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May 28, 2022 12:35 pm
Welcome fellow adventurers! The discussion on agreements, vows and bitter root continues right here on the Masculine Journey After Hours Podcast. The clips are from "Animal House," "Antz," and "Erin Brockovitch."
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This is our second pillar, and we are talking about agreements and in the vowels in the Bitterroot from those so there are things are going to go together because you're making an agreement which could be. I agree that I'm an idiot because that's what you here are some is always telling you your motormouth and that's what you agree to. I got nothing important to say those are kind of agreements, bows get to when you actually start making a bow like I'm never going to do that again. I'm always going to end up last all those kinds of things that gets even deeper and what that ends up going in is a deep Bitterroot on either a person are made it yourself are just a situation is can't live in very well have the Bitterroot is that the kudzu of the spiritual realm that that that's as great as very good that if you don't know what kudzu is, if not in one house and you don't when I know is that it takes over everything.
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It's a big tiny thing idea and farmers hate eggs. I can't kill it and think they can't kill the Bitterroot, it just keeps coming back to you and so you have a microphone in front of you. So are you going and set up the clip yeah so in this clip we have pledges making pledges and what you have is the Delta house versus the Omega house air in the movie animal house and you can hear how serious. One group takes things and how unserious the others does and kinda will compare and talk about those we come back.
I state your name, do hereby pledge allegiance to the frat to do hereby with liberty and fraternity for all I charge your duty now. I just thought I name is weasel. Now I name is mothball Kroger. Other top guys name is Pinto. My contempt with my Delta town hanging Dorfman given this a lot of thought. Now on name is flown moon renowned man's agreement on the looming decision is another yeah I know one another but you can see the difference between those two groups were you want group therapists making these pledges are getting names as its object a bunch of goofballs they don't think anything serious and they don't have the Bitterroot. They are there comedians there. Everything's fine. It's lighthearted and even this big fight between the houses. It kinda goes on throughout the movie. It's like no big deal you got blue you know just plain nuts and then you go to the other house for all serious and they think they are so important in their soul above everybody else and they just hate us all. They did with the whole thing. They just in their heart is hate and that's where you see a lot of these people that just take themselves like they think their everything right there. They're so important it's got a revolve around me.
It turns into this Bitterroot that if you don't believe what I believe in you don't do what I do. It just this condemnation that comes out of that is just is just ugly but that's where email that lightheartedness and that's where any one of things in the messenger and it we strive for is a lot of humor in levy and yes we take God seriously, but we try not to take ourselves to serious you are one another. D if we get to the next clip in this after hours was to go a little deeper and and I know I've shared on on the after hours. Many times in my story. My sister Ray but I want to kinda play out how all three of those phases really played in the my life and in the danger of agreement.
So from the moment I can remember the littlest ever being my sister always telling me to shut up. You have nothing to say motormouth all this kind of things that showed a mere many times keeping in mind she's 28 years older than me right so it wasn't like it was another kid in the here and it fermented an adult is an authority figure and you kinda love, and they must know what they're talking about and my mom and dad never ever said anything to her and said I was. Further validation that the didn't know them.
They may have said some to her privately. They didn't saving to her in front of me and so this is to give further truths in I and my eyes that that has to be true because my parents aren't stepping out for me and so there's the original agreement and then that becomes an agreement that I'm never gonna speak in front of people's I talked about earlier or if I would talk for a certain amount of time I would get have this inner clock would kinda go off and so you been talking too long. You need to wrap it up and shut up right as you can. It really does push it over the edge before listening anyway and so you have these vows of them. Never gonna speak in front of people in I have to always be very quick with my reply, he can't be anything that's really drawn out and so that's kind of these vows that I'm under in then where the Bitterroot comes in is you know you would've thought that the molestation I went through is going be the hardest agreement.
The hardest wound and all that that process in comparison to this one. It was nothing. A guy kinda fix that one pretty quickly for me. Help me get the healing pretty quickly.
This one I didn't realize how much it infiltrated my life. It affected me at work effectively in church. It affected me inside my home mainly with anger when I couldn't get my wife to understand what I'm trying to say I would get mad. You know, because it is further evidence that I don't.
I can't say things right. I don't anything important to say my kids wouldn't listen to me. I get extremely angry. You know, and sometimes the punishment didn't match the unit what they were doing and until God kinda went and had me deal with each one of those. That's when the Bitterroot came out and in the end you still there, he still out there walking on tempting with that but I just don't give credence anymore but it took years years years for that to come out because it was so entrenched and it came out in all these different directions.
And that's endangerment agreement that you let go to eval or even if you don't go to valve an agreement you let stay there.
It will work its way into a Bitterroot if you're not careful, that make sense. I dislike the word credence days outward. Yeah, clear lower than Jim's nightmare hello hello said that was Jim and Eve, you got a clip force. Would you like to tell us what about your clip.
Maybe I'm good thing. May I listen up to hear the Mike jerk so I couldn't find my attendant and let me know. The truth is a true third times when things are just an agreement that is the truth. But anyway I feel like I ran onto a really good when I have ever seen this movie become from the movie Anson, it's about this happening Z that's got some serious problems in a week calendar like 3 to 4 maybe five agreement three Vasquez and I throw in a couple Bitterroot stood for support to make a salad.
You know how many he's got it all, but he's really damaged and its he's just kind of articulating all the stuffed notice as you hear there is a clip goes along. You hear a lot of never and a lot of always those are more related to the bowels of the make and just he's messed up dude you know and I think it's funny that is a list with an error has a good Bitterroot's picture of how that tasted like it sounded. His fear of enclosed spaces. I tracked the I always tell myself this can be something better at the Abbott make me think too much. I think everything must go back to the fact that had a very anxious childhood. My mother never had time for me and we were doing in the middle child in a family of 5 million you don't get any tension and how is it possible, and I have always had these these abandonment issues which plagued me.
My father was was basically a drone might have said, you know, the guy flew away when I was just a lot of and my job. Don't get me started on because say it really annoys me out. I was not cut out to be a work tell you right now I feel physically inadequate. I that my whole life I've never I've never been able to lift more than 10 times my own body weight and you get down to a dirt is you know is not my idea of awarding Korea gung ho simple organism thing that I know I can't get I tried but I don't I don't get it. I think you know I'm supposed to do everything for the colony and my needs without me. I can't believe this plays out there, that's better than this. Otherwise, I would just curl up and a lot of position of the full system makes me feel insignificant.
FO told he was miffed and I think that's where a lot of a lot of the way we feel at times we start making is agreement to bring zone great despair, like man, my life is a myth and you know I can't even lift 10 Times My Own Way. You know like you, even the good things you find a way to make him out to be bad, right, you know you those things that you're strong at your like you overpower the people around you with them. Whatever. So thing is really good clip pointed out one things I was thinking that as I could plagued you listen to it before was.
That's the difference between knowledge and healing. This characters he had all the knowledge of things that it went wrong in his life but he never did anything with it but just lived in it is taken it into God getting healing and I get nursing and unite that that's that's the name of some of those attributes and their of people that you know the candidates live in that place is a lot humanity like that sadly be to lay really good at a view of where what God thinks of them in and you know really what other people think the enemy will will take those agreements. Those those lies in and they're connected to some kind of wound or something some kind of word somebody spoken your life and he'll he'll just stir those up and he'll keep them in your mind and in and keep you in a place of of feeling likely that you anything as I think more about it either to trees in the garden through knowledge to rely societies all about the knowledge yet look at the Internet for just what it is mama find out who's in that movie is laser for its its knowledge base and in and that's the problem of some of the self-awareness. The people are going through. Self-awareness is great unless it just stops there.
I can know what my agreements are but if I don't turn them into Jesus and cities that need to hear the husband in this relationship you need to break this agreement.
For me that's what so scripturally. The husband can can break the agreements I need him to do that and I need to walk in that freedom in order to break the valor to help unearth the Bitterroot's inside and east of the microphone in front of you so you want to talk you anything about any agreements or valves or anything. This is going deeper and yes I was thinking about this and you know there's a lot of agreements made my big one had to do with me. There's multiple, but probably the biggest one was that I didn't realize I had an orphan spirit and that was pretty much taken on life to to to do myself. You know, there were times I felt like I'd given God an opportunity to come through and he has. He had really done a lot of times you know it was just a misunderstanding what was going on whenever I really stepped into that whenever he became a father I begin to really have these agreements broken off. It was, but that came about because my dad lifted a critical time talk about many times in those things will sometimes be hidden from you. I would've thought my dad he was lemming always knew that it was all good but I didn't realize how important was when he left at that time went on, manifest itself of everything's on me and then when things don't work out, it's even more of a report card and reflection on you and you internalize those things, like the well I don't really have what it takes and those things become more ingrained have a lot of never and always tied to become valves I can't. I don't know if I really have a bitter agreement. I've had some of the guy had a good part of the gospel in my life.
A lot of times I like to think that I didn't have a bitter Bitterroot agreement but you know it very well could be all I can tell you is friendship and an identity or like grenades to agreements and bows.
Couple things on that that would start it and then will come the rug that would start very simply with you dad me in Ghana and you hear something says you're on your own and is a out.
I'm on my own. You're the man of the house. Now you may not have raised in this is that the types of things that they they seem innocent enough, or even a well-meaning relative asset to write trying to pump you up and it is just solidifies the agreement is like yeah but I wasn't finished yeah you know that's great but what I don't have what it takes. Yeah, thank you for giving me that title that I'm not prepared to do right that's way it fell a lot of times and there things that I knew that I did come through for what I would do it that we talk about a lot of focus on those as strengths and avoid all the weaknesses because those were the weaknesses in those were the things that you continue to make agreements with you know I'll never be a strong man I'll never be able to beat this anger this last whatever may be yeah and part of the Bitterroot agreement we talk about you and God comes and peels back layers. If you start to peel back more and more layers on you. There's probably a Bitterroot agreement area right, it's not just one or two times and done kind of thing if it's something coming back to is more ingrained in your life than you realize you and that's probably good indicators okay guys are Bitterroot attached to this don't help me get it running at something you want to know that Andy has been the one that is talked on an awful lot about orphan spirit and I remember when you first said that as I know what that is. I just really paid no attention to Scanlon on remand in the 80s, I think we think yeah that could have been bigger but he kept bringing it up and finally it as he talked about more and explain the situations I might know that's what is meant by an orphan spirit. When you're like you're a basically you feel like you're alone in the fight and then I was like okay I made the agreement that I don't have an orphan is an orphan spirit stop me in my letter on my oh my gosh I got in office. I just remember going through that whole trail is smashed in early since I joined up with you guys and is like oh my gosh Rodney is so messed up to you to start thinking about those things you cite okay stop stop stop stop… Let's work this thing out like okay yes I'm an only child. My father really wasn't affectionate. All my mom was there but was no saying things into my life that I just basically ignored. II just I wouldn't pay attention as I get whatever mom will go back to whatever you're doing. I'm a man I'm over here in this camp right I'm just I'm just different and I had all these excuses and reasons why not to listen to certain people my life and then you hear him cite master listen these guys little more and that that was what any that I was glad you've talked about it for so long because it's meant a lot to me.
Over time to go. Oh that's what that feels like.
So I started understanding when I feel like I'm alone itself. I got to hear that Mike oh that's an agreement, you can't. You have an over spirit outbreak that so I appreciate thanks in all this is just one quick follow-up. You're right. You mention your your mom and you and your mom was still close. My mom will still influence my life and she was always there because mentor recently but there's something about that of what a father evidently was I was orphan by my father and my father bestows masculinity so I didn't have that bestow men of masculinity from the teenagers on most when I feel like more important in those early days really so foundational in a few spots a lot of movies you'll see a lot of that there was a cute connection with the young boy early on with their father and then the father disappears at those critical times, usually because the father is going through some midlife crisis and trying to get his validation understand like himself. Yeah. And it may not be that there they've left the family that you they talk about the John writes in wild that big part is the industrialization and movement when when fathers went out and to work. They were gone, multiple hours, you know, long days and didn't see the kids in the conurbation contribution to the family was the paycheck and not necessarily be emotional strength and and and and presence yes you can have a really good dad heart that's want to do things, which is physically isn't there because work requires him to be in a different place so Emily rest of you think about the story you want to share with play clip and then come back and talk about it. This is from the movie Aaron Brockovich, and so what's going on here is she is an investigator and she is unearthing stuff for this attorney so that he can get a court case. He promises her bonus of things come through things come through in these comes in to talk to her about the bonus and will try to pick it up from there and talk about when we come back and have your bonus check.
No, one should be prepared is not exactly what we discussed is that careful consideration, I felt that figure was, not to appropriate although you may not agree you have to trust my experience as you want me to trust you do me a favor and use big words, you don't understand the complicated issue you should reward me. Accordingly, the problem lawyers to situations. All lawyers are backstabbing bloodsucking scumbag because they are believe you are doing this to me now come the plaintiffs, which by the way, we had gone out there to be looked after by strangers. Number working in this firm as I was saying, I decided that the figure you propose was inappropriate.
So I increased obviously Aaron has some type of predisposition of what she thinks about attorneys is a comes out very clearly on her about what she thinks attorneys are all about things funny about that clip gets quiet and she looked at the check and the check is $2 million and I don't remember what she propose to him. Keep in mind she propose something much lower, much, much, much, much lower, and he comes back with something else and I love his poise and that he did not it rattling Unitas let it be a teaching moment, and I wish that all the times I went off the deep end like that would be teaching them that they weren't always like that you also like to share anyone I can call on people and you and him yeah yeah how do I share so before I met any of the guys at the mask on journey. I had no idea what an agreement was and after going to boot camp sent in a list of the podcast started look at my life and start to figure out what agreements I'd made one of the biggest grimace at me throughout my life was that you know I wasn't a good father to my children. Most recently I mean a lot.
He already know the story with with my daughter Ashley you know she's she's had some issues throughout her life, and most recently, some more intense issues. But you know I started to notice that you know everything we did everything every time I try something always came back to it is not good enough. I'm not doing this right. I'm not you know I'm not punishing her correctly. She still get worse and this is a helping and really when I broke that agreement it was me, my wife were in the living room talk about it and she's the one Ashley broke it for me.
She would and he said you are you are good enough, you are doing right trying everything they can and once I broke that agreement then you got started. Speak in life through me into my daughter and we've seen some some changes in her and everything like that but you gotta really dig down figure out what that agreement is in and I can promise even want to break it. The enemy still that prowl around around you on little hints of that back at you. Since you will follow fall back into your agreement that you made. I would challenge any thank you Dave.
I would challenge anyone out there just throughout the day. Try to listen to the inner conversation that's going on and see how many times the enemy tries to get you to make an agreement its relentless. It is relentless. That is the number one way of getting to you in the right along something happens like this can be a terrible day. How do you think that is going to finish out probably terrible because that's a lens of that I'm looking at life through right now right or ever coming out of boot camp initiated on here before.
This is pray for five boot camp to go by.
I just made this agreement and am always tired after boot camp, which wasn't true. I dismayed I heard it on my go yeah that's true, always tired, and I was tired until the point we like for week we can have two weeks and finally went know I'm not and they just went away any leave. Henry Ford said, what do you think you can or you can't, you're probably right on the notice thing about love in the midst of I think breaking the agreement as it here. Got it got called me toward doing some writing stuff in same and I talk about this today, so men breaking through the thing this is you're not good enough for you really don't have time for that, or you waste it was time to be doing that or just just the whole relentless attacks of what you got other things you need or or when devising new levels to read what you write. Anyway, so in the midst of that serve you find it, we could pray over you after the show good medicine that I can. I can't things. That's one of the things I've been doing with that worker makes a job and a been there since January really knock your socks off, but I had that agreement and again grab hold of.
I can do the same thing got came along, actually through my boss you got one with you that is greater than any of my bosses got off speaking to her life. A few Leas go out this week and ask God to open your eyes to the agreements made the ones that are trying to get sucked into by the enemy and then also discussed and help you break any of the valves the Bitterroot all those things mask on journey.org registered for the upcoming boot camp. That's November 17-20 will talk to this is Truth Network