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Are Reparations for Slavery Consistent with Repentance and Restitution? Part 2

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January 25, 2019 7:00 pm

Are Reparations for Slavery Consistent with Repentance and Restitution? Part 2

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January 25, 2019 7:00 pm

Last week on the program, Darrell Harrison, former fellow of the Black Theology and Leadership Institute at Princeton Theological Seminary, joined us to discuss race (which he says is a misnomer for ethnicity), racism (or “ethnicism” as he calls it) within society and the church, the “white privilege” pejorative, and how Christians should view Martin Luther King Jr.

There was a lot to think about! And there’s much more to come this weekend with Darrell Harrison in Part 2 of the interview, as we discuss the controversial issue of slavery reparations (payment of money or granting of benefits to blacks today as restitution for wrongs committed against their ancestors)...

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Our preparation for labeling consistent with repentance and restitution part two of that topic.

We discussed the day here on the Christian Realty radio program were the mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christian and to share the good news that all people can be reconciled to God through faith in Jesus Christ. I'm David with the hosting our website is always is the thing will thank you for joining us today in the programs as we continue on this discussion of race and racism in today will get into the reparations aspect of it. The last week Darrell Harrison he's a former fellow of the black theology and leadership Institute at Princeton theological seminary joined us to discuss race which he says is a misnomer for a better term called ethnicity.

He talked about racism or quote athleticism as he calls it within society and the church. The white cortical white privilege pejorative that you so often today and how Christians should view Martin Luther King Jr. in light of the holiday that this country just celebrated remembering him there was a lot to think about in that program and there's much more to come today with Darrell Harrison in part two of the interview. As we discussed the very controversial issue of slavery reparations payment which is payment of money, or granting of benefits to Blacks today as restitution for wrongs committed against Blacks, generations ago, and whether that's consistent with biblical repentance and restitution. For example, Southern Baptist theological seminary recently issued a report on slavery and racism in the history of the Southern Baptist theological seminary, which was quite rife. If you read the report, reaffirming a apology they made in 1995 for the seminaries quote participation in individual and systemic racism in past eras, and as a result of that reports generated further calls for reparations will discuss that Apple also discussed how Christian should view the group black lives matter and also the social justice movement in the church.

Let's get the second part of the interview with Darrell Harrison. Let's get into this issue of reparations now for for slavery I mentioned at the in the intro to the program that the Southern Baptist theological seminary had issued a report on slavery and racism in the history of the Southern Baptist theological seminary. That was the title of the report and they were they reaffirmed a formal apology. They had made back in 19 1995 for the seminaries quote participation in individual and systemic racism" during past eras. You going back in the 1800s with the Southern Baptists seminary and you talk about some of these things, so there is white evangelicals who were just blatantly racist ethicist as you would like. The term is living as a long-term and so they they came out this reporter think it was in December and one aspect one segment of responses.

Okay we get it we see that we understand that so therefore the next step is not just to apologize but make payment, make restitution for the cortical injustices against our forebears and so when Wendell Griffin reiterated quote from him. He's a Baptist pastor in Arkansas judge you rewrote in the Baptist news global. He said this in response to this report, we should also not ignore or excuse the seminaries refusal to commit to engage in reparations and restitution for more than 150 years of systemic racial injustice practiced, preached and taught under the guise of preparing people for careers in pastoral ministry religious education missions and theological studies.

As followers of Jesus rather than command. Albert Mohler, the present seminary in the authors of the study. We should remind them what John the Baptist said about the need to quote bear fruits worthy of repentance" from Luke chapter 3, last paragraph, repentance of this issue of past injustices written in the slave era and the civil rights era will require the seminaries, leaders and other stakeholders to do much more than admit a history of racism, white supremacy and white religious nationalism, Southern Baptist theological seminary must, in obedience to what John the Baptist said, as well as the example of the tax collector from Jericho named Zacchaeus, who Jesus confronted, he must pledge to give up the ill-gotten wealth it gained and now enjoys, in part because of that wicked history. It is telling that Mohler hasn't shown any sign that he even consider doing that, let alone that he urged the seminaries trustees to do it.

That was Wendell Griffin, a Baptist pastor in Arkansas judge and just want to read a couple tweets from someone else, say, a female ministry graduate from the Westminster Philadelphia named Heep. Maybe even know this woman probably pronounce your name wrong here, but EK Meany who want and may order yet. Okay it was.

She said this in some tweets. She said what I call for reparations. Y'all hear a call for retribution. Instead of hearing and receiving what it is a gracious invitation to repair sinful acts from the past that impact the lives of black people in the present.

Ask yourselves why you're mad when people talk about reparations.

Grace is scandalous that you want to say in another tweet good first step in regard to the Southern Baptist theological seminary's report on racism in the past.

Good first step. Now reparations are due not only symbolically but financially this can take various forms, but nothing short of free tuition and student loan debt cancellation for black Americans who attended and will attend Southern Baptist. The logical seminary in the future.

Reparations must follow repentance that I was a lot. Sorry for the long set up there that this question reparations but just think we want to have some context to what the call is for the cases being made by some evangelicals for reparations onwards, payment of money or or the offering of benefits to Blacks due to past slavery and segregation those things that went on the past against the forebears that the past generations of Blacks is that idea of reparations is is that consistent with what the case being made here is of biblical repentance and restitution that David would be absolutely not a mean look to agree that the case being argued by many evangelical social decision is based in a desire that the evangelical church, particularly those for Dolly white churches that are have been in the past associated with the thought about the convention, the SBC desired that they make atonement for their role in facilitating the practice of institutional discrimination against Blacks who past slavery and other means.

The bigger problem, however, is what no one wants to talk about is that owning slaves was not exclusive to white people or white evangelical Christians, the fact is that thousands of free black men and women, all slaves in the 1850s and 1860s. That includes in the South. So if we are to be intellectually honest about slavery and who owes reparations to whom we did discuss slavery, holy weekly, not collectively that said to hold any person to hold any person responsible for another person for what I call sin by proxy to hold any person responsible for another person.

Sin is wholly inconsistent with the teachings of Scripture we consider what Scripture says in Ezekiel chapter 18 verse 20 quote the person who says will guide the sun will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment of the fund's iniquity, the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. Now let me call there. Save this.

I appreciate what Dr. Albert Mohler is so does seminary have attempted to do a release the this statement or races. Slavery also will Risa go. However, the 1st ms that I became aware that that statement have been released and was one day I was on Twitter and I saw that that statement had been released under Dr. Bo's signature. The first thing I said to myself was awful. Coaches because I really don't think that Dr. Mohler north of the seminary were prepared for the blowback that they have received subsequent to the release of that statement. You see the problem with statements like that is that your best intentions are never enough you can never satisfy the social evangelical movement.

They will never be satisfied because regardless of what you intend to do is order bridging that gap of rent reconciliation.

It will never be enough. They always move the ball and scripturally speaking what many evangelical social dispositions have attempted to do and they can be a biblical apologetic for reparations, especially monitor reparations.

If you notice all their demands for reparations are always monetary in one form or another is always monetary but what many of of of them are doing now within the evangelical social justice movement is ill-equipped to appropriate the account is IKEA's in Luke chapter 19 verse eight is apologetic for reparations, but that would be a misinterpretation of that text because this is the text where that he is responses as well. I have my belongings, I give to the poor and if I've defrauded anyone I will repay them all. Restore to them four times as much.

But here's the thing. First of all that he is his offer was volitional. It was not course. Second is old-school Zacchaeus would have defrauded would have still been alive so that he could carry out the promise restitution third. It was that key is to determine the value of the restitution in the amount with that was appropriate in light of his affairs so know them by proxy, as I call it the holding accountable of a current generation of people for sins that may or may not of been committed three or four, five generations ago is not consistent with the biblical principle of repentance and restitution course repentance is not repentance that acquiesced. I can give into your demands and I can pay you directly deal reparations that reparations that you're demanding, but that doesn't mean there's been a change of heart within me.

I can still think of you in the same sinful terms.

As I've always thought about you so for anyone to think that rep monitor reparations either cash payout student debt forgiveness free tuition. If anyone is nave as to think that any of that will result in heart change there nave because of the heart that is the root and grow of that divide. In the first place, and how money is supposed to solve that. I don't know Harrison with us today in the Christian world view.

He blogs at just former fellow of the black theology leadership Institute at Princeton theological seminary. One quick follow-up question is you talked about reparations and slavery. Darrell is in Jesus lived during a time of prevalent slavery throughout the Roman world.

What did Jesus say or what did he do about that. The slavery of his age.

How did how did he view it okay Darrell Harris and our guest today on the Christian review radio program will answer that question after this first break of the day in the program without a given very compelling and insightful answer to the issue of reparations, one that were bound to hear more about going forward. And so if you missed any of that. Be sure to go back and hear the podcast of the program. We also have much more coming up today with regard to black lives matter and other issues of race and racism that takes place in our society really what the church how the church and individual Christians should respond to it. Say too much more coming up in the Christian review and David Wheaton. There is an abundance of resources available in Christian bookstores and online sad reality is that many of them even some of the most popular do not lead to a sound and strong faith. The aim of the Christian world is to identify and offer resources that are biblically faithful and deep in your walk with God in our online store. We have a wide range of resources for all ages, adult and children's books and DVDs, Bibles and devotionals, unique gifts and more so browse our and find enriching resources for yourself, family, friends, small group church. You can also order by calling our office told me that one 888 646-2233. That's one AAA 646-2233 or visit the Christian world.more leisure to take advantage of two free resources that will keep you informed and sharpen your world. The first is the Christian world weekly email which comes to your inbox each Friday. It contains the upcoming radio program along with need to read articles, teacher resources, special events, and audio of the previous program.

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What did Jesus say or what did he do about that. The slavery of his age.

How did how did he view it in question because you look at what Jesus did with regard to slavery and other institutional practices that were sinful that were going on in his day during his ministry on the earth. He did nothing. He did nothing to change that Jesus preached the gospel he preached the gospel of changed heart. She did not preach the gospel of politics of achieving improvement in society through legislation through replacing leadership through electing different people to office. One of my favorite text of Scripture as relates to what Jesus did and didn't do to address the social ills of his time is his response to John the Baptist while John the Baptist was imprisoned. John while he was imprisoned, waiting to be beheaded for two of his followers to Jesus to ask, are you the one who was promised or should we wait for someone else and in Jesus's response to John the Baptist. Note, Jesus did not have John the Baptist release from prison. He did not have a will work to have his death sentence commute Jesus did none of that. But in his response to John the Baptist.

One of the things that Jesus pointed out, in addition to reminding John reflect back on what you have seen and heard the blind now see that death here. The hungrier fit and you know what he saved for last dimension that the poor had the gospel preached to them. Jesus didn't say that the poor were given jobs that the poor were given homes that the poor were given new clothes. No, he put out the John the Baptist in saving the best for last quarter phrase know that the poor at the gospel preached to them now. If there was any time. In Jesus ministry that he was going to exert his authority in his power it would've been in that instance where John the Baptist was on the precipice of literally losing his head. But Jesus did nothing. He emphasized that the poor had the gospel preached and what Jesus understood that many social justice evangelicals don't is that above all else above having our physical material and other needs met. What each of us needs about anything else is the gospel is far more important. It's nice to have closer ties to have food is great to have money is great to have shelter in a home and all that you can have all those things. But if you did, you haven't entered into a right relationship with God through Christ, then you have nothing real even though you think you have something in this world Darrell Harrison with us today on the Christian really just a couple more questions for you Darrell. I want to read.

Just another couple paragraphs from a column you wrote on your website. Just you tell that the minds of black folk you say why is that so many black people continue to propagate the notion that merely because they are black, they are somehow obligated to support only political candidates who are either black and/or Democrat. It is this kind of F no tribalist mindset that serves to perpetuate the stereotypical narrative that Blacks are politically monolithic that their votes are cast primarily in terms of what is best for their quote race as a collective group as opposed to what is in their best interest. As individuals, while at the same time decrying anyone who would dare accuse them of being so politically tunnel vision and they find out do you say through historical exit polling data proves that this is exactly the case, how Blacks vote last paragraph speaking only for myself, I never have never understood why Blacks like Williams and grams. I think you have referred them early in the article, with all due respect, see it as virtuous that black voters devote themselves so unquestioningly to one political party to advocate for such blind loyalty is to suggest black Americans set aside their responsibility as individuals to be ideologically discerning about how their votes are cast and instead support candidates solely on the basis of socio-cultural tradition, black voters are the only people politically speaking, who apply this kind of ideological collectivism to themselves and who openly castigate each other for refusing to embrace it and that was your recent column. The minds of black folk on your website. It just now is not just black people who are sorta being pushed or have been pushed into voting for the Democrat party and Democrats but is now you see it as millennial evangelicals are being not so subtly told to do the same thing move the Democratic Party because there are other issues that are just as important as abortion like issues of race as we been discussing today issues of justice and immigration poverty.

These are equally important as abortion and so therefore you don't need to be locked in the Republican are voting on the conservative side because there is just as many relevant and important issues on the Democrat side. What are your thoughts on why Blacks are so uniformly voting Democrat in the plush to make millennial evangelicals, typically white, probably to do the same thing you know it is right to black voters. I think it goes back to the 1960s and was so bright and early at the passing of the civil rights act and the voting rights act and it just so happened that in God's providence. There was a you as a followed up on the assassination of Pres. John F. Kennedy, then VP Lyndon Johnson took over as president for Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. He was a segregationist but being a Democrat and being president by virtue of the death of John F. Kennedy Inc. is happened to be quite another phrase at the right place at the right time. Jocelyn was in the White House. He was in the Oval Office. When those two pieces of legislation were Pat so by virtue of that the Democratic Party got the credit for coming to the rescue of black Americans.

When the truth is. Prior to that, prior to Lyndon Johnson of taking his seat in the White House Democrat wanted nothing to do with blank having the right to vote with black having civil rights such as being free to eat in the restaurant or food establishment of their choice, being free to attend the school of their choice, being free to purchase a home in the ZIP Code of their choice.

Democrats wanted nothing at all to do with that.

But since the Democrat president signed his name to the Civil Rights Act and the voting rights act for what almost 60 years now of black voters have felt in the leeches to the Democratic Party because for some reason or another they feel obligated to be loyal to the Democratic Party.

Even though the Democratic Party's liberal policies have done more to destroy absolutely decimate black families and communities based on the empty promises that they continue to propagate an offer and profit of black voters that the government is here to save you time and time and time again if you look at data prior to the 1960s prior to the mid-1960s divorce rate within black families were single digits while out of wedlock birth were single digit while graduation rates were significantly lower than they were after the passage of all this welfare state legislation, but there's a sense in which black voters just continue to absorb the narrative that is being pushed at them through the media that Republicans are racist that there are evil that they couldn't care less about black people even go the policies of that are more conservative benefit black Americans better than the liberal punitive policies of liberalism and this is a battle that I like conservative continue to fight every single year. If black people can just get past like bones can just get past the noise is being pushed at them by the liberal media and understand that it's better for you that your taxes are lower is better for you that you have the right to select what school your children go to is better for you could not have the government dictate for you and apply your like all the various restrictions and limits on how you can live your life that's better for you in the in, but for some reason 50 years of history is hard to let go. Okay, this is an interview with Darrell Harrison today, a former fellow of the black theology leadership Institute at Princeton theological seminary. I just started working now as the Dean of social media and grace to you.

Very compelling comments on all these different hot button issues of race and racism and reparations have time to take phone calls in the next couple segments.

We have a few minutes left with Darrell to stay tuned.

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You can even order really appreciate all those monthly partners to this ministry and on a regular basis that Howard of the air. This program every single week. We thank you so much that we talked about a lot of issues this week and last week in this two-part series, we titled the program are reparations for slavery consistent with repentance and restitution that will serve the core topic we've been talking about regroup more broadly. It's really been about race and racism as society defines those terms and reparations. Of course, but also about Martin Luther King last week and wants the church to do deals and talk a black lives matter coming up in this kind of final half segment with him, but I want to open the phone lines now to ask listeners what has struck you the most. What if you learn the most, perhaps about this conversation on race and racism reparations all these different issues you been talking about the last two weeks just one caveat. You just tuned in, you just or three minutes of the last answer something it be better if you didn't call.

Just because you want people to have who have heard that the context for where Darrell is coming from.

So if you heard most of last week and most of this week and you have some thoughts we would love to hear those I was struck you the most about this conversation not just a fetus or mentor to the program today and just have a point to make about race. I also second part of the question could be maybe one answer the question, was the better way was the way forward to better unity between ethnic groups in the church. Darrell really got into that deeply last week on the program and of course you can hear the programs online. If you missed one at her website the Christian rule. If for toll-free number if you like to be a part of the conversation. Today is 1-877-655-6755, 1-877-655-6755 we have about five or six minutes left with Darrell and then during that time you can call in and Bob you will get you up on the other call screening board will start taking some phone calls for the end of this segment and into the last segment of the days. What struck you what you learned about this conversation on race, racism, reparations, all the other things we've been discussing last two weeks and what is the way forward to better unity within the church.

Okay, let's get to the last part of the interview with Darrell Harrison final question for you. I was at a local evangelical college here in the Twin Cities recently and I remember it struck me as I drove out that in one of the dorm rooms or apartments just just off campus. I think it was clearly a students dorm room or maybe was a professor not sure who who lived there, but there is a big placard of black lives matter on this evangelical campus and there even has been supportive black lives matter by those who are well-known pastors or musicians and so forth. What is black lives matter stand for the in is there there worldview something that Christian should support part of the same know a lot about it one more time, black lives matter. According to her own website. If you want a black lives you will see on their own website that is an organization that is founded on 13 what they refer to as guiding principles 13 guiding principles on which black lives matter as organization finds its purpose as an organization black lives matter in his own words is quote unapologetically black and that is the position that is inherently biblical as an advocate for partiality based on ethnicity now when viewed through the objective lens of Scripture as we should view everything.

What Scripture teaches black lives matter and its worldview, which is spelled out again with guiding principles tools which are called "transgender affirming"" queer affirming behaviors which God's word clearly deems as sinful as something I will argue Christian should not support for answer your question, no, based on black lives matters. All 13 guiding principles. No it is not an organization that Christians should support black lives matter seeks to create a world apart from genuine heart change is a barrage in the world, which they believe can be achieved through protests and demonstrations and antagonizing people by inconveniencing them by infringing on the right to privacy.

I think we've all seen on various news outlets where black lives matters.

Members will just barge into a restaurant and make all kind of noise and just interrupt Colton's trying to have dinner. They think they crowd the freeways and the interspace blocking traffic so people can't get home from work. This is not the way to bring about the kind of change that they are seeking. But having said that, the kind of change that they are seeking is not the kind of change that Scripture teaches is not the kind of change that Christians are commanded to pursue and that is the change that begins a from within in our heart and that's exactly the kind of gospel that Jesus himself taught which is why Jesus never wasted time trying to change governments trying to change the political system.

He spit zero time trying to change that. He preached the gospel of repentance and forgiveness of sin.

He preached the gospel of the new birth in the heart, which results in works in keeping with repentance. Only believers repent unbelievers don't and that's what people who advocate such things as black lives. Matters need to remind himself. Thank you for that reminder about what Jesus and his apostles were about not trying to change culture change politics thinking that's going to change people's hearts, but focusing on the only thing that changes people's hearts, and where they're going to spend eternity that's coming to repentance of sin and in putting faith in Christ as Savior and following him as Lord statement dear, we just so appreciate your coming on the Christian will view these last two weeks.

It is been very helpful. You have a God-given important voice and I we just wish all of God's best in Grace to you and your family as you continue to serve Christ and write about him and speak about a biblical worldview and how it applies to so many issues every day. Thank you again all right as an interview with Darrell Harrison. I hope you really gained and benefit. It is certainly thought-provoking to hear from him on the program.

The last two weeks, and again, as always, if you missed an interview to Scott or a website. The Christian rule begins click and play it. You can download it you get the free podcasting get the short takes it's all there for you for free at our website were going to take some phone calls during the end of this segment into the next segment was some concluding thoughts and so forth. If you want to have a to be part of the conversation of what struck you about this conversation on race, racism, reparations Martin Luther King, the church black lives matter lots of different topics we discussed. The last two weeks. Our studio number is 1-877-655-6755 that's 1-877-655-6755 let's go first down to Texas and David, welcome to the Christian review. What struck you about the conversation with Darrell Harrison. Thank you, David. This was a very good interview over the past two weeks and the Darrell was an excellent spokesman and appreciate your interview thank you struck me as he said that nowhere in the New Testament did the church emphasize diversity among congregations and new thing that strikes me, David, is that evangelicals and millennial's are being shamed into taking liberal positions that are nonbiblical and I think that the church needs to be aware voices like yours and Darrell that there is no shame involved, and we don't need to react to the liberal mindset by moving toward them except to speak the truth in love, so I appreciate your interview David, thank you, David. Thank you so much for your encouragement and call today, yes, I just thought Darrell did a fantastic job addressing all of these various topics not just purely from a conservative political standpoint, although he said he is conservative politically but more importantly from a really strongly biblical standpoint.

So while we did very much appreciate him love to get him back on the program sometime to talk more about these issues and also social justice is a very good handle on these things and remember he has that he blogs at just I read several of his columns over the last known year or so and I have always benefited by reading him. Okay, let's go next to Mississippi and Grady.

Welcome to the Christian, really, what is your takeaways from this conversation with Darrell Harrison of the last two weeks of very appreciative of opinion about my thing about the reparations is not to chart is not an attempt to change someone's heart but it just showing that making an effort to show that you know we were apologetic for what it happened just like a murderer when they go to court and in their convicted doesn't change the fact that that person bring that person back but there is some type of closure so that nothing wrong with with the reparations good will it change you know, but it is showing that your you know you apologetic what it happened. Okay Grady, I appreciate your call can guess a break here. I think the only difficult part about that is that your you're asking those in the in the present who didn't commit a crime or doing human injustice to pay for or do something for those generations ago that earning a life. Still, you and your paying somebody to people who are currently living who were defendant.

I think that's where the rub comes in the think if it happened in the same generation as if it was Zacchaeus that would definitely be a case.

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I will give to the poor and if I have defrauded anyone of anything. I will give back four times as much and Jesus said to him today salvation has come to this house because he to Zacchaeus is a son of Abraham. For the Son of Man is come to seek and to save that which was lost as a very interesting passage that the works of restitution is, isn't what saved Zacchaeus that wasn't he wasn't saved by performing rusted restitution.

Jesus says salvation has come to this house is he too is a son of Abraham was the father of faith Abraham.

Abraham believed God, and was credited to him as righteousness. So that there the act, the work of restitution was a fruit of his salvation, and it was directed toward those he he directly had defrauded and that was absolutely reparations for what he had done rapidly. Call for but again it wasn't coerced. It wasn't even forced by Jesus. It was voluntary by Zacchaeus. He had a heart change in a millionaire heart change took place. He realized he had sinned and he wanted to make it right with those he had defrauded in the past.

Now compare that to the call for slavery represent reparations things that happened literally well over 100 years ago to generations that are long gone.

Your you're asking your forcing those compelling those who didn't commit a crime and how you can identify those to pay those who weren't offended or harmed seat. That's not grace. Grace is unmerited favor. I was reading that tweet by that it can mean you want again. She talked about the Southern Baptist theological seminary partner racism and she says my call for reparations.

You'll hear retribution and she says the last thing is that we should ask yourself why you're mad. Grace is scandalous} to scandalous next tweet is good first step. Now repentance are due and she goes on to say, repent reparations must follow repentance. Grace is scandalous.

Grace has nothing to do with what is due has nothing to do with what is must. Grace is always unmerited favor from, say, God, not giving us what we do not must doing it. He does it because he loves us and wants to do it and so it just is contradictory to even say all gray, scandalous, and then say are doing this is what you must do so.

It's not reparations forcing those who didn't commit a crime to pay those who weren't offended or harmed is certainly not grace and it's not justice because how we can approve who is at fault and how much past harm impacted some present person who wasn't even offended. What that does is it actually fosters more of an entitlement and of attitude. I deserve this says that tweet looks like that's as it implies I deserve this. It fosters bitterness, lack of unforgiveness.

If I don't get it and really a fosters a greater division and so that's why think reparations and thus someone's directly offended and that's provable and quantifiable. Even Liza was with Zacchaeus, I think it's an ill-advised plan that actually leads to more division. Let's get back to the phone lines Walter in Oklahoma. Thank you for calling the Christian review. What are your thoughts are with your big take away what you're struck by the conversations last two weeks of value you would be the son of God, and he eats. That didn't even say much about the good life beginning at an object and I was waiting for him to say, but despite that, and what we talk about founding fathers having slaves, and that we have delivered that the good that they didn't for preparation Democrat being have created the favorable of the right people. I remember doing the cats went down to Ms. exhibit during the voting) outside of the lower leg and one tablet that he say that I didn't know that they look at ways problem and in rapid rage around the Greenwood and pump the HomeAway would bomb millionaire like. That totally bomb the consul wanted to say that someone had cut white woman in the elevator. Now the people, but is that dying out now. They say that they couldn't stay long without them for like running in reality, Americans need to just just in the interest of time, was to let you go but I think you make you make a good point. I just first about Martin Luther King. I think Darrell did mentions that the positive impact he did actually have in the civil rights movement in this country think there's no question about that that his his efforts led to change necessary change in this country where Blacks weren't seen as equal in their segregated and so forth. There's no question about that you proceed to comment on the theology of Martin Luther King that he was. It was here he was a liberal theologian, I haven't studied him but you're not believing in the divinity of Christ from his writings that on the quote right in front of me can go in here from last week in the program.

For those of you who didn't hear that but he definitely had more liberal theological stances as regard to the reparations issue you just talked about.

Certainly, again, if there is direct in recent offense crimes injustices against someone who can be seen this person did that to that person. They're both living and is directly attributable and quantifiable. Yeah, I'm right. Reparations is is is call for that. That really is another word for restitution for a crime so anyway we only about a minute left today in the program. I think for all the callers very good. Very insightful ratio taking part in the program today just in summary, I think we need to with these issues of race, and right, racism is not let those with a nonbiblical worldview redefine the way we speak about these things.

So when it comes to race, yet we can talk about race to realize is only one race, the human race. We are all image bearers and equally valuable in God's eyes, and in member believers, we have a complete unity in Christ for all backgrounds read Galatians 327. We are all one in Christ Jesus, we do have different ethnicities for sure there's various ethnicities with some changeable and some non-changeable traits and so as we see each other as image bearers. We start to treat people the way God treats all of this desiring us to be Satan loving us and desiring us to be in right relationship with him. We appreciate your joining us. These last two weeks on the Christian review. We have more topics coming up.

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