Should the GOP Moderate Its Stance on Abortion?

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What is the fair thing to do? If it's FDA approved, isn't that enough? You say well FDA approved for what? It's still going to kill a baby. Those would say it's terribly unsafe on top of that.

It's terribly unsafe for many different reasons beyond the killing of the baby but in terms of the mother's health. So massive debate, the Supreme Court ruling is going to be very important and we plan to dig into that further. But on the view, Whoopi Goldberg raises the subject of the GOP stance on abortion, a contrast, different positions within the Republican Party and I'm going to let her introduce things first. So here's what she has to say at the beginning of the view. She's setting things up now, this discussion among these different women.

You must get to what's going on. The Republican Party is ramping up its battle against abortion rights. The Supreme Court is reviewing the ruling of a conservative federal judge in Texas who banned the so called abortion pill and Governor Ron DeSantis who just made Florida the latest state to impose severe restrictions to abortion access. Now some Republicans like Nancy Mace want the party to ease up just a little bit, but Senator Tim Scott wants to take things even further. Take a look. If I were president of the United States, I would literally sign the most conservative pro-life legislation that they can get through Congress even if it was six weeks.

I'm not gonna talk about six or five or seven or 10. I'm just saying that whatever the most conservative legislation is that can come through Congress is what you would say. Yes, we need to find a middle ground on this issue and I have a great pro-life voting record, but some of the stances we've taken, especially when it comes to rape and incest, protecting the life of the mother, it's so extreme. The middle independent voters, right of center, left of center, they cannot support us.

So is this an issue Republicans are going to regret at the polls? I mean, everyone's talking like they know so much about woman's body, but when you try to ask them questions, they can't seem to answer anything because most of them don't know Jack Doogie about a woman's body and how it works. So what do you think? I mean, I'll ask what is going on with the party?

What are they doing? Okay. Now I want to go over to Elisa Farrah Griffin and she is more conservative than the others. She's worked in the Republican party, worked with former vice president Pence, etc. So she's going to present a more moderate view, a view that would be much more in keeping with pro-lifers that are listening to the broadcast today, but maybe not fully reflecting your views. So she's going to weigh in on a more moderate position to say, okay, look, here's the deal. We have to be pragmatic. If we take a real, strong line and say no exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incest, and even possibly for the life of the mother, then we're going to lose voters and we know long-term it's going to work against us. We won't get any of the laws passed. We won't get the justices that we want in the courts, etc, etc, because there'll be more liberal politicians in place, liberal presidents. So let's, let's advance the pro-life cause, but let's do it more pragmatically.

This is what she has to say. Well, I really appreciate that Nancy Mace is emerging as somebody who's willing to kind of break with the party and speak out. What I take issue with is 11 of the 13 states that have all out abortion bans don't have carve-outs for rape, incest, and life of the mother. And as we all know, Ronald Reagan was for that carve-out. George H.W., George Bush, that has been Republican party orthodoxy for more than 30 years.

And now we're going so extreme that we're saying even a woman who was raped or who, you know, was a victim of incest can't get the treatment that they need. Where I take issue as well is I actually agreed with the federalist approach of states should determine what abortion policy works for them. Texas ain't New York, New York ain't Texas. However, then you have activist judges who try to make what Texas wants become the law of the land for the rest of the country. So to me, that's kind of counter to the notion that we conservatives have pushed for decades. Politically, I think we know it's going to hurt.

I think we saw in the midterms. What I want to see from Republicans is if you're a Ron DeSantis or whoever, if you're going to sign one of these bills, then come out and defend it. Explain why you think the best thing for Florida is a six week ban.

What made you come up with six weeks? What's the rationale for it? I'm not seeing a lot of explaining or articulating the stances that are being. OK, so here's here's what I want you to consider. And we're going to come back to Whoopi Goldberg and I'm going to comment more on her position, which is not surprisingly very, very strong. Here's the real ultimate issue when it comes to pragmatism. All pro-life laws that I am aware of always have an exception clause for the life of the mother. In other words, if the only way to save the mother's life is by terminating the baby's life, you have to choose one life or the other. And so when when reference was just made in the clip to no exception for the life of the mother, I have to look into that more fully because I understood those exception clauses were there in the various pro-life laws that have been passed.

But here's the question. What if we could win an election, we could get laws passed in many more states in America that would say because states are going to decide these issues, what if we could get many, many more pro-life laws passed as long as we made exceptions for the for rape and incest? So that's less than 1 percent of all pregnancies, abortions, et cetera. Less than 1 percent of those, I should say, that they go for abortions. Of course, less than 1 percent of pregnancies.

So what what if we did that? The fundamental question still ends up, is that a baby in the womb or not? Whether it's conceived in rape or an incest, is that a human being?

Is that a child? And do any of us have the right for any reason to terminate that pregnancy? Does a mother have a right?

Does a doctor have a right? That's the big issue. And I'm going to come back to the pragmatism question. I'm going to discuss a case that came up last year where a friend of mine, a pro-life legislator, voted a certain way that was controversial.

But first, I want to play one more clip. And this is Whoopi Goldberg now weighing in with her position. This is my question. I want to know, particularly this judge, I want to know, what's your background, sir? Have you worked for the FDA? Do you have a science background? Do you know anything about how many different drugs work on many different people? It's not just one drug for one thing.

What is your background? Because I'm kind of getting tired of everybody's self-righteousness about what they believe. Well, I believe that I'm entitled to speak to my doctor and not be guided by you. This is not the state's rights. This is not anybody's rights but mine, according to America. This is my right. And I respect your feeling that abortion is the taking of life. I respect that you feel like that. I need you to respect that I have a different opinion. I need you to respect that my doctor and I will figure out what's right for us and move forward that way. That's what the FDA is for. That's why we have it. And every time you take a little bit of stuff away from the FDA, it's one more idea put out there that they don't know what they're doing.

So that means we are sitting out here with our behinds out, hoping for the best because you don't believe that the people you put in place can do their job. Okay, so here's what I wrestle with. Obviously, when she's saying to the judge, you know, what's your background?

What do you know about this and that? Well, all judges adjudicating cases cannot have expertise in all areas. That's obvious, right?

That is a given. That's impossible that they're going to have complete expertise in all areas. So they listen to other experts and then they get their own counsel and then they make a decision based on that. So this is going to be in hundreds of different cases. The judge can't be expert on everything but they have to be experts in applying the law.

So that's what they do. But here's where I want to take issue with Whoopi Goldberg. As a man, speaking to a woman, so I understand her body, her choice, that perspective, right? But here's what I want to raise. When Whoopi Goldberg says, I respect your opinion, if you believe that's life in the womb and you're taking the life of the unborn, but respect my position, that difference.

Okay, here's the issue. I'm not making the choice for Whoopi Goldberg, right? I'm not her god. I'm not making the choice in her life and if she lives in a state where there are abortion-related laws that are very progressive and liberal and that's where she lived and she was pregnant, wanted to have an abortion, obviously, I've got no jurisdiction over her life, right?

She has no jurisdiction over mine. But please don't say you respect the pro-life view that that's a human being in the womb and that it's wrong to take that life. It's terminating a life unjustly, unfairly, right? Don't say you respect that view and then say, but I have to respect a different view.

No, no. If you respect that view, then you understand I can't, I can't accept another view that gives someone a right to take that life. If I truly believe it is an unjust termination of a human life in the womb, that is my conviction before God based on scripture and conscience and many other things, then please don't say you respect that. They're going to allow you to go ahead and I should just say, hey, you have your view, I have mine. Not if I literally, legitimately believe it's the taking of a human life, right?

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Michael Brown coming your way from Kona, Hawaii, serving as your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity. So again, my pledge, I won't get your blood boiling unless I get your faith rising. If we talk about controversial subjects, it's not to draw controversy. It's not to get more clicks, more lists, more views. It's to edify. It's to say, okay, how do we sort this out?

How do we deal with this before God? So I was so excited to dive into the content today. I didn't even tell you where we're going in the rest of the show. So I'm going to take the rest of this segment to talk about these pragmatic pro-life issues and where we should draw lines and where we should stand. And then the second half of the show, I'm going to answer a wide range of questions that have been posted on Facebook and Twitter. I got a ton to respond to. I guess I'm always surprised when so many people respond, but glad to do it. When your ministry website is asked Dr. Brown and you have live call on radio, you do invite questions. So very, very glad to get to a bunch of them.

I think you're going to find the questions that we address really, really fascinating. Okay, so let me rehearse for you what happened in one state earlier. It was last year. A friend of mine, a rock-solid believer, loves the Lord, unashamed, gospel-witten, strongly, strongly pro-life. He voted as things were going through the state Republicans, so not on the national level, but the state house. So going through their committee and he strongly voted against exceptions for rape and incest. Now please understand, I'm speaking here as a man again, so I can only speculate, but I honestly cannot for a split second claim to relate to what a woman would feel who's been raped. Out of the gate, I'm just making clear, I cannot for a split second conceive of what it would feel like for a woman to be raped by a man, let alone impregnated by that man, and then add in perhaps even more horror to it by a family member, so it's incestuous.

So out of the gate, this is my default position. I am not for a split second claiming to be able to relate to what that would be like. Not for a split second. I'm not claiming.

You're 100% right. Any woman listening, I can't relate to it. Any woman who's been through this, God forbid, if you have, I'm terrible. I don't have words because I have no clue the trauma involved, the pain involved, the defiling feeling, the fear. I have no clue.

That's default. That's taken for granted here, let alone add into the trauma that it's a child and maybe a 12 year old girl to her absolute shock finds out she's pregnant and now some bureaucrat, somebody's going to say, no, you can't have an abortion. You're going to force this girl to impact the rest of her life through pregnancy. You're going to force her to have to live with it. And now what happens to the child that's born? Obviously, she can't care for that child.

It's on and on and on and on. So I get the argument. Again, I can't relate to what someone would go through. But yeah, I feel the power of the argument. Trust me, I feel the power of the argument. And look, if she could have the abortion before anybody else knows about it, save her the shame to stick with one of the other kids thinking class, but I miss her friends, I miss the rest of her life. Okay, I get it.

And we have to feel the weight of this. Now, that's an extreme, extreme case. But there are plenty of other abortion narratives that are very powerful. It's not just how do you kill a baby in the womb?

No, there is a strong pro-life argument that can be given when it's not just a convenience thing, not just what's going to mess with my career, not just that we weren't planning getting pregnant yet. No, I'm talking about painful, difficult cases. Some of you live through it yourself. You've agonized.

You wrestled with it. You talked with family members, with spiritual leaders, and finally felt it's just best if I have an abortion. God forbid that anyone would think I'm trivializing this, right?

So I feel the weight of it. And if we call ourselves pro-life, we should feel the weight of it because we should care about the life of the mother, the life of the woman who's been raped, et cetera, et cetera. Now, obviously, if we're dealing with the larger subject in society, I would say, right, let's not even discuss the 1% of abortions due to rape and incest. Let's talk about the other 99%. That would be my focus of having a discussion. Let's deal with those. Okay, for the moment, yeah, fine. Exception for rape and incest.

So you agree that the other 99% should be illegal. Let's put the emphasis there. But since the question is about the Republican Party, should it moderate its views? So let's think it through like this. Ultimately, this is still the life and death question. If that is a human being in the womb, should the human being be punished?

And if it's ultimately God who gives life and he gave life because not every sexual act is going to result in a pregnancy, if he gave life, do we have the power to take it? And what of the testimony of the children who were conceived in rape or incest? Someone like James Robison who was conceived in rape and is one of the finest Christian leaders I know on the planet and a dear, dear friend. Or Jerry Hill, the wife of late evangelist Steve Hill, one of the most devoted lovers of Jesus, women following the Lord.

You'd be amazed by Jerry's life and testimony. She was conceived in rape. Those lives would not have existed based on the logic I gave you about the best thing to do is abort. And what of the women who have even called this show, it's just a tiny cross sampling, who said, I was raped and I want you to know the abortion never took away the pain. I want you to know the abortion didn't solve the problem or those who did give birth and thought it was the greatest thing they did. So I'm listening to the women. I'm not listening to me as a man here.

I'm listening to the women and to the children who were born. So that ultimately is the issue. You say, but look at what happened in the last elections. I mean, we got trounced over that. Well, young people did come out and young people voted very heavily Democrat and one reason was pro-life issues.

That is true. At the same time, states like Florida where Governor DeSantis won overwhelmingly and other states with strong pro-life laws got very good results with their votes as well. So it's a mixed bag when in terms of how people voted when it came to abortion. So this colleague of mine voted against exceptions for rape incest, but then ultimately the party put forth a bill that said, OK, our bill is going to allow exceptions for rape and incest and everything else. It's going to be there'll be no good reason for abortion, etc. So now the question was, do you vote for it and eliminate the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of abortions taking place? By the way, it's been estimated since Roe v. Wade was overturned that at least 30,000 babies lives have been saved. So do you do you vote?

No, I've got to stay on my principle and I cannot vote for this if there are exceptions for rape and incest, in which case all the other abortions. Hey, friends, this is Dr. Michael Brown. I want to invite you to join our support team.

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No. Casey, how can we refrain from worship that is driven purely by emotion, but still be sensitive to emotion as it is a natural element of personal and corporate worship? I don't worry about being driven by emotion because I'm focused on what I'm singing and who I'm singing to. In other words, the only emotion I'm going to be carried by is my own emotion in response to the truth. I'm not worried I was going to work things up or not going to work me up because if the words don't have content, meaning, substance, if the Spirit's not at work, I'm going to feel pretty dull.

So what I'm saying is don't get uptight about what I'm going to work up. Focus on who you're worshiping, who you're singing to, what the words are saying, and then let your emotions go as they go, right? Jump, dance, shout, weep, fall on your face, be silent, just respond accordingly to the truth and to the moving of the Spirit. Let's see, Nathaniel, hey Dr. Brown, I recently finished an evangelism disciple class at a particular seminary where I was told that evangelism is a universal command for every individual Christian and to not evangelize would be disobedience to Christ. However, I can't seem to find a very convincing biblical case for that view. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks. Every Christian should be in harmony with God and therefore every Christian should have a heart for the salvation of the lost, but not every Christian is going to be a solider on the same level. So as long as we are participating in the Great Commission on some level then we are working with God, but there can be pressure put on everyone that you must win souls as opposed to we should be witnesses for Jesus. All of us should be witnesses for Jesus in one way or another and then that should take care of itself in terms of how these things work out in our lives.

And I would say if we're knowingly saying, no Lord, I'm not going to share my test but now we're in disobedience, right? If we say, Lord, I just don't know how or I'm shy or I'm shut in, what do I do? Well, you pray. You pray for the lost to be saved. You can donate.

You can do other things. So we should all be participating on some level. But yeah, I agree that if you want chapter and verse you're not going to find a verse that every Christian should be an active evangelist. But we should all have God's heart for the lost and then it works out whichever way it does in terms of what our involvement looks like. Caleb, in regards to Calvinism, if God knows everything and creates people, doesn't he know before he creates them that they'll deny him and go to hell?

Yes, so knowing what someone will freely choose to do versus predestining them to do it would be the difference. Yes, so when God created the universe, since he inhabits eternity, he could see the end as well as the beginning and therefore he knew exactly where every human being he created would end up. But if we ended up there ultimately by our choice, in other words, he chose to give us a choice.

If we ultimately end up there by our choice, well then so be it. You say, but why would he create a world knowing that that many or most would perish? Because in his wisdom he knew that the end result would be worth it. In his wisdom, he knew that he would accomplish his goals of having a people with him forever who freely chose to receive his grace and be part of his family. And he would also be glorified as God, glorified as God in his judging those who chose to be wicked. Carrie, was Simon the Magician saved or a false convert? Now there's a multi-multi paragraph question and I can't answer it. We don't know based on Acts chapter 8. We don't know. It seems that he became a believer.

Maybe he was very superficial and immature and therefore when he wanted, I want to pay for this gift so when I lay hands on people, they'll receive the Spirit. So Peter rebukes him but he isn't down in the hell. He rebukes him and calls him to repent. So either he recognized that he was a new convert but very very much living like he was in the past and Peter said, you better wake up boy or you're not gonna make it or he had not yet been converted and Peter was calling him to repent. But you could make a case that he was a new convert and that he sinned grievously and it reflected a deep area in his life that was unyielded to the Lord and Peter gave him a very strong warning.

Jorge, hi Dr. Brown. Big fan of your work. I would like to know what is the main reason why aren't you Catholic or the main objection you have against the Catholic faith. God bless you. So all of you that are long time listeners of the line of fire, readers of my books or articles, you know I'm not a Catholic basher and I have colleagues that I work with that are Catholic believers but the first and simple reason is I got saved in an Italian Pentecostal church. That's where I met the Lord. That's where I put down my roots and almost all the older people in the church had come out of Catholicism so they were former Catholics. Then as I began working in Catholic countries like Italy, all the converts I met had come out of Catholicism and didn't really know the Lord as Catholics and didn't really come to know him until they were born from above.

So that's where everything started. Then because I based everything on scripture, so I don't accept rabbinic tradition where it violates scripture. I don't accept rabbinic authority when it violates scripture because the word is the ultimate dividing line. Well in the same way where I see Catholic tradition contradicting scripture or adding things to scripture which to me change some essentials or make unnecessary additions and things like that, because of that I'm not going to be Catholic. So as I see that Catholic tradition violates scripture and that authority is given to the Catholic church just as to rabbinic Jews that I don't find in harmony with scripture, those would be main reasons. Now of course there's specific doctrines, the veneration of Mary and the office of the pope and things like that and mass etc.

that I differ with. Jonathan, can you please explain Matthew 5 19 is that saying if we break God's commandments we will not be allowed to enter in and called least by those inside the kingdom. What's your take on it Dr. Brown? P.S. you rock and bless God for you.

Thank you. Okay so Matthew 5 17 through 20 Jesus says he didn't come to abolish the law of the prophets. So it's not just speaking about Torah but the whole of the Old Testament doesn't come to abolish but to fulfill and when he says anyone who breaks the least of these commandments will be considered least in the kingdom, some would say well you're still in the kingdom but you are on the lower plane, lower level. I understand these commandments to be what Jesus now teaches thereafter in the rest of the Sermon on the Mount. He's saying let me show you how to live out Torah, let me show you what it means to fulfill Torah. I'm going to show you what it means. I'm going to show you a higher path and that's what he's talking about as opposed to saying if you don't build a parapet on the roof of your house or something like that that you're least in the kingdom of heaven or if you don't keep the explicit laws of the woman's monthly cycle you're least in the kingdom of heaven.

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Okay let me answer a few a few more Facebook questions and I'm going to shoot over to Twitter. Let's see CJ could you please address the practice in many deliverance ministries of quote breaking generational curses and quote renouncing soul ties. There are a lot of goofy practices happening in charismatic churches that I don't see a New Testament precedent for. Yeah on the flip side there are a ton of things that are in the New Testament that are not being practiced in non-charismatic churches. So it's an interesting thing some are doing some stuff not in the New Testament and others are leaving stuff out that is in the New Testament. So let's to me the whole reason that I cannot be a cessationist and say that divine healing shouldn't be a normal thing today or speaking in tongues or prophecy should not be a normal thing is not just my experience it's primarily the word is too clear on it.

But fair enough where do we get these ideas from? Well the question of generational curses does not come up explicitly in the New Testament but what's the Old Testament principle that the sins of the fathers who visited on the third and fourth the subsequent generations of the third and fourth generation of those who hate the Lord right? You say okay well I'm born again the moment I'm saved that puts an end to that.

I could absolutely accept that. In other words I could actually accept that the moment you break that cycle of those who hate him and that you love him through the blood of Jesus everything ceases. Is the New Testament does the New Testament explicitly address that? No it doesn't explicitly address it so we have to look at the principle and I do not as a habit break generational curses if I lead someone to the Lord. I know some ministries do that and they're powerful and God uses them but here's here's my perspective.

If I see a pattern of destructive negative things happening that have happened in to the guy's parents, the guy's grandparents, great grandparents, like cycles of generations where the same calamities seem to befall them then I would say something's going on here. Let's break this in Jesus name. As for renouncing soul ties that is just part of repentance. In other words if you say okay you're a young woman you've been in a sinful relationship with someone you're not married to now you're getting born again and you say okay I guess I shouldn't talk to that person so much.

No you got to break that. You have to renounce it. Part of your repentance is to say no to these things that are sinful and destructive. So that concept is to me just part of repentance. But here's the thing let's not make doctrines are the things that are not explicit in scripture. Tony I've heard that the tribulation period can only start on the first year of the new Shemitah cycle. If the tribulation does not start then it can't start until the first year of the next Shemitah cycle.

Could I please have your thoughts on this? Zero support for it support for it in the bible. Don't even think twice about it. That's my answer.

Michael your name is Michael Brown what do you know? Can a born again believer in Jesus Christ turn away from Christ and end up in hell? I believe they can. If you just search our app or search sdrbrown.org for once saved always saved, eternal security, you get my views on that. But it is a person willfully turning away. If you want to serve the Lord he has promised to keep us till the end and nothing can snatch you out of his hand.

Nothing can separate you from him but he will not force you to stay in his house. All right Stuart this is over on twitter. Is it true that the tribes of the world who have never heard of Jesus will perish in their sins and go straight to hell or do they get a second chance based on their calling out to God or on their morality?

Many thanks and God bless Stuart. Number one it's not a second chance. I don't see anything in scripture where anybody gets a second chance after death. So the way you phrased it let's let's get rid of second chance and ask based on their calling out to a God or on their morality. So as I understand scripture God judges us based on the light that we have. Now remember this is not a God who set up some rules and now he's locked in and has to abide by them like oh man I wish I hadn't set it up that that people go to hell based on that I wish I could be nice and let everybody in. No we're talking about eternal God almighty creator of all things that's who we're talking about okay and and the most compassionate being billions of times beyond what we could imagine in terms of compassion the one who sent his son to die for us. So he's not gonna like don't soak that you're like in jeopardy oh you lost because you didn't put your answer in the form of a question God's like oh yeah almost prayed the right prayer but you left the word out to hell with you.

That's not who he now that's not who he is. So he will judge everyone based on the light that they have and he will judge fairly and rightly. Did someone respond to the revelation of God in nature and and look to him? Does that mean that he will then make sure a missionary gets to them? Will he reveal himself in some other way that will then connect them to the gospel? If it's just based on morality alone we all fall short but Paul does say that there are Gentiles who keep the moral law of God in Romans 2 and because it's been written on their conscience. So I simply say and it's not a cop-out God will judge all by the light they have and will judge with an absolute combination of perfect justice and perfect love.

That is who he is and that is what he will do. However since we know the propensity of the human race and we know the lostness of the human race we by all means want to get to everyone we can with the good news of Jesus. This is from William with a detailed chart. Do you believe the covenant of Daniel 9 27 should be seen within the context of the covenant and mercy of Daniel 9 4? Daniel 9 4 is a quote from Moses in Deuteronomy 7 in reference to the oath Yahweh will swear shavah with Abraham in Genesis 22 the oath was etc. Okay so this is a lengthy question. No I don't see it like that. Now maybe there are some word plays that's possible that's possible but no I don't see this is related to oath but simply is related to seven. Let's see Oma Jayagbi.

Good morning sir I'm running from Nigeria. A brother in my church sent this question that was asked by a Muslim correct me when Jesus Christ died and buried in the grave who is controlling heaven and earth? The heavenly father as he always did. So our God is complex in his unity at one in the same time enthroned in heaven. So the eternal father fills the universe and sits enthroned in heaven. His son comes down and manifests the father to us and dies for our sins and the spirit works invisibly. So a Muslim should understand our belief in the trinity God's triunity.

P. Udrowaz. Can you comment on how to resolve the apparent contradiction between Jesus identifying Aviatar as high priest in Mark 2 26 and 1 Samuel 21 calling him Achimelech. Well it's not calling him Achimelech it's two different people. It's father son and there are many many different explanations. The Greek in the days of Aviatar was actually mean and some a simple argument is that he was the better known figure and therefore since it's in this general time period he is mentioned. There are other more in-depth arguments but that is the simplest to me.

That it's not a Greek construction saying it had to be during his exact years while he was the priest but during his lifetime during and in that time he did serve as priest. Forgotten Gen X sir. Have you read Ali Bonner's book The Myth of Pelagianism? If so what are your thoughts comments? Haven't read it don't know anything about it. Sorry.

A. Kirk. Do you believe Babylon the Great in Revelation is a one world system or a literal city and why if it is a system can you explain Revelation 18 17 through 19. I believe it is a system. I mean remember the language of Revelation is full of symbolism is full of imagery and just like I don't expect a beast with seven hordes and seven heads and ten horns coming out of a bottomless pit. I believe that represents a demonic world ruler. I mean it's possible to happen but I'm not expecting that right.

I'd like to look like some horror movie or some sci-fi movie. So even just a detailed description of a city and mourning over city and all of that that can all be symbolic if it does speak of a city it is a city that is the house the throne of that of that system. But to me it speaks more of a system. A. Rod Goeth. Thoughts on the work of Brad H Young. Titles like Jesus the Jewish Theologian and the parables Jewish tradition and Christian interpretation. Yes great great stuff. Brad one of the leading Christian scholars and Jewish background to the New Testament etc.

So like anything you you study it you work it through. But yeah but it's great stuff excellent. Ryan I'd like to hear you talk about Christian nationalism what it means to you if possible I'd like to understand a little more about it very much appreciate your thoughts go to narancristiannationalism.com. N-A-R and christiannationalism.com. Narancristiannationalism.com you'll find a clear statement of where I stand what I believe. N-A-R narancristianationalism.com. If you want an in-depth dive get my book The Political Seduction of the Church and I get it into it in great length. Hey thanks for praying for me as this day goes on as I minister to these YWAM leaders here in Kona. May the blessing and the smile of God be with you back with you tomorrow. Another program powered by the Truth Network.