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Welcome to a Rich Eisen List Show. I am Tom Pelissero, pleased to be in studio once again with the fellas. TJ Jefferson is here. Yo, what up though? How we doing buddy?

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It'd be two in a row. I'm here, trust us. Feller's here and is that Fuzzy Zeller over there in the corner?

Fuzzy Brockman Zeller. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Rich Eisen Show cabin. Chris Brockman here wearing my Augusta green.

I'm back. Let's go. Masters has started. Aaron Ry is four under. Let's rock and roll, people.

Scotty Sheffler made like a 40-footer for birdie on three. I'm ready to rock masters all day. I'm not going to pay attention to you, Tom. So sorry, just like if you need something, just kind of like throw something at me and I'll check back in. But it is all masters all the time. I thought that we made the agreement that you would deliver only masters updates in the Nance voice. Oh, sorry. Yeah, that's right. So anytime you talk today, you must begin with hello, friends.

Hello, friends. Aaron Ry is at Amen Corner. He's at four under through 10. Steven Yeager is also four under. Your co-leaders through nine. Joaquin Niemann, who Phil Mickelson said is the best player in the world right now. He's two under through seven.

Your defending champion, Scotty Sheffler, also two under along with Terrell Haddon. That's your update. I got a couple of questions about the sweater, Brockman, before we move on to less important topics.

Wait on me, Tom. Was it directly from eBay? Where did that come from? Yeah, well, this is an official masters sweater purchased, I got to assume, by some fine gentleman at the Masters Pro Shop purchased by me off of eBay several weeks ago, knowing that this was coming up. Stay tuned for my outfit tomorrow if you thought this was great. So, yeah, no, this is legit.

This is the real deal. I actually had gotten one of those sweater vests with the sleeveless vest, but it was too small, so I gave it to someone else and then went with a long sleeve sweater size up. So we're good to go. Yeah, you decided to go with the same button-up shirt underneath.

That was wildly specific. I would like to see a white polo or something. Oh, a white polo. That might be just a little bit, it might blend better. You want the green to pop a little more.

No, I do. Is that a long sleeve or short sleeve shirt underneath, Brockman? It's a short sleeve polo shirt. Yeah.

See, I was going to say, if it's me, I probably actually would go with the long sleeve. Oh, interesting. Because if you are buying a used sweater, used masters sweater, I feel like something, the type of person who would buy that sweater in the first place, something must have gone drastically wrong. For them to need to sell their sweater on eBay. Interesting, I see what you mean there. Right, that's not a big space in the Venn diagram there. People who buy masters sweaters and people who sell things on eBay.

It's basically just a few people who have been convicted of white collar crimes. Interesting. I think that's it.

So here's the deal. Rich has a closet in the back, a lot of very expensive long sleeve dress shirts. I think maybe a wardrobe change. Try to go with the white underneath?

I think just go no shirt at all underneath. Oh, that's dangerous. Just let that, what's that made out of there? Is that mohair? It's wool? It's definitely 100% wool. Not a poly blend? That would drive you crazy.

Not a blend. I mean, they do things right down in Augusta, Georgia. But yeah, what I'm saying is I could just go grab one of Rich's very expensive white dress shirts in the back to put underneath.

You know what I mean? Would you return the shirt or is that just a straight steal from this closet of Rich? Well, I imagine he would notice it missing, TJ, right?

Probably not. There's a lot of shirts in there. Oh, you don't even think he would notice? Are you saying that he's itemizing his own dress shirts when he's here? No, I don't think he even buys them. I think that Susie buys them, so she might notice.

She might even be listening. I think I'm going to go do that. So in the break, I'm going to go put on one of Rich's really expensive white dress shirts to wear underneath this. You know what the strangest thing I think I've ever seen gets stolen.

This is just about a week or so ago. My education with the family, Richard and Rich's white shirt. That's about the stranger.

Okay. So is it your kids? It's no, it was on, was on spring break, stayed down in Palm beach after the, after the league meetings, staying at a, at a resort on the water and a little above the La Quinta.

Again, things have gone wrong. If you're staying at the La Quinta stop it. But so I'm in the, I'm in the hotel gym, me and one other guy you know, just kind of taking up, taking up our space here. Another guy walks in and you know, the people walk into the hotel gym and they clearly have no intention of working out. They're just there to do the walk in like, I think I'll come back later and lift some of those and then to turn around and go out.

They're there to fill a water bottle, you know, they're on a tour of some kind. So guy, guy walks in with a backpack. I figure, all right, he's gonna fill up his water bottle, go to the beach and I'm, I'm, I'm lifting. So I'm like half paying attention. And then I look over and he's zipping up his backpack and he walks out and I see two of the dumbbells are missing. And so I'm like, my first reaction was, well, I got to type this down because I got to bring this up when I'm doing the show. But secondly, I'm like, before I can even say anything, the other guy in the gym goes, Hey, Hey, he steal those dumbbells.

And he did the 15th. Like I can imagine a five pound dumbbell. You're going to do like some Pilates poolside or something around the beach. What are you doing with two 15 pound dumbbells? That's a strong backpack. 30 pounds of dumbbell in your backpack is a substantial amount. I was in the gym for another hour. They did not come back.

I did not see those dumbbells again. The rest of the stay. That is incredible. So your plan, it's like the Seinfeld episode. Like, did he steal the raisins from the audition?

It's the same thing. You set this whole thing up. You went through the process just to steal those dumbbells.

You know, it's funny. I remember a story. I think it was during the bubble for the NBA. And I want to say it might've been Patrick Beverly, but it might not have been essentially an NBA player was saying, yeah, they would go to the gym and just take two twenties and just have them in the room so they could just work out, do some light stuff whenever they wanted in the room and not. And then I'm assuming he returned them after, but I definitely heard stories.

Yeah. I got 15 next to the bed for that exact reason. I'm saying if you're in the hotel, you'll want to do 15 pound curls at night. Just get a nice little pump right there. Let me just bang out some lateral raises before I go to bed.

Thousand and two. You're not in a big gym with like five of everything. There's one set of everything in the gym.

You're lucky. There's one mat. There's one foot roller. You're lucky there's a mat. There may be an inflatable ball. Like if you have an inflatable ball, that's a really nice gym, hotel gym. There's you have no idea.

There's no standards for hotel gyms whatsoever. I walk in and it's a little dice roll. You have no idea what you're getting all over the place. So I, I bring my own stuff for the gym or a little stretch out strap or a couple of lacrosse balls to, you know, work out the fascia. Absolutely should have brought your own 15.

Can I handle it? I would have someone else taking them, uh, speaking of TJ max and get some 15. That is definitely the place. Travel 15.

It's the one, the one section it's filled with sand and it's just sitting there. There's no telling how, how TJ max acquired it. It's got like four different discount tags on it. Like it used to be 14 99, then 12 99.

It doesn't quite adjust. That's that's what you, that's what you get. Now you know how to get them. That's what you get. Uh, speaking of stealing, are we now, are we in the territory of the Luca trade surpassing, at least in terms of short-term impact, the worst, the worst single season move. I liked that Mike Breen last night tried to dance around it. If you know, you can't, you can't judge trades for years down the road.

You, you need to be cautious on that. I mean, Mike brain and he goes, but for this year, it has been a disaster for the Mavericks, which is about as hard of a hammer as Breen is going to bust out. It was the closest comp in my head, watching that play out last night from the, the, the tearful reaction to Lucas C and his, his tribute video to the chance of fire Nico, as he's absolutely dominated and score in 45 points.

The closest thing I think of is, okay, you can make the argument. This is probably similar to how giants fans felt about Saquon going to the division rival running wild, winning the MVP and winning the super bowl. The thing is the giants didn't train Saquon to the Eagles.

They made a calculated bet that they were going to be able to use those resources elsewhere. And that a running back who just had not been that effective. It had not been healthy was not going to have the greatest season by a running back in NFL history. But you didn't understand that Joe Shane called up Howie Roseman at the deadline was like, eh, what do you think about Saquon? Can I have one of your broken down older players who you don't want anymore? Can I, can I have your, your backup edge rusher right now?

And we'll take that for Saquon. It's this was a, I just, I can't get over watching Mark Cuban's reaction. If Mark Cuban is still in control contractually, which he claimed he was going to be remember when he sold the majority interest and supposedly Murray had a, he had a quote at one point saying like the NBA wouldn't let them put that in the contract. Mark Cuban is sitting there last night watching the cutaways to him stone faced after Lucas draining threes.

Somebody on Tik TOK had a video, the crowd's chanting fire Nico, and he's just got his head in his hands. Just can't, can't believe it. Did anybody, you guys talk I'm on NFL network.

Okay. We were, I have a very narrow focus. Had the name Nico Harrison ever come up? I know he had put together a roster around Luca that had gone to the, gone to the NBA finals, but had that name ever come up prior to this night didn't stick into our minds. Never heard of that one. Didn't know who he was. I had to look after hearing fire Nico last night and say, I need to find out who Nico is. Wait a minute.

He's responsible. Are you saying just now? Like we all start, his name really came into prevalence of when the trade happened.

That's when I was slightly focused on NFL free agency at the time. Okay. No, no.

Trust me. What's the trade happened? His name?

It was everywhere. Yeah. His, his bio, by the way, because again, I Googled this morning just to know, I, and I'm not, I'm not questioning the man's qualifications.

Okay. Again, he made the, the Kyrie trade. He put together a roster that was very good. I understand if you're an owner, who's probably pretty new to this, you trust the guy who is shown, Hey, he's got good instincts. He knows how to build a championship caliber roster. We'll trust him. Even if it's on trading away the most popular player we've had since Derek Novitskiy and the guy who is one of the best players in the NBA and is still only 26 years old. We'll trust him even on that. I would ask a few questions, but we'll trust him even on that. So I'm not questioning his qualifications. I am merely saying the body Wikipedia page of the Mavericks general manager. First of all, his playing career. These are maybe the best three team names I've ever heard that he played in various sub NBA leagues in his pro career.

He played for the Louvin bears in Belgium. Oh, the black Hills posse. That's a, that's a name. I like that.

And the Hitachi Hansha rising sun. Those are good. Those are good team names.

I bet you every one of those jerseys is banging too. Yeah. The black Hills posse. Right.

It's sounds really, it came out to cool modee. Like I'm telling you, I think we're thinking like posse of, you know, people who like stole gold in the 1800s. That's that's got to be, we got to go find that guy. Is that like a South Dakota minor league?

Like what black Hills black Hills posse was a professional basketball team based in rapid city in the international basketball association. There's Nico. He's a real guy. Wow. So he worked for 21 years at Nike.

Right. This is the informative line from that section of his Wikipedia page during his work at Nike, he botched a 2013 presentation to Stephen Curry, where according to Harrison, he may have called him Seth. And the presentation used was made for Kevin Durant. This along with not offering Curry a signature shoe caused the superstar to switch from Nike and sign with Under Armour. Then there's just this gap where all of a sudden he's the GM of the Mavericks straight from there. And I get it. You're thinking, okay, I know the NBA is just different and you're, it's a player driven league. It is very much about, you know, relationships. Rob Blake is the guy who made the trade on the other end who had been an agent and now runs the Lakers and exactly it's the better end of his Kobe's agent forever part of the fab five, but to jump directly to that.

And then there's this, which I just am entertained. The Wikipedia has six citations for this together with longtime friend, Rob blink, a Harrison engineered the shocking February, 2025 trade of Maverick superstar. Luca Donches to the Los Angeles Lakers considered by many as the worst trade in the history of the NBA, six separate citations because Wikipedia, you never want the citation needed six different citations to say, yes, this is regarded as the worst ever. Everyone thinks this was terrible, but what's a similar pain level Brockman to pain, a similar pain, not pain, Stewart, who bought that, oh, eight pains, bought that from his estate on eBay, the pain level of Luca coming in, in that moment, this is not a twilight of the career thing. This is not Brett Favre coming back and playing the Packers when he's 39.

What is the equivalent type of a pain in sports? You know, in the movie Talladega nights, you have seen that Ricky Bobby, right? Remember when all of a sudden, um, who's the guy with the mustache that I'm thinking about? Not, not will Ferrell, but the other one, Johnson. So he, his character just takes over his life and his house and is with his wife. And all of a sudden as a father to his kids and that wedding and, and will Ferrell walked in and was just like, what are you doing?

This is my house. Sorry, man. Well, you know what I mean?

That was last week. Like, I think it's kind of like that. Will Ferrell's pain of like, you just took over my life in like three days. That was, that, that was real pain on a Ricky Bobby's face and behind those eyes. And I feel like that's the pain that, that mass fans, they will never get over this. I mean, I was thinking this yesterday.

I actually hope they win the lottery and get Cooper flag and then immediately fire Nico Harrison. That's it. That's fire.

That seems like, Hey, Hey, Hey, come here for a second. No, I know how you fire him fired. But if you signed off on trading away the superstar player, this is an ownership level decision.

Cause he's not trading your sixth man. Yeah. He didn't do that on his own. He had to get permission from it seemed like he did it on his own. No, you've heard the stories about the, you know, about the casino and then the owner being upset about not being able to what she wanted to do. So, you know, there's always these, these internal stories of why nobody knew this was happening, but he can't do it without owner permission, bro.

You know, that like they have to sign up. He goes to the owner and he gets the rubber stamp. I mean the duration again, Mark Cuban does not let this happen. I don't know that over his dead body. Mark Cuban does not let it happen.

Who is Mark Cuban ever let leave the Mavericks in their prime Steve Nash. That was a little later in his career though. No, it wasn't. How old was he at that point? It was pre MVP. So not even that late.

That's the last one. And that's 12 years ago, 15 years ago. Well, it's a while early 2000s. Yeah. Was not an active, was not an active, uh, trade. This was, I just, I I'm just flabbergasted by the entire mechanics of it. And I understand it's never going to be popular, right? Teams make moves all the time.

You have to do the hard thing. You can't keep players past their prime, which is definitely not the case with Luca. You Steve Nash was a free agent. It wasn't a trade. It was a free agent. Yeah.

He went to Phoenix is free, but I'm saying it wasn't what year it was still early at 2004. Okay. So I'm trapped in a time warp. That was 21 years ago.

Yeah. In my, in my mind, Steve Nash is still playing a cow, but it wasn't Santa Clara Santa Clara. It wasn't a, it wasn't a, it wasn't a trade.

That's what, that's kind of your point, right? A trade of that player of a player that caliber is, it just does not happen right in sports. The NBA, there's always crazy stuff, but this one surpassed that level. We got an NFL draft. That's two weeks away by the way, guys, uh, we got a very, very, uh, special guest coming up right after this one man trains cam ward and should do or Sanders. That man is Daryl Colbert Jr.

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Our members are the mission, insured by NCUA. Who was your coach, Joel McHale, when you were at Washington? Coach Don James.

So the legendary Don James. How would he have handled that? Well, he wouldn't really make eye contact with me because I was a lock-on and we were cattle and we were the chaff. We were cannon fodder.

But if you did something good, then he'd be like, hey, that was good. He stood up in a booth because he tried to watch the whole practice. So as everyone knows, I was the worst player in Washington history. We're looking at a shot of you standing in front of the Rose Bowl right now. See, the problem is that I forgot my pads. So they were like, go back out to the bus and get them.

And then they got that photo of me. Yeah, you're in your uniform, minus pads and what looks like practice shorts. That was not game day itself then, right? No, there would have been a lot more people around.

So yeah, that's as close as I got to playing. I was in the stadium, but no, I wasn't. You never even got in the game? Not even like a Rudy moment for you at any point? No, Rudy hadn't come out yet.

So they didn't know about that moment. And as soon as that movie came out, I was like, oh, missed my shot. No, I walked on and I was awful. And then they redshirted me my second year. And then I quit because that's what you do to make it in Hollywood. You quit your redshirt. I knew that I needed, I was no, it was no. Now you were a tight end, right?

Yes. The two tight ends in front of me and the other eight in front of me. But the two were, it was Mark Bruner and Ernie Conwell who are, they look like Greek gods.

And Ernie was cleaning and jerking 365 when he was a 19 year old. So he could bench 450 as a freshman. And I ran screaming and crying a lot on the field. And that's why no one could tackle me because I felt bad. I was like, don't hurt me.

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Call click Grainger.com or just stop by. Two weeks away from the NFL draft kicking off in Green Bay, Wisconsin. We got a pretty good idea who's going to go number one. We have a decent idea who's going to be the second quarterback off the board too. And in an interesting twist for the first time I can remember the same man trains both those quarterbacks and he's going to join us right now.

Daryl Colbert Jr. Who somehow has time to come on the show, which I do appreciate, man. You've been through a whirlwind here. You're running showcases, you're running pro days. What, what has this experience been like for you? Man, it's been a blessing, man. I appreciate you having me on, but man, it's been a blessing. It's been fun, you know, with these guys, you know, taking them through this process and, you know, them trusting me with this.

This is huge. You know, this is my first pro day as well. Cam's was my first one. Chidor was, you know, I call it 1A1B, you know, got them 10 days apart. So it was good, man.

It was fun. You know, with those guys, trust me, we've been at it for a while with Chidor for about, you know, six years and Cam for about four and a half years. So for them to trust me and give me this opportunity to work with them, going into pro day, you know, getting them ready for the biggest, biggest throwing session of their lives to this point, you know, it's been good.

All right. So let's start off by talking about Cam, who at this point, Titans continue to say they're still finalized and all those things. You can't announce the number one pick early, but I would be very, very surprised if he's not the number one pick to Tennessee. If indeed that is the case, what do you think the Titans are getting knowing Cam as well as you do?

And what do you think about the fit there in Tennessee? I think it's a good fit, a special player. Man, he's been able to, you know, go and beat him at three different stops. Of course, college is completely different from the NFL, but, you know, he's been able to go and beat him and make plays and make teams better, you know, getting the opportunity to go to UIW and turning that program around, especially, you know, what he did that first year in the COVID year, then going to Wazoo and breaking all those records and putting all those numbers and then going back to the U and bringing them back to relevance.

So, you know, just being able to do that. And as you can see, you know, doing it with different guys, it didn't matter, you know, if he had a whole bunch of five stars around him or zero stars, like he was, he was still making everybody better. So he's a guy who's going to come in and make the team better and a guy who wins football games, a special talent, you know, being able to, he's the modern day quarterback, all of the, you know, different arm angles and all the stuff that he can do is just, it makes him special. So Tennessee, if they end up going with Cam, they're going to get a special guy.

So four and a half years ago, you start working with Cam. What was he like then? What were your first impressions and what's allowed him to grow from being a guy who even if he came out a year ago would have been maybe a mid-round pick to now, you know, quite possibly be a number one?

Man, I think this kind of answers both questions. If you ask him literally to this day, if he was, if he would have went with his first mind and came out last year, he felt he was a first round draft. He feels that he still feels that to this day.

We had a conversation the other day and he was like, shoot, I would at least went 10, you know, so that's just who he is. He has the confidence in himself. And that's what I saw the first day that, you know, we were out here. I'm at the facility right now. We were out here training. That's the first thing I saw from him, just the confidence and the belief that he has in itself. Man, when we first worked out with each other, you know, it was kind of seeing all the different arm angles that he throws from, you know, ball dropping a little low at the time.

It's just a lot of different things. And I went into it when we got done. I was like, man, you know, all right, cool.

Probably gonna have to change some of this stuff. But I was like, man, let me go watch this film again. And then I went to go watch this film and I was like, okay, this is who make, this is what makes him who he is, you know, being able to throw from all these arm slots, all the off platform. That's what made him very special at the time when he was at UIW.

So I'm like, man, we're not going to change any of this stuff. We're going to, you know, find ways to make it better and hone in on it and perfect it and go from there. And I think that's what really helped us create our bond. Cause I feel like a lot of guys, you know, that he might've worked with, you know, wanted to, you know, him to be this pro style guy and do it the way that everybody else has done it.

But man, it was big for, for him, for me to just come out and, you know, see what he wanted to do and perfect that stuff and not change who he was and not change what made him special. As you're describing the skill set. And as you said, Daryl, this is a, you know, this is the modern day quarterback. I'm like trying in my mind's eye to envision who is the closest comp in the NFL. When you talk about switching all the arm angles, body type a little bit too, like Mahomes is the number one, even though it's blasphemy to compare anybody to Mahomes, like who's the comp for Cam Ward in your mind? Man, he went into, when he went into Miami last year, I did an interview with one of the Miami people, I think on three and told him, he asked me about a comparison. I was like, I'm not saying that this kid is Patrick Mahomes, but the play style is Patrick Mahomes. How they, like you said, how they look, the build, but just all the different arm angles, all the off platform stuff that they, that Pat does, Cam does, you know, the baseball, baseball background that Cam has, Patrick Mahomes has, you know, so all the different things that he watches, Patrick Mahomes, you know, so he sees that, okay. And that's what I think gave him, you know, a lot of confidence as well, seeing Pat go into the NFL and not change who he was and consistently, you know, throw it all the different arm angles, do all the different things that he did that's making him successful.

And he like, okay, shoot, I do the same stuff, you know, so that's my comparison. Of course, you know, Keller Williams does a lot of that stuff as well, but my comparison would be Patrick Mahomes. And I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes, but his play style is very close, very close. Well, I remember too, you know, way back when Mahomes came out, which was 2017, and I was talking to Davis Webb, who had known and played in the same system at Texas Tech.

And he was like, you know, the one kid in your neighborhood who can just do it, you go out on the playground, you go in the backyard, you just do it, that's Pat. And I had a coach tell me something very similar about Cam, which is you mentioned the baseball background. He played multiple different sports. When you get him, Chidoor and yourself as a former college quarterback too, are there competitive moments between that group, even non-football stuff that you guys do? Man, everything, literally everything, everything is competitive. It's like, if it's weight room stuff, if it's conditioning, if it's of course the throwing stuff, if it's, we got a basketball hoop out here, of course, you know, he tells everybody if he wasn't playing basketball, if he wasn't playing football, he'd be going pro in basketball. That's how he feels.

But he does come from a basketball family, so I can understand that. But literally everything is competitive. If it's, you know, if it's playing a video game, Madden, whatever it is, like everything is competitive. Like that's just the nature. If it's, you know, we leave it here and headed like the other day, leaving here and headed to the, to the PT players, you know, all right, I'm gonna get there.

They say I'm gonna get there in 15 minutes, I'll be there in 14 minutes. You know, like just little things, everything is competitive. That's just who he is. And that's just his mindset. That's just the type of guy he is.

Like literally anything you can think of. If it's fishing, if it's whatever it is, he's a competitive guy. That's just who he is.

Tell me about Chidor. You've known him a little bit longer. You said six years. So we're talking, you get him in high school. You obviously, you know, you know who his dad is, you know, the lineage and all that stuff. What do you remember about the very first time you met Chidor Sanders? So very first time I met him when he was actually in middle school and I was at SMU. So his oldest brother who does all the video stuff, Deon Jr., me and him went to SMU together.

He was, he's like two years older than me. So when I came in, me and him created a good relationship together. And so Chidor, even back then, Chidor used to always want to just come work out. So he used to come work out, you know, of course his brother played receiver at the time, so he would come to SMU and throw with him. And so when I got there and me and him created a relationship, he would come out and come throw with me when I was out there throwing and come work out with me. And then when I got back to, his mom lived in Houston.

So on different, you know, Christmas break, summer breaks, you know, I'm from Houston, so I would come back home to Houston and he would call me and be like, hey man, come pick me up from my mom's house. I want to come work out with you. So we had created a bond from there. And then once I got done playing ball and got into training, I told him, he was like, shoot, I'm training with you. You know, I want to train with you.

We had a great relationship. You know, of course the stuff that we were doing, it was when I was working out with him, it was a lot of the same stuff we were going to be doing, a lot of the same stuff we're going to be doing in training. So man, he was comfortable with it. So we kind of got, got from there.

He drove down to Houston the first, one of the first times before the season and we started working and then we just built it up, built it up from there. You've seen and read, I'm sure all the stuff about the questions in terms of Shidoor and how he's going to fit. He is, listen, he is hyperconfident.

There is no doubt about it. You talk to him for two minutes. You can see that for some people, that borders into cockiness. They wonder how's that going to play if you're a 22 year old kid walking into a locker room full of 30 year old men who have been doing this for a long time. For people who have those questions about how Shidoor is going to fit into an NFL culture, what would you tell them? Man, I think, I think for a quarterback, you want a guy like that. You want a guy who's sure in what he can do. You want a guy who's confident in himself. You want a guy who's never second guessing himself. If he's going out there to play and you know that, okay, cool.

He's not worried, so we're not worried. That's who Shidoor is. Literally, Shidoor has been in, he's played four years of football with six different offensive coordinators and been successful.

Has the highest completion percentage in NCAA history. Just who he is, he understands the system. He's not a guy who, I feel like he's a guy who can fit in any system, whatever type of system that a team is running. I think the biggest thing he gives, just his confidence in himself sets everything apart.

It's not any game that he's played that he doesn't feel like he's out of because he understands the game. He's seen so much football, so he understands it and he's comfortable back there, man. I think just the type of guy he is and that confidence, yeah, it can offend some people, but it's who he is and that's what makes him special. I think a lot of guys, you see it on social media and all that stuff, but I think the guys in the locker room, he's been in two different locker rooms, all the changes that they've made and they haven't had any problems in the locker room yet. Now, of course, that's college and not the NFL, but I think he's going to carry over to the NFL as well. He'll be able to relate to each guy in the locker room from all different walks of life, but that's just who he is. He's a confident guy and when he gets out there, he's going to be very confident.

I feel like if their quarterback's confident, especially coming in as a rookie, then everybody else around him will be confident. Knowing that he's Deion's son, if you'd never seen him play, I would think most people would assume he's like his dad, right? He's flashing, he's running all over the place.

He's played more like Cam, frankly, but Sidor, I mean, he's at his core. He's a pocket passer. He's accurate within the pocket. He doesn't have elite athletic ability, let's call it that.

He's not going to be making a ton of things happen with his legs. Who is the comp in your mind and how does he end up playing stylistically in the NFL? Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow is a great fit. I had one of the guys from Colorado actually brought that up last year when I was trying to figure out who kind of fit, who kind of fit, who Sidor was. I think that was a great fit, just the way Joe Burrow is always confident, always calm.

Sidor is always this. He's one of the guys who's literally always that. He never gets too high, never gets too low. Joe does a great job of being accurate and understanding the system.

What I think the comparison really works is, what was that? The year that Joe and them went to the Super Bowl, he was sacked a lot. He was the most quarterback in the NFL and was still productive. That's who Sidor was last year.

Being sacked over 50 something times and still being productive, still at the top of all the quarterback statistics and different things like that. How accurate Joe is, same thing with Sidor. Very sneaky athletic, same thing with Sidor.

I think that's a great fit for him. Those sacks can add up though too. Burrow has gotten beat up and he tore his ACL at one point. For Sidor, are there things in your mind that he still needs to improve? Whether it's the processing ability, whether it is just learning coverages. What are some things, not that it's all on him taking sacks, but what are some things that he still can get better at as he moves forward? I think from the learning coverage standpoint, he's one of the guys who understands coverages at a great level.

I think that just goes from who his dad is. He's been learning coverages for a long time. He's been around some guys who have taught him a lot. He understands the game from a whole different lens that a lot of people don't get to understand it from. A lot of things he needs to work on, of course, it gets to a point where you've been sacked so many times and different things like that. You want to be able to get the ball out a little quicker and different things like that. There's a lot of things that he understands that going into the next level, going into the NFL, that he'll have to change, that he'll have to get better at. He's working on that. Those are things that, of course, working on the pro day stuff, but those are things that he wants to work on.

A lot more rhythm stuff, a lot of different things that he understands that I have to be better at the next level to be successful. Where Shidoor goes is one of the great mysteries, not to spoil my own segment that's coming up in a little bit here. It's one of the biggest questions, though, going into the draft. He's taken a bunch of visits.

I believe he's in Pittsburgh with the Steelers today. Do you have a sense, do you have a guess on where this all lands for Shidoor? Man, I don't know. It's just crazy how you go from everybody at the end of the season saying you're going to be at the latest. You're going number three and then you're dropping and nothing has changed. You haven't played any football for how does it change?

That's what's crazy about all this stuff. It's new, but he's been even killed, all this stuff. I think he just wants the opportunity and, of course, wants to go on the best fit for him. I think however it works out, it's going to be a good fit if it's the Browns at two or if it's where he's at right now in Pittsburgh, whatever it is. I think they all have good fits for him. I think it's a good opportunity for him to be successful very early.

I don't think he's worried about it as much, but it's just crazy to me how he hasn't played football in the last four months. You go from being top three to now they're talking about you might not be top three and nothing has changed. It's been interesting. You hear a lot of feedback from a lot of guys who've interviewed them and got to know them. They have a lot of good things to say about them. A lot of people went into a lot of interviews, especially around combine time, because you just see all the Instagram posts and what they put out on YouTube and you don't really know who he is. But then a lot of those guys got to sit down with him and were like, oh, shoot, this is a great kid. He's a great guy. He can articulate himself well, understands the game, can relate to everybody. He's a great guy, respect for all those different things.

So it's just kind of crazy how that happens. How's Coach Prime handling? I don't know how much you talk to him directly, but how's he handling the whole, just watching his son go into this process here. Deion famously said on draft way, if a certain team took him, they'd have to give him so much money that they'd put him on layaway. I know he's got strong fields where he'd like it to go. How was he handling this from, from outside looking at, you know, the conversation we had, you know, he's, he's comfortable with it because he knows he's prepared for these, for all of this stuff, you know, from he literally early, early on, before this even started, he said, you know, man, they're going to come out with all kinds of stuff about you.

That's going to try to get you to drop so you can drop down to certain teams. And it's been, it's been true. Like everything he said has been true. So he's prepared him for this moment. So he's not worried about it.

And like I said, she doesn't worry about it. All the, you know, the reports that come out and different things like that stuff that they're not worried about at all, because literally, you know, having a dad like him, who's been through this stuff, he understood what was coming. So he was able to give him a heads up on all this stuff. And, you know, now it's happening and it's crazy that this stuff actually happened exactly how he said it.

The last thing for you here, Darryl. All right. So you started working with these guys.

You met Chidor when he's in middle school, you've been working with camps early his college career. I know you've got other guys in the pipeline. I want you, you don't have to make predictions, but I know there's gonna be a guy or two that we're gonna be talking about down the line. Do you have, do you have somebody else we're gonna re-rack this clip in two, three, four years?

We talking about them being a hydropic? Oh yeah, man. I think I got a kid at a guy who's done a lot of training with, with these two guys, Kyron Jones. He's at Virginia Tech. He got hurt this past year.

So season didn't go as he wanted. He's a guy who's very special, has a lot of talent, has the arm strength, has the size, a lot of different things like that. And then also I got, man, I got a young guy who, you know, this is the first year where quarterbacks, oh well, not quarterbacks, but juniors were able to compete in the All-American games.

You know, that's more so just all for the seniors and different things like that. But I had a junior compete in, to compete in, I think it's the Adidas All-American game this past, this past December. And he won MVP. Kid named Keyshawn Henderson. He's five star on pretty much every site.

Just depending on which one you're looking at, top five and all, all of those. And he's committed to U of H right now. So that's a, that's a, that's a name to look out for. I think he can, he's going to be very special when he gets to college. But of course, you know, we've got a lot of guys in the pipeline, but those are two guys that, that come to mind as a young guy and a guy who's, you know, jumping into it after the season next year. Chris Brockman sitting over here, writing down Keyshawn Henderson. Do they have future odds on that Brockman for number one pick?

Can you, you already, already, I can't give gambling advice. Of course. I'm just checking. I know what you're trying to, man. I tried to tell a lot of people when I, you know, as we were working with these guys, Chidor and Cam, that man, these guys were special and this, this was going to happen that they were going to be, you know, high draft picks and people didn't believe me, you know, which I understand, you know, it's, you feel like, you know, you're a little too close to us or you just saying that cause those are your guys, man, but these guys were special. I saw that from, you know, early on working with them and the way that they go about the game and the way that they prepare themselves and, you know, just their demeanor and their confidence that they have in themselves. So those are the two guys have that.

So I could see, you know, if everything is go, how it's supposed to go to those guys could be in this situation as well. They're all awesome stuff, man. Thanks a ton. No, it's a busy time. So thanks for, for taking a few minutes for us here. Nah, for sure, Tom. Thank you, man.

I appreciate y'all. That is Darryl Colbert Jr. That is cool. Train Cam Ward and Chidor Sanders for a long time.

You're not going to get better insight. How about the Joe Burrow comp on Chidor Sanders? My eyes kind of perked up at that. I was like, Oh, well, here's where I can see it. And listen, there's a long way to go. I have Tom McShay on earlier.

I'll give a minor spoiler. He does not even have Chidor as the second quarterback off the board in his mock draft, but where I can see it is Joe Burrow is probably a little bit better athlete than people might think. Right. And he gets by with really good accuracy when he doesn't have the biggest arm. That's that Chidor Sanders. He's not as tall as Joe Burrow. He's got a long way to go to be considered one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL, but it's an interesting it's an interesting idea because that is the way that Chidor probably is going to have to play to have success. And then the Mahomes, I mean, just in the conversations I've had that that lines up perfectly, which is now again, I think Patrick Mahomes is the greatest player I've ever seen, even greater than your guy that played a long time in New England, just because of the way what he's accomplished at such a young age and the number of different ways that he can beat you. But Cam Ward, in terms of all the change in the arm angles, the baseball stuff, the fact that he's a little bit pudgy, that's another thing where Mahomes does not exactly have the greatest physique in NFL history.

He got dad bod shamed for locker room shots, right? And Cam Ward's got a little bit of that as well. Let's talk on the other side of this break a little more about Chidor and the Steelers who he's visiting today.

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A Minecraft movie only in theaters. What are your feelings now that Alex Smith has been unofficially traded away to use your phraseology here? It's, it's awkward. It's awkward.

I honestly don't know how to really accept it. I mean, through my entire career, I've, you can't say Travis Kelsey without Alex Smith. I mean, he's been my quarterback. He's been a guy that's arguably the, I owe a lot of my success to him, you know? So it's, it's going to be awkward going into a huddle, like I said, with, with anybody but Alex, but I know Pat is ready for the opportunity.

Sure. He's, he's, he's taken a lot of, a lot of mental reps and a lot of notes from Alex and how this thing should be ran. Alex ran into it to an absolute T this, this past season.

And you know, obviously everyone's excited to see what he can do. Well, how did you learn about it yesterday? The trade? Twitter. Twitter. Yeah. My girlfriend called me and told me what's going on with Alex.

And sure enough, I went on Twitter and every, everything told me that he was being traded to Washington. Now, you know, we don't usually get into the personal life here. On the show, but is this the young lady from catching Kelsey? No, this is not. So it was catching Kelsey to put that show in the archives.

It was a fun show, but it really wasn't that fun afterwards. And yeah, so it was catching Kelsey and release catch and fumble. Kelsey, but now we have a catch. You might have a touchdown. Ah, so that was a celebration dance then. There will be, if further review, the catch is under review.

We'll see where it goes. The red challenge flag still in the pocket for Travis Kelsey. And look, my homes, we had Chris Harris of the Broncos on game day morning in the playoffs. And he said when he was looking at film of my homes and he played a couple of series against him. Yeah. He says this kid's got some serious ability. The Broncos said that. Yeah.

Have you seen anything of that note? Without a doubt. I mean, what he, what he does in practice is, uh, it's fun to watch him in practice. Cause kind of, he's on the scout team, kind of just being a backyard quarterback, throwing it all every way imaginable.

You can think of sidearm underhand Chuck putting the ball anywhere on the field. So it was definitely fun watching him in that regard. And it's like I said, it's going to be exciting to see where he can go with it.

Cause it's, it's the, the expectation is definitely high. Travis Kelsey clearly in a different phase of life at that point, uh, dating many, many women on a reality show. Nowadays, the most famous woman, uh, maybe in the world looks like a different guy there too. Doesn't he? Totally.

I know. We all, we all looked different 18 after six, seven years. Minneapolis Super Bowl. It was so funny cause that whole interview, he was talking about how much he loved Alex Smith. And you can't say Travis Kelsey without Alex Smith. And it's like, Oh yeah, you had never caught a touchdown from Mahomes.

You didn't even know what this guy could be or would be. And as we know, as we know, later that year in 2018, Mahomes throws 50 touchdowns. He's MVP. They almost go to the Super Bowl.

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The green pops more with the white. Now you look like my high school chemistry teacher, honestly. Like if I couldn't see, yeah, when I can't see the master's logo, you got a little bit of Mr. Rogers, a little bit of a high school teacher, but I think it's definitely better than the shirt that plainly did not go together. It's a very comfortable shirt. I got to say, I mean, Rich buys the nice stuff. You know what I mean?

You know, Susie ain't going to skimp out on the shirt for a man. It's also a French cuff. So like, does anyone have any cuff links just lying around I could use?

What do you currently have? You're just, does it have the button that you can button it to yourself or you just, you're currently turning them over. I'm just going open. I'm just going.

You're freewheeling it over there. All hanging out. Is initials on there? Are they monogrammed?

Good check. I don't know. Will you dry clean this shirt?

I don't know. This is going right back in the closet. It actually might come home with me, to be honest.

And we'll just see if he notices. The only thing outside of like undergarments I can't wear twice is a dress shirt. Can't do it. I wear a dress shirt for one minute on TV. Then you're going to take it off, dry clean it.

Dry clean it. It just, there's something about the neck and then just the whole thing. Like, I don't know what it is, but like, it just feels, you don't wear undershirts. I don't wear undershirts.

See, that's the reason. Like at the, at the events, I get the draft when I'm doing good morning football and wearing that, wearing a, wearing a shirt and tie, and then, you know, taking it off and then putting it back on later in the day. I have to debate, bring in multiple different shirts, man. It keeps a little funk, keep a little sweat off. I don't like the look of the undershirt. You know what I mean?

You don't want to see the t-shirt. He's got it. He's wearing a jacket most of the time.

That's true. So you James Jones, who I believe now is at Fox, used to be at NFL network. One time I was doing a show with him. He took off his jacket, no sleeves on the dress shirt. Well, yeah.

Cut off sleeveless dress shirt. You've seen James Jones. He looks like you can still play football. He's built slightly differently than me. Most of us. That is incredible.

Through the, through the bicep area. Shenore Sanders, who's quarterback coach Daryl Colbert Jr. just joined us. Fantastic interview.

That'll be up on YouTube later on. He's in Pittsburgh today. And there's, there's a lot going on with the Steelers. There's continued to wait on Aaron Rogers.

Yep. Anybody hoping that he was going to make a magical appearance at McAfee's show, whatever that thing was last night, did not get their wish. Everyone else was there, but yeah, no Aaron Rogers. Steelers continue to wait on that. They continue to evaluate quarterbacks. They also have TJ Watt posting a photo of him given the peace sign. Um, I would say this for TJ Watt, a couple of things, and this is not with any firm knowledge background, but one he's in a contract here plainly due for an upgrade.

Doesn't have it yet. Two, I would fairly tell you TJ Watt probably is getting a little sick of waiting on the quarterback question as well. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you want to play here or do you not?

We want volunteers, not hostages. Cam Hayward, who then proceeded to try to walk that back several times when he said, Hey, you want to be a Pittsburgh Steelers or you don't, I don't need to make more of a pitch than that. That opinion from everything I've been told is not solely to Cam Hayward. There are other people, certainly in the organization, in the locker room who are just going like, what are we doing? We're back for off season workouts in, you know, 10 days. We're, we're, we're coming up on the draft. What, what is the plan at a time that you feel like if you're a player on that team, we can, we can win.

We can do this. We haven't gotten the quarterback right since Ben was supposed to be Kenny picket that ended up being a miss. You tried last year to go on the cheap angle, bring in Russ, bringing fields, hope one of them works out. They wanted fields back. He chose to go to the jets and it's hard to blame them after how last season played out. They were, you know, they had interest in Matthew Stafford. They still have interest in Aaron Rogers.

It's not, it's not for lack of trying. It's not either just going, well, we're just going to go with Mason Rudolph, but at some point that might be the plan. At some point if Aaron Rogers does not go, there is a scenario where it's Mason Rudolph and you draft somebody and you go in and you see what happens. They won games with Mason Rudolph. The best that offense has functioned since Ben was probably down the stretch in 2023. George Pickens loves Mason Rudolph.

Why? Cause he throws the ball down the field. He gets some opportunities to go get it. Throw deep, baby. Mason Rudolph. They stuck with him over Kenny picket over Mitch Trubisky.

He started a playoff game for him. So they want Aaron Rogers, even at 41 years old, even though he hasn't played at MVP Aaron Rogers level since 2021, they still believe Mike Tomlin has been a long time fan. They still believe we can get the most out of this guy right now. All signs from everything I was totally meeting last week, all signs continue to point toward Aaron Rogers being the Steelers quarterback, except for one, which is Aaron Rogers actually saying, picking up a phone, getting on FaceTime and saying, I'm in. And until you get that, you have no choice, but to do what the Steelers are doing, which is I believe they had Jackson Darden for a visit. They had Tyler Shuck in for a visit. They had dinner with Jalen Millrow before Alabama's pro I mean, they're doing work on all these guys. And I'll be very interested too, to get Todd McShay's opinion. Cause I got a peak at his latest mock draft. He's he's got, he's got more than more than two quarterbacks in the first. He might even have more than three quarterbacks in the first we'll talk to Todd in the final hour of this show coming up though, after this, we'll get more into the NFL draft as well.

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