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Once again, but the first time since we've been with our friends at Disney is ESPN's Jeremy Fowler with all the information we need, the senior national NFL reporters here. Good to see you. How are you, Jeremy? Rich, thanks for having me, man. Great to be with you.
Thanks for being with us.
So let's just start with the Ravens at 1 and 4. What do you think is going on in that building? What can you tell us about? this start for the Ravens right now, Jeremy? Yeah, the panic meter is rising a little bit because, Rich, I can tell you going into this or last week against the Texans, just talking to people there, they felt like that was going to be a get-right game for them.
They were legitimately shocked with what happened despite Lamar Jackson being out. They felt like they were going to get back to team complimentary ball, playing like a Raven, playing with an edge. They felt like they could help Cooper Rush by running the ball with Derrick Henry. And then suddenly, none of that happened. And so I do think there's a shock in the building that has to sort of wear off quickly.
And they're trying to navigate this thing. Like, look, when Lamar Jackson's in the game in the regular season, he wins like 72% of the time.
So, if they can get him back, and I know he's rehabbing, he's been working in the pool, trying to loosen up that hamstring. And everything looks good behind the scenes. He's got to get back on the Prattis field this week. But if he's out there, they're always going to have a chance to win. You know, they were kind of hoping him being gone would be a chance for them to sort of galvanize themselves and play like a complete game.
And now, you know, you're looking at 177 points you've given up. In five games on defense. That's the worst clip in a five-game stretch in Ravens' history. dating back to 1996. And so.
Right now, the season's slipping away in a hurry, and I don't know what solutions they feel like they can find right now.
Well, I mean. Just getting whatever, I guess, voodoo doll that keeps sticking pins in their players. Maybe maybe that. That would be the solve. I'll be honest.
I understand that coaches love their roster and their players, and it's next man up. mentality, but the n I I I'm a little surprised that there was a feeling that they could compete with the Texans on the on offense with Lamar out and then their defense being as banged up as they are. What can you tell us about the preparedness of these guys to get back on the field on defense? That to me is You know, if Lamar's in the pool and he's trying to get things loosened up, there's a buy the next week.
So maybe give Cooper Rush one more shot. But the defensive side of the ball is decimated. Jeremy. Yeah, and I think the issue they're having on defense, it's not just personnel, even though they're not getting enough out of it. It's not just the injuries, they just feel like they're not playing with an edge.
You know, Zach Orr, defensive coordinator, and it hasn't gone well in the second year. It really didn't go well the first year, although they were able to rebound. They felt like he was always, as a player and a young coach, somebody who had a serious edge to him, a fire. You know, I look at Jacksonville the way they played last night. They gave up yards, but they played with an edge and that eventually led to a turnover.
Baltimore is just a little lifeless right now. They know it. and they're trying to work their way out of it it's going to take Some of the leaders on that side of the ball, at least some of the leaders that are healthy, to try to get something out of it. You know, pass rush, they're not getting much. They need to kind of start there, be able to dictate terms of the line of scrimmage and just try to find a spark.
You know, right now, like they're trying to plug whatever holes they can. You know, they bring Jair Alexander in at cornerback, Kyle Van Neuz back on the pass rush, but. You know, they just don't have anything to catalyze them right now, and they feel like the energy is gone. And I think that's part of the focus right now, is just trying to get that back. And then, if they lose, they lose, but they at least have to play the way they have in the past.
Okay, so before we move on, Lamar's in the pool trying to get things loosened up for this week. It's possible he could return. Before the buy, you think, Jeremy? Yeah, just talking to people there that they say it's possible. They really don't know yet.
They're going to play this out and see if you can get on the practice field. you know as was relayed to me from a source there He's not going to be out there unless he can be himself. You know, he's not going to be out there 50% just trying to throw the ball from the pocket. He's got to be able to operate as his normal dual-threat self. That does take time.
And as you see, Rich, I mean, a third of the league injuries are hamstrings right now. It's like an epidemic in the league. And when you get them, it's usually at least two weeks in most cases.
So if we're going by that, he might need that bye week to get right. And then you're looking at either Cooper Rush or the Ravens are at least entertaining, bringing back Snoop Huntley, who's on the practice squad, elevating him. And he can try to maybe get some of that Pro Bowl magic he had a few years ago. But right now, this is a team that is searching in a big way. All right.
I mean, you just opened the door a little bit. I don't know if there's any information that you've gleaned on this front, Jeremy Fowler, but you mentioned an epidemic of hamstring injuries. I'm getting questions from all different parts of my life within my own house, from Sue's, my. My wife and guest host of this program on Thursday to fans online. Are there more injuries this year than before?
Or are we just seeing bigger, bolder names getting hurt? Quarterbacks getting hurt. Is there something going on that we're not aware of? Jeremy, we're talking about? You know, I don't think there's any sort of secret sauce there for the injury uptick.
It does feel that way. I feel like every few years is worse than others, where you just get an avalanche of star players. That go out. This year is pretty bad. I mean, there's no doubt.
And you saw that. A couple of weeks ago, when five backup quarterbacks had to play in week four, whatever it was, you know, like it's just that's not a good trend. We're gonna probably have another 60 quarterbacks play this year because of injury and benchings and all that. And It's I mean, if you talk to coaches, you talk to teams, they typically say the same thing, that this is an accumulation of the lack of true training camps where back in the day you had two a days. You know, your body would get calloused to all the contact.
You just don't have as much of that. Because of what happened with the CBA 15 years ago, there's been less contact, less practice time. And, you know, most people I tell you around the league believe that that has had an effect on injuries and that you kind of have to live with that, you know, and that was a concession that the owners were willing to give up. In exchange for more money, essentially. And so, this is what you get: you get star players going out.
With injuries that you really didn't have 20, 30 years ago.
Now, these athletes are more explosive than ever. I think that's why you get hamstrings. And you know, you get calf issues and some of that. And then. Teams have more data, so they know.
If a player has like a calf strain, you don't want that to lead to an Achilles.
So you got to sit him down for a couple of weeks sometimes.
So I think it's preventative as well. And that leads to guys being on the bench more than they would have a decade ago. Jeremy Fowler here on The Rich Eisen Show. The Bengals have. Head coach Zach Taylor.
made it seem like the door was open. To changing personnel at the quarterback spot. He talked about it in general: we're gonna look at everything, personnel. What is going on in the front office of the Bengals, do you think, about the quarterback? waiting for Jake Browning of two years ago to show up this year.
So, yeah, I've been checking around on this, Rich. I've checked with some teams that have Quarterbacks that maybe could be in the trade market, or a veteran who's not playing, the Giants come to mind. I don't think the Bengals are working the phones a lot right now at this moment. That could certainly change. It's not the Bengals style to make a big trade, particularly at a quarterback spot.
It's hard to make an in-season quarterback trade because you have schemes and you have a lot of planning that goes into a quarterback getting on the field.
So Right now, they have released Mike White off the practice squad. They could back Phil with a quarterback to put on the practice squad. They could develop, you know, there's some free agents out there like Kyle Trask, goes with the Bucks, Taylor Heineke. Otherwise, there's not a lot out there, Rich. You know, you can look into Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson, but it's hard to ask them to come in on a Tuesday, week six, and start a game.
So. Uh As of now, I know that Jake Browning, last I checked, had not heard anything definitive on what's going to happen here.
So, everybody's sort of moving forward. It wouldn't shock me if he got one more week. We'll see.
However, I could be wrong because most of the time, as you know, when a head coach Leaves the door open, he makes the change that week.
So we'll see. It just, I don't see a clear solution right now. For the Bengals in another direction at this moment. What about Jameis? I mean, he's a third stringer.
He's sitting there. not dressing um and he's You know, he is definitely prepared. And listen, man, I'm with you. It's tough to just learn a new playbook and get out there and. And play quarterback.
I mean, Baker Mayfield did it on a two-day stint for the Rams and won a Thursday night football game. I mean, it's kind of... See ball, throwball, sometimes obviously I'm oversimplifying. But why not that as a possibility? I mean, that's not a big trade either, right?
It's just some sort of a draft compensation that you slide based on what he does. before Burrow can come back, if at all. Yeah, if you want to get Jameis Winston Rich, it's not going to cost you a third or fourth round pick. You can do a late pick swap. I mean, you see a lot of these deals right now, they're sort of inconsequential.
So if you want Jameis, you can get Jameis, and Jameis is going to get you yards. Jameis is going to get you three touchdowns. He's going to get you two interceptions, maybe three, but at least you're going to score a little bit. And right now, the Bengals can't do that. I will add, we talk about shock with the Ravens.
There's equal shock in the Bengals building because. They really felt going into what was it, week three, when Jake Browning first started to take over for Joe Burrow when he got hurt, that. Like, this is a guy who's probably somewhere in the top 32 to 35 quarterbacks. They really did believe that. He's incredibly smart, incredibly well prepared.
They're sort of shocked at what happened, too. And, you know, he just simply hasn't played well. A little bit of an uptick late in that Detroit game, but it was already out of hand.
So, not a lot of encouragement there. I think if they go back to him, it's simply for one more week, you know. But Cincinnati's not. They do things differently over there. They just don't make trades just to make them.
They don't pay players just because they're worth a lot. You know, like they do things in their own style. And to me, that style would signal that they sort of stay put maybe out of predator squad quarterback. That's either a free agent or on another prior squad with another team and go from there. But I'm with, I would all be all for the Jameis Cincinnati experience starting this week, for sure.
Jeremy Fowler here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's talk about. Mike McDaniel's hot seat. Is it hot? Is something going down there at 1 and 4, Jeremy?
Well, It's yeah, it's moderately hot, I would say. I don't, I really think that ownership there likes Mike McDaniel a lot. And this is not something where they're looking for an excuse to move on from them right now.
So, you know, I don't expect anything at this moment, this week. And. You know, I feel like they want to give them a little bit of time, but there are a lot of factors that go into that. Into that kind of situation, one of which is. You know, is your team getting better?
Is it lifeless? are seats in the stands in Miami Gardens empty. You know, those are factors that could go on. If they have some home games that are pretty ugly and the fans start to turn on the team, that's when Stephen Ross could make a move. You know, my understanding is that Stephen Ross has the owner has his sons involved in the process, you know, so they could be a factor here in sort of the future of Miami and what they do.
And, you know, it's interesting with me, Daniel. I believe if he doesn't still have a winning record, he's still got something close to it or around 500. Like, it's been respectable. He's been given a team. Whose roster is in transition?
I mean, the defense clearly lost a lot of key players that they felt would be good to move on from for the locker room's sake. But they backfilled them with players that weren't as talented.
So they're not working with a a team that's ready-made to win right now, at least on that side of the ball. And then you lose Tyreek Hill.
So, you know, to shoot Mike May Daniel a little bail, you know, he's got a quarterback that. can't really take a lot of hits, if at all. because of the concussion history.
So there's some limitations he's working with. You could tell McDaniel was really deflated by that Carolina loss. It just looked from. Him walking off the field, the demeanor after the game, that they really needed that one, knowing the schedule is going to get only harder from here.
So, Certainly, he's on the short list of changes that could be made for head coaches, but I don't expect anything like right now in the short term. And last one for you, Jeremy: Brock Purdy, not seen during the media portion of practice. Um, on Monday, and not usually there's a lot of practices on Monday, but the Niners are on a short week. Do you think? It's going to be Purdy.
It's going to be Mac Jones again at Tampa. What a big game this is in week number seven. Six. Jeremy. Well, they're going to see how the week progresses.
He's going to have to be able to get on the practice field, not only perform and practice, but protect himself. You know, he was able to do that two weeks ago. And then just watching that last game he was in a Sunday and a half ago, and then talking to the Rams coaches as they were preparing for their game last Thursday night, they said, He's just not ready. He doesn't look right. He doesn't look healthy.
That's kind of what I go back to when I think about this week. You know, he might just need more time here. And so, certainly, it feels on the table that Mac Jones could get another shot, but it's really early in the week.
So, if Brock can make progress by Thursday or Friday, maybe be a limited or even a full participant in practice, that changes the story. I do expect him to be the guy when he's healthy. I don't think there's any sort of conspiracy theory here, but certainly the 49ers are really comfortable with Mac Jones, who is yet again rich. The fifth or sixth. Reclamation QB project we've seen to great success.
Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield. Sam Darnold, you know, Geno Smith is struggling now, but last couple years in Seattle, like we're seeing these guys. You know, confidence and belief is a funny thing, and good coaching, you know, if you go to the right place. You can have success. And we're seeing that with Mac Jones, who really looks like kind of a starting caliber quarterback right now.
Jeremy, thanks for the time. Greatly appreciate it. Look for more of my calls as we mature. Thanks, Rich. You've got a senior national NFL reporter from ESPN, Jeremy Fowler, right here on the Rich Heisen show.
Boy, there's lots cooking. Um apparently just as we are leaving with Jeremy there is A trade. The Bengals have actually made a move. And it's kind of surprising who they made a move for and where they got him. From And we've got overreaction Monday on a Tuesday, so let's take a break.
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So, these things happen when you're talking with an information reporter about something, and then something breaks as you're talking to that individual, and you find out after you have. Hang up with that individual. That just happened with Jeremy Fowler, and I talked with him about. the possibility of the Bengals getting Jameis Winston. They did not.
Uh just acquired Jameis Winston. Oh, there's breaking news. Go ahead and hit it. Here it comes. Boom!
And Maria is seat three. Breaking news. All right, Chris Brockman, what do you have over there about what the Bengals just did to deal with their quarterback situation of Jake Browning not performing like the Jake Browning of a couple years ago with Burrow being down for the foreseeable future? What do you have over there? Yeah, sir, according to the information man, Ian Rappaport, Tom Pellisero, Adam Schefter, the Browns are trading Joe Flacco in a sixth-round pick.
to the Bengals for a fifth rounder. Joe Flacco in division.
Now Cincinnati is peaceful. Lay all this out in terms of you can't make this up.
So if you had told us Collectively. Not the royal. Us collectively. Five weeks ago. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. That. Dylan Gabriel would be the week five starter for the Cleveland Browns. We'd be like, okay, we see that. Can we get a little higher?
Okay, we see that. That's possible.
Okay. Um Could we have seen the fact of Joe Burrow getting hurt for the rest of the, for a large part of the regular season?
Well, we've heard, it's not something you want to hear. No, but it doesn't happen. Um And the fact though that the guy that filled in for Burrow quite capably. Two years ago. Would do something to the bed so significantly.
That the Bengals would reach out in week Six. For a quarterback And it would be Joe Flacco. In state too. That's one thing. But in division, in state.
And he hasn't looked great either. And that's the guy that they're bringing in. And at least, you know, he's 40, so it'll be quick to get him up to speed. It's not like he's Been in a million different playbooks in his life. Also be quick to break a hip.
Whoa.
Well I see. I mean And in between. Shadur Sanders would be in the news as a third-string quarterback. Because He thinks Or he has said that he's ready to the point where he's better than current starting quarterbacks in the NFL, talking things into existence and speaking his mind. and showing off his confidence.
And then For whatever his reasoning, deciding to listen to Rex Ryan and respond to him. Through mining Yeah. And The Browns decide to now have a quarterback room with Two. Rookie quarterbacks and no veteran presence that's currently active on their roster as we are speaking in. to a microphone right now.
If you had told us all of this prior to the season in week five, you'd be like, this is crazy, but it's the NFL. You never know. And that's what's happening right now.
So let's take the Bengals part of it. Which is Again, they weren't going to go ahead and get somebody. Like Kirk Cousins, Who costs a lot of money now? And it's on. The hook.
to be paid something more than one cent. For next year's services, When Joe Burrow Has an injury that he could come back earlier this year, which lends credence again as to why. We have this drop anytime the Bengals decide to pay anybody. in the National Football League.
So they weren't going ahead and rip open their Velcro wallet and spend a lot more than obviously a fifth-round draft choice. For cousins, that wasn't going to happen. The Jameis thing, man. It was right there. I don't know if the, but if the Giants could easily be like, no, we're just, we're, we're.
Yeah. You know, where you see teams down, like for a split second, the Vikings were down to their third-string quarterback, the first team to be such. The Max Brosmer season almost hit in London. For a split second, but whence came back. And finish that game.
And um So We'll see. The Bengals now having Joe Flacco on their roster and I don't know. Will they be able to get it? Will he be up to speed? To go visit Green Bay.
Like, hey, Joe, welcome to the team. That's Micah. You know, and kind of avoid him. Um that's Rashawn. Definitely avoid him too.
You know what I'm saying? Here's a playbook. Will he be able to, or is it going to be Jake Browning going on out there? I don't know, man. I'll do respect to Jake, but how do you trot him back out there?
I don't know. Because there's Brett Ripon there as well. And how quickly can he go? Can his first game be home against Pittsburgh on the Thursday nighter to kick off week seven? That seems more likely, right?
Revenge game. You get a revenge game against the Jets. This season is all about revenge games. Everybody in the AFC North, you get a revenge game against the Jets. You get a revenge game against the Jets.
Who else just gets to play Baltimore again? One for Pittsburgh, one for Cincinnati. I mean, could Cleveland, can Cleveland acquire Ray Lucas in time? I don't know who else we can get. Is Brownie Nagel out there?
Vinny? Hey, let's give a a comeback player of the year to him. Hey, let's get as many revenge games of People with repaired Achilles as you can possibly get. Let's get Test of Artie. Not a bad idea.
All right. Let's stay on target here.
Okay. Well, so that's my take on the Bengal side of things. That things have just been so Difficult. For them to Keep moving forward with Jake Browning, who again he won four of seven. Starts.
in place of borrow and was lighting it up. And now, by the way, no, no, I'm just telling you, my take that Jake Browning is not so bad that the Bengals season is over has now led to Joe Flacco being acquired by the Browns. Officially making this my worst take since I've returned to Disney and ESPN.
So What's up? You got the bad one out of the way, or I got it. Yeah, out of the way.
Now we got it. I don't know. Maybe Jake Browning lights it up against the. The Packers, and we have a new quarterback controversy in Cincinnati. All right, I'm going to give it up.
You gotta move on. Thank you.
Now then, as for the Browns, as for the Browns, what are they doing? Hold on, what are they doing? What are they doing? What are they doing? Here's what they're doing.
Here's what they're doing. Honestly, hold on. Let's take it one at a time here. Let's take it one at a time here. They're starting Dylan Gabriel this week.
Right.
Okay. Dylan Gabriel is going to get a start this week against the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are coming off of their buy at 3-1. And he's going to go to Pittsburgh, and he's going to see TJ Watt, and he's going to see Cam Hayward, and he's going to see that defense coming off a full week of rest. And good luck, sir. Mike Tomlin, 14-4 off a bye.
Okay. So gonna be an interesting start.
Now Um the question is Who's the second string quarterback there? Who's going to, and you could basically say it's going to be a rookie backing up a rookie, but let's see because sitting on their practice squad. is a guy that the NFL Can't quit? It's barely Zappy. Zappy!
It's Zappy time. We just talked about them yesterday. Come on and get Zappy. Come on, come on. Come on now.
The next quarterback. Shiny, sappy people in Cleveland. Because I'm Sunday, Monday, Zappy Day. Wow. Cut the long.
Get Zapp. All right, wait, let's stop. Crazy things have happened. We all know we've seen Bailey Zappi can perform in this league. And Brockman's favorite.
And so is it possible? There's another microphone that's going to be put in front of Shadur Sanders to talk about your still third string, he just does like this, which nobody ever does in our league. But will he possibly, or wait for it, he will back up. And he's going to get some run. Or wait for it.
If you look at their depth chart, listed at fourth on the depth chart. Is Deshaun Watson? Yes, yes, who you're seeing every now and then. On a practice field. You know, is it possible?
His Achilles? Is Rehabbed enough that he could get some run this season. Because he's still on the roster. And he's still being paid next year a gajillion and a half dollars. Don't forget the half.
Ha ha ha ha. It's fully guaranteed. Is that what's happening? They also have two first-rounders next year, although nobody. in college football right now is balling out to the point where There's your first overall pick next year.
And the Browns are one and four. And I don't know. It kind of feels like they're just There's got to be... A plan? Let's see who we have here.
And then, if it goes south. It goes south and we're You know, we could pick the first two overall picks in next year's draft. You know? By moving up. Because Jacksonville's first rounder is getting lower and lower down the chart with each passing week right now.
Yeah. I can't believe that. That just happened. Eh? React to us.
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So Dylan Gabriel is going to start. against the Steelers. I've never ever said these words before and this is our first day of our 12th year Right. And uh we turned 11. Yesterday.
Have I ever said, can't wait to see the depth chart come out for the Cleveland Browns? Not that I'm aware of. Is it going to be, hey, kid, you're not ready yet, Shadur? You're not ready yet. It's Bailey Zappi who's going to back up Dylan Gabriel against the Steelers, who, as we all know, can.
Get the second string quarterback in pretty fast. And uh or could it be Shadur getting some run? And at some point, if it goes south to the point where Dylan Gabriel's not the answer. Or Zappi ain't Worth the try. Maybe just maybe you Get Shadora Sanders a start.
And I went on a register, but maybe just maybe do something like that. And see how it goes. Why not? Why not, indeed?
Well Okay. Cleveland Browns have entered the chat. With the Bengals on a quarterback situation because Burrow gets hurt and Flacco gets benched, and they send Flacco to Cincinnati because Jake Browning. Makes Uh me say things into a microphone that uh I'm um Regretting. Here, Coach.
Thank you.
Someone on Twitter asks us if Joe Flacco can say no to this deal. Why would he? That makes no sense, by the way.
Well, the O-line will have him. Guess what? Maybe, listen. He's going to start. Come on now.
Why would Flacco's going to sit there and back up in Cleveland where they're one and four or go to Cincinnati and play potentially meaningful games that you're more chasing than Teeth Higgins? Come on now. Can Joe Wynn come back player of the year again? Yes, why not? Coming back from the Browns.
Yeah, yeah, right. Yes. Last time he came back from the couch. Correct. And this time he's coming back from the Browns.
Salt.
Sold. This could be great. Let's check his odds. Yeah. You can't come back from being benched in a season and then traded.
That's not the purpose of it. I don't think it's a good thing. He shouldn't have won it a couple years ago. That's not the purpose of it either. You can't come back from a bench or anonymity.
You come back from injury. What if Flacco goes from like a 12-game win streak? Oh, yeah. That's the point of the award. What if Flacco wins out?
You're rewarding somebody for rehabbing and doing so well. that you tip the cap to them with a piece of hardware. Does Barrow even play again if Flag wins out? Oh, great. He can win Comeback Player of the Year award then.
There you go. Joe Flaga goes 12-0, wins Comeback Player of the Year and MVP. Oh, let's go. We're back. Let's take a break.
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Monday. On a Tuesday. All right, Christopher, what do you have over there? Let's hit it. Gentlemen, how are you?
Great Tuesday. Great to see you. You're doing great. Everyone, and Duval. The Jaguars will be battling for the AFC one seed into December.
Duval. Um. I don't think that's an overreaction. I mean You kind of hooked me in with the rational. point of into December.
So Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna keep this going. I I don't you know unless there's A massive change, or there's an ability to. Scheme against them by offenses to hold on to the football against a team that is Just Been lights out taking the ball away and being aggressive. And one would think offensively Brian Thomas is going to start to.
Get his, and Travis Hunter is going to start getting his, and there's going to be more. The offense matching the defense. I dig it. I don't think that's an overreaction. They have the horses, they seem healthy.
Although Strange left last night's game, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that statement at all. Speaking of horses. The Broncos are going to win the AFC West. I don't think that's an overreaction either. When you look at the fact that the Chiefs can't seem to play Consistently enough, I mean, that's what a 500 team looks like: they play up, then they play down.
Or they do that within the same game. The Chiefs can absolutely turn this thing around and win the division. I mean, the last time they were two and three. They wound up finishing 12 and 5 and made it to the AFC Championship game at home, and that was the year they lost to Burrow.
So I'm not discounting them at all. But the Chargers are down to running back three and tackles four and five. for at least the next month.
So, and the Raiders have not shown any ability to play at all like week one through weeks two through five.
So there's no reason why the Broncos can't win the AFC West and Arna uh contender to do so, if not the favorite at this point. That's not an overreaction either. Look at you. Look at us. Two for two to start.
Man, let's see. TJ, wouldn't you agree with that? Let's stay hot. Yeah, I'm going to roll with you on that one.
Okay, thank you. Let's stay hot. My man. Drake May is going to be the MVP conversation by the end of this month. Hmm.
Alright. Put up the Patriot schedule. They're going to win all assuming they're just going to win.
Now they're just going to be a consistent veteran team that just plays the same way year in, week in, and week out. In the next three games, the teams have three wins.
So they win all of those. Suddenly, it's like, well, Drake May. There we go. I got it. That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying by the end of this month, people are going to be like, well, Drake May, outside MVP.
Well, I saw a higher register MVP. MVP Conversation. Baker, Goff. Um Dak is in that conversation. And so we'll start throwing Drake May into that conversation.
The Patriots are going to be 6-2. Yeah, he's going to be in that conversation. I love the kid. I've been talking him up. I've been talking about this kid and this team for the last two, three weeks.
As he need to get on board.
Okay. I'm not going to give any fuel to your mass hole fire over there. Oh, we're done.
Okay. I know what we're doing. What else?
Someone on the, we were talking about can Joe Flacco win comeback player of the year. The Colts actually probably have the comeback player of the year, Danny Dimes.
Someone on the Colts is winning an end-of-the-season award. Oh, okay.
So anyone should hurt him. I'm talking about Tony Diamonds. I'm talking about Shane Steichen. Daniel Johnson is not a comeback player of the year. You cannot come back from inefficiency and being cut.
That's not what the award is for. It shouldn't have ever been about it. Right with the Giants. Wasn't he injured with the Giants? You want to talk about him for MVP?
Now, that's a different story. He has the fourth best odds for comeback player of the year. But comeback from what? Didn't he put hurt on the Giants last year? No, he wasn't.
Yeah, DeVito played. He was on the Vikings, wasn't he? He got cut, guys. I called his game in Germany. He hands off to Tyrone Tracy in overtime.
Tracy fumbles it. They lose. And the only reason why they forced overtime or had to is he caught fire in the fourth quarter because he was so bad in the first three quarters.
So he got cut. He's come back. No, he's not coming back. You can't come back. That's not what the award should be for.
Enough's enough with that. There are enough people who will get hurt and rehab and come back. All right. And the offensive player of the year for Jonathan Taylor, as you know, that's the MVP running back award. Yeah, that's what they just should call it.
Yeah, the MVP running back award. MVP should just be best quarterback. That's it. Yeah, that's what it is. That's it.
And then maybe a running back breaks through and says, you know what? You did it. You did well enough. You should continue. Exactly.
That's what we're hired in the drafts button. All right. Well, McCaffrey and Saquon should have been back-to-back MVPs. And you know what? Hey, you might have a point there.
We talk about. McCaffrey could be comeback player of the year. Oh, yeah. He was hurt. He was.
He's balling. Yeah, he's got the second best odds. Who's got best odds? Dak, actually. Give it to him.
Because Deke was hurt last year, wasn't he? Oh, yeah, everything was messed up. All right. You hurt? Do you get that?
That's you not paying attention. Good lord. Just work your favors and move on. Wait, he literally just gave me an abortion speech. No, he's not.
The league is wide open. You're trying to come back from your gaff. Did you say gay- I did. This is weird.
Okay, oh shh. See, I don't like the third time today. I need to reel this in, Mike. We did the same REM reference for Berman nickname as well. Yeah.
All right. Orange crushed. Maybe we are tighter than I thought we were. What's going on? What else?
No divisions getting more than two playoff teams. I don't. I'm going to go NFC West. I'm going to go NFC West as a chance for three. How about the sneaky, sneaky, sneaky three team division, AFC South?
Yeah. Texans? Texans come back. Yeah, they're only two and three for a wild card spot. That's not bad.
They played great last time. I'm just saying. How much you're saying, AFC South, sneaky three-team division. Is she picking the Titans to get on fire? Is that it?
Okay. What else?
All right, hear me out. A lot of blowouts this year. You guys noticed this? I have. Certainly playing the Colts.
Yeah. Not great. Not great for TV watching either. The NFL should institute running time for any game that has a 30-point differential. Stop it.
Running time. It's 30 points. You're not coming back. Let's run the clock. Let's get this game over with.
I'll do that in a second. I like that. Always keep it moving, man. Keep it moving. Sports, where we need this thing to get going because we've got another kid to pick up across town.
Well, it sure looks like youth sports, some of the way these teams are playing, getting their asses kicked. Get out of here. Professional football. Keep it moving. Think about the injuries that happened in the last minute of a second.
A couple years ago, when the Vikings came back on the Colts on NFL Network on that Saturday, we just read it. Was that a 30-point differential? Sure, it was. Great.
So one game out of 2,000. All right, enough. Onward. What else you got over there? You don't like that?
I don't like it. Have you picked up on that vibes? Why wouldn't you like it? Have you vibe-checked it? You don't like to sit around and waste time.
So why wouldn't you like this? What else?
Wow. Did Roger Goodell just text you and say, keep it moving? My phone is out of my pocket. I wouldn't know if RG1 hit me on my hip. Guys, all right, let's talk a little baseball.
It feels like the Dodgers are about to go on a late 90s Yankees run. Yeah, I know. I don't think that's an overreaction at all. It feels kind of sucks, actually. Why?
I don't know. I mean, we're in town. We're on ESPN 1010. How's the help bus? We're on ESPN 710 here locally in Los Angeles.
So, Tony rolling through here? There's a lot of people that might disagree with you with their Dodger car flags out there right now. Oh, is it the car flag season? Again, last night, Philly's fans are going nuts right now about Rob Thompson deciding to bunt with a guy on second. In the ninth inning.
And just trying to bunt him over to third and get him on third base so they could just get a productive out to tie the game. And guess what? Max Muncie was all over the bunt. And guess who was right there at third base? Rightfully so to make the play, Mookie Betts.
They're just really good. They're great everywhere. Freddie Freeman with an incredible scoop at first base. He's the one who also started the rally with a double. Uh They're incredible.
They're incredible. The Phillies were the World Series favorites. Huh? The Phillies were the favorites to be. I win the whole thing.
But the Dodgers. They're about to get swept. And the Dodgers are now using starters as their relievers. And because they are also, Roberts is smart enough to go, well, we played two games in four days.
So let's just empty the case and try and get up 2-0 to go back home. And that's exactly what happened. Exactly what happened. You got one more? Purgo undeniable.
And the crowd is cheering too for some reason. I mean, look, I know it's not hoop season yet, but did you see this Shams report this morning? Which was one. The Knicks should have blown it all up for Giannis last month. In August, Giannis said the only team he would be willing to go to was the Knicks.
Trade talks fell apart. Knicks blew it. Should have gone for Giannis hard. Good to know, man. Whatever.
Yeah, yeah. You gotta do it. It's Giannis. It's Giannis. Who did the Knicks have to give up?
Doesn't matter. He should have given up Cat, the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty. This guy. Brunson, that wouldn't have gone over. He could have gone with Brunson, Giannis, and everybody else.
I thought the question is: Giannis would consider leaving the Bucs. That's the news that he actually is thinking about it.
Well, you know, his family apparently moved to Athens. Ohio? Here's gonna be a calf. No, power three coming up. That is Georgia.
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