Dan Wetzel: Michigan Wants To Suspend Sherrone Moore For Week Three And Four

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And the New York Knicks stun the Celtics. Today's guests. ESPN senior writer, Dan Wetzel. Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean. Senior writer for the MMQB, Albert Breer. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

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And of course, you're streaming us live right now, watching us on the Roku Sports Channel. And I'm smiling. That would be weird to start the show that way every single day. But you know, this day in particular, it's kind of one of those days. It's one of those days where, you know, I turn to Chris Brockman and I start the program and ask how he's doing. How you doing over there, Chris? You good? I mean, I've been better, to be honest.

But look, anytime you can celebrate getting a win-win, it literally takes the worst shooting night in NBA history. Hey, you gotta do it. I don't understand. You gotta do it. TJ, do you understand?

It literally took an act of God for you to win that game. Do you understand? Just soak it in. What's the heat? I'm just saying hello.

Who told them they had to take that many threes? I'm just saying hello. Can we just get right into it? I'm just engaging.

I'm so hot. Let's just get right into it. I haven't said hello to Mike till two for you. Nobody cares how Mike is doing. Let's just get right to the good stuff. Even when you lose, I win.

There's actually a drop that says nobody cares about him, actually, that does exist. But, you know, I'm just saying hello to you to see how you're doing, which I do every day. And today you're taking it differently. I'm not doing great. And I'm wondering why. I'm not doing great. Actually, I'm just kidding. I'm doing fine. Not great.

I'm totally fine. Isn't that awesome? I just don't understand, you know, the hostility, the hostility, you know, it's almost as if there was a miscommunication here or something a bit off or clanking somewhere or chipping the side of a of a backboard or something being missed over and over and over. And it's like in white man, Ken Chubb, when Woody Harrelson is like, what is this, a masonry convention? Actually, at one point, it looked more like a long cane poly, to be honest with you, if you want to do some sort of an analogy. You know, I was I was thinking Spice Adams was going to hoist one. I can feel it.

Shout out to Philip Seibert. I mean, you got to be creative to miss forty five three pointers. Why are you taking that many?

It don't make no sense. Actually took sixty. I know. Actually, at one point in the fourth quarter between just under the six minute mark and just under the three and a half minute mark, Jalen Brunson made as many three pointers as the Celtics did after halftime.

Three. And listen, it's we're we're marathoning. We're not sprinting.

I understand that. But that last night for New York Knicks fans who enjoyed the regular season, 51 wins, back to back 50 win seasons and even some New York Knicks fans who were lamenting the Carl Anthony Towns acquisition. And at one point with Carl Anthony Towns chilling on the bench with three first half fouls and then struggling to make his mark in the second half against the Celtics team that is missing Chris Taps Porzingis, who was drafted by the Knicks in the same draft in which Carl Anthony Towns was taken number one overall. You know, there were some lamenting for Julius Randall and Dante Vincenzo. But for that team that and that fan base that watch the Celtics rain in 84 threes on the Knicks in sweeping them four games to none, kicking their teeth in this entire regular season. Last night was a lot of fun.

Heck of a lot of fun. And I'd be honest with you, I showed massive amounts of restraint in the text chain last night. I didn't send a thing. I was a church mouse last night. I could hear a mouse peeing on cotton. It was so quiet. Listen to you with that analogy. It's vivid. What were you going to say, though?

I mean, like I said, I don't know. Literally took the worst outside shooting performance at NBA history and to win the game like the cell. Hold on. The Celtics shot. Let me just look at the numbers. Twenty five percent.

If they shot twenty six percent. Yes, you lost. So like, how are you feeling good today? I don't know. I'm looking at the result and I'm a results oriented guy. I've heard that about, you know, and it's a situation.

I'm a results oriented guy. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch much basketball this year, but did they change the rules? Is it a one game series now for the second round? No, it's not. Oh, interesting.

It's definitely not. But they didn't change the rules where one team has more points than the other wins. And that happened last night.

New York tradition of celebrating April victory and May victories. Soak this in, buddy. I mean, congrats. What's wrong with you, man?

What's wrong with me? I was just looking at the oh, I love that photo. That photo right there. Oh, gee. The banner is basically like this is this is the this is the basketball equivalent of what Shaq once asked Kobe what sent them to.

And tell me how I don't taste. Can we play back this segment in like six weeks when making sports when there's a parade in Boston, it did look very broke. You know, as Baroque last night was the three point shooting of the Boston Celtics that come on, man, I'm having my father. We didn't just win any game as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, the Knicks have not won a road game one in the second round of the playoffs. I know that's a very small subset since the Van Gundy era.

It's been a long time and been a way a long time. And Jalen Brunson and Oji Ananobi got it done. And Josh Hart does all the dirty work. Bridges didn't have a great shooting night but came up with the big finish, making sure Jalen Brown didn't take a three point shot. He only made one of 10 anyway, going in even if he got it up, you know, so we'll see what happens moving on.

But that was beyond satisfying as a New York Knick guy who is back in the fold thanks to Jalen Brunson, who is just as clutch as it comes and is just dynamite as it comes. But so that's just one game. We'll see what they do the rest of the way. In the rest of the NBA playoffs, larger picture. I did mention that that Julius Randle Dante DiVincenzo acquisition by the Minnesota Timberwolves and tonight that duo in a surprise home court advantage in the second round for a six seed.

That's kind of rare, but they are attempting to become the first home team to win in round number two. So we all know the Pacers started things off against the injured, banged up Cavs by drawing blood in round two, game one of that series and the Knicks one on the road last night and the Nuggets down 10 with about eight minutes to go shocked the Oklahoma City Thunder and Chet Holmgren had a shot to put the team up by three from the line with less than 10 seconds to go, missed both free throws. The second free throw that he missed, it was like, did you see Russell Westbrook just took off down the court to try and, you know, run, you know, run a fast break and, and nobody got the rebound. I think Brown had to come Christian Brown had to come and grab it. And then did start find found Ross who found Aaron Gordon, who shot the game winning three over Chet Holmgren who had a rough fourth quarter. And this photograph will show you that in the long run, in the end, the 68 win Oklahoma City Thunder in their first home game in the second round of these playoffs, their most impressive achievement was getting everybody to wear the same shirt.

And that's impressive, right? By the way, as a Philly fan, a Nick fan and a Celtic fan all in the room, if you told people in Boston and Philadelphia and, and, and New York, Hey, you got to wear the same thing tonight. We'll put, we'll put, we'll put the, we'll put the, the shirt on the, on the back of the chair and everybody's going to wear it. That's that's that, by the way, that's connectivity.

I didn't think it really ever existed. I think the Knicks fans would do the Sixers, dude, not in the front row, the front row, Warren Alonzo away Jersey of their day, which we covered over and over again, last week, we didn't have an option of a shirt hanging on the seat, but congrats to the nuggets who are showing, you know, by the way, and that series, if the nuggets win this one, it would lend them beyond credence. The fact that Shay Gil just Alexander is not the MVP of the league. The guy who went 40 and 20 last night is the MVP of the league and just isn't the MVP of the league because everybody's tired of making him such.

So there you go. The Thunder lose a shocker. The Knicks take a shocking W down 20, which is 25 points fewer than the number of threes the Celtics missed last night. And the Pacers draw first blood too. Dare I say, anybody can win the NBA championship from here on out.

I don't think that anybody can win it. And I know that saying a lot, the NBA odds didn't even move yesterday. There is a reason why some teams that go up three to one in a series wins 90% of the time, because you still have to marathon it.

You can't sprint it. The number of times a game one goes one way and it's the exact opposite in game two and then the exact opposite in game three, we've lost track. Calves are banged up.

Your C's aren't very healthy either. I don't know what's going on with Porzingis. It seemed like it was an illness, not anything physically, not anything, not the illness that kept him out for a month.

Unclear. He kind of left and the reports were like, well, Porzingis is not on the bench. I didn't see him go to the locker room. And then he never returned. And it was a quick he's not coming back.

Not like he's getting fluids or it's not like one of those things where he's coming off of COVID or a flu, whatever, and he needs IV bags or anything like that. And I think that really, really affect the game plan. Obviously, you had no one to run the rim. You had no inside post presence. And what happens is, as a result, you get 63 point attempts, which is absolutely insane.

Well, I mean, one dribble, two steps. It was 15 for 60. I don't want to give you the, you know, you got to, what do you mean? Don't want to make it as bad as it was. It was 15 or 60.

It was 25%. Okay. I think Delta two folk could go do that right now. Okay.

I might be able to. Hey. And we'll see. The Timberwolves can win it. Nuggets can win it. Oklahoma City can win it. Your Celtics can win it. The odds don't reflect that. I mean, the odds are still heavily Oklahoma City and Boston. And I think that's going to end up what we're going to get in the finals. You know, just it's going to take one extra game to get there.

Okay. One extra game. All the home teams lost and the odds didn't change at all. Didn't change at all.

Oh, that's weird. I don't know, man. My eye test, my eye, my eyes see, you know, Russell Westbrook playing out of his skull and Jamal Murray doing Jamal Murray things more often than he did consistently in the regular season. Jokic doing what he's doing. Ant-Man taking center stage tonight against the Warriors team. That's going to be one hell of a tough out and they can go on a run and win it.

I mean, the Pacers took game one and they have the worst odds to win the title. I don't understand that. 30 to 1.

I don't get it. Other than the fact that nobody, I don't know. They play just as consistently with John Halliburton, not there. The Nuggets are 15 to 1 to win the title.

I mean, great value, but in terms of people thinking that they can win it. Who are the people? I mean, I never know who these people are. The desert people who know everything.

Okay. They can't know everything. No. The desert people. The desert people. I don't think they've ever been wrong. Hmm.

I see that alone does sounds a little weird. Jokic has just took the Nuggets just took game one on the road. Everybody's wearing the same t-shirt and Jokic goes 42 22 and six. Okay. And by the way, he, is he the interim coach too? Seems like he's emoting the huddle in a way I haven't seen him. Yeah. Okay. And he's like taking over the huddle. He's he's doing things we haven't seen. Right.

Who else? You've got the Knicks taking game one. You got a championship team in the Nuggets.

You got a championship team in the Celtics. You got the Cavs having the most, by the way, the three teams with the most regular, maybe this is why the odds haven't changed. The three teams with the three best records still remaining all lost. They all lost.

The teams that all won 60 plus this year all lost. Yeah. A lot of good that worked that did in game one. It's it's, it's, it's a way to go. That was, that was a heck of a lot of fun.

I was flying high until Devin Williams took the bump at any rate, but that's for another day. Yeah. Thanks for that.

I have Rodone and fantasy nice, nice blown wind there. Yeah. It's my fault.

It's definitely your fault. Okay. 844-204-rich is the number to dial. Brea Brea is going to call us an hour. A number zoom with us in hour three. Brandon Bean's going to zoom with us. The Buffalo Bills general manager in hour number two. So we've got a little football on a, on a, on the brain.

844-204-rich is the number to dial. We got a fun, if you will, call to action today for people to chime in and, and chit chat with us. And you want to unveil what that is Chris right away?

Oh, so I was thinking about this. We're looking at this day in history. So on this date in 1954, long time ago, none of us, even TJ wasn't born yet. 61 years ago.

Considering he's both of them are older than me. 71 years ago. Roger Bannister became the first person to ever run a sub four minute mile.

A huge mark in track and field in that, in that world in Oxford, England. What is something in sports you would like to see done for the first time? Okay. Excellent. Well, it's kind of crazy cause one was already done last night.

So I wanted to see 45. So scratch that one off the list. Hold on a minute. Scratch that one.

Chris, it's your boy. We're not friends. People always ask, are you guys friends outside of work? No, the answer is no. We are not friends. You guys represent the same smart tech.

That's your boy. That's an interesting question. It's an interesting question. Smart. My bad.

I was off on that. Only 44 more to go. All right. Uh, we'll take a break when we come back.

She's your boy, the man who broke. Listen, and I can take news. I don't want to hear and delve into it. I don't know if you can though.

I can. I mean, you're very defensive about this particular type of news, but, but, but easily turned down the, the, the, um, the opportunity to have Dan what's on the program. As a matter of fact, we reached out to him to see what's professional of his insight.

And it's his picture nicer and better since he went to ESPN. I mean, that's what happens. You get a glow.

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Sometimes he can't even focus. But the thing is you gotta like set up when you want. I mean, I didn't know if you were waiting for when Dan was on. No, no, no. See, this is like, yeah, it's like, I really did show excellent restraint. I really did. I, I, I really did because I was, you know, basically you know, I'll, I'll just run you through the beats.

I don't care. Honestly, when Kat had three fouls, you know, I'm like, Mr. Mr. you know, thumb on the scale with the officiating over there now, but they never do it for the Celtics. One big fat thumb. You know, I thought, I thought Thibodeau should have challenged the third foul on Kat because Hart pushed whoever was going to the basket. I think it was Jalen Brown, but the Celtics kept on having Jalen Brown on Kat and that wasn't going very well at all. But then the Knicks kept on mismatch switching off in the fourth quarter. Al Horford was guarding everybody. He was, he's also 800 years old.

I love it when, I love it when he's on the perimeter cause he's still, he's still a highly efficient shot blocker. Well, at any rate, so I was going to go there, but then I was going to start, you know, talking smack. So I just did it to my 14 year old. And I just, I just stayed off it, even though it took you 20 minutes to send me a trolling text yesterday after Dan Wetzel's story hit our text chain. I mean, technically that was me. No, no, it was 30 seconds. Oh no, I'm sorry. You were counting me down back to break, Mike. My bad.

Cause it felt like 30 seconds, you know? Well, the truth, the truth hurts and then when you're allowed to, I was going to go truth hurts last night, but I'm like, when you're allowed to illegally screen on every high pick and roll, then yeah, you're going to get open shots. Excellent. Fantastic. You just got to make them.

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I'm doing well. I'm glad to walk into this hornet's nest. Guys might need a work counselor or something like that. HR.

This series may pull you guys apart. Dan, the problem is, is Brockman is HR around. I'm head of HR, Dan. That's a larger issue.

That's my kind of HR director. That's a larger issue for another day. Let's get to your reporting with Pete Famil.

I'll give you the floor and what you reported yesterday and I can start following up here. Dan. All right. Well, Michigan is expected to suspend head coach Sharon Moore two games this upcoming season. Self-imposed suspension of the head coach in ahead of the finally NCA hearing on the Connor Stallions advanced scouting sign stealing situation that happened back in 2023. This stems from a level two violation that the NCA put on Moore for deleting a text thread between Stallions and himself.

He was the offensive coordinator in 2023. The day the story first broke. He deleted that text right now. They found the text. You don't really delete anything on your phone. Word to the wise.

Don't don't bother. They're going to find it and he ends up he's going to miss two games because he deleted it. If he hadn't, there's nothing incriminating in the text thread, but it was deemed a failure to comply or that was the allegation and so he's going to get suspended on the interesting wrinkle. It is games three and four that Michigan want to suspend him for, not games one and two, which would make kind of more sense to most of us. We don't know exactly why, but the theory is game two for the Wolverines is at Oklahoma where Sharon Moore graduated from and played offensive line. So perhaps he wants to coach at Oklahoma, which would be a great moment for him. And then he'll set out Central Michigan and at Nebraska.

A good sooner he doesn't want to go to Lincoln. So maybe that's it, but that's the two games suspended. The NCAA does not have to accept this, but usually they do.

Well, I don't know. Michigan self suspended Jim Harbaugh for three games and then the Big Ten came in for three more later on in the season. And that's still not enough, I guess, for the NCAA, but you pointed out this is separate from Harbaugh. It has specifically to do with Sharon Moore because he deleted texts and you already front loaded the answer to my next question.

No, no, it's fine. It's what was in it because it sounds like, oh, he's suspended for two, he's going to suspend himself for two games. There must be something incriminating in those texts that he deleted. So we do know what was in those texts. What's to the best of your knowledge what were in the text that Sharon Moore in that chain with Connor Stallions that he deleted, Dan?

Nothing that indicated that he knew what Connor Stallions was doing is really it. And I mean, they were things like, hey, don't forget to talk to this recruit. There was, I mean, it's really only about 57 text messages over a few years. So it wasn't like they were in constant communication or anything. There were some, hey, this is the blitz package. I think there was something about a blitz package that Michigan State uses or something like that. But again, this would be normal text that an analyst, which I think would best describe Connor Stallion's role, official role and a coordinator would have right would be, hey, this is what's going on. It wasn't it was not Sharon Moore saying, hey, make sure you scout the Buckeye game to send your cousin to the Buckeye game to film the sideline. That did not occur. So there's still no knowledge, no information.

And believe me, the NSA would be all over it if there was that Sharon Moore knew what Connor Stallions was doing. But this is, again, more of a process crime. This is how these kind of things go in and say violation. So on that, that Harbaugh, his first three games, you got, you know, Rich, you've been through a lot.

You've highs and lows. There's a lot of there's a lot of violations, a lot of cases in Michigan. The first one, three game suspension was for the hamburger, the cheeseburger, right? The cheeseburger meeting with three meeting with recruits during a dead period. Right. Which has been turned into a cheeseburger for by the Michigan fans.

You can't you can't meet with recruits when you're not allowed to. It was during covid. So that was what did that one. And then the other three were by the Big Ten for the Connor Stallion situation. Right. There's a lot of suspensions.

True. Moore was suspended before. This is his second suspension. But to your point about the suspensions, Michigan had tried to get a different suspension of four games for for Harbaugh. And the NCAA rejected it, wanted six.

I don't know where that ended up. Harbaugh is going to get hit on this thing, probably with a show cause that he can't coach in college football for a couple of years, which means absolutely nothing. So, you know, I don't know what penalties are coming from Michigan, but I don't think there's going to be a whole lot more, perhaps, than losing sure or more for a couple of games, some recruiting restrictions, things like that.

We will say that. Well, I mean, the irony is that if he if Jerome Moore misses the Central Michigan game, Dan, that that's the sideline on which Connor Stallion showed up like he was Bobby Valentine trying to sneak back into the dugout, you know, in one of the most comical, if it was funny situations of this whole thing that is beyond pathetic with with Connor Stallion's. And that's kind of where I'm landing, Dan, is at this point in time, when when does the NCAA put up or shut up? When when when does this actually hit?

Like, what do you have? Well, instead of Michigan suspending their coach on their own right, making it seem like these 50 some odd texts that he had or that he did a race were incriminating and he must have known. And there's an asterisk to Team 144, despite Charlie Baker, the NCAA president saying it's fair and square. When when does this end? When when do we get a this is what we've got? This is what you did. This is what you're getting.

Now tell us where we're wrong. Otherwise, you shut up and you cough up games or heaven forbid for for my situation, a banner. Dan, when does that happen? Well, yeah, Sharon could go with the Connor Stallion's alleged to Connor Stallion's disguise, I guess, and show up on the sideline. That would be great. I would love that.

That would be a comedy. But other than that, we don't we don't know where those where those spy glasses are. Those have never been retrieved. Great moments in college football history. Well, the hearing is going to be June 6th and 7th, I believe, or seventh and eight, something like that. And they will finally have their hearing and the NCAA will issue punishment after that. You know, will they strip victories? Would they do a future postseason ban?

I don't I don't know. Generally speaking, there isn't a lot the NCAA could do anymore in this era of revenue sharing and an NIL that really impacts like even cutting number of, you know, scholarships. Right. Your quarterback, Bryce Underwood, is being paid seven figures to go to Michigan. I think he can afford to be a walk on if necessary. Right. They don't need the in-state tuition for for Bryce.

I think he could cut it. So there's just limitations to what the NSA can do. I don't I don't know what they're going to come up with. They have not ever found a widespread understanding that Connor Stallion's actions were very far beyond Connor Stallion's and a couple other guys in that maybe a couple other guys in that in his kind of level. So, again, if anything, Sharon Moore should have never deleted the text because they in some ways, you know, made him look good, you know, but, you know, validated that he did not know.

So but this is where we're at. This is how I'd say violations go. They often end up being being process crimes.

It's really hard to catch anybody doing anything without, you know, real police power, even in the days of electronic communication. And then the last one on this is what's your expectation level once the hearing is concluded? And and when we will get an answer from the NCAA that this this episode sorted or otherwise is over, I'd have to I'd have to relook at my NCAA policies, but I think it's like within 45 days, they'd have a so something before the season. Again, I don't think they're going to strip any title.

I don't think any of that stuff will happen. I don't know that they can they would have that. But but, you know, the NSA can do whatever they want on this. Maybe they make a big statement on it. They don't have a ton of cases anymore.

Almost everything's legal, just not this. So we will see. But they they've we'll see. We'll see how much Michigan fights back. We'll see whether they can still come in with your own more and say, no, we don't accept games three and four. We're going to make them games one and two.

Right. They could say it has to be four games. Michigan could always rescind it if, say, they moved it and said we want to, you know, I don't know.

So nothing is set. This is just the plan that Michigan is expected to suspend him as a self-imposed punishment to win some some cooperation with the NCA. Well, if this is one of those hearings, we can call witnesses. And if the if if the this committee feels compelled to strip a title on Michigan, I call Charlie Baker to the stand. President Baker, what led you to believe that Michigan was winning fair and square if they were going to beat Washington in the national championship game?

Your thoughts, sir. And just see what he answers, you know. And again, it's just listen, obviously, you know, I come to this conversation with a a certain bias. Fully admit my other degree from Northwestern means I need to disclose such things here, although I think it's quite obvious to everybody.

But forty five days afterwards, I'm keen to hear the response. Dan, before I let you go, the conversation at the draft in Green Bay was significant over Chidor Sanders, as you know. Do you have any opinion from the college angle of this as to why Chidor Sanders wound up a fifth round selection, even though a lot of folks thought some evaluators thought he could possibly go top five? We found out how wrong that was.

But your two cents on it, Dan. You know, I'm not an evaluator, I thought Chidor, so who knows the Chidor I saw was a very good college football player, but was not a great one. He he took a lot of bad sacks.

I don't watch film. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I do all this stuff or know his release or its footwork or anything like that. He took a lot of bad sacks, though, and there were times when just I thought he was a good player, but I was very, very surprised when people had him, you know, the the draft the draft conversation began and people are talking about as a top five pick. And I was like, well, there's boy, there's nobody in this draft. This is a reach to me. I just didn't see it.

And sometimes you don't see it and you're wrong and sometimes, you know, you do, you know, you're right. And to me, Chidor Sanders was a was more of a mid-level pick. And then I think when you get into those rounds, it can be hard to, you know, waste spend a third round pick on a guy.

So there's just limited options on it. So I think if his name wasn't Sanders, there wouldn't have been so much hype about it. And then I think, you know, all the other stuff, the Chidor Sanders I met was incredibly polite and and nice, shook everyone's hand, just, you know, for whatever that's worth. But obviously didn't maybe didn't convey that in the meetings and stuff. Probably didn't run the draft process very well. Just not a pure talent that I think teams were willing to make that risk on. So did I think he'd go fifth around or behind, say, Dylan Gabriel? No, but I wasn't surprised he wasn't a first rounder. Well, you're definitely not wrong about the if his name wasn't Sanders, we wouldn't be discussing it as as as much because Quinton, yours wound up a seventh round draft choice game.

Absolutely. I mean, the former number one recruit overall two final fours in in college football really made an incredible play to win the Arizona State game. It's definitely kind of surprising he dropped so far. So I'm not sure what they're seeing with him. Also, maybe not the greatest athlete. They're really into athletes now. We've had this discussion before, but like what where would Peyton Manning, how would Peyton Manning be discussed? Seriously, like not mobile.

So you say, what do you go number one anymore? Well, obviously, I think Peyton Manning today's game would still be a Hall of Famer and be one of the greatest of all time. But how would they view Peyton Manning now? Well, his nephew was front and center at the draft, Dan, in the fact that when Cleveland got a one for twenty twenty six, the Rams got a one for twenty twenty six, that these were two teams looking towards the future and the future draft, thinking that Arch Manning could be in it. What's your opinion of of of Arch Manning's Texas tenure and whether it could be won and done as a full time starter and go into next year's draft as you and I are sitting here in the first week of May?

It could definitely go one and done. I have no idea how good he is, but he can run. He's very athletic.

And as you know, he says he got it from his mom. His dad was a wide receiver, though. Cooper was a wide receiver. So Arch Manning can run. And I just I just wonder, he does not play like the the hopefully throws and reads and is as good as his uncles. But he has a different skill set than they do. So it's going to be really interesting to be surrounded by incredible talent at Texas this season.

They're they're they're loaded. And look, if he he leads them to deep in the playoffs or wins the national championship, like a lot of people have them preseason number one. Yeah, Sherry could be one and done. Absolutely.

All right. And then just your two cents on one more draft conversation, Dan and Travis Hunter, and whether he can play and the pro level the same way that he did in Colorado to win the Heisman Trophy and be the unicorn there. Any thoughts on the way Dion and his staff handled Travis Hunter, meeting room time, either side of the ball that you think is potentially translatable to the next level? Anything that you observations of Travis Hunter's time in Colorado can give us a little bit of a breadcrumb as to what Jacksonville can pull off here?

You think I would not I would not recommend playing anybody 100 snaps a game in the NFL. I just, you know, Travis got hurt a bunch, dinged up a bunch. And that's at the college level. This kid's incredible, incredible player, incredible person that you meet, you know, really interesting guy, number one recruit in America chooses to go to Jackson State.

Fascinating. And then just sticks with Dion. Obviously it pans out, wins the Heisman. He could do anything on the field. It's how long can you do it at the NFL level? How many you're just going to get hit. So I don't know whether you play him partially at both sides or you go one way or the other.

I don't know which one is better. Again, I'm not a talent evaluator, but Travis Hunter is awesome. One of the things I liked about Travis Hunter is he would hit you. They didn't throw a ton at him. He could make interceptions. He could break up passes, but there was one game he caused a goal line fumble.

He was about business. He would get in there and hit you as a cornerback. And if there was ever a player that you might say, Hey, I understand why you're not going to be the most physical corner. I'm not saying he's the most physical, but he was willing to hit guys. You'd say this is the guy who's playing 120 snaps, but he would get, he would put it, he'd get his head in there, his helmet in there and hit somebody. And so I, there's just a ton of respect for how that guy played football and how he carried himself throughout his college career.

Me too. He's legit. He's legit. Well, 100%. And again, it's the brain inside the helmet, Dan, to pull off what he did in college. You got to have that brain. That's why I'm thinking at the pro level, he, he, you know, obviously it's a different game. I understand it's faster, but the meeting room time, I think he can handle it. I really do 100%, you know?

And, and in terms of being physical at the goal line, that might be the one thing he didn't pick up from Dion. You said it. I don't need prime on me. I can say, I could say Dan, thanks for the time, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. You guys pin senior writer, Dan Wessel here on the rich eyes and show high prime in the NFL. There is no margin for error.

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I didn't know that we did. Oh, stop. Unhappy in order to be happy. You don't think so? I think that that's everybody's reaction to the jealousy of wanting to live through what we've lived through in the last 15 years because people always say stuff and they say stuff like, don't you get sick of winning? You're sick of it, right? Isn't it like boring? Everything must be like boring because that's all they have.

They all they have. No, it's awesome. I hope it continues and I've enjoyed every second of it and when it's over, you know, it's, it's going to be over. Well, I mean, this guy over there, Brockman with his red Sox cap over there, do you have the David Price sound that when he was bitching about David Price after the Yankees beat him up in, what was that? Game two play it, go for it for Bill Burr. I want him to quit. I want him to retire on the spot. He's not going to, I didn't go that's what I want.

He was terrible. Part of you. So furious at David Price, but you were, you were kind of feeling good though. Like you were getting it off your chest. Like you could see what I'm saying. That's what, what's with, is there something about another sports fan that, that sees that guy? I don't know.

Just like I'm maybe I'm just a much more sunny disposition type guy. Were you screaming about him? This is about how great he is. Oh, now I see where this is going. I was confused. You know, rich, I, I, okay. You spoon fed it to me.

I want to tell you so rich out of all of sports shows. I go on, I think you are the nicest, pleasant, respectful to other fan base. No, I just think it goes back to like the tea party. You know, it goes all the way back to like, like you don't feel represented. You feel like you're taxed. You feel like a tax sports fan. Do you feel the job? You haven't been represented in the sports universe. It's always great when I have another teammate come in to studio.

Cause I'm teamed up against two on one with the New York. Don't you hate anytime like there's a big Boston game, what they show, they always show like lighthouses, lobster fishermen and Paul Revere. Like, Oh yeah, that's Massachusetts. I didn't see, I never saw any of that growing up. I didn't have any lobster fishermen friends. I never went to a lighthouse and I never went to the freedom trail. I never did it. I, I, I've seen the line painted on the sidewalk. You know, who goes to a tourist attraction in your own city? Exactly. You only do it when relatives come to town. Do you want to go to the USS constitution?

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Where do you want to go next? You want to go to Cheers just to let you know, it doesn't look like that when you go inside. So just take a picture outside.

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We've got to reel that up and put it on Instagram. He's wrong about clam chowder. It's delicious.

That is one of my favorite exchanges. When he was here last time, what do you call him? He called me out on something.

What did he call me out on? It was the NFL. Oh yeah. Well, Bill was like dancing around the game being rigged for the Chiefs. Yeah. Oh, he had serious Chiefs fatigue, right?

He wasn't alone dancing around it. Well, then the Eagles came in and blew that theory to smithereens. Smithereens. What about the 18 other games? It was 34 to nothing in the Super Bowl. It's crazy, by the way.

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And that again involves Laramie Tunsil having a pineapple express gas mask on and getting hosed by somebody who put a bunch of DMs out there. But that lasted one day. Honestly, we had the page turned in that Chicago draft the next day because that was just a night one situation and Chidor Sanders draft lasted three days.

Unreal. And left him in a spot for a team that had six shots at drafting him. It didn't. Had a fifth round pick at taking him.

Didn't. Didn't use their last pick to move up in the fifth round to end their draft by taking him. And one of the shots that they had to take him, they drafted Dylan Gabriel instead. So I mean, you're hearing like, Hey, the Browns were trying to move up to the fourth round to take him.

Oh really? Because you had a fifth round pick you didn't use on him. So you clearly couldn't have moved up into the fourth.

The value was so great. You didn't take him the first shot. You had to take him in the round. You actually took him. Nuts.

It's weird. But as you know, that's just a, hopefully for Chidor and the Browns, a footnote. Unless Dylan Gabriel's the guy. Unless Kenny Pickett is the guy.

Because Joe Flacco, as we all know, is not the guy for the Browns long-term because he's long in the tooth. But now that their numbers have been assigned, it's officially a competition. That's the first step.

You're drafted. Then you, you choose your number. And Chidor has chosen Tom Brady's number. Oh, look at that. Or he was assigned that number.

I don't know. Why wouldn't he take two? Because two has already been assigned. And the last thing you're going to do when you show up to a spot like this is say, I want a certain number. And that number's already taken.

In the wide receiver room, I might add. And Chidor's got 12. Dylan Gabriel's got five. Pickett has eight, I believe. And Joe's keeping 15. He's getting it back.

And it's amazing. The guy who isn't the answer long-term is 100% the guy that's going to be on the roster out of these four. Hey folks, Flacco's making this team unless he is completely falling apart at the seams. Because he's a guy that Kevin Stefanski can look at and say, you don't need the reps. I'm sure they've already seen him throw. You don't need the reps. We'll give you some reps. Because I mean, obviously, you know, you can't just come off the couch and wait a minute.

Okay, you can. That was two years ago, though. Is he going to start a preseason game, you think? No, I wouldn't start him a preseason game.

No. When he got to start, I mean, you've seen what he can do. You know what he's going to do unless he's just completely lost it.

He's 40. We don't know if he can move. It's true. But he's not going to start the season, one would think, unless somebody like Pickett or a rookie completely doesn't win it, then he will start the season and you'll see it. Then you'll move on. But if you've got two rookies around there, you want somebody like Flacco to have them see what's up.

And if he's so willing to impart wisdom, then so be it. But the competition has begun because the first step has taken place and that's choose your number or have it assigned. You know? Yeah, DeAndre Carter is wearing number two. There you go.

And could you imagine Chador's like, hey, I've got all this NIL money, DeAndre. Let me get two. I got to have two. I got to have my number for this competition. What a misstep that would be.

Do you know what an absolute media feeding frenzy would be? Just take a look at what's going on with Abdul Carter and his number that he asked L.T. apparently for 56. Not going well. L.T. basically told him, do you know who I am? Google me.

You're not just the videos. OK, pound sand with 56. And then 11 is a famous number in Penn State lore. Micah Parsons wears it for the for the Giants. Phil Simms has that number for retired for the Giants. And apparently Phil was like, you know what? I'll give it to you.

You know, if you earn it, you know, you got to play hard and then you can have my 11. And his family apparently said, no, this is a legacy that we're thrilled for you. And we're happy to have our children and our children's children say that's that's grandpa. That's great grandpa. Pretty generous by Phil, though.

But Phil apparently put it up for a vote and it got vetoed by the Sims family. And in New York, everyone's like, OK, kid, you're great. We're excited to have you. But what are you doing? Like, choose your number. Make your own. Yeah.

Legacy. So you imagine if Chidor Sanders said, I need my two. I need my two.

And I got the money to pay for it. Probably would have been a smart business decision by DeAndre Carter to take that deal. Absolutely. But anything that Chidor does, if he just twitches or breathes out the direction of being focused on something other than winning this job and winning a roster spot and being as humble as it possibly can be for anybody in the history of humility or humbleness, which is my nickname from Dionne, which is the humble host.

It would be a absolute feeding frenzy. Just looking at the Giants trying to see what's available for is available seven sevens. Where in Cleveland?

You're talking about Giants for the John? I don't know. Abdul. Who knows? He can wear for one day and seven another day because that equals eleven. His number he wanted. I don't know.

It's just it's just it's it's crazy, man. Ten is Eli. That's obviously not. Yeah. Eleven. But twelve is available.

I don't know. But just go take your own. Take the number and just build your own legacy. Yeah.

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