Terror in Israel; Shavu'ot (Pentecost) in Jewish Tradition; and Your Calls

Another terrorist attack in Israel. You better believe it reveals a whole lot stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

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This is Michael Brown. So glad to be with you. 866-348-7884 is the number to call any Jewish related question you have of any kind you want to talk to me having to do with Israel. The Jewish people. By all means give me a call if you Jewish person you don't believe Jesus is the Messiah will discuss that if you're Christian don't believe that modern Israel fulfillment of prophecy want to discuss that all these topics are good to go on thoroughly Jewish Thursday 8667 Susan 866-34-TRUTH 7884 is the number to call another terrorist attack in Israel. It's Ramadan. This is a time where all Muslim men will religious Muslim men, even not those as religious often participate from dawn to dusk.

They'll have nothing to eat or drink and then feast at night is the time of the special Islamic fervor and devotion, and in the midst of that there is often more anti-Israel violence. But this latest attack in a market it their all. Hannes they're all horrific.

They're all attacks on innocent men, women and children, but in this particular case to men in woman market in Tel Aviv. There dressed as Hasidic Jews of his ultra-Orthodox Jews have a meal they were dessert and then they get up and start shooting people, and you can see it all in the security footage.

One of them was shot and treated in Israeli hospital. The other one apprehended of Hamas is celebrating this Hamas celebrating this horrific attack, but but let's let's think this through fully the way the media reported it the way CNN and BBC reported that at the beginning is very very telling and eye-opening.

I want to talk you about that on the line of fire today. Remember you haven't signed up yet for Israel, tore it next year. You see Israel toward terrorist attacks elicit safer in Israel than in many places throughout America and that we've never had an incident any of us in all of our tours over the years. So we are wonderfully safe as we go. But anyway you get the car to drive from your house to work you got more chance of something going wrong, you say what and why the big focus in Israel.

Number one, there are intentional attacks on the limited children as opposed to a car crash because it car malfunctions. This is, if not for Israel's constant vigilance, heightened security, if not for that there would be hundreds of these attacks every year, if not thousands right back in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

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Michael Brown glad to be with you, so here's what happens. I was about to get on an interview with Janet partial on her national show discussing my new book, the grace controversy and while I was doing that the producer called me just minutes before we go on and solicit the opening segment she wants to talk about the shooting in Israel with you and then we'll get to the grace controversy said find it, let me just check on that because it's not doing radio would come up in between doing radio, and when I was about to do this with her sons and looking at the news or anything like that so of any anyway. What happened was that I get online to find out about this and as it stands now of four Israelis were killed, three, or in critical condition, dozens wounded, according to the most recent reports that I have read and when I was looking at CNN headline news just on the CNN website. What's what I saw was that it it had the word terrorist" and said that Israel's reported.

Thus, in section says to terrorist and Heather were terrorists." What terrorists your your you're not recognizing them as terrorists that this is this is a no other terrorist attack in Israel blatant Hamas taking responsibility for unless they take responsibility at that moment, everybody, everybody, the world basically knows it's a terrorist attack but CNN wants to not listen. We have expose this type of reporting numerous times as of others when it comes to CNN or BBC, and an out here. And here's a report from Jerusalem Post. CNN deletes tweet apologizes for a headline which question Tel Aviv terror attacks.

The attacks were without question, terrorist attacks, the news agency said in a press release. Initially, though they put the word terrorists" on their Facebook page and online on CNN.com. They put that" additionally, as the Jerusalem Post reports the news agency failed to mention terrorism even once in the article reporting the idea of the your deal. Similarly, the British news network sky also neglected to use the word terror or terrorism in their report on the attack. It's raw and Tel Aviv.

The BBC headline Tel Aviv, shooting three killed in attack. In shopping center attack was also markedly void of the keywords the telegraph as well as the Guardian also live in the terror attack and shooting instances in their headlines. I mean this is this is blatant misreporting.

This is refusing to recognize Palestinian terrorism is terrorism on and after all, it's against the Israelis.

After all Palestinians have a right. After all, they're agreed to.

Who knows what others thinking is going on there.

This is Muslims attacking Jews.

So we call it terrorism. Who knows what the reasons are that this is been a consistent pattern for years well documented.

Now here would you get out of this Tel Aviv shooting three killed in attack.

In shopping center attack aside for the word attack being used twice what would you get out of that maybe who knows what happened, and it was a shopping center in Tel Aviv. There there cut and it was really a shopping center. But anyway, that's the to the put is moral market but what you get out of that maybe there is some criminal in there and came in with a gun and started shooting. Or, you know, there's a shoot out your maybes. Who knows some Savino husband tracking down his wife was having an affair and and shot the couple people and he was shot in you don't know that that this is Palestinian terrorist attacking Jews sitting there having a meal. Just a casual night out and ended some time together in a beautiful night and Tel Aviv shooting incidences in the headlines of CNN swiftly remove their tweet and issued an apology via twitter on Thursday evening: the use of quotation marks rather were terrorist in the news headline a mistake as a previous now removed family to scroll down here. Let's see, yet a previous now removed tweet okay anyway they that's their statement. Previous narrow treat appeared to call into question the Tel Aviv attack is an act of terrorism. It undoubtedly was to the boil boy of how many times this will make the same mistake. Before you say there's something to it happen. How many how many times how many times does the same thing have to happen over and over and over and over and over before you say there's something to so I made a mistake I II backed into your car for the 10th straight time after after saying I be more careful. Sorry I got called an idiot. After a saying I wouldn't do it. That was demeaning and wrong. How many times does the media do the same thing before you say there's something up here. There is something up here, here, here, here's what I reported back in November. This was of what couple years ago for the decade. Major news outlets have been exposed for biased anti-Israel reporting yesterday. In the aftermath of the horrific synagogue attacking Jews, leaving five dead and six wounded that bias surfaced again back in 2001 the pro-Israel watchdog group pointed out a disturbing trend in BBC headlines. What is real engage in acts of war targeting the Palestinians headlines reported this in the active voice and with clear attribution of responsibility, stark contrast with pallets, Palestinians attacked Israelis headlines reported this in the passive voice and without any attribution of responsibility and then we cite examples.

So with consistency. Israel's role is spelled out explicitly the Palestinians rose not even mention April 3, 2002 camera the committee for accuracy in Middle East reporting posting is extremely glaring example of anti-MIDI anti-Israel media bias and eyesight that then then over the years, whether it whether it is BBC weather is the Los Angeles times what is CNN. This is been demonstrated repeatedly. So here you have a horrific shooting synagogue and Orthodox village on the outskirts of Jerusalem hard enough early morning prayer as rabbis and their other ultra-Orthodox Jews in there for the early morning prayers to Palestinian terrorist command start shooting them, attacking them with with knives or axes. I mean just that the they released photos of the scene after she could see the blood, and that it was just utterly horrific and CNN initially reports audit saying that the killings took place in a mosque rather than a synagogue. The first headline that CNN ran was for Israelis to Palestinians killed in synagogue attack, Israeli police say even more ambiguously on air. CNN declared for Israelis to Palestinians dead in Jerusalem happen for Israelis to Palestinians are dead, Miller's bad car accident. Who knows what happened. Maybe Palestinians picked on the other Israelis picked on the Palestinians and passing his foot back in six people got killed. Who knows what happened.

Maybe somebody else killed all six the blaze reported that CNN was heavily skewered online early Tuesday morning's company is back almost years ago for headlines that initially appear on their website and on-air following the deadly terrorist attack in Jerusalem is the blaze noted the headlines noticeably omitted that the two Palestinians were the individuals armed with guns and axes with Artie said were responsible for the attack, which claimed the lives of at least four worshipers that 1/5 victim, a Druze Arab servant Israeli police force died later in the day of his wounds so many CNN issued a formal apology later that day, but what one world one the world with all of these bogus headlines put in the word terrorist" and saw a Jerusalem post. In another example, this one even more egregious again going back was two years the website a British newspaper the Guardian ran a story about the attack from Reuters. The wire dispatch, the agency sent included the headline Palestinians kill foreign Jerusalem synagogue attack and led with the sentence to Palestinians arm with a meat cleaver and a gun killed four people in a Jerusalem synagogue on Tuesday before being shot dead by police. However, the Guardian change their headline to four worshipers killed in attack on Jerusalem synagogue and their lead. They also excised any reference to Palestinians publishing two men armed with knives and pistols go for Israelis and wounded several others in a Jerusalem synagogue, why not identify them as Palestinian terrorists. Does it violate your narrative. That does that doesn't make it hard for you because you have to make Israel always look bad. The Palestinians always look like victims and Muslims can't be terrorists about some honest reporting CNN others.

It would all make mistakes and we can all apologize, but when there's a consistent pattern, you have to ask why.

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That's what I like to find out from CNN and from these other news outlets, especially in England. What you keep making the same mistakes. Perhaps they are not mistakes.

Perhaps someone somewhere in the loop or someone's several people in the loop of posting headlines and getting their their stories out. Perhaps one person or more than one person. Perhaps there is bias. Perhaps there is a desire to report things a certain way. Either way, that's reality that were dealing with 866-34-TRUTH 87884. Let's go to the phones on thoroughly Jewish Thursday Bruce and Prince Frederick, Maryland, thanks for calling the line of fire, mature, never go back. Part of. And crack every time in several more. The journalist or any news media per person whose pro-Israel. I would be a very compelling evidence evidence trail and my question is on acts 15 and 21 and very clear distinction between messianic Jewish believers observing Torah of the on the Lord's command and the probably yes it enacts the 15th chapter. The big question was this a Gentile need to become a Jew in order to be saved is a Gentile need to come under the law of Moses, a man be circumcised and come under the law of Moses woman of obvious that circumcision, but in other ways, to the law of Moses with a need to do that in order to follow the Jewish Messiah Jeff to join credited very simple terms, the Jewish club in order to have the Jewish benefits and is was no Gentiles do not need to become Jews or come under the Sinai covenant of the Torah in order to be fully accepted by God through Jesus the Messiah.

So what about the Jewish believers while it was assumed that they would be keeping the Torah was assumed that they were observing the Sabbath and that they were celebrating the feast on with this was the biblical calendar. These are the biblical commands Yeshua said he didn't come to to abolish but to fulfill. Here's the question here's the question. Once the temple was destroyed once so much of the Sinai covenant could no longer be kept, but 75% of the forever commandments and the Torah require a functioning temple Jewish sovereignty functioning priesthood in order for those commandments to be fulfilled. I believe that there was increasing understanding of beginning with the teachings of the Messiah.

For example, that that nothing that you each defiles you on the inside, beginning with his teaching on the Sabbath and things like that that there were seeds planted so with the destruction of the temple with the absence of priesthood and animal sacrifice that Jewish believers realize that God had made a new and better way. So the question comes up. What about today. Well I have plenty of messianic Jewish friends that feel as part of covenantal solidarity with Israel as part of God's lasting purpose is to make Israel a light to the nations that it's right to observe the seventh, a Sabbath that it's right to observe the biblical calendar not in a slavish way in a way of of of covenantal connection and identification and I absolutely affirm that right differ with some of my messianic Jewish friends is if they feel it's obligatory in other words that that as a Jewish believer in Jesus. Let's say bacon which I don't that I would be sending because I did or if if I didn't strictly observe the Sabbath, a Sabbath that I'd be sending if if I if if I didn't do that. That's right would differ with them respectfully and say that we are under a new and better covenant so I absolutely affirm identification with our people absently or absently affirm the validity of keeping the biblical calendar.

Just not in a binding way you are. You are very welcome Bruce and again these are things everyone has to wrestle with. But I do appreciate the call I any Jewish related calls of any kind that you have for me. Glad to take them today. Shall I let's just see here yeah I'd I'd I think this is going to post on Facebook in a little while but II notice this quote on YouTube. It was with the Jewish caller challenging me on my belief in Jesus and this individual watching on on YouTube said this time I Rabbi Tobia Singer calculation Rabbi who has steadfastly refused to debate me for 25 years now.

We didn't debate in the home of rusted Russian messianic Jew that was recorded. We recorded it.

He requested that we not release those audiotapes that should tell you enough because it was an informal debate agreed not to release them and then we did a debate on radio show. That said, Roth had back in that day. A one hour show that went over big secular station in the greater New York City and we did that debate and then we edited down with with the three of us agreeing on what we would cut out of it so we can get down to a 90 minute cassette. If you remember, cassette tapes, some still use them and we did that and then I really reached out to Tobia and the door was shut in my face and he's refused to debate me ever since, but very interesting comment. It seems Rabbi Singer puts love of culture, tradition, religion, along with his pride above God.

It blinds them to the obvious truth course God is Toby's judge, not you or me but certainly we pray for salvation. The call ramp to repentance. And this, cassette I've seen and try to explain away Isaiah 53 with insanely long repetitive gibberish amounted to nothing. Thank you Dr. Brown. You've made everything so very clear to me. Cannot thank you enough.

Hey that's that's why we do what we do to help make things clear to help open up with the Scriptures do say and God is the judge of the sincerity of others. I have Rabbi friends that I believe are very sincere man and we sincerely differ on these points and we pray for the eyes of the other to be open but it's always troubling to me when counter missionary will will challenge us within, refused to debate will challenge things we've written, refused to debate colleagues with Jews for Judaism as a calling, some of them are friends of mine till challenge Leverett will have a public debate. I find it unfortunate.

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Check it out. You find tons of valuable resource Expo line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown looking for life by reaching six or any Jewish related Israel related questions you have for me. I'm glad to take your calls on this thoroughly Jewish Thursday will get to David Duke thing, not quite yet. Let me just share some things going on around the world that pertain to the Jewish people of this was reported from May 29 but just catching up with it now to wrong times.com Iranian Institute to hold cartoon contest on Zionism. I can assure you it will not be a flattering cartoon contest or praising the courage of the Zionists or the patriotism of the Zionists must solve an Iranian Institute that organizes programs on him on modesty and other Islamic teachings. That's the Islamic and Tom Redeemer classical the cartoon contest on Zionists design caliphate international cartoon and caricature contest will be held in two categories Institute announced on Sunday, Theodore Hartsell, the founder of the political Zionist movement and Elizabeth II, the Queen of the United Kingdom are the themes of the caricature section. I love seeing Elizabeth II focused on that regard. The cartoon section will focus on terrorism, racism, and the crimes committed by iso-so is not interested. So in the context of the crimes committed by so-called Islamic state Isis iso-it in the their context of terrorism and racism. They will have a cartoon contest focusing on Zionism. The Institute asked artists from around the world to submit their works until June 16 top one of the cartoon section will be awarded 5000 in cash for the first run the caricature section will receive $1000 I would love to see what they come up with.

You won't make me happy but will be certainly eye-opening and you know the dictum one. One picture is worth a thousand words.

Sometimes these cartoons in a few words reveal so much which really striking which really striking is to see the that the parallels between Nazi cartoons the way Jews are depicted and then Islamic cartoons attacking Israelis and Jews the way they are depicted IME on time. At the same imagery, the very same imagery, the very same levels of accusations so so it's telling that the their propaganda. The mindset of the Nazis against the Jewish people before there was a Jewish home state of Israel.

Before anyone can accuse them of being that the evil Goliath that is terrorizing that the poor Palestinian neighbors know before any of that could could be raised. There was virulent Nazi anti-Semitism and that tied in with previous Islamic anti-Semitism, hence the use of similar images today.

One of the accusations that radical Islam or Islam through the centuries has brought is that the Jews were were bloodsuckers literally that at the time of Passover that they would they would kidnap a pre-story. Now to just be a Muslim or something like that they would crucify them and drain their blood and then use the blood for the making of matzoh these accusations you could find them circulating well and that the 1800's and beyond and the Nazis had similar bloodsucking images of the Jews as venomous parasites again common demonic theme common satanic theme. No surprise to see it so prevalent across these different ranges of hatred. But here's the question is real perfect Jewish people perfect Jewish people without reproach to Christian support Israel because Israel is so righteous that Israel sends a lot of pics that seem offer come back to a set of great right here on Thursday through Thursday on the line file line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown. It is 30 fire thank you for joining us today. 866-34-TRUTH 87884 with your Jewish related questions. Here's what was right before the break. I think this is a very valid question that we have to address. I am one who strongly calls for Christians to stand with Israel does not mean standing against the Palestinians does not mean double standards means that if Israel does wrong is a friend of Israel you speak to Israel and you urge them to do right, but it means that number one we recognize that God has restored the Jewish people to the land as he promised that the God who scattered is the God who has regathered number two we recognize that there is a satanic attempt to wipe out the Jewish people through historic Jew hatred right up until this day. Number three.

We recognize that there is a prophetic battle, and that Jesus is returning to a Jewish Jerusalem.

Therefore, there is going to be dispute over Jerusalem and Jewish possession of Jerusalem. These are just some of the things we recognize number four. Recognize that Israel does want to live in peace with the Palestinians mowing the Palestinians want to live in peace with Israel.

I'm not speaking for every Israeli and every Palestinian but I can say that freely because this thing remains true it's dispute if it remains true is a general statement. If the Palestinians were to put down the weapons there'd be no more war if the Israelis were to put on the weapons there be no more Israel. Other words if there was a genuine desire to live peacefully and and say how Moss genuinely said we we are wrong.

We have been wrong ideologically or been wrongly been fighting this religious presuppositions are wrong and by the way, hell will freeze over before that happens, slowly, or become awesome if it does that, but we can pray for the salvation of of individuals in Thomas, of course, are for the end of that the terrorist, springs, but if they were announced that genuinely and submit had a change of heart. We see the world. Our kids are growing up and it's terrible.

And we know that is really hurting ourselves. If the Palestinian Authority did the same thing in the masses of people did the same thing and they were not daily attempts to to perpetrate acts of terror against Israel.

Then there be peace, and the economy of the Palestinians would would greatly benefit and the well-being that the mutual participation in things it would be night and day, night and day different. Okay absolutely, night and day different official puts other weapons Terrace would like to mouth that simple because orthodox Islam does not believe that Israel should be that of the Jewish people should be there in the land. It's that simple. And in this is this is Islamic territory and in the Jews rejected Mohammed early on, so there the sons of monkeys and pigs. In the end will not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews and conquer them so this is part of Islamic ideology and theology, and we recognize that in and standing with Israel that Israel ultimately the bulk of the Israeli population would not have a mindset or theology that sees the Palestinians have to be wiped out or have to be destroyed for Israel to fulfill its destiny all live together in the land. If there was peace so the problem is though that Israel's greatest supporters are evangelical Christians, Israel's greatest supporters, conservative Christians in America and other nations, especially the older generation of us, but many of the things that that the nation of Israel is for conservative Christians are against mean, there's a there's a very very strong pro-abortion policy in Israel and if you're young lady serving Israeli military mandatory two years for young ladies and and three years for young men if if you're serving in Israeli military and you get pregnant you have an abortion paid for by the government. I love it's endless but it's certainly done very commonly Israel has a massive Gay pride events in Tel Aviv Tel Aviv Gay pride event is the largest in the world. So the per capita if you take that the population Israel compared to the nations, could be the largest in the world and and then I just saw this Paul haven't been able to dig into it but it says that 76% of Israelis 76% is better than three quarters favor same-sex civil unions even among the ultra ultra-Orthodox the car ideas the call card game which is is is the word for those who tremble based on the profit that the word Isaiah speak of those who tremble at his word card game that the most pious, the most outwardly observant of of all Jewish people. Even a small percentage of them were open to some type of civil union recognition or something like that is much as they oppose homosexual practice while it only when were called to stand with Israel and Israel violate some of our conservative ethics and values.

How do we stand with them. What if we only stand with Israel because Israel is always in the right and the Palestinians are always in the wrong then that will be skewed.

Our solidarity will be skewed is that woman that gives Israel carte blanche to do anything in conservative Christians evangelicals will support them. The five. A family member in a family member does wrong, I'm still going to show solidarity with a family member and Esther as a family member. I will do what I can to help them get back on the right path is a family member. I will do what I can to see. Okay, maybe to being falsely accused. Look at it like this with you like this if there's a crime committed by a gang member in your city and this is his 20th criminal act according to the police and it's in harmony with his last 19 and you want to know who broke into your car. You did know that you're in this gang infested area when you had to stop for a moment and get your car who broke into your car while you were away and they say oh it's it's this kid yeah and he's a thug and this is his 20th criminal violation. He's in and out of prison all the time.

Your first response is not him but couldn't be him him notice on possible that you gotta be kidding me. He could never do something like that.

That's not your first response you first response is right that explains it and it knows in that area in the Navy as a Christian is a poor guy is awake and help her maybe bring the gospel to them and what about his family background and he may had two strikes against them from birth. You might have the compassion attitude but your and I can think impossible him.

No way. But but if it was a family member that they say oh yeah we found out social broke and you collect what that's my cousin. He is left an unbelievably good guy. He's he's never got a speeding ticket you kidding me, you would know how to break into a car. I know his family couldn't be him.

You have to have hard-core evidence before you would believe it was him right. I had a close friend of mine many years ago accused of adultery as it couldn't be you got your facts wrong.

No way couldn't be no way no how. And then he said, looking infested to us than my heart sank. But until then I was going to send them because I knew him and up until I thought I knew to be management's integrity no way this could have assisted many many years ago.

So what I'm saying we stand with Israel.

It you give the benefit of the doubt when you hear the latest reported by evil Israel doing this are doing that that you you look into it. You investigated no I don't immediately condemn Palestinians. I know there Palestinians who don't want to see these are the attacks of someone I retweeted a comment I want Palestinians just absolutely grieving over the murder of more Israeli citizens by Palestinian terrorists. Yeah there there are plenty who differ about their plenty celebrate these things and when you see Hamas celebrating these things, you know the source and the origin and the spirit of them so I stand with Israel. Even though Israel as a nation rejects Jesus as the Messiah. That's the biggest issue of all is I stand with Israel. Even though secular Israel is guilty of of celebrating things that God despises and has a very dangerous humanistic liberalism to still stand with Israel.

Despite Israel's failings and sins. That's always been the way it is. It's never been a matter of standing with Israel because Israel is perfectly righteous and that's what we need to understand so what Israel does wrong, we confront Israel with Israel is acting unjustly or unfairly we raise issues, but we do our best to get both sides of the story so that we can be fair and unbiased recognizing how often the media demonizes Israel. Now I know how students feel their demonized. I remember years back when I was about to be on the Phil Donahue show in New York City that my driver was Palestinian and talk to me about how bothered he was the way the American media reported on the crisis with Israel. These are there anti-Palestinian death. Is that interesting. I think their anti-Israel, but enough has been documented. BBC what he can find for I think enough has been documented that it's indisputable that there is media bias against Israel and the reporting take that into account only to recognize it is a have standing with Israel, not because of Israel's perfection cosmos for plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown for blasted not opening in Charlotte North Carolina. After each BQ was passed North Carolina earlier this year we blasted them for effective out of integrity on RN we stop using PayPal on our website switched over to something else that would be equally user friendly for those who support us, but we stop using PayPal as an option on her own website. People can still work through that and on their own it, but they they have now stood against the BDS movement in one particular instance the boycott, divestment, sanctions movement against Israel, which really is anti-Semitic, which ultimately hurts the Palestinians as well as or even more than the Israelis, but also the United Methodist Church.

They've taken a couple stands recently to write about this, but they have moved away from BDS, at least in some specific instances as well as come out more firmly pro-life and have not yet yielded to gay activism and normally you see this tendency of documented before that when a denomination goes left will shift on all these issues when they depart from the authority of Scripture and the plain teaching of Scripture in their own church traditions, they will become pro-abortion will become homosexual will become so pro-Palestinian, they become anti-Israel is interesting to see United Methodist now getting stronger, making a step back the right directions probably do the international a Methodist African Methodist and others like that but it's interesting to note, and as reported by tower.org June 3 31 countries adopt new definition of anti-Semitism that includes anti-Zionism. The definition clearly notes the criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic. But accusations of dual loyalty and the use of double standards against the Jewish state, as well as tenets of anti-Zionism like the denial of Jewish rights to self-determination are also considered manifestations of anti-Semitism. Let's that's positive that's a step in the right direction. 866343 go back to the phones, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Berkeley.

Welcome to the line of fire for like a Marco truth on current through prayer and frequently more targeted understanding, Orthodox 30 of them) can't understand what the work of an Orthodox person. How would they get to heaven after the target, but no don't believe Jesus didn't care what I understand, and I get to heaven, but my question sure what I need to do is explain that they're looking at this very differently than we are.

Nothing was. They are not thinking about how I get to heaven is the main goal.

Their main goal is how do I live a life of obedience to God that is pleasing to God by keeping his commandments.

That's the main focus, and some may be saying how can we live in such a way that we usher in the messianic age. So the big question is not what happens to you when you die of the big question is not we go to heaven when you go to hell. The question is how can you live a life pleasing to God in this world and ultimately help usher in the messianic era civil what about eternity today have any teaching on it yes and and some ancient Jewish writings say that this world is the vestibule to the world to come. So what happens in this world is preparation for the world to come. But just as Christians emphasize this world, but with a greater emphasis on eternity. It would be the reverse.

In traditional Judaism there is an emphasis on the world to come with far greater emphasis would be on the here and now is okay but but what about the question who gets in who gets excluded. How does that work. Basically, the mindset is this, that and unless you are a completely wicked person like a Hitler right or less, you were guilty of of absolute heretical beliefs.

Some would put a purse like me in a category like that unless you you you violate certain lines that you cannot go beyond that. Everybody has a place in the world to come, but that there is a time of of purging of punishment of payment for sins similar but not exact but similar to a purgatory type of concept solar and traditional Judaism. The of the worst punishment that someone can nevertheless it was like I say, Hitler and their ugly excluded forever.

The worst punishment someone could have is is a year, but the presumption be no one being that dad this. It's 11 months and during that time element of laboratory yet and in a purgatory type to sit in there is not a lot of teaching in terms of what happens there but it's basically where you pay for sins you didn't get to pay for here. On one level or another. It's not that you're tormented and terrible flames and screaming to get out but to some level of punishment and and you might see Seo rich wicked person who dies at 90 with massive wealth having indulge themselves in every kind of sin while in the world to come that I get reversed. Where is the person who sacrifices separate here in this role gets reversed. Kind of like the rich man and Lazarus parable in her teaching of Jesus in Luke 16, but in short, every day when you are in this in between stage of a loved one is is asked to be in the synagogue saying a prayer.

It's called the mortar Scottish cottages is a holy prayer and and some of its even reflected in some of the prayers of Jesus offers even reflect some of the language so it's it's it's an ancient prayer or the some components of it are ancient but you don't say a word about the dead, all you do is praise God, the Lord of the universe. It's just a prayer extolling God and someone doing that for you every day is is seen as something that will aid or speed your your time in this this in between realm and then forever. Basically you get to study Torah and live by the commandments and and that's that's kind of the heaven for an Orthodox Jew that's in it envisaged envisaged misprint out there yet.

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There will tell you a lot about the different Jewish groups or denominations as some would call them from reform to conservative to Orthodox and then the divisions within that then some of the fundamental concepts of Judaism are you find that the very helpful and how do Christians relate to these things. 60 questions Christians ask about Jewish beliefs and practices so hopefully that's helpful for you absolutely correct. One more quick question. I returned to touch a what stay right there right stay right there I got a break coming up that I will start the new hour with Berkeley from Winston-Salem to stay there, sir, will take your other questions. Losses usually on the other side of the break member friends, go to our website. Check out our Israel tour February 25 to March 6. Now is the time to get your down payment in and join us for the unforgettable trip of a lifetime of one very confident that my bottom line today stand with Israel is of Israel's perfection or goodness of God's mercy and calling on the another terrorist attack in Israel. You better believe it reveals a whole lot stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome welcome to our thoroughly broadcast. This is Michael Brown and I am thoroughly delighted to be with you if you've got a Jewish related question anything relating to the Jewish people, modern Israel, the conflict in the middle east biblical prophecies concerning Israel concerning the Messiah. The Hebrew word or text.

Jewish tradition those of the types of calls we take on Thursday. If you're new to the broadcasters want to let you know that 866-348-7884 the number two call so terrorist attack in Israel yesterday. Two Palestinians dressed as Orthodox Jews sitting in a Market Woman Pl. in Tel Aviv. Some of my friends go there regularly and as the Rotary desert. This of the get up and start shooting for killed number critically wounded, critically injured, several dozen, I believe, wounded, one of the terrorists were shot is being treated is really hospital the other one was apprehended without being shot.

Hamas celebrates this now.

It's one thing friends.

It's one thing if you hear that leading iciest terrorist has been taken out in a drone attack and you can say thank God.

Thank justice was done. Thank God this man responsible for so much bloodshed and so many atrocities. Thank God there dead, you still might think.

What a loss of life.

What a wasted life. Satan's purpose is accomplished rather than God's in terms of bringing death, not life. You might grieve over another lost soul but to say good good. Just picture this picture this, that he was on his way to personally execute a number of Christians who had been taken hostage and they were okay be the girls will be raped and they're all gonna be burned alive and he was taken up by Joel before he got there and the other iciest terrorist flight in and the girls were liberated. We rejoice with joy yet absolutely I'd rejoice. I thank God for that intervention. Absolutely it's another thing if you find out God forbid that a Jewish man went to a Palestinian neighborhood dressed as a is an Arab sat down in a market and then started shooting men, women and children. Innocent men, women and children were just there and enjoying a meal together. If we rejoice that that that would be sick if we rejoice that that that would be ugly if we rejoice that that that that would that would be glorying in something satanic in an act of murder, cold-blooded murder. So when we look at the response to these terror attacks and see how Hamas consistently celebrates them, and many under the Palestinian Authority consistently celebrate them at all tells you about the murderous nature tells you about how all Jews living in Israel are guilty in their eyes, and in some cases all Jews worldwide are guilty in their eyes or their plenty of Muslims and their some Palestinians who grieve over these things and more and feel terrible over them, but this is what happens is what happens when you allow hatred to dominate. This is what happens when you imbibe the theology of radical Islam. This is what happens when you let a spirit of anti-Semitism rise within your heart yards I've heard it said in Israel.

The only good Arab is a dead Arab. There are some who hold those sentiments and I reject them and I deplore them and I renounce them absolutely without question and and all my friends and colleagues in Israel denounce them as well and repudiate them as well and a costly working behind the scenes for reconciliation with Arab community and especially with Arab believers, but with this terror. It must be renounce these terror. This result announces terror probably terrorist at heart themselves right back with your call. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for joining us on the line of fire and truth. All right, go back to Winston-Salem and blessed our was on the phone with Berkeley, who had another question. Thanks for holding Sir what is your Jewish related question mentally earlier Orthodox person or when what McGarr them 11 or 12 month purgatory. I played Scrabble in the rounded and so attached to what I know about Catholicism is a question of their connection there between the Catholic Church get this from the Jewish belief or Berkeley, you had to be perfectly honest with you I have never studied the subject of purgatory, and the teachings of purgatory in depth over the years. It sounds odd because it's such an important question. The most common specifically what we believe about this, but to be honest, I've never focused on it from that angle. In particular, and no not not growing up in a religious Jewish home. I didn't think much about Jewish tradition coming to faith in the church that was anything but Catholic. I didn't think much about Catholic tradition. There certainly many things that the Catholic Church took from Judaism in certain aspects of liturgy were certain traditional concepts to the Catholic Church built on prior Jewish concepts and that the most likely thread is the reference to prayers for the dead, and in the books of the Maccabees, which of course are included in the Catholic canon and reported the Septuagint's account of the the Jewish canon that was used by some Jews or some parts of the Jewish world before the coming of Jesus and then and then thereafter in Greek as well.

So this was never the official Hebrew canon Maccabees as we have them, and in Greek, but the that concept. There were the that would be one part of it that that they would have as common ground Catholics and some branches of Judaism, even if Judaism did not ultimately affirm Maccabees as canonical. They were still well-known historical writings and review historical writings so that would be a common thread there and then just human logic that wants to be able to do something when someone dies, you can't bring them back but can you do to help them. Is there anything you can do I can. I pray for them. So this idea of of praying for the dead, you can understand it psychologically and emotionally. And if you knew that someone was out the best person and they didn't listen to you in this world. Well, at least you can pray for them in the world to come, says tremendous emotional appeal of, but beyond that of the common origins of this or to what extent you can compare Jewish beliefs about the afterlife with the Catholic beliefs that just is sub subject.

I haven't looked into sufficiently but I need to because it's important question. Okay, I'll get your book are Christopher yes 60 questions Christians ask about Jewish beliefs and practices.

I think you'll find it to be very helpful. 866-34-TRUTH 87884.

You know what, let's let's switch gears here totally totally and since it is 30 Jewish there is that I got a bunch of stories to talk about and to cover okay Johnny Grant from eclipse 13 and 14. So David Duke formally grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. That's the Ku Klux Klan and a well-known anti-Zionist anti-Semite white supremacist.

He may dispute some of those descriptions but that's how I would describe him raw story.com reported two days ago former KKK leader David Duke came to the defense of one of his political idols Tuesday, blaming Donald Trump's legal problems over scandal plagued, Trump University on a new culprit who is responsible. And, according to David Duke wise Donald Trump coming under scrutiny with these lawsuits against Trump University. Perhaps this is part of a larger attack against David Donald Trump.

What does David Duke have to say. Actually, Joey, Johnny, those clips reset separately. They were sent, so please take a look for them. You do have them will will locate them.

Okay, say what I will leave you wondering who is David Duke blaming and then we will find those clips and get them to you so you can listen to them.

So let's let's switch to okay switching subtexts here Michael Abbas. This is on Palestinian watch Powell watch.calm mocking Abbas claims and he's done this before so is the head of the Palestinian Authority. He claims now that the Palestinians are a 6000 year old nation, direct remodeler boss.

The Bible says that the Palestinians existed before Abraham really the addition of the Canaanite Palestinian alphabet was more than 6000 years ago.

Bosses advisor claims must we all have bosses we have been here for the last 5000 years and have not left this land. Our forefathers of the monotheist Canaanites and Jebusites Canaanites and Jebusites mock mono theistic Canaanites and Jebusites will somebody please somebody please tell me where there is any evidence that there are mono theistic Canaanites and Jebusites that were in the land.

5000 years ago.

So a thousand years prior to Abraham.

Can anyone give me any shred of historical, archaeological, literary evidence whatsoever, or that there was a cat Canaanite Palestinian alphabet thousands of years before there is any other alphabet that ever existed.

I mean you had things if you go back 5000 years. Early pictographs and near 4000 years, hieroglyphs and things like that go back 3000 something years, you have the beginnings of alphabets and stuff a syllabary is that they become alphabets. 30 503,000 years ago, but now you got of Canaanite Palestinian alphabet. That's more than 5000 years old. Yet, there were Canaanites in the land when Abraham was there. They were idol worshipers and they have no direct connection to the later Arabs, Palestinians years with palaces know to make Palestinians believe that they have an ancient history.

The proceeds Jewish history in the land of Israel. Palestinian Authority leaders regularly fabricate tales of a 5000 or sometimes 6000-year-old Palestinian nation recently PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and his advisor must middle have off each spoke on two different occasions about a Palestinian nation that they claim proceeded Abraham in the land of Canaan Abbas� Represented the Bible by claiming biblical support for his claims.

He said this our narrative says that we witness lances before Abraham are not saying that the Bible says it.

The Bible says those words of the Palestinians existed before Abraham. So I recognize my right Abbas a statement about the Bible is false only biblical reference, Abbas could be talking is the text that Abraham brought many days in the land of the Philistines were the Philistines have no connection to today's posting Arabs. The Philistines were people of Greek origin settled in the land of Canaan and lived beside Israelite tribes, Palestinians or apps. Could I have had ancestors in the land for biblical times proceed Israelite. You then stated is Arabs only arrived in Landon 637 CE with the Muslim invasion.

Needless to say the Palestinians are not mentioned in the Bible. Significantly, Abbas says that this fact is a fabrication's work is Palestinians right to the land. Now there there were those that are referred to as Arabs. There were those that were referred to as Arabs in the Bible. This is not the Canaanites.

These are others that were nomads and things like that from best as we can tell, but again there is no direct connection we can make between them and not a Palestinians, none what so ever right to vote. Got those clips. We've got those clips, but wait let me wait until we have little time to play them 866-34-TRUTH 7884. My question for you a question for you is who is David Duke blaming on Donald Trump's legal battles over Trump University. Donald Trump is been critical of the judge saying that because of his policies, which can seem to be anti-Mexican immigrant because this judge has Mexican parents that therefore he is not being he's being biased in the case is made those charges has been very critical. Trump sings racist David Duke says there is a another culprit, and now there culprit, so will find out who that is.

We come back 866-34-TRUTH. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you for joining us friends before I go to your calls.

Listen to what David Duke has to say in terms of who is to blame for Donald Trump's legal problems with Trump University. Start with number 13 and it is interesting how that the Jews are very the Jewish establishment is very aware they know about psychology.

So when they can argue with someone's political views when the mass Macbeth majority agrees with your say I'm building a wall and protecting American jobs and all these other issues he talks about and then they just continue to go after my every score they will they will attack Donald Trump is not a true Christian, which is really ironic coming from a Jewish maybe they will talk attack Donald Trump as being a planner. Even though my God, look at the Clintons they will attack Donald Trump in this case is defrauding students they will do whatever they are new and they always can marshal like a army of Jews get on there as experts and moderators and then they have Jewish people reporting on giving generation are the narrative of these events. It's amazing how they can marshal Marshall.

These Jewish tribals racist to advance their agenda and the try to psychologically impact the average person Jewish tribalists races is all the Jews. The Jewish media pin yelp there you have it disputed got straight from David to go. There's more to say.

Let's go to click number 14 when he Trump not to get an immense addicts on a compromise away are critical issues we need this to become an evolutionary movement where we continue to move to a real restoration of America not just trying to hold the line because at that defensive posture is a typical conservative posture of that will lead us to disaster.

We have to read. We need to actually reverse the whole immigration policy in this country not just stop immigration, but reverse it to get back to where we were, because the foundations of this country are not going to be preserved unless we preserve the ethnic composition of the skunk. So of course. Of course with this, there is the general anti-outsider mentality of David Duke and that's why he supports Donald Trump and I'm not. I'm not blaming Donald Trump for what David to colds to but yet you got it you got all the Jewish media out there and they're the ones giving Donald Trump a hard time and sings that acrylics the Jewish community are saying Donald Trump is not a Christian. Of those, basically, the Christians say that I will pray for them to truly become a Christian 866-34-TRUTH alright let's go to Winston-Salem.

Micah, welcome to the line of fire around. Thank you. I your word about reality and got it you have posted a note that there is starting last night when just a background for split second I made a comment last night and that simply said this, and it was it was certainly well thought-out in terms of, but the point I was making anyone who says the church is the new Israel and no national promises remain to the Jewish people does believe in replacement theology. People say no I don't. I believe film theology expansion theology. So on, but it all came to the same conclusion. Ultimately, that it was a form of replacement theology and then a different ones rescue questions from different angles about specific verses in number one, there's no time on on twitter or Facebook.

For me to interact in depth and number two I encourage folks right before the show a call in with a question.

If you are a debater discuss this so unresponsive that here are Micah thanks for the call on your agreement: (coming from. I I am performed in the material logical MORE sovereignty of God by I and more dispensational in my eschatology.

Immigrant criminal and I hold. Future salvation of Israel ethnic Israel during the during the tribulation on my question. Very planner and after questionnaire that I had a discussion with a fellow member of my church. Anti-reformed to have warned me that my view on reformed theology. Serologic sociology and my view of God is leading me astray, because reformed theology be anti-where is that coming from and how I responded but I don't feel like Martin or John Charles Spurgeon. I even John MacArthur do materiality hasn't let you where is he coming from and how I respond not sure things in her hands are stained with blood.

I documents anti-Semitism in church history, both Protestant and Catholic, and the worst offender of all of the Protestant side would be would be Martin Luther and generally you can see how certain Christian theologies and those that embraced some type of replacement theology often went the way of anti-Semitism and in in the last decades. Calvinism has not been known for a strong pro-Israel stance or recognition of the return of the Jewish people to the land or something like that. So perhaps your friend is looking at certain broad strokes.

Perhaps your friend is is looking at some comments. Calvin made that could be construed this is anti-Semitic here and there but having nothing within light-years of what Luther said but in point of fact, you are right that that there has been a positive view of Israel and the view that there is future ethnic salvation or future restoration of the land in the messianic era and some of the strongest proponents of that are Charles Spurgeon and Dean Martin Lloyd Jones. As you mentioned both of them, but also in in my book. Her hands are stained with blood. I have one chapter called the blessed and beautiful stream and that points to Philo Semitism in church history that points to Christian leaders who had a tremendous heart to pray for the Jewish people who esteem the Jewish people who wanted who long to see the day of the nation of Israel embrace the Messiah, who believe that there would be a physical restoration to the land in the messianic era with the Jewish people and almost all of them that I cite in that chapter Calvinists. It could be everyone that I cite I cite the Puritans, including the foremost Puritan theologian John Owen who may clear this there's no promise of world restoration or anything that doesn't begin with the Jews.

I quote this. Some of the saintly leaders of Scottish Presbyterians like Robert Murray McShane. The 1800s and entry bone are mean.

They had some incredible things to say. In fact, maybe, maybe in the next segmented to all of even share some of their quotes with your fist, just remarkable stuff and and Brandon know Spurgeon say there's anything clear scripturally. It's this, and indeed Martin Lloyd Jones and we don't put enough emphasis on this, so I will, I would say that your friend may be looking at some exegesis of Romans 9 to 11 in reformed circles that doesn't see a future for Israel, but there even folks like by Gary virtue. I have profound differences with over modern Israel today, but that he actually sees the future for ethnic Israel salvation as well write out my cousin. You can keep listening online or on the radio wherever you are, but I will read some quotes in this next segment, I think you find very edifying. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 866343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown walking to thoroughly review this Thursday on fire and usually questions you've got, will do our best to give you Jewish related truth filled answers 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884 I might I might write another article on the biased reporting that took place last night after the terrorist attacks in Israel so would have been late afternoon or early evening our time with CNN putting the word terrorist" with other outlets in England, not even mentioning terror Jerusalem post is great article exposing if it because I've documented the so many times I might just get a go go one more step and and asked the question asked the question very simple question at this happen again. How did this happen yet again. Let me share with you as I'm answering some questions that have come in on social media about Calvinism and the future hope for Israel. There are plenty of Calvinists today who do not see modern Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy in any way or who do not see a promised future of national salvation for the Jewish people turning to the Messiah at the end of the age, but some of the greatest Calvinist teachers of all time of had very strong pro Israel views. For example, John Owen, the greatest of the Puritan theologians revered by Calvinist. To this day, so the Jew shall be gathered from all parts of the earth where they are scattered and brought home into their homeland. They believe this would be in conjunction with the Messiah. This would be in conjunction with the Messiah being recognized by the Jewish people.

But the absolute believe there would be a return to the land. John Owen said this, there is not any promise anywhere of raising up a kingdom unto the Lord Jesus Christ in this world, but it is either expressed or clearly intimated to the beginning of it must be with the Jews.

Robert Layton, a contemporary of Owen Road.

They forget a main point for the church's glory. Pray not daily for the conversion which the turning of the Jews undoubtedly that people of the Jew shall once more be commanded to rise and shine in the return shall be the riches of the Gentiles, that shall be a more glorious time than ever the Church of God to get the whole Samuel Rutherford Puritan remembered for his deep passion for the Lord he he he said he'd wait that he delay going to heaven he would delay going to heaven so he could see Jesus and the Jewish people united system amazing cookies role in chapter 3 of my book, our hands are stained with blood old to see the site next to Christ's coming in the clouds, the most joyful our elder brother in the Jews in Christ fall upon what is not one of his neck and kiss each other they belong asunder. They will be kind to one another when they meet all day long for lovely day Don.

Oh sweet Jesus, let me see that site which will be his life from the dead.

The NI ancient people in mutual embraces Robert Murray McShane known for his godliness died a young age would 28th year in in Scotland, but his writings live to this day. He felt that God sent revival to his parish in this congregation when when God sent it through another vessel when he was in was in Palestine just going to see what was happening in the land kind of investigative mission that he felt that God poured out his spirit there in his home congregation that he pastored because he was in Israel because his focus was on the Jewish people and in a sermon he preached when he returned in 1839 from Romans 116, argued Israel.

His message was simply that the gospel should be preached first to the Jews. Why, because judgment will begin with them because it is like God to CareFirst for the Jews because there is peculiar access to preach the gospel to the Jews throughout the world because they will give life to the dead world. The Presbyterians were convinced as far as Israel was concerned. Blessed is he that blessed the yeah and that swelling values William C.

Burns powerfully and in this Scottish city of Kelso Flint and the McShane was in Palestine. That's the reason that's the reason many many more quotes minimal join Dr. Michael Brown, along with messianic Jewish pastor Scott developing unique behind the scenes tour of Israel.

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He said the great events of Israel's return to God in Christ and hissed Israel will be the signal in the means of a vast rise of spiritual life in the universal church and of an unexampled ingathering regenerate soul support for the world so so he saying that salvation of Jewish people and mass will bring about a mass world revival yes and then Charles Simeon famous Cambridge preacher from 1782 to 1836, a man deeply in love with the Jews in Murray relates this once in a missionary meeting.

Simeon had seemed so carried away with the future of the Jews that a friend passed him a slip of paper with the question. Six.

Millions of Jews, and 600 millions of Gentiles which is the most important Simeon at one scribble back if the conversion of the six is to be life from the dead to the 600. What then the words of Jewish people turned and mass that it's gonna lead to massive turning around the whole world, what then, and famous missionaries like William Carey and Henry Martin when they were quote tempted to weariness thought. Thankfully, of the promise of the Jews ingathering always member Calvinists. All of these men were Calvinists and yet they absolutely held to a future national salvation for the Jewish people and that encourage them as they were in their mission work and doing their outreach and preaching and some serving in Hindu countries like William carrier and in the Muslim world, like Henry Martin and in battling sometimes to see true converts. They encourage themselves with reminder of the promises of the God made to the Jewish people.

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