The National Organization of Women Loses Its Mind

The National Organization of Women has gone full-blown Marxist. Delighted to serve as your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity. I'm going to open up the phone lines for anything and everything, whatever in the world you want to talk to me about, ask me about, probe me on, challenge me on, if it relates in any way to the line of fire. We're not going to talk sports or economy or things that are irrelevant to the line of fire or things in which I have no expertise, but anything that ties in with anything I've ever covered, I've got over 7-8 million words in print and God knows how many words out there and messages.

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It's posted on The Line of Fire website. The title is this. The National Organization of Women Would Leave Even Karl Marx Scratching His Head.

The National Organization of Women Would Leave Even Karl Marx Scratching His Head. I start the article by talking about something that happened about 40 years ago, as I recall, because I seem to remember where I was. I saw a TV ad on a Christian network. And it had the Bible translators presenting the King James Bible to the King, to King James, presenting it to him. And he opens it, he's very happy. And then he reads, he reads in Psalm 18, with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward, or froward, with the froward thou wilt shew thyself shew thyself froward.

And he looks up and says, what is froward? In other words, that the King James English was even old English for King James. That was the story of the ad, whether it's accurate or not, I don't know. But that didn't happen.

That thing didn't happen. But whether froward was an old word, an old English vocabulary, even then, I don't know that. But the point was, hey, we need a language, a Bible translation in modern language. That was the point of it.

But it was presented to King James, and he doesn't even understand it, right? So why I was thinking of that was I read this statement by the National Organization of Women. And remember, they're radical feminists, radical pro-abortion. We pray for their salvation.

We pray for them to come to know the Lord Jesus died for them, just like he died for a homeschooling mom, shed the same blood for all of us, wants to see us come to know his love, right? But ideologically, we are poles apart. We are ideological enemies in terms of the views that we have are polar opposites on so many key issues for marriage, family, women, abortion, life of the baby, etc. So they posted something and ended up getting deleted for good reason after ridicule. And as a few weeks back, I only spotted it earlier this week, but I thought, this is so radically Marxist that you could show it to Karl Marx and he's like, what is this?

What? Karl Marx couldn't even get it because it's so radical and extreme. So here's the post. This was on X, formerly Twitter from NOW, National Organization of Women. Repeat after us, weaponizing womanhood against other women is white supremacist patriarchy at work.

It's hard to read this with a straight face. Making people believe there isn't enough space for trans women in sports is white supremacist patriarchy at work. Let me read it once more. Repeat after us.

I love the mantra, like the brand washing mantra. Weaponizing womanhood against other women is white supremacist patriarchy at work. Making people believe there isn't enough space for trans women in sports is white supremacist patriarchy at work.

And I wrote, I could picture Karl Marx, the arch proponent of class warfare, reading this several times over and then asking, what in the world does any of this have to do with white supremacist patriarchy and what on earth are trans women? So what are they even saying? Forget the logic behind it. What does it even mean? And sometimes that's many statements of the radical left. It can be so esoteric and abstract and you, oh, we get it, we get it.

It's like, what does it even mean? So Christopher Tremogli writing in the Washington Examiner said this, Now's post should undoubtedly be the metaphorical nail in the coffin for the contemporary hyperbolic hysteria associated with the words white supremacy and patriarchy. Much like claiming that men can become women, these phrases are also delusional works of the corrupted lexicology of the 21st century. Objecting to men competing as women has nothing to do with race.

However, being that accusations of racism have been the bread and butter of left wing political discourse for decades, whoever crafted this post for now was just repeating this toxic and baseless behavior. Let me let me give you an illustration here for a minute. All right.

And we'll get back to our article in a moment. Let's just say you're playing you're playing ball, right? Your kids, you got, you know, one kid is the ump. As you're playing a game, you're playing softball or something. And you got one of the kids can't play that day. So he's just going to be the umpire. He's got a sore leg.

And let's say there's a call you don't like. This is white supremacist patriarchy. What's that got to do with anything?

You can all be Asian, you can all be Native American, you can all be Jewish, you can all be white, you can all be black, you can be girls playing. This is white supremacist patriarchy. It's like, what does it mean? Has no meaning whatsoever.

You know, you get your food at a fast food place and you realize they gave you the wrong order and you bring it back saying, hey, you gave me the wrong order. Well, you're just trying to pull white supremacist patriarchy out. The phrase is used with no meaning. Have there been issues of patriarchal oppression of women in world history? Of course, in parts of the world to this day, of course. And have there been issues with white supremacist attitudes that have suppressed in history? Of course, no one's arguing that.

But not everything is white supremacist patriarchy. And the more you throw the words out, the more you're saying, we have no argument. We have no moral argument. We have no ideological argument.

We have no logical argument. We just have rhetoric. Repeat after us. Repeat the rhetoric.

Let me let me keep going here. Riley Gaines, the swimmer who has spoken out female athlete, who has spoken out against having to compete against males who identify as women. Here's what Riley Gaines says. I've never seen so many oppression buzzwords in one sentence. Apparently, advocating for fair sport makes me a white supremacist.

I wonder if my attorney will agree. But hang on. Riley Gaines is white.

Oh, but there's only one issue. She is a she. She is a woman. She is a biological female. So how is this white supremacist patriarchy at work when she says it's not fair for biological men to compete against women? Here's another quote. This is Taylor Silverman.

She is a skateboarder. She said this. I take the National Organization for Women claiming that fairness in women's sports is white supremacy about as seriously as I take them claiming men can be women. They are blinded by this lie and desperate to scare people into silence. Men in women's sports impacts all women, including minorities that the National Organization for Women seemingly want to erase to push their ridiculous narrative. And I said she's absolutely correct. There's no world in which now's comments can be taken seriously. Biological men compete against women hurts black female athletes as much as white female athletes. How, then, is the call to fairness in sports an example of white supremacist patriarchy at work? And when female athlete after female athlete denounces the dangerous practice of allowing biological males who are bigger and stronger and faster than females to compete against females, how is this white supremacist patriarchy at work? Really, now, what does any of this have to do with whiteness, let alone white supremacy, let alone the patriarchy? When tennis great Martina Navratilova, herself a feminist and a lesbian, decries male bodies in women's sports, how is this white supremacist patriarchy at work? And if the father of a teen daughter raises concerns about his daughter being forced to share a locker room with a biological male with his plumbing still intact, how is this white supremacist patriarchy at work? What kind of social madness is this? Yeah, well, this is what's out there, but here's why I'm happy with it. It's so absurd, it's so crazy, it's so over the top that only those who aren't thinking rationally are going to embrace it.

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Even though I don't hear music or an intro, perhaps a feed just cut out. This is Michael Brown. Welcome back to the Line of Fire. The number to call is 866-348-7884. That is 866-348-7884. I've got more to say about National Organization of Women, the absurd statement there, some other things I want to cover with you. I wrote an urgent appeal to believers, an urgent appeal to Christians to stand with the Jewish people today. Please help share this article. Get informed. There's some very intense quotes in it, very intense.

I just want to warn you in advance from Jews and Christians from the past that will really shout loudly to you. You can go to thelineoffire.org, click read for the latest article and you'll see it, thelineoffire.org, click read. All right, let us go to the phones and we'll start with Christopher in Kern, North Carolina. Welcome to the Line of Fire. Hello, Christopher. Are you there? Yeah, go ahead.

Yes, I'm calling. I'd like to hear what your understanding is of Abraham, you know, of Abraham telling Pharaoh, I think it was, that Sarah was not his wife, his sister. Is that a lie or is that somehow excused?

How do you understand that? It's the Line of Fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. There we go.

We just had a little glitch there, but we keep going. Okay, my apologies for that interruption. Okay, so Abraham and Pharaoh, that's in Genesis, the 12th chapter. When I started to interrupt, I thought you were talking about Moses and Pharaoh later. So he does it twice.

He also does it with the king of Gora Bimalek in Genesis 20. It was deceptive. It was deceptive. On the one hand, she was a half-sister.

Now, under later Israelite law, that was forbidden. So a half-sister, same father, different mother. All right, so she was a half-sister, but he lied. It was deceitful, was deceitful. And he did it just thinking, hey, you know, if I say it's my wife, then they're going to kill me and take her because even though she's an older woman, she's beautiful. So it was deceitful.

It was an agreement that they made because there was some truth to it, but it was ultimately deceitful, which is why he gets rebuked by these kings. Like, hey, we could have taken her and slept with her. And then what? And that would be guilty of sleeping with another man's wife because we didn't know any better. So Abraham, with all of his exemplary behavior, still had human weakness.

And that was, it was a half-lie, but it was deceitful. Okay, okay. That's pretty much the way I understand it. Now, later, I think in the New, even in the Old Testament, and in the New Testament, Abraham is pointed out or distinguished by God to be... Great man of faith. Great man of faith. Yep.

Yes. So here's the deal. He was a human being, and he trusted God for the impossible. He trusted God to be able to have a child when it was impossible for his body.

As he was 100 years old and his wife, she was 90 and past the age of conceiving or bearing a child. So he was able to believe God for that and trust God, and trust God in many other ways. And yet he was still human and had some frailties, and rationalized his way into certain things instead of simply trusting God's protection and saying, she's my wife, and trusting God to protect them there. So a man of faith, but a frail human being like everyone else that was not perfect. And that's one of the things the Bible does. It speaks honestly.

It speaks honestly about leaders and heroes that they had blemishes to. All right. 866-348-7884. Let's go to Janine in Aurora, Colorado. Welcome to the Line of Fire.

Hi, Dr. Brown. Thanks for taking my call. You're very welcome. I'm wondering if you could please tell me what the truth is about Palestinians being kicked out of their homes in 1948. I'm not really informed about this. So were just regular citizens evicted from their homes?

Yeah, so here's what happened. The mass eviction was from Jews in all the surrounding countries. 800,000 Jews were evicted from their homes in the surrounding Middle Eastern countries with the formation of the modern state of Israel in 1948 and had to flee for their lives.

That's historical undeniable. A number of factors happened together in 1947-1948. The UN partition plan was accepted by the Jewish people in 1947 and then implemented in 1948. It was rejected by the surrounding Arab nations and by the Arab peoples. They weren't called Palestinians and they were just Arabs that were living in the land. It was rejected by all of them and the word was we will drive the Jews into the sea. So when Israel declared its independence, the five surrounding nations, so Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, etc., the surrounding nations declared war on Israel and now it was a war for Israel's very existence.

So in the midst of that war, several things happened. Between 600,000 and 700,000 Arabs living in the land, which we now call Palestinians but the one called Palestinians then, they left. Why did they leave? Many left because the Arab leadership said leave.

A cannon can't distinguish between a Jew and a Gentile. Leave, excuse me, between a Jew and an Arab. Leave when we drive the Jews into the sea, come back. So many left on their own volition. Others left just because there was war going on and it was dangerous to be there and others left because they were driven out by the Jewish army in the midst of the war. However, the Jewish posture, the national posture, they printed leaflets in Arabic. They made announcements on Arabic radio saying stay.

There's room enough in the land, let's be neighbors. So what ultimately happened was that 600,000 to 700,000 did leave but 200,000 stayed. Those 200,000 are now over 2 million today living in Israel.

That's 20% of the population of Israel and they have more rights living in Israel than the Palestinians living under Palestinian authority in Judea and Samaria called the West Bank or living in Gaza under Hamas. What I'd encourage you to do for more detailed history is to go to our YouTube channel, The Line of Fire on YouTube and just search for the word occupier. I did a lecture at a university in Florida some years back asking the question is Israel an evil occupier? Is Israel an evil occupier?

I go back through actual quotes from 1947-1948. I explain how each plan that was offered to the Arabs living there years earlier the Peel Commission in the 1930s said hey the Jews get a little part of the land, Arabs get everything else. They said no, it's our country and then same thing with the UN partition plan 47-48. They refused it. If the Arab leadership had accepted it there would have been a two-state solution now going back almost 90 years actually if the leadership had accepted it. They rejected it.

They rejected the one in 47-48 and then they've rejected various things that have come their way since. So in any war you're going to have things that happen that are bad. So Israel was not perfect and it's engaging in war any more than the allies taking out the Nazis were perfect and there were German casualties but number one many left on their own accord because their leadership told them flee and we'll drive the Jews into the sea.

That's number one. Number two others just left because there's war and they didn't want war going on and then number three others left because they were driven out by the Israeli army in the midst of the war but those that stayed have prospered and grown and have more liberties than anybody else in the Middle East any other Arab Muslim people in the Middle East living under Israel. They have representation in the Parliament.

They've had Supreme Court Justices. So that's the reality. Go to the Line of Fire YouTube channel and search for Occupy and you'll find the full-length lecture that should really help you out. God bless. Hey friends Michael Brown here. My delight to serve as your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity. We are living in such urgent times today friends that all of us are in the Line of Fire. There's a target on your back.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks friends for joining us on The Line of Fire. Right before the broadcast today I signed the first 60, no first 59 copies, we've got more to sign, of the pre-order. The pre-order of Turn the Tide numbered signed copies. How to Ignite a Cultural Awakening. One of my friends read this book, one of my colleagues, and got back to me.

We sent him an advance copy and he was flipping out. He was so excited and he said every homeschooling parent, everyone involved with raising kids they have to get this and Christians in the business world they have to get this because we lay out strategies. Practical Bible-based strategies as to how we can have a positive impact on our culture in the midst of the cultural madness. How we can be positive agents of change. You'll be inspired and you'll be instructed. So you can still pre-order.

We'll do our best to sign as many as we can before I leave for Italy tomorrow to get them out to you as soon as possible. So go to thelineoffire.org right on the home page. You can see where you can pre-order your copy of Turn the Tide. I believe this book is going to be must reading, a holy manifesto for cultural change through the Gospel. So before I go to the phones 866-34-TRUTH I want to go back to some of the the radical social agenda that is out there today and how the pushback continues. As we've said for years the left is going to overplay its hand and therefore there's going to be a societal pushback.

The key for its success is ultimately for the church to lead the way in this pushback. There's an article I have here just saw it right before the show today posted on foxnews.com. Jillian Michaels apparently a celebrity fitness trainer says evidence quote irrefutable trans athletes should not compete against girls.

Middle school girls in West Virginia protest after losing to a transgender shot put competitor. And Jillian Michaels said this, you've got two competing goals in sports. One is inclusion which everybody can understand and get on board with. However the second goal that's in direct opposition with inclusion is this instance is going to be in this instance is going to be a fair competition. And if that's your priority, if your overriding priority is going to be fairness over inclusion you've got to turn to the data. And the data irrefutably shows that biological males are 10 to 30 percent stronger, faster, have better endurance, better aerobic capacity across the board.

So you have so many instances now it's several hundred. I haven't documented all of them but I've been reading lists now of several hundred cases documented where a male who identifies as a female has defeated females, in some cases crushingly, in some cases doing physical harm to them. Like in a volleyball game a biological male spikes the ball, hits the head of a girl so violently that she's concussed. Or a team at halftime, a girl's basketball team quits the game, coach pulls them off the court because of the physical violence of a male player identifying as a female grabbing the ball and rough with the female players.

It's not fair and it's not safe and it is sanity that will prevail. You sound like a bigot. Oh I sound like a bigot because I say that there should be fairness in sports. I sound like a bigot because I say that that a girl that works her whole life to get an athletic scholarship somewhere shouldn't be deprived of that scholarship because there's a biological male who gets in her place. It would be like saying there's an all-girls school and the ones that get into the all-girls school are the ones who are the tallest and the fastest. It's like well guys just identify as girls because they'll be taller and faster they get into the all-girls school.

Is that fair? No it's bigoted to take the position that how they happen to perceive themselves take precedence over fairness and safety even ethics. There was an editorial in the Charlotte Observer years ago when and we were involved in meetings with city council and school board and helping to lead the way with some of our other friends in the community to speak out against this madness. It was saying that every public bathroom or school bathroom locker room has to be gender neutral and however you identify you get to use the place of your choice and the Charlotte Observer to their lasting shame said that that girls will just have to get used to the presence of male genitalia in their in their locker rooms. I mean what what kind of absurd gross obscene thinking is that and it goes on and on we must not get weary of pushing back because the light is shining the tide is turning and even though there's so much pain and so much suffering because so many young people are are transitioning and getting sterilized for life and getting castrated chemically castrated and and generally mutilated and only to find out years later they made a terrible mistake so we have to keep speaking that a lot of bad stuff is happening but eyes are being opened eyes are being opened one other news item just to say we've got to stay vigilant how about this California school let me get this story here California attempts to sink citizen initiative mandating schools inform parents of a child's preferred identity so the state of California is trying to stop when parents say hey if you're going to change our kids identity at school and you're going to start saying that Sarah is Sam or that Sam is Sarah and and the other students will be required to to refer to Sarah as Sam and as he or to Sam as Sarah as she but we're not going to let the parent we're not going to let the parents know so of course there's a massive pushback against this and the states is trying to is trying to to remove parental rights for the oversight of their children these kids could be led in a way that leads to their suicide to terrible decisions as they're getting older to even separation from parents being taken out of the homes this is an outrage we must continue to speak and act by the way it's another reason why turn the tide is essential reading Dr. Al Moeller said this what's going on here this is a proposed citizen initiative in the state of California that isn't radical at all it would simply say that if you have a child in that public school in the public schools who identifies as and is identified as a transgender identity or for that matter a non-binary identity if the child is presenting a different identity at school than home the parents need to be informed you'll notice that the California state authorities the California education authorities in terms of the public schools don't want that to happen parents speak up stand up we must make our voices heard otherwise it's on us it's on us when society goes to hell in a handbasket and we didn't speak and we didn't act and we didn't stand it's six six three four truth let's go over to Jesse in Minnesota welcome to the line of fire are you there okay maybe not let's go to New York Rick welcome to the line of fire thanks for calling are you there okay I'm having that sneaking feeling that there is a problem on the lines truth could you let us know what is happening as I send multiple question marks to our studio there all right well you can try to call unless those colors just dropped out eight six six three four eight seven eight eight four but I don't know what happened to our colors the joy of doing live radio with multiple studios and facilities all involved at the same time all right looks like Jesse and Rick are trying to connect again so we'll get this worked out and then we'll get both of these gentlemen on the line as soon as we can eight six six three four three four eight seven eight eight four I am not pulling my hair out I am not losing my mind I am not discouraged even though there's so much crazy stuff happening in the world around this number one because Jesus is Lord because God is my father because God rules and reigns and that's that's where my focus is more than anything happening in this world that's number one number two I know that in the midst of the craziness he is working out good purposes he is saving and delivering and healing and glorifying his son and the same God who promised me in 1983 that I would serve in a revival that would touch the whole world I was privileged to do that from 96 to 2 000 in Pensacola as several million people cumulatively came from 130 nations and were touched in the Browns revival that same God promised me that as surely as there was a civil rights movement in America that there would be a gospel-based moral and cultural revolution I get to be in the thick of it and we're seeing it unfold little by little we're seeing the pushback unfold in fact I want to read something to you from a Christian attorney friend of mine he said this just sent it out to a small group of leaders on a totally unrelated note an interesting trend is developing in red states more are taking action against major banks that close accounts of conservative groups of the troublesome variety at the prodding of leftist investigators so all you you don't want to do business with them they're radical they're extreme they're dangerous and and their bank accounts are being closed states are increasingly taking action and withdrawing all state funds from those banks hitting them where it hurts those banks will be crying uncles soon so the state's saying you're going to close the account of a conservative of a conservative organization because you don't like their ideology what well then we're taking our money out this is the kind he says of organized response we need to lessen the left's control and influence in corporate America it took conservatives a while to figure this out and it's overdue we're already seeing a rollback of dei focus in major corporations with more companies totally dropping the references in their annual reports he adds in a similar vein disney reached a settlement with florida and insiders say the new understanding is that the company will stay out of political issues like the absurd and misleading don't say gay campaign which cost them a good chunk of their family base my family is an example disney vacations were regular events when the kids were young and we swallowed them off many years ago likewise wealthy ivy league alumni are revoking funding over the current anti-semitic lunacy on campuses notice how quickly that got presidents 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been reading your book going sin no more and i just feel like this this book is really important for today as well i could totally see this going along with the other books you've been releasing recently and uh i'm getting a lot out of it and um yeah so i really appreciate that and yeah look just basically believers living godly lives believers finding god's grace to overcome sin and live transformed lives that that's going to affect the culture around us as we just live differently right yeah yeah so go ahead yeah go ahead yeah my question was about your ordo salutis i know that you have more or less an armenian westerian sort of soteriology but i i've also heard that it's a little bit different so i'm i'm curious what how you would how would you would frame that or if it would be anything different about armenian and wesleyan no not not really different you know sometimes i just don't like categories because i i don't think so much in terms of systematic theology as much as exegesis of texts and then you kind of just put together what you get from the text and it may fit into a standard theology it may not but no the basic order would be the same that we are lost in our sin that we're unable to save ourselves that we're spiritually dead meaning separated from god that we do have a will that can say yes or no but our choice will ultimately be no in ourselves so god comes the the gospel is the power of god to salvation so the romans 1 16 the gospel carries the power of salvation in it romans 10 17 faith comes by hearing and hearing by the message of christ so as that message is preached then there is what we call prevenient grace there is god working on the heart of the human being and we can say yes or no so as many as received him john 1 12 to them he gave the power to become the sons of god so we receive him and as we receive him we are born again we go from death to life we go from darkness to light from the kingdom of satan to the kingdom of god so we receive him we trust we put our trust in him at that moment we are born again as opposed to the calvinist view that you are born again and then you believe which with all respect to my calvinist friends i find to be scripturally out of order and then just one follow-up i just wanted to know if you ever think there is a kind of point of no return um and maybe this would be synonymous with blaspheming the holy spirit or maybe it would be something different but i'm curious about your perspective on that as well yeah i do believe there are points of no return i don't know that i could tell you i know a person that has gone that way for sure and they're hopeless and don't even pray for them there are people that i know have heard the gospel and resisted it and mocked it and resisted it for so many years you wonder if they've hardened their heart beyond the point of recovery you know proverbs 29 one says that the one who is often reproved it hardens his neck will suddenly be destroyed and that without remedy or second chronicles think 36 16 that they mocked the message of the prophets to the point that that there was no remedy they refused they refused they refused and judgment came so i do know there's a line that can be crossed it could well be synonymous with the holy spirit with blaspheming the holy spirit that the heart is so hardened that even when it sees the holy spirit doing glorious work in front of its eyes it attributes it to the work of the devil or just that hardness of heart that ultimately utterly rejects god but there's a reading of hebrew 6 4 through 6 that says that if anyone falls away they can't be renewed in repentance i don't believe that's the right way to read that i believe that's written to to a jewish audience jewish believers and saying if you go back to the old temple worship if you go back to your old way and think that you don't need the messiah you're crucifying him afresh and as long as you're in that state there is no salvation there is no redemption there is no forgiveness but i don't believe it's saying that if someone falls away they can't come back and most of us over the years if you live long enough you'll see someone leave the faith and may god's grace come back that's the whole message for the prodigal son so i hold that hope for people that that i knew in the lord that turned away one of my friends it was 45 years praying and and and hoping and and occasional interaction and god brought him back you know saved early on before me and and we walked in the lord together and he fell away was away from the world like 45 years but on fire today burning bright but yes certainly there is a point of no return and a person like that has no interest in god no interest in the in the gospel uh is absolutely hard-hearted and have rejected and it's like steel they're not truly struggling and i want to come back but i can't they have no interest they have crossed that point of no return i just i don't know for sure that i could say i know i i can identify people like that but they do exist all right thank you so much for answering my questions dr brown you are you are very welcome god bless you eight six six three four truth we go back to rick in new york thanks for reconnecting welcome to the line of fire hi dr brown i have an embarrassing question today to to ask you in regards to the millennial reign of um what is it romans 517 and revelation 26 okay the millennial reign of christian people it is embarrassing because i don't think too many people are willing to ask it is in this reign of christians as we are co-heirs with christ and romans as you know in accordance to romans 817 is there going to be what is your speculation regarding sexual pleasure not for procreation but for pleasure in the 1000 year millennial reign of christian people right so my understanding sir is that we'll be resurrected so we are with the lord resurrected glorified uh ruling with him over a a repopulated earth where people will be uh engaging in sexual relationships for the purpose of procreation but we will not and uh i don't believe we'll be wired to so as far as everything i can see sexual pleasure is something for this world only and the world to come will be so glorious that we won't miss it okay i just wanted to ask that because there's you know the people that were born with cerebral palsy never had a chance at romance in this present age and i guess they're not going to have a chance in the coming age also yeah but yeah but think of this though sir there are so many things that so many people never get a chance at in this world i mean there are endless endless things there there are people who've lived their entire lives in the inner city and have never been to a beach in in in the ocean there are people that have never stood on a mountaintop and looked out at things there are people that never had the joy of having parents they were orphaned they're people who never had the joy of having a sibling there are you know it's it's just it's it's endless in terms of what people haven't had in this world people have their lives cut short they never got to live to be older so they're endless endless things that we haven't experienced uh someone that just felt called to be single or forget a sickness or a disease they just never found the right person to marry and kept themselves sexually pure they never experienced sexual pleasure there may be within a marriage that someone is is badly injured in a car accident and they can't have sexual relations for the rest of their marriage there all kinds of things that we don't have in this world that different ones are deprived of it's not like for example if you're raised without parents now in heaven you're going to have a home with parents to make up for it when aborted baby never lived in this world at all not even for a second so the world to come is going to be so much more glorious so much more wonderful and the presence of god so extraordinary that we won't miss any of the things in this world and what it does underscore and to my knowledge rick you get the credit for being the first person in the history of the broadcast to ask that question and to my knowledge i can't remember being asked that question just in general in any setting uh but that being said and if it was a personal question the bottom line is this sexual pleasure can be something beautiful but the sex drive so intense that many people destroy their lives over it many people lose their ministries over it many people make terrible decisions over it but it won't be missed in the world to come it won't be missed because the glories of the world to come and the beauty of the lord and the adventure that we're going to get to live out forever and ever so that's that's something to think about the glories of the world to come that these things that are so powerful in this age won't even be missed hey thank you sir for the call all right remember be 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