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It should be a good one. It's a topic very dear to my heart. I always wanted to reach out to atheists, not because I never believed in God, but because I didn't believe God loved me.
And I know what it's like to be without God. And I hope that they'll be listening. Bobby wants to say hello. Yes. Bobby does want to say hello. It's going to be an interesting show about science and faith.
Apparently they can be combined, not necessarily needs to be exclusive. Tune in. Well, a lot of people argue that science does not go with faith, that the two don't make sense. But today we have a different story. The way that we love in the night gave me life, baby, I can't explain the way you hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me. Feels so holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. Oh God, run into the altar like a track star. Can't wait another second.
There's a way you hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, feels so holy. They say we're too young and the pimps and the players say, don't go crushing. Wise men say, fool's rushing. But I don't know. They say we're too young and the pimps and the players say, don't go crushing.
Wise men say, fool's rushing. I don't know. The Cure with Amy Cabo. Life can bring many difficult situations, domestic violence, addictions, poverty and even sexual abuse by your loved ones. Welcome, Amy Cabo and The Cure. Good afternoon and welcome to The Cure radio show. I'm your host, Amy Cabo, with my amazing partner, Boris.
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The song we played earlier was Holy by Justin Bieber and Chance the Rapper. And here's my take. Some of us tend to minimize and become proponents of less is more. The less it is about us, less drama we will feel as constantly others is more rewarding and more real. There will always be all kinds of challenging moments as life always comes up and down. It's OK to be hurt as there's no nirvana until until we reach heaven. Only God can turn it around. When God holds us, it's truly holy, a transformation difficult to explain, a peace felt within and greater understanding while feeling loved despite any pain. And that's what God can do for us.
Allow only what we can handle, almost as if everything life throws at us bounces right off. What would life be like if there was not a God or if we questioned his existence in the name of science? One does not have to exist without the other, and there's such evidence to that fact that a movie was created about it. So today we have Steven Huff, the executive producer of the movie Against the Tide, which scientifically proves that God exists. Having received degrees in physics from Hampton, Sydney College and California Institute of Technology, Steve went on to serve in the intelligence community, followed by establishing his own companies in Unix systems integration and geospatial imaging. After selling his company, Steve formed the Pensmore Foundation, whose primary focus is on the intersection of science and Christian worldview. After organizing several nationally acclaimed conferences on this topic, the foundation established Pensmore Films to more effectively bring the discussion of the compatibility of science, faith and human purpose to a global audience. Welcome to The Cure. You're now live.
Thank you for being here. Steve, such an interesting topic. Does science contradict religion and faith, or are they not mutually exclusive? They're certainly not mutually exclusive, and that idea is fairly recent. If you look at the history of science, most of the early founders of what we call modern science were in fact Christians who saw no conflict at all between their faiths and the fact that the universe is ordered.
In fact, quite the opposite. Because we think that God is an entity, a personal creator of the universe, and he gave us dominion over the universe, dominion over the earth in Genesis. In order to have dominion, you have to be able to study it.
In order to manage it, you have to be able to interpret it and make sense out of it in order to be a steward over any entity. It only makes sense from a Christian perspective that the universe should, at least to some large extent, be understandable by man. Well, you know, some people would argue Darwin's theory that it would explain the beginning of life. And so, what would you have to say about that, where science clashes with faith, that there is a creator, or that everything just exploded into perfect stuff?
Those are the areas where I think scientists predict for difficulty is in origin. So if you look down here, it really addresses what happens to life after it already exists. So it's the origin of the species after you already have some life existing, and the existing life has to have the ability to mutate and then adapt itself to the environment.
And I think everybody agrees that things do adapt to their environment, get some degree of evolution, if you will. The argument is, how does that start, and is it even powerful enough to explain all the species that exist and the time frame allowed? Now in Darwin's mind, people didn't understand how complex life was. And it's only really in recent years that people began to understand the enormous complexity of even a simple cell.
Back then, it was looked at as kind of a little blob of yellow, and it kind of makes sense that given their limited understanding that maybe you could take a blob of chemicals in chocolate or do something to it, somehow it would come to life. But with the discovery of DNA and the discovery of the trillions of cells that each of which has like a miniature factory inside with nano-machines building proteins and stuffling things in and out, it's just an incredibly complex system. And there's really been, and I think most biologists are honest about it, there's really no satisfactory scientific explanation of how life got started. We can talk about the origins of the universe as well. Right, so we're stuck with the theory that God created life. Well, I believe that God created life, so if you, there are all kinds of ways you can look at how long it took and that sort of thing, but you have to understand that if you go back to before you had life, you had to have a universe. And the universe is commonly accepted, began in a creation event some, you know, probably 14 billion years ago roughly, and with that creation event came into being everything that science studies or can study.
So mass, energy, but also space and time, because with general relativity and with the understanding of the big bang currently, you have to realize that space and time themselves came into existence at that point. So God himself, the creator, is outside of mass, energy, space, and time. Now it's really hard for us to understand what that means, because we are time-bound. It's hard, physics works with time.
You set up, you know, how a system is now and you predict using its laws how it will be in the future or how it may have been in the past. But God himself is alien to us in that regard. He is outside of time.
He's not bound by time. So he, if he creates the universe, he is creating it from outside of all the bounds that we have. Now it turns out, and it's been commonly recognized by every physicist, that the universe is extremely finely tuned to allow life in the first place. If things were at the constants of the universe or off in small amounts, you could not have life. So from what I'm understanding, Steve, it makes more sense that a deity created life, then something came out of nothing. Well, yes, but also you have to realize that something came out of nothing, they don't mean nothing. So when a physicist says the universe from nothing, they don't mean nothing the way you and I mean it when we speak in general terms. They mean a quantum vacuum in which all the laws of physics are already operating.
So there's, I don't know if they still teach in school the fallacy of equivocation, but they subtly change the meaning of words, which confuses the public and allows them to sell lots of books. It's very engaging to think of a universe from nothing. When they say a universe from nothing, they mean the beginnings of the universe based on physics as we know it.
There was a very famous scientist, Richard Kleinman, probably the top physicist of the second half of the time. Well, that's why I want to explain why integrating science and faith is so important when we return after this short break. Stay with us, we would love to hear from you.
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Why do I run back to you like I don't mind if you ruin my life? Thinking about you, you're in my head. And now we will continue with Amy Cabo and the Cure. Welcome back to the Cure with Amy Cabo and thanks for tuning in.
Remember that you can listen to the radio show live through our app The Cure with Amy Cabo or later as a podcast, whatever podcasts are. The song that just played was Monsters by Black Bear. I thought I was addicted and I was destined to be hurt. The enemy's misleading. The night can be deafening and darkening. And if we entertain the negativity, we see our spirits slowly fading. So many times it look attractive, pretty bold, staring at us when life was difficult to face. Those pretty lies that said they loved us, what actually pretty fake.
Those monsters, they do come out at night. The ones that have us thinking about the things that bring us down and the actions we will regret that take away our fight. Little did I know that not even medications that I need, as long as I chose God. It was truth that ruled my head and life revived within all that had been dead. You keep on rhyming.
We should probably do a poet poem or something. We're talking to Steve Hoff showing that God and science are not mutually exclusive. Steve, you have been involved in many projects helping integrate science and faith. Why do you think it's important? I think it's important because it goes back to the essence of who we are. If you look at a lot of the problems that we have in society today, because people look at other people in radically different ways. If you look at your fellows and you say you're a child of God, you have a very different attitude for them and their worth. You feel very differently about your own self-worth than if you take the scientific materialist view that you're a bag of worrying atoms that evolved randomly over a few hundred million years to billions of years. That is really such a fundamental point that makes it difficult to bind together any society or to have a reasonable conversation.
Unfortunately, it affects people in very deep ways. If you were raised in a society, say 200 years ago, where essentially all the leading scientists had no difficulty, then you have a very different view of your own self-worth. Today, if you're raised in a scientific materialism context, which is the case for many, many people today, many people have never darkened the door of a church.
All they know about Christianity is what they hear from a popular culture. They think of themselves as basically chemical robots with no soul, with no eternal aspects to them. There is no God, there is no value to their life, and that leads to the kind of totalitarian and communist abuses that we've seen over the years. So I think it's critically important how we see ourselves, how we see our own worth. Yes, this is a broken world. The Bible tells us that this world is cursed. If Adam walked away from God, the day will come and we'll walk more directly with God, but that day is not here yet.
Yes, we're living in a broken world, but there is something very special about us. Consciousness and our sense of morality, our sense of right and wrong, our sense of wanting to worship God, those are all very real, and they're actually all more fundamental than physics itself. I look at physics as being basically God's will, the instantiation of the universe for us to live out this current life, but physics does not rule God. God rules physics. As far as I say, there's a very famous professor, Feynman, who was an atheist, but he talked about physics as discovering the rules of the game. God is the one that makes the rules of the game. Physics cannot explain why there are rules to the game or why those rules are so finely tuned without themselves resorting to fairy tales of multiple possibilities of infinite numbers of universes, so we just must happen to be in one that works. Well, that's purely a metaphysical statement.
You can't test it. It's not science. I think everybody has to ask themselves, what really makes the most sense for the kind of world that we see ourselves in, the kind of feelings that we have, our desire to worship, our appreciation of art and music, our sense of right and wrong and morality? Is that really explained by random mutations and creatures that adapt themselves better to their environment? But then what's the point of mathematics?
What's the point of a brain that can understand mathematics, much less art or physics? I wanted to pick up on something that you mentioned about totalitarianism. I'm from Bulgaria. It's an ex-communist country, and religion was forbidden. I remember these times. Atheism was the gold standard. If you watch the movie that you did, you depicted that very well. People were literally going to jail for going to church. Why do you think that was so done that way so we can help totalitarianism? Why is faith actually fighting it? I think if you don't have a transcending sense of what is right and wrong, then people become their own little gods. People want to bend everybody else's will for their own. If you live in a totalitarian state and you have that power, power corrupts, absolutely, that's exactly what you see.
There are no brakes on. That's what you saw in the totalitarian state. But you also saw that it was very difficult to eradicate faith. God writes that in our hearts, and as Roman says, we may suppress it, but it's still there.
It's still going to come up. I think they were unsuccessful, but the amount of damage they can do to so many millions of lives was incredible. Professor Lennox was providentially able to visit a number of those places and relay his story in the film. It's a very powerful story of what an atheistic viewpoint leads to.
Steven, why make the movie Against the Tide now? How did you come about that concept? We started to address this topic through a series of conferences several years ago.
The conferences were very engaging to the people that were able to attend, but only small numbers of people can attend conferences. Professor Lennox is a very engaging person with a compelling life story. He's been compared to the modern-day C.S. Lewis. He has a lot of common early in the background of C.S.
Lewis. He has that Irish charm. He's able to relay complex ideas to the public in a very engaging manner. He also has debated himself many of these famous atheists, Dawkins and Hitchens and so on. So we recognized that he had this powerful story to tell, and it was time to tell that story in a way that many more people in the public would be able to benefit from it. And we could capture it and preserve it for the ages.
Especially when he represents scientific proof of such a thing, which is everybody's biggest argument. We will talk about that when we return from this break. Stay with us.
We will be right back with Amy Cabell and The Cure. This is a Love Language Minute. A listener writes, Gary, I'd like to start a marriage discipleship group at our church. Where do I begin? I think you begin by talking to your pastor. Let him know your passion. Let him know your vision.
Let him know what you would like to do. I suggest you start very simply. Choose five couples in your church that you think have a fairly good marriage and tell them that you're choosing them because you think they have a healthy marriage. And you want to have the experience of leading them through a marriage enrichment program. And then you choose a program.
You can choose some from my materials or you can choose from other materials. And you take those five through the program. At the end of that, one or two of them will say, hey, we could lead a group like this. You recruit them. You let them lead the next group.
And then you start another group. Doesn't take long until you're taking really scores and scores of people through a marriage enrichment program. Dr. Gary Chapman is the author of The Five Love Languages.
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Over being so much more if only I was never yours. Oh, I could save myself. I could save myself. I should have played myself. I could have saw you coming.
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iTunes, baby. Another great song that just played called Save Myself by Ash. We learned from our experiences of which some of which some we might find quite funny. Looking back, it was a lot.
It seemed to rain even on days that it was sunny. God saw us through our times of playing milk and honey and worked it out for the good because he saw it. Always saw it coming. It's a process in the making. It can be difficult and long, only making us mad. But as we mature and grow, we stop the blame. We give it up, the fame and the shame.
We can save ourselves, certainly money and time. Always moving forward with God who strengthens us, for his providence is divine. You're doing it on purpose, aren't you?
Like rhyming. We're talking to Steven Hough about faith and science. Steven, we talk about all these things.
You know, you're a technical person, too. Do you have questions sometimes about faith? Were you raised a Christian? I was raised in a Christian home and in basically a Christian society at that point. But I had a lot of questions as a young person.
I was always very interested in physics. Even back then, I had a lot of questions about how Christianity could be reconciled. I didn't find a lot of good answers until much later. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to do this film against the tide, is to bring this kind of information to younger people today. The information is out there.
You just have to seek it out. To be comfortable with the intersection of science and faith does not mean you have to be a scientist or have to have a math skill. It's really pretty elementary logic. Professor Lennox, although he's a mathematician, he won't lead you through a lot of mathematical proof.
He really dissects the basic logic. It's not that you can prove that there's a God. You can show a preponderance of the evidence and you can certainly demonstrate that there is no conflict between science and God.
That's what's different today. It doesn't explain that science somehow has disproven God. That somehow science has given God nothing to do. That science explains everything. That physics explains physics. That's just simply untrue.
I mean, it's still a lot of books. They're basic logical fallacies in their arguments. And Lennox is very good at explaining that in a very engaging way. I mean, does everything have to have an explanation? How do we have logic? How do we have a conscience?
How do we have the drive to do good or help others? Where's that coming from? Our strength, our knowledge, because I swear I say things that come to me for the first time.
I'm teaching myself, too. So where does all that come from? You know, it's impossible that there isn't a creator behind it. The way that there's so many symbiotic relationships in the world.
How intricate and complicated our body systems are and our minds. Could this have arrived from nothing? It's almost so perfect. It had to come from someone perfect.
Well, I think that's the key. The whole business of consciousness is completely unexplained by science. I mean, you can imagine, I don't know how you would get a start at the time allow, but you can imagine if you had a robot that was self-replicating and it adapted itself better and better to the environment.
It might be better and better at extending its lifespan and propagating itself and so on, avoiding its enemies. But how does it become conscious? And what does consciousness even mean? When I was young, people working in artificial intelligence were very confident that by two or three decades ago, machines would be conscious, would be sentient. In fact, you may remember the movie 2001, Space Odyssey, where in that movie by 1970, computers had become conscious and were basically artificial intelligence, much like a human would be. And the argument back then was, well, computers are getting faster all the time, and we know about how many gates are in the human brain, so by a certain date, we'll have this much computing power. It'll be equivalent to a human, so somehow consciousness will emerge. But we're no more closer to that now than we were back then, even though computers are massively faster.
And so they've kind of given up on that. This whole business of being aware that you are aware is very inexplicable. It's an ineffable phenomena that is built into us, built into life, that totally defies any kind of scientific explanation.
We don't know what it is. To be a real scientist, you have to be able to measure something. You can't measure things like that, not really.
There's no consciousness meter that you can flip onto an animal and say, you know, you have 287 units of consciousness. It's just a great mystery. What you mentioned about our sense, our in-built sense of wanting to worship our appreciation of art and music and literature, what evolutionary value is to that? It's very hard to come up with pretty contrived explanations to try to account for that under an evolutionary model. And by the way, it's not just Christians that have noted this. Just the scientific problems with it have been noted by honest people, honest scientists for many years. Fred Hoyle, the famous British cosmologist that discovered the carbon resonance, which allows carbon to be built more easily than stars, which of course is necessary for life. He was an atheist, but he was so staggered by what he discovered in terms of the fine-tuning laws of physics that he said, it's as if some super intellect that monkeys with the laws of physics to allow us to be here. And that's coming from an atheist, but an honest atheist. And that's when it comes to science where people want to measure things and stuff like that. But when does it come to try to make sense out of things that people could originally believe in God, but then they see so much tragedy or they experience so much tragedy, they wonder how can a God that love us allow this and therefore there must be no God?
Well, that's a difficult problem. Certainly it's not so much the scientific problem as a theological issue. But again, I think if you go back to Genesis, we shouldn't be surprised, because in the beginning everything was good, God pronounced everything good. And we sinned. Adam and Eve disobeyed God, in effect holding we wanted to be on our own. We didn't want to live under his dominion. And so the world was cursed, they were cast out of the garden into this naturalistic entropy-driven world, which there's predation, and we survive now by the sweat of our brow.
It's a very different kind of world. So in a sense we are living out what it's like to live without the immediate presence of God. And I think in the life to come, we will again be restored to that relationship, and you know, realize that it's a mistake to want to live without God.
It's very necessary, in some sense, that I don't fully understand, to go through this period of trauma and testing in order to have that understanding. Well, you know, God saw it coming. I think that's why he put deliver us from evil for us to pray daily under our Father. Because he wanted to protect us. And, you know, he never promised us good times. And he said that, you know, for his children, that they will always be protected, that no harm will come to them. I don't think he meant bad things won't happen, and that you won't be challenged, but that it won't kill you, and that you'll survive it, and that it will pass. For his children, if you're not with him, then you can go crazy and end up homeless or something worse. I know what it's like to be without God.
I think I had to know that so that I can understand how scary it is, how painful it is, and how much I want to reach out to those who have given up on hope. So, Stephen, tell us about the places that you traveled for the film, Against the Tide. Why did you go to specific places? Were you able to prove that history has a correlation to the point that you're making the movie? Let's do that after the break. We would love to hear from you. Carlos, 1866, 34th Route, do you think science and faith has something to do with each other?
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The song that just played was One Thing Right by Marshmello and Kane Brown. I have been all sorts of things and experienced quite a lot. It's helped me to be more understanding and paved the way for helping others. I've broken down to feel more human and realized how much I needed God. Despite how wild and crazy I once was, feared by most and laying low, dodging troubles that showed up constantly at my door. God never gave up on me, even when I did on him. I was lost and mostly wrong, running with the wrong crowds and searching for happiness that could not last. Everything I gained did not work out as if I carried a dark cloud. Until God brightened the way and I realized his love was real and here to stay.
That was the one thing I did right as everything soon after fell into place. I handle everything much better. As long as I stay close, I can keep up the pace.
Even timing seems on my side and everything works out as long as I abide. And now from God, I no longer hide. More grace than I can imagine I have received for sure. It's more than what this world can offer.
It's that which will endure. We're talking to Stephen Huff about science and faith. We have a guest on the line.
Let me see if we can. David, do you have a question? I had a comment. Go ahead. Yes, sir.
I heard someone mention that... It sounds like someone still has a question whether God exists or not. I think we're missing a bigger point here. God was incarnated in a man and his name is Jesus the Christ. He existed for roughly 33 years, as we know, in the flesh.
Before he was crucified and resurrected to be with the Father. And I think that's overlooked. The Lord and Savior of my life is Jesus. And I believe he had me listen to your radio show, which I've never heard prior to 15 minutes ago.
And I'm sitting here in the pickup truck with the wife and the kids. But I believe we definitely do not need to overlook the most important thing in our lives. The Creator of mankind is Jesus. If you go to John 1 in the Book of Life, you will see that Jesus is the Word of God. He is the manifest Word of God. There you are.
He is God in the flesh. You are so true. That's what we're trying to prove. That science actually proves that God created all. Thank you David from North Carolina.
You're the best. So let's go back to Stephen. We were talking about the places that you went to do the movie. Why did you pick those specific places? Well we began in Oxford. That's where John is a professor of mathematics.
It's also where C.S. Lewis at the Eagle and Child used to with Tolkien would discuss their works together. And so John was also educated at Cambridge where much of modern science originated. If you think back to how we got to where we are today in terms of the world of science, the dominant genius in history was Sir Isaac Newton who invented calculus, discovered the laws of motion, set the foundations for thermodynamics and optics, went from basic proportionality to where we could compute the planets and all that. And he was at Cambridge where John earned his Ph.D. in mathematics. So I think it's appropriate as a backdrop for what science has become to visit those places where it originated.
They're very grand places and they were once very much dominated by a theological view that accepted Christianity. Sir Isaac Newton himself it's estimated actually wrote more on religion than he did on physics. He looked at the universe as a riddle set by God that man could unravel. We then travel to, and this is also the thing I should say, some of the debate talks between Richard Dawkins and Professor Lennox. But we then traveled to Israel.
It was in line with what the previous caller said. I can only agree completely, amen and amen. The idea that God created the universe is only a small part of it. God did much more than that.
He instantiated himself as Christ at a real time in history, at real places, and redeemed us. So the second part of the film tells that story. John Lennox and Kevin Sorbo visit those areas and they tell the story of what really happened and present the evidence.
Now, of course, there are no video cameras back then. You don't have scientific proof in the sense that you have proof of the Pythagorean theorem or something. But they demonstrate the evidence. They show that we're not talking about Zeus and Mount Olympus.
We're talking about real events in history that actually occurred and that they are critical to the future of the wallops of mankind, that we understand that. We're not talking about a deist God that created the universe and walked away. We're talking about a God that redeemed us from our sins, that came to earth and suffered and died for our sins and our sins, that we might be right with God the Father. The God that could be three beings as one. When I speak about God, I'm talking about Jesus.
They're all one and the same to me. God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I just say God in general.
I'm sure he was first, but it's all the same in the one. And I'm thankful for that color because we must always mention Jesus. He is our salvation. Stephen, how can we see against the tide? We live in a world where faith is not popular, where religion is often questioned, where people fear conversations about religion and science.
What's the best way to go against the tide? If you go to the website, againstthetide.movie, it'll have a list of theaters that are near you. More theaters all the time are signing up.
There's currently, I think, something with 500 theaters nationwide that will be showing one night only, November 19th. So get your friends, get your church group, especially young people and parents, go see this film. A world-renowned professor of mathematics at Oxford who's been doing this all his life debating the leading atheists will explain in very clear terms why there's nothing to fear, but religion has nothing to fear. Christianity certainly has nothing to fear from science at all, that science is under the domain of God, not the other way around. And I think that this movie is, we feel, critically important to provide that vaccination, if you will, against the kind of half-truths that young people are exposed to today.
That is important. Hey, and the way I see it, I mean, I can understand why there's some people that get discouraged and feel like there isn't a God, but in a world like this world, in a world like today, to live life and to go through circumstances without a God, without someone to turn to, without someone to believe in, without hope, it's really scary. And even if you didn't believe Him, would you rather be wrong and say, oh, there's no God, and find out later you were wrong? Or would you rather say, oh, there's a God? We have only a few minutes left. And find out later you were right. This is the end of the show, guys, so we're going to close out. I know that just in case there's a God, I'd rather be right.
Yes, you are right. Thank you, Steve Hall, for being on The Cure, helping us show to our listeners that faith does not exclude science. And more information on his movie, Against the Tide, can be found on Against the Tide. That movie. That movie. And also, faith, I mean, science doesn't exclude faith either. So we're going to finish with a prayer, guys, as we always do, if I don't hit the microphone again. A scientist's prayer.
Yeah, we found a nice one. Dear Creator God, today we are seeking to understand more about you and the way you made the world. We know your thoughts are as high above ours as the heavens are above the earth. Isaiah 55, 9. But we also know you love to fill us with your wisdom when we ask for it. James 1, 5.
We come to you knowing you have all the power and authority. Matthew 28, 18. It is only when we fear you and place our mind under yours that we can really know anything. Proverbs 1, 7.
Remembering you is also what we need to develop theories and think through how to use the facts we uncover. Proverbs 8, 12. Thank you, Jesus, for being the root and foundation of science. John 1, 1-4.
The word equals logos. Thank you for translating God's truth into a language we can understand. John 1, 14.
John 14, 9. Please guide our thoughts and actions to the best way to uncover the truth. Bless us with wisdom to see what natural people would never dream of looking for. Most of all, Lord God. We ask that all we discover may reveal more of your glory.
May we recognize in a deeper way your genius orderliness. 1 Corinthians 14, 33. And beauty, Psalm 27, 4. For yours is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever.
Matthew 6, 13. Amen. Thank you also to our new audio producer, Beth Ann, for playing my songs and making the show sound good. And thanks to Robbie Dilmer of Kingdom Pursuit and the Christian Car Guy show for his guidance. And of course, thank you to our listeners for being with us and bringing more than 71,000 podcast downloads. This is Amy Kavo. You have been listening to The Cure. Please check our podcast, The Cure, with Amy Kavo, our app, The Cure, or our website, GodIsTheCure.com. Please subscribe to the podcast.
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