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American Gospel - "Progressive" Christianity (Part 3 of 3)

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February 23, 2020 7:00 pm

American Gospel - "Progressive" Christianity (Part 3 of 3)

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February 23, 2020 7:00 pm

We have reached the final weekend of our three-part series on the America Gospel films, which expose the false teachings and teachers that corrupt the biblical gospel and sound doctrine.

In part 1 we examined film 1 on errant teachings such as moralistic preaching, the works gospel, the attractional church, and the health, wealth, and prosperity gospel that afflict so many churches.

And then last week in part 2, we began discussing film 2 on progressive Christianity, which is found in mainline Protestant denominations and the Emerging Church movement, where foundational doctrines like the atoning death of Christ are rejected as “cosmic child abuse” and reimagined into universal salvation with no final judgment.

This weekend in the final part of our series, Brandon Kimber, creator of the American Gospel films, will again join us to discuss more about progressive Christianity and its redefining of God and His Word.

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The American gospel, progressive Christianity. This part three of our series right here in the Christian worldview radio program for the mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and to share the good news that all people can be reconciled to God. Faith in Jesus Christ and David week, the host and her website is the Christian thanks for joining us today on the Christian worldview. We have recently final weekend of our report series on the American gospel films are two of them which expose the false teaching and the teachers that corrupt the biblical gospel in sound doctrine. Now, in part one we examine film one on the errant teaching such as moralistic preaching just be better in the works gospel that faith plus your works earn you favor with God and the attraction of the church of the seeker sensitive church geared toward church, toward the nonbeliever and the health, wealth and prosperity gospel which says that when you become a Christian, God wants you always healthy, wealthy and prosperous.

These four false teachings afflict so many churches and then last week in part two of our series will begin discussing film to which is on progressive Christianity. This is found in mainline Protestant denominations in the emerging church movement and elsewhere where foundational doctrines of the faith like the atoning death of Christ. Nothing more core than that are rejected as quote cosmic child abuse.

How could God kill his own son in the reimagined into a kind of universal salvation.

And there's no final judgment for those who reject Christ. So this weekend is the final part of our three-part series and Brandon Kimber, the creator of the American gospel films joins us again to do it today to discuss more about progressive Christianity and its redefining of God in his word was get to the first segment of that interview Brandon Kimber with us today here on the Christian worldview. One of the things you mentioned earlier that is a point of real contention with progressive Christians is the idea of penal substitutionary atonement is a doctrinal phrase, but it's the core of the gospel. The penal penalty substitution. Christ was our substitute in our place, atonement, his substitutionary death satisfy God's wrath. That is the most important concept to understand about the gospel I want to play a soundbites from the film showing the pushback from the folks in the progressive Christian movement. People like Tony Jones is from this speaks in this film about to God kill Jesus and me not to. Seems like cosmic child abuse. They reject that the sum but also has more Phil Johnson Alisa Childers and then it gets into how the shack the book and then the movie was a subversive attack on penal substitutionary atonement hears from American gospel.

The second film, the title of my most recent book is did God kill Jesus which I use because it was a quandary. I have myself and it was something that I had heard from a lot of people. And that is struggling with the understandings of the cross. In Jesus death on the cross in which it seemed like God had to exact some kind of revenge or payment from Jesus. Someone paying the price for assaying the question is does he really think anyone saw how many knew that how can you forgive sins. Does he just overlook them in the biblical answer is no, that's what the death of Christ is all about. Paid the price of other people sins attacks on penal substitution have been around for a long time that I think they made their way into the larger evangelical culture.

Think about shack. Okay Brandon why is the issue of penal substitution. Why is that so anathema with progressive Christians.

They call cosmic child abuse did God kill Jesus. And this is something that's highly reject. I think we know why because they reject the gospel. They reject the faith. This is the core of the faith, but talk about that, and held that the shack that very very popular book that many, many Christians read made into a very popular movie how that was a subversive element on this issue. People somehow think that the love of God and the justice or wrath of God are somehow opposites when really there completely links and compatible. If you are unjust. If you think that you know God can be loving instead of just then you're saying that God was unjust in order to be loving. Well, if you are unjust and unloving thing.

Injustice is not loving a judge who allows evil to go unpunished is an evil and unloving judge so you can't separate those attributes and that's really throughout the film, Tony Jones will refuse to acknowledge that God has to be both just and loving and you'll see him go to the point of saying God doesn't need to be beholden to any attributes at all. You can just basically do whatever he wants, which is crazy at the core, really.

People just hate the idea of a just God who punishes sin.

Progressive Christians, particularly may want justice in this world they talk a lot about social justice. But when God's version of justice is aimed toward them or us. It becomes a completely different story.

Nobody likes that we don't like the idea of hell or the wrath of God and and that's what you see in the book and movie the shack the author William Paul Young denies the wrath of God and kind of presents the idea that Jesus's death accomplished the reconciliation for all sinners and we really see his views more clearly in a book that came out later called lies we believe about God and that he expresses his view that the idea that it was God's idea for Jesus to die on the cross that that is us worshiping a cosmic abuser.

So he's agreeing with this cosmic child abuse claimed that this was actually first brought up in a book by Steve chalk think it's called the loss message of Jesus and it's really a strawman version of the doctrine of penal substitutionary atonement. I think people are rejecting the strawmen versions instead of the actual real thing. I think there's about maybe three different misunderstandings of this doctrine they portray it as Jesus was. This unwilling victim that was abused by his father and Scripture is very clear that Jesus wasn't an unwilling victim of the cross. He willingly lay down his life. According to the father's will. This is a part of God's plan and the second thing I would say is we need to remember that Jesus is God the son, a member of the Trinity, so this is actually God in the person of the son taking on his own righteous requirements, is absorbing his own wrath against sin is not making someone else take the wrath. This is God himself doing it for us. And so what you'll hear a lot is people will say what when humans forgive, they don't lash out in their wrath. Her anger and kill a baby or punch a dog before they can forgive they just forgive and so that's really misrepresenting everything in true forgiveness.

The person who forgives turns the other cheek and instead of making the person who offended them pay the debt if I'm forgiving I'm absorbing the debt or the justice that's owed to another into myself so this is exactly what happens in the gospel. We have God turning the other cheek.

Instead of giving us the justice which is our best both physical death and spiritual death and hell he is absorbing that justice into himself instead of making someone else pay for it so that's that's what forgiveness is, even in human relationships. The final part, I would say that people distort is we have to remember that the motivations of each member of the Trinity are the same so the strawman version of this would be that the father sent the son so that you could love us. He couldn't love us until he had the sacrifice and the son's blood in the most famous Bible verse John 316 we see that it was the father who sent his son because he loved us.

He loved us while we were his enemies and even under his holy hatred. He expressed his love for us by sending his son so all the members of the Trinity share the same motivation. It's primarily for the glory of God and the love of people there. There is no conflict between their motivations. Brandon Kimber with us today in the Christian worldview talking about the second film in his series. The title of the film is American gospel were talking about.

Part two today.

Progressive Christianity, we have both films available on DVD here at the Christian review.

Just go to our website the Christian and will tell you how you can get them coming up on the program today, a man that is brought out as being a influential person to progressive Christians is that person name Richard Rohr and play a soundbite from the film about him. He's actually quoted in this soundbite you have some a clip of him talking about his redefinition of Christ. He makes a distinction between Jesus and actually Christ it's interesting error to listen to and how he portrays a type of universalism cures from American gospel's influence is just profound. Recently Jan hat maker had Richard Rohr on her podcast and she referred to him as a spiritual father.

I along with just thousands and thousands of my listeners and have learned from you for so many years. We consider you spiritual father is also influenced by now Brian McLaren that Jesus said to him, I am the way the truth and the life. No one father but through me.

Now this would be problematic for Richard Rohr normally accept cash that Jesus is talking as the universal Christ. Here, the reason we have so misused or misinterpreted.

John's Gospel is. This is the eternal archetypal Christ talking he can say I am the way the truth and the life.

This is Richard Rohr is Jesus's tomb of this ministry. This amalgam of matter and spirit, which is the way for everybody here is not Jesus is not a savior. We don't need salvation. We do not need to be reconciled. Talk about Brandon who Jan hat maker is an especially Richard Rohr and why he's been such a influential person amongst progressive Christians. Okay, I guess. Today Brandon Kimber will answer that question after this first break of the day here on the Christian worldview radio program if you just join us were talking about the second of the American gospel films in this third part of our series not confused effort to films in three parts on the show I understand but anyway, we are offering this film. By the way I both films for a donation of $30 or more to the Christian worldview speaking to skin contact with us.

The usual ways of the website the Christian or you can just purchase one film of the other. Each film retails for 1799.

If you arty have one just want to get the other one, 1799. You can also rent the film online. Think you can watch it for 48 hours or something like that to Bethel really highly recommend that these films are substantive.

I think the first ones to our second wants three hours a lot of content in here to watch with your family, your church group your Bible study group so stating we have much more coming up today in the Christian worldview. I'm David Wheaton is a pain to know that there are people who do not know Jesus is a greater pain to know that oftentimes Jesus and Christianity is being distorted is called Congress thought.

I don't think God said, sin story.Christianity separates Christianity from other religions in the world. The American gospel films. Contrast the false teaching so prevalent today to true biblical Christianity for a limited time we are offering both films for donation of $30 or more to the Christian worldview regular retailer 1799 each to order go to the Christian or call 1888 646-2233 right to Box 401 Excelsior, MN 55331. Be sure to take advantage of two free resources that will keep you informed and sharpen your worldview. The first is the Christian worldview, weekly email which comes to your inbox each Friday. It contains the upcoming radio program along with need to read articles feature resources, special events, and audio of the previous program. The second is the Christian worldview, annual letter, which is delivered to your mailbox. In November it contains a year-end letter from host, David. We had a listing of our store, including DVDs, books, children's materials and you can sign up for the weekly email an annual print by visiting the Christian worldview.calling one AAA 646-2233. Your email and mailing address will never be shared and you can unsubscribe at any time, called one AAA 646-2233 or visit the Christian world.thanks for joining us today on the Christian worldview radio program David Wheaton host our topic today is the third partner series final part on the American gospel films are two of them in the second film that were discussing today is nonprogressive, Christianity, progressive Christianity is basically I get that defined it as religious humanism guy so just a a man based religious sounding religion that merges or aligns with political leftism and interestingly enough in the prep in the lead up to this program this week perfectly timed article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune titled state-by-state anti-trump evangelicals spread their message. Many get into that. How not evangelicals there progressive Christians trying to convince evangelicals to vote for a Democrat this time around, not for Donald Trump get that later today in the program and so before the break, Brandon Kimber, who is the creator of both of these films was asked about Richard Rohr, a very influential person in the progressive movement let's get back to the interview with Brandon Kimber and the reason we have so misused or misinterpreted. John's Gospel is.

This is the eternal archetypal Christ talking he can say I am the way the truth and life but is not Jesus's tomb of this ministry.

This amalgam of matter and spirit, which is the way for everybody. Talk about Brandon who Jan hat maker is an especially Richard Rohr and why he's been such a influential person amongst progressive Christians. So Jan hat maker is a popular progressive author, blogger, she's got a podcast called for the love I think she was also on HDTV a few times in 2016 there is a new story about how she basically said homosexuality wasn't a sin and that we should include LGBT into Christianity and in response to that life way DSP sees Christian bookstore removed her books in that clip she calls Richard Rohr her spiritual father Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar he's a Catholic. They call him one of the most popular spiritual authors and speakers in the world. He's been on Oprah a few times and a lot of people in the progressive movement consider him their spiritual father.

They been influenced by him. Rob Bell's a big name he teaches, as you mentioned universalism that everyone will be saved.

He denies the existence of hell, he's perennial list, which means that all religions even though they outwardly looked different, they all share a single core divine truth.

That's the same across all religions. He denies Original Sin and as you brought up his main and I would say most serious error is his understanding of Jesus Christ. He separates Christ from Jesus so the historical Jesus is different from what he would call the cosmic or universal Christ. He believes that at the Big Bang that that was the birth of the Christ that Christ is actually another name for everything. Everything in the universe. Anything that's physical that we can see can be called Christ this cosmic Christ is bigger than Jesus. I just want to read this quote from his website where he describes Christ as a kite and I think this kind of helps you understand what he's trying to do. He says if Christ is the kite Jesus is the person flying the kite and keeping it from escaping away into invisibility, if Jesus is the person holding the string.

Christ is the great banner in the sky, from whom all can draw life even if they do not recognize the one flying the kite so essentially he's saying that you can recognize Christ without acknowledging or even knowing who Jesus is. He believes there is really no atonement necessary that everyone is already in Christ. So we don't need to be reconciled to God. In that sense that's kind of his logic and where his universalism comes from Brandon Kimber with us today in the Christian worldview, the creator of the American gospel films.

Brandon monthly just one final soundbite from the film having to do with the progressive Christian's rejection of the wrath of God. The atonement they redefine that term everything even talk about that as a redefinition of orthodox biblical Christianity is a battle for terms of what they mean. But here's audio talking about God's wrath and justice. This, as John MacArthur and it again. Bart Campolo, who is now become a secular humanist and Paul washer. The biblical Christian as well.

Every sin ever committed by every person who was ever live will be punished. That is required by divine holiness and divine righteousness and divine just the idea of justice, like punished the weekend to redeem. It will either be punished everlastingly in the life center impenitent unbelieving center or that punishment will be borne by Christ. John MacArthur might be right about that's not a God worthy of my worship is not interested, the first of all you need to understand something God's wrath is not like ours. Our wrath is primarily self-centered it's it's coercive it's unrighteous God's wrath is pure and it is the result of his love that which is right. If you love that which is right you will hate if you love life, you will hate death, if you love African-Americans you will hate slavery. If you love children you will hate abortion. If you love Jews you will hate the Holocaust. Why is it that we reserve the right is fallible human beings to burn with indignation when we see an injustice.

And yet we say. If God does the same thing that somehow morally beneath him. His love is fierce, and in the same is wrath his fingers against Casserly powerful comment thereby Paul washer Brandon explain how this issue of God's love and wrath are still commonly misunderstood, and also by taking it a step further by their progressive court." Christians, how they rejected God who is full of wrath. He will punish every sin and who will sentence people to hell for rejecting his son just as we talked about the love versus justice thing wrath. As Paul washer said is God's hatred of evil and the reason why he has a hatred of evil is because he loves righteousness. He is righteous. There is a scripture that says love must be sincere.

Hate what is evil or up or what is evil. And that's true for us as humans when we see injustice and that's true for God.

It seems logical that those attributes are opposites there pretty tied together and make logical sense, even apart from what Scripture says, but of course what Scripture says matters most and we see God see his wrath and his grace in both the Old Testament and New Testament. So it's not that he is changed over time. It was my God of wrath.

In the Old Testament, and now he's a God of grace and love in the New Testament.

Now he he shows all those attributes on both sides of that divide. You hear a lot of in the progressive Christians in the film starting sentences with. I think her I don't want to do and worship a God like that IIII their own human reasoning is the foundation for what they believed to be right or wrong. There's not a lot of there's none actually going to will and what the Bible says the authority. The biblical Christian is not their own human reasoning, but it's the word above their own word final question for you today Brandon two-part question.

In making these two films now. The first one, and a lot of the false teachers and teachings going on within the Christian church today and the second one on progressive Christianity. What do you see as the future, not just Christianity and most broad sense Narrow it down to let's say the evangelical church the more professing biblical church.

What you think the future of evangelical churches going forward. In part two of the question is how did these films change you in making them okay Brandon Kimber will answer that question after this next break of the day here in the Christian worldview. I'm sneaking out little other soundbite from the film right now for Melissa Alisa Childers where she talks about how progressive Christians redefine words as that's what they do. That's how they they sell their false teaching and Christians often accepted because they're talking about God and Jesus. But there redefining what those terms mean, here's Alisa Childers from the film something we see very often in progressive Christianity is the redefinition of words so they will take words that Christians have historically understood to be defined in a certain way, they will assignment a new definition and then just use them in regular conversation as if we all understand the new meaning. So a great example of this comes from Nadia Bolz Weber who is a progressive Lutheran minister who wrote a book on sexuality and ending her view, we need to completely have an absolute upheaval as the Christian view of sexuality that she says we need to take everything that we believed for the last 2000 years and turn it to the ground so one of the foundations upon which she builds her argument is her definition of the word holy holiness. She defines the word holiness to mean something more like unity being together. It means there being unity between people and unity with God.

This is why she can give an example of someone having a one night stand and call it holy. That's how they redefine words right there.

Unfortunately, people get to see this is the Christian Realty were talking about progressive Christianity today when we come back and tell you how you can get the films for a donation of $30 or more. The Christian Realty stay two more coming up the critical race theory and its effect. Now we are simply an elliptical to Mary be used as tools not as a worldview, not a transcendent worldview above the authority of Scripture and we stand by the spring of this resolution is the Southern Baptist convention diverging from biblical orthodoxy over issues of women teaching men, sexuality, and critical race theory is this a bellwether of what's coming to your church by what standard is hundred and 10 minute DVD documentary about the battle taking place in the city can receive the DVD for a donation of any amount that Christian worldview to order that Christian worldview.or or call 18 646-2233 or lightbox 401 Excelsior, MN 55331 David Wheaton here to tell you about my boys then story of love, loss and grace. Ben was a yellow lab and inseparable companion stage of my life when I was single and competing in the professional tennis to. I invite you to enter into the story's tapestry of relationships within my aging parents childhood friend I would finally Mary and ultimately with God caused all things, even the hard things to work together. Order the book for your friend who needs to hear about God's grace in the gospel for the one who has gone through a difficult trial or loss just a dog lover in your life, sign, depersonalize copies are only or by calling one triple H646 2233. That's one 88846 2233 or my boy to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians to share the good news that all people can be reconciled to Christ through faith in Christ is out to get faith in Christ at the mission here of the Christian Realty radio program.

It's basically never sharpen biblical worldview and claim the true biblical gospel in that were doing up almost the contrast today to what progressive Christianity is selling liberal versions of Christianity that redefine words as we heard in that last soundbite in the end of the last segment there, how words are defined. Holiness is is redefine who God is his redefined in such Christian sounding language, but with totally different meanings that corrupts and guts the core doctrines and in gospel it corrupt, you can't.

You can't be saved through it because you're not believing in what happened if you don't believe in the true gospel you believing in a false gospel and that's why this is so serious and so important for Christians to understand.

I didn't get to tell you but then the last segment how to get the film at mount time. There, but they were offering both of these American gospel films there two hours and three hours long, respectively.

So their substantive documentary films on DVD, the each retail for 1799.

She can buy one of the other. That way, or for limited time roughing both films were donation of $30 or more to the Christian worldview can discover website to get the Christian artist call us at 1888 646-2233 or you can just write to us by mail and all these contact information is given out throughout the program you want take more time to to go over there right now but we have one segment left with the producer, creator of the film. Brandon Kimber never going to get into an article this week that was written in the Minneapolis Star Tribune that exemplifies exactly what were talking about was if the final moments with branding number.

In making these two films now, what do you see as the future, not just Christianity and most broad sense Narrow it down to let's say the evangelical church the more professing biblical church. What you think the future of the evangelical churches going forward. In part two of the question is how did these films change you in making them. I think from the very beginning the lie of Satan has always been you will be like God and has God really said this, and both of those questions and the questioning of Scripture and what God has said in Scripture and the belief that we can be little gods, you find that in both the prosperity gospel and in progressive Christianity in the prosperity gospel.

It's this little gods thing were you can control your reality and create health and wealth. Your dreams can come true in progressive Christianity, you have Richard Rohr's view that everything is Christ. We all have the divine DNA and were already in Christ. We don't need to be reconciled to God.

Where is the biblical gospel teaches that we are all dead and lost without Christ, and we need Christ to come and rescue us whether the teaching is ignoring matter focusing on other things. They may acknowledge it in their beliefs statements on the website and may mention a brief thing at the end of the sermon that gospel isn't the focus in maybe a prosperity gospel church or its either rejected completely by subtracting away those parts of the gospel of the wrath of God.

Hello the atonement. In either case, whether you're adding to the gospel or covering it up or your subtracting from the gospel. You have a different gospel. So I think false teaching will always be in the church from reading Scripture that there is a great apostasy coming and happening as culture changes to be more and more against Christianity.

People are going to pick sides, if they are nominal Christian there going to probably be honest and give up their faith. They were Christian to begin with I would say Bart Campolo's case that's what he did.

He was honest, you recognize that you didn't really believe any of these doctrines anyway so why should I continue calling myself a Christian.

In the film as well. Bart tells the progressive Christians.

Why don't you just come over and help me, it's better that you're honest then for these people to be in the church under the label of Christian and deceiving people just the process of this of making both films is definitely changed me. Even while making it. I left the church. I had attended for over a decade because I recognize that there was moralistic preaching and the gospel was being assumed and it was more about attracting nonbelievers into our church by making it more seeker sensitive, not wanting to offend people and I got into a more solid church and I just pray that these films can actually wake people up to recognize that maybe there in a church that they need to get out of and and find a healthy biblical church that preaches the true gospel and doesn't try to hide it, Brandon. We thank you for making these films you've had a lot of listeners order these, and for good reason. If you watch these carefully you are going to be informed. You can have sharper discernment you're going to come down and understand key doctrines of Scripture in a clearer way. Very well done on this and that. We appreciate your coming on the Christian worldview spending all this time with us in explaining some of the key aspects of the American gospel film so we just wish all of God's grace and best to you as you go forward with your your filmmaking career and we look forward to having you back on the Christian worldview sometime in the future. Thank you for having me are that concludes our series on with interest, years of interviews with Brandon, Kimber, if you missed any of them. You can go to our website the Christian we have all three interviews up there and also you can get the films you word for limited time roughing for a discount off the retail price $30 or more for both films that each retail for 1799, so you get them in a website's call us or write to us and we will get those out to you.

Be excellent for your church or for your Bible study group or just to watch with your family do in this sharpener worldview for sure. And I hope you have better discernment as to what is being sold to us both in sort of these health, wealth and prosperity movement extreme charismatic movement and also from the progressive movement of progressive Christianity as well. So again, progressive Christianity just undermines redefines and as they do that day they got the core out of biblical Christianity Sauternes into a non-saving gospel course they don't think they're doing at the always like to talk about Matthew 25. If you've done it to the least of these, you've done it unto me. You hear them whenever they reference that it's it's about a works righteousness gospel. If you do to the least of these. I thought your saved you help the poor and the imprisoned, and so forth that's that's a great thing at the that's imperative for Christians to do as as of as result of their love for God and her thankfulness to him is to help the least of these, but that doesn't merit salvation which is is what they try to sell progressive Christians is that that is the core of the faith is doing that and so they they got the core of the faith they challenge the authority and inerrancy of Scripture, they they redefined the character of God that he's just a loving God. He couldn't be raffled not just God and that they always attack this substitutionary atonement of Christ as as God killing his son. That seems like a wrathful revengeful God will not worship as Bart Campolo said they never believe in hell. That's disproportionate punishment and they redefined the morality of Scripture as well. Homosexuality transgender is him. This is those are victims. Those are the oppressed and so you can see there's that there is an emerging there others in aligning with leftist political thought and so this week just in preparation for this program.

There was an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune nest titled state-by-state anti-Trop evangelicals spread their message and again you even a tell their anti-Trop evangelicals. These are evangelicals working to read about this article that evangelical believes in the authority of Scripture. The inerrancy of Scripture believe that the gospel is that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, believes in preaching that message to others that there is individual conversion based on believing that these people are evangelicals BC there. They're using the term calling themselves evangelicals as clever, so that the defenses are down of other evangelicals there trying to convince to not vote for Donald Trump. Again, the endgame of of Christianity is not 40 for Donald Trump. Is this just an example of how progressives align with political leftism. So whether is abortion, homosexuality, the redistribution of wealth more of a socialistic system universal universalism of salvation, and so forth. All under the. The guise of helping the victim the oppressed the disadvantage again was that sound like things we've covered in the program so many times in recent months, social justice is all the same Stu with this different terms and so forth always goes back to that worldview. So to start the article, the Rev. Douglas Padgett, you think you have heard that name before Doug Padgett when he was a very well-known leader in the emergent church movement right from here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. He let a church and called Solomon's porch and again Tony Jones is another one who's from this area. Brian McLaren was another big mover in the America emergent church movement will Doug Padgett now jumped on stage article says at his former Minneapolis church with the Solomon's porch is no longer pastor there with a message that he and his entourage are repeating across the country. Evangelical voters. You can stay true to your Christian faith, but still not vote for president, Donald Trump, the their vote common good campaign misnamed the campaign vote common good and the aft asked the question common goodwill, according to whom, who's the common that were looking for good four conductor from a bright orange bus, making stops at every democratic state primary represents the small cracks in the evangelical base that helped propel Trump into office will get more into this article from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about progressive Christians what they're trying to do the real evangelicals after this next regular day here in the Christian world.

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Contrast the false teaching so prevalent today to true biblical Christianity for a limited time we are offering both films for donation of $30 or more to the Christian world you regular retailers 1799 each to order go to the Christian world or call one AAA eight 646-2233 right to Box 401 Excelsior, MN 55331 are final statement the day here on the Christian way of your radio program as we complete our series on the American gospel films. Today's topic at last week's progressive Christianity nose reading this article excerpts from it from the Minneapolis Star Tribune titled state-by-state anti-Trump evangelicals really there progressives religious humanist is a better, more probably more accurate term for them spread their message and we were Doug Padgett, who is a former leader of Salmon sports year in the Twin Cities and emergent church and part of that movement.

He is the one leading are part of this campaign going around the country in a bus. On this vote common good campaign trying to convince evangelicals to vote for Democrats, not for Donald Trump Padgett's campaign hopes to convince wavering evangelicals. The article said the president's character and actions are so out of sync with Jesus teachings that it's a moral imperative to remove him from office, quote a Christian pastor and God is the light of the world." Padgett told his audience early this much this month. Quote but not every light of the world should be president of the United States of America were not trying to make everyone Adamic Democrat just to vote for one this time.

Unquote the pastor says I just think about that for a second.

The president's character and actions are so out of sync with Jesus teaching us a moral imperative to remove him from office. Not I would disagree president top morally is not the paragon of virtue by any stretch. Think he might even admit that himself, but let's just analyze the candidates that Doug Padgett wants Christians to vote for every single candidate on the Democrat side is for abortion at all stages late term abortion post birth euthanasia. Maybe not all of them for that.

But they're all for radical view of killing the unborn that it it that would be enough in and of itself to to to do completely challenge and overturn any kind of moral standing at any of the Democrats have, but it goes beyond that to their advocacy for homosexuality and transgender is an even within children before they even have a consensual ability to to try to even think about making a decision like that which a decision that can even be done. You cannot change from being a man to woman or woman to a man Pete Buddha judged when the leading candidate is unrepentant homosexual. He is quote married quote unquote to a man unrepentant homosexual Mike Bloomberg just this past debate the former mayor of New York. He had all these nondisclosure agreements because of sexual harassment. All lawsuits with some of his former employees Elizabeth Warren Sen. from Massachusetts.

She lied about her ancestry claiming Native American ancestry. Joe Biden's is never been investigated for the corruption is taken place with his son and getting when he was vice president getting his son onto sweetheart highly lucrative deals over in the Ukraine and China making millions of dollars. Bernie Sanders, which had time to play the soundbite. His soundbite of him in the hearing before appointing doing one of Trump's appointments. Russell vote and basically denying it. Based on Russell votes Christian beliefs is truly un-American in them on an amazing to listen to so where is the high moral standing that Doug Padgett in this common good campaign is trying to get evangelicals to not vote for Donald Trump. Just listen to what people do judge had to say. This is exactly the progressive Christian. That's what people do judge is you. He's taught. He's a unrepentant open homosexual talking about Christian things and the moral imperative of getting rid of Trump town hall you sent. If your faith calls a premium to help the marginalized.

Those who are afflicted to comfort, to comfort people to strive for humility and decency as the Christian faith does and then I quote you I just can't imagine that that requires of you that you be anywhere near this president do you think it is impossible to be a Christian in support president will not to tell other Christians how to be, but I will say I cannot find any compatibility between the way this president conducts himself in anything that I find in Scripture. I guess that's my interpretation. But that's a lot of cars elected trumps moral behavior doesn't see any compatibility with Scripture about looking at yourself. People judge and seeing how you're living right now the president's grandpa said for sure some moral sin in his life and even now in his behavior. We've never condoned and on the program ever. We look at it.

Comparatively, his policies comparatively to what he's trying to do versus what someone like Pete Buddha judge is trying to do who's advocating for homosexuality transgender is him abortion even in the late terms I had time I go into the sound busted, but we don't very radical anti-biblical ungodly view of both morality and what government should do and it sometimes. I sometimes wonder you know in in curing this kind of interview today are watching these American gospel films, listening to the soundbites of some of these political cam candidates are reading this article about Doug Padgett trying to convince evangelicals to vote for a Democrat professing himself to be an evangelical Richard Rohr all. I just wonder why churches and pastors don't. More often talk about these kind of things in in and help their congregants have sharper discernment, so they are not deceived by these kinds of false teachers and false teaching because it's all over the New Testament.

Christ did it himself. Talk about the Pharisees and Sadducees very strongly warned people about their false teaching. Jude spent the whole entire chapter of Jude writing about false teachers. Second Peter Peter dated in his his second letter as well and it's other places throughout Scripture. So if if the Bible points out, these false teachers and their false teachings.

Why isn't this more done in churches today says in second Peter false prophets in this lesson.

How strong this is this it was last time you heard this in your pulpit at church. False prophets also arose among the people to sit there also be false teachers among you who will secretly introduce destructive heresies that the progressive Christianity. Does this destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

Many will follow their sensuality and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned.

That's exactly what's taking place. The way of the truth is being maligned and in their greed they will exploit you with false words, there is the deception of words their judgment from long ago is not idle in their destruction is not asleep, I mean this is very, very strong language talking about the destruction of these folks, but these like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed reviling where they have no knowledge it will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed.

You can read the rest of the chapter for yourself. Work on sentence to sentence chapter whole chapter in chapter 3 as well. Talking about false teachers and their false teaching how destructive it's going to be for them and how harmful it is for those who listen to them. That's why churches and pastors need to point these things out. Thank you for joining us today on the Christian real view with the good thing that Jesus Christ and his word are the same yesterday today and forever because we have a foundation of faith God gave us a book to be able to go to to know what his objective truth is, stand firm on that Christian and until next time think biblically and live according we hope to these broadcast turned your heart toward God's word and his son would receive a copy of today's program or sign up for our free weekly email or to find out how you can be reconciled to God through Jesus Christ go to our website the Christian, call us toll-free at one Tripoli 646-2233.

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