you bring your kids? No, no kids. We're going on, they're going on spring break next week.

So I was like, you guys, when I get back, we're leaving anyway. We're going on a Disney cruise when we get back. Oh, nice. I was like, no. My wife was like, I.

I'm not even telling her about the weather or anything out here because I called her I FaceTimed her this morning and I was like, I was like, this LA weather is like always crazy. It's always like gray in the morning and then all of a sudden it just gets blue. And she's like, yeah, is it? Is it? She's like, does it, is it nice out there?

Is it? She's like, you're having a fun. The degrees out here match Jalen Hurts' uniform number.

So, okay, so you got that. Yeah, because spring break is the ultimate March madness. It is the survive in advance. Yes. Just got to get back, get them back to school.

That's all. Yeah. And they're all home. None of them are in college yet.

So our oldest goes to college in the fall.

Okay. So she's the first, first one out. And yeah.

So it's kind of her last, her last like spring break. You're losing your audience. I know. One by one. Yeah.

Unless you keep having kids. No. Okay, Dave. No. Sounds good.

You know, Dave, you sell more books. That equals out to more cash. The house gets a little bigger. Maybe one. To fill some of those rooms up, but we're babies.

I don't know, right? But we're filling those rooms with babies, and that's just that's the Counterproductive at this point. That's right. He's just filling them with trophies with his trophy. That's all.

I just love this conversation so much. Look, I'm sure he's a Sixers fan, so we could probably get a Sixers fan? I am. Okay, he's a Sixers fan.

Okay, okay. He's also a Clippers fan, so hug it out. Hold on a second. You're a Cowboys fan, a Sixers fan from Altoona. Altoona, Pennsylvania.

From the Commonwealth. We're going to have to talk after this. I'm going to have to figure out how this all came to be. Yeah, suddenly the dad jokes aren't flowing. Yeah.

Okay, hold on. Let's see. There it is. Cowboys, Sixers, Seminoles, Nitney Lions, Penguin. Oh, you are the epitome of a Cowboy Six.

How about this one? How about this with Georgetown and Duke? And Duke.

Okay. Duke. It was the early 90s, man. Grant Hill and Alonzo Morning. I couldn't choose.

I'm going to start rooting for both of them. Clippers and Mets.

Okay. All right. There you go. Wow. You can't say I'm a bandwagon hopper looking at you.

I mean, listen, you're a Sixers fan. You can't necessarily be a bandwagon hopper. You know, I love the Sixers, but I wouldn't hop on that bandwagon. Problem is, he is a bandwagon hopper when it comes to the Cowboys. He hopped on that bandwagon in 1992.

Wait a minute, what? Yeah. No, I didn't. I mean, you're an Altuna. I was before 19.

Are you kidding me? It was Tony Dorsett was there when I became the Cowboys hopper. Oh, I know. And we stunk. I just, I'm now smearing him.

Yeah. I appreciate it. It's called content. Yeah. I smear my.

Colleagues, you have children. That's the way we handle our content creation. The original Dad Fluencer here, Dave Ogildon at DadFit CEO on Instagram. Give him a follow. Check him out on TikTok.

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Come on out here anytime. Yeah, thanks. Send flowers, send balloons. And a mariachi. And a mariachi.

Dave, you know, a skeleton walked into a bar and got a beer in the mop. What happened?

Okay. Are you just googling daddy? You know, I've had these on debt for a while. This man out the door. I think his car is waiting.

Good to see you. Thanks, sir. Thanks so much. Apparently, Joe Flacco's making jokes too. That's next.

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I feel like I need to clarify my stance on this.

Okay, we'll get to that in a second. Hello.

So, okay. 844-204-RICH is the number to tolerate in the program. I don't know. Uh all right. Um Joe Flacco has spoken.

Flacco. Joe Flacco has spoken, ladies and gentlemen. Love it. And he's back. Yeah, dad jokes.

Speaking of dad jokes, he went back to Cincinnati. Three years could go back to six million. Listen, wow. He he he he knows that if he shows on the field for the Cincinnati Bengals, We're going to spot somewhere else. Means Burroughs hurt.

Oh, yeah. But it's also a better plan, I guess, based on last year. Even though I don't think, did he win a game there? I don't know if he did. I don't know.

Everything went sad. I don't know. He won one game. One other game.

So, anyway, long story short, this is what he had to say upon his arrival again. I feel like I have unfinished business as part of why I'm still here and playing and doing all those things. And not being one of those guys to go sign somewhere, yeah, it pisses me off a little bit. But But at the same time, like, I'm very happy to be here. And that's also why I don't see this as the end.

Like, that's just not how I'm viewing it in my mind. I feel like I can help a team win. And yeah, it may be in a different role here, but I do still think I can help. this team win in that role. Um I had a lot of fun with Joe, and Joe's the guy.

Um And believe me, I wish I was a guy somewhere. And I think teams are dumb for not having me be that guy. But it is what it is. I still I'm not gonna let me I'm not gonna let them or it get me down. I'm gonna be the person I am and just approach football the way I always have.

Wow. No dad jokes. Good for him. Yeah, no dad jokes right there. I guess we just old dad joked out, huh?

Okay. We'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow. I got a better sense of everything going on. All right, before we take off, let's go to. Let me get the right one here.

Tom in Las Vegas. Let's go. Line one. What's up, Tom? Hey Rich, how you doing?

What's going on?

Okay, I live in Las Vegas, born and raised, and I'm about your age, so I've been here many years. And when the Golden Knights came, we were ecstatic, man. They're a brand new team, and we could jump on board the hockey. None of us had affiliations with any hockey teams or whatnot, so it was great. Then the Raiders come, five thousand people are ecstatic that the Raiders showed up here.

Rest of Las Vegas, yeah, you know, NFL's kinda cool, but you know, not Raider fans. Then they bring the A's in, same thing, the twenty five hundred A fans are going to be really happy. But the NBA and expansion team, we can get behind that. I mean, we Vegas can get behind that. They'll support their new teams.

Okay. Just when you bring the old ones in, that retreads, it's just not, we get too many other teams coming in and taking over the stadiums.

Okay, Tom. I appreciate the two cents right there. You want to clarify what you're saying? I get that. I'm not saying that Vegas isn't a great sports town.

I'm just thinking the NBA shouldn't expand. Yeah, I just think it's more of an NBA take for me that the NBA.

Well, as you said, you should rip the hearts of fans elsewhere to give Vegas a team. Die Hard New Orleans is where are they? John in Lake Tahoe, California. What's up, John? We'll give you the last word.

Got about 30 seconds. What's up, John? What's up, John? You guys do a great job. Thanks, guys.

The Raiders leaving Oakland is the biggest travesty in the NFL. They had the greatest home field advantage. We had tickets. Nobody wanted to play in Oakland. That's the saddest part of them moving to Vegas.

Just like the guy said. 5,000 people so I think that's something else. I had beers with Jack Tatum twice. And he said if you come in our backfields, you best be wearing a black jersey.

So.

Hopefully, they're going to bring some of that back. All right, John. Thanks for the call. I'm going to see you in July right around there in Lake Tall for the American Century Championship, everybody.

So that'll wrap up this edition of The Rich Eisen Show. We'll chat again on Thursday. Carlos Boozer is going to join the program. Talk about his kids. Let's go.

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