Song Of The Summer

So glad to have you! On a Wednesday drive, you are listening to WSJS Newstalk Sports for the Triad, where at long last, we finally have the matchups for the inaugural ACC SCC Basketball Challenge that's going to be played in late November. Now, as exciting as a few of these matchups will be for hoop hardcores like you and me, there really isn't anything all that captivating for casuals out there, casual basketball fans.

And that's really an unfortunate thing. We'll never know how much ESPN is truly responsible for the headlines or for the matchups that are given out and how much of it is the ACC or the SCC. But whoever is in charge made a giant mistake with Duke. This is the first ever ACC SCC Challenge and you're gonna send the Blue Devils to Arkansas?

That's what you're going to do. The Blue Devils matchup was always going to be the most important because Duke is the greatest brand in college hoops right now. To put that in perspective, Kentucky, who's a Blue Blood, has a tremendous following. I'm quite familiar with Kentucky fans. Big Blue Nation, we know what they're about.

There are a lot of them, right? Kentucky Basketball's Twitter account has 850,000 followers. That's the type of following Kentucky has.

And that is substantial. Duke's got 2.2 million. Duke's just on a different level in terms of how big their brand is. And Duke this year is either going to be number one or number two in the preseason poll when it comes out. So you have a huge opportunity to get this event off the ground and match Duke up with somebody that will create something that even the casual sports fan, casual basketball fan, will care about in November.

And you decide to send them to Arkansas. Tennessee and Kentucky were sitting right there. It could have been a rematch if you faced the vols of a round of 32 NCAA tournament game in Orlando. And it would have been a legit revenge game considering Duke has four starters back that had their season end at the hands of the volunteers. And Kentucky, you had a chance for history.

No champions, classic matchup between the two. So it was sitting right there for you to take advantage of. Kentucky hasn't been to Cameron since 1958. John Calipari is going to be a Hall of Fame coach. In fact, he might already be a Hall of Fame coach. Yet he's never coached at Cameron Indoor Stadium before. You could have had that opportunity.

You could have had that for everyone. Instead, you got a So So Carolina team hosting Tennessee and Miami who made the Final Four, but not much of a national brand going to Rupp Arena. Arkansas, and to be clear, as a basketball fan, I'm going to devour all of this.

If you're listening to my voice right now, odds are you're going to do the same. I'm talking about for the folks who don't listen to Josh Graham every day. Who don't really, don't pull the sports, if people still do this, pull the sports section out of the newspaper to read that every day. I'm talking about the casual folks that might be roped into Duke facing Tennessee or Duke facing Kentucky that probably aren't going to be compelled to watch them go to Fayetteville. They're a fine opponent, but they are still losing three NBA players. Two of them that were drafted, including Nick Smith Jr., the second first rounder that the Hornets took. They're going to be able to replace that talent with some guys in the portal, Eric Busselman, dating back to his time at Nevada where he pulled the Davie County boys from NC State, Caleb and Cody, got them to go to Nevada.

He's always been pretty good in the portal. They're probably going to be a top 15 team. It is the 30 year anniversary of this season, of Arkansas and Nolan Richardson winning the national championship against Duke. So that is relevant to this as well, but it still feels like a massive opportunity to send Duke to Arkansas for the inaugural ACC SCC Challenge.

On Twitter, at WSJS Radio, if you want in on today's show, 336-777-1600 is the phone number if you want in that way, like Dave and Clemons does. Dave, what was your reaction to the ACC SCC Challenge matchups? What's up, JG? I wanted to see Duke in Kentucky. Yeah, you, me, your mom, your sister, everybody would be there for that matchup.

Everybody's there. Yeah, and Josh, the last, over the last 10 years, the top two schools to put dudes into the league, into the NBA. Number two is Duke. Number one is Kentucky. And here's the thing, they do play, they do play each other, but they don't play each other on campus. So that could have been something cool to kick off this event, tip off this event, to have Calipari there for the first time. Yes, yes. Give me some college game day. Give me a little Kentucky, some Duke tradition. Give me all of that.

I want to consume all of it. Yeah, you and me both. There's Dave and Clemons.

I think most people agree with that too. Will Dalton, as I mentioned, the executive producer of the show, shout out to B. Dot.

You and B. Dot I'm sure had a little bit of fun yesterday. Oh, absolutely.

It was an 11 on a scale of one to 10. Pretty good stuff. Appreciate him filling in and having decent guests like Chris Paul join the show.

Shifting things a bit though. The third episode of the Panthers online series, the blueprint dropped last night, which might be a jab at Matt Ruhl. He had the infamous Jay Z quote, takes seven years and Jay Z had the blueprint album. I wouldn't hold it past the Panthers for that to be related, but the third episode was great.

45 minutes. It got into the decisions on draft day and it got into how the Panthers traded up as well. There are three big discoveries that came from this.

Things that I did not know and maybe you didn't know either. And let's start with if the Panthers didn't take John of the Mingo with the number 39 pick, they would have gone offensive line. More specifically, they would have taken Syracuse tackle Matthew Bergeron.

Here's some of the blueprint episode three that dropped yesterday where Scott Fitterer is saying as much. It's Mingo Bergeron. We're probably going to pick. We have three choices. Mingo is our first choice of those three. So we were really nervous while we're on the clock. Usually I don't get too nervous because we have options, but we saw that there's a little shelf in there. Mingo is there.

And so it was kind of like a real relief. I'd love to know who that third player is. Odds are they were taken between picks 33 and 38. The third guy they would have taken. Tight end feels like a need. You had the Iowa tight end and Matthew Mayer from Notre Dango early in the second round. I doubt it's Will Lettice, but it would have had a strong ripple effect if Atlanta went receiver, let's say with Mingo. So they were forced to draft Bergeron. Or if they had the choice between the two and like Bergeron more, that likely would have meant you don't take Zavala in the fourth round. You might not trade up to go edge rusher if you feel like you have to go receiver in the draft. So the fact that it fell this way changed the draft for Carolina.

If it would have gone differently, obviously it would have been a totally different draft at the Panthers. Frank Reich speaking of the DJ Johnson move to move up, he kind of spoke it into existence. Here he was right after they turned in the card on round three, taking the Oregon rusher. It was on the board and they showed a picture of it that said DJ Johnson, you'd have to move up to take him in the hypothetical that they had done. That's a guy who's probably going to get a chance to compete for a starting job since there is that hole across from Brian Burns who the second rusher is going to be. And the last thing we learned, Scott Fitterer, apparently a pop culture maven, recommending movies to WD and proving that he was qualified to do so when David Tepper was quizzing his movie knowledge.

WD, have you ever seen stripes? Well, that's what I thought. Scott did make a bachelor reference, which I appreciate it too. You and I together watching the first episode of the bachelorette, the premiere.

Here's how that sounded when Frank Reich referred to draft day, feeling a lot like wedding day. He's a cool guy. Well, you accept this rose noted movie guy and bachelorette fan, Scott Fitterer Panthers GM pretty big NFL headline developing today where a couple of Colts players a kick returner called Isaiah Rogers. And I guess it's just him that is looking to be suspended expected to receive a season long suspended suspension, excuse me, coming down the pike. That's according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, just the latest in terms of violations of the gambling policy.

He acknowledged on social media earlier this month that he accepts full responsibility for his actions. The key rules that the NFL is emphasizing in relation to gambling. Number one, don't bet on the NFL ever.

No exceptions to that. Number two, don't gamble at the team facility on any other sport while traveling for a road game as well, or staying at a team hotel. Number three, don't have someone place a bet for you. Number four, don't share team inside information with anybody. Number five, don't enter a sportsbook during the playing season. Don't walk into those, even though I might get a bit hairy when there are sportsbooks inside NFL stadiums.

And number six, don't play daily fantasy football emphasis on daily. So another NFL player looking to face a season long suspension the same way that Calvin Ridley did. Was that last year or was that two years ago? That was last year.

Last year. That's not very good. No.

So how about we improve morale in this segment and in this studio and across the triad by playing weekly positivity right now. Oh, yeah. 1,100 men went into the water.

376 men came out of the water. Hi, Will. Hi, Josh. That was from Jaws. Yeah. Wow.

You watch that for the first time and then you're going to watch old school. That's right. It's going to be a good couple of weeks or a good couple of weeks. If you would like tickets to go see any of the three following shows. John Anderson and the Kentucky Headhunters, which is for Friday, July 21st.

And there's a strong chance that Josh Graham is going to be there. Winston-Salem Fairgrounds Annex. If you'd like to see that show or Tears for Fears, who will be in Raleigh not this Saturday, but the Saturday following. Or you'd like to see Trippie Redd, who's going to be in either Charlotte or Raleigh, your choice of city in September.

336-777-1600. Give us a call and all you got to do is tell us something good. I'll get us started by telling you about a nice day that I had to myself yesterday.

A lot of people, because of you and B. Dot, telling people that I was sick or hungover or other nonsense that wasn't true. A lot of people checked in to see if I was doing okay or doing good.

And I was. I just had what some people described to be a stay-cation. Not a vacation where you leave to go somewhere, but a stay-cation where you remain at your home and you just relax. I watched a couple of movies yesterday. I watched Proof of Life with Russell Crowe and Meg Ryan, Willa the dog liked that one. Went on a couple walks with Willa, took her to a dog park.

Might have been the same one as that Josh and Clemens fella from yesterday. And then we watched The Breakfast Club. Willa wasn't as big of a fan as that.

I don't like that. Cooked dinner and invited WD over to watch The Bachelorette. That was my stay-cation. And it was super relaxing.

I'd been to the NSMA every year since 2015 and the day after I never work because I am up usually super late and a lot of work goes into the show to broadcast from there so I just take a day for me. A stay-cation. Yeah, stay-cation.

336-777-1600 is the phone number. Let's go to Kyle the Amazon driver. Hi Kyle. Hello Josh. Hi. How are you? Oh I am.

Let me try to think of a good word for it. Good. That's good.

I'm glad to hear you're feeling well because I thought that might have been, that was a strange call Josh from the dog park but I realized his voice seemed a little bit too deep to be yours. Yeah. Weird dude. Yeah.

Yeah weird dude. So it was either you or not you. It doesn't matter but that guy probably wasn't 100% all there. Speaking of not being 100% all there, Josh you remember I sprained my wrist pretty bad bowling a while back ago.

You remember this? It was a gruesome bowling injury you had. Did you have the proper equipment on when you were bowling that day?

Oh I did not. I thought I was still 16 years old out there ripping it but I bring that up to bring this up. Last night I went bowling and I've been doing this two-handed style to take some of the pressure off my wrist just to kind of keep going with what I've been doing and for some reason I don't know why naturally last night my second hand just came off the ball and I started throwing one-handed again. Wow. Oh Josh let me tell you 11 strikes in a row later I shot a 277. That's more than good.

11 in a row. Wow. That is great. How did you celebrate? What did you do afterwards?

I went home and I ate Hot Pockets and drank a canned Pepsi and played video games. That's incredible. PGA. Thank you Kyle the Amazon driver. There he goes.

Wow 276. He's good at that. Good at that. And I bet you it was a pepperoni hot pocket too.

I wanted to find out. Well we got to go to Tim in Knoxville. I almost said Knoxville.

I didn't mean that. Hi Tim in Knoxville. Tell me something good. Hello Josh.

Hi. I'm going to my cousin's July the 4th party on Tuesday and that's good. That is on the 4th.

Yeah the 4th is on a Tuesday. So I'm looking forward to the party spending time with my cousin at the pool. What are you bringing to the party Tim? Probably some corn. Some of the fresh corn on the cob. Okay I was about to say we're not talking about like shucked corn we're talking about on the cob. Are you going to cook that corn on the cob at all?

Like how do you prepare? Are you rubbing some butter on it? What are we doing here Tim? Yes that's good.

We're going to boil it and we're going to put butter and salt on it and it's going to be good. Thanks for the call Tim. I don't know why that sounded oddly sexual. It did.

I didn't mean for it to. That's how I talk sometimes. You want to tell me something good on the way out?

I'd love to. Well for starters I finally met Bob Ryan for the first time or at least got to meet him in person the other night. Yeah.

And Ian Eagle. Yeah. And I got to see Randolph Childress. We had some old fashions together. But this morning I went to the dentist.

Didn't have any cavities. But. So that's good. But. Well there is no but. Okay.

But because I went to the dentist and it was such an early appointment I got to go have breakfast at my parents this morning in High Point and I had a cinnamon a brown sugar cinnamon bagel from Panera and it was delicious and good. And that's been weekly. Your attention please. This is the drive with Josh Graham. This is all I'm going to say to Carolina fans who on social media are objecting to the idea that Carolina is a so so team this year for their standard. As I said earlier in the show or might object to them being a top 15 team. What have they added specifically this offseason that makes you think they are going to be substantially better. Which is what would be required in order for a team that missed the tournament last year to be a top 15 team. If you believe that answer is addition by subtraction not having Caleb Love I will remind you Caleb Love led the team in scoring last year. We'll see how that scoring is replaced.

Just throwing that out there. There's a chance he might have been scapegoated and a lot of the things that are thrown at Caleb Love might not all be Caleb Love's fault. If you say Elliot Cadeau. Let's not forget he is not a normal freshman. He's a reclassified freshman.

That means he's really young. Look at Tyrese Proctor last year at Duke. He was pretty good early on defensively but a lot bigger build than Elliot Cadeau.

The scoring didn't come until the final month of the season. So that's what you should expect for Cadeau in a best case scenario. That he starts to figure it out as the season goes on you shouldn't be looking to him in year one to be a savior. That's probably a multi-year deal that you're looking at with Cadeau. Not a one and done guy in all likelihood.

So probably not the game changing type. If you're going to say any of the other transfers I'll ask you this question. How many of those transfers played in the NCAA tournament last year? Cormac Ryan didn't. Jalen Withers certainly didn't at Louisville. Harrison Ingram didn't at Stanford. Paxson Wojcik didn't at Brown. None of them did. So there's a chance.

Well not even a chance. I think Carolina's entire roster missed the NCAA tournament last year. All of them missed the NCAA tournament. And the only one with a good excuse for missing the tournament is Elliot Cadeau. So spare me the oh well ESPN says they're ranked 15th in their rankings. Okay where did ESPN have them going into last year? Spare me all of that.

I need to see it first. And it's fair, more than fair, to say that this is a so-so Carolina team for their standard. They're going to be better.

I do buy that. I think they're an NCAA tournament team. I think they're going to win a game in a tournament.

But let's stay on planet earth when talking about expectations beyond that. Their opponent in the ACCSCC Challenge is Tennessee. Coming to the Smith Center. And for the locals, W.D., Carolina, Tennessee, that is the one silver lining that we have with the ACCSCC Challenge. The other three matchups that we got, pretty underwhelming. Wake and Florida. What ties are there between Wake and Florida? Ty Appleby Bowl, I guess. Even though Ty Appleby is no longer at Wake for us. Yeah they're a year late on that one. Or a year too late on the Jarkel Joiner Bowl too. NC State and Ole Miss.

A year too late there. Chris Beard's back though. Cool. Duke and Arkansas. That's fine. It's going to be a pretty big game.

Okay. Prime time. Yeah baby. We're going down to Fayetteville.

Pig suey and all that. But it could've been Kentucky. It could've been even Tennessee for Duke.

It just seems a bit underwhelming. It could've been Bama. Roll Tide. North Carolina, Tennessee is going to be the marquee game of this challenge. With respect to Miami and Kentucky, which is going to be a pretty good game, but that is definitely a so-so Kentucky team.

Going to tick off all the blue bloods today. Kentucky, yeah well, you didn't get out of Greensboro this past year. You lost in a 215 to St. Peters the year before that and you missed the tournament the year before that.

And lost a lot of guys this offseason including Oscar Sibley who did not get drafted. Things are not great in Big Blue Nation right now. They're going to be hosting Miami, not the most traditional basketball power but fresh off of Final Four. Basketball fans will love that but nationally speaking probably not going to have the greatest appeal. Tennessee North Carolina has fan bases that are national fan bases that do care about college basketball. It's a huge building that will be chocked full of Carolina Blue fans. It's not a 9 o'clock tip in the middle of the week.

It's a 715 tip. Tennessee fans will travel for that too. There are a lot of Tennessee fans in the area listening to my voice right now. Yeah, so that'll be a massive game.

And there's some history. This is the fourth time ever that Tennessee is going to visit Chapel Hill. Just the second time at the Smith Center. The other time was in 2016. This is the crazy stat with Tennessee playing in Chapel Hill. The first two times that Tennessee went to Chapel Hill to face the Tar Heels. Not at Carmichael. I already said they've only been once to the Smith Center.

This will be the second. 1918 playing in Bynum Gym and then in the 40s at Woolen Gym. Those are the other two times Tennessee's ever played in Chapel Hill. And then of course you have the old Rick Barnes, Dean Smith angle. Rick Barnes who was just inducted into the North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame, the Hickory native. In the 90s he was thrown out of a game complaining about foul disparity or free throw disparity and Carolina getting preferential treatment. Then they played in the NCAA tournament. Hard foul against Jerry Stackhouse.

There was some yelling at players that maybe you shouldn't have yelled at because they're not on your team. And then suddenly Rick Barnes and Dean Smith are face to face in Greensboro. Yeah. Nose to nose in Greensboro. That's gonna be brought up quite a bit when that matchup nears. But that's the one silver lining that we have in the challenge.

Shifting things. Shout out to Chris Paul. He joined the show yesterday. Even though I wasn't hosting for that conversation. Thanks for pointing that out on the interview yesterday Bdot. Dang Josh. My bad.

It's okay Chris. We're cool. Thought this was a really good answer when talking about his excitement playing for the Warriors. This is one of the first interviews he gave since being traded to the Golden State Warriors.

Bdot conducting it and here he was on WSJS. Obviously it's different. That's a team I've been going against for the last, I don't know, 12 years. You know what I mean?

Consistently. Everybody got all these questions about this and that. You know, I didn't play 18 years. You know what I mean? To be frank with you, I've been playing since I was four. So I put that around by like 34 years. That far. I've been playing this game a long time, man.

So I like my chances of figuring this thing out. The key in order to figure it out, Chris Paul with staff and company, it's going to be preservation. It bothers me when you have the 20 year old types in the NBA talking about load management. I'm fine with it when you talk about Chris Paul is going to turn 39 next year.

That's going to be the key for the Warriors. For the first time in Chris's career, he should not be playing 30 minutes a game. This guy's played as he said, 18 years, right? He's playing more than 30 a game. I don't think he's played less than 31 minutes a game. In the regular season, he should float around 25, if that.

That's where he should be. He should never play back to backs. And the way they should do it, you shouldn't ever see in the first half, Chris Paul on the floor at the same time as Steph Curry.

That's how I feel. And then the second half, you stagger them too until you get the crunch time. That's when you could start to put the guys together because if you stagger it that way, you can keep Chris fresh and probably keep Steph fresh as well, depending on how you play it. They should be able to get away with this in the West. I don't think there were top four seed in the West, at least not in the regular season. The Nuggets, the champions for a reason. The Lakers, best record in the league in the second half of the year got to the Western Conference Finals.

They have some guy named LeBron James. You got Phoenix. We'll put them there. I really like Sacramento, top three seed last year and they are pointing up. I put Golden State in that group with Dallas, who's going to bounce back. I put them in that group with Memphis, with John Marant being suspended the first 25 games. They're going to float around the middle of the West, the Clippers, maybe OKC. You got to finish better than a couple of them to be in the five or the six spot, stay out of the play. And I think they should be able to do that. But the expectations are the same for Golden State as they are Chris.

The definition of success is the same. Title or nothing, because that's the only thing Chris hasn't done yet. And for Golden State, they've won so many that anything less feels uncomfortable to celebrate.

But that's the key preservation for Chris Paul. What's been the song of the summer for 2023? That's among the topics we'll get to when we play skips or plays with our friend Hayes Permar next on the drive. Permar had my brain work in the day when he asked me and asked his followers as well what the song of the summer was today. Because when you go through the songs of the summer year after year after year, there generally is a way that you can measure this when you see billboard charts, what the number one song was, even 55, 60 years ago. Like we're giving away tickets for Tears for Fears.

There was a time where Shout was the song of the 80s in the mid 80s, probably 85 or 86 that would qualify. We still have tickets to that. WD, you have that drop of me singing John Anderson. We don't have any more John Anderson tickets to give away. But the next time you hear that, that'll be your cue to call in for some tickets that we do have. Tears for Fears, Trippie Redd, we have tickets to those that we'll give away in a bit. And Hayes Permar joins us now.

Hi Hayes. Can I give Will Dalton the sounder of me singing John Anderson to the people who win tickets? All right, yeah, let's do that.

Actually, no, no, no, no, no. Can you give me some Tears for Fears that we could potentially use? Because we're going to be giving away Tears for Fears tickets. My favorite Tears for Fears song is a hard one to sing. Actually, a lot of their songs are hard to sing.

They got a lot of range in there. Give it your best shot. I wanted to do a, don't ask her on a straight tequila night.

But you want, everybody wants to rule the world. All right. The next time you hear that, that'll be your chance to win Tears for Fears tickets or Trippie Redd in just a little bit. Before we get into the song of the summer conversation, because it was a good question you asked on social media earlier today. I didn't really have a great answer when usually this time of year, we do have great answers to that. The ACC SEC challenge matchups dropped today. So I'm just going to throw them at you for each of the locals and you give me a brief reaction to it based on how that local fan base should feel. And we'll start with Wake Forest in Florida in Winston-Salem, the Gators visiting the Joel. How should Wake Forest fans feel? Um, then you feel, I guess they feel like Florida got their college world series title. And so they want to go take it back. No, it feels like, um, it feels like, I guess whenever you played the big 10, if you were played like Minnesota or Northwestern, it kind of said something about you as a program.

Cause that's probably what people thought of you. The FCC, there's a little bit less of that, but, uh, but playing Florida, getting paired against Florida is a big time game. I don't know exactly how good Florida was last year, but they're thought of as a big time program. So I think Wake Forest fans should not be angry. I'm not saying they should be happy.

I'm just saying they should be not angry about it. Syracuse is facing LSU. How did, come on, missed opportunity. You could have had LSU Wake Forest in basketball. That would have been, that would have been perfect.

A missed opportunity there. NC State Ole Miss in Oxford. Um, these are like kindred spirits, right? These programs look at each other and they're like, I know you, uh, we, we feel like we, uh, we're one of the same.

No, I disagree. I think NC State's a lot like Mississippi State because, and then you got Ole Miss, who's a lot like Carolina. I mean, you see the way Ole Miss grads dress. I know, but I'm talking about in terms of like classes, the SEC, I think of like, uh, and then I guess Southern myths would be like ECU in this analogy.

That's a hundred percent right. If you've ever been to Hattiesburg, but here's the whole point is because of the, the, the way the educational systems in North Carolina line up against Mississippi, you don't go like one to one, right? UNC lines up against something that doesn't exist in Mississippi, right? Like they don't have, and then Mississippi state lines up with Ole Miss ECU lines up with Mississippi state. And then like, I don't know, uh, Forsythe tech lines up with Southern myths.

I'm not sure exactly how that, how that works. No, no disrespect to Forsythe tech. I'm just, I was trying to go one, one tier lower. I like it.

I appreciate that. Tennessee heading to the Smith center to face North Carolina. I think the, your, the set up here is you're trying to get me to be like North Carolina fans to be fired up to boo Rick Barnes and yell at him and tell him how much he stinks. But like, had Rick Barnes been there a few times since he left Clemson?

Yeah. Like I feel like he was there twice with Texas. He's been there and did he come with Tennessee too? I don't know if he was there. I don't know if he was there in 2016.

I'll double check. Um, but yeah, it just feels like, I know it's easy to tell the story. He was there. He was there in 2016.

Yeah. So he's been there three times already. Like it's easy to tell the stories to your grandkids about why you hate Rick Barnes, but to me it's a lot harder to like actually hate North Carolina native Rick Barnes. Who's got a pretty decent coaching career. Rick Barnes is one of those guys where like, if he just, if he won one title, then his entire career like falls in line and looks like a much better career than it does without a title. I mean, you can say that about anybody getting a title, but um, who's not thinking of him like a Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlisle was like around the NBA for a long time and never thought it was great. And then he won that title with the mass and all of a sudden you were like, you know, he's always been pretty good. I feel like Rick Barnes is kind of like that. Like if he won a title, he'd be like, you know what? He's been pretty good all the time. It's hard to win a title.

And now he's got that too. Rick Barnes is a good coach. Last one Duke heading to Arkansas. Duke should be, I'm going to say Duke should be mad. They're not playing Kentucky, but like it's going to be hard to get UNC or Duke against Kentucky and these ACC SEC challenges because they play each other in the like champions classic and that's why it's a missed opportunity. Like this year, they're not playing in that challenge.

And it's like, this is the first year of the event. How do you not have the superpowers play each other in Cameron since John Calipari has never coached there. It just feels like a missed opportunity. And you know, you know that on the sneak, I mean, there was always the like coach case that he was never going to play Maryland and then magically they just never got paired up with them. Even after mailing with the big 10. And you, you get the stint that probably coaches and or programs and especially coaches and or programs with more prestige probably get to put in like a don't ever tell anybody, but we don't, we're not going to do this matchup. And there's a decent chance that Duke had said, we're not going to do at rough and Kentucky has said, we're not going to do at Cameron. So it very well could be that that never works out and we never hear that it's an official thing, but in reality, it might not ever come to be. Yeah.

If Caleb Love went to Missouri, I guarantee you that team would have been the team that North Carolina threw in that pot. Hey, by the way, please. No, let's let's not do that.

Okay. Time to talk song of the summer where WD has three songs. He thinks could be the song of the summer this year to throw it Hayes per more. So this is like a legitimate skips or plays with Hayes for Hayes to figure out whether or not it's a play for the summer song of the summer, or if it's a skip. Here we go. He's permari somewhat of a Renaissance man, an expert in the finer things, but he hangs his hat on music loves his God.

And he's the friend of Satan. He was like, Oh, six in busy with the sticks. Been watching big Mike and little trick trip. I just need his eye on and someone he can dunk on today. Hayes will decide if this music is smash or trash blows or blows.

It's time for skips or plays with Hayes. I'm fascinated to see what you came up with WD. You're not great when things we're talking about things before you were born, but you are pretty good when it comes to today's pop culture. So let's see what the first song you have for Hayes permari. Well, I didn't want to real quick, real quick before we do that, you know what else will Dalton isn't good at what picking restaurants. This man had the audacity on Twitter and tell me about how to feel about a restaurant in my city, Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm just saying next time you come to town, young will. Yes.

Let me know. And I'll take you to 20 restaurants better than the one that you think is so good. I knew it was a bold word, but I like it. I'll take you to a good restaurant next time you come to Raleigh. Yeah, that's wow.

I'm just already, my hand is shaking at the idea of doing that to Hayes permari. Okay. What's the first song?

So I didn't want to go too basic. I wanted to be kind of interesting here, but I do think these are some bangers. So we're going to start off with some Jonas brothers. I think, you know, where we're going here.

Waffle house. Now this isn't, if you think it's the greatest song it's, do you think this is the song of the summer? I hear this song literally everywhere. That's funny. I don't think I've heard it much.

Uh, but I'm also more disconnected than ever these days. It's got a couple of things going for it. Like it name checks something that already has cultural relevance before the song.

So people are like, Oh, waffle house. Right. And then it's got it. It sounds like it's got a little bit of a bop to it too.

Right. Like the only thing that I don't like about this song, and this is what I don't like sampling. What is it sampling in the chorus?

It's bothering me. It sounds like something that they're sampling. I might have to hear it again. Um, but no, overall it's got a good beat to it. I'm going to give it a play with one disclaimer.

Go ahead and give it a play. Am I wrong that I've heard that melody? I feel like I've heard that before.

I don't know from what someone's going to correct me on that. It almost sounds like a TV theme song. No, the one thing is, and there's a fine line between this, right? What you always want is somebody that's just trying to write a bop, a hot tune, and then it organically becomes the song of the summer too often. Now we have people trying to like write an upbeat melody and release it right in like April, May, like they're trying to write the song of the summer instead of just trying to write a cool song and let it become the song of the summer. So there's part of me, the wonders of Jonas brothers are trying too hard on this one by, you know, waffle house, it's quirky, it's catchy. The little bubble gum poppy beat they got going on there. But overall it's a good song.

I just reserve the right to come back and find out later that they just sat down and were like, how do we make a summer song? That does kind of sound like someone's message. Again, it sounds a little bit like Gloria. I can kind of hear that a little bit. What's the second song here? We're going to change the tone a bit here. We're going to go with some Morgan Wallen last night.

I don't know if this will influence per more positively or negatively. This is on the playlist. My playlist.

I do a 2023 playlist where just put some things together and that's on it. I don't just like the song, but I don't think it quite has. I don't think it has songs of summer shop. So that sounds like it's picking up a little bit here.

I think that's good analysis. I think the only way you're like, I'm not saying that you couldn't dance to this in the summer, but this sounds more like headlights of a car trying to steal a kiss down by the Riverside, you know, but not like dancing, dancing hard. I think you got to be able to dance a little bit harder for it to be a song of the summer.

So I'm going to skip this. And the last song to be considered for song of the summer is it's still fairly new. It's from the Barbie movie.

Dance the night, Dua Lipa. I want to hate it, but you can't, can you? It doesn't mean I like it. I just don't know if I can hate it.

I've never heard this before. I mean, it's definitely a dance track. If it's going into the Barbie movie, you know, it's getting airplay.

It's probably going to, you know, I'm going to, I'm not happy about it. And this wouldn't be my favorite song of the summer, but I'm going to give it a play. Excellent stuff.

So Haze Permar approving of a couple of songs, disapproving of one of them. I hope this was helpful to some out there that are putting together their summer. Oh wow. Three, three, six, seven, seven, seven, one, six hundred. The first two to call in, get tickets to go see Tears for Fears in Raleigh. Haze is down. He might know where some good restaurants are in Raleigh. Three, three, six, seven, seven, seven, one, six hundred. The first two to call and get tickets to go see them. Haze, thanks for the time, buddy. Thank you guys. Talk to you soon.