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How the US Failure in Afghanistan Effects the World Order

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August 19, 2021 8:00 pm

How the US Failure in Afghanistan Effects the World Order

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August 19, 2021 8:00 pm

Guest: Soeren Kern, geo-political analyst, Gatestone Institute

What we have seen this past week with the United States’ ill-planned and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan, stranding 10,000 of our own citizens in the midst of a country completely overrun by the Taliban, a radical Islamic group, is a vivid portrait of weak, foolish, and confused civilian and military leadership and the diminished state of our nation.

The most prosperous, powerful, and freest nation the world has ever known is on the wane, reaping the judgment of rejecting God, His Word, and His ways.

Think that’s a bit hyperbolic? Think the “pendulum will swing the other way”? Think “This is America—land of the free and home of the brave”? We suggest you read this column, then turn to Scripture and think about how God deals with nations which reject Him, especially those which were exceedingly blessed by Him.

The new lows of moral decadence, financial recklessness, corruption, and self-loathing that characterize our nation today and the timidity of the church to proclaim the only remedy, guarantees that the American empire will be yet another added to history’s ash heap. The timing is in God’s hands.

Soeren Kern, follower of Christ and geopolitical analyst for the Gatestone Institute, joins us on The Christian Worldview to discuss “How the US Failure in Afghanistan Effects the World Order.” He will also emphasize what Christians and the church should be pursuing diligently in these times.

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How the US failure in Afghanistan affects the world that is a topical discuss today right here on the Christian worldview radio program mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview. Christians and to share the good news of Jesus Christ and the host Christian worldview is a nonprofit radio program thinking to you, our listeners, for your encouragement and support, and also for national sponsor Samaritan mistreats you can find out more website the Christian worldview.get into the preview for today's program just a couple things about our recent programs you done this year on covert, 19 you had listeners and friends getting in touch. You either contract the virus and have questions about treatment and now are getting questions about those in businesses or in their line of work or there's going to be a covert injection mandates going on now for those of you who don't want to get the injection.

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If you do want to go that treatment route rather than the mainstream treatment route for covert. Let's get to the preview for today's program how the US failure in Afghanistan effects the world order. Know what we have seen this past week with the United States. Ill plant and inapt withdrawal from Afghanistan, stranding at least 10,000 of our own citizens in the midst of a country completely overrun by the Taliban at a radical Islamic group is a vivid portrait of week foolish and confused civilian and military leadership in our country today and the diminished state of our nation, the most prosperous, powerful and freest nation the world has ever known is on the wane.

I sad to say, reaping what I believe is the judgment of rejecting God his word and his ways. If you think that's a bit hyperbolic you think the pendulum is somehow going to slow swing the other way and you think that this is America after all the land of the free and home of the brave. We suggest you read the column we have linked in the preview for today's program by Don Federick on the fall of nations where he talks about the state of affairs in our country right now and after you read that column. Then turn to Scripture and think about how God deals with nations which reject him, especially those who have greater accountability because he gave them so much to begin with so much Christian founding and development.

The new lows of moral decadence, financial recklessness, corruption, and self-loathing is a nation that characterize our country today and the timidity of the church to proclaim the only remedy the gospel biblical truth guarantees that the American Empire will be yet another added to histories as sheep of empires. The timing of one that takes place is squarely in God's hands. Soren Kern was a follower of Christ in a geopolitical analyst for the gate stone Institute joins us today in the Christian worldview all the way over from Europe to discuss how the US failure in Afghanistan effects the world order. He will also emphasize what Christians in the church should be pursuing diligently during these times, let's get straight to the interview with Soren Kern, Soren. It is so good to have you back on the Christian worldview radio program, greetings from America over to you in Europe. I want to start out today by talking about this complete and utter failure of the United States and in their withdrawal from Afghanistan how that's going to effect the world order.

We spent 20 years in Afghanistan spent over $1 trillion, 25, nearly 2500 Americans were killed. We announce this pullout in advance. Present Trump actually announced that one of the get out of Afghanistan. They most Americans were in agreement we should stay there indefinitely, but in this pullout that Pres. Biden orchestrated there was immediate takeover by a terrorist group called the Taliban that the leader I've heard of the Taliban, who is the leader of in the country now was was one who had been released from Guantnamo Bay in in Cuba, a US base there in exchange for Bo Bergdahl if you remember that story. I know that's true or not, that's I've heard US embassies been abandoned the Afghan president fled to another country with hundreds of millions of dollars. Reportedly, US military equipment was taken over technology loss taken a deer ran other places, thousands of Americans are currently trapped as of this conversation today and we saw images of Afghans and other people flooding the airport tarmac in Kabul, capital hanging on and falling from planes desperate to get out of the country was a know is going to take place executions in the streets. As a matter fact, let me display a quick soundbite of what Pres. Biden said when asked about the horrifying images of people falling from airplanes that they were hanging onto an effort to leave Kabul airport in Afghanistan, but we've all seen the pictures you seen those hundreds of people packed into the C-17 leasing Afghans established four days ago five days ago what you think when you first saw this picture. So let me follow the reasoning here since this happened a few days ago. It really doesn't matter as much anymore. Meanwhile, the Biden administration's message to American citizens who are contacting the State Department to to get out of the country. Is this as follows, and I quote to American citizens.

Thank you for registering your request to be evacuated from Afghanistan US Embassy in Afghanistan has confirmed that an undefined number of US government provided flights will begin soon. Please make your way to Hamid Karzai international Airport at this time. Please be advised that the United States government cannot guarantee your security as you make this trip to the airport. My first question for you. Soren is just to put into perspective on any angles that you been thinking about how much of this withdrawal. This event this moment has diminished the United States sure David, thank you very much for having me on your program.

It's always a pleasure I think is really is a turning point in the world order. Since the end of the second world war. After the United States developed atomic weapons when the second world war, the United States sort of came. We could call a world policeman. There is no world policeman right now, the United Nations, the European Union and other countries are not able to maintain a certain semblance of stability in the world and particularly very important is the ceilings that bring product through an oil example through the Middle East through the Suez Canal through different shipping lanes in East Asia. Panama Canal. Obviously. So basically the United States has provided a great deal of stability over the last 70 or 80 years. I can understand the both sides of the debate about whether the United States should stay should have stayed in Afghanistan or whether the United States should have left really at some it's not that easy to determine who is right and what's wrong because both of these positions have very valid points for the future of stability, particularly in Asia and vertically with the rise of China on in my mind it was a very big mistake to give up the background Air Force Base in Afghanistan because it really gave the United States a presence very close to China at a time where China has really trying to become the top player in international affairs. I think basically the problem really was a sloppy way in which this whole withdraw occurred in my view politics had a lot to play with it. Pres. Trump negotiated a deal that the United States will be out in May. Joe Biden's.

He did not want anything to do with Pres. Trump steel. He basically said that she wanted the troops out the light by July 4 as a symbolic gesture and when that was not materialized. He said he wanted them out by September 11 that these are all sort of dictates that our political symbolism so that Pres. Biden good declare a sort of a victory in this whole Afghanistan issue. Pres. Biden did not take the advice of many of his advisers. Many think tanks on the intelligence community, and I think that problem really to my mind is that there was no plan B there was no real preparation for how to handle the withdraw. According to my number there 40,000 Westerners that would be Jan, Americans, Europeans, Canadians, Australians in Afghanistan right now and most of those are not able to get to the airport and is really astonishing to me that the United States decided to pull out the troops before ensuring the safety of particular Americans but of Westerners in general so you can see on many many different levels. There were many mistakes made very sloppy, inexcusable mistakes and what I'm trying to get at here is really is that this is a really dangerous assignment were sent into the world, but US reliability US commitments to its allies and of course the whole issue. How much longer is United States committed to maintaining stability in a very dangerous world.

So I think this really is a turning point where people particular allies in NATO. I'm sure that Taiwanese and Japanese.

The Koreans all the countries that are close to close to China are beginning to think like is United States reliable are these treaties that the United States has signed to provide us with defense are are they reliable and I think this is really beginning to unravel. What's called Pax Americana. The sort of world stability that the United States has insured more or less you know there's been a lot of wars. Obviously a lot of ice is send the Vietnam War in the postwar talk about general stability of the Western established order.

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We don't have a devoted collective large numbers of people so I just want you to think about that for a second what he just said we have the capability of going to to extract someone an individual and in a difficult extreme situation used the term in extremis in a difficult hard situation but then that though there were journals followed up right away again said do you have the ability to extract this large number of Americans in Kabul and in Afghanistan. He said no we don't. This is the most powerful country in the world who is now left American citizens behind and as the strongest military in the world. We don't have that ability that just that that's us with the defense secretary of United States of America just said what what is your your thoughts and how this could possibly be the place where we find yourself as a country. Soren the Defense Department had months, more than a year to prepare for this, so this really inexcusable. To my mind, there are other factors at play. We've all seen the Joint Chiefs of Staff warning about openness, worrying about cultural issues bring about the rights for transgender people in the military. It seems to me that the senior leadership at the Pentagon and in the in the Defense Department and and elsewhere have completely lost focus on what their role is what their job is to win wars to provide stability to protect American interests abroad and what really happened with United States foreign policy over the last 20 years it is been focused on exporting certain types of values on whether it's on promoting homosexuality abroad is a plank of the State Department's foreign policy is this obsession with sexuality in Africa in the Middle East in different countries making it safe for these people to do to practice there what they practice. So you know I think what we're seeing right now is a complete collapse of the institutions where they lost focus on what they are primary responsibilities because they become so focused with all this other stuff that doesn't really matter that sort of part part of the cultural zeitgeist, and this really is very concerning. Because it takes generations to reverse this sort of mentality we have these cultural warriors. I guess you could call them all levels of the bureaucracy of the foreign policy bureaucracy.

I was going through some of the past weeks. Recent tweets of different under secretaries of State and its obsession with gay-rights with homosexuality with champ transgender rights. It's like United States is completely lost. The focus that we are in a existential war battle were in a Cold War right now with China and China is so focused on being number one China so focused on taking down United States in the United States. Elise are focused on things that are completely have no relevance to modern geopolitics, and I see this you know going back to the stability thing very very worrisome. II think the next few years certainly, decades are going to be extremely conflictual, extremely tumultuous because without a leader without United States taking the role of sort of keeping a lid on things. Anarchy and chaos are right around the corner.

There is no question about that when you have as big of an empire strong as a military strong as an influence of the United States that it has been in the world that is diminished in any way the world order is going to going to change and I completely agree with your your statement about the obsession with the military the State Department on homosexuality and transgender is him out there to help protect those homosexuals want to practice what they want to practice what they want to practice his sin and it is abominable and this country it says in Romans one.

This country is in a Romans one situation were God gives them over. That is the judgment were God pulls back his judgment on the nation I and I strongly believe I know you I think you do to look into that in a minute here that God has pulled back his protection. His blessing on this country because of our perception with going deeper and deeper into sexual perversion promoting it. Ironically enough, just in June, I saw an image in a tweet. I think it was of the LGBT Q flagged the homosexual transgender flag flying over the embassy in Kabul. How ironic that there and they tweeted something about it today. We do this and were promoting the rights and values of homosexual, transgender, and whatever intersectional people everywhere, and so forth. How ironic. Two. Two months later that embassy is abandoned in America is perceived as a a week feckless power in this world.

One thing that's been happening.

Soren throughout this entire thing is going on in Kabul is this is creating a huge immigration crisis, people are trying to get out of the country. They know full well that the tele-bands is a very very highly Islamist moralistic punitive worldview and their try to get out of the country both linked to nations around there.

Also to Europe and now there's a big portion United States we must take all these Afghans into the United States. Tens of thousands of them not vetted, and so forth. What is the immigration consequence going to be on Europe was saying more specifically on yet stay.

Soren yellow Europe is definitely going to bear the brunt of this new crisis on the German Foreign Minister the German Interior Ministry yesterday said that he estimates that there will be between 300,000 and 5 million Afghans leaving the country over the next year or two so what we saw in 2015 with that migration crisis with Syria and German Chancellor Angela Merkel open the borders. Maybe there were 1,000,002 million people that came in so were talking now is a new crisis on the horizon that will dwarf what we saw in 2015 and you know I have nothing against Afghans by the Afghans.

At least let's say, anecdotally, have been extremely extremely difficult to integrate into European society. Other countries in the Middle East and Rockies Syrians. I guess somewhat meeting more about European influences. I don't know they have been a bit easier to integrate into European society.

But the Afghans have been particularly problematic and so I really don't see how the Europeans are going to be able to avert this European Union right now to 27 members are very divided on some countries are saying that they should. They have a moral duty to take them there migrants in the Austrians are saying no way that it's time now to for that. After that wasn't countries to start taking in some of these migrants that should be all on Europe start I guess you know really bothers me. It concerns me a lot is that the fact that now the United States no longer has a presence in Afghanistan. We no longer have an ability to monitor as closely as we should all the Islamist groups and really all these weapons that have not been left for you know the Taliban. These are going to filter their way through the black markets and other Islamist groups whether Al Qaeda or all the other jihadist groups.

These weapons are going to make their way into Europe.

I see I see that this is going to be feeling a resurgence in the jihadist campaign in Europe for the last year so it's been more or less under control thanks to a lot of intelligence gathering really what we've done now is time given the whole jihadist movement in Europe, a new birth and so with this mass migration of people and Alexi said, many of them are not vetted them are not vetted double they don't even have documentation. I see just a catastrophe from a security perspective ahead I see a lot more jihadist attacks a lot more moral fuel to the Islamists because they're going to be able to say that Islam has defeated the world superpower and that means that all law is with them so you can see a rebirth of Al Qaeda most certainly the Taliban are going to be, cooperating with groups in Pakistan in Iran in Syria it's only a matter of months. To my mind until we start seeing the consequences of this Soren Kern again with us today. A geopolitical analyst for the gate stone Institute gate stone is where you can go to read his columns are. It's were talking about how the US failure in the departure from Afghanistan effects is going to affect the world order. Our hearing reports.

Soren in Afghanistan and we do we can't verify these at this point, there were hearing reports of lease of execution of Christians, even for those who have a Bible app on their phone. The Taliban comes up from the checks or phone for a Bible app there's an execution for them. We don't know what this is true or not, it's hard to get information out of the country. Now, now that it's is taken over by a terrorist organization.

What have you been hearing about what is taking place with Christians in Afghanistan at the moment. The information is coming out of Afghanistan is very difficult to verify what I do know is that there is between 10,000 and 15,000 Christians in Afghanistan as a country of 38 million. I guess I would suppose that most of those would be in Kabul or in the larger cities. I really don't know about persecution of Christians at the moment.

What I do know is that the Taliban have been going from house to house.

I'm searching through people's documents through searching through mobile telephones and looking for people who collaborated with United States and other Western countries, and I'm certain that you know they are Christian Afghans among those they will be found out and I'm sure that the Taliban will be ruthless against Christians and Jews are sternal Jews and in Afghanistan anymore. But on the icy retribution on the horizon. Well, this is something that we and our listeners need to be praying for for the Christians who are going to be under severe persecution. There in Afghanistan. We talked some about that. The change you talked earlier Soren about the change of the geopolitical power dynamic in the world.

Let's talk more about that now China is openly stating they want to be the world's superpower. They wanted displaced the United States. Of course we've given that to them by deciding many years ago they were going to offload our manufacturing production over to China tying us in with the communist Chinese. Just think about that for a second doing a partnership with the ruthless Communists in business how that's can work out the biblical principle of separation was completely that's a spiritual principle, but you could take it and other things as well.

Being partnering with a country like that they have intentions of moving on Taiwan, which the US as committed as you mentioned in treaty to protect this island off of China was been a great ally of ours for many many decades do you see that China is going to make a move on Taiwan and with the US even be able to do anything about it. Analysts are divided on the Taiwan issue right now some people say that China is looking for the perfect moment to try to invade Taiwan and this is the perfect moment where the United States and Europe is are in disarray. Some other analysts say that China still needs a couple of years to be able to pull that off. I think right now to say in a hypothetical case that China would invade Taiwan tomorrow.

I really doubt whether the United States would be able to do much about it. The problem is a United States is so divided the society itself is so divided on when George W. Bush decided to move into Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. There was almost overwhelming support among the American populace for military action in Afghanistan.

What you have now is a situation where the United States is the public is completely divided. I don't know how a president could even persuade a majority of the country to support something like coming to the defense of Taiwan and it will be bloodied United States. Yes, they lost a lot of troops in Afghanistan. But Afghanistan war will be child's play. Sorry to say I'm not denigrating what happened Afghanistan but compared to the full might of the Chinese military. You know I just don't see right now that the United States would be able to muster American leaders will be able to muster public support for that China must be factoring that into their calculations. The Christian worldview. David Wheaton returns in just a moment. David Wheaton here volunteer host of the Christian worldview radio program. Listeners are often surprised to learn that we as a ministry pay for air time on the radio station website or app on which you hear the program. The primary way this expense is recouped is through listeners like you donating to the ministry or becoming a monthly partner. Our aim is to have each broadcast outlet fully supported by the listeners to that outlet.

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It all pull out in the worst possible manner. What does this mean for Israel's security in the Middle East. Sure, that's a really good question. The Israelis must be also looking at what happened in Afghanistan with concern. You know that the Democratic Party in general has become very anti-Zionist anti-Israel. It's very hard to see you know if, for example, just say Iran or even Hezbollah were to try to attack Israel.

It's really hard to see how the United States will even be able to muster again. It's the same thing is with with Taiwan. Israel must be looking at what's going on in the United States with a lot of concern looking at this from prophetic perspective. Let's just get into that because whenever you're dealing with Israel you really dealing with a very unique country in human history. As I think basically what were seeing that the geopolitical reality in the world is in on the United States is not mentioned in Bible prophecy.

I think the United States is going down and Israel at some point is going to realize that it is no longer able to rely on the United States and at some point they're going to believe you know there to make a treaty with a false ally and it can end up in disaster.

Honestly, you know, we don't know where we are in God's prophetic timeline, but the fact that Israel is back in the land for 70 years is a real indicator that the Lord is moving in human affairs. It's not a coincidence that Israel is back in the land after 2000 years of being scattered and so you know we have to look at what's going on in global affairs through the prism of Scripture and of prophecy in my own view without setting dates are without speculating that were seeing right now is a total realignment of the world order and is going to basically take us into this next period of the tribulation.

It seems very clear to me, although I don't have any unique insights other than what Scripture tells us in and trying to sort of compare what's going on in global affairs with what Scripture says will happen.

It seems clear to me that we are in very unique territory were in a unique time. I couldn't agree more Soren turn our guest today on the Christian worldview radio program, a geopolitical analyst with the gate stone institutes can find a link to his Let's go back to something we earlier discussed just in light of what you said about end times prophetic biblical revelation type events. This realignment taking place to get to move toward the Zen time scenarios where there is a a global global leadership governance the and the rise of the Antichrist. Do you believe that the US has been.

It is in a state of judgment right now, by God, like it says in Romans chapter 1 and God gives them over and then they going to a descending spiral of further sin and is specifically a sexual it relays out in Romans one from heterosexual immorality to homosexual immorality to basically just all different kinds of sin. And there's there's no restraint. They just not willing to acknowledge God any longer.

Now many nations around the world.

America is not alone and that a rejection of God and his word, but I think the distinction is that America was given so much more. We we started out in and for many of our much of our history. There's been a strong biblical Christian influence in this country, to whom much is given, much will be required and so to me it seems that we are much more responsible as a country for where we have fallen because God gave us so much and so much truth to follow that's been rejected.

You believe are in Romans one situation in America, Soren, yes, unfortunately, I do like talking on personal capacity not a capacity with gate stone Institute, but my mind personally as a believer is that elections in November 2020 were a turning point because we really had a very clear choice between nationalism that Pres. Trump was trying to preserve and the globalism of you know, the Obama people and the Democrats and I think personally that this election was fraudulent. I think that apart from all of the stuff with the balance in all of the other activities going on the fact that all of these legislatures Democratic legislature or state legislatures were able to change election laws in an unconstitutional way in the Supreme Court decided not to hear that case, Texas Atty. Gen., all these things taken together, showing United States that is exceedingly corrupt at every level is whether to judiciary weather's legislature. Whether it's executive and I think basically there were millions of Christians praying that the Lord would preserve the United States give us a little bit more time and I think is very clear that the Lord decided to give the country over to evildoers and to wicked people. I was reading called by John Calvin the other day who said God gives a wicked nation. Wicked leaders and I really do believe with Pastor John MacArthur, and others who use that should the Romans.

One analogy that there comes a point where there is such so much sin that the Lord not only turns people over to depraved minds and all of this insanity with the young black lives matter and anti-thought and the racism all of this is really a sign of a society that is completely depraved and we have no situation where now the Lord is just completely abandoned nation, according to Romans one, so I think this basically is all part of God's plan is part of a judgment of the United States. I it's also part of the judgment of the world because as I said earlier, United States has provided a certain stability to global affairs it's allowed on unprecedented amount of prosperity and technological advances over the last 200 years, particularly since the end of the second world war and now this is all basically changing and will organize see is the rise of China, possibly Russia were deftly going to see the rise of Iran, Islam, all of these ideologies in these countries that are completely opposed to the liberties and freedoms of the United States cancel all of these other countries are totalitarian in nature. They want to control they want to take away personal liberties. They want to take away the ability to worship really and so were really from my mind. November 2020 elections was a clear clear turning point in American history and in world history, and from now on.

I do see that global configuration of power. The geopolitics is just all beginning to fall into place exactly like the Bible says it was his son says it will be in the future for the ultimate judgment you are, I believe. Again, I completely wholeheartedly agree with you. It's a depressing and discouraging thought for those of us who love this country and who appreciate the, the, the, the Christian founding and values at this country had for so long it's it's hard it's very sad to watch that think the question is what should Christians be doing now at this point in time.

A. If God can change his mind. He did with the people of Nineveh. Certainly we should be praying to God that he does that all according to his will.

This may be his will. The righteous believers are caught up many times in the judgment of God as it was in the nation of Israel and Daniel. Daniel and Shadrach me shack and Abednego were hauled off to Babylon and that's of God's judgment upon Israel at that time so we can expect believers to somehow be exempt.

Yes, we do believe the Bible teaches there is a rapture of the church coming and we won't have to go through this terrible time of tribulation, but there may be much tribulation like until we get there.

Can things turnarounds Soren, how would they turn around what should Christians be doing in the meantime, this doesn't mean we give up, this is a mean we stop voting.

This is a Mimi keep standing up and strengthening ourselves in the family and trying to strengthen the church. What you just said means we don't stop in any of those things, but what what what what should Christians be doing yeah well at this point, you know, I think that the rapture is closer than we really think it to be all the signs are there. I know the churches the Christians throughout the centuries and the millennia have always believed the rapture is in their generation, but were different because we have Israel in the land now for 70 years and it's a clear sign that the Lord is doing something and that the most important country in the most powerful country in the history of humanity is essentially imploding internally through decadence, through sin, through depravity, through greed and I think really the biggest problem in America is is the wealth you know the wealth creates the economic wealth creates decadence and creates a situation where people no longer want to fight or things that will cost them they would just want to preserve their own economic well-being.

So what you have is a lot of even Christians were silent who are afraid to say anything because they don't want to be accused of being homophobic or of being this being that I think right now basically for Christians is really is a focus toward holiness.

We have been very privileged to be Americans. It was a unique time in human history doesn't really occur very often throughout five or 6000 years of empires in human history. But basically the Bible says that you know we are not of this world and we had a good time in America always been able to have freedom of religion. I think all these things are coming to an end very quickly and it's possible that Christians are going to suffer but the Lord is a sovereign control. I think right now, the future really makes a for myself personally. I pray every day for the rapture. I pray that the Lord will bring this to an end.

We pray for Jesus that he can establish his kingdom in Israel after the end of the tribulation. And we can really be in a geopolitical situation the way Jesus intended it to be before he was rejected as the Messiah 2000 years ago. You know, as a Christian I think we need to do is think less about being American maxing out in a pejorative way, but more in terms of being a Christian that our national nationality that our national identity or personal identity is not really part of a nationstate, so to speak, but it's part of heaven all Christians in America and elsewhere really need to start going through a change of priorities. Maybe say a change of mindset of worldview that things in this world are very uncertain.

I'm sure unstable. We don't even know the next time working to be able to talk about my family returned to America. We don't know if there's gonna be this or that her we can even know what's going to be going on in the year from now and so this really is an opportunity I think for us to go back to the way things used to be.

In Christianity, with even with the Puritans where there was much more focused greater focus on holiness. On the personal relationship with the Lord and I think sometimes the materialism material wealth. The United States has allowed Christians to become distracted from those sorts of things can also that sort of my perspective right now I very little hope for the future of the United States or for Europe. I think dark days are coming, very dark days. I think Christians are going to be persecuted and we have to deal with that. Knowing that the Lord is in sovereign control, but I think is also good for us to pray for the rapture. Pray for the Lord to bring this to an end electives us some perspective about the big picture of what's going on here so I just want to say how thankful I am for you. Even with the message that isn't quote unquote hopeful or optimistic about the future of America or we can turn this around her.

This is just a down cycle there be an upside: this is America after all these baseless slogans that people have that you bring in the reality of Scripture to it and where God we know in Scripture where this world is going guy this world.

Contrary to what I think is post-millennial's believe that somehow this world can be Christianize an organ usher in the return of Christ.

Look at the situation in the world you really think this world if we just cannot work a little harder is going to somehow change the dynamic of what's going on in this very exceedingly sinful world. Now, this exceedingly sinful, corrupt. I never used to see your country is being exceedingly corrupt and now I do that it's it's it's it's compounded so much over the last 15 to 20 years.

This is been hard to watch but we appreciate your sober minded assessment biblically-based assessment of what's going on the world. Soren and we just so appreciate your coming on the Christian worldview today, my pleasure. Thank you for having the will.

I know it was a sobering message today, but I believe it's a truthful one and one we need to hear.

He referenced in his comments today. The obsession by the State Department in the military to promote homosexuality and transgender is him and II found the tweet that the US Embassy in Kabul Afghanistan put out at the beginning of June of this year and they said the month of June is recognized as LG BTI pride month.

The United States respects the dignity and equality of LG BTI people and celebrates their contributions to the society we remain committed to supporting civil rights of minorities including LG BTI persons hashtag pride, 20, 21 hashtag pride month and the rainbow flag flew over the US Embassy in Kabul Afghanistan for the month of June and just two months later the embassy was overrun and abandoned. Soren also mentioned this giving over judgment that we see in Romans chapter 1 in the first stage is where there is a strong affirmation in a nation of heterosexual immorality.

I think you can compare that to what was taking place around the time of the other ignominious withdrawal that the US had from Vietnam and Saigon that took place in than that was going on in our country than I not try to compare them like one causes the other, but it just shows that the descending depths of depravity. This this country has has gone through and where we are today will now we've gone from affirming heterosexual immorality to homosexual immorality and transgender is him and finally the final stage in Romans one is in starts in verse 28 where it says adjust as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper and it goes on to list all these things are filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, a just society just implodes and just falls apart and ends by saying although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

I think that is where we are today in America.

We've gone through the stages of being given over from Romans one and were in this final stage. Now, of course, that the timing is up to the Lord.

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