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Good to see you, Jeff. How are you? This is my first time on since you've come back home, isn't it? I think it might be. I don't know.
It might be. It could be. It is. Listen, Jeff, my first question for you. On a scale of one to ten, With one being ecstatic and ten being out of their skulls ecstatic, Major League Baseball is what after this World Series?
Jeff Passen. I would say probably an eight. And yeah, how can you be anything but ecstatic after that World Series? It was just, it was the culmination, Rich, of an October that to me illustrated and displayed everything that's great about baseball right now. You had stars performing at historically great levels.
You had individual and team performances that were beyond expectations. And you had more series than ever go the distance, including the World Series, which I I've covered 22 of them now, I believe. And it's hard to say that any of them have been better than this one.
Now, I was still in college back in 2001, and certainly that one gives 2025 a run for its money in terms of this century. And my first World Series was 2004. Historically, that was a big deal. 2016 had an awesome game seven, and the outcome with the Cubs winning for the first time in more than a century was great. But just in terms of like, Tour baseball and the things that happen in the series, and the quality of the games, and the players who are involved.
It's really tough to beat this year between Los Angeles and Toronto. Yeah, and at one point, I think I posted out, Jeff, that this World Series ran out of things I'd never seen before. And there's two moments that will live, I think, in nightmare fuel for Blue Jays fans until they get a chance to win it again and actually pull it off. I kind of want to. Pick your brain on the backstories of it or what people are talking about it.
And the first one was that moment in game six when Barger. Hits the ball in the, and talk about game of inches, it wedges in between the bottom of the padding and The warning track. And there's a lot of talk about how this should not have been a dead ball. This should have been everybody keeps running. And instead, this was improperly called a ground rule double and dead baseball.
What's the scoop here on that? Jeff. I think it was the right call. I mean, you saw that photo. If you guys can bring that back up again, just look at the way that the fence has moved.
There's a little indentation at the bottom, and part of it has been pushed up. And was it wedged to the point? where Justin Dean could not have reached in, grabbed it, pulled it out and thrown it back. No, it turns out. But I don't think John Tompaigne, who is the umpire in left field, could make that determination from his position.
What he saw was a ball that looked like it could be stuck there. And in the moment, you have to make a judgment call. And the judgment call that he made there was that it was a dead ball and that it was an automatic two bases for Addison Barger. And it's, you know. You talk about a game of inches with football.
Baseball feels like a game of millimeters, man, because, in addition to that, In the ninth inning, bottom of the ninth, in game seven, the difference between Isaiah Keiner Falefa's foot hitting the plate. And that one spike on the bottom of Will Smith's shoe going down and touching the plate, I mean, it was. Yeah, you see it right there. Like one spike. That is the difference.
Between the Los Angeles Dodgers remaining alive and eventually winning the World Series. And the Toronto Blue Jays walking it off and being World Series champions for the first time since 1993. Aaron Ross Powell, and Major League Baseball being the first major sport in this 21st century of instant replay awarding a champions. A championship decided on a reversal of a call of an umpire. That was in the ether.
As it was going down, and that's the second play I was going to bring up to you, Jeff. What is the backstory behind Isaiah Connor Falefa's lead? Off of third base, there's so much talk about there wasn't any. secondary lead and why he wasn't taking it. And then we all know his decision to slide foot first, not headfirst, not run through the plate when it was.
A force play, not a tag play. Jeff, what what's the back story that you heard about that one? There are a few different elements that we have to talk about here, Rich. And I think it actually goes back to game six and goes back to Addison Barger being on second base. And a line drive gets hit out to left field.
Kiki Hernandez charges it. Barger makes a bad read, gets too far off the bag, and gets doubled off to end the game. And I think that sort of thing informs just how conservative the Blue Jays were when it came to the ninth inning of the next game. And Isaiah Kyner-Faleff is on third, bases are loaded, and Max Muncie is a couple of steps off the bag.
Now, typically speaking, Hitters are told to take a lead about equivalent to the distance between the third baseman and the bag. With the idea being that if a line drive gets hit to third base and the third baseman snags it, you do not want to be further away from the bag and run the risk of getting doubled off.
Now, Dalton Barcio was at the play. Dalton Barcio does not hit the ball to the opposite field, doesn't matter where it's pitched. And so that wasn't quite as big a concern. But Carlos Fable is the third base coach for the Blue Jays. Walked to the line and put his right foot down and pulled it back while still on the ground, essentially saying to Isaiah Kiner Faleffa, This is where you need to end your lead.
And it was not as far as Max Muncie, they were playing very conservative at that point. But beyond just the potential for a double play, is the potential for a back pick, too. If you take a larger secondary lead, Will Smith could theoretically throw behind and try and pick him off at third base. That being said, the lead is as egregiously small as it was. That's not the issue.
It's the slide. But Guys, play on instinct, Rich. And your instinct from all of the reps that you've had throughout your career is going to be to slide into home plate and not to run through.
So, the question of should he have slid headfirst as opposed to feet first? Yeah, that's reasonable. I get that. But man, it's just such a hard thing in the moment. And yet, Those very minuscule decisions that are made in the moment are the differences between a championship.
And an absolutely heartbreaking loss. And then you know, you want to talk instinct, Jeff Pass, and Dave Roberts' instinct. My goodness, his spidey sense in games six and seven in particular were off the charts. Uh why did he decide in the middle? of the ninth inning with Yamamoto on the mound to insert Andy Pajas into center field because after this IKF play came the moment that I will never forget.
Kiki Hernandez will never forget. Dodger fans will never forget. Why was Pahez inserted? when he was. Before I answer that question, did you know That Kique Hernandez, when he was laying face down on the warning track afterward, do you know why he was face down like that?
Go for it. He thought that the ball had fallen. And he thought that the World Series was over. And Pa has said to him, What are you doing? And Kikai said to him, We lost.
And Pais was like, no, we didn't. Didn't that break? Unbelievable. We did not. The answer.
Um is because with one out. And the potential for a sacrifice fly to end the World Series, Dave Roberts understood that he needed his strongest armed outfielders out there. And so that's why Andy Pajez, who has a tremendous arm, came in because, and they were playing relatively shallow, right?
So that's, you know, that's why you saw when they were going back the way that they did, why that Ernie Clement drive to the left center field gap was as tenuous as it was. But yeah, it was, it's knowing your personnel. And it's understanding that every little maneuver that you make. Can add a minuscule sliver. Two-year win probability.
And in this case, the minuscule sliver turned out to be an absolutely enormous, enormous. Boon to the Dodgers championship hopes.
So you're saying he was brought in for the possibility of throwing someone out for a second out that was IKF anyway. And he just happened to throw out the third out. He was just in the well, this would have been throwing him out.
So let's say with one out that instead of Dalton Varcho hitting a ground ball to Miguel Rojas and Rojas corralling it and throwing home to get IKF, let's say Varcho hits a fly ball to center field. You're going to have a play at home plate then. It's going to be a different play. That play at home plate was a forced play, but if you have a fly out before that, then you're going to have a tag play at the plate, and you'd better have a perfect throw home if you're going to get kind of false.
So, an 8-2 World Series saving out as opposed to a 7-4 double play that forces a game seven on a broken back to walk it off. Again, this World Series brother. Unbelievable Rojas was in it also. In it all, right? I mean, in that pick, and he was in, right?
He was in because Andy Paheus can't hit. I did. Like, Paj had been in the lineup games one through five in pretty much every other game. And the Dodgers' versatility is what helped them here because Tommy Edmond, who they had kept out of center field because of a lingering health issue, they were like, you know what, lingering health issue or not, we cannot have Pajas's bat in the lineup anymore. And that's precisely why Pahez was on the bench, available to come into center field.
All right, Jeff Patson.
So, what's next for the Dodgers to three Pete? What rostering is first up, first order, anything? Or they're going to be able to run it back? What do you got for me, Jeff? They never run it back.
They always are looking to add. And the scary part, I think, for fans of anyone other than the Dodgers right now is not only are they returning Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Blake Snell and Tyler Glasnow and Shohei Otani to their rotation, not only do they still have Emmett Sheehan and Justin Robleski and Roki Sasaki, who, by the way, is still going to be a starting pitcher, River Ryan coming back. from major surgery, Gavin Stone coming back from major surgery. And what this allows is for the Dodgers, between that and their surplus of minor league outfielders, to go out and make a trade and try and get a big chip from somewhere. I don't know if that's a closer.
I don't know if that's an outfielder, but those are the two obvious places that they need to address. I do not think they're going to be heavy in on Kyle Tucker and free agency. I think that he's the sort of guy who they might approach in a similar tack to what they did with Bryce Harper half a decade back: like, hey, we'll give you a very high number on a shorter number of years. But Kyle Tucker, because of his age, because he understands this is his big bite at the apple, is much likelier to seek out, say, a 10-year deal or 11 or 12 years, one of the not quite Juan Soto level, but a contract of that ilk. More than a shorter-term, higher average annual value deal like the Dodgers would want.
Okay, because I was waiting for you to say this, this fellow Murakamo, who's been posted today, he'll just be the latest guy from Japan who wants to play for the Dodgers, willing to defer everything to 2042. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, well, you know, like maybe he wants to, where does he fit? The Dodgers just picked up Max Muncie's option. Murakami plays third base.
The Dodgers have Freddie Freeman at first base. He's not going anywhere. And they have Shohei Otani at DH. Murakami's probably not athletic enough to be an outfielder. He's much likelier to be an infielder.
So I don't know that the fit is there. But then again, if he wants to sign for below market value just because he wants to go to the Dodgers, then get out of here. There's a team in New England, Jeff, that has a whole At third base.
Well, Yankees, too, man. You're going to be kidding me. The Yankees have a massive, glaring hole at third base that I thought they were going to fill with the guy you filled it with last year, and Alex Bregnan just opted out.
Now you can get him. I botched the fella's name, Murakami. Munataka Murakami. Tell us about him, please. Tell us about him.
At 22 years old, Rich. He set the single season record in Nippon Professional Baseball. For home runs hit by a Japanese-born player, breaking a record that Sadaharu Oh had owned since 1964. Murakami has enormous power, the kind of power that dynasties have been built upon. And yet he's got a glaring flaw in that he swings and misses a lot and strikes out a lot.
He's a perfect Yankee. I mean, honestly, like Cashman's probably going all the way over there to personally, you know, bring him over on the Steinbrenner Jet. That sounds like a perfect Yankee, Jeff. It's really interesting to me, Rich. I'm curious to see how this offseason players who have.
Extreme bat-to-ball skills are valued by the industry, considering that the Toronto Blue Jays made the World Series in large part because of their ability to put the bat on the ball. And as a baseball fan, as someone who my whole life I have just adored this game. Man, I loved watching the Blue Jays play. What a fun team to watch. Not just because of the bat-to-ball, but because they were able to combine that with superior slug as well.
It shows the two are not mutually exclusive. If you're hitting the ball, you don't have to hit it soft. You can have your cake and eat it too. And on top of that, the defense that the Blue Jays played, like they were just a really fundamentally sound team. And Bobette's return, I think.
Did it a great service going into free agency this offseason, knowing that. He is not at 100% by any means. His knee was messed up. He was out for seven weeks and he came back and essentially looked like he hadn't lost a step. Playing a position that he hadn't played since when he was in the minor leagues.
I mean, it was just a phenomenal performance by him. And his free agency, you know, among Tucker and Frambra Valdez and Dylan Cease and Pete Alonso, you know, there are a lot of big names. Alex Bregman, like it's going to be a really interesting winter in terms of free agents and seeing where they land. And Bobette, to me, is near the top of the list of those interesting players because our team's going to want him as a shortstop where he was below average defensively last season. Are they going to move him to second or third base?
What does a guy like him who's, you know, his value is best tied to his ability to hit for average, right? And batting average is just not something, generally speaking, that's valued at a high level in Major League Baseball. And yet Bachette's also got slug. He doesn't strike out. There's more to it than batting average, but that's one of those components.
It's going to Be nice to see it get paid this offseason because I think batting average does still matter. Of course, it does. I'm with you. It was, they were a fun team to watch. You're right, the Blue Jays.
So, in the few minutes I have left with you here, as we're off and running on the hot stove, the four-letter word in many front offices, Boris, how will he hand how is he looming? and his clients looming, whether they're free agents or not, Jeff, over the next few weeks.
Well, I think it's going to be the next few months because, yeah, Rich, you're used to normal free agency where everything happens in the NFL at one time. Like, I was getting tweets yesterday, like, announce a signing. I was like, you guys don't understand how baseball works. Like, it's going to be a little while until we get the big signings. But Scott Boris, as in every year, has a pretty impressive roster.
Alex Bregman, Pete Alonzo, a Japanese pitcher. Named Tatsuya Amai, who you should keep an eye on, because Mai is really interesting to me in that he looks like a Yoshinobu Yamamoto starter kid. They are the same size at 5'11, and yet they both throw gas, you know, topping out at 99 or so. Mai's breaking stuff is very good. He doesn't throw a splitter.
Quite as much as Yamamoto does, doesn't rely on that, but he has been healthy. He has put up phenomenal numbers in NPB, and he's going to be another guy who's going to be a hundred-plus million-dollar pitcher. And it's going to be really interesting to me to see what the market for Japanese players, from Murakami to Amai, Kazuma Okamoto, like there's some real guys who could be coming over this winter. And the market for them is going to be super interesting to me because, you know, all the consternation about the Dodgers and the dynasty that they've built, there are organizations out there and owners especially who just want to chip away. At what the Dodgers have.
And the Dodgers' advantage in Japan right now is enormous to the point where we're joking, all of them are going to go inside with the Dodgers at this point. And yet, you know, that there are owners right now going to their general managers and saying, we need someone from Japan on this team right now, if only so we can get into this marketplace for down the road when players, you know, more players come over that were in consideration. And sometimes geographical elements factor in heavily. You know, a lot of guys want to stay on the West Coast because of the much shorter flight back home to Japan. Other guys want to go to New York because New York's New York.
And it's, you know, you can't argue with that. And yet, I think we're going to see some surprising teams this winter in on Japanese players just trying to get a foothold in that place that has produced as much talent as it has over the last half decade, especially. Yeah, good luck with multiple MVP in Otan. and the reigning World Series MVP in Yamamoto. Saying to anybody, hey, why don't you come here?
We're all comfortable. We're all having a good time. What about Scoobel? I know the Tigers would love to re-sign them, and you're hearing money that's. Definitely usually not very tiger-like.
What about that? How does that loom over anything? Jeff. Not only would the Tigers like to resign Tarek Schubel, Terek Skubel would like to stay in Detroit too. He really likes it there.
He loves A.J. Hinch. Chris Fedder and Robin Lund, the pitching coaches there, are excellent. And they're the organization that not only took a chance on him, but helped him turn into the best pitcher in the world. And yeah.
Tarek Skubel's a free agent after this season in 2026. And he is going to command, as long as he stays healthy, more money than any pitcher in baseball history. Right now, the number is $325 million for Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Skubel is primed to absolutely smash that. And if he's not going to agree to a long-term contract with the Tigers, and generally speaking, Scott Boris' clients don't sign extensions, especially this close to free agency.
There are exceptions, but by and large, that's the case. If you're the Tigers, you have to ask yourself the question: if we're losing him at the end of this season and all we're going to get out of it is a draft pick. then is it worth it potentially to consider trading him?
Now Where the tigers are at. In their aspirations, both in 2026 and going forward, it makes sense for them to move him. And yet, Trading a guy of that ilk is a really, really hard thing to do. As much sense as it might make from a long-term perspective, there are psychological elements that are involved with the fan base and with the organization and with the players in your clubhouse where it's like, if we're going to move this guy, then what are we doing? What's the point?
This is the person around whom you build to go and win World Series. And you're telling me that we're going to get rid of him after two consecutive years of postseason appearances? It seems like a silly thing to do. It seems like a frivolous thing to do. And that's the issue right now in Major League Baseball.
It's how many teams, Rich. If they were in this similar position, Would have the same thoughts that the Tigers are having right now. And the number, frankly, It's too high. It's unfortunate. And that's why there is so much consternation among fans when it comes to the economic system in Major League Baseball.
If you feel like the best thing for you to do, And not only if you feel like that, but if numbers and models tell you that the best thing for you to do. is to get rid of the star player. That you drafted, that you developed, that you helped turn into this monster that he is right now. What does that say about the sport? Yeah.
And then this will be for another time. Why make a deal if you're Schoolable or the Tigers if the collective bargaining agreement's elapsing and the rules can be completely changed and you have no idea how this contract fits into the future? of the sport. That's a fair thing. I mean, I'm just operating, Rich, under the idea that the economic system is not going to change demonstrably to the point that it would have any ill effect on the future of the Tigers.
But perhaps I'm just operating that way because I'm trying to be optimistic amid the labor strife that's happening right now. And that's going to be the story. Of the 2026 season because the collective bargaining agreement is up December 1st, 2026. Everybody in the industry is anticipating a lockout. A lockout in and of itself, not a great thing, not a terrible thing.
It's when a lockout starts bleeding into the next year and games are potentially missed that it turns tremendously problematic. We haven't seen games missed in Major League Baseball Rich in 30 plus years at this point. And as somebody who adores the game, I'm hoping that we don't see that streak ended. Certainly, off of a World Series that everybody is talking about and everybody watched, and two. different countries or three, obviously you include Japan.
Jeff, 50 million plus people, man. Like, isn't that amazing? Those are real numbers. Those are really impressive. Jeff, you're the best, man.
Thanks for the time. Really appreciate it. Keep looking for more of my texts and calls. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Can't wait, Rich. Thanks for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Passon right here on the Rick Jizzin Show. We spoke longer than we thought, but it's just too terrific talking to Jeff.
Well, he confirmed more economics coming in the midst. I did not know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Oh, okay.
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Learn more at Keys to Progress. All right. We just had a long chat with Jeff Passon. Dodgers just, you know, he says, run it back or acquire more and get some young players that they have in the pipeline that were hurt back, and good luck. Good.
Good luck. Oh, Tani's winning MVP.
Okay. Yamamoto w w is the World Series MVP. Yeah? He is.
Okay. Anybody from uh Japan want to come join? Come to death row.
So Dodgers are favorite for the World Series next year? Imagine that. Plus 350. And again, if there's going to be some sort of new monetary setup and how the league is run, why would you make a deal right now? But there's a lot of free agents available, and we'll keep an eye on it.
844-204-Rich number 1. We'll take your phone calls in a moment. But it's a Friday, which means it's time for what's more likely, hit it. B-Dun. What?
What's more likely? Never say never, but never. What's up, everybody? Happy Friday. All right, everybody.
Hey, maybe the marquee game on Sunday goes down in Tampa. Patriots bucks. Who's more likely to win a playoff game this year? New England, Tampa Bay. Uh Okay, but it was like.
I'll go Tampa because they think they're going to host one. At some point, you're going to have to lose a football game, Chris. And at that point, the bills will catch up. 15-2. That's what you're going to go.
You're gonna win 14 games in a row? Is that what you're gonna do? I mean, the Patriots have done that before.
Okay. All right. Yeah, I'll go Buccaneers. They're not a healthy team. I am aware of that.
Okay. But you're talking about a playoff game, right? Bucky Irving may never play football again at this rate. Is that a fantasy complaint or is that very much so?
Okay. Well, I would leave that emotion out of it and just say that right now. The Patriots are a half game in front of a team. that I think is way better. than the team that is two games behind the Buccaneers right now.
That's true. Or one and a half games behind the Buccaneers right now and two in the loss.
So the second place team is Carolina in the South. The Bills are the second-placed team in the AFC East, closer to the Patriots than the Panthers are to the Bucs. Do the math, which team is more likely to finish as a division winner and have a home playoff game? I would go with the Bucs right now. I don't think the Pats could go on the road anywhere.
Okay. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean you can't. You've been wrong about New England every step of the way this year, so I'm just pushing back. I understand that. During the Broncos' dreadful win last night, you're blowing me up on a text with Smitch, like you're in my comments on YouTube.
I thought you didn't read those.
Well, the Broncos at three in your power rankings looks a little silly today, no? It didn't edge well so far, but they won, though. They're eight and two. I'm looking at the standings right now. They're the one seed going into the rest of week 10, and I don't see any photographs on it either.
Broncos, 4 o'clock wildcard weekend, Saturday, book it. What else you got? Great game going on between the Rams and 49ers this week. NFC West superstars to have more total yards. Puka and Devontae Adams combined, or Christian McCaffrey.
Oh, I'll go two receivers over a guy who is accounting for half of their offense. Yeah, I'll I'll go Puka and Devontae combined. That's what I shall do. That's a monster film. I can't wait for it.
I can't wait for it. And Puka is a full participant in practice saying he's ready to go.
So that's good to know. Fourth window at football on Sunday as well. Should be a fun international game. Stud running back to have more rushing yards and touchdowns. Bajan or Jonathan Taylor?
I will go Jonathan Taylor. Bounce back. I am aware of that, and one of them has been more consistent since week one. And so is the team. I will take the Indianapolis Colts.
in Berlin and I will take the um The uh Guy who prior to last week, I thought was the frontrunner for MVP in the National Football League. And Jonathan Taylor having the bounce back game, sir. That's what's more likely there. Oh, that's a fun game.
So do I for the rest of NFL Network? Absolutely.
So let's talk AFC East here. More likely to be the greater value. Bills winning margin. or Brown's Jets total points. I'll go Brown's Jets total points.
Do you think they score more than last night's game? Um.
Well, that's 17. I'm worried about this game. This game might be 9-6. I'm just going to say that you always. throw out records in division games.
Perfect example was last night. I mean... Raiders showed up way, way more stout and buzzing around on defense than anybody thought. I don't care that the Broncos start slow. They just looked.
Like they were sleepwalking, and the Raiders' defense was definitely playing faster. And so Why can't the Dolphins do that as well? I'll just say that that game will be closer than you think and the Browns and the Jets will out. Point them. What else, Chris?
Well, I mean, it'll be, it'll be a, so the winning margin would be what, 20? If you think it's a blowout, and then the Jets and the Browns don't combine for 20. Yeah, I don't know.
Okay. Maybe. More likely traded player to come up big for his new team. Sauce gets a pick or Jacoby Myers gets a touchdown. I'll go Jacoby Myers gets a touchdown, certainly since.
Um Sauce Gardner And whenever, I mean, we talked to Pat Sertan. before the Jets Broncos game, and he was lamenting the lack of action.
So You know, like I think he feels like he gets dealt pocket aces every single hand, and everybody else is just folding pre-flop. Because that's the way corners who are shut down corners feel. That they don't get any action because they're so good, everybody just declines to give them action. Drake London's going to get targets.
So, Sauce, the fact that Sauce won't get a pick doesn't mean he's ineffective. True. And if Brian Thomas doesn't play, Jacoby Mars is going to get some targets, man. Yeah. So I'll go with Jacobi gets a touchdown.
Chris. What else? A few more here. Let's finish up. West Division more likely to get three playoff teams: AFC or NFC?
Mm-hmm. Mm. I'm getting concerned that the Chargers don't have any of their tackles left. And is Amarian Hampton ever coming back? Yeah, week 13, he's been.
Targeted for a while now. Um.
And the Niners keep on chugging along, and that's the team that you feel will eventually fall off because they're not starting their starting quarterback. And the guys keep getting hurt. I'll still go AFC. I'll go NFC West. NFC.
But I mean, boy, you're giving me something in week 10 to throw a dart at for two months from now, but. Um I don't know. Just don't hold me to it like you did in my power rankings within 24 hours. What else, Chris?
Power rankings, you regret those? No, I do not regret any of them. because they're dumb to begin with. Elite pass catchers more likely to have a higher receiving yards total. Yeah.
JSN. or Marvin and Trey McBride combined. Mm-hmm. Sneaky good game in Seattle. I'll go Harrison Jr., Trey McBride combined.
I'll do that. It'll be interesting to see if Raheed Shaheed cuts into because even JSN going 130 yards, 140 yards. That's 70 each from these guys. You know what? I'll just talk myself in order.
I'll go Jackson Smith and Jigbo. You know, the Seattle. He's on a base for 2,000 yards. I'll rely on the Legion of Zoom. And then the defense that's trying to become Legion of Boom.0, whatever it is.
Up there where the point O's We're created, right, up in Seattle? All those three versions, if you will. Right. I will go. I'll screw it.
Yeah, I'll go with Jason. Talk me into that. All right, two more, and stay with me on these. You really listen to what I'm saying. All right.
Okay. More likely, team a month ago, you would have most laughed at me for suggesting they'd have six wins and in the playoffs after week 10. Patriots and who? Bears and Panthers. Oh.
Could both get their sixth win and they're in the playoffs right now after week touch.
So I need to. You're saying which one's more likely to win this weekend? No, I'm saying which one would you have laughed the most if I said, hey, yeah, the Bears have six wins are in the playoffs. When they were. Not good.
I'd go with the Bears.
Well, the Panthers. Because I said the Panthers were the sleeper team coming into the season.
So I would say that that would be the one. Uh so yeah. You know, I like these to be more predictive than rear view mirror and predicting, but I'll go Panthers on that one. Which one's going to win this weekend? You know, I think they win against New Orleans at home.
And, you know, both of them win. Maybe they both do have it. Tet McMillan popped up today with a Hammy. What else you got for one more time? Last one, last one.
More likely to be the higher number. Steelers fans at SoFi Sunday night. Or The amount of dollars fined for guys double pumping after a touchdown. Rico had $14,000 for the double pump, right? Um I'll go.
There's going to be a lot of Steeler fans there Sunday night, buddy. I'm going. I'll be at the gate. Oh, nice. Yeah, I'm going.
Good one. Look at that. I'd love that. This is a great split screen. Guys are really doing that celebration now.
They're not the only team that's done that, though. New England does it. I've seen other people get out there on their keynote. I love it. Double pump.
And sir, let's go. I'll go number of Steelers fans at Sofa. That's going to be something. I'll report on that when we on Monday show. Herbie might have to silent count.
Maybe so. Maybe so. My top five other games that I'm looking forward to seeing that's still to come. We'll hit on the Raiders when we come back. Your phone calls 844-204-Rich.
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Jason and Phoenix, you're on the Rich Hisen Show. What's up, Jason? Hey. Hey gentlemen, thank you. Appreciate you.
Um Before I start, I just want to say I played basketball at Mott Community College in Flint, Michigan.
Okay. Draymond Green is from Saginaw, Michigan. If you know anything about Saginaw, everything Draymond says will make sense to you.
Okay. Yeah, with that out of the way. I want to talk a little bit about the Tigers, and then I want to say a little something about the Dodgers first. I like Jeff, you know, his, what's that word they say? Acumen.
Oh my gosh, he's so smart, Jeff. But he is part of the media, you know, the media likes trades, I get it. Um, Detroit's not a small market team. Does he know who the Illich family is? No, right?
Hey, listen, man. They had a five-dollar hot and ready pizza. No, I don't know. I don't know. They've got the money.
They have the money. Max Scherzer, David Price, JD Martinez, Prince Fielder, Victor Martinez. No, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, hold on. Jason known for spending money. Jason, Ian Kinsler.
No, I got it. I got it. I hear you. I hear you. But you're not looking at the Tigers and say they're going to spend all that money on Scoobel and be able to spend all that money on other players on top of it to actually do battle with teams that take a $300 million contract and then another and then another or get three people to defer money into their dotage.
Okay, so that bleeds into my Dodgers is what I want to talk about the Dodgers. First of all, I want to say if AJ leaves Scrubble in, we had possibly win the World Series if he didn't take him on the sixth inning. With that being said, that Selly for Shohei, is exactly about what you just said. How he puts his hands in front of him and puts it to the side. His celebration is about that.
It's about taking his contract. Let's just put that to the side. And then that leads right into bingo, Rich. You guessed it. They signed Roki Suzaki and Yamamoto with all that money that they didn't spend on him.
That's the reason why they won the World Series. It wasn't because of Shohei. He helped get them there, but he didn't play great in the World Series, obviously. We all know that. It was those two guys that really won the World Series for him.
And that was a direct result of his celebration of us putting all that money to the side. And now let's just go and do this thing. I have a Dodger's hat and I have a Tiger's hat sitting right on top of my little portable steamer right now. And I don't even want to wear my Dodgers hat. Listen, Jason, don't be embarrassed.
My goodness. First of all, thank you for the call. Secondly, I believe, again, that celebration is a Freddie Freeman dance that he was at a wedding and they saw, and he was like Elaine Bennis, and they all had fun. And they still are. It's not taking the money now and destroying it.
By the way, I do like it. Listen, listen. And I'm not just saying that for the ESPN 710 audience here in Los Angeles. I think a lot of us have DDS, Dodgers derangement syndrome.
Okay. Because it's within their rules. It's within the rules of Major League Baseball to do what they're doing in terms of deferring salary. I wish my team could stuff like that. Right.
And yes, they bought Shohei and Yamamoto, and Yamamoto is the World Series MVP, and Shohei is the MVP. And I love how people are like, hey, didn't do anything in the World Series, except reach base nine times before starting the fourth game. I mean, you know, he... We came on the air thinking they have to change the rules on how to intentionally walk people based on what Otani did. But then, how to explain to me, Pajes making the play he did, Rojas making the plays defensively in game six, and then in game seven.
coming up with the home run that he did. Will Smith is another guy, right, who's just not up there in terms of the nine-figure contracts. He might get one. Because the Dodgers can afford it. And that's the way baseball is.
Just, I guess we have to face facts. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
