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coming up a little bit later on this hour. Let me read you reaction to get me to the next topic. This is from at AZ Andrews72. Yo, what up, Jim? Maybe just one more take.
On UM VWMU. Why is the Mac challenging? Just let it go. The Broncos bull chances are still intact. UM, I don't think, will have any CFP or Big Ten championship chance.
Underwood did throw a strike second time around.
Okay, so Damn, Michigan, man. Right when I think you can't sink any lower. Why do you keep coming in here with? Come on, man. Come on, Rome.
The dude threw an absolute seed this second time around. You know he did, Rome. Let it go.
Alright. Yeah, I'll grant you that. Absolutely dime. Great pass. Except for one thing.
He should have never had the opportunity to throw that second pass. There is that. And to answer your question: why don't they let it go? I think I can answer that. Why are they challenging?
Why won't they let it go? Because they won There's that. Because they won the freaking game. That's why. That's why they won't let it go.
Because they won the game. Yeah, but, but, but, Underwood threw an absolute pee, Rome. He did. And he was ass for the first 60 minutes of that game.
So much so that his own head coach won't even promise him his gig long term, even though he is their five-star and he's making millions and millions and millions of dollars. I'm not worried about this throw. the second throw. I'm worried about the second clock. that we didn't know about.
So, while you, Michigan man, are so fixated on the second throw to avoid the biggest embarrassment ever on the field. I'm more fixated on the second clock that I didn't even know existed. That's what I'm worried about. What do you mean, why won't they let it go? Why won't you let it go?
Ben. Stay off the field. Stop celebrating wins over teams that you're a four-touchdown favorite for, and stop trying to justify that you earned that. It was a gift. Look, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole two clocks thing.
Glad you brought it up. Like that actually happened. The Big Ten really did put a second back on the clock because of what they called an official time that was different from the time that we all saw on the broadcast. Which was actually a live shot. Of the time on the scoreboard where the scoreboard read zero time remaining while the ball was in the air.
But somehow, the time on the scoreboard in the stadium and on our televisions was not the real time. Let's get it. The real time was kept by the conference, apparently, and just so happened to have an extra tick left for Michigan to go win the game. The Big Ten really tried to tell us this. And they're really standing on that.
And they officially have no further comment, quote unquote. That's the story they're sticking to, even though it makes absolutely no sense. and really is embarrassing for all involved. The idea of two clocks. or a secret clock.
or a clock discrepancy From the clock that all of us can see. Man is so kooky and so absurd that it defies any and all logic. What do you mean you're keeping secret time on the side when the entire nation is watching the same clock over here? And it's unbelievable. That's even necessary considering they pulled this stunt to help Michigan beat Western Michigan.
Now, I know we talked a bunch about this yesterday, but this guy just brought it up again. This guy wants to know why the Mac is upset, why the Mac is challenging this.
So This is why we're still talking about it. And by the way, I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Do you see Lorne? If you're watching on the stream, with the telestration. Why are they upset?
Because the ball is still in the air and the clock reads 0, 0, 0. That's why they're upset. That is the shot of the scoreboard. The scoreboard. There's no time remaining.
It's 0, 0, 0. Triple zeros. See the red arrow? Triple zeros. See the yellow arrow?
That's pointing to the ball still in the air. That's why they're upset, Michigan man. You're the only one who's not upset. Can we spell it out for you? Thank you, Lauren.
There's not only a red arrow, there's the word time. Pointing at the clock. Zero zero zero. Let's go to the yellow arrow.
Well, actually, it's a red arrow pointing to the yellow circle. Ball still in air. Michigan man, I know you're the best and brightest, so I know I'm not going too fast for you. The clock says zero. The ball is still in the air.
That's why they're pissed. Zero. And I'm not the only one thinking it. Because the NCAA thought that it was necessary for them to release a memo today from their quote coordinator of officials, end quote. which happened to be approved by their quote.
Secretary Secretary Rules Editor. Man, damn, the NCAA's got some fancy titles, don't they? They want to remind everybody the NCAA is weighing in now. They want to remind everybody there is only one clock. They want to remind everybody there is only one official time, and guess where that time is?
Guess where that clock is? Guess where it is? The scoreboard. Look up at it. There is your clock.
That's the only one that matters. Period. Look at. This is what the NCAA is saying. Incredible that it took the NCAA coordinator of officials to release a memo approved by the NCAA Secretary Rules Editor to say the most obvious thing ever, that there is no secret clock.
There are no multiple clocks. There is only one clock. This scoreboard. Period. Here is a passage from the NCAA memo, and I quote the official time for all college football games is the time displayed on the in stadium game clock.
When a replay review requires time to be restored or otherwise adjusted, the replay official's decision Will be based on the embedded game clock contained within the program feed. If the broadcaster is unable to provide an embedded game clock, the replay official will use the game clock graphic displayed as part of the broadcast feed. It goes on. This timing protocol should be followed consistently. at all institutions and game sites.
In other words, it is the clock we're all looking at. It does not say if there's a discrepancy, we go to the private clock that we did not know existed, that the conference keeps. Nor does it say. This is the protocol, and it applies everywhere except the big house, where they have their own rules and they can do whatever the hell they want to avoid the humiliation of losing to a directional school in state where they're a four touchdown favorite. I mean The NCAA had to say that.
That there's only one clock. Obviously it goes without saying. If this protocol that they laid out was followed on Saturday night, Michigan man. Western Michigan man wins, and you, Michigan man, lose. If they followed the protocol that the NCAA said already existed.
If there is no secret clock, Michigan Man, you lose to Western Michigan Man. Thank you very much, NCAA, for jumping up in here to clarify. You get nothing. You get a lot of money. Since you clarified, doesn't Western Michigan get their win?
Don't they win the game if that's the rule? All right, great. We established that the Big Ten just made up some BS and stole a game from Western Michigan. Shouldn't you be able to do something about that? Aren't you the NCAA?
Aren't you the governing body of college sports? Obviously, it's a rhetorical question because, of course, there's nothing the NCAA can do. It's almost laughable that they even weighed in. Like, what? Hey, NCAA, why are you even weighing in or putting yourself in the middle of this?
As though any of the conferences give a damn about what you have to say about anything. Oh, that's the timekeeping standard. Oh, that's the timekeeping protocol. as though anybody cares about anything the NCAA says or does any more. And downright cute that the people in Indianapolis are still giving themselves fancy titles like Coordinator of Officials.
Secretary Roh's Editor. Given that nobody gives a damn what any of you do or say over there. Yo, hot shots in indie with the fancy job titles. You want to prove me wrong? You want to prove me wrong.
Do something about this. Go give Western Michigan man his win back. Oh, wait. Better yet, no I won't, because we all know you won't do, Jack. We all know you can't do Jack.
Just like we all know that the Big Ten will do whatever the hell it wants to do the next time it needs to. Michigan Matt. Yeah, yeah, but come on, Rome. You got to admit, that was a perfect pass he threw the second time. Yeah.
It absolutely was. The point is He should not have had a second opportunity. And what about all those ass passes that he threw for the first 60 minutes while Western Michigan was dragging your ass up and down the field and won that game? How do I know that won that game? Because the NCAA said so, even though what the NCAA says doesn't mean anything at all.
Michigan man Man, just take your win that you didn't earn or deserve and just keep moving and stop trying to justify it. That's why people don't like you, Michigan man. You got away with murder. You didn't win that game. That was given to you.
Take your gift and just keep moving. Stop acting like you earned that game and you want credit for winning that game. You didn't win that game. Hey Rom, what about scoreboard? Look up at it.
Well I did. And it said you lost. Jack and NC, quote: If you're not cheating, you're not winning. Signed, Michigan Man. That's strong.
Mr. Eric Bale. Western Michigan got schmacky choppered. Man, that is so true. That is so true.
They were holding on to a golden ticket. Their biggest win ever. It was right there in their hand. They were holding that lottery ticket. Man, we did it.
We went into the big house. 100,000 people there. Four touchdown dogs. We kicked their ass. We physically manhandled them.
They didn't fluke their way to that either. They won that game, they beat them down. And they're holding that ticket, that win over Michigan. Snatched right out of their hands because there was a secret clock. Yeah.
Aaron O. is having a day. Not only did Aaron O gift 20 Rome memberships. Arano also got through with the real clock. Was clock blocked.
Aaron, you didn't. Parker Peterson fifty nine sixty five In the chat. Even we think this secret clock. And Big Ten rigging is excessive and ridiculous. Signed all the clones who believe that Jim rigged the smack off wins for Caleb and Wisco and Mark in Boston.
What about Silk Bra? That was the biggest rig job ever, wasn't it? How about those seven times Brad won? Didn't I rig those? Are aren't all thirty of them rigged?
Didn't Jade see the brick? Was that a fix? One eight hundred six three six eight six eight six At the MP Charles twenty five, one more Rome. I'm more concerned with the three hundred other terrible throws that Underwood has made in his Michigan career, not the one good one. Exactly.
I'd be a lot more concerned about that. And stop acting like you earned that win when you did not. Just take it and keep moving. Mm. The secret clock.
That's how we're doing things now, Michigan, man. Hey, Michigan, man, you're already really, really sketchy and really, really suspect as is based on what's gone down the last several years, there, right? You know that, don't you? And now we have a secret clock.
Now maybe it wasn't yours, but the conference is, but very sus. That would take a short time out. When we come back. Jim Moore is still ahead. Junior.
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That's huge. That's key. And then you've got all this other nonsense which is going on in the college game.
Now let me let me move on to the next part of the college game. Let's talk about the SEC and what's going on there. It's not like what the SEC is up to this week makes any more sense than what the Big Ten is up to for the record. I don't want to leave them out of this because, as of yesterday, the SEC was still acting like they were going to have this ridiculous meeting of SEC leaders tomorrow to make the decision on whether or not they were going to terminate. LSU as a member.
In other words, kick them out of the conference altogether. Which is nearly as dumb a concept as trying to tell us that there's a secret clock. Which is actually the official clock that none of us can see that keeps the real time, the official time in Big Ten games. It's like yo.
Somebody pull the SEC off of LSU already. LSU Isn't even fighting back anymore. LSU submitted. LSU tapped already. LSU officially quit the fight, and yet the SEC is still out there in the middle of the ring, letting the hands fly, trying to land fatal knockout blows.
Look at land haymakers. Like, why are you still fighting? Like, they're They're like this. I always shoot like this. They've already tapped.
I said yesterday I was suspicious that Lane Kiffin was not done trying to put those NFL dudes on the field. I said, you know what? I don't think we've heard or seen the last of this. I think he's going to still try and get them on the field before too long. I was wrong.
Wrong. I was wrong. Wrong. He's not. Because LSU locked in their 105-man roster without the NFL dudes.
So he's not going to roster them.
So, you would think that would put an end to this war with the SEC, right? Right, SEC? You know all this saber rattling about how, yeah, well, if LSU escalates. If LSU wants to escalate, if LSU wants a war, they're going to get one.
Well, they don't. Which is what I said last week. How is any of this worth it to Lane Kiffin? It's like they decided, they agreed. They agreed.
They're not escalating. They're de-escalating.
So now I'm asking the SEC. The same thing. How is it worth it to continue to escalate and or fight this war with one of your most important schools? And why on earth would they even be remotely discussing throwing LSU out of a conference entirely if they didn't break any rules? When was the last time a school, much less that school and that conference, but when was the last time any school got kicked out of a conference?
I mean, I don't know, Temple, right? Got kicked out of the big east like 20 years ago?
Sorry to keep bringing this up. Happy Valley. But the Big Ten didn't even terminate Penn State. over the Sandusky scandal. or even Michigan during any of their million humiliating scandals in the wake of the Harbaugh era.
At no point did the Big Ten even remotely consider throwing anybody out. Yet the SEC can't wait to throw LSU out? Why? Because Lane was on TV saying, hey, think what it'd be like if we actually did have NFL players. That that's not a reason to expel.
Like I called BS on the whole thing yesterday. There is no freaking chance they're throwing LHU out of the SEC. And surprise, surprise. Pete Dammo's update today is that, quote, the situation has generally deescalated in the wake of LSU's decision not to roster players There are still issues, but the temperature of the whole situation has cooled. Considering the SAC really has nothing to be upset about anymore, I'm not surprised to hear that.
Considering LSU really didn't break any rules. It would make sense for the SEC just to chill the hell out and stop attacking, arguably, its most important brand right now. I'm just relieved that we get more football in a few days. I'm just relieved that we're all realizing that NFL players do not belong in college. I'm just relieved to find out that there's only one clock in a football game.
And I'm just relieved to find out. that the most basic Basics ever are now out of the way, and we can move on from all of this law and order phase of the college football calendar. to the actual football season. That phase. The football phase.
Can we just focus on that finally? Man, that thing flipped. But but they backed the hell down. That's all I said. Last week, when I went in and my guy, T-Bob Haybear, called me a son of a bitch on X because I said, Lane, Lane, Lane, Lane, how is this worth it?
How is it worth it? Why are you doing this? This is not Joe Burrow that you're trying to bring back. And then They agreed. They back down.
They didn't play those guys. They set their roster. They're not bringing NFL players in. They're not doing anything wrong really at this point.
So why is the SEC still flexing on them and threatening and having this meeting? And now finally they're mellowing out. Good Good.
Alright Vance Mac. Funny how soon, after the Big Ten took the moral high ground, not signing NFL players, they have. The clock scandal. Sincerely, Saint Kiffin. Yeah, I'm not saying the guy's a saint.
I'm just saying he backed down. Old Haas Radbourne, 5,900. Using a secret clock to win a game is completely legitimate. Signed banging on trash cans. Look who's here.
On three posted this from a Louisiana senator. John Kennedy. In fact, rather than me read this. Here is audio from Louisiana Senator John Kennedy. That's bone deep down to the marrow stupid.
I've got rocks in my driveway that are smarter than that. They're not gonna They're not going to throw LSU out of the SEC. Let me tell you something. I and a lot of other people in the United States Congress. Will be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
LSU hasn't done anything wrong. It's called a court of law. God made courts to decide disputes.
Now, whether you agree with what Alice you did or disagree, we did the right thing by going to court. We didn't just do stuff, we went to court. And we're going to abide by the court decision. Louisiana man again. Better than Florida man Louisiana man is on fire.
It's called Going to a court of law. I don't know, Sander. You know what I would call that? Bum smack. Did you just say?
We will be like a hobo on a ham sandwich. Did you just say we will be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich? That, sir, is bumsmack. That is not allowed. That was his reaction.
That was his reaction to the SEC possibly expelling LSU from the conference. That is incredible. I think I'd like to hear that one more time, even if that did include bone deep. That's bone deep. Bone deep what?
Senator Deep down to the narrow stupid. Wow. I've got rocks in my driveway that are smarter than that. They're not gonna They're not going to throw LSU out of the SEC. Let me tell you something.
I and a lot of other people in the United States Congress. Will be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich. The LSU hadn't done anything wrong. It's called a court of law. God made courts to decide disputes.
Now, whether you agree with what else you did or disagree, we did the right thing by going to court. We didn't just do stuff, we went to court and we're going to abide by the court decision. I thought he was going to say God. Made ham sandwiches for hobos, and we will be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I've got rocks in my driveway that are smarter than that.
Man, Louisiana man's been on a run. Louisiana man's been absolutely incredible lately. Man, that is some good stuff right there, Senator. All right.
So I by the way, I agree with him. I agree with them. They're not throwing LSU out of the SEC. I said that yesterday. And I'm saying that now.
Now, I didn't say it as emphatically or as colorfully as he did. But we're on the same page. All right, when we come back, Jim Mora Jr., Colorado State football coach, is scheduled to join us. That's coming up. Plenty more still ahead.
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Some other things that I want to talk about today. Carson Wentz was named as the Vikings quarterback. Backup quarterback for week one. Which means JJ. is officially QB3.
So remember, Kyler Murray was brought in to quote compete. Was JJ sure he was not? JJ plummets all the way to number three.
So are we supposed to believe that there's still a future for JJ with the Vikings when he couldn't beat out Journeyman Carson Wentz? Not Carson Wentz MVP candidate with Philadelphia. But JJ taking tenth overall a couple of years back is QB three. You're going to keep that guy around, and you're going to try to convince me that no, no, that's still our quarterback of the future. Just not right now.
We can win right now. But we still feel like that's somebody that we can develop, and it's going to justify that pick. Yeah, sure it's not. Cut your losses short, move on. I'm not saying you could get a whole lot for him at this point.
But why do you want to keep him around? And who are you trying to convince by saying? Or insinuating that, no, no, we still think that that's our guy, and there's something there.
Something else. See town The creep, Deshaun Watson says he is super excited. for his first start since 2024. Yeah, I'm sure to Sean. I don't know that anybody else is.
In fact, I know that nobody else is. But Here are his thoughts on making his first regular season start since October 2024 against the Jags on Sunday. That's one thing you got to control. I think I'm super excited. I'm super happy.
I'm super, you know, blessed for the opportunity that this organization gave me. And I just want to be able to capitalize on it.
So, really, right now, I'm just present in this moment, talking with you guys, getting ready for practice, and just letting the days come to me. I don't want to rush it, and I don't want it to... You know, try to drag it on. You know, I just kind of, again, enjoy each moment because I know how fast it can be taken away.
So, you know, I just continue to just focus on my present. I mean, it's definitely good. I mean, I don't know if I can rank it. Rank it anywhere, but I mean, like I said before, it's a blessing, it's a great opportunity to have this, you know. this chance this year and you know I want to take full advantage of it.
You don't know if you can rank it? I can rank it. I can rank it among the things that I am the least interested in in my entire life. Seeing your first start since 2024 against the Jags. Have fun with that.
Dude, I'm glad that you're having such a good time with it. It seems like all of Sea Town is miserable about it. But as long as you're having fun. My man, could he have strung together any more clichés than he did? Man, you better prove it on the field.
Anyway, they're big dogs, and understandably, in that game. That's Cleveland and Jacksonville. I noticed this morning, and whenever I see this on X, I'm always concerned. I noticed that Delante West was trending and I thought to myself, oh no. Oh no.
That's never good news. Because inevitably, and Delante, you know that we have history with Delante. And Delante, back in the day when I hosted Jim Romans Burning, we had a segment called The Correspondent, and we had players and coaches, and we would send a camera crew out, and they would spend time. And it would always depend on how much access you could get.
Sometimes a school or a team. would give you hours. And give you free rein.
Sometimes they literally would say, you have an hour. Or even worse, you have a half hour, or you have 15 minutes.
So we never knew exactly what we were going to get. And Delante West, when he played with the Cavaliers, did one of the greatest correspondent pieces ever. It's on YouTube, and I've reset it over the years on this program. We know that when Delante retired, he fell upon very, very hard times. Very hard times.
You know, mental health issues, substance abuse issues. Homeless Really ill. And whenever somebody came across him in the streets and had a phone. They couldn't wait to rush to the Internet to post it, and it was always so sad. And depressing.
So when I saw this on X earlier today, Delante West trending, I thought inevitably, oh no. Here we go again, but it was just the opposite. Check this out. Hoop Central. Delante West's I G Story Enjoying life, 10 months sober.
riding around Florida on a bike in his old Boston Celtics jersey, loved to see it. And actually looks great. Just riding around on his bike. Rocking his Celtics gear. And apparently the story is A streamer went to him, a young streamer.
A 21-year-old kid. Went to Delante, they somehow ran into each other, or they met up somewhere, somehow, and reportedly. This streamer gave him fifty thousand dollars. A phone And a setup. and set him up as a streamer.
and told him you have an account. All you have to do, like when you're feeling it. Just show up. Just crack open the mic and just stream. Just vibe.
And stream. At that point in his time, I don't know where he was in sobriety. But that helped him get back on his feet. And and I'm just going by the reports that I've seen today. I haven't watched the stream.
I haven't seen anything. I'm only watching this IG story right now where he's just cruising down the street on a bike. He's got a vibing, he's got his headphones on. Looks much better than he has in the past.
So hopefully that's it. I mean, hopefully what I'm saying is hopefully it is what it appears. Hopefully it's really good news. And he is 10 months sober.
So I was very happy to see that because whenever I see Delante West, and I love Delante, whenever I see him trending on X, that's never a good sign. But today it was. Today was actually something positive. Very player. And of course not everybody was so happy to see it, but I was.
Back to the chat. Squats the toad. JJ! You're not good! At all.
Aaron in Iowa. I think J.J. Sportmo is probably a better quarterback than J.J. in Minnesota. Dude, he's number three on the dev chart.
He couldn't beat out Carson Wentz. JJ Sportmo might be better. They should compete. At World of One. Delante riding around on his bike.
and you know he has some hot sauce in his bag. I hope hot sauce in my bag hot sauce in my bag hot sauce in my bag hot sauce in my bag At Glen Echo Phantoms War Bums. Wearing discarded Watson jerseys in twenty twenty seven. Hey, Deshaun, you know, you can show up and talk about how blessed you are, how excited you are, that you're not even gonna be able to rank what this is, but you know what? Nobody's hearing that.
Cleveland's not hearing that. Because they can't unhear what you said about them when they booed you. That's what they're hearing. They're not hearing any of this. Just as they can't get over the fact that not only did you lob them the bird, but the very next day they named you starter.
Yeah, that's Good luck turning any of this around. CDOT's Nemesis. If you're getting ready for work this morning, You're probably not the second clock. If you're getting ready for work right now, I'm not convinced of that. I don't think they're getting rid of the second clock there at the Big Ten.
I think they're going to have it at the ready for the next time they need it. Why are they getting rid of it? Because the NCAA stepped in? Because the NCAA said we have a protocol? Because the NCAA said we have one uniform clock?
Since, when does anybody give a damn what the NCAA says or does? Whenever the NCAA rules on something And somebody doesn't like it, they go find some friendly judge and they go to court. That's why it's so hilarious that the NCAA came rushing in to say, nope, we have only one clock. Oh.
So, you mean Western Michigan won that game then, right? If you have a protocol, and if the protocol were followed, Then they would have won that game.
So they actually did win that game, right?
Well So then give them the win. Yeah, well we we can't do that.
So why are you even talking? Kevin W, nine two five two. I'm gonna take you to the bank. Senator Kennedy. The Ham Sandwich Bank.
I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood pain. Will be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich. Florida man's got nothing on Louisiana Man. Louisiana man is on an all-time heater.
Louisiana politician. Louisiana administrator. But Senator Kennedy Going to the ham sandwich bank. My man's going to any damn bank he wants. As he said, I've got rocks on my driveway that are smarter than that.
The SEC ain't gonna throw rocks in my driveway that are smarter than that. You got that SEC? The Senator has got rocks in his driveway, smarter than all of you chancellors and presidents that think you're going to collude to throw LSU out the conference. That's not happening. We'll be on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
Smack. This guy had absolutely no qualms about going right to Bumsmack. If they try and do that to us, we will be like a hobo on a ham sandwich. That is some kind of analogy, man. That is some kind of example.
We will be like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I guess that means They're not throwing LSU out of the conference. Like he said. That's why God Invented the courts. That's why God invented Ham Sandoz.
For hobos. Cut it, OJ. Yeah, the SEC is not throwing them out of the conference. That's not happening. Especially since, as I mentioned, they back the hell down.
Super J5, quote, glad to hear that about Delante, but would he pass the ham sandwich test? Can you not be happy for somebody? This is what I'm saying. On a ham sandwich. Can you not be happy for a guy who's been to hell and back?
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. All his fault, I know. Yeah, but he's done the work and seemingly has come back. Hour number three next.