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This support is one open things up with the question the Carolina Panthers.

If you had the choice of having either Joe Burrell or Joe Brady on the team but not both.

Who would you want because there's still a factor. The pampered fans even some media types who believe Carolina should trade up the number want to draft borrow in order to reunite the two, but I don't really see that happening because first off Cincinnati would have to do that deal. I don't see that happening, and secondarily I don't see Carolina pursuing it because personally I prefer to have Brady over Burrell.

We can agree, even if you think Burrell is the best thing since sliced bread. This guy is awesome quarterbacking quarterback will always be the more important position to take a chance on that.

Any coordinator can be we can agree borough is a bigger risk when you draft a quarterback in the first round. You are linking your franchise to this guy for four or five years whether goes well. Whether goes poorly, you're going to be linked to this person for four or five years and we've seen instances where this sets franchises back Marcus Mary Oda just now hitting the free-agent market. They picked up Brian Tannehill last season after areata's turned out to be a bust, at least in Tennessee.

How about how Mitch Stravinsky, the Bears may have to admit they're wrong before they move off to Biscay and I don't know if they're willing to do that. So they are stuck there.

They are stuck with Stravinsky and this happens every year in the draft team doesn't hit they don't want to admit they're wrong. They don't move off of somebody. And I personally would prefer to over Burrell anyway if you had it option Carolina Panthers were taken up or what I would like to pick to be who I think of getting player with a larger sample size.

I value larger sample sizes versus the smaller samples he's younger, about 2 1/2 years younger to them. Borough he has worked with multiple coordinators he's had more happened to them.

I see how he reacts to adversity. Also, I like his personality a little bit better. This goes back to how you react to things went quarterback's gotta be a little bit politician. You gotta be boring if you say interesting things are going to get crossed.

Just ask Baker Mayfield just asked cam Newton. If you go out publicly and say things that can be construed as controversial.

It's not going to be a win for you, so most guys they don't say much. Russell Wilson doesn't say interesting syllables pretty much everything of time to set up steps to the microphone drew breeze pretty vanilla Tom Brady Peyton Manning. The list goes on and on to us I think would master that more than the guy who had the hat big delete borough or whatever it was, after the national title.

When in New Orleans so that's why it's a big risk.

Joe borough whoever's going to pick up. In this instance, Carolina. If Joe Brady doesn't work, you could come cut bait after one or two years. This is a risk that David Tapper owes to himself.

See, this is something I think about business all the time I think about this with WWE I think about it with Vince McMahon, Vince McMahon surely should've got back into football chance for the XXL how much Robert does WWE make per year for Vince McMahon we talking about a $500 million business multibillion-dollar.

Maybe I don't think he's a billionaire anymore, but he's close he's making a lot of money right so if you're making that much annually.

Why not try to right a wrong that you had from a couple decades before the building Carolina hurricanes owner. He kept the AAF running for a couple more months for just about $100 million. So Vince McMahon owed it to himself to take a gamble on football David Tapper Matt rule as soon as assurances were given there long contracts six, seven years, 60, $70 million.

You know this guy was going to be around.

Why not take some swings. If you know it's something that's got to be long-lasting. Why not say hey what see what we got with Joe Brady, David Tapper. He understands as a multibillionaire, you gotta take some risks and Joe Brady Wally's risk. It's not as high risk as doing something like drafting a quarterback in the top 10 if Brady doesn't work cut bait after one or two years.

It's not good to set the franchise back Joe Brady. Unlike borough has exceeded everywhere. He's been in New Orleans before he became LSU's passing game coordinator. He spent two years there you want to know what the saints did all offensively the two years he was there in 2017, they ranked fourth in the NFL all offensively and 2018 they finished third all offensively, scoring over 500 points last year they were down 50 points in about three points per game drew breeze spoke publicly about how much more comfortable he was having Brady in the building. Michael Thomas has raved about Brady as well. They had such a good relationship that Thomas went to the national championship game just to support Brady and to see him after the win. Then of course with LSU. This was an average offense for about a decade.

The question we always had in the media. How does LSU have all this talent Odell Beckham Junior Jarvis Landry star players ever your Brandon Lavelle great players across the board yet be an anemic boring predictable offense.

That's what they were in 2018 and even though borough technically wasn't the passing of the office of court Nader and sub would was given the passing game title right next to Stephen's in its obvious he was the big difference maker between what this team was a 2018 versus what it was last season, one of the best offenses we've ever seen in college football borough. He didn't start at Ohio State.

He spent years there on the bench, got a degree transferred to LSU he was okay. His first season in Baton Rouge.

His second year is awesome and it just so happens to be alongside Brady so I think I'm getting more value with Brady versus Joe borough. I don't think Carolina Panthers made him Brady. He's been ahead of the curve and his offense is going to benefit everybody. You have the build around a guy like borough who's used he's accustomed to having Tyler around at Ohio State you have draft picks left and right who you're throwing the ball to LSU look at those receivers. Justin Jefferson is going to be in this draft and two or three other guys. He's throwing the ball to better going to be draft picks. The Panthers are going to be better off not just the quarterback offense for Brady being there and when it comes to forward thinkers phenoms are hard to spot. I knew it almost immediately with Lincoln Riley, who was the offense of coordinator at East Carolina.

The youngest OC before he went to Oklahoma for a couple years and succeeded Bob stoops. I knew it with the conversation I had with Lincoln I was covering the team in Greenville. ECU was getting set to play Bud Foster of Virginia Tech, Foster, what are the best coordinators in the history of college football so one question I asked up and this is a way for reporters this is inside the team facility near Lincoln were just talking one-on-one off the record� I said what what are some things you're trying to do to throw Bud Foster off like obviously this guy has this track record is always great offensive players is more talent on defense. What you have here. He looked at me like I was crazy and said I don't care if they have more talent. The scheme that I'm working here I know is good and football is not about tricking people. It's about doing what you do better than they do it and I'm damn confident working to do that is essentially what Lincoln told me and what are they doing 2013 they go into Blacksburg and they beat a ranked Virginia Tech team a week after they were in Columbus and beat Ohio State it's not hard to spot phenoms John McVeigh we knew it pretty early on the team that was under 500 to the playoffs with double-digit wins in his first year that can happen with the Panthers. Maybe not, but I'm gonna bank on Joe Brady before I bank on Joe borough. If I had the option for one or the other, not both.

I'm going Brady to tweak the show at sports of Triad 336-777-1600 is the phone number Robert Walsh is producing today show Aaron Gabriel is in the control room as well. Robert why is pitch black in your control room. I can't even see you guys and I'll turn the lights of I didn't even notice that it was just incredibly dark. I will Aaron was going to do like the slam poetry deal with the start of the show. I was trying to reminisce about the time the game you're just talking about Virginia Tech, how I how I was after the game. I was very, how were you at blacked out like my studio is talk some college football with Ryan McGee of ESPN when he joins us in about 20 minutes were to be sharing with Darren Vaught this hour workshop exam new segments to so a lot of fun is to come in.

Speaking of college football.

That's actually where I want to head right now because I'll tell you why former weight quarterback Jamie Newman is becoming the new Russell Wilson. This is the sports Josh Graham loves to talk sports. He also loves writing sports for which we can think of a live from your drive with Josh Gray a whole pack of demon dogs. How about thinking though no it seems if Jamie Newman parlays the success he had at Wake Forest to Georgia, which is expected to be a top-five team next year. He might be a draft back and defeat becomes a draft pick. Maybe he's good to be seen as the new Russell Wilson Wake Forest to Russell Wilson and I do think there are a lot of similarities there.

Russ had a lot of success at NC State but wasn't really on the national radar at that time quarterbacks were being taken in the draft that were his height, but with the success of Russell is allowed for opportunity say for a guy like Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray to be taken despite being shorter than what was seen to be a prototypical quarterback.

NC State. They were not seem to be a national title contender.

The Wisconsin team.

He went to certainly build that preseason top 15 team won the Big Ten went to the Rose Bowl. I think one that Rose Bowl to so a lot of success or Russ and what is Jamie Newman do Jamie goes from pretty good Wake Forest team right there competitive in the ACCs Atlantic division and he's going to one of the five best college football programs right now but by any measure, you look at George's in the top five. Like if you could be the head coach of any program in America not named Clemson or Alabama. Where would you like to be odds are you going to say Ohio State, Oklahoma or Georgia. Georgia brings it all these high-level players.

They have all these high-level facilities they been succeeding at the top level the last few years. They just don't have a national championship.

The show was over to a Tahoe below was second-half and that championship game. They won the national title as well. So it's a perfect opportunity for Newman and I've it's strange this week with spring practice starting. I started going through transfers for SEC and ACC teams darted scanning the rosters when you look at next year's draft class, not the one with the draft were watching to combine for currently the one has Trevor Lawrence in it and all likelihood Justin Fields is a little bit of a gap who's good to be after that. In fact, I look at most places they are speculating that Jamie Newman might be a first-round draft pick.

Potentially next year and I have a feeling if he does go down the Russ path where he becomes a draft back has a lot of success you're going to have Wake Forest fans claiming him, but the national story I think is going to forget a lot of the details. I was talking to Peter King. I think about last year.

It's funny what Russ that's one of the players I'm asked most about here in the state of North Carolina. When I leave the state when I was in Colorado I was asked hey what happened with Russell before he went to Wisconsin to play in the NFL, what happened and why did NC state one was a national story. NC State if you go through what actually transpired. They wanted Russ back. Russell had baseball is an option, so he decided to give his draft by the Colorado Rockies. He started playing spring baseball.

While NC State was going through spring practice and they had a future NFL quarterback in place in my clinic so NC state didn't say Russ, we don't want you anymore if you will play football, you play football elsewhere like some believe they just sent you got to let us know if you're to come back and Russ said Don to play baseball okay were to move on with my clinic in NC State. Click at that point D commit from Lynn and if Russ that I want to return and play football. They can't D commit from Glennon or their gonna lose a guy who again was it NFL prospect and has more years left of eligibility them.

Russ had similar spot to Wake Forest. I hope the details are forgotten. They close and wanted Jamie back why one of the of wanted Jamie back but if Jamie I'm not saying this happened, but if Jamie went to Clawson and said I will return the wake only if you give me assurance that I'm to be the starting quarterback Clawson could not give that to because the worst thing that could happen to Wake Forest isn't Jamie Newman deciding to transfer to Georgia.

The worst thing that could've happened to Sam Hartman transferring elsewhere because Sam has three years of eligibility left all Jamie has one. Your job as a head coach his CEO. A business owner is not to think about the one year future of your organization, but look five years to look 10 years and Clawson is looking big picture for like football, so I'm not saying an ultimatum take place took place. But if there was one Clawson could possibly say Newman Jorgen to start Jamie you're going to be the starter because he needed to at least give Sam an opportunity to compete in order to keep him in today's college football I think that amount of contacts doesn't really fit with Twitter.

It doesn't really fit with national media so I doubt it's going to be remembered that way but I hope around here.

People don't construe it, misconstrue it, I should say Ryan McGee is going to join us in 10 minutes. One of the best on the SEC and college football will ask about Jamie Newman transferring to Georgia. What that's gonna look like. But Robert would you believe me if the stats were close between Russ's last year at NC State and Jamie's last year at Wake Forest series numbers. Josh, you cannot convince me Russ's last year at NC State.

He played one more game than Jamie. Never Jamie was hurt for the Florida State game at BB&T Field.

Russ 28 touchdowns 14 pics nine rushing touchdowns that's in 13 games. Jamie 26 touchdowns 11 pics and 12 games six rushing touchdowns. The stats are similar. The skill sets are similar the background. A similar Jamie Newman he could become the new Russell Wilson. Do you know who isn't. The new Russell Wilson is that Ryan Tannehill and I see this rumor being spread all across the Twitter verse started in Indianapolis by a reporter I respect that be a Mike Freeman who said this. This is from a story he wrote yesterday afternoon. The always excellent Ian Rappaport from NFL network reported that for now the Carolina Panthers are planning to move forward with cam Newton that may end up being the case teams I speak to don't buy it. They believe the Panthers are going to pursue a quarterback of free agency and the name I keep hearing is Ryan Tannehill, the Panthers goes the thinking around the league are playing a nice game of poker and are close to settling on Newton.

It's funny as I read that headline last night read this excerpt I was playing poker make a lot of money got I got pretty lucky last night.

Robert two or three hands got it on the river all about it. You take Sarah Bradford out for a good steak this weekend, possibly possibly not been trying that blue apron lately. Really yeah it's been great you cooking are you coming Herman to strike things out. They said you like three meals.

It's pretty cool blue apron you could sponsor the show hide Tivoli not all send us a free food about it) will not about these rumors don't make any sense to me why Ryan Tannehill is 31 years old.

Carolina already has a 30-year-old quarterback under contract and here's the thing.

Cam is better than Tanner cams contract is shorter than what Tannehill would be commanding and cams contract this year is going to cost a hell of a lot less then whatever Tannehill wants with the inflated market where things are free agency quarterbacks back to Tannehill's deal, he's gonna want a long-term deal.

He's 31 but he just signed a one-year deal with Tennessee you honestly think is good to go on another one or two year deal. I don't see it after going to the AFC championship game. Somebody's got to pay this guy and give them three or four years. I don't think Caroline is a fit if Carolina trades cam are still the words from Greg Olson yesterday on the Dan Patrick show Carolina if they're trying to win the key cam if they're not there to trade him if Carolina trades cam their tanking. But here's the misnomer with tanking just because you think you doesn't mean you're actively trying to put a bad product out there that's what people don't understand tanking is about not adding expensive contracts not adding long contracts but instead building on the cheap collecting assets and building around you. Where does it make sense to sign Ryan Tannehill and that 31 uric-year-old guy was looking for a long-term deal is going to look to get paid as well.

It just doesn't fit so I respect Mike Freeman and I see what people are saying oh Panthers they just need a bridge quarterback but I don't think tenant will agrees with that assessment feels good is that yeah draft a young quarterback I'm good for one or two years and I know you guys are trying to tanking build on the cheap. You could just give me a short contract to him all about it.

No way that works so it just doesn't make sense to me in any way. One of our favorite � Ryan McGee of ESPN will share ACC tournament stories in Greensboro over the years and explain hillbilly sayings next on the drive drive okay thank you Josh Gray Fox sports hub triad is almost here Friday. We like to come back having a little bit of fun time of year of ESPN now joining us. One of our favorite gas and we have some fun cooked up for you Ryan a little bit later on in this segment but two weeks from today were going to be seeing semifinal basketball in the ACC tournament in Greensboro. The first on the tournaments been back in five years so whether it was a TV cart be enrolled into a Raleigh high school classroom or experiencing the tournament in the Coliseum.

What's your favorite memory of the tourney and Greensboro where we are to become very thing that I grew up in Raleigh and first basketball postseason are really wants was an 83 and growing up in Raleigh but will turn over the name of that worker.

Meredith called right across treatment states were based on campus. All the parties. The referee Stuart if the state scrimmages all the time. It was all Barco counterstatement and lowball the first however really watched postseason basketball was when state you made cardiac pack. Ryan and 83, and what I remember is your waking state had like this insane game regular season and they played again and I just remember when state B Ralph Sampson, who was still to this day maybe best call about software everything a person when they when they won that tournament and 83, and you think well is awesome but you know now they'll get bounced into the blaze and I was so they may want Gratian on his term yeah I was a dancer man 83 with magic. Follow Ryan on Twitter at ESPN McGee you do a lot of stuff with the SEC network and SEC football spring football is underway at many places and because of that I've been exploring SEC and ACC rosters going through transfer portal moves that I may have missed this off-season, and you let me know if I'm onto something here, or if this is just happy sports radio host stuff but Jamie Newman was awake for us last year. He's now in Georgia I'm looking at future projections for guys who could be NFL draft prospects. A lot of people seem to like Newman could he be the next Russell Wilson when you consider leaving it ACC big four team going to a contender and on top of that, the history suggesting that some might think that the school they left didn't want them back when the reality of it is well they dislike their backup quarterback and would love for their started to return, but details just to have it working out that way. Yeah, you know it's funny because good news to me last year but was insane and are covered always to when they were at the first school in the work.

Second, school will talk about Genuine Parts, Kelly Bryden or Poquoson Missouri and all is God and all in it which last year was crazy to me how worked out and am all is gone to great years. Remember going up to Ohio State and talk to God about it and in the court will look how how sad would it have been if Joe Burrow was on a bench right now. Perhaps I was a bit if we had had another great year out of Genuine Parts and you know not only half of those guys will build play him. That being said, that was a long list of great headliners that were great stories, but there was an even longer list guys who transferred you never and the Russell stories always been the story of the apocalypse, but there are a lot of stories you guys who transferred to because sometimes you now you love God through restarting the transfer, you know, a lot of times the transfer is like someone I would transfer in the great white yet greater Virginia. Why do you think you greater Georgia you know that there was a lot of that in Domino that didn't work out. But no, it's a really action, Deborah Swinney just in the last 24 hours.

The first coach was, critical of what might be the next party to be the next round. Transfer rules and all I did on the floor watching the coaches get irritated by the think they wrote these rules, the coaches wrote these rules because they thought they had found an advantage and what happened was that this is only part of their Domino control hundred percent. The only part of their Domino have control over, and it draws food box Ryan McGee you might know from Marty and McGee with the seer on sports hub triad and you guys have a segment that's taken over the world called hillbilly headlines and in the spirit of that Robert even though I grew up in the state of North Carolina. Roberts more of a hick than I am.

Like Robert he he has these things that he says that I don't understand applets even though again I grew up in a small town of Youngsville, North Carolina, outside the city of Raleigh. I don't understand some of these things I want to run some of the past you and I'll give you five of them will see if you can get three or better. Some Southern sayings, some hillbilly sayings.

See if you could tell me the meaning of them.

Are you ready to go. Yeah you what you said is how often are what I thought Memorial is that right, rocking him Metropolis and the job would rocking ham and still be in Monroe. You Raleigh was big like a little covered Charlotte and the even elegant primal lose in the middle of nowhere outside Charlotte Morgan literally say something obvious like I've no idea what these things mean either so you're not alone. If you don't know, but Robert told you, explain what it is after the fact if he doesn't get when you ready right sure never kick a cow turn on a hot day. You pretty obvious why you wouldn't do that you already feel no motion with the metaphor you know what you don't. Don't get involved in community get involved in no situations to hot tweeting spoke about politics.

Currently, North Carolina with the primary coming to me that would be kicking a cowgirl on the actually new and let's try this one man. He's more nervous than a cat in a room full of rocking chairs on them. I don't know much about the all-time this wonderful at some point made it down to Richmond County yeah you you nurse you were about the situation and am in yeah of callow longtail and rueful rocking chairs with your if you ever been at the beach and smart the rocking chair on your bare toes and you know exactly, is just blowing through these. How about this, he's madder than a wet hen you ever been around, let him there's a reason that there have hen houses, because humans don't like to get wet so I can be picked up and and him him him don't like to get wet like on the same level of Arctic cat with an architect you go you go bucket water on him that the worst possible situation so yeah I get that she didn't know whether to scratch her watch or wind her, but yeah.

Tomorrow, these are the people won't drink Corona because they think the coronavirus and they're mad as to say because he wore very Sanders jersey and I thought it was a burning excellence.

The greatest thing is people don't notice people trying to wander. But as we speak right now what is the expression like a four band factory mean will owe we hear your blowback. You don't want to do something that you're having to pay the penalty for you to pass gas in the room were right. You will spit into the wind by McGee's get it this is what the seer he is the guy puts out hillbilly headlines. He knows hillbilly sayings as well. Before we let you go though.

Anything you care to add to the book of minor-league baseball stories your summer with the Asheville tourist all artist there was a God through a beautiful place baseball for Chronicle Masato Mountaineer of downtown Nashville. At the bottom of the hill.

There is little if you look hard and will you color it was a God whose job was to wash the cars and we call him Jimmy because he had a huge Afro like Jimi Hendrix and I saw Jimmy at every home game for service on James never heard of their work that they would pay Jimmy in cash and Jimmy will walk up the hill home game and we would even make you have a ticket, he just would live in and we live in for free because how much cash they gave him his helmet concessions differently so so you would have radios and then we would constantly you Jimi Hendrix concession updates during games in a peer peer radio curtain so I think you Jimmy have exciting at the grill chicken cut and that he did think three grilled chicken sandwiches and hot and then 10 minutes later we got a Jimmy Hendrix siding snowcone stand. He just bought two snowcone one green one blue it would all for hours. I have no idea how to count how many calories you consume, but apparently you would burn off the same number calories when you power washing is carded, man. Just keep learning new characters. Every single time you with this weather it's Mr. Joe blow me or is it perhaps the ballpark cat is mine slips your holy argument that I'm literally as we speak I'm doing final proofreading own about my father and are writing about his college days and be out this fall. I will shameful promote on your show, please do so will be but once I hit send on the manuscript. I think the next thing will.

Maybe correctable to the ballpark cat Mr. Joe blow me and also Jimi Hendrix eating all the food in Nashville. Ryan bought the chat sometime soon.

Thanks for doing this but it's good to hear from you.

That is Ryan McGee on twitter@yes yet again that I get all of them in that you wanted me to get in Robert or is there another when we Things with slicker than Sonata doorknob was my favorite, and we can say that over next on the hill, knocking yeah or what's the one with the butt being on the log owe sit there like a bump on the law and on up there like a bump on a log.

It's been me. This also been every like a bump on a lock next three draft opinions.

I have the combine will change so a new segment to debut with Darren Vaught he doesn't really know about right now. This is a Friday drive providing you with the latest sports news, commentary and analysis plus tips on how to cheat at bingo Drive with Josh Gray sports hub try. We are sharing with Darren the data going to show now. Everything we it is my belief that the NFL combine makes everybody stupid or kinda like cam Newton makes people stupid. The combine just makes people say dumb things you got Michael Irvin arguing that receivers who run quicker than a 44444343 yeah receivers run quicker than a 43 they're not good to be great wide receivers because of something regarding like the routes that they run all you can get into the route to quickly or things are to be great didn't really work well on the nationally televised draft combine broadcast last night you got somebody lie who is a Chris Sims losing his mind watching Justin.

Herbert wrote a receivers who are being guarded and Justin Herbert not wearing any pads at all this just going after it on twitter. It is my belief the combine complete waste of time. Darren where you stand on. Yeah on all accounts. Yeah, waste of time. I don't I don't care to watch it. I write it. It has nothing, nothing that they do. There has anything to do with what I might possibly enjoy watching those guys do later on, but the combine does influence listeners. The NFL is always ravenously consumed the media's going to cover it so they're going to be takes that are pulled out based on things that happen in the combine, so I think it's the right time for me to give you three NFL draft opinions that I have that the combine isn't going to change. And while were talking about wide receivers and crazy things that Michael Irvin is saying let me tell you this is someone who votes the bullet and the cough award and pays a lot of attention to wide receiver big wide receivers guy. CD Lamb is the best wide receiver in this draft and I'm seeing ridiculous things today. He had that great catch last night and I'm still seeing people say Henry rucks for two way Jerry Judy ran a 40 quicker than city landed 459 CD Lamb only had 11 reps on the bill yeah is not that strong.

He had the fewest reps among wide receivers. Let me tell you he is the most dynamic, versatile receiver I've seen come out of the draft and at least three years, so probably talk about for years. CD Lamb he's that great of a wide receiver don't listen to what anybody else says this guy should be taken in the top 10 best wide receiver in the draft by any of the people that say he's not that I'm nice to see it on like blog sites, even reputable outlets. USA Today for example, last year said that Drew Locke was a loser at the combine. If this guy gets drafted in the second round of the starting game for the Denver Broncos.

Ajay Brown, this is an actual thing that SB nation reported he was a big loser at the combine last year pro football focus rated him as the second best rookie in the NFL last year so take all of this with a grain of salt. I don't get matters. CD Lamb the best wide receiver in the draft. Secondarily, Darren, Justin, Herbert, he does not belong in the tule Tahoe below Joe Borough group who was the first one tule Tahoe below Tonga below that gets Tahoe. The lower know that I'm telling you that's what it is. I have spoken with Eli gold, Alabama's play-by-play guy and it's Tonga below Congo below Tonga Tonga below.

Let's just edit. I've heard you botch this name like five ways Josh go to the two quarterbacks conjunction. Given the all right. Can we just edit this all out and pose job and I guess you just count me down, three to Z ago. No one ever says go when you never say go to point to one point) is looking very cheap. 3202 Tonga follow-up, sort of, sort of being not in the same group.

Justin Herbert is not in the same group is to okay I see that point yet.

I'm looking on twitter and I met you Chris Sims twitter. He says Herbert out there putting on a throwing show. It's effortless and powerful than 10 minutes later Justin Herbert's really impressive thrower rose perfect spirals every throw powerful and effortless and then 30 minutes after that. Oh yeah, Justin Herbert is a freaky athlete, great twitter like watching the sky just throw while wearing tights, and indeed nobody's guarded bees receivers what's what is Chris Sims doing there like a show I think with Florio know I get it, but like is he can be held accountable at all for you, no misjudgments or anything, but still having I know he still riding the wave saying Omar Jackson was the best quarterback in the draft a few years ago. So now he's he's quarterback I that's what it took years sir, but like his his job responsibility even look it's ridiculous that there's there are people whose jobs are primarily how's the student looked at this event and how does that project into something totally separate. I personal action Jason Kuipers like sure I understand why they exist, but like Sims, is he's just he's just there just like he's a will guy is like, you know, PE is he's turned into one of these editorialist more than a reporter, and certainly more than a quarterback, but Herbert he doesn't belong in that top group. I'm scared to say the quarterbacks to stay away from it completely. Chris Sims is due to just like everybody else, but nobody really even tries the last name Tonga follow-up out yet. That being worthy.

Darren yeah you atrocity about whatever is just defeated already. Really six minutes of the segment third draft opinion.

The combine is it changing for me. Isaiah Simmons is going to be a top five tech there is no cemented position.

He set up like this is the criticism I'm so defeated the segment of Senate like it's crazy to me that I hear a players this good dropping in the draft because all well linebacker doesn't matter as much of football anymore and this guy yeah he don't know if he's an address or we don't know if he's a middle linebacker. We don't know quite where the put these were the most dominant football players I see Lasher Chase young these dominant but aside from Chase young. Is there a safer pic of the top 10. You can take then Isaiah Simmons because I don't think so. Like he is maybe. Aside from DeShawn Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, the most talented clams employer under Dabo Sweeney. I might go as far to say.

I don't think it's crazy to say that Isaiah Simmons. He should be a top five pick the Giants I could see them taking him I would be surprised if someone number three. Whether it's the Lions picking their somebody trading up selects him or the Dolphins or the Chargers. He's gonna get the number seven.

I don't think is good to get past five he's good to be a top. I pick so they had three draft opinions that the combine is it going to change for me. CD Lamb best wide receiver in this draft Justin Herbert doesn't really belong in the group at the top two quarterbacks in Isaiah Simmons is a top five pick in the draft in my mind. Darren, are you ready for it ears as I go over. Are you already did it work was a hold on I need to know if Robert was involved at all in the planning of that three non-combine takeaways have to segment that you just did there. You could say a piece of it. Robert loves the combine lot also is likely is some kind of sick joke for the very first segment that I met here I sit down Josh botches a pronunciation which he knows is good to eat away at me and then just gives me in the main NFL draft combine talk and I said I make it up to you.

See, this is Darren. He has to be so self-involved. He asked to stop you.

When you hear about we make sure were talking about something I like. Make sure you have my name on the segment and all mad to talk about the most time talking about something.

I live talk about the draft combine just where I don't care talk about it when I'm not in here.

You got two other hours it was so we talk about the most important stuff every segment clearly you started that segment saying the combine is not important. That's what I'm saying you can't let the combine effect. The big picture, which is the draft I love the draft. I hate the combine these these these things, they died together I got something to make it up to you though we have this seat we called the Sharon with Darren Robert once to change things up a little bit. He wants to little stale that he wants to make the sex more exciting. Yeah, I know last year yeah it's for me not for you, dear, that's right, you know you felt if you have to ice I get it trying to mix it up so last week we did staring at Darren and this is how that was when panic. This is just it just became. Let let's try a quick bit of staring with Darren here today, but jostled a little bit but messy but kept the same time. Always, always in your like for like you dance with those buttons on your shirt like he's like is this provocative need and if the answer is no. Take another button-down cleaner loses. They are so clear frame is nice to also nonreflective headed did very mindful of TV and Sutton with the Chapstick to use their brand look so moisturized with like Burt's bees.

Honestly that is staring with Darren. Robert wants to do something else though blaring with Darren. Okay, I will obviously need an explanation, but I thought I thought that maybe it had been missed typed.

I think it was your tweet Josh yes you have been known to others not happy with me about that you have been known in recent days to mean one thing but say another. So I just wanted to make its blaring over. Not all about BL Aaron Darren Dan interview yesterday. Let let's stop things for a second. Robert, how would you, Darren. Are you curious about what this is about. I am of course, Robert. How would you explain it. I guess I would say dear just just what is the first thing that comes your mind when you think of blaring like Paramore, so hold up. Are you accusing me Darren of just having missed sayings and miss missed opportunities and typos on social media in the air because it's quite insulting to do on my own show. All right� Not that the good bit of the answer. I didn't know that was good happen know I was you know it was just it was a punchline more than anything.

Like I said, I heard the interview voter voter weight.

What did you think I said I my ears all my God they hurt like we have time to do it again but your ears feel no. 00 but you might've been lying to her at a time out of time looking at the clock you are listening to WS yes with the Dillon WTO to Greensboro WPC burly WMF or Highpoint signals make it up sports on triad yeah get to the big four.

I think if that's cool with you Darren like this show is really something that has to pass by you. Now no that you clearly don't care about anything I have to say today, so that's what I've been blaring with their excuse me Capt. this, you make a call from the new TracFone wireless. What if you had to fly this plane was sitting back in the cabin.

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Check and drive Josh great. One of my favorite now with the picnics in the voice of the Carolina Panthers and I need somebody to get me away talking about NFL draft combines because I don't really know how much value there really is to what somebody runs with the cone drill or a 40 yard dash see an offense of lineman run in five or six seconds throughout the day. I don't really know what you get out of that, but there's a lot of things to talk about other than the combine. Fortunately, Mick. If were just focusing in on the fact that the Panthers pick number seven your pretty good over the years and you said you had no inside information with some of the guys that you've like, but in our past conversations you said Luke equally is a guy that you like out of Boston College and he turned out to be the ninth overall pick and you done this.

I think with Krista McCaffrey. Another time, and you been pretty good about this in recent years.

What prospect has captured your eye as you look ahead to the draft in a few months. Great hear your voice for your kind words also can year before the grant. Drafted and when Andrew Luckett announced he was going back to school to work on his architectural degree. Some of my coworkers were despondent and I said, worry not there to guide offer and will be fine.

I don't know Josh.

I'm on the weather for the content combine ideas for what they could have the combine in my backyard. I think our pulse rate would be about 56 I just it's just such a cattle call and so much analysis, so much energy is devoted to trying to find the final quantify the unquantifiable that I'm not sure if you asked me this question a couple weeks ago I would've said Justin Herbert, the quarterback 67 can sling it. But now I've heard that maybe he might be more of the amino probably go the first round, maybe baby to the Panthers. Who knows, but I've heard some people say he's more of a mid second round talent how you read what you think you will be take it strange I don't know if quarterback is the play just because you have so many needs. Obviously trading up and getting rid of Jeff capital, make a lot of sense when you have all time talent at linebacker. Surprisingly retired in your part ways with a weapon for whatever quarterbacks can be under center and Greg Olson and you obviously might want to bolster things up at wide receiver to the offense of line of defense of lines seem to be things that need to be addressed. I know the sexy pic is always to focus on the quarterbacks but if it's not Tula.

And it's not borough I IC Carolina to go in with an Isaiah Simmons from cleansing. I got a chance to watch a handful at times, or maybe Derek Brown from Alber like both convict Shay and Mel Kuyper Mott like it to quarterback that one nation where you don't want to reach but yet it's so vital that it's tempting to reach so I think that will further limit his question.

The solicitor showed good bit less couple weeks you doing an amazing job is always proud of your many successes but what you tell your audience here lately about your read on the cam Newton chelates. I think this regardless of how Carolina feels it is something where nobody wants to hear you say I don't know in the content driven world we leave. We live in. You can't say I don't know which is essentially what David Tapper said because when you say I don't know people can misinterpret that they can misconstrue that in turn that into your not committed to care. I don't know if that's connected to cam Newton going on Instagram and saying hey all, I want to little bit of commitment and you can even give me that maybe it is thought the right answer to the question from a PR perspective to is cam Newton going to return whether the questions be imposed. Cam like it was in Miami or David Tapper in that locker room a few weeks ago is he's on the roster.

We expect him to be here. We absolutely expected to be there.

Cam Newton.

He answered that the way so forcefully that you can't really disagree with it and if Tapper would've just said that publicly then I don't think anybody has any issues today and that's why I think that rule that an earlier this week that cam Newton is going to be the guy moving forward because he's on the roster and you got a show commitment to a guy who took me to the Super Bowl a few years ago because even if your intent is to trade the guy ultimately teams have to believe he's going to be your guy. If you want any value out of yeah like the second part of that. You said it, you're too young to have sold a house or to about one but I'm guessing maybe you may be bought or sold a vehicle and went to look the best when is it when have you pressure washer house clean the gutters don't abolish it looks the best when you're preparing to offload it and so I think that I do not know me I work there and I have no idea. It sometimes absorbed or gone day by day on on on how I think if you shake out. I saw cam the other day I walked into the cafeteria area behind him.

Soon after eat at this recent surgery and I just looked at this immense talent in this physical specimen. It looks great.

Of course, vegan and and yet just muscular and lien thought Mamma don't know maybe you don't want to maybe don't want to see this leave Charlotte on the business side, there is no replacing him unless it is a borough thing like that on the business side. Q3.

Hawaii got 50,000 people dollars. He's responsible for charity flying out of team store like Matt.

Now we could have certainly will be life after cam Newton.

But I think that your point.

If the Panthers are going to try to get some value for him that only works if Lee thanks that the Panthers don't really want to see them go anywhere. It's the voice of the Panthers big mixing with this your on sports outside. Have you watched much of the Tar Heels in basketball this year. No times 10 wanted to self flagellate or have been able to sleep and and and and thought about, maybe I should just put UNC basketball. I like the I think that from what I've heard, and I don't follow like you to hurt wrote coach we recruited well that he's he's packing coming in so it's not like we're seeing that you know the Great Wall come down.

I think Carolyn is going to be okay. Yeah. William C has four five-star kids at the coming next year for McDonald's all Americans that will be in but a lot of people are comparing this team to one of the worst we've seen in the last half-century. The eight and 20 team. The two years under Doherty.

What image or story stands out covering those teams as closely as you did. Working with Woody Durham at that the mandatory teams that I heard that one there but I heard they went after things were going sour. They waited till a group of people that like it went into telco starting that they thought he might have an anger management issue and that he told them that he didn't have anything you speak that the heck out of whoever suggested that he did throw a ball out of his office probably didn't happen exactly that way, but there were some good some bad.

In those years. One think I UNC fan didn't want to hear, then I don't want here now is will this should see this should make you appreciate all the successes. This should make you humble and feel great about times that have been a good time. That will come in that the pain of the moment.

Seeing that brand light blue the Argonaut unity feed them struggle against teams they would normally dispatch with hourly rate. It is a pill for many UNC fan, but it's been consistently good.

If the hardest thing it sports the Carolina Panthers team that I care the most about right now we been we've been around for over 1/4 of a century and have not yet had back to back winning what's the you're a big fan of music you on this show. Hearing your broadcast over the years. Always make like subtle references to pop-culture entertainment points in one of the ones you've made a number of times is talking about like the idea of stardom in the first name you usually go to is Mick Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones since the last time we chatted there to be playing at Bank of America Stadium and I know your huge music band, so I wonder what's the next show Vic Mixon would like to see a Bank of America Stadium if he had his way. Well, my apparat tried to limit my little story here that out.

I felt all the mistakes ride shotgun with me and were it not for her son my son by marriage, get married on May 2 we be at the Garth Brooks concert somehow someway would be in the upper deck sheet seat to get his backstage with Patricia. I don't know how we do it, but that show that show would be amazing. So you miss it because we got a wedding go to him and stops and is really tough to let you go you.

You never seem nervous at all this during the broadcast. You're always so confident you're always so calm and collected, always finding the right words but musically speaking. Give me the time Vic Mixon was most nervous about a show how my God plate that the fragrant Street band we got hard to play the Fourth of July fireworks at Keenan Stadium.

We some of that 12 or 13 so� Eight 2012 or 2013. So we get hard to play before hundred 30, 25, 30,000 people at Keenan stated and my my project lead singer in the band. She had a stomach thing going on, which I will give too many details about your on the radio, but she wants really good that day and so drive into that cake.

Knowing that there was going be 30,000 people waiting to hear her sing, I will survive it and and and and Cassie and Janet and Aretha all that that yet and she wasn't feeling her best.

That's the most nervous ever forget you guys were currently the Iron Maiden that she is answer the call and crushed it so you guys did well. I hope it's good to hear your voice back. I hope Don's doing well as well. Lachat sometimes. And thanks for doing this.

That is Mick. Mick said the voice of the Carolina Panthers whose always a delight to speak with. There aren't many guests that you have on who ask you the question is, and I appreciate them for it. You can never take us a minute off during a Mick Mixon interview come right back at you. We got to get to the house in the second, in order to sing some rhinestone cowboy because it's Friday so we do. Ever since Robert is rhinestone cowboy that has like this massive mania looks like a lion is you drive it you and I have a mutual friend to be self-indulgent, a bit here at Chris Lee mutual friend of ours who for a long time. I think seven or eight years he's been a sports reporter at WXII and upon me coming to Winston-Salem matter year and 1/2 ago. Chris was one of the first people to welcome me and he's been awesome, great, great dude.

Anytime I called on him a I love to have a guest in this spot. Love you to be here. Hey can you come in studio.

He's always tried to work is in and he's been very good to us and if you haven't heard by now Chris Lee is going to be not moving far away but going from the triad to the triangle going from W, X, I to W RAL in Raleigh were very happy for Chris were not gonna.

This is a good Bible cover to be CNM many of the same games ACC wise and probably the Carolina Panthers to but I just wanted to wish him luck. I don't know if he's listening right now but he's getting set for a 6 o'clock newscast tonight. I suggest you watch it because he is as if your sports fan and I assume you are listening to this right now. That's a guys done a lot when it comes to sports in this market. So watch them at six.

Watch about 11. We've done a number of weight zones together last year at EEs get a be great in Raleigh but a really good friend of mine that I am rooting for. I before we get to the house. I want to get your thoughts on this story that I think is just crazy. One of the best stories I've read on the inter-web's this week that headline my ex boyfriends new girlfriend is Lady Gaga. While the, the, this is written by Lindsay Crouse of the New York Times and there's a photo of Lady Gaga with pink hair and all walking into this year's Super Bowl in Miami Gardens and it's about this New York Times writer who found out that her exes dating Lady Gaga by seeing her newspaper somebody report.

Lady Gaga has a new boyfriend all that guy looks familiar. I think I used to kiss him passionately. And here's the question I have now let me preface a couple of things.

There's people that immediately have the reaction of the story.

I know I did. Oh that this guy cheated on her with Lady Gaga. That's not what this is. They dated for years. I think six or seven years and then they broke up, and this writer actually is engaged to somebody else so she just sees that somebody that she was with started dating Lady Gaga is the first thing you do immediate self reflection and inflection. Oh my gosh I bleeped up if if Lady Gaga is dating this person. Maybe I should've treated that person better maybe I should've worked things out there. Is it to wow things really turned out well for this person I care about or three man celebrity maybe isn't quite what I make it out to be. These are people and many of the same things I loved about this person, Lady Gaga, or whoever it might be might like this person as well. So there's a humanizing aspect to it. Which of those three things, maybe even something else. Do you think you feel in that moment the first thing I'm doing is comparing myself instantly. Yet whoever I'm like oh wow I'm not is a good a shape, they are probably not a smart boy. Not as witty.

My nose might be bigger everything that I could go through.

You are pretty self-conscious guy and UMass comedy with it like we were talking today you said you want to do well in New York City. You feel like you can pick fun of your voice. I would I pick myself apart. People would like your voice maybe maybe they wouldn't but doesn't will you be a 1/10 in New York.

I will here I would be with the rats may not be in the streets looking for a girl yes Aaron nauseous. I was thinking one ass out of yourself.

People usually love are excellent.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying to always think about.

Beyonc� has a ex-boyfriend out there somewhere.

All my summer out or some dude you today Beyonc� is just like I got a question what is this different though like it's it it would be like guys would look at Lady Gaga and say man I screwed this up at the girl when it bethink that you screwed this up.

If she sees the guy that she was once dating is dating Lady Gaga. I think that's totally different dynamic than you seeing somebody you want stated become famous.

This is what you want. Stated date someone who is of celebrity which I think is totally different. It is different, but it also poses a question what to me at least, what celebrity would you hate to see your ex with all the Davidson dude. It's ridiculous that we both think Davidson Davis is the guy because my ex that I'm going to make out with Kate Kate Beckinsale after dating areata ground get out of being engaged areata ground very good stand, especially just put out by the way, really good essay that are watching Isaiah I see I can I can put aside the stuff that's annoying and say the guys good at what he does. He's good, Robert. When we got to get the help. If you were gonna die on a ride.

Why the hell would you pick this one. I'm intrigued. We close out the week with ticket to the house next