WWE Superstar Jacob Fatu

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This is the Rich Eisen Show. That's like an alarm clock. Woo! Woo! With guest host, O'Shea Jackson Jr.

Oh my gosh, I'm a 5'11 quarterback that I just got drafted in the first round. The Johnny Manzell that I watched on TV, I would think he would be like, Yeah, of course I'm going to the Cleveland and I'm gonna be that guy. Today's guests. WWE superstar Jacob Fatu. MMA and boxing journalist Ariel Hilwani.

Super Bowl champion running back Marshawn Lynch. Actor and recording artist Ice Cube. And now. Sitting in front. O'Shea Jackson Jr.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Rich Eisen Show. I am your host for today. Film and television's O'Shea Jackson Jr., aka the heel that you love to hate, aka Petty Guerrero. And as always, joined on the Rich Eisen Show by the best Bostonian from Maine. Chris Brockman.

Thank you, Shay. Thank you for that introduction. Yes, a lifelong Dodger fan, Mike Del Tufo. I love you, man. And of course, the best tag team partner in the world.

TJ, you want to hit it? TJ Jefferson in the building. What up, though? And yeah, so I'll be you guys' host for today. I know what you're thinking at home.

Why would Rich Eisen give him the keys to the house? I'm wondering that question and not at all. I'm here. We will find that out together over the next three hours. Call us up if you want, 844-204-RICH.

That's 844-204-RICH. We got a great lineup today. I mean, I don't even think great is kind of underselling it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

I got a jam-packed show. This guy, I got to say, shouts to you. You brought it. Yes. Today, we will be having WWE superstar Jacob Fatu.

All gas, no breaks. Yeah, all gas, no breaks. Yada, I mean, we will also have Ariel Hawani. Not to mention peace mode. Marshawn Lynch will be in today.

That's all during the second hour. Jacob Fatu in our first. And then we're going to end it off with Ice Cube. I'm a big fan of his. Can't wait to talk to him.

You know, what's crazy is Del Tufa and I had relationships with Ice Cube before you had relationships with Ice Cube. Yes, man. You know, I just met him in 2015 when I did a little movie. A little movie, you know, a little indie that I did. But besides that, guys.

Yeah, man. Isn't it weird? I mean, it's just a crazy coincidence. All right. I'm not going to put anything out there, but isn't it a crazy coincidence that Rich Eisen isn't here?

When Michigan gets in trouble. Ah. How about that? But here's the thing: is like they didn't actually get in trouble. Yeah, I mean like this it's so dumb.

We all saw what they did. We all know what they did. We all know what it led to. And it's just a fine and a slap on the wrist. And hey, your coach that was already suspended next year or this year for games three and four odd.

We're going to give him another game in 2026. And we're going to slap a ton of sanctions on the coach that's not there anymore. He's actually down the street here in El Segundo. Cool, cool, cool. Great job, NCAA.

I mean, Now, does this mean, no, are you saying that because it's Michigan that this is happening, or is it not really cheating? I mean, like, if you have a guy who can just happen to read everything that you're doing, doesn't that mean you need to step up all the signals that you're doing and maybe change your strategy? Is it frowned upon or is it illegal? I think the illegal part was phishing out other people to do this signal stealing for you and then dressing up as an assistant coach on a different team and standing on the sideline when you're supposedly a Michigan University employee. I think that part is kind of pretty blatant.

I mean, we got to slap on the wrist, folks. We got a lot of things to read right here.

So, so far, they have four years of probation. Cool. Chris, please. Uh we got some financial penalties. A $50,000 fine plus 10% of the budget for the football program, a fine equivalent to the anticipated loss of all postseason competition revenues sharing associated with the 2025 and 2026 football seasons, a fine equivalent to the cost of 10% of the scholarships awarded in Michigan's football program for the 25-26 academic year, a 25% reduction in football official visits during the 25-26 season, a 14-year prohibition on recruiting communications in the football program during the probation period.

That's a slap on the wrist to you, Chris.

Sounds like it. Yeah.

Now, Connor Stallions, the guy, the guy, the all-seer. Right now, an eight-year show cause order restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show cause period. Jim Harbaugh gets one of those as well. He gets a 10-year. All right.

So there goes your slap on the wrist. It's not even there. Basically, what this means is if these guys went to go look for another job in college football, they would basically have to prove that these accusations are false in order for them to get these jobs. And it's stopping a hardball from it not being successful elsewhere and then going back to Michigan. That's that's that's the show calls penalty and the the time period and all that.

That's basically what that means. You got Denard Robertson getting one of those, uh, his is three years, and a two-year for Sharon Moore. Moore also will be suspended for the first game of the 26-27 season. Apart from the three game suspension, Moore is not prohibited from engaging in coaching or other athletically related activities during the show calls period.

So he's not even prohibited from engaging. It's a slap on the wrist. Cool, cool, cool. You got away with it, Rich. I'm happy for you, man.

I'm sure you're on vacation right now. My tying it up. Go, Wolverine. How do you say it? Abita?

I think that's where he was today. Yeah, I mean, I got some friends over in the Canary Islands. Shout out to the Canary Islands. And shout out Lisps. Yeah, shout out Lisps.

All right. It's a strong battle.

Now, we also got some football, though, right? We got some football games today. Yeah, we do. Who do we have? I I believe I saw the the Titans and Falcons.

Titans and Falcons tonight, and we also, let's see, what what was the other game? There was two games tonight. Wait. Chief Seahawks. That's kind of fun.

Yeah, that's cu it's definitely more. A couple of preseason games tonight. I think we'll see Cam Warden, Michael Pennick and slow shout out. Shout out to Job, who screwed that up yesterday. And then Chief Seahawks, that's kind of a fun one.

We'll see did is Patrick Mahomes gonna play tonight? I believe so. And then we'll hi. And we'll see what Sam Donald looks like. These guys need to get some action.

These guys have to play in the preseason, right, TJ? I mean, as long as there's no injury issue. Right, I don't like when just knock a little bit of the rust off. Unless, like with Stafford, there's an injury issue and he doesn't need to be out there. It's probably good to get your guy a drive or two.

But again, they're getting all the practice time, right?

So it's necessarily necessary for them. To take this risk, because God forbid something happens to my homes on that first drive. And then, yeah, knock on wood, bro. You're going to get Kansas City on you. No, I'm just, I just, that's hence why I said God forbid.

God forbid. You know? Yeah, we've seen some horrific injuries so far. Like, it's been some bad ones, a lot of broken legs. A couple knees.

I mean, you could get, I mean, get shot walking your doggy. You know what I mean? Like, you know, that's a line from Heat. Bro, it's Friday for sure. I know.

I'm just saying. Chris, you're going crazy, man. Thank you. And he's getting ratings. This happens.

Injuries happen whenever, wherever, you know. And so just play. I mean, Kevin Love, remember, he broke his hand doing knuckle push-ups. You just never know what happened. Yeah, you never know.

You never know what these play, but it's terrible for my fantasy.

Now, I need to ask you both because I love fantasy. Trust both of you guys. I'll give you three hours of fantasy today if you want. Abdud, please, because I'm in a 16-man league. Too many.

That's your first mistake. Hold on, bro. Hold on, everybody. Mansly. Just saying.

Now, I'm in a 16-man league that we've been doing it forever. It's been the same guys, and it's all about bragging rights. It ruins these next couple of Sundays for me because I'm just going to be nothing but stressed, can't enjoy football. And it honestly stops us all from hanging out because we're just playing each other.

Now, I have fifth pick. Fifth pick. And I have an inside scoop. That Bijan. Jettis Uh Barkley.

And Jamal. They're all gone. And I'm looking at. There's a lot of things, a lot of directions I can go, all right. Gibbs, Gibbs just seems like the sure shot for me.

I just feel safe, but I don't really watch a lot of Lions. You know, I know that's not really how you're supposed to draft, but Gibbs is that's number one that I'm thinking about taking. But what's going on with Christian McCaffrey? Do I believe Shanahan? Never in my life.

Man, believing Shanahan is tough. Never in my life have I ever done that. Should I do it now? I'm in the upside. I'm in McCaffrey.

This is what we were talking about before the show, too. Because I'm kind of in the similar situation where it looks like I may have a chance to draft Christian McCaffrey where I'm slated. And the upside is. Number one player in fantasy, which we saw in 2023. Yeah.

Talking about if you're in a PPR league, you're talking about 25 points a game, possibly with Christian McCaffrey. The downside is last year. Where he plays like four games and he's hurt, and the Niners are obviously, you know, finagling the injury report. Oh, I have Achilles soreness in both legs. No, I got a calf.

No, I got an MCL. I got an oblique. And then he just doesn't play.

So he's the ultimate. High risk. High-reward player in fantasy this season, but all reports at a Niners camp is that he looks phenomenal. He's back to his 2023 form, and that you'd be an idiot for not taking him. Yeah, and I don't want to be an idiot.

You know, I try really hard not to be one. Yeah.

But I will play one on TV for the right money. Ma'am. TJ, you ain't got no insight on me. I know he's not a cowboy. But, like, how do you feel about Christian McCaffrey?

Do I believe what the Niners are pitching to me? I'm a Rams fan. I don't believe nothing that the Niners said. Here's the deal with McCaffrey. Yeah, it's like boom or bust, right?

Like, if you take the chance and he stays healthy, then you know what you're going to get. Like, you're going to get someone who can potentially lead you to a fantasy championship. But that injury history is enough to make me go, I might take my chances with Gibbs. If I was you and in that position.

Now, I've been hearing a lot of Gibbs and Montgomery kind of. Sharing that a little bit, though. I think Gibbs is ready to go. Montgomery is still going to. Get the goal line carries, I'm sure.

He's still going to get his touchdowns, but Jameer Gibbs are going to get the rushes and the catches, like Chris was saying. Probably. Probably very similar to the production that McCaffrey would give, but Whereas McCaffrey would get more, I think, of a higher touchdown total than Gibbs would. And if you're in a full PPR, you know, he's going to catch so many passes because think about the 49ers. They've all the receivers.

They've got one good healthy receiver right now, Ricky Pearsall. And so you got Brandon Ayuk coming back from injury. You got Jawan Jennings banged up, and he wants a new contract.

So they've got a lot of issues with their pass catchers. You know, Kittle's there. He's A1 reliable. And then if McCaffrey is healthy, bam, you know, he's good for six, seven, eight catches a game. Yeah.

You're looking at 90, probably 80, 90 catches on the season for him. I just want to thank you both because I'm right back where I started. Yeah, I left nowhere. It's tough. This is literally going to come down to a coin toss for you, I think.

You know what it is? You know that, what was that inception? You know that clip that goes around where Leo's talking to that guy, and the guy's like, I need a guarantee. Yeah.

And the guy's like, how can I trust you? He goes, You can't. But I can. That's McCaffrey. How do I know you can deliver?

I need a guarantee. I can't guarantee it. But just know I can't deliver. That's McCaffrey this year. Oh man, hopefully a caller comes in later today because I need to figure this out.

Because the thing about doing fantasy football with your friends, it's about bragging rights. I could care less about the money. Money's good, but I could care less about the money. It's about. Just really being able to roast my friends for a full year.

And I won that friend. I'd be over your friend, your group of friends for 12 months. Yeah, man. And I'd be the first black champion. I'd be historic.

So you would be Ron Simmons of your league. You'd be Doug Williams of your league. Doug Williams of your league. I need that. I need that.

You'd be the Arthur Ashe of your league, is what you're saying. Yeah.

So a lot of his riding artists. You'd be the Barack Obama of your league. Yep. Shout out, Barry O. Yeah, man.

You'd be the TJ Jefferson on the Rich Eisen show of your league. You are a hero and a survivor. Not like you, Del Tufo, man. Oh, no. Not like you, bro.

But, dude, we got Jacob Fatu coming up. We got Jacob Fatu coming up later on. And about. Yeah.

16 as soon as that clock changes. If people don't know Jacob Fatu, I used to describe him like this: if you remember Jeff Hardy, yours, who everybody remembers, he's invited to every cookout, and you remember Umaga. If Jeff Hardy and Umaga could have somehow mixed DNA and had a child, the child I feel would have been Jacob Fatu, just the way he goes in the ring. What I'm crazier is this dude insanely athletic for a man his size. Yes, it's exactly my view.

You're reading it very well. Yeah, every time I watch this dude get on the top rope, I'm like, he's gonna do what? He's a giant. He's like a defensive tackle who can do backflips off the top rope. And the thing is, you haven't even seen his full arsenal.

Exactly. You know what I mean? So. Yeah, he had. You know, he was one of the first people that I went on a full-on A full-on indie search for to see some of his work at MLW and for him to now get into the WWE, it's been a real treat.

And I feel like we got to get to Jacob, but I feel like we got to go to break. If I heard that right, he's sitting down. Let's get to break. Yeah, man. All right.

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Ever meet Ali? Yeah.

What was that like? I was um 19 78 or 77, I'm locked up in Sparford Juvenile Detention Center and all of a sudden we come down, we watch the movie The Graded and then next thing, you know, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, Ali walks in. Into your detention center. Yes. What was that like?

Pandemonium. And I was only 11, maybe. I didn't really understand it. I heard my mother mention called him Clay around the house. I didn't know who he was.

As time goes on, I found out who he was from the show, of course. And that was good inspiration. I started. After that, I got transferred to another place where it was a gentleman, Barbie Stewart, who was a former fighter, who started teaching me how to fight, and then he introduced me to the legendary trainer customado. And then I saw Roberto Duran and Sugaray Lennon fight.

And I wasn't sure what I was going to be a fight. I was just happy to get out of that place. Sure. But when I saw them fight, I knew, ooh, that's what I want to do in my life. That's what, when you saw Duran and Sugar Ray fight, that's when you said, that's what I want to do.

How do you get into the mindset to go ahead and knock somebody like Marvis Frazier out in 30 seconds? You know, Robert Cole in 37 seconds. It doesn't happen overnight. It happens when you're a kid and you have to be that person before you become that person. What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by that? I think I know what you mean, but I'd love to. It's a lifestyle. You have to live that lifestyle. At a young age, I just lived that lifestyle, never had girlfriends, I trained all day, I watched fight films all day, I read fight magazines all day.

Every conversation I had with somebody was about fighters, who you think would have won this and that. Just like guys that love basketball, baseball. Who do you think would have won? Who do you think's the best? Kareem, Oscar Robinson, or who do you think's the best?

That's all I was. You think he could be him? You thought he would be, match the guys with the past, with the guys with the present, and this and that. And that's all I thought about. Guys.

Really excited about this next guest. Let's do it. One of my favorite WWE superstars on the rise. You don't have to tell him when to go because he's all gas and no breaks. He is the Samoan werewolf, Jacob Fatu.

Welcome to the show. Y'all and I mean this guy Yes, indeed. How you doing today, man? Man, man, I'm blessed. I'm blessed, big bro.

Man, just thank y'all for having me on here, man. And uh, yeah, I mean, big bread, man, you know, man, you know what's what's going on with you. I appreciate you, man. I got him coming on later today, so that should be that should be dope, man. I really appreciate that.

Now, you've been on the rise, man. You've been really putting the work in. And as for those who don't know, he is part of the Samoan dynasty, which is, and TJ will attest to this, the most. Like illustrious family in professional wrestling, the bloodline through and through, generations, decades, it don't matter. You guys are always prominent.

But when. Would you say you got bit by that wrestling bug? When did you know? Yeah, I want to take the family route. And you know, um Man, it was 18, man.

Got locked down and You know, seeing Big Bro and them on TV. It's just, man, it's out of And it was crazy because I was actually, the TV wasn't supposed to be on that day, you know, and just very blessed, man. And, you know, had kids already. I was just trying to figure it out. But, uh, I had to learn how to respect the business.

So, you know, I thought I could just do it, jump in, but it ain't easy, you know, just because of my family. Yeah.

But, man, my trainers, Gangrel, Rikishi, my father, the Tonga Kid, my uncle, Reno, Anawai, the Black Pearl, came up in Knox Pro in Los Angeles. You know what I mean? So, man, I was just trained the right way, but definitely happened, man, when I was locked down.

Now, when you say, You had to learn to respect the business. You know, for those who are trying to get into professional wrestling, what exactly does that mean? Break that down as much as you can for finding that respect for the business.

Well, you know, it's all the sacrifices, you know, not even just what my father and them went through, but all the whole generation from way back in the day, you know, from the seven, I mean, when professional wrestling first started, you know, this is just something, you know, I don't want people to get it twisted like we just throw on gear and go out. No, no, no, no. Like you got to really respect it. You know, the sacrifices, man, there's time away from the family. You know, there's all the stuff that we do on the outside that people don't see.

You know, you got to learn how to respect that ring. You can't just jump in the ring before you get in the ring, man. Wipe your feet. You know, the ring is like our sanctuary. You know what I mean?

So not only does it change our lives, you know, we really, all of us who's working here, all the way from the camera people to the people setting up the ring, the lights, the backstage, you know, the catering, like we all are passionate about professional wrestling. And man, this is, I say this all the time: professional wrestling has brought different cultures of people, all different backgrounds together. I mean, I mean, look, brother, obviously, we're here because the love and the passion for professional wrestling. Muslim Yeah, absolutely.

Now. You know, that respect and that love for the ring, you know, I'm sure you've seen talent of all shapes and sizes, but also of all different mentalities. And you had your run on the indies, which you know, set the internet on fire. You got quite a few edits of your time before WWE.

So I want to know what is. What do you see as the biggest difference of Those other promotions, and once you finally get the call from WWE, is it a shift in how they do things? Like, is it a dramatic shift? Describe the difference now that you made the jump.

Well, you know, man, my story was different. You know, I had to be on the independence, you know, and I. was it was a learning process you know for me for my story so Being on the independence, you know, people say, oh, Jacob, you should have been in WWE five years ago. No, no, no. Jacob, it was the right time and it was God's time.

And not only that, man, I needed that time to learn.

Now Thank man. And keep it 100, WWE, the legal, everybody in here made it happen for me to be here, you know, from the background for everybody. But being here, you know, it is another level. It is a whole nother, you know, it's a whole nother platform. There's certain things to do, don't do, you know, but it's also teaching us how to grow, though, as well, you know, as performers, as, you know, just as a person, period, you know.

But man, it's a big shift, you know, from the cameras to the times, just. It's more than what you expect. But it ain't nothing that we can't handle at the end of the day.

Now you got to be. I don't think I know another person that worked with so many family members.

So, like, what is, you know, I know that's got to bring a level of comfortability to you, you know, to be able to be with your cousins and everything to have people watching your back the way.

So, yeah, please explain, you know, how working with your family's been. Yeah, I mean, because we're going to get down to it. You know, I speak about this all the time. There's no other way I would have had it, you know, having Roman, the great stack team, the Usos, Jimmy and Jay, you know, having Solo back here, you know, man, these are the Uses who guide me, you know, who help me. You know what I mean?

So, and no matter if I've been working, you know, longer than Solo on the Independence, no, Solo's been on this level. Way more than me. You know what I mean? So I would have it no other way, you know, to, you know, but my family to guide me. But besides, you know, all the OGs in the back and you know, just our co-workers, you know, man, listen, I'm the one that soaks it all in.

You know, you learn different things every day, you know, especially in this business. But man, I wouldn't have it no other way, man.

So shout out to Roman. Big Jim, you know what I mean? EJ, you know what I mean? Even though we're getting into it, you know what I mean? But man, it's solo.

And that's just me being real, man, just keeping it 100.

Now, you said you got into it 18.

Something I like to, you know, and we're going to hit you with a lot of questions that I like to ask me and my tag team partner, TJ Jefferson, on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast now. Shout out to TJ, though, man.

So, you know, you decided to take the journey at 18. I need to know. What was your welcome to wrestling moment? You know, what was that like a, ooh, okay, yeah, this is what we're doing from now on? Oh man, it was uh it was my first day training.

Yeah, I mean okay. Man, it was the first day of training, man. You know what I mean? Hitting the ropes, really learning. My trainer, Gangrel, man, he didn't let me in the ring.

You know, we really had to learn the foundation. And this is when it goes back to really respecting the business. But, man, it was just something about it, man. It was something about it, man, to where I just fell in love with it. I've always been a fan of professional wrestling.

I mean, man, we grew up in it. We were fans, like, man, we are the biggest fans of professional wrestling. You know what I mean? So. But man, when um When I was just in there, man, just on that grind, just training, you know, Monday, Wednesday.

Not only that, it kept me out of jail, it kept me out the way, it kept me to be a father to my children. You know what I mean? So, once again, I'm not saying this because who my family is, man. This, it really did save my life, man. But touch back on it, man, it was just being in the ring.

It was taking the bumps, it was hitting the ropes. You know what I mean? I just, I just fell in love with it, man. I really did on the first week. But then again, it goes back to what I said earlier.

I had to learn how to respect it. I didn't just get in the ring, start training. No, we had to, everything. I didn't get in the ring. They kept me out the ring for like, Almost a month and a half, you know, before I was actually able to get in there to actually get things going.

You know what I mean? So if you're not, if then you're not getting in the ring, because this is kind of like how, you know, you see sometimes. Basketball coaches make teams practice without a ball. For the first couple of practices.

So, what you, if you're not getting in the ring, explain to the people what your day is consisting of. Oh man, brother, a lot of squats. A lot of lockups. You know what I mean, brother? You know, get down, get up, you know, and then, you know, got to learn the foundation.

You got to learn how, you got to know the difference between holds. You know, I believe my big bro said this, man. You know, you got to know the difference between a wrist lock, I mean, and a wristwatch. You got me.

So, you know, and something that Big Jim has taught me, you know, since I've been younger, you know, Jimmy Uso, you got to know the name of the moves. You know, it ain't just, you know, it's once again, respecting the business. You know what I mean? So. Yeah, man, man, we've been locked in, those now.

You made the move to WWE. You got your family around you. Oh man. You know, I know you right now you're you're former, former United States champion. We're gonna get to that in a minute.

But talk to me about that first singles title, going home as a champion, your first singles title. At Mania. Like, let us know through wh what that what that first mania was like, man. Oh man, well, after y'all showed that picture, man, I wish I could have fixed my hair a little bit better. Nah, but overall, man.

Man, thank you for asking. Shout out to LA Night. Yeah.

man for uh you know putting in the work with me and um you know He's somebody that I jail with very well.

So shout out to LA. But um It was different to have my parents there. Oh man. Man, oh man, yeah, I mean, so not only that, to have a lot of people don't, you know, you got to remember. All of us were on that card on that first night.

Je opened it up. I want a sister, Sister Naomi. You know what I mean? Me and Big Jim and Roman. And Solo was also there, too, because he was so it was a day, period, just for our family.

But man, waking up, going into it. Very emotional, you know. If anybody knows, I love my kids. I got seven kids, man.

So, uh, to have my son there, to have him sit front row, you know, it was awesome, man. Man, not only that, man, to have Haku, I didn't even know Haku was coming up to the ring, you know. I mean, hey, hey, but let's be real: who was gonna stop him anyway? Who was gonna stop him, you know? But man, it was very special, man.

To have my parents, I had all my Anawais were there because of Roman, because of Jay, uh, my uncle Rakeesh, man. Man, it just. It's something I really dreamed of. And you know what? I didn't even think we were going to have a match, you know, at WrestleMania.

So when it did come about and uh it was it was mind-blowing, man. And uh shout out to uh Las Vegas. A lot of our family stays out there as well.

So not only that, man, I just seen a picture with me a couple And two days ago, with me actually winning it, and man, to see the picture from the back, to see the crowd. Yeah.

It's real cool, man. I mean, I'm very thankful. If y'all know me, man, y'all know I'm very thankful, man. Man, I don't take none of this for granted, bro.

Now, when you do a mania, do you. Because I know The only thing I did athletically was play basketball in my youth. And I know when you are in between the lines, You can't hear or see nothing at the game. Man.

So, like, walking down the ramp, are you even fully taken in? That stadium, or is it just locked in? Let me do what I got to do, and I can relax when we're done. You know what? It was a...

So when I came out, I was supposed to wear the mask all the way. All right. But I was so excited. I was so excited at such a big moment. I didn't want to fall.

So I took the mask off and colon.

So if you see me running down, like I'm supposed to walk and take my time. And you know what? But man, I was so hyped. You know, I came out first. LA came out second.

So I was so hyped, bro. I think I was skipping down the aisle. I think I did something like that. But man, when I got in there and uh I was uh and LA came out, then the lights kinda dropped. You know, that's when I That's when I really just was looking around enjoying it.

You know, then I see my son in the crowd and. Man, bro, it just uh After that, man, it was go time. You know what I mean? But especially when you hear LA Night's music, I mean, come on, man. Like, we don't hear that.

You know what I mean? L.A. Night.

So it was a good moment, man, being in there, really soaking everything in while Knight was coming down, you know, coming down the runway.

Now, besides You s you mentioned gangrel. And you mentioned LA Night. Besides your family members. Who in the back has really Helped you, you know, moving forward with all of this, you know, this newfound Samoan werewolf. Man, um A lot of our agents, man, uh Shout out to Big Ken.

Hurricane, Michael Hayes, definitely a lot. Mr. Bobby Roode, definitely a lot. You know, um, man, road dog, you know, hunter, you know, um, not only that, just to get all the um. A lot of OGs involved, you know, like.

truth or, you know, even uh getting um Just being able to be blessed and get feedback and knowledge from Cody, from Cena, you know, from Taker. I mean, man. I'm, you know, a lot of people would love just to hear their intake on certain things. And I'm very blessed just to, just to, you know, just to get feedback and advice and knowledge, you know, unpaid, you can't pay for this type of knowledge. You know what I mean?

So. Man, it's been the whole team. It really has. It really, really has, man. The way they brought me in and developed everything.

You know, yeah, I did my part, but man, it's really all the OGs and the agents, man.

So shout out to the whole team in the back. Yeah, you know. And the writers, man, the writer, everybody. I mean. everybody, you know, so.

And man, it's been one hell of a road so far, bro.

Now, you know, we all know on the road to greatness, in order to be great, you never. You never do it by yourself, you know?

So that's why I wanted to give you the opportunity to shout out some people that, you know, deserve it. And, you know, you will. are I don't know if you notice But um you kind of a a tank. You kind of, you know, this unstoppable, indestructible force when you're in the ring. Is there, all gas, no breaks is a real thing.

Now, I want to know: is there a move that you don't like getting hit with, or have you ever. Marv. Accidentally caused somebody with something a little A little too hard. Man, so. I mean, I think I backflipped on Knight's face before.

I did. Yeah, I backflip. Man, man, man, my whole knee came down on bro. Hey, man, we be having good. Hey, most of the time, I'm on point.

Right, right, right. But it happens, it happens. It ain't ballet. Yeah, I mean, come on now, but uh... Man, what a.

JC Mateo's Moonsault. I call it the flying dolphin because he looks like a dolphin when he looks at it.

So that damn thing, yeah, bro. That thing was definitely I. You feel me? Hit you with the I real quick. But yeah, man.

It's been JC, probably JC. And damn, I don't never like when solo on them be. Whipping on me, you know what I mean? But definitely JC's thing. But overall, man, yeah, that's it, man.

I think I did catch night, bro. Damn, I probably should have never said that. But shout out LA. Shout out to Pal A. Looking for it.

You mentioned Solo and his crew. They've been jumping you, man. They've been jumping you. It was my brothers. You know what I mean?

I feel you, but. Always be your people's, you know. Yeah, be your own, it'd be your own, TJ. Always. Hey, hey, come on.

Hey, bro. We know what we're talking about, hey. Always be your own. But now, on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, my man TJ Jefferson, the mind of TJ Jefferson, came up with this thing called Creative Liberties. All right.

Okay.

Now, we as wrestling fans, we always thinking, like, man, it would be dope if this happened. What are the chances? Because I'm seeing you get jumped a lot, man, and I don't like it.

Solo keeping that title. And I'm looking at MFT, it's about four of them. And I'm looking at a survivor series, and so I want to ask: what are the chances? that we get. Jay, Jimmy, Jacob, and Joe.

AKA Roman Reigns, that's alliteration, by the way. That's alliteration, by the way. But what's the chances that we're talking about? He named us Harlow James, too. You gotta call the cousins, man, to get solo in line, man.

Any chances? Have you thought about it? Or right now it's just because of the two brands we split? Yeah, bruh, you know. We just split, but I never even thought about that.

But man, bro, man, that dude sounds good. Because obviously, bro, your boy needs some help right now. No, but hey, man, I never thought about that, man. But it will be good once again. This comes the family, baby.

You know what I mean? That would be a special moment for me. You know what I mean? I mean, not for me, but everybody, but no, but that never crossed my mind, though, brother. And I'm saying, we all know Tomatonga is going to be coming back.

Right. We all know it's another Fatu out there, but we'll say, you know, we'll save that. Did we save it? Because we know someone's only one call away. Yeah.

All right. There is someone back there. Yeah, brother, brother. One call away. And we're waiting on him.

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Zilla Fatal. Shout out to Zilla Fatu. You know what I mean? For sure.

Now, something I want to ask you before we don't have any time, because I want to give you time to answer this one. On the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, our number one question we have to bring here to the Rich Isaac Show because we got this Moan Werewolf, Jacob Fatu. And he's been the answer to many. Yeah, you've been in a lot of these.

So it's great to hear your answer.

Okay, for sure.

So, it got to be all gas, no breaks with it, man. You know what I mean, man?

So, you in a bar. It's 50 dudes in that bar that don't want you in there. I need you to pick a team of you and four other superstars to make sure you making it to the car. And they could be superstars of any era, Jacob, not just today. Yeah.

You could pull from the past and have them help you get to the stage.

Okay, well, bro, you know who we're going to have to lead the way. It's Mr. Andre the Giant.

So, hey, bro, so me, it's going to have to be Andre. You know what I mean? Andre, bro, it got to be the great. Baby, hit you with the tongue and death grip around there. I mean, and then, okay, so that's three.

Oh man, hold on, bro. Oh, damn, bro. I didn't know how tough this was. Yeah, that's why I want to give you time. That's why I want to give you a ton of time.

I know I touched this.

Okay, so definitely, Andre. Who else I get? You said Andre Haku. I got to get my uncle Magamain. This is a scary team so far, too.

Come on, come on, come on. And you got one more, one more pick. Oh, man, who was in there that didn't play around, bro? Who didn't play? Harley Race.

I'm going to go with Harley Race. Wow. Yes. Come on. Come on with it, bro.

Come on with it. He's still going to be very happy to hear Harley Race get mentioned. And Andre counts as three men, so you might need, there might need to be 75 cats in the bar. Yeah, Andre. Even then, it ain't going to work.

Andre gonna go in there spinning. Yeah.

After that, he might just end up playing cards and stuff around there. You know what I mean? Yeah, so, bro, yeah, damn, bro. That's the squad right there. That's deep.

That's deep right there.

So, TJ, that's Andre. Andre Haku. Haku. Harley Race. Harley Race.

Umaga. Umaga and Jacob. Jacob, come on now. Very good. It's a rap.

Change your name to Saran because it's a rap right there. Yeah, leaving. And that was a good saying right there, man. What did you say? Change your name to Saran because it's a rap.

Change your name to Saran because it's a rap. Jacob, you should use that on Friday and just think of no contest with us, baby.

Well, bro, I was actually about to throw it on the t-shirt. That's why I said you said again. Hit the merch, TJ. Man, dude, this has been a great conversation, man. I'm trying to think what.

Oh, is there a match you ain't had yet that you're dying to have? You know, there's. The Hells in a Cell. Jeff Hardy. Yeah?

Yeah, Jeff Hardy, man. You want to have a match with Jeff? Man, man, one of the dopest, man. You know what I mean? Jeff, I'm a huge fan of Tajiri.

Not only that, man. Eventually, obviously, all the gentlemen here, man, you know, everybody here, because everybody's a great worker. You know, I was very blessed to, you know, even work with Boston's own, man. Carmelo Hayes, Andrade, Chapa, Johnny. I mean, you know, I used to watch these cats, you know what I mean?

So to come over here and just, man, just to be able to be blessed and work and tie up and, you know, I mean, and the mango with these cats, man, is awesome. But, man, there's a lot of cats, though. You know, my uncle taught us, man, you know, you got to learn how to gel with everybody, you know, if you want to really know how to move around here.

So just anybody, man. Jacob, man, everybody in this room talks about the talent that you have. We believe in you, man. We know that you're a future world champion, but right now, you're a good man, dude. You're a good guy.

And we appreciate your time with us here on the Rich Isaac Show. Enjoy your day. For sure.

Hey, bro, shout out to my wife and my kids, though. 100. You feel me? That's smart, though. That's a smart man.

Hey, come on now. Come on now. Come on now. But hey, love and respect, though, big bro. Thank y'all again, man.

I really appreciate everything, man. Until we're tapping back in, all gas, no breaks with it. Y'all don't know what I mean, though. Shake your fuck too, everybody. Peace, bro.

That was awesome. All right, first one up, Ryan Cranston. True or false, one of your first gigs was a Preparation H commercial. True or false? Oh, come on.

That is false. Oh, gosh. Look at that photo. That's very Roy Schneider. Isn't it?

Isn't that good right there? Or train it? Roy Schneider is really good. What do you think? Or what's that talk show host who has those big red glasses?

What's her name? Sally Jesse Raffaelle. Sally Jesse Raffaelle. Sally Jesse Raffaelle. Good call.

Good zombie. That was good. Good call. Yeah.

So what happened? This is truly a huge one. It's called a job, Rich. I know you haven't been job hunting in a while. Oh, Mr.

Employment, steady employment guy.

Well, you're not, you know, actors, you got to say yes.

Well, this was, at least I was a spokesperson. I wasn't afflicted by hemorrhoids. You know what? Well, in real life. If I was afflicted, I would trust you.

To get me the right put that ointment on to go. There we go. Let's take care of this little problem. I didn't mean the administering of the operation. Oh, I'm like you said, I'm a full-service spokesperson.

We don't just stop with talking about it. Come on. Is that why you brought your alcohol? I bring my alcohol so I can soak my face. Oh, yeah.

It kills. It just kills everything out of that. True or false, you did your own stunts on Malcolm in the middle, including wearing a suit of 10,000 live bees. That also is false. That never happened.

Oh, God. You keep on having a photo press. But those are real? Those are real. That's 10,000 bees.

I forget how many the count it was, but they would extract the pheromones from the queen. And they would put the droplets all over me wherever they wanted the bees to go. Then they'd open up the traveling chutes, and the bees would just start swarming. And they swarm forever. In order for them to stay off my face so the camera could recognize me, you take a little of the, you know, the bug spray, an off or whatever, and they put it all over my face there so that they would crawl, oh, no, I don't want that, and they'd get off it.

But it was about About two inches thick of bees.

So I got stung once in the shoulder when they were getting them off. But once when I was doing that whole thing and I had to stand very still, one got between my legs and I got stung. And I said, oh, I think I got stung. Because when you're wearing bees, Rich. The chance of being stung is pretty high.

Yes. You're wearing bees, for God's sake.

So, but what I realized is that the sting of a bee is not really painful. It is mostly the shock that gets you. Your bomb, jeez. Just something just. But when you're wearing bees and you get stung, it was literally.

Yeah.

I think I Did I get stung? Ah, I did get stung. And the beekeeper comes over ready with a little credit card thing and a thing to scoop it out. He goes, Where is it? I go, in my scrotum.

And he goes, can't help you. That's exactly what it is. Can't help me. My goodness. Pay that man.

Jacob Fatu, what a guy. That was really good. That was really good. Well done, boys. It's really good.

And also, that Brian Cranston clip that we just played for TV. I. I had to do a show. Called Swagger. It came out on Apple.

And for some reason, season two. We had a scene that had live bees, and the director insisted. That they be live bees. This is Apple. You can make some digital bees because get this, TJ.

Bees don't show up on camera when it's just a few of them. They're black dots, you know? Uh-huh. And yeah, so we were at the scene was we were at this detention center for. Teenagers.

And part of one of the rehab programs was they taught them beekeeping. And so all the You know, the Campbees had Beekeeper suits on. But the principal actors, nope. We're visitors. Gotta see your face.

Yeah, visitors wouldn't get beekeeper suits. O'Shea Jackson Jr. did not get stunk, but Isaiah Hill got stunked two times. Yeah, not me. I'm an absolute trader, bro.

He got real B's. And it's because his wife. Did uh the director's wife, who's also a director, Shout out to the Bythe Woods, by the way. Uh she did a uh A movie called The Secret Life of Bees. And so he was doing it as a nod to his wife.

Oh, nice. Call her. Get her up. You know, the whole time, don't do this to us. You know, we're in danger.

Because you want to say hi to your wife, Reggie. Just because Gina's a lovely lady. She makes love at basketball. I appreciate you. I'm going to make an ode to you in my film.

Yes. I put this child in danger along with National Treasurer O'Shea Jackson Jr. I will never forgive you, Reggie. Never forgive you. He also liked.

Makes us lose in season two. Spoiler alert. Oh man. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. I know. No, Apple canceled the show. Oh, now I can't watch. Oh, you can watch.

Will that help you any if I go back and re-watch? Oh, okay, great.

Well, as you do the rotten tomato score. Yeah, man, I want to help my friend, you know, that's all. Thank you, man. That's the nicest thing a Celtic has ever offered me. Probably the nicest thing they will ever offer.

Yeah, exactly, dude. I mean, I had some frosted flakes in the back. He didn't want any. Come on, man. You got the king-size box of frosted flakes.

I wasn't messing around yesterday. It's a big box. I wasn't messing around. I was hungry. What is this cereal discourse?

I mean, we're going to have to get into it because in 10 seconds, we got to say goodbye to our friends on radio.

Well, 15. It's in my ear. I feel like the Miz. All makes sense. He was not getting the end of breaks yesterday, the last couple of days.

Yeah.

It was his first time doing it. I know I did it. Hold on. Bye, radio. Hello, TV.

Still on Roku. Hello, TV, man. Hello, Roku. Listen, I know they say the revolution will now be televised, but I look too damn good on television.

So here I am. Here he goes. Here he goes. This guy. This guy.

Now, I swear I was supposed to read something, but I can't for the life. We got three minutes to kill, guys. We got Ariel coming up. Ariel Hawani, bro. Ariel Hawani.

We got a big second hour. Yeah, dude. This is where the real meat and potatoes are about to be. That's right. That's right.

What an appetizer with Jacob. I mean, that guy, he was like the shrimp cocktail of this show today. Yeah, by the way, gross. Not a shrimp kacha. Cold shrimp.

What? Like, that's disgusting. Cold shrimp in tangy cold. Hold on a second. And I mean this with the utmost respect.

Is that a. Black thing? Probably. Maybe. You know, it could be.

We like our shrimps cooked. Yeah, a little bit. Our scrimps. Yeah.

Something. You know, a little cocktail sauce, a little big old juicy, big four-inch shrimp. Chris, and I mean this, I mean this with the utmost seriousness. Ew. Ew, bro.

Gross. Ew. I'm not judging. I'm just kind of shy. Delicious.

Is it, though? Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, you know.

Some fried shrimp. We can't yuck his yum, bro. Can't yuck his yum. It's all good. More for me.

Yeah.

Listen, you can't do that. I'll take yours and I'll take yours. That's more for me. Send it down to my boy Brock Shades. Yeah.

Brazil, send these cold shrimps to Brockman. Yeah.

They're dead. Mike. They're delicious. They are. All right.

Yeah, of course. Not judging. Of course, they are. Not judging. Yeah, bro.

Well, I mean, but you, you, you a New Englander. Yeah, I'm, I, I like seafood. I'm from New England. Yeah.

I mean, I'm California. I do love me some seafood, but it's just the cold. It's like it's no effort. It's like it's no effort. It's like they don't leave to it.

Well, it's like a bachelor's thing to eat. Like, if you just got some stuff and you just throw it together, you know? Like, oh man, I left the shrimp out. They thawed, but they're not really bad, but they kind of cold still. They found them right now.

They're going to go bad tomorrow.

So let me just. I mean, they're cooking. Ketchup in a cell. It's just cold. It's just cold.

That's all. Cooked and cold don't go together. Yeah.

Mm. Cooked and cold, that's that's crazy.

Okay.

You know, I don't cook my ice cream. Yes, but that is like a Chinese delicacy, the fried ice cream. That's fire. That's true. Nobody up here is disrespecting fried ice cream.

Okay, good. Yeah, man. But shrimp cocktail, I mean, you can have it. I might send you some just to watch you eat it. Not for nothing.

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