What Is the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation)

The NAR the new apostolic Reformation.

What is it is it of God/the devil stage for the line of fire, your host, activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Thanks much for joining us on the line of fire today. I hope to have a lively print of interesting and important broadcast number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884. I will take some calls about, you know I'm not going to take election related calls today and I want to focus in on some other issues of importance to the body. Now a few things in a preliminary way in the medical 866-34-TRUTH 87884 if you still have concerns about the issue I did with Pastor Bill Johnson a couple of weeks ago getting a lot of attention online lot of views on the YouTube chalice is already going to be reposted on YouTube. You have been able to call you the times we open the phone spell means give me a call. I'm not here to to bark at Scheuer or get angry with you.

You may have valid concerns or questions, please give me a call if you have concerns with what is called the NAR the new apostolic Reformation Dr. Peter Wegner just want to be with the Lord a few days ago and some of his staunch critics call him a false prophet false apostle. Others look at him as a major charismatic leader on pioneer others have a somewhat mixed mindset viewpoint. If you have issues. We put this online reposted this so we've gotten this word out to lots and lots of people I like to hear from you today. I understand that people working have jobs but we have our phone lines flooded with calls all the time, which means that that there are folks that can cough during this time, so if you have concerns. If you have questions, please give me a call and lastly one more time we did this over an hour and 1/2. Last week, I will give you one more opportunity.

This is not the time for doctrinal clarity. Hey, could you explain what the Scripture means in this charismatic issue, but if you have questions and concerns about things that you have heard about regarding the charismatic movement regarding revival movements and things like that please give me a call. It is my goal to help clarify based on Scripture and scriptural principles right yes I myself would be characterized charismatic Pentecostal in that I believe that speaking in tongues, prophecy, healing, miracles, or for today and that God is doing these things around the world, but he's not a celestial bellboy. We don't just stop our fingers and manufacture a miracle. We are servants of the Lord. He is the sovereign God who rules and reigns, but he is determined to glorify Jesus. Through these acts of compassion and power and around the world.

The vast majority of people coming to faith around the world for many years now have come through God's power in conjunction with the gospel through healing, deliverance, just as in the book of acts, just as the ministry of Jesus is not separate from the word is is an confirmation of the word in and in demonstration of the resurrection of Jesus, and with that with the massive growth of the charismatic Pentecostal movement worldwide. There are abuses, there are charlatans there are problems and is well within the movement of such address those for decades, including one whole book.

Whatever happened to the power of God, which came out in 1991. The subtitle being is the charismatic church slain in the spirit down for the count. Plus many many messages and parts of other books devoted to this.

I've also been in one of the most significant revivals of the 20 century the browser revival served as a leader there for four years and eyewitnesses more than 2000 meetings over that period of time. I can tell you firsthand what God did it say love is a phoneme of the Holy Spirit. Let's talk about this clarify this. If God is moving want to get behind it. If it's calibrated the flesh resisted error on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown back to light a fire, 8784 even now during the break during the short two minute break.

Ivan voted invited folks on Twitter raising issues about certain spiritual things, charismatic issues, etc. I have I have I have asked I've asked function: you got a concern: I've also challenge those that hide behind the cloak of anonymity on online and post blatant falsehoods blatant falsehoods I may want one website. It's an argument mention it on online because I only wanted on the radio and only want to draw any attention to it, but it lastly as it is a new apostolic Reformation apostles like what explain one of my kind to be an apostle went when have I been. It worked with Dr. Peter Wegner side-by-side in and part of his organization. It is even though people talking about and I'm in the post things that are blatantly false just false information member reading one paragraph online where I think five of the six sentences 70 with me were simply false. Not a matter of interpretation but is false. But if I knew the person was a deal with them when they hide behind the cloak of anonymity.

Hey ticket you may be it. You may be excommunicated from a local church in bad standing. You may been kicked out of a Bible college in bad standing in a ghetto website so it's only right and fair that we know who the person is you may be 18 years old with no experience in ministry whatsoever so it's it's important that we who were dealing with. Jesus says that that those who have the truth come into the light, that their deeds may be made manifest, so I'm going the secrets I've got I've got no skeletons in the closet. If I if I made a mistake.

The whole world knows about it, old man, sorry I missed. I say some of the radio the other. Ditto with their massacre in Nice, France X he said nice and I said I said I did. I pronounce it nicely got to be Me If I Ever Blunder the Whole World to Know about and That Respects Sorry of Course This Is the Minor Example There, but by by All Means, If You Have Issues.

If You Have Concerns, You May Have Valid Issues You May Have Valid Concerns or You May Have Concerns Based on Misinformation and Falsehood. Let Us Sort Things out. And Twitter Is Not the Place to Do It. Okay Twitter Only Have a 23,000 Followers but Facebook We Have Almost 450,000 and Every Day Stuff Pours into End like 25,000 on YouTube and Elsewhere, and Every Day Email Support Ansell My Staff Can Even Keep up with It Little Me. I'm Not Going to Get into a Four Hour Twitter Debate Hundred 40 Characters at a Time with Someone I Don't Even Know That That Was a Hit to What I Can't Do This. Would You Please Drop Me for the Conversational's and 30 More Tweets until Finally I Block Them Simply Because That's That's Disrespectful and It It's It's Destructive Rather Than Constructive, but Let Me Just Put a Couple Things out and Then I'm Going to Go to Your Phone Calls.

All Right Somebody Posted This Earlier Today and Again I Don't See Lots of of of Facebook Comments I Don't See the Vast Vast Majority of Them but I Happen to See This One from Earlier Today. Old Elitist Fineness. Let's See Okay Hang on Notes That It Typical Ferret Documents. A Typical Pharisee Apologist Know This Because I'm Jewish That's That's Not It Is Looking for a More Recent One Here yet Someone Blasted Me That I Can Follow Me Any Longer. I Was Part of the Browser Revival, Which Was Another Experience-based Fad. What's Hundred Sniffles, 100% False. This Was a True Glorious Outpouring Church Historian Said It's the Longest Lasting Local Church Revival and in American History. Hundreds of Thousands of People Dramatically Touched, Saved, Delivered, and Many of Them Transformed to This Day. 20 Years Later We Have Posted a Bit on the Mission Field.

Now Touch the Republican on the Mission Field Serving God Preaching Jesus Laying Their Lives of Others for 15 Years, You Have Quit Exhibits One Service and so You Two Could Well As His Experience Base.

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Me and NAR Apostle Actually or Are Not Apostle That's Cute Which Is Mostly I'm on Apostle Claim to Be an Apostle and Another Part of the Quote New Apostolic Reformation Here. I Listened Your Interview Bill Johnson of Bethel You're Woefully Ignorant There Pictures of Jenna Others from Bethel Graves Sucking Soaking so Polite You See That's Extraordinary to See Bill Johnson Light Bill Repudiated the Practice and As Executive Pastor Chris Valentin Repudiated the Practice and Whether Some People Never Deny That Some People May Have Done It, but Repudiated and It's Someone There, Wired That to Me Is Really Unfortunate Say I Saw a Picture of His Wife Sitting on CS Lewis's Gravesite. What Was She Doing Was She Praying God Raise up CS Lewis's Today Which She Sang God Use CS Lewis Use Me with the Same Gal but If You Gave Him Give Me Five Probability That the God Decide How He Answers That.

Was She Trying to Suck up the Anointing from His Grave, If so, That's Ridiculous.

That's Erroneous That Stupid That's Misguided, but If so, Bill Johnson Is Publicly Saying We Repudiate the Even of His Wife Did It and I've No Idea What That the People Some of These Pictures, People Laying out in a Grave Electronic.

Some People Have Done It.

That's Why Bill Johnson Repudiated. That's Why Chris Mallory. But Anyway There Pictures or Is There the Glory Clouds of Gold Glitter to Do People into Experience What If Somebody Was Manufacturing Something Is Having His Gold Dust in Front of the Event to Give an Appearance yet That's Horrific. If That Actually Happened at Bethel. I Denounce It and I Did Contact Bill and Chris Today and Say What Happened. I Need a Statement from You Guys. What Happened Okay but If the Eye I Saw a Video One Time and so the People Starts Screaming at Shauna Because It Looks like There's a Visible Cloud and in the Meeting with Perfectly Fine with Me at Scott Scriptural Precedent, but the Clip I Saw Bill Said Don't Pay Attention to This Focus on the Lord. Let's Keep Worshiping. So What's Wrong with That. Then I Heard That You As Well As Bill, Were Caught up in Other Experience Offenses Is the Brownsville Revival That Was There As Well As Pensacola and Ontario Theme. Toronto Was Never in Toronto Myself but Brown's Revolver That Was Pensacola Present Experiential Fancy Is People Speaking Out Of Ignorance. That's What Troubles Me, Not Honest Questions and If There Are Abuses, Let's Address Them. If There Are Abuses, Let's Address Them and Let Me Use My Platform of National Radio Elsewhere to Address Them with You.

Fair Enough and It and If If It's a False Criticism.

This Address Satellite Phone Lines Are Jammed, Which Is Wonderful Medical Your Phone Calls Momentarily.

Let Us Give an Example of Something a JJ Plate Number One. This Is from the Teaching of Bill Johnson Click Number One. Today I Have Begotten You. The Second Song You My Beloved Son, Today I Have Begotten Asked 13 Tells Us That the Phrase from the Father. Today I Have Begotten You Is in Reference to the Resurrection.

So He Was Born through Mary the Virgin, and Then He Was Born Again, and Resurrection.

Okay, Now When Bill Says That Does He Mean and I've Seen Whole Websites and and YouTube Clips Just Based on Those Words, Bill Johnson Holds to the Erroneous Teaching of EW Kenyon That in Some Order. Faith Teaches That Jesus Suffered in Hell and Died in Hell and Was Demonized and Was Raised up As a Glorified Man. That's What It Means Is Born Again, I Utterly Categorically Reject That Teaching As False and Destructive and Heretical. Okay, I've No Place for That.

No Tolerance for That. I Don't Accept Any Level.

Anyone That Says That Jesus Became Demonized in Hell and Actually Died in a Literal Way and Then Was Raised up As a Glorified Man That Is Heretical and I Categorically Rejected. Without Qualification, but I Have No Clue That That's What Bill Believes That If That's the Case, Then Please Get Me That Clip Is Based on That Clip.

All Bill Is Saying Is That That According to the New Testament Jesus Was Declared to Be the Son of God. He Was the Son of God before He Came to the World. Yes, He Was Declared to Be the Son of God As Birth.

Luke 135 That That Holy Thing to Be One of You Will Be Called the Son of God, and He Was Declared to Be the Son of God with His Resurrection.

This Day I Have Given You Birth. Psalm Two Is Applied to the Resurrection, and All Those Doing School That You Say Will.

He Explains the Rest of the Mat Will Then Tell Me the Rest of the Message Because I Clip Is Online. Saying That, Based on That Bill Johnson Held to the CW Kenyon Teaching If He Did I Differ with It and I Repudiated without Hesitation, but I Have No Evidence That He Did.

All I Know Is That That Clip Is Used, to Demonstrate Something, Give Me More Context If He Teaches It.

There's Got to Be Clip Piece Is Messages Are out There.

I'm Not Denying It. After the Sinking That Is All He Did Was It.

Is This Interesting Asked 13 Applies Psalm to This Day Have Begotten You. To the Resurrection. So Jesus Was Born Again through the Resurrection, Based on First Born Again through It. What Are the Main Got a Get Clarification. If You Haven't, Please Give Phone Calls Next Her, and It's the Line of Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 866-34-TRUTH Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown Too Much with Contemporary Charismatic and AR New Apostolic Reformation. Good Thing Bad Thing from above, from Man from below.

Take Your Calls or Concerns You May Have a Valid Concern That I'll Agree with You May Have a Concern I Feel Is Misguided That I'll Do My Best to Correct You May Raise a Question That on Blueblood. Let's Look into It. Let's Find out What's What. My Only Goal Is to Separate Fact from Fiction and Help Us to Major on the Majors Because Whether God Is Moving in in Certain Charismatic Ways. The People Claim or Not We All Agree We Got a Major on the Majors on Jesus As Lord.

In Scripture's Authority and Living Lives That Are Godly and Being Disciples and Making Disciples to These Things Enhance of the Neutral Today Distracted a Scriptural Want to Talk about Right Straight to the Phones We Start in West Bloomfield, Michigan.

Patrick, Thank You so Much for Calling the Line of Fire. Thank You Dr. Brown. Yes, Just a Regular Guy, a Christian the Four Years Old Gone through A Lot over the Years My Parents Raised Me Like Rodney Ali over to the Name and Claimant That I Left All of That and Think That Now I Am Just a Very Simple Solid Relationship with the Lord. I Love You and I Think You Are an Amazing Teacher and Amazing Scholar. I Think You Present Such a Tremendous Benefit to the Body of Christ, and I Have Just One Criticism That If I Could Share the Curious Place Criticism of Just One Brother to Another of That You Know Somebody That the Theologian I'm Not College-Educated, but Growing up in the Environment That I Did. There's Something That Is so Just off by 1�. The Way I Described It, I Was Describe It Here If Your Relationship with the Lord Is off Just by 1� Your Neck in a Know It for Years to Come.

And for Example If You Shoot a Rocket to the Moon and Their off by One.

You Do Not Know It, You Missed It so You Don't Just Out Of My Own Experience Every Time I've Heard Bill Johnson or Benny and Her All of These I'll Call Weird Things That Are Occurring That They Take Away from Christ. Focus on Self and It Is a Distraction. I Don't Have a Problem with Speaking in Tongues That Are the Problem with the Lord Doing Healing. I Don't Have Problem Charismatic Movement in General. I You Know I'm Think A Lot Alike. For Example, I Saw You Said to Just Jump in. Just Be Fair to Other Because I Think You Raise the Point Clearly and Very Humbly and and and I Appreciate It so You Constructive Criticism with Me Would Be Any Assassination Option Micro Construction Group.

Thank You Because of Your Passion for the Charismatic Movement Because of Your Love for and Just You Know Your You. You're Involved in It. My Opinion Just Again Is That It's a Blind Spot for You When You Interview People like Bill Johnson or Benny and I Know That You Mean Well I Know Your Heart Is in the Right Place, but I Think That Because You're so Close to It.

You Don't Feel A Lot about Naked Data Come Out Of This Movement Have Seen Binary to Respond Okay and Again Only Jumping into the Phone Lines Are Jammed Only Gets His Many As Possible. I Appreciate Your Point and All of Us Can Have Blind Spots, Which Is Why We Listen with Humility and and Pray about Things in Which Is Why My Wife Is Always Speaking to My Life in 100 Different Areas so Could Have a Blind Spot Sure You Can Have a Blind Spot a Reactionary One As Well Right so We All Could One Comes to to Benny Hinn Again Accepted an Invitation to Be on His Show Main Reason Was Allowed to Get the High Progressive Hyper Grace Message in Book out to His Viewing Audience Would Because I Knew A Lot Of Other Teachers on TBN and That Was That He's on Board with Would Listen to That and 40 That Broadcasted Not Air Is One Thing. Secondly, I Knew There Was Tons of Baggage Associated with Benny Hinn OF Bad Reports. I Also Had Some Folks That Got Close to Him and Said, Hey, He's Not Who You Think Is You Get to Know Us a Great. I Will Get to Know Him.

I'll Be on His TV Show and If There Are Errors Then Hopefully I Can Be of Help to Him behind the Scenes. Unfortunately, the Relationship Came about after the Show. I Did Write to Him Privately and Urge Them to Repudiate His Fundraising Techniques and Some of the People He Has on the Air so III Did Call to Account for That. And It May Have Been a Mistake to Go on the Show Because It Confused A Lot Of People so I Accept It May Been a Mistake.

Mr. Bill Johnson of Bill and I've Been in Several Similar Circles for Years and Administered Together in Different Settings I Preached at Bethel A Few Years Ago. I Have Graduate School That Served Their Church for Years.

I Will Visit a Been There Regularly and They're All about Jesus. They Love the Lord There Really Excited about the Lord Winning the Lost It's It's Never about It's Never Self Thing. I See That Fruit Consistently, but You're Still Having Bill on the Air Right. I Built a Friend Most A Lot Of Time Together but Were Friends Know Each Other and Again I Know People That Have Been in His Church and School for Years and Years and Years and They're Very Excited about What the Lord's Doing There and Very Excited about the Lord and Excited about Holiness and Purity in Winning the Lost and so on. So I Said When I Was Asked about Having Bill on His Avenue Book, I Said I'd Love to, but It Was A Lot Of Controversy around Those Ministry and As Long As He's Willing to Let Me Have People Calling with Her Criticism Is in the Race amongst Questions.

I'm Happy to Do It and Also Great.

Let's Do It, so I Just A Few Things Also Play a Couple Clips and a Couple of of Concerns That Raise Owes Erase Them and Leave the Rest Because Nobody Call We Publicized It to Hundreds of Millions of People Literally Call It Note Number Call so I Am Perfect in and Hopefully More People Calling about Today but I Still Haven't Gotten the Actual Doctrinal Teaching from Bill's Mouth That Is Heretical. If Someone Brings It up Fine. I Can Deny It All Confronted. There Is Not There.

If People Get Condemned As a Heretic Because Sometimes It's a Cloud Appears in the Meetings I Got No Scriptural Issue with That.

And I've Actually Seen It Happen Myself. Yes, with My Own Eyes and Complete Set As Were Nobody Else Was There of a Small Group of People That Doesn't Disturb in the Lease What What What It but I've Never Heard Bill Draw Attention to a Quite the Contrary. His Whole Thing Is Bringing People to God Bring People to God so by All Means Let Folks Bring up Substantial Issues and Will Address Them and Their Plaintiffs Extensive Issues with with Benny Hinn's Prophecies and with Guests on His Show That I Repudiate and Differ with in the Fundraising Etc. No Issue with It. I've Written to about It Privately Because II Did Not Have Ongoing Public Access Right so That's Where We Left It Was First Bill I Asked Critics to Call and They Didn't. I Gave Another Hour and 1/2 Last Week and They Did so Hopefully Today Will Hear from More but Patrick. I Would Say Perhaps That Your Weakness Is That You Haven't Been Saying Bill's Meetings for Period of Months to See the Community See the Fruit If I Was There. What I Did with Different Certain Things Absolutely Whatever Issues with Certain Things Absolutely Will I Take Issue with People Granting a False Prophet Heretic Absolutely. But Sir, Thank You for the Call and Let's All Continue to Grow in Jesus Our Friends. I Got a Break Coming up, but I'm Ready to Take Calls for Another 90 Minutes At Least 1/2 an Hour, but Another 90 Minutes If You Want to Get in 866-34-TRUTH All and for Everyone Who's Ever Had to Deal with the Stronghold of Food Either Dealing with Obesity Is the That Health Habits Existing Out-Of-Control Answers. I Have a Book Breaking the Stronghold of Food Lease January 3. #Copy and Type Only Throw Website the Line of Fire Dollars.

It's the Line of Fire with Your Host Activist, Author, International Speaker and Theologian Dr. Michael Brown Voice of More Cultural and Spiritual Revolution Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 66343 Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown Is the Takeover Involve Kind of Us T Jake Thought out Process Is It Potentially a Violent Type of Takeover of These Areas and How Far Does This Movement but Potentially Go. That Was David Pack Know If David Has Enough Crazy Guests on a Show That I Guess He Thinks Is Reason to Ask but the So-Called Dominion Is a Movement Were Christians Want to Take over the Society How Farcical He Goes Get a Resort to Violence He Has Is a Guest on Its Can Answer That but I Just Posted This but So-Called New Apostolic Reformation and Then Then I Want to Go to Your Calls and Thank You. I'm Looking at Some of the Topics on the Board Here. This Is What I've Been Waiting for. These Are the Cause of Wanted to Get in Terms of People Who Have Their Criticisms and Concerns.

Thank You for Calling in Much Appreciated and If I Don't Give You Each 10 Minutes to Talk a Five and a Straight It's Only Because I Did That I Get to Calls Very Quickly. I've Been in Meetings with So-Called Apostolic Leaders SSO Caucus Will Debate Whether Apostles Today Right Will Talk about That Later That the Paper Talk about but I Been in These Meetings Are Right and When When Leaders Talk about Having Influence in Society.

No One Story Meant Taking over Rather Were Saying. Why Should the Media Be so Secular Liberal. We Should Have a Presence There, and If We Have Enough Presence. We Can Turn in the Right Direction. The Schools Why Are Our Universities That Rid of Somebody Found It by Christian Leaders and Dominations for Christian Purposes. Were They so Secular Liberal Wheat We Need to Infiltrate the Schools. We Need More Godly Professors and Administrators and Politics Wise It's a Wacky and Corrupt. We Need All the Political Leaders Is Not a Matter of Taking over, No Limit, and Poser. If You Don't Follow Still Observe the Sabbath. You're Stoned to Death.

No. So It's Complete. I've Never Once Heard the Stuff That These People Are Accused of with Ionic You Never Once Heard It in Meetings with People Okay so That's One Thing When It Comes to Apostles Today and Again Will Discuss This More Later. Yes I Do Believe That There Are Possible Small I Apostles Today. Just like in the New Testament the Rich People Call the Apostles. Emissaries Who Are Not of the 12 Right Course They Do Not Have Apostolic Authority in Terms of What Paul or Peter Didn't Write Scripture but There Emissaries in the Same Way That That Barnabas Called an Apostle and in Acts. I Would Look at Hudson Taylor Is a Modern Possibly Know He Be Witnessing Himself like That, but a Weakness of What I Found in the So-Called New Apostolic Reformation As Everybody Became an Apostle Is Also Be Put on Your Business Card and I Repudiated That Spoken against That for Years. All Right, Let's Go to Joseph in Berkeley California. Thanks for Calling the Line of Fire.

Dr. Brown Paid for Doing All the Really Tremendously Appreciate and Honor What You're Doing. I Received from You A Lot. Thank You so Much. I Know That There Is Not on Time so Looking to Get Your Stuff out and Then Will Continue Okay so I Didn't Know That You Had Thing on� Guy I Wish I Call during the Kind of Guy You're Doing Now, Berkeley Critical Threading Obviously Doing Ministry Berkeley for A While and I Noticed That A Lot Of My Friends and A Lot Of People in Berkeley Would Have Come to A Lot Of Problem You Know in Their Lives Than Anything Their Understanding of God and and What I Figured It Would Always Come Back Somehow Back to You Know Bethel Something That Their Teaching and so What I Did Was I Just Went on a Kind of a Journey of Kino Figuring out Okay What What Are They Teaching You Know Because People Keep Telling about Them in an Undefeated Problem, Though, I Found to A Lot Of Study of Bill Johnson or Chris Dalton Is That There Are Old Very Many Troubling Things and I and Me I I'm I Am a Charismatic As Well and so Is Not like You Know I like Taking Effect on Charismatic and I Am Fully Charismatic on the Water so There Is A Lot Of Problems out the Endless Has a Tailored Stuff Here Simply to Minutes Take Those As an Unsolicited Phone Lines. Dan Kane Is in Line Your Calls If You Can Stay There. I Will Get You but Get Your Thoughts in Order. Give Me Your Top Three Biggest Concerns All Right File the Line of Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Get into the Minor Fire Now by Calling 866-34-TRUTH Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown This out My Entire Emphasis Is on Glorified through Our Lives, Not a Cloud, but He Can Still Appear in the Cloud of Glory. If He Chooses. We Can Discuss That Later. Right Joseph.

So Could You Give Me Your Your Top Three Concerns and You May Be Right and Every One of Them, but the Purpose Is Not to Argue Your Top Three Concerns That You've Seen Coming Out Of of Bethel Right of Bill or Chris Is Teaching.

I Remember One Would Be the Delay. People Understand the Gospel. I Guess It's Really Hard to Talk about the Thankfully in the Storm on Time but so We Have. We Had Several of His Girlfriend in the Colon and You Will Even Hooked up with Double Team That Wanted to Come to Berkeley Campus to Berkeley to Do Evangelism and so You Know We Hook up with Them You Know and and and Do Evangelism with.Looking and It Was Very Concerned Because the Way That They Would Preach the Gospel Would Be. I Mean Literally to Tell People How Awesome They Are I Mean I'm Not Even Exaggerating This.I Understand It, You Know Something yet� One Thing, the Answer to the Extent That That's Done with Just Wanting People Know How Highly God Thinks of Them or Something like That without Preaching Sin. Bill Johnson Was Clear on the Radio Saying We Have a Sinful Nature Need to Repent. When You Get Rid of That Return for It When My Friends to Start Another Day Giving a Strong Hold in This Message on TV yet.

I've I've Definitely Seen That Happen with Teams. I Don't Know If It's Directly from Bill or Chris, but I've Absolutely Seen That Kind of Thing Happening with Teams Going out and It's It's a Big Mistake.

It's Not the Gospel, and I Agree I Agree with That Concern. If If I Get Time Together with Either Bill or Chris Sit and Talk about, but I Agree with Valid Concern.Next Year.

So the Other One Would Be Made to the Root of A Lot Of Very They Do. I Know That Bill Had Said That He Does Value Scripture but II Feel like in Practice It Did Not Really There Almost II Have Also in My State.

I Explained That There Is a Consistent Not Just like a 100 but a Consistent Pattern of You Know Yes Saying That There the Value Scripture and yet It's Always in the Context of but You Know Experiencing Something Supernatural from God. It No Kind of More Important and Almost Explicitly Said and I Feel like That's Kind of the Root of A Lot Of Things That That Are Coming out and so Will You Have and Again I Think One of the Previous Caller You Thing You Know like You Haven't Really Been with Them or You Don't Know the Culture, but I Kinda Have You Not Generally Close.

A Lot Of People A Lot Of People from Berkeley Got Running Constantly. I Know Many People in and in Berkeley. I Know Many of You Have Gone to the Berkeley Supernatural School Ministry and Am Very Involved in That regarding What I Have Seen in That Culture You Know Really Is Actually a Very Low View of the Scripture Any Very High View of the Unit, Thus Saith the Lord, You Know That Feeling That Signs and Wonders Again with All Things I Love and Height. I Got Emphasis Right at Every Word of God Is Our Foundation Is Anchor and These Are the Things That Happen Are Confirmation of the Word. For Example, the Fact That We That We Have Intimate Relationship with God and Fellowship with the Holy Spirit Is in Harmony with What the Word Teaches That Know Again What When I Was There and I Was Just Turned Loose to Preach and I Preached on Take up Our Cross and the Call to Suffer. I Preached on the Fire of God's Purity and Holiness.]

I Spy Spoke against Superficial Manifestations of Things and in School I Brought a Message on on the Importance of Israel of Engine Was Warmly Welcomed and Received in Doing It. I the Folks That I Know the Graduated from Our School Is Spent Time There Never Came Away with the Concern Your Sharing but It Could Be Valid. I Mean It. It Began on, under, I'm Not in the Midst of It Enough to Know but If It's True, That's a Serious Concern. Look, I Have a Flipside Concern for Secessionists That Downplay Areas Entirely.

I Have a Hard Time and I Book Authentic Fire on the God to Be Experienced, and I Quote the Bible Abundantly in It. But Then I Quote Great Calvinist Leaders of the past Reformed Leaders of the past Talk about Their Intimacy with God in Their Experience with God.

So It's It's Not Either/or, but to the Extent That That Anything Experiential Takes Precedence over the Word of Course That's an Error and It's a Pathway for Deception and There Was One Movement. I Was Not Part of It Directly, but When I Would Hear Their Leaders Speak There Was a Deprecating of Scripture or One of My Major Issues with with Todd Bentley's Ministry Was Is No Calling out in Our Angelic Revelations and Things like That Are Not Using Scripture That the Coenzymes Are Heard and That They Greatly Concern Me Again When I Heard Bill. He's Been Teaching the Word What I've Read Stuff It's It's Always Starting the Scripture Going from There. But If the Pendulum Swung Because of the Outpouring You're Experiencing. That Is a Danger That Should Be Addressed Can Give Me One More.

If You Have One More As These of These Are Pretty Major Ones.

I Concur with You yet. I Think That You Know What Bill Carr Visited Main Ministry in a Debate of Unifying the Wonders I Got the Generation Can Walk in Kind Wonder and One Thing That I Think Kind of Altogether with the Fingers That the Basis of His Theology and Doctrine of Signs and Wonders. I Believe You Know I've Seen You All, and That He Said That One Thing That Janovic X-Rays Knowing That God Cannot Give What He Does Not Have Right so God Can Give to the Know and so That's Kind of One of the Basic Base Fundamental Doctrines That He Had God Cannot Give What He Does Not Have an and He Also Setting a Positive Which Is Dr. Only Gave What He Does Have and so Make the Argument Thing That Noted It Can Come from God.

Like I Literally Cannot Do It and I Think You'd Follow That Only Because You Know I Got Part of.

Also That the Hyper Great Tendency That That They May Have, but That Your Destiny and Limited to Just Jump in Only Only Out Of Respect for for Other Other Callers Right There. It Let Me Just Say This Again You're Quoting Him and Saying That and That's It's an Accurate Quote Okay Yeah of Course It's an Overstatement.

And of Course God Does Smite in the Bible, He despite with Sickness and Disease and in the Book of Revelation When the Wrath of God Is Poured out Include Sickness and Disease on the Flip Side, I Fully Affirm the Point He's Making, Which Is That the Nature of God Is Not to Make a Sick but to Heal Us That When Jesus Touch People. He Did Make Them Sick, He Healed Them.

The God Anointed Jesus of Nazareth of the Holy Spirit, How He Went about Doing Good and Healing All Who Were Oppressed by the Devil. I Challenge Anyone to Go through My 465 Page Book, Israel's Divine Healer. The Hundred 65,000 Words of Annotation and and and Find Fault with This Fundamental Theology That God's Desire for His Obedient Children Is Is Healing and That in the Bible. Sickness Is Either Associated a Suffragist in the Fall. If It's Got a Specific Cause It's Either Send or Divine Curse. A Judgment of Chastisement or Satan and Demons That It's Never a Loving Gift from God.

So I Affirm the Point He's Making As Far As the Nature of God, the Way Saying It Obviously Could Be Terror. Hey Listen Joseph, I Love to Talk You More. I Want to Be Fairly Close, but These Are All Valid Issues That I Want People to Know What I Believe Where I Stand and Let's Put These on the Table for for Further Prayerful Discussion and to the Extent That I Can Follow up with Concern to Some with People or or Seal Care. These Concerns Valid from the inside Is the Status You Can't Blame a Large Movement for Everything People Do Associated with but If You See a Large Percentage of People Associated with Will Be Doing It, Then You Can Blame the Movement. So in Other Words, I Got Lots of Listeners by God's Grace and Maybe Some Listeners Do Crazy Things in the Cell Yeah Listen to Mike Brown.

I Go to Dr. Brown's Website. Okay, We Can't Blame You for That.

However, If This Was a Tendency to Use on a Large Level for People Graduated from School or This to My Shoulder on the Website Then by All Means I'm Responsible.

So I Don't Downplay a Word You Said. I Think These Are Valid Questions and Issues and These Are the Exact Kind of Calls I Was Waiting for. Thank You Sir for Weighing and Much Appreciated. All Right, R. 86634 Let's Go to Ryan in Nashville, Tennessee. Welcome to the Line of Fire� I Don't Doing Well Thank You I Got a Question concerning the Commission Service at Potbelly at That Number. Illogically, but There Rick Joyner Are Not Xian Allowed Leaders in the Nobility Identify with That Are Not Leader New Apostolic Reformation. They All Got up There and Gave Properties Working God about How Great Todd Was How Great You Would Not Be at Was Not Exploding.

Take Often.

We Know That Was All All Happened Later That He Was Getting Drunk. He Was Having Multiple Affairs.

He Ran Away like It Not Your Judgment Understand Something or Go out but Was That Late False Prophet God Really Give My Word or with a Line When They Got up There Long. They Were Absolutely Wrong. I Was Embarrassed by Ryan and I'm Getting Continue Commenting and Says Break. I'm on Record As Semi-Authentic Fire Book Is Saying That That Was Divine Chastisement and Judgment on on the Charismatic Movement of America Were Actually Senior Leaders to Be Involved in Something That Was That. I Was Embarrassed My Wife Nancy Insisted I Sit down and Watch the Whole Thing I Could Watch It. I Was so Embarrassed. Got a Watch the Whole Thing Thought, nor That Her Plan by the Expo Line of Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown of Your Voice and More Cultural and Spiritual Revolution. Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown on the Line of Fire Work Were Talking about New Apostolic Reformation Were Talking about past Bill Johnson Bethel Trauma Charismatic Issues Tried to Talk to Concerns, Questions People Have Dr. Peter Wegner, Probably the Founder Vote Would Critics or Friends Call the New Apostolic Reformation.

I Recently Went to Be with the Lord and Probably Some History.

Critics Say He's Not with the Lord at All and Some of His His Greatest Friend Sees the Greatest Man of God They've Known so Were Talking to Be Constructive Here. 866-34-TRUTH Also Back to Ryan in in Nashville Are Right I Don't I Don't Know Details of Everything That Happened in Todd's Life during What Was Called the Lakeland Outpouring but Certainly Has Been Revealed That He Was Getting Drunk.

It Appears That He Was in Adultery. Towards the End of It, Certainly Soon after, and of Course to Divorce His Wife Is Married to Someone Else. Rick Joyner Is a Friend of Mine and and Rick Worked with Todd's Restoration Believes God Is Using Todd Race to Backup among Public Record of Is Different with Rick on That We Set Face-To-Face and Talked about It and He Knows My Public Stance That I Don't Believe Todd Was Rightly Restored and That the Right Path Was to Step Away from from That Relationship He Was in and to Seek Reconciliation with His with His Wife and Children. I Wish Them Well III Hope for Mercy.

That's a Small Stance, but Ryan during the Lakeland Outpouring. I Was Never There and I Heard Reports of the Holy Spirit Moving Wonderfully and Worshiping People Really Being Touched and That I Had Grave Concerns Because of the Lack of Preaching of the Word and the Central Focus on One Person and Some Abusive Practices. So When That Meeting Happened and Most of the People on a Platform Are People That I That I Know in Some Good Friends. When I Heard That They Were There, Too, Lay Hands on Todd and I've I've Sarcastically Called It the Coronation Service Basically Set Him Apart As I Know That the Main Leader in One of My Friends Said No That the Todd Must Increase That He Must Decrease. I Honestly Felt like I Was Watching People I Loved Running around Public in Their Underwear. I Was so Embarrassed I Could Watch and I Thought I How It Happened, How People Were so Wrong on Something That Was so Obviously off I Can Answer That.

I Can Only Say That to Me. I Felt like I Was Bringing Public Chastisement to the Charismatic Movement of Which of Which Are Part for Lack of Discernment and Gullibility That Saw Perla Get Out Of My Coursework for the Beat That Much of the Current Cart, but If They Were Claiming to Be Profit Possible from God and That Was in Fact a False Prophecy.

Why Should We Not Believe They Are Deep False Prophets Today Okay by Planning Their Their Word. Why Would Their Work by Sleepily� Today It Got on No Cable TV and Also Prospects the Whole World.

Yeah That's about Right. That's a Valid Concern Syllable Question Yeah but I'm Good. I'm Glad We Got to Do Silly Things to Do, so I Want to Be on Record Claiming Clearly for Those That Don't Know Where I Stand but Putting Short and Short Ryan. As I Understand Scripture a False Prophet Is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, a False Teacher Is a Heretic, Leading Others to Help a False Prophet Is Not Someone Who Loves the Lord and Prophesies Falsely Member Not under the Old Testament Where People Were Dependent on the Profit to Be the Nation and in a Wrong Word Because She Stoned. Okay, so I I Would Say That If Someone Prophesies Falsely. Today They Are Corrected for. They Can Be a Believer Who Loves the Lord, but They Make a Mistake.

They Speak in the Flesh. They Confuse the Voice the Spirit for Their Own Thoughts and in the They Speak Falsely I Will Not Brand Them a False Prophet or False Teacher Based on New Testament Terminology Know That That These People Are Wolves in Sheep's Clothing and Her Servants of Satan. I Will Say This If I Said Something Publicly Right That I Got up on the Radio and Sagrada Shown Me That the Ted Cruz Is Actually to Be Our Next President. That Is, I Can Be Hilary Donald Trump and It Didn't Happen That Would Not Make Me a False Prophet That Would Mean I Prophesies Falsely but You Better Believe That I Would Need to Publicly Apologize That I Would Need Accountability to Speak into My Life to Help Me to See Where I Made the Error and Then If I Ever Did Claim to Speak Prophetically. Again, I Would Expect People to Be Very Skeptical That Would Be a Natural Fruit of It. If It Were a Prayer Meeting Together You Say Dr. Brown I Really Sense the Lord Is Saying This and I Said You Know Ryan I Don't Sense That All Rivets Keep Praying to Bring Your False Prophet Is Wrong or Say Mandarin or NS There's a Way to Submit Things Which Is in Humility Is a Hat. I Feel This This Could Be the Lord What You Say.

Let's Pray about It. But If I'm Going up on a Public Platform or Here in an International Platform Get off and Make a Public Prophetic Part of Pronunciation That Is False. By All Means I Need to Be Held Accountable for.

Without Question, so I Thank You Sir for the Call Very Important and Much Appreciated.

866-34-TRUTH All Right. Let's Go over to K in Stafford, Virginia.

Thanks for: the Line of Fire Hydrant around Her and Make Me Think I Question All after Mentioning That There Are Questions in a Command Founded Commitment That My Thing and I Believe That They Get There Today. Alan and I Want All That God Had for Me. According to the Scripture and I Get That Circle That I Travel and Fellowship with My Friend and I Think You Can't Bite the I and A Lot Of Friends That Are Pentecostal, That You Believe in the Power of the Holy Spirit in No Way Jesus Disciples That Went Preaching and You like, You Know, Should We Stop Dammit Event That You Know What They're Not against Me. Therefore, Me on That Kind of Camp and Any Other Camp. I Think Where There Year.

I Think Not Done Decently and in Order and Can I Get My Computer My Question, Then I'm Wondering If You Can Tell Me the Difference between a Prayer Language and Actually End the Night Book of Acts Where People Are Praying Internally and It with Another Language That the People around Language and Understood in a Follow-Up Question. That Is When You're in a Meeting and If There Is a Time That Comes Boy at the Dan Interpreter Is That the Act That the Prayer Language or That Actually to Get You.

I Don't See Any Distinction between Gift of Tongues and Cynical Prayer Language New Testament Doesn't Use the Terminology Prayer Language Speaks of Praying in a Time and It's Time That No Human Being Can Understand That's What You Have To Have the Gift of Interpretation As Opposed to Someone from That Country. The Only Time an Option under Womack Student Right Asked to Is the One Only Time It Records It Doesn't Say That There Was an Understandable Language in Acts 10 Doesn't Stated There Is an Understandable Language in Acts 19 and the Only Extensive Teaching We Have on It Is First Corinthians 14 Repulse Talking about.

Don't Forget Speaking in Tongues. Everyone Should Should Seek Prophecy. Don't Forbid Speaking in Tongues and If You Speak in Tongues.

If You Deliver Public Message Right so Here You Are Are You Doing the Public Met You Deliver Public Messaging Service.

I Get up during a Quiet Time in and Worship and I I I Speak 1/32 Message in Tongues and I Don't Have an Interpretation of Else Does That. I Should Be Silent and and That's That's What's Explicit Because the Spirit of the Prophets Is Subject to the Prophets, but Kate Listen I Am Unfortunately Out Of Time When I Was Filled with the Spirit Began to Speak in Tongues January 24 of 72. No One Understood the Language, I Was Speaking nor Did I and That Continues to Be the Case. As I Worship God in Prayer and Positive Identification on Life and Blessing of Others. Thank You for the Call Really Keep This Conversation Going.

Another Hour, Bottom Line Today. I Want Everything God's Word Says That I Should Have, to Glorify Jesus Test Done the NAR the New Apostolic Reformation. What Is It Is It of God/the Devil's Time for the Line of Fire with Your Host Activist and Author, International Speaker and Theologian Dr. Michael Brown Your Voice of Moral Cultural and Spiritual Revolution Michael Brown Is the Director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown. I Got a Little Question for Little Puzzle for You Right This Is Michael Brown the Full Monty Open 866-34-TRUTH 784 We Had a Great Hour the First Hour I've Asked People to Call in If They Have Questions about So-Called New Apostolic Reformation Is Dr. Peter Wegner Went to Be with the Lord Just A Few Days Ago, Saves That the Founder of That Movement. Folks Still Wanted to Call and Talk about Bill Johnson and and Bethel and in Redding California and Not Satisfied with My Interview with with Pastor Johnson Pate Phone Lines Are Open.

Once Again, and When Not the Ghost. October Doctrine so Much like I'm Not Sure What the Word Says on This Is Much As Practices and Things That That of Course Would Go Back to Doctrine, so the Number to Call with Your Question. Feel Free to Differ with Me. Feel Free to Say Hey Mike I Think You're Wrong on This Document As I Think Your Narrowness Fine No Problem. I Welcome I Welcome Your Calls Right 866-34-TRUTH but Let's Let's Go through a Little Sequence Here and What You Tell Me How You Can Work This out. Someone Gets up and They Begin Preaching and They Began Saying No. As I Was Studying the Word the Lord Began to Show Me That I Was Wrong about the Resurrection of Jesus and Jesus Didn't Rise Physically.

Actually, That's a Wrong Theory Rose Spiritually, but He Didn't Bodily Rise and in Those Believe in the Bodily Resurrection There an Error.

So How Would What Would You Do It Immediately so That's That's Heretical How Would You Know That Was When My Church Was to Get You Better Than That. Well, I Mean the Creeds Got Even Better Than That. Will the Word Word Plainly Speaks of the Physical Bodily Resurrection of Jesus.

Okay Great Perfect Great so It Knows We Would Sort That out with Scripture and We Would Say Okay This Is This Is What the Bible Says and It's Confirmed by the Most Fundamental Earliest Creeds.

Okay Agree That's Always Sorted out Right. Someone Says How Was I Was Praying Yesterday.

I've Had This Back Issue from Months Noted Doctors Want Back Surgery but It's Really Iffy. I Was Praying and Said God I Believe You're the Healer. I Believe You're the Same Yesterday Today and Forever You Peeled in the past but Healy's Said That He Says Seventh of This Heat All over My Back Is like 10 Heating Pads All Enveloping My Back Annexing the Pains Left and I'm Completely Healed. I Went Back to the Doctors the Doctors It's a Miracle. So How Would You Evaluate How Would You Evaluate Well You Would Say Okay Is There Scripture That Says That God Could Still Heal Today, of Course, Not Just Could, but That We Should Expect I'd Say That Abundantly Clearly and That's How We Would Judge the Experience That That the Bible Speaks of God Being the Healer and That It Produced Good Fruit of Healing in a Person's Life and It Was an Answer to Prayer. If We Ask God for Brady Will Give Us a Stone Exegesis Is Matthew Seven. Luke 11 Therefore Have Every Reason to Say What Sounds like the Lord to Me If Some so I Have A Lot What Why Couldn't People like to the People or so. We Agree That Ultimately Ultimately We Discern First and Foremost Based on Scripture and of Scripture. What Scripture Doesn't Directly Address Something. I Was I Was Praying in My Room and Suddenly Is like a Cloud Filled the Room. I Don't Know What's Expected so That the Fear of God Fell on the That the the Fear of God Came upon the and and I Began to Repent Deeply of Sin in My Life and I Want to Much to My Family.

I Confess to Them If I out. I Now Love Jesus in My Life Is Pure Will Have You Judge It Will.

The Bible Doesn't Say That a Cloud Couldn't Appear We Know the Old Testament God.

The Cloud and Because It Brought the Fear of the Lord in Repentance and Holiness in Life Devoted to Jesus Civil since It Produced Scriptural Truth. Sounds like the Lord That How We Work Things out As I Have Limited Value 866-34-TRUTH on Your Calls As Soon As We Come Back the Light a Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 866.

Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown. All Right, Welcome Back to the Line of Fire. Okay so Screening Calls. Okay God It God It so Betsy You Just Taking over for Howard No I Already Complemented Him Earlier Right Now Get to Complement You All Right Role Clear the Call. Now Betsy Will Be Screening Your Calls 866-34-TRUTH 7884. Your Phone Calls in a Moment. Thanks and If You Been Holding for Almost an Hour of Want to Get Everybody I Can on Looking at an Article Blasting Me from 2014. Generally, Dr. Michael Brown Says Friends Mike Bickel and Lou Engle True Man of God. Yet Absolutely True Blue I Know Them Well Spent Many Hours with Them a Spent Lot of Time in Prayer with Them Seeking God Together Cry out True Man of God I Absolutely Do. I Agree with Everything Teacher Preach Eleanor As a Teacher Preach, Who Has Time to Listen to Hundreds and Hundreds and Hundreds and Hundreds and Hundreds of Hours of Everybody's Teaching and Preaching, but All the Time We Spent Together Things We May Draw the Things We Believe Together Absolutely Yeah I Get Blasted for That I'm Looking at a Series of Articles Here on Shocking Beliefs. Shocking, Shocking Beliefs of Martin Luther.

What John Calvin CS Lewis Was Was My Point. If Frank Viola Put These out Not to Deny These Men Were Christians but to Say You Know It's Interesting with Interest Monies Come Out Of Pygmalion 2000 52,016 That Frank's Voice to Say It or Will We Nail Leaders to the Wall Today for Things Much More Minor Than Someone with These Leaders Believed. Now This Right Believe We Should Be Doctrine Accurate.

Yes, As He Is Scripture. Man Oh Yes, Yes, Absolutely. He's Talk about Our Attitude and That's Just One Thing I Want to Say That If You Damn Martin Luther to Hell Because of the Things He Taught and Believed about the Jews Thinks about Peasants of the Stuff Is Completely Outrageous Stuff That Literally Led to Bloodshed Literally Led to Bloodshed and Directly Connects to the Holocaust Right Is Not Hyperbole. Many Just Simple Facts You Civil and Equipment to Christian and That's Why Also Condemn This Leader Initially in This Leader Today. Okay You Been Consist but When You Are Going to Defend Martin Luther Whose Transgressions Massively, Massively Outnumber the Their Failings of Some Modern Charismatic Leaders Unit down the Ladder to Hell As False Prophets and Heretics and False Teachers and Defend Martin Luther. I'm an Issue That That to Me Is Unequal Weights and Measures, and That Something Scripture Is Plainly against the City While I down the Carousel Funimation with Luther on the Dam into Hell Hope to See Him in the World to Come. But Obviously There One for Help.

What Will Happen That the Horrific Damage That You Did What What Will Happen in the Things You Said Wrote Claimed Dykes, but Having Said All That I Have an Issue with Condemning a Brother or Sister to Help Based on a Non-Central Doctrine or Practice That I Differ with and That's One of the Response and What When I See Websites That Post Falsehoods and Blatant Falsehoods or Make Ridiculous Statements.

Now I Was on a TV Show Once the Questionable Literature Bound Christian to Be Sure, Not in a Debated so Once Again, I Really Pushed His Book and Is Going to Sell Tens of Thousands or Hundreds of Thousands of Copies.

Whatever the Number Was What These Serious Next Six Weeks after the Broadcast That Ministry Asked If They Could Purchase 400 Bucks for Ministry and and We Could Submit a Statement of Discounted Edges of the Publishers Best Way to Do a Service Ticket and Make a Dime from It, and If Anything If I End up with a Person. The Royalty Was like 200 Offices Will Be Tens of Thousands of Books about Why Sickening Nonsense and Things. I Know Because I'm an Eyewitness to Being Blatantly False. And Then When Some on Top of It Hide behind Anonymity, Respect for That.

And You Better Believe Understand with a Brother or Sister Who I Know Loves the Lord. It May Have Samaritan Needs to Be Corrected Understand before Them the Rest of Wood with a Critically's Posting Blatant Falsehoods and Not Repenting of Them and Not Asking for Forgiveness and Not Making Things Right Just Been Clear 866-34-TRUTH. Let's Go Jimmy DC Thanks so Much for Holding Sir.

Welcome to the Line of Fire. The Question I Think Your Opinion of All Close Family Member Who the Current Back Church and She Believes in Finding Wonders, but You They Wanted in a Cockle Reject the Trinity. I Was Wondering That the Current Battle Being Nourished and You Either Got It and Care about That or Is Demonic or with the Flesh yet, at the Hour of the Flesh, Absolutely, yet You Having to Get Your Opinion on That. Yeah so Oneness Pentecostal Churches They Normally Would and Identifies As Charismatic.

They Would Strictly Identify As Pentecostal.

In My Experience Sometimes Is Just a Fine Line between the Two of.

Yet They Are Ones Who Preach That Jesus Is the Father Son and the Holy Spirit. They Say That Would Baptize in the Name of the Fathers of the Spirit, Not the Names of and They Say What Is the Name of the Fathers in Spirit Will Ask 238 Be Baptized in the Name of Jesus so That Jesus Is the Name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit That in in Isaiah 961 of the Titles for the Son of God More. This World Is Everlasting Father. Therefore Jesus Is the Father and That They Teach Modal-ism That Is That These Are Different Manifestations of the One God so That I Am at One in the Same Time.

Hassan, a Father or Grandfather, a Husband, Radio Host and Author Depends on Which Hat I'm Wearing. So the Same with Alleged Trinity That That's What They Believe and Oneness Pentecostals Really Believe If You're the Extreme Ones If You're Not Baptized by One of Their Bishops in the Name of Jesus, Not Even Say That Would Be the Extreme Form, and That If You Don't Speak in Tongues Are Not Safe Here, except One. The Extreme One at One Time She Got.

I Did, I Would Search. Write Me a Little.

I Was Wondering Whether Being Filled with Silt. So There Are There Are 33 Options Only and and I Would Be Deeply Concerned As Well That Many Say This, a Large Number of Apologists and Christian Teachers Say That This Group Is Completely Apostate That They Are Not Saved at All That Because They Deny God's Trying Nature There Heretics Okay and Dr. James White Makes an Excellent Point Terms of Pressing of Who They Even Believe Jesus Is in and Do They Really Have the Son and Its Appointed the That He's Raised I Can Articulated of Top My Head the Way He Has, but He's Raised Questions. Do They Really Have a Suck. As I've Said First onto If You Have a Son You Have. The Father Also Could It Be That Even in the Midst of Their Extreme Error That They Still Have Rightly Believed in Jesus As Savior and Lord. And and and and God. God the Son, and Therefore Could Be Safe so II Believe Some Could Be Saved but There Is Great Concern Because It's Serious Error and I Understand Why Some Say It's It's Apostasy and Heresy. I Fully Understand That I Just Dealt with Some of the Years It Seemed to Be Genuine Believers That Are Not in the Full Extreme Side, so Could It Be If They Have the Son of the Father Also Put Put It Putting That Aside, Let's Think Worse Case Scenario. Worst Case Scenario If They're Not Saved at All. Right Then It's Either Demonic Stuff Happening and Anybody Collectors Conifer Tongues As the Caliphate Miracles in the Old Testament Fruit for Satan to Conifer Tongues Are for Human Emotion to Conifer Tongues That's Easily Enough Done Right. It's Not like There Counter Printing Raising Jesus from the Tet or Something You Know or Counterfeiting Creation. These Are Things That You Could There Be Caliphate Signs, Wonders and Miracles That Happens A Lot a Stuffy Flesh Late and Happens so Is It Possible That There Were Sincere Believers in the Midst of This Deceptive Erroneous Doctrine Generally Receiving the Spirit Gently Being Saved. It's Possible over Some of My Colleagues Would Say, Could Never Happen, but Let's Just Say It May Be Possible That God Is Still Working in the Midst of This Because of the Exultation of Jesus and Not Not Denying Him As Lord God Are Not Denying Him As the Only Savior Not Denying the Power of His Blood, Etc. Not Denying the Authority of Scripture. But Obviously Treading a Very Dangerous Ground, Either Outright Heresy and and Their Lost and Damned or Very Close to It so It's Possible the Holy Spirit Is Working in Some of Them.

Otherwise, It's the Flesh or Demonic Caliphate and and It's Manifest One of Manifestations Is the Severe Faulty Doctrine in the Judging of the Rest of the Body.

I Pray That the Holy Spirit Really Reveal Things There Because Often These Churches Are Very Legalistic and Put A Lot Of Pressure on People out Flow Think If If If You Don't Speak in Tongues Are Not Saved Jessica Petrenko Pressure to Manufacture Something Regularly, so the Same Way with A Lot Of Standard Facet.

Some Christian Leaders Appointed out That Legalists Are Either Self-Righteous or Self Condemned Is Either Deceived about Yourself and You Think You're the Only One Doing It You Realize You're Falling Short. Pray That God Would Would Expose That Legalism Bring Her to a Point of Spiritual a Bankruptcy so That Truly Does Turn to the Truth of the Gospel Hates Jim Thank You for Calling the Lord Touch or Touch or Touch Others in This Church Bring Them to the Centerville in Truth, Consisting of the Line of Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Voice of Moral Cultural and Spiritual Revolution. Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown Welcome That the Line of Fire, 866-34-TRUTH My Joy to Be with You Seeking a Separate Truth from Error Seeking to Understand How to Discern What the Lord Is Doing and Isn't Doing. I Will Give You Some Principles for That As Well Will Give You Principles of Discernment Based on the Writings of Jonathan Edwards Based on My Own Reflection in the Word in Revival and Experience As Well. First We Go Back to the Phones 866-34-TRUTH Chris and Grand Forks, North Dakota. Thanks so Much for Holding Welcome to the Line of Fire Becker or Take My Call. Got a Question I Mean the Topic Today Is That What Is New Apostolic Reformation Might Think I'm Getting Clear Answer As to What That Is but Having Read the Peter Wagner's Book on Apostles Today It Very Clear That He Believes That the Year 2001 That the Charismatic Prophet Had Predicted and Have Confirmed That We've Entered the Second Apostolic Age and That God Has Restored Apostle on the Earth and There Is All Kind of Different Apostles and Apparently This Is Supposed to Delete so That That the Church Can Receive Marching Orders in Order to Fulfill Its Mandate That You like Them to the General to Been Missing from the Army of Christ, the Death of the Apostles Did That but You Just Provided More Clarity for Listeners in One Minute That I Have in the First 80 Minutes Because of the Taking Calls Them with Other Issues, but Sooner Thank Thank You for Perfect.

This Is Exactly What I Want to Talk Tropical Had Continue. Please, so My Question Is I'm a Pastor of a Small Lutheran Church and the Minnesota and I've Been Told by the Charismatics in My Area That I Need to Submit Myself and Submit My Congregation under the Umbrella of the Apostolic Umbrella of a Female Apostle Who Is Not Far from the Is There Any Reason to Believe That What Now Know That We Would Have Me Do Well Know No No, Just in Case Anyone's Unclear and Where I Stand Right Chris Let Let Me Let Me Interact Briefly with What You Described in the Teaching of Peter Wegner.

Okay Where I Where I Disagree and Where I Agree. In the Let's Get Back to Your Specific Situation Right This This Was One of the Calls I Was Waiting for Wanted to Be Able to Respond to so Perfect.

Thank You. Okay of. I've No Question Based on Scripture Definition That There Were the 12 Apostles and There Are Others Called Apostles.

Remember It Was, Not a a Spooky Unusual Term It's It's It's an Emissary It's Sent One in Hebrew.

Surely Office Just an Emissary amid a Messenger. Someone Sent on a Mission Okay so There's Nothing the Term Is Become the Apostles That I Know We Got the 12 Apostles and on the Foundation Stones of of the New Jerusalem. Revelation 22 but You Know I'm Looking at Acts 1414, the Apostles Barnabas and Paul Tore Their Robes of Their Others Called Apostles in the New Testament outside of the 12. So Are Your Apostles Today Is That How I Understand.

Ephesians 4 That God's Appointed Apostles, Prophets, Adventist Pastors, Teachers Who Have Extended First 2012.

Yeah, I Believe That There Are People Who Have That Pioneering Foundation Laying Divinely Backed Apostolic Ministry Today.

One of My Best Examples Is My Friend in NDA Soup. Autumn Was an Untouchable Communist, Alcoholic, Atheist or Violent Man.

Jesus Appeared to Them and Save Them in His Mid-20s and He's Been Stone for His Faith. He Has Planted Probably over 8000 Churches in Tribal Areas Is Completely Revamp the Whole Area As Far As the Gospel Getting Worse Never Gone He He's Now Pioneering Works in Several Different Nations Is the Ultimate Servant You'll Ever Meet, of the Power of God Is on His Life. I Look at Him As a Modern-Day Apostle. He Never Uses the Title Wouldn't Even Think of It, but All That to Say I Believe Eczema like Hudson Taylor, William Booth, I Believe These Were Apostolic Men. They Were Pioneers They Were Planting New Things. They Were Foundation Layers and Builders. They Had a Certain Divine Authority, Even If They Witnessing Themselves like That. So Some of It to Me Is Semantics Okay. But If Someone Can Recognize That Their Calling Is Not Just Traditional Pastor Traditional Teacher Traditional Evangelist That They Are Supposed to Plant New Things and Pioneer New Things and and and Maybe It Reintroduce Things in Scripture That People Lost Sight of It and Maybe Have a Certain Regional Authority like Timothy with You. We Call a Bishop That He Was the Leader over the Congregations in Ephesus.

I Do Believe God Raises People of like That and and I Think Recognizing That Understanding That Is Important. What I Put That on My Name Card, No and I Work with Others That Used To Be Called the Collision of Apostles with Hidden like the Way That Sound That They Change It to a Coalition of Apostolic Leaders and I'm I'm More at Home with That Terminology Because It's It's It's Easier to Understand Right so I Agree with That. I Disagree That There Are All These People Now All over the Place. You Know Apostles in the Workplace and Apostles Here That That Everybody Becomes an Apostle That Chris If You If It's Been a Standard In-House Charismatic Joke of Ours for Years. Once You Start Your Second Church or an Apostle, You Know, Which Is Change Your Name for Pastor to Apostle Because You You Sent Someone out to to Introduce Soup Kitchen Mission so That Your Real Apostle. The Term Gets so Overused and so Abused I've Had an Issue with It for Many Many Years and yet I Recognize Men That God's Raised up on National Levels in Different Countries That Are Doing Extraordinary Work in.

They Have the Kind of Apostolic Anointing Meeting Date. They Are Back to Go on This Mission and to Establish New Things and Sometimes They're Speaking to Government Leaders and Sometimes Are There in the Business Will They Can Be All Different Settings, but There Doing This Extraordinary Ministry Work All That II Believe Is Helpful. Can I Pinpoint the Time When Some of This Understanding Happened. Peter Wegner Says He Could II Don't Know. I've Never Looked at It like That. I'm Not One to See Times and Trends in That Way so That Happened on That Aware of It That I'm Not Discounting It. What I Am Saying Is Wrong Is That People Associate Being Apostolic with with Accumulating Churches and Ministries under Your Domain or Command I: Apostle by Acquisition by Naming Everybody and Their Brother Apostle by by Putting That Now in Your Your Name Card As Part of Your Title. I II Don't Agree with Doing That and I Think It's Unhelpful to.

I Believe There Are Truly Apostolic People Alive Today Absolutely and I've the Privilege and Joy of of Working with Them. Do I Believe on Apostle.

No Scarf and Head of Do I Believe That Anyone Telling You That You Need to Come under Their Authority Is Out Of Order. Yes Your Part of the Lutheran Church You Have Denominational Structure That Your Accountability Structure. If You Met with a Group of Leaders Together in Your City and There Was Someone Recognizes a City Father That Everyone Hate. We Honor You with Wonderful Let That Be, but No One Comes to You and Tells You That You Need to Be Submitted to This or That When You're That That's Out Of Order and That Is a Serious Abuse in My View, so That Doesn't Help You.

Yeah, That Helps to Fight Back. Follow-Up Question Lieut. Taylor If If You Don't Mind.

Stay Right There Were about to Start a Brand All Know, I'm Sorry, I Accidentally Dropped Chris Got My College Diploma Whole Hockey Help All You There. Here There Is A Lot I Drop Somebody Else Also.

I Will Stay There. I Want You to Ask Your New Question at the Beginning of the Next Half Hour.

It's the Line of Fire with Your Host Activist, Author, International Speaker and Theologian Dr. Michael Brown Voice of More Cultural and Spiritual Revolution Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 66343 Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown You so Much for Joining Us on the Line of Fire, 866-348-7884 on Either Apostles and Prophets Today Is What Mormons Believe Supply Charismatics Resort Clearly Taught New Testament. What about the Holy Spirit Moving Today.

Is He Doing a New Thing a Different Thing Does He Appear in Clouds and Glory and Does Raise the Dead, Heal the Sick Today and Give Prophetic Words That Scriptural Can We Know Whether It's Scriptural or Not Is Enough Evidence in the Bible to Address.

It Is Scriptural or Not, How We Discern These Things. This Will Talk about with You Today on the Broadcast 866-348-7884 and Okay Let's Yeah Let's See I Was Thanked Right I See My Confusion. I Have Two Chris Is on the Air. Chris and Rockport Missouri. Thank You for Calling Back. You Are Holding and I Accidentally Dropped Your Call. I'm Glad You're Able to Get Back in. Thank You Alright I Want to Reconnect with Chris in Grand Forks, North Dakota and Everybody Just Joining Me All of Our Great Friends in the DFW Area.

We Are Starting a Brand-New Half Hour. Please Give Me a Call If Questions, Concerns, Issues, the So-Called New Apostolic Reformation. What Is It Is It of God or Man or the Devil. Please Give Me a Call. Love to Hear from You. 866-34-TRUTH 7884 so Chris and North Dakota Your Question, Please Sure My Follow-Up Question You. It Is Actually One Quite Funny That You Expected Todd Bentley Service Was the Coronation Service. But As You Are Aware, the Peter Wegner Was the One Presiding over Todd Bentley's Coronation Service and Just Attended an Adjuster for Those Just Tuning and Were Referring to Service A Few Years Ago in Lakeland, Florida during What Was Called the Lakeland Outpouring Where a Number of Well-Known and Respected Charismatic Leaders from from America and Canada Were There to Lay Hands on Todd. Not All Know That Every One of Them Was There for the Same Reason. One of Them Specifically Told Me He Was Shocked with What Happened That Night. But, under the Leadership of C. Peter Wegner. They Laid Hands on Todd Bentley and Basically Login the Way My Wife and I Dubbed It a Coronation Service.

It Was Terribly Embarrassing for Me to Watch Some of My Friends of Their Participating in It. Not Long after That of the Whole Thing Collapsed and Todd Was Found to Be Insensitive Squarely Divorced His Wife and Married Someone Else and Yes He Peter Wegner Was the Leader in That and I Was Embarrassed for Him. He Is with the Lord Now, but I Felt It Was Complete What Was Being Done Was Completely off Base Having a Ring Put on the Finger at II Was Ashamed As a Charismatic, Costal. I Was Ashamed. Okay. And so If You Are Familiar with the Service You've Seen It That That Bill Johnson and Shay Onward Both Guarantee Peter Wegner Introduced Both of Them As Kind of the Notable Apostles Present or per Todd Bentley's Coronation and My Question Is, Given That He Peter Wegner's Theology That Is so Clearly Taught in This Book. In What Sense That He Believed That That Bill Johnson and Shay on Were Apostles and Should I Believe That They Truly Have an Apostolic Anointing Based upon the Patient and the False Prophet. They Gave regarding Todd Bentley. Yep, I Thank You Excellent Question, Let Me Say One Thing First and Answer the Rest.

On the Other Side of the Break. I One Hundred Percent Understand Why People Who Watch That Service.

That's What You Know Bill Johnson Shay on Peter Wegner. I Fully Understand What You Think Charismatics Are Flaky. I Fully Understand Why You Say These Men Could Not Be True Apostles and Prophets. I Fully Understand That and I Am Absolutely Sympathetic to Your Concerns. Just Want to Say That Plaintiff Hey Frank This Is Michael I Would Encourage You to Join Our Support Team Today, Torchbearer One of Our Regular Monthly Support That Enables Us to Broadcast the Line of Fire in America and around the World and All. Every Month We Any Many Different Way. Join Our Team Become a Torch for Pastor Brown a SK Brown.org. Click on the Error on the Line of Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Voice of More Cultural and Spiritual Revolution. Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks Again for Joining Us on the Line of Fire, 866342. Thank You, over Torchbearers, over a Month to Support His Join Our Team.

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If You Appreciate This Broadcast. If It's Meaningful to You to Have Our Voice on the Air Stand with Us, Go to the Line of Fire.org Click Donate and Become a Monthly Supporter Right so Just to to to Finish up the Question, Chris. Why Would Peter Wegner Think That Bill Johnson Okay on Were Quote Apostles Again Defined We Were Defining Them There in a Minute Talking about the 12 Apostles Were Not Talking about Someone Having Authority to Write Scripture When Our Time at Any Such Thing. They Are Servant Leaders Dislike Pastors and Evangelists Are the Same Way, but I Would Say It's Fairly Obvious That That Both of Them Have Birth and Help Oversee Worldwide Movements, the Words That That Being Apostolic Would Be Spiritual Fathers Who Are Reproducing That Would Be One Characteristic of of Apostolate City As We Would Say Which Is Reproducing Leaders Ministers Racing up Sending out and Not Just Leaving One Specific Work with Something That Becomes a Movement As Well Think That Would Qualify Peter Wegner's Views and Shay Certainly Done It Not Just As a Church Planter but but Overseeing a Network of Hundreds of Churches Worldwide and What's Happening.

Bethel Is Now Multiplied. What You like It or Not, Has Multiplied in in Hundred Thousands of Churches Bible Schools Ministries around the World As Well.

So in That Sense, They They Are Having a a Multi-Church, Multi-Regional Multinational Impact with Your Ministry, and I Think That Would Be Part of What He Would Characterize As As Apostles. Okay Based on Theology Book. I Just Wonder If That the Way in Which He Meant It All on the Treehouse with Her Again on Five I've Not Read A Lot Of of Peter Wegner This. He Writes A Lot and I Haven't. Having Read A Lot Of You Have Been in Meetings with the Meat We Knew Each Other Sometimes Would the Thing Spoke on the Phone One Time One or Two Times and in Otherwise We Were.

We Served on the Board with That with Lou Engle for the Call Events and the Thing That Struck Me When I Was with Him Was High Level of Integrity. I Remember That Now Here Figure This out Chris Okays with the Lord Now Sought out. I Just Want to Be As Transparent As I Can of but We Were at a Meeting and We Had about 30,000 People in the Stadium in in in California and Afterwards We Were Evaluating Things in Future Meetings and Someone Said the Other.

Some Prophetic Words at the Stadium Would Be Packed in Peter Wegner Said Who Said It Would Need to Hold Him Accountable Immediately.

He Was All over, Accountability and All over Integrity and All over Ministerial Accountability and and Holiness of Life and in the Authority of Scripture and All of That and yet There Were Aspects of His Theology That Felt Led to Abuses in Terms of Everybody and Their Uncle Becoming an Apostle and Then the Misuse of That That Okay I'm in a Point You Chris Is the Apostle of the Grand Forks and Everybody Has To Listen to My Client. I Declined You Okay Okay Good Good. So Good. Did You Declined and I Can't Do It Anyway.

But beyond That I Can't Say I in My Definition of Apostolic Leaders Today Would Someone like Chapin Office of Peter Sure Was That That Would Fit Note Multiplying Church Planter Father of of of Other Leaders Worldwide Impact, Etc. Does That Make It All the More Grievous to Me That He Said What He Said over Todd Bentley and I Guess Absolutely Invent a Chain I Don't See Each of the Locket That We Were We Were Good Friends and Work Together Fairly Closely in the past and I Know He's He's All for Accountability As Well. I Just Never Talk to about the Whole Thing Was Taught and and Is so Much Water under the Bridge and so Many Other Things Happening in Life and Ministry Is Just Something I Haven't Done but Certainly If We Were Working Together. That Would Have Been an Immediate Would Call and Say Hey Buddy What Was Going on.

So What Happened Last Night. That's Crazy Even before Stuff Was Revealed about Todd Hey Chris, Thanks for the Dialogue and the Phone Calls and Be Faithful to the Lord's Called You and Just Smile the Others That Are Telling You Need to Submit to This Woman Going through the Work of the Lord All Right 866-34-TRUTH Are Chris and Rockport Missouri. I'm so Glad You Got Back through. I Apologize for Excellently Cutting You off at Not a Probably Not the First One to Hang up on Me for No Big Deal Yes Go Ahead Okay so Here's My Question. I Saw You on Twitter You're Asking about the Glory Cloud Which I I Did Get Irritable Shows like I Can Imagine Some You Can Actually Make an Argument from Scripture against That. But My Question Would Be about Some of the Other Stuff. The Angel Feathers. The People Keep Turning Gold like Billington and Jules Appearing in People Finding Manna in the Bible and All of That Kind of That Same Line of Thought There I Just like Your Opinion on It and Maybe Hear What You Have To Say about It. A Lot Of It Seems Really Strange to Me and Some of It Here and There Has Been Exposed Minute I Know a Church in Tulsa Some Years Ago with Her Feathers Falling through the Air and It Was a Complete Sham and Me That It Was a Scam As a Shams Can Be That the Lady Was of Their Ministry I Think Is the Lady or She May Bend the Law of the Props That Literally While She Get People Close Their Eyes and Praying That One of the Guys Would like Go Upstairs and Thrive Start Throwing Feathers at yet. Summing This Crazy Stuff like That This Happened. I Also Know of People Godly Saintly Holy Living Word Oriented Word Grounded People Solid Saints If You Knew Him. He Said Well That's a Man of God. It's a Woman of God, and While They Been Praying They Said They Felt the Presence of God in the Room and Looked at Their Hands in Their Hands Are Covered with Oil.

II Know I Know Other People That I Would.

I Was in a Meeting in Mexico. I Can't Tell You Whether It Was God or or Somebody behind the Scenes Was Doing Something. But There Is This Woman Who's Had This Gold Dust Manifestation and As She Speaking There Is States like Just Kind of Torn out from behind Her Head Is a Case of Some Kind of Proper Something out. I'm Watching like What's Going on so We Should Be Able to Discern. I Which Was Preaching Was True. When She Was Preaching Was Fine in the Churches Is a Evangelistic Holiness Word Based Church That I Preached in Mega Church in Mexico Several Times.

It Was Weird to Me. Okay, I'm Trying to Ask You Lord What's Going on. I Don't Want to Reject Something That You, but This Seems Weird to Me. What's the Purpose I'm Going through. I Can Be Skeptical As Anybody. I Then Went in the Back Room Where You Could Sit and Have Some Border Refreshments and the Whole Room Was Basically All the Carpet All the Walls Almost Covered with This Gold Stuff She Had Gone in There and Prayed for Their Staff during a Break Laid Hands on Them and They Said the Other Goal Was Is Fire Not All I Know Is That This Left Room like That Notes Didn't Know I Was Coming Afterwards. This WasShow for the Public and It Was in the Woman Said That She She Doesn't Look for This, She Finds a Person a Little Embarrassing. You Know She She Wants Her Ministry to to to Center on Scripture Etc. Etc. but so I'm Not Saying That Can Happen. I Myself One Time Saw a Cloud for the Rumor I Was Teaching in New York City Just about 1015 or Nothing under 20 Koreans. I Was Teaching Hebrew Bible and Old Testament, and I Thought I Thought Was a Faulty, Faulty Line and in the Heating System and It Was like a Steam Heating System of the Room Filled with Steam during the Winter. That Is No Such Thing. It Wasn't the Heating System. I Was Only Sought and When He Finally Dissipated.

I Asked Anybody about It Looking like I Was Crazy When I Prayed about It.

The Lord Said to Me, That's Just a Side of My Presence This Semester and We We Had out for His Great Repentance and People Saved the Commander in Chapel and Stuff so I'm Not One to Say These Things Can't Happen. I See Nothing in Scripture That Says They Can't Happen. But Here's What We Have To Do Number One, If We Major on Them.

We Are an Instant Error. If We Look for Them.

We Are an Instant Error and If We Use Them As Some Type of Doctrinal Confirmation. We Are an Instant Error. I Hope That's Categorically Clear Enough for Everyone. If, However, While We Are Preaching and Teaching Sound Scriptural Truth. Okay What We Are Preaching, Teaching, Sound Scriptural Truth and There's a Sense of the Holy Spirit Coming and There Are These Unusual Manifestations That Either Produce Faith or Fear of the Lord Were Healing and Miracles and Jesus Is Glorified through It Again.

We Don't We Don't Listen for Doctrinal Confirmation.

We Don't Look for Them.

We We We Don't Put Our Trust in Those Things They Are There Peripheral at Best. But If God Does Something Again As We Are, As His Word Is Being Declared or Worshiping Him in a Scriptural Way Were Not Just Singing in No Hurry Hare Krishna or Something like That and and There's a Sense of God's Presence That Brings Fruit Either the Fear of God with Joy of the Lord Were Healing or Salvation. And It's Good Fruit That Remains and I Would Say Well It Seems like the Holy Spirit. That's How I Would Evaluate Okay What Extent Would You Grow Things like These Guys Claiming Supernatural Weight Loss of Money Appearing in Their Wallet. In That Same Boat. I Was Okay.

I Don't Want to Say That It Can't Happen That I Am Massively Skeptical about Some of like the Supernatural Weight Loss As Opposed to Being Disciplined for Your Story of Family That Soraya, It's the Light a Fire with Your Host Dr. Michael Brown Get into the Line of Fire Now by Calling 866-34-TRUTH Here Again Is Dr. Michael Brown Welcome Welcome to Want to Fire Thank You so Much for Calling 866 Truth Right so Chris and Rockport Missouri.

Let Me Just Finish This off. There's a Story That Was Told I Can Verify Gordon Lindsay Who Is a Great Christian Leader Want to Be with the Lord. When the Early 70s. He Was the Founder Christ for the Nations in Dallas with Branches around the World and the Story Is Told That Is Severely Obese Woman Came to Him the Day before Her Wedding and Said Brother Lindsay, Would You Please Pray for Me That I Will Lose a 200 Pounds by My Wedding Tomorrow and According to the Story. Witness Replied I'm Sorry but This Kind Only Comes out by Prayer and Fasting Sold Look If Somebody Had Some Metabolic Disorder and Gained a Ton of Weight and Body Heal the Disorder Remove the Weight.

Could He Do That One Just like He Could Heal the Crippled Lamb More WordPress Things like That, Why Not but I I've I've Never Seen the Actual Testimonies of It on TV but Just Put Me in the List of Skeptics I Mean Just like It and Limit Limited and This Is Was One Very Open to the Holy Spirit and Is Moving. I Just Have a Major Question When I Hear Something like That. I I Gotta Elicit One of the Same When It Comes to like the Gold Teeth Issue Not Had a Question about That for Years like Let's Say You're Bald and You're Praying for Here Will God Give You What to Pay for It Will Give You Care If If You Have a Heart Condition Will God Put a Pacemaker in Your Body, or Will He Heal the Heart, so We Always Used To Wonder about That Because We We Started Hearing about This in the Early 70s. That Discussion Pray for You to Get Gold Teeth and and Silver Tea Things like Why Not Skip You Healthy Tooth Organic Gold Fillings like Why Get a Filling.

So I Fundamentally Question That for Years and Less.

For Some Reason It's Just a Sign That God Does Not. I've Got Rocksolid Friends Who Would Die for Jesus, Who Are Scripturally Sound This Anybody Will Ever Meet Missy and Mike We Look at That We Witness That Were Eyewitnesses in Our Church. We Had Dentist Check the Stuff outside Its Actual Goal Actual Silver They Can Explain It Either. So I Just Put That in. Let God Be God. But I Will Absolutely Not Major on That Put the Emphasis on That Make That the Big Proof of Anything on It Preach Jesus Lift Him up, Preach the Word, and Is the Holy Spirit Moves to the Glory of God into the Edification of His Body and the Salvation of the World and Let God Be God. The Error Is. If God Does Do Some of These Things Will Be Major on Them. When Outlook I Was Watching a Meeting with Two Dear Friends of Mine, Charismatic Leaders, Dear Friends, I Vouch for Them and Their Talk about the Presence of the Holy Spirit.

And in This in This Close Church Building Where They Were. So They Is There Talking.

This Feather Just Comes Waffling Them Is Nobody above and There Is Nobody to Drop It. It Just Comes Distraught and They Just Smiled and Laughed and Went on with the Meeting and I Would like Were Set Aside of the Holy Spirit's Presence like It Certainly Wasn't Somebody Just Doing It There on I Think the Devil Was Doing It but Whatever. They Smiled and and Went on and I Think If That's Her Attitude Were Were A Lot Safer for You Now Take the Thing in and Sell Duplicates of It Now. Now You Know Where the Things Coming from. I Hate That. Thank You God Bless You. Make Okay Solicit Limit. Let Me Angier with Jonathan Edwards. Jonathan Edwards Principles for Discerning Whether Something Is Real Is Truly Revival Movement Are Not Okay It's It's in My Book Time for Holy Fire.

Chapter 15 the Proof of the Revival Is in the Living License in Time for Holy Fire. The Proof Survives in the Living Chapter 15 of and I Go through Jonathan Edwards Nine Non-Size Is Nine Non-Signs Saying You Can't Conclude Because It Is Must Be the Spirit Can't Be Disputed. Based on These Things and I'll Be the Short Version of the One. Nothing Can Be Certainly Concluded from This Work Is Carried out in a Very Unusual Extraordinary Way Provided the Variety or Difference Be Such As May Still Be Comprehended within the Limits of Scripture Rules to Sing Just Because Something Is Different Than It Is Not God.

As Long As It Can Be Held within Scripture Rules and His Words. We Are about to Will Not Limit God What He Has Not Limited Himself Never to Work Is Not to Be Judged by Any Effects on the Bodies of Men Such As Tears, Trembling Groans, Lotta Cries, Agonies of Body or the Failing Abolish Strength in Other Words, If This Happens, like Wow, That Must Be the Lord's Persons Collapsing or Fainting or Crying out or Shaking. No, Not Necessarily What I Can't Be the Lord. No Just Don't Know. Work Is Not to Be Judged Based on It. Number Three Is No Argument That Operation on the Minds of the People Is Not the Work of the Spirit of God the Dedications a Great Deal of Noise about Religion a Bunch of Fanatics Doesn't Mean That the Holy Spirit Is Not Working Because People Sense Number Four Is No Argument That an Operation on the Minds of the People Is Not the Work of the Spirit of God That Many Who Are the Subjects of It Have Great Impressions Made in Their Imaginations. I Have A Lot I Saw It As a Man My My Eyes and Ears Open As My Hearts Burning with What This Means, Not God Because These Unusual Things Happen. Number Five Is No Sign of the Work Is Not from the Spirit of God. That Example Is Great Means of What You See Something Happening in the Same Thing Happens Elsewhere Deserving Spirits Not Working. Number Six Is No Sign of the Work Is Not for the Spirit of God That Many Seem to Be the Subjects of It Are Guilty of Great Princes and Irregularities in the Conduct It during Times of Awakening Revival. Some People Get Weird Zooming the Whole Thing Is Wrong Yeah Is This John Edwards Highly Respected Jonathan Edwards Number Seven If Someone Were Thought to Be Wrought upon Fall Winter Groceries or Scandalous Practices Is an Argument That the Work in General Is Not the Work of the Spirit of God. Yeah, That Was a Heresy That Was Totally off You Fishing the Work As a Whole Is Not Forgot.

Judged by the Whole Month by the Part of and Hang on Hang on Number Nine. It's an Argument That Work Is Not for the Spirit of God and Seems Be Promoted by Ministers Insisting Very Much on the Turbo's Holy Law, and That with a Great Deal of Pathos and Earnestness, so He Saying That in Those Days It Preach the Law so Heavily You Think Market You God I'm a Nerd Look at the Emotional Response to Today's Exact Opposite. But Those Were His Points. Then He Gives Five Points Let Let Me Summarize Them in for Disk As a Shortness of Time. Number One Is the Jesus of Scripture Exalted As a Result of This Movement As You Watch the People Touched over Period of Time in Their Lives Is the Jesus of the Scriptures Being Exalted in Our System, for Christ but the Jesus of the Scriptures, Is He Being Exalted in Their Lives.

That's Number One.

And Is He the One Being Exalted in the Preaching Number Two Are People Brought into Conformity.

The Word of God Today and I Love the Word of God and Submit to the Authority of the Word of God Number Three Is the Movement Producing Repentance from Sin and Towards Holiness. Number Four Is Resulting in a Burden for the Loss.

If These Four Things Are the Fruit of a Movement or Message or Church or Meeting. If These Four Things, the Exultation of the Jesus of the Scriptures Submission to a Love for the Word of God. Repentance from Sin Towards Holiness and a Burden for Most of These Four Things Are the Result of a Meeting of Movement to Message Then It's from the Lord Because Satan Won't Do It in the Flesh Can't Do It I Friends.

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