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July 15, 2020 6:06 pm

The Duke basketball program's future is uncertain with Coach K's potential retirement and the possibility of Brad Stevens leaving the NBA for college basketball. Meanwhile, the North Carolina Tar Heels are facing controversy over their nickname, with some calling for a change due to its Confederate connotations. The ACC is also preparing for the resumption of the college basketball season, with teams adapting to the challenges of playing in a bubble.

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We are loaded on a Wednesday drive. New Duke women's basketball coach Carol Lawson is a guest on today's show. She'll be here in 30 minutes. And ever since she was hired from the Boston Celtics over the weekend, The Brad Stevens jokes and rumors resurfaced. For those who don't know, dating back to when he was at Butler.

Both Duke and Carolina fans have had him at the top of their wish list. Potential successors for both Roy And K. Before we get to a timetable for Coach Kay, who's a few years older than Roy. I think it's about time we dismiss this rumor forever. It's a rumor, I have no issue, Robert, just shooting to Mars, and hopefully it'll never return.

I don't envision a scenario Brad leaves the NBA. to return to college basketball. For one. He's a coaching anomaly. Eleven D1 coaches in the last quarter century.

Have left their D1 head coaching jobs. to become an NBA head coach. Robert, you want to take a guess out of those 11, how many have a winning record? And the NBA. Uh let's go with one.

Two. Brad Stevens. Billy Donovan. Quite the list of coaches have failed, though. Cow, patino, Carlissimo, Hamilton.

John B. Line. But Brad He's been great. Went to the Eastern Conference finals a few years ago. Might get there again in the bubble.

More on that in a little bit. Also, there's no precedent For successful pro coaches, I don't care what sport you're talking about. going back to college. Dick Sabin. We didn't really get a chance to see him blossom.

In the NFL. He was in Miami for a few years, had a 500 record before being offered the Alabama job. A recent example, Bobby Petrino, he quit at the end of the year in Atlanta. things weren't going well for. his Falcons at that time.

There are a lot of train wrecks you can cite. Not many examples. Successful pro coach going back to college. You have Jim Harbaugh. But even Harbaugh was fired.

with the 49ers after taking them to the Super Bowl nearly a decade ago. Plus, let's consider. Not every pro job is the same. You can't tell me, coaching the Charlotte Hornets, Is the same thing as coaching the Boston Celtics. If Stevens was the Hornets coach, made the playoffs at the same rate Steve Clifford did.

Okay, maybe I can envision that guy going back to college. But play him for the Celtics? How many brands in the NBA are bigger than the Boston Celtics. It's the Lakers and that's it. The Lakers, then it's the Celtics.

You're not going to leave that level of history. But the biggest reason why. I don't think Brad Stevens would ever leave. The NBA to go back to college. He's an X's and O's coach.

not the charismatic salesman type. He wasn't when he was at Butler. His style was I'm going to win with what I have. I'm gonna be resourceful. It's the only way you can win at Butler.

It's about developing. The only way you can go to the final four back-to-back years at Butler. is if you're a tremendous X's and O's coach and a tremendous developer of talent. That's what Stevens is. At Duken, North Carolina.

The brand will recruit itself. You're going to bring in higher talent than you would at Butler, so he would win. But if you're trying to bring in the one and done, There's a certain type of personality you need to have. to be the elite college recruiter. He doesn't have to worry about recruiting in the NBA.

I think that's a huge plus. When Joe Brady left LSU to go to the Panthers, I was told by a handful of people that knew him closely at LSU You know what? He just wasn't really a great fit for college. In college, he was successful. But He lamented that having to go in the recruiting trail.

Don't overestimate. Or maybe I should put it this way. Don't underestimate how little. Coaches want to uh spend time talking to 16-year-olds. Like I don't know about you, but If I I could just worry about coaching ball.

versus having to talk to 16-year-olds and babysit. Kids who are 18 and 19 living in dorms. I'd probably lean towards the professional route. I I was pretty good friends with Colin Kaeperdick's quarterbacks coach, Steve Logan, who used to be at East Carolina. And I remember talking to him about Colin while everything was happening in 2016.

See you in. Just how divisive that was in the locker room. And he said it wasn't at all because in the professional ranks. When you step into the building, it's all business. Yeah, he did what he did before he stepped on the field, but in the professional ranks, I don't have to babysit you.

I don't have to worry about what you're doing outside of the facility. When you step here, you're on my time, you're getting paid for your time, and you're getting paid to execute what we draw up. Brad Stevens, exes and O's coach, not the charismatic recruiter, wasn't even that when he was at Butler.

So I don't think. He's gonna have That itch. To go back to college, even if it's for Duke in North Carolina. I don't see Duke going heavy after him whenever Coach K's time is. There's just too many great candidates.

That have strong ties to Duke. I think they're going to try and keep it in the family or keep it in the brotherhood, I guess. North Carolina is another story though. Not a lot of great candidates. who played for Roy or was an assistant for Roy Williams.

Like I would be surprised if they promoted from within. To Hubert Davis or Steve Robinson. I really would in 2020 or at any point of the 2020s. Wes Miller, he still needs to get it. Done at a major conference school with all due respect to UNC Greensboro.

So, North Carolina might make a run at him. I don't think they get him. I don't see Duke doing that. And while we're talking about Duke, One of the more popular questions I get. When I'm a guest on radio shows or when people want to talk about the ACC.

It's usually How much longer does Coach K have? And the last few years, it was very difficult to answer that question. It got to the point where I didn't even want to address it anymore. But. I think we have something.

to point at as a potential Uh Date as a potential date Coach K might be targeting to end his Duke career.

Now, this isn't based on any information I was given. But It's just a fact. That his grandson is a red shirt freshman this year. I think Coach Kay Is probably going to give it at least four more years. I think four years.

is kind of what you're looking at for Coach K. at seventy three years old. His grandsons Michael Sabarino. He was redshirted last year. He's a walk-on.

Knowing how much Coach K enjoys spending time with his grandkids. I don't see him passing up the opportunity to coach him while he's at Duke. That's just a really neat opportunity. And Beyond that, I'd be surprised if he stuck around much longer. Looking at the ACC.

Alone? I mean Jim Bohem. He's going to be 76 at the start of this year. He's still going strong at Syracuse.

So I think that makes 77 obtainable. Of course, health allowing. Coach K's back in otherwise. Possibly. Have we seen any kind of a drop off from Coach K that would lead you to believe that He might even be mulling retirement.

336-777-1600 on Twitter at SportsUp Triad. I haven't seen any drop off at all. Recruiting. Still thriving in that. still benefiting off the US national team success he had.

Being great in college, being consistent. Unlike any other college program, football or basketball or even professional sports over the last 40 years, that's going to do a lot for you. Being the all-time wins leader, that's going to do a lot for you too. Coaching LeBron, coaching Kobe Bryant. Winning Olympic gold, that's just going to put you over the top for as long as you're coaching in college at this point.

So he's going to have no issue on the recruiting front, but also energy. He still has a lot of it. He's not a figurehead like Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden were at the end. Lot of energy, still pulling all the strings in the program. We know this because In both instances of Paterno and Bowden the last twenty years, they had that top assistant in place that you just knew was doing all the heavy lifting while Paterno and Bowden were older and were both figureheads.

Who would that person be for Duke? You thought maybe Jeff Capel. Got all those top recruits when they won in 2015. Recruited heavily Zion Williamson. But now Capel's been at Pittsburgh the last couple years.

K still humming along. Steve Wojahowski. Johnny Dawkins. You go through all these top assistants that Coach Case had well, they went and got their own head coaching jobs. Chris Collins.

Uh And Coach K has continued To have great levels of success. He still has a ton of energy. And I have no reason to believe. He's going to be done in the next year or two. I think he's going to want to coach his grandson at least the next four years.

I'd be surprised if he goes further than that.

So that's the most finite answer I have to how much longer Coach K might have at Duke. And In terms of replacements for Coach K or Roy Williams, I would not expect Brad Stevens to leave the NBA for college basketball again. Carol Lawson, who was hired by Brad Stevens around this time last year. Left the Orlando bubble. To take the Duke women's basketball job, Coach Lawson is going to join us at the bottom of the hour.

That's in a little less than. In 20 minutes, B Dot is going to be in the studio with us after that. But speaking of the NBA bubble, There are three teams. That I think are built well to succeed in the bubble, and three more that aren't. I'll share those with you next on the drive.

Everybody, listen up! You're on the drive with Josh Grant. I can't believe this, this is insane. The new head coach of the Duke Women's Basketball Program is Cara Lawson, and she joins us now. And I asked Robert to ask where she was at, and she says she has no idea where she's at because she's driving from Florida to get up to the state of North Carolina.

Remember, she was with the Boston Celtics inside the Orlando bubble. And that's actually where I want to start Coach Lawson because I see the entire Celtics surprising you by wearing Duke t-shirts before you were sent off. Do you have any idea whose original idea it was to do that? Because I would be surprised if it was Hayward, Taco, or even Brad. I wouldn't be surprised if it was that Jason Tatum guy.

Uh I I I think it was uh I don't know exactly the person, but I think I think it was a combination of Steve Paljucco, uh who is on the board show. for Duke, one of the Celtic owners. Um Alexa Feaster, uh who's uh vice president in the front office with the Celtics. She played college basketball at Harvard. And uh she kind of put that that thing together, kind of the going away.

Um party. And then um I would say uh Brad, I mean obviously Brad, uh, Stevens, uh our head coach so I I think it was a combination of those three. But certainly underneath the mask, I would guess that Jason Tatum's smile was the widest. She's on Twitter. Follow the new Duke coach at Carolawin20.

And I've often said when people ask, hey, what's your style in radio? You're usually somebody who's a combination of your influences. You're a combination and a mix of the people that mentored you. And you've just had tremendous people to work with. And I'm just interested what you take away from some of those people as you now take on your first head coaching job, starting with your college coach Pat Summit.

What do you want to bring to Duke? That you saw her and in her program while you're at Tennessee.

Well, I I think the competitiveness of of Pat every area for program. Uh I mean she she really enjoyed competing. And the way she can be I think We're with great class. Um with great integrity. Uh I would say that would be one of the things that, uh, that I would take from from playing for her.

building authentic relationships with players. That's something that Pat did very well. I think that's something that I do very well. Um it's something that I haven't done yet. college head coach This is my first my first time, but I think if you're a great relationship builder, you're great because.

can do it in any circumstance. And so I feel like I can do that. Before you got into coaching, you were doing a lot of television.

So I found this note to be pretty interesting. You had several opportunities in basketball, but now that you are a head coach, Do I have it right? You were once petrified of public speaking when Coach Summit Saul That you were a pretty intelligent player. Intelligent enough to be a starting point guard as a freshman and nudged you to do more uncomfortable stuff, put you in front of people. Yeah, absolutely.

That's what that's what great coaches do, right? I mean They they hone in on areas That you can improve, and then they push you to make yourself uncomfortable so that you will improve in them. And when I look at What Coach Summit did for me as a young, shy, introverted kid, what she did for me was. she gave me an opportunity for pro in that area and talked about how important communication would be to my future and talked about how important communicating Whatever I chose to To do. whether it was play coach The business.

In medicine, whatever. It is the ability to Communicate. Vital if you want to have success, if you want to maximize your potential.

So I'm very thankful that Coach Summit did that for me. And I think it's something that I very much utilize for the And I think it was something that I hope Uh working for ESPN. 16 years here in the Business of community. And so you have to figure out how you're going to get across your point to an audience that is different, that their knowledge of basketball spans a wide spectrum. And so, how do you effectively communicate to an audience that understands the game at different levels?

And getting a chance to get the repetition and do that night in and night out, I think has really helped me become a good communicator. I find Brad Stevens to be a very interesting figure. We are chatting with Carol Lawson, new Duke Basketball Duke basketball coach, by the way. Right here on Sports Hub Triad, because there are a lot of great college basketball coaches who tried to take a run at going into the NBA and have not had nearly the success that Stevens is currently having in Boston. Seeing it up close, I'm interested.

What advice has he given you? As you try to go from coaching in the NBA game to taking on your first college head coaching gig. He's given me so much great advice. And I'll be honest, like, he was vital. Uh to me, uh him and his wife Tracy might Decision-making process just because when you look at Brad and how coveted he was when he was at Butler.

I mean schools calling Every probably every year, I'm guessing. You know, every year Uh NBA team's calling. Uh him constantly being bombarded with Um going going to another place. And so to have someone with that experiential wisdom To be able to say, you know, here's kind of what my process was, here's how I evaluated opportunities. Here's what was in That doesn't mean uh My answers to those questions are carbon.

copies of his. But Just to give you a direction or a way, a philosophy of how to be thinking about all of this. Um because it it encompasses a lot of things. And it's really important that you understand the scope. of what you're deciding.

And so uh Brad um Brad allowed me to uh have the space, but also um was there when I needed to talk about things. And as far as what I'll bring from working with him. to Duke University. I gained so much through observation. um this year of him.

Obviously, I gained a lot in working with him. But I I think The power of observation, the power of sitting and watching someone as they approach their job day in and day out. I learned so many things about being consistent as a coach that I'll definitely take with me to Duke. You went into the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame last year and you shared a class with Peyton Manning, but David Cutcliffe, who's one of our favorites to chat with here on Sports Up Drive. Called you, quote.

The most significant athlete going in, end quote. And he said it might make Payton upset if he heard him say that. But I understand you have a close relationship with David Cutcliffe. There's a lot you can learn from that guy. What what do you take from him and the way that he leads that might be applicable to the way you lead the young women you're about to coach in Durham?

Yeah, you're right. Uh Coach Cut is one of the most special. teacher. that we have Uh in in uh sports. He really is.

And he's been a mentor of mine for some time. We obviously have a shared. history at the University of Tennessee. And you know, Coach Cutt is who really encouraged me to get into coaching. Um when I spent a week with this team uh four years ago uh down Allowed me to come in and observe the coaching staff, the meetings.

I worked with the, I didn't work with, but I observed. the physician physician meetings and and I I stayed there for a week. And was fully integrated as a part of the group. And so that really allowed me. Time without pressure to observe a coach in his element.

To observe a fantastic teacher, and I would say one of my Many takeaways from that. Time, although I have two yellow, yellow notepads full of notes from that time, so you know, probably go too long if I told you. Yeah. But one of my main takeaways was how adept Coach Cuck is at coaching his coaches. And I understand that football and basketball are a little bit different in that Coach Cutt manages a much larger staff than I manage, right?

Just a deep, much larger player group, much larger staff group. And so uh as a head coach You can't make every decision. As a head coach, you can't be in charge of everything. You have to delegate, but when you do delegate, You have to hold people to a standard. There has to be a standard.

So, to sit in this staff meeting and watch. Him coach his coaches as much as he coached his players. That was something that I didn't realize at the time the level of That you have to do that as a head coach. And what it also does. Is it pushes your assistants to grow and ultimately allows them, should they desire, they would have the ability to lead their own program one day too.

Follow her on Twitter at Carol Lawson20. It's the new head coach of the Duke Women's Basketball Program, Carol Lawson, with us on Sports Up Drive. Before I let you go, I I just wanna know Briefly on the NBA front. How did expectations meet reality in regards to entering the bubble, which you were in for just a short time? Oh, the bubble's fine.

Um I enjoyed it. The best part about Yeah. You got to see all your friends. Every day. And not just the players on your team, but the players on other teams and the coaches on other teams.

you know, it's very rare in our business that we're in one place a long period. Of time and that we are around each other, around our competitors like that.

So it was a lot of fun to see guys on other teams, coaches on other teams, have a chance to have conversations with them. Just really, really, really enjoyed it. I mean, listen, obviously, we haven't. restrictive measures.

So you know it's not ideal. be able to go off campus or it's not ideal. to maybe not be able to go out. to eat at a restaurant or all those things and everybody is Dealing with right now. But we were in a hotel.

We were safe. We were being tested regularly. And we were around our basketball family. To me, it was pretty cool. Coach.

Really do appreciate the time. I know you've been busy. Travel safe, and I look forward to seeing you.

Sometime down the line. Congratulations, and thanks for being with us.

Okay, awesome. Thanks so much, Austin. You got it. That's the new head coach of the Duke Women's Basketball Program, Kara Lawson. And I have a feeling I know what's coming because B dot He's stepping into the studio.

And Robert Walsh, he just started laughing very loudly at the middle. Of that interview, and what might be the low point of my broadcasting career. This is me. Professional broadcaster in the middle of that interview. We are chatting with Kara Lawson, new Duke Bass, Duke Duke basketball coach, by the way.

Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. Not great at all. I'm gonna take my lumps. B Dot's going to be in studio with us next on the drive.

I'm sorry, I'm a little winded. A lot of us talk! You're on the drive with Josh Graham on Sports Hub Triad. BDOT is joining us live in studio. I'm Iz.

And I want to get to the controversy surrounding the tar he'll name in a bit. But I don't think we can do that just yet because of what could be the lowest point of my broadcasting career. In our conversation with Carol Lawson last segment. I said this. The new Duke Ba Duke Bac Duke uh Duke.

You're not gonna play the full context of the quote. I mean, give me a second. I think we need the full context of it versus just me stammering all over myself. You just tell us. What are you trying to say right there?

I think I was trying to say Duke basketball coach. Carol Lawson. But that's me, professional broadcaster, saying this. We are chatting with Carol Lawson, new Duke Basketball Duke basketball coach, by the way. It's right here on Sports Hub Triad.

It sounds like. I got in the middle of me trying to say Duke basketball coach.

Somebody stepped into the studio and just jabbed at me with a taser. That's what this sounds like. We are chatting with Carol Lawson, New Duke Bass, Dube Back Duke basketball coach, by the way. Yo, the initial. I didn't even think about the new back.

I should have tried that. The Duke back at the beginning is what texts me now. Hold one second. Have you guys been conniving together to put music to this? No, but anything to enhance the show, I'm all for it.

And if Robbie has to be. Have you been doing something that I don't know about? Come on, Robbie. You want to hear it? Yes.

We're going to hear, bro. Hey, run that back. Yo, that J Graham and V dot is fire. Yeah, we got a hit. I can't believe it.

A new dupe back. Duke of Juke. New Duke back. Do back to Juice. A new duke back.

Duke Jupiter. I do. If you can't see yourself on the skating at the skating rink with this one, I don't know what you're doing. Yes, sir. I used to love roller skating.

I wish I could skate, man. I see people skating and it really burns my biscuits. I'm nice on the carpet, though. On the carpet, I get busy. That was my hangout spot.

Really? When I was in middle school, we used to go to Jelly Beans. Oh, you were fast, y'all. Oh, man. I did it too, but it was elementary school, Skateland, USA, in Clemens.

Wow. I used to skate. I had some inlines, too. Really? I thought I was bad, man.

Oh, man. I remember the first time I was heartbroken. There was somebody who I wanted to have a one-on-one skate with and hold hands with. Is that what it's called? I think it was like an Ashley Simpson song that was playing, and she went and skated with somebody else.

I cried in the corner. Oh, man. I was just always playing air hockey. I didn't really care about the girls at that point. That's what I was about.

I was about walking around in the games and that kind of thing. Yeah, but it's because I couldn't skate. Yeah. Robert, here's what I want you to do. Oh no.

Anytime this conversation. That we're about to have about the Tar Heel nickname gets a bit too dense for sports radio. I just want you to start playing. The Scatman remix. Our theme music.

I'm a new basketball coach, by the way. I cannot believe I'm in here dancing to a Duke song, too. That's ridiculous. All right, so we will. Robert, anytime that you feel this is getting a bit too heavy, you can just come in and play that music to lighten the mood a little bit there.

There were a dozen protesters in Chapel Hill. Demanding that the University of North Carolina change its nickname. From tar heels, clothes claiming That There are Confederate connotations to it. There is a man named William Thorpe. who was leading This Uh protest.

He is the director of the Union Soldier Campaign. And He said That During the Civil War Confederate soldiers held their ground against Northern aggression and fought against the values and ideals we now have in this country. They stood their ground as if they had tar on their heels. End quote. Which I don't know.

I haven't seen anywhere else. saying that was an expression linked with Uh Confederates at all. Confederacy. You have this online bit that you do. called I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Either.

And I think this qualifies as that. But the more and more I've done research on the Tarheel name, I see other instances where It predates the Confederacy by decades. And this name was officially attached. to the Tar Heels in 1880. 20 years after or fifteen years after, the Civil War ended.

We don't know for sure. If It is in fact tied To the Confederates' causes. I'm not going to speak for anybody in 1880. But While I'm willing to listen, the same way I'm willing to listen and have for the Redskins, for Ole Miss, for UNLV, heck, even for the Masters Golf Tournament. Um I Don't think that this name.

This is my opinion, and I'm interested in your thought on it, B Dot, because you're a massive Tar Heel fan. Comparing the tar heels nickname, let's say, to the Redskins. seems to be unfair. Getting a lot of that on social media the last few days. I mean the Redskids name, it's a slur.

Tar heel, even if you believe what's being said here. It is it. That part's easy. You can source back the the origins of Redskin pretty easily. There's no debating Redskins to pick Indians.

There's no doubt about that.

Meanwhile It's tough to really say what tar heels truly depict. That is the overall debate. What do you think?

Well, I've been conflicted, Josh, because I am a huge Tarheel fan. The unofficial mascot of the Tar Heel. The unofficial mascot, for Christ's sakes. And, you know, on one end, of course, you know, I'm super HBCU. I'm pro the movement and I'm supporting black businesses and all of that.

And from that perspective, I really looked at this. I tried my best to look at this from a non-biased perspective. And honestly, I have to agree with a lot of your sentiments in the idea that. A lot of the things I saw were, you know, this was referred to. Or North Carolinians were referred to as Tar Heels.

uh predating the Civil War by 100 years even. It was a situation where we were heavy in tar in the tar industry.

So we would get tar on our feet, thus being named the tar heels. It had nothing to do with the war or black people or any of that.

So, from that perspective, I'm not in the idea of canceling the Tar Heels mascot.

Now, because I am a huge Tar Heel fan, I don't even like speaking on it because I know people are saying, hey, you're just saying that because you're a Tar Heel fan. But that's really where I stand, Josh. And I think that was a great spot to drop that, Robbie. Yeah. Right as I was about to speak, I think I'm just kidding, I won't do it again.

I think. This fits into red. Really, what a lot of what the last two months have been about in terms. of monuments in terms of images, in terms of Relics from the past, what should stay or what should go. It seems like we're searching.

For where the line is in America. We are too, Josh. That's the reality. The reality is black people right now, we really don't know. as a collective where to start To even get what we think we want, or even if we know exactly collectively what we do want.

Right, and I didn't view it as a separator. When I said we, I was saying we as in me and you, I would assume. Absolutely. No, no question. Like, I like, but what I'm saying is.

People who are with the That are tired of the The systemic racism and tired of the mistreatment of people of color and things of that nature. They're all, like when I say that, I mean our allies. I don't necessarily mean black people. I apologize for misspeaking that way, but what I'm saying is. We don't know exactly where to start.

Like, you start, you say, hey, let's start with the schools and the systemic divide there with schools on certain sides of neighborhoods have more accessibility to technology than others. Or let's start in the government, or let's start with supporting black businesses. Like everybody's going in different directions, and we really don't have necessarily someone. To guide and funnel everybody in the right direction.

So you're going to have people popping up saying, Hey, what about the Tar Hills mascot? And hey, you saw the Redskins. Hey, what about the Braves? What about the Seminoles?

Well, the Seminoles are cool with Florida State. All right, well, let's go over here. Like, you just got so many people running around like a bunch of ants just.

Well actually it's not like ants, because ants have more order. They're like they're phone, they're going in a straight line. We it's it's like this situation, we know we have the the the the impact right now. We know we have a spotlight. We know that people are taking notice more than they've ever done in years.

But now what to do with that? As a collective, black people, white people together, black people that are for the cause, black people, white people that are for the cause, everybody that's for the cause and for the equality, how do we start? Do you think there's anything that might change with North Carolina? Could you see that happening? With the Tar Heels?

Yeah. The logo? I think the name. Is pretty rock solid. I think that's going to stay.

But in terms of the logo, what some people point out is the actual logo itself with the top. Car or the black spot on the heel that potentially could change. Yeah. That's not coming from North Carolina, by the way. That's just what people on the internet are suggesting.

I don't think anybody from North Carolina has responded to these protests. And see, like, I know that on campus they were trying to get a lot of the Confederate statues and buildings renamed and things of that nature for recognizing Confederate soldiers. And, you know, on one hand, yes, we should do those things possibly. But what about instead of tearing down those Confederate statues or buildings, what about building up our own heroes in this area that should have statues or should have buildings and name some of them for positivity in that regard? Why not do that?

You can't help but feel good when you hear that. Systemic racism is over there. Don't look that way. Let's dance. Feedback.

I do have to. Yeah. Okay. Let it hit you, Robert. Let it go!

Hands up, hands up, hands up, hands up, hands up. Put your hands on the wheel, you driving now. Put your hands on the wheel, you driving. Put your hands on the wheel, you driving now. Put your hands on the wheel, you driving now.

Josh, sit down for you. No, no, no, no. You are listening to WSGS, Smith and Salem, WCOG Greens, Bro, WPCM Burlington, WMFR High Point. Those signals make up sports up. It's time to do.

A little bit of learning. Roy Cooper yesterday announced that Schools are going to be 50% capacity? Is that what I heard correctly when they're talking about this plan B? How did you take that? I know you were watching intently as a parent.

Yeah, I took it as that, but also that the county can determine exactly how far they want to go with that. Like I'm seeing that Guilford County might be doing a situation where they go five weeks. um remote learning and then let them go to school for a week or something. I don't know how this whole thing's gonna be. Yeah, when I read it it was like uh they would do kids would do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and then alternate Fridays between the two groups.

However, it is. We would describe what's about to happen as being remote learning as. I Do not know much about the urban vernacular, but I'm getting a lot better. You are. I really am.

From week to week. Like. I heard Cam Newton talking to OBJ and Todd Gurley yesterday and saying no cap. And I knew exactly what he was talking about. You know what I'm saying?

This segment, it's really taking me places, and I hope. I hope some of you can agree with that. It's not a white and black thing. I want to make sure to point that out. Robert knows all of these terms.

There are many callers. Know it as well. This is a Josh thing. Yeah, Josh is just four-corners sometimes when it comes to the vernacular. And I feel like.

You might be in your car feeling the same exact way, so. Let's go ahead and dive right in. to BDOTS Grammar School. Yeah. Josh Graham has his own way of speaking.

In high school, he didn't play sports, but he did wear a helmet. And just when you think it can't get any worse. My English teacher wanted to flunk me in junior high. Damn, thanks a lot.

Next semester, I'll be 35. Josh is going to attempt to learn B-Dot's vernacular. I'm from the old school. I got all street knowledge. You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying? It's time. For B Dots Grammar School. And we're all over the place early. It's not looking good for Josh because I know where his trusty pen is.

The pen that I bite. The end of. Yeah, he's struggling.

So, whoo, he's out of his comfort zone. I'm going to do it virtually. Josh, today is a day you could really set a bar for yourself.

Now you know we have five words, but today you could get six How? To one of the words is a word that we've used before. Wow. Your first word is going to be a review word just so you can gain some confidence about yourself.

Okay. What's work? If I say, yo, my man over there, he got that work. What's work? Hold on a second.

Say the sentence again? My man over there, he got that work. Is that a synonym for getting work? He's got that work. Can you get that work?

Yeah. I wish you all could have saw the way Josh pointed at himself when he said, get that work with both of us. Is that the same thing? No. Getting that work Is totally different from someone who has that work.

Ah, got it. Has that work. And you said this is a review word? If you know the answer, watch his tablet over there. We have a lifeline.

336-777-6606. You're going to use a lifeline. Wait, I'm sorry. Give the number again. I'm sorry.

336-727-1600. If you know any of these, you can help me out. You're going to use a lifeline on a review word? I have Robert as a lifeline, too. I'm just thinking.

Has that worked? I w I'm thinking Ha ha ha ha. Has that work? I'm gonna say Okay. Um That It's my man, Josh.

My man's got that work. He's got it. Yeah, like does it mean somebody's like strong? Um Is that your guess? That is my guess.

Work is drugs, Josh. It's drugs. We've gone over this before. If somebody has that work, they have the drugs. See, Josh will mix himself up because he'll think other words mean drugs.

And he'll be like, yeah, does this mean drugs? No, this one does not mean drugs. This one. All right, you can double back right here, Josh. You can double back right here.

This word is a new word, but the answer. The answer is an O-word. Oh What is Dirty Sprite? Uh Oh. You want dirty sprite?

That's like It would be Like, uh... Purple drink. Like Lil Wayne likes his likes his uh Sprite Easter Pink. But what is it? Codeine.

Yes. There you go. Yeah. Codeine, aka lean. Promethazine.

Yes, you get two points for that right there, Josh. Look at you. Look at you. I was in dare. Did they teach us about that in DARE?

Probably not. Probably not, but there was no lean when we were talking about that. Yeah, my dad's a DARE police officer. You've told us every time we talk about drugs. But every time we talk about drugs.

Josh, what does it mean? This is a review word to drop dime. What does it mean to drop dime on someone? It is most notable from a scene in Belly. The man was sitting there biting a banana.

At a perm. And he said, hey. I'm about to drop dime on them. This, these words really stress him out. Like, I wish y'all could see the angst on his face.

Like, it is working him over. 336-777-1600, if you can help. My good brother Josh here. Drop dime because you know immediately where I go with this being a sports talk show. Go to basketball and assist.

I know. And I'm just, I haven't seen Belly. You've never seen Belly? It's another one. You've never seen Belly.

You definitely should watch. We need Urban Movie Night, guys. That's what we should do: Urban Movie Night. Drop dime. I think it means to To uh to spend some cash, you know, to to to To drop to buy something expensive, drop down.

No. It means to snitch. When you drop dime on somebody else, you Thank you. Thank you very much. When somebody refers to their hammer, my hammer.

What are they talking about, Josh? Oh. Ha ha ha ha. What? What?

I'm going to go to Robert on this one. Robert, help me. I need to get this right to have a chance on the fifth one. All right, you always know how I play. You can either choose to believe me or not.

I'm going to say a hammer is someone's member. It's not that, though, because you immediately pointed to me and said after I laughed. I just did not want you to say it. Then why did you say it? That's something for you to choose or not.

Robert, you know the answer. Help! If I call you out for giving me bad advice, you give me the good advice. That's fair. I helped him for like two weeks and he wants to throw me under the button.

You gave him the win last week. Don't let him pressure you, Robin. I'm not flipping. Don't. I'm not about to.

But Robert, I already know what you're saying is BS.

Well, then you have to. You've admitted it's BS. Josh, if you get one more point, you win. That's not true. Yes, you have two.

He doesn't even know the game. I have one right. Josh. You got two points on the other word. On Dirty Sprite, you got you two points.

You're playing with the church's money right now. Yeah. Hammer. You can either choose to believe me or think it out. It's not what you're saying.

Okay. Two. What did Robbie say? Robert said it's it's your member. I don't think it's your member.

I mean, if you got a hammer like this, every problem looks like a nail, Josh.

Okay. Alright, fine, I'm gonna go with it. It's a member. It's not a member! You know it's not a freaking member!

It's a gun, you nut job! Like you would cock the hammer? Yes, the hammer. I got my hammer. You would hammer job.

Josh. Yeah, what? What? Don't ever say that. I don't even know what you said, and it just sounded so wrong.

Well, nothing was wrong with it. Robert just stormed off. There he is. You're trying to get my segment banned. All right, last word right here, Josh.

If you get it right, you win. I don't even know how. I feel like we've done 30 words today. What does it mean when something is a movie? Three, three, six, seven, seven, seven, one, six hundred.

Can I have it in a sentence at least? Last night was a movie, bro. Get back. That's it. That's your senate.

Oh. Yeah. Does anybody want to help Josh? Why doesn't anybody call to assist you? I think they really like listening to you struggle.

I have friends that love this segment and they refuse to comment. I'm like, hey, if you listen every week, you should call in and help. And they're like, nah, man, I really just like. You know the reason why. Watching Josh Flounder.

There's only one form of undefeated content on this show that nobody hates, nobody anywhere. And that is the host looking dumb. That is the secret sauce. Yeah, that's it. Robert, I mean, this is perfect for you to queue up the Duke music or the Duke song or just really just me messing it up with Carol Lawson last hour.

The new Duke back. Duke Duke. The new Duke back. Duke Duke Duke. The new Duke Back.

Duke Duke. So a movie. That's a hit. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sitting at the meat.

You remember, I wish I could make that my ringtone. You remember you used to do that? I remember recording my own ringtone. A movie. What is a movie, Josh?

Uh Robbie, could you please give him the sentence one more time? Last night was a movie, bro. Okay. This is for the win, Josh. Does it mean...

A movie. Does it mean that You had a really bad night, like it was dramatic. Like so bad it was dramatic. It was a movie. Why is that the movie that you would pick?

A dramatic, horrible movie. Because the way Robert said it in that sentence. Oh man, you must have not had no movie nights. Definitely have never had a movie night. A movie is epic.

Last night was a moment. I said dramatic. No, no, no. No, no. You said it's bad.

It's not bad. If somebody hits you, it's like, yo, how was last night, bro? Last night was a movie. You walk into the first place, and it's just like there's a fight, you see some, there's like free drinks, and all of a sudden, this dude gets beat up and some fun activities get knocked out of his pocket. You pick him up.

Oh, that's fine. I saw that. Last night was a movie. Yeah, movie night with Josh means complete something completely us. We gotta do that.

B Not, thanks for being here, buddy. Thanks for having me, Josh. He's also so defeated. He lost, man. It's his first loss in a couple weeks, man.

It's been a while. Yeah. Brad Stevens' career, it's been a movie. There's no way I can work work. Dirty sprite.

And hammer. Into any of this. They aren't allowed in the bubble. Since it's radio, I don't think it qualifies as dropping dime. It's just me telling you what I think.

It's my opinion.

So I'll tell you why. I don't expect Brad Stevens to leave for either. Duke. or North Carolina. when that time comes.

That's next for the uh on the drive. Ding ding boys schools in session. Let's go now Back to the drive with Josh Graham on Sports Hub Triad. Luke Decock from the Raleigh News and Observer. Put this out a short while ago, an update on our friend John Forslund, Voice of the Hurricanes.

Or maybe I shouldn't add that tag because he hasn't been signed over the last few weeks. They haven't come to an agreement. The latest. No ongoing negotiations right now. The Hurricanes and John Forsland aren't talking.

Forsland's going to go to Toronto, though, to call playoff games for NBC. This feels like the end. Mike Manascalco potentially could be up next. on Fox Sports Carolinas. Brian Geisinger from ACCSports.com now joins us.

Before we get to the ACC stuff, BG, I want to talk a little bit about the NBA's bubble and their resuming of the season. I really. Think In these very different circumstances, there are going to be teams that adapt well and teams that don't. When I look at teams that might adapt well, I think of a Toronto with the toughness of a coach like Nick Nurse and a team that really has exceeded expectations after losing Kawhi. I think of the Boston Celtics with.

Brad Stevens and non-dramatic superstars. I look at the Clippers. Kawhi Leonard, it almost seems like he prefers not having fans there. Pat Beverly, he's a guy who could bring a lot of energy. By himself to the floor.

And that's going to be necessary if there is no energy coming from the stands. In terms of teams that might not. Respond well. I just see a lot of problems with Houston. I see a lot of pressure.

I see a team that seems jerry-rigged to try and make things work in a very specific way. Good luck with that in a tough spot. Philadelphia, Brent Brown, I don't know if it's it. Joe L. Embiid, he's showing up in a hazmat suit.

That's going to be the leader of this team. Al Horford hasn't met expectations. And the Brooklyn Nets, I mean, it's no KD, no Kyrie, and I don't know who's going to score for this team.

So I spell all that. Out to ask you singularly if there's a team you look at, it might even be one of the teams I brought up. That might adapt well to the bubble setup, and another that might not. Yeah, I mean uh First off, like it does feel like the teams that are going to do the best are like there's going to be some luck factor. which has to do with just injuries, right?

Like they're unfortunately, it it seems logical to assume that some guys are after ramping back up this quickly into highly competitive basketball, like there are going to be some injuries. We've seen this some of you've been watching the Carolina Courage play out in the NWSL bubble. And it's just like whichever team is able to avoid, you know, avoid injuries to a star, to rotation piece or whatever, again, assuming everyone inside the bubble is able to sort of like stay healthy and insulated from COVID, those are going to be that like those teams are really going to excel if you're looking at like sort of tangible stuff as opposed to just personalities and stuff as well. But I think continuity plays a big factor.

So like you said, you bring up Toronto, that even though they lost Andy Green and Kawhi, they brought back a lot of the same guys from the the title team a year ago, a team that's just played more basketball than anyone else In the last 15 to 12 months or so. And obviously, having a great coach like Nick Nurse, having a great coach like Brad Stevens with Boston certainly helps. Um I kinda think though too, if if you're just looking at like the best teams, the teams that are most ready to adapt. I do think it's the teams that have the most obvious title aspirations.

So, a team like the Lakers, the Clippers, and the Bucs, it's just like. I know they've been off for four months now, but I got to think even as their focus has wavered, it's still the season, if it was going to get picked back up, they were they're the favorites. Those are the three teams, the odds on the three best teams in the league. They're the likely that the title is going to come to one of those three teams. And so I think with that sort of that carrot dangling at the end of the stick, I think those are the most likely teams to sort of adapt and be ready.

And then yes, the Sixers, I just think it's a little interesting playing Ben Simmons at power forward now, not having the offense run through him as much, more Shake Milton. And like bringing out Hort off the bench, it may help you in a pinch because you get to sort of space out some of these lineups that haven't worked so great for them during the regular season. But like They signed Al Horford to a max contract a year ago.

So having him become your sixth man and Benson as your power forward is It's not necessarily a solution. It's a band-aid. It's a temporary fix.

So we'll see how that plays out in the bubble as well. You're not concerned about the Lakers? I mean, yeah, I mean, we're losing Bradley for sure, and Rondo is tough too. Like their depth is stretched. Um That which is tough.

Like Avery Bradley did things for them. He guarded the ball well. He was shot 36% clip this year. That's pretty good. You know, they're going to need a lot from Alex Caruso and Catavius Caldwell Pope.

And, you know, this is why they went out and signed J.R. Smith, too. But as long as they can keep LeBron in AD upright, and healthy. I I think that yeah, I still think it's Their eyes on the prize, and I still like them as the second best team in the Western Conference, although again. That with the injury to Rondo and Bradley not coming, those are serious death pieces, Bradley, especially, that's missing.

But I'm not too worried. Yeah, you're right to keep hitting on health. Carol Lawson, who was in the bubble a short while ago before being hired at Duke, told us a few hours ago that's the first thing that she looks at when it comes to separating points. And speaking of Duke and coaches, One of the I don't know when you get asked by other media members outside of the state of North Carolina, if you've done hits elsewhere, what questions are most common in an ACC tobacco road sense. But the one I most commonly get is, where's Coach K?

Or when's Coach K going to hang it up? It seems like I can't count how many times we've written about this ACC sports for the magazine and things of that nature. And I always had difficulty answering the question because there was nothing I could really latch on to thinking, okay, well, it was the Olympics in 2016, and then it was the Olympics in 2020 if he were going to do it. And now he's not the Olympic coach. But I feel like I have something here with Michael Savarino.

Red shirting last year, his grandson. has four years left. knowing how much the grandkids mean to Coach K. health permitting. It seems like he would like to coach.

His grandkids or his grandson, excuse me, through the next four years. That would put him at 77. Jim Boeheim is going to be 76 in November, so it seems like it could be realistic. Am I on to something? Do you think four years is a realistic window for Coach K?

Yes, I mean, sure. I certainly don't see why not. It is funny though, because if you had gone back four years ago and said, hey, do you think you can he'll coach Ray more years? I would would have said probably no, right? I mean, I have no certainty on any of this stuff.

But yes, it makes a lot of sense. And he's absolutely he clearly feels well. Like he's gone through some surgeries the last couple of years that I think have him feeling a little more loose and fluid at an advanced age. But like He's still got it rocking and rolling over there. Like, they still bring in great clothes, great recruiting classes every single year.

Like, if there's a way to stay energized. And still wanting to do this, you know, however many decades in he is now. Then it is it's sort of this way. Like you have to obviously have to have a real thirst and passion for for basketball and and having an impact on on the lives of of young people and stuff. But uh but yeah, I think it's you know, you you keep having you stay around young people, you stay younger too.

And and perhaps even like the sort of like re not revolving door, but just like the the fact that there are new players entering the program every year, perhaps that does something to your sola as a basketball coach.

So, yeah, it would not surprise me at all in in uh He'll turn 74 in February next year, assuming we have some semblance of a season or whatever.

So yeah, I can see him keeping this going for a few more years. And I think that makes plenty of sense. And yeah, they're still good. They win tons of games in our top 10 in offense every year, top 10 recruiting classes, top 5 recruiting classes every year.

So, yeah, why not? Just keep it going. He's on Twitter at BGeis underscore Bird. It's Brian Geisinger from ACC Sports.com with us. Here's the three-pronged.

Criteria: I have for Coach K's successor whenever that time comes, which is a lot different than North Carolina's, but let's just keep it with Duke for now. I think. I would be surprised if it's not a Duke alum, since there are so many candidates that have played at Duke and ended up being on Coach K staff and ended up being a really good head coach. I'd be surprised if they go outside the Brotherhood, so that knocks out Mike Bray, and he's in his 60s too, so he might be aged out anyway. Former K assistant.

That's something that's important too, I think. Knowing how K operates on a different level, knowing the secrets. That builds a lot more trust there. That eliminates Bobby Hurley, who was never an assistant for Coach Kay at Duke. He's at Arizona State.

Then there's college head coaching experience, but you have to have a winning record. Chris Collins, right now, doing a fine job at Northwestern, getting them to the tournament for the first time, but still has a losing record. I don't care. How bad things were at Northwestern and how good of a coach you were. If you have a losing record, I don't think you're stepping into the Duke job.

So, There are five coaches that fit that billing. Tommy Amaker. At Harvard, Quinn Schneider with the Utah Jazz, Johnny Dawkins at UCF, who also coached at Stamford. And then you got Steve Wojahowski and Jeff Capel, both in their mid-forties. Out of those five, do you think you have a front runner right now if you had to pick one out?

Yeah, I mean, I think Jeff Capel is the front runner. I felt that when he was the associate head coach, I momentarily wavered on that when he took the pit job. And then you're around this theme too. Like you talked to enough people and you still sort of get the sense that as long as things go pretty well for Cape up at Pitt that the Duke job could certainly be his. In enough time, and I know the pit may have underachieved a little bit this season, but Just in terms of talent level and sort of like where the program is, it's obviously way, way, way better than where it was just two years less than two years ago, or just a little over two years ago, I should say, under Kevin Stallings and Pitt is shaped up to be pretty good next season.

I mean, Chris Collins would have been an interesting choice that you got Northwestern to the tournament for the first time in program history in 2017. But the wheels have I don't want to say they've fallen off, but man, Northwestern's been they were really young this year, but they've just been bad the last two seasons, like really, really bad. Um I think Wojo is interesting. I just think a guy like Quint Snyder, I mean, I think Quinn Snyder is like one of the ten greatest basketball coaches on planet Earth right now. He's a genius and truly one of the best Masterminds in the NBA.

I just don't see him coming back down to the college level. I think he coaches in the NBA from now until his. As hard as content.

So, yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of good options. This is arguably the best job in all of college basketball. and um and they can pay whatever they want for it too. But yeah, if I had to handicap it, I'd say that that Jeff Capel is the is the front runner. At this very moment, I mean, a lot can change in in in a year or four years.

Last thing for you, BG. Uh I am not. Outside of the All-Star game. I am not a fan of the Elam ending. That we saw last night.

I mean, it was both teams trying to shoot for the title in the TBT tournament. I'm not a big fan of it because I feel like. I'm fine with games ending on defense. It doesn't always have to end on a game-winning shot, which is what you would have with the Elam ending, math getting involved to figure out a designated score for everybody to shoot at. I'm also.

Not a big fan of taking away the buzzer beater. There's no instance in the TBT. Where A shot goes up. And it's either win or lose the shot falling. I think that's special in basketball.

Taking that away would take away a lot, I think. And also, I'm a big fan of overtime. I don't know who isn't. That you don't get that in the TBT either. What's your viewpoint on the.

Ilamende. Yes, I think it's cool. I mean, I'm I'm not like I don't want to advocate I think I'm it's weird because I like the Elimending, but I still think I sort of fall on the same page with you, which is that and perhaps it's just I'm I'm relying on what's tried and true or whatever. But I don't it's not something that I want to see like NBA playoff games being determined by this or March Madness games or even regular season NBA games or whatever. It was really, really cool in the All-Star game, though, and I do like what it's done to the TBT.

It definitely adds a couple more different variables and sorts of strategy to the end of the game. And that certainly created a great deal of excitement. If you remember, around the All-Star game just a few months ago, it feels a lot. longer than that. Um, so yeah, it's really cool.

I'm interested with ways to keep experimenting with it and to try it out in different formats. The NBA uses. You know, the G League and Summer League and all this other stuff as these sorts of basketball laboratories.

So I'm interested in it in that capacity to. See how it plays out. I have an idea for you then. I have an idea. You let me know what you think of it.

In the NHL, to try and speed things up, you got. You have the five-minute overtime, and if nobody scored, you go straight to a shootout, Major League Baseball to try and get a game ended. When things resume, they're going to put a runner on second base, just like they do in minor league baseball, to try and wrap things up quicker. What about If you have a five-minute overtime in the regular season and you're still tied and go into double overtime, it's an Elam ending at that point. Yes, I'd be fine with that.

Is it like as like a as like a starter as a starter? Is it just a way to dip your toe in the waters a little bit? Yes, I would be totally fine with that because not many games even end up in double overtime, but you'd still got to just try it out a little bit more, you know So, yeah, I'd be interested in that. All right. I'm just excited.

We got basketball in the next few weeks. It's really exciting. Yeah, it is. Can't wait for it. Can't wait to follow your stuff as well.

Be Geyser Bird. We'll have you back to Talk More NBA sometime soon. Thanks for doing this. Of course. Take care, everyone.

There you go. That is Brian Geisinger, Triad Guy. High point play uh color commentator. Acc Sports dot com. Does quite a bit.

I don't know anybody else that watches more NBA basketball than that guy does. But I'm not a big fan of the Elam ending. As Potentially Being the popular way to end basketball games. But Everybody has an attention span, Robert. When you're talking about over three hours.

I'm going to do the Chappelle show bit and say, wrap it up. Figure it out. What are you talking about?

Sorry, my attention span was way too short. You have the the the uh the Oscars music wherever you go, you know? You know, just wrap this thing up. You play the music, play it off. You need to find a way to get this game over with.

So if nobody. I want to be a fan of the first overtime being that. Like Let him figure it out in five minutes. But after the first overtime, Usually basket NBA games go like two and a half hours, a little bit over that.

So after overtime, you're talking you're at three hours. Elimentic. First team to score 10 points wins. You know what I think they should do? What's that?

I think they should start the game off with the full five players. And then every quarter that passes, they take away one eligible player.

So, only four people can be on the court. Hockey does that.

Okay. Hockey, they go. It's a. A You have three on three in hockey. which is nuts.

There's just so much space all over the place. That would be fun. And then you get to the finals, and it's 2v2, and then it's LeBron and A.D. versus Carlton. How much one-on-one?

How about just double overtimes, one-on-one, your best versus our best? Let's see what happens. Then you have coaches going to play it conservative and be like, all right, I'm just going to put my big guy in here. We're going Bobon.

So Taco Florida. It would have to be a position matchup. They would have to make a rule like that. But if it was, if all the games did come down to one-on-ones at the end of the game, do you still think the Clippers would have the best chance of winning? Yes.

I would take Kawhi over a LeBron, and they would both have already played the whole game. The question is: Kawhi versus Giannis. Oof. Who yeah, who can you match up with Giannis? Ibaka, I don't know.

He did a good job last year of keeping him intact, but can he do that for? Can he score? That's a good question. Could Serge score on Giannis?

So, you think Giannis would benefit the most from my preposterous rule change? That's right. I would love to see that. I don't think anybody would beat Giannis. I don't think that would happen.

This is preposterous. I would also like it as if if it was like um What's the Will Farrell movie, Semi-Pro? Yeah. If every time they went to a commercial break, both teams had to fight. Oh.

So you come back for a commercial and you figure out Marv Albert's telling you what happened during the commercial break. Hey, Danny Green, clotheslined the hell out of Luke. He's out for the rest of the game. I thought you were going to say double overtime. They throw a bear into the middle of the floor.

I would love that. There's a bear. Nailed that. They would have to play the game with a bear on the court. That would be great.

It really is. It's tough. This is so ridiculous. I love it though. Usually, we do this for sports that are in trouble.

The NBA doesn't really need to change anything. This is like Major League Baseball. Put a bear on the field. Why didn't we think of that? Try to play baseball with a bear on the field.

The Cubs, they'd have a home field advantage. You'd also put the bear in danger. I think a bear can take a baseball. If he gets pelted in the head with a ball, but then again, if the bear is in danger. What about the pitcher?

The pitcher getting drilled with the ball in the head. I think, oh man, I don't know. The bear's not expecting it. Yeah, I mean, it depends where the bear's at. Like, well, the bear's asleep in the outfield for the last three innings.

Somebody hits a home run, the music pipes up, and then all of a sudden. There's no chance the bear's going to be asleep if there are fans in this. Hibernating. What if it's like a colder game? He gets a little chilly, takes a nap.

They're in Atlanta. Coke bottle blows up. The bear wakes up. He's in a rage. Oh, no.

Someone's hit. He's going to the wall. He's been speared by the bear. Oh, no.

The ball's sitting in the outfield. Grand slam. I would watch baseball. It would be called bear ball. On the scoreboard.

On the scoreboard. If a bear is attacking a player, it tells everybody to be silent because at that point, you need to act like everything's normal and then act limp. It's almost like the player. He's got to go Leo DiCaprio. You can't fight that.

No. No, it's almost like a pickle. You're like, he's like, oh, he's in the way, looking at the bear, and then all of a sudden, is the bear going to charge him? What's going to happen? Who cares?

Throw that ball home. Don't let that guy score. That's bare ball. There's no crying in bare ball. Robert, what do you got in ticket to the house?

I like my cows that don't poot or burp as much. It's next on the dry.

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