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June 8, 2022 5:30 am
Pastor Tom Kakadelis and Chris Hughes talk about how Pastors and Christians have a mandate to protect faith and freedom.
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You can learn more MA BTS.edu that MA BTS.edu speaking of pastors and having a great education like my guest today is Tom Keck about list and check Adele Starla butchered a number of your fame again. I cannot speak today.now I hear I have any with me is using the subject bill is a better friend for many years, we we passed each other kind of going at events all over the place, but especially when I'm in North Carolina I see a lot of you.
Tom is the pastor outreach director for the North Carolina family policy Council and for those you the listing across the country.
You don't have to live in North Carolina depreciate will talk about today and their policy councils and probably I don't know if you know Tom probably every state across the country and basically these are Christian organizations that help Christians develop biblical worldviews and there really on the forefront of fighting for issues in their individual state capitals and and Tom Fekete. Ellis is in North Carolina. He works with pastors and outreach, and Tom, thank you so much for being with us on the Christian perspective today. Thanks so much for having me at the pleasure to be with you. Well hopefully I will get tongue-tied anymore several hours today about my tongue and vibrator not coordinating but no, I just wanted tell you your once in a while you have a special friend of the show and Tom is just a man who has impacted me a way that he doesn't know he is a powerful testimony he loves the Lord and he believes in defending our nation and taking a stand for Jesus and a liberal culture that we have our country today and I'm just so honored that you're here with us Tom before we talk about some issues and what you're doing with the policy Council and I didn't warn you about this so look out but I wanted and on a problematic share with our lives are indelibly, Tom is and and then if you don't mind because I really like this part of it always like to ask my guest to share how they came to know Jesus because we might have people listening, who were Christians, or maybe the listing Tom and the Christians, but they think will my testimony that is exciting to somebody else I should tell anybody what Jesus and what we learn by hearing these testimonies every day is your Jesus touched each of us in a different way and you don't have to have some exciting you know I used to be a jail. Laura was in the gutters a drug addict. Testimony to be able to touch 11 somebody else when Jesus tells us all of the people that Jesus wants us to share our story what God did in our lives.
The judge other people. So can you cannot tell us about you and your family, your background are yet you think that ended up at work a lot. I was going to write yet I was born and raised in Connecticut and and spent the number of years there week family and one brother Christian counselor and Warrenton Virginia and the northern Virginia and he is also pastoring a church in front Royal, so he's lived in Virginia about 30 years, has three children of his own and then Wendell and my wife and I been married 44 years and we have two adult children and seven grandchildren out to where left to have them in and I've got two of them actually with me here at the house today as we we are finishing up a memorial day extended weekend with family so it's good to have them. I I came to know the Lord as my Savior and in June 6, 1972 leading up to that was a time where I had of the wayward streaks of high school I was I was really I think more directionless than I was in trouble and it was a matter of just realizing that my purpose in life had to have more than what I was anticipating in and thinking about and it was at that point I was encouraged to my mom encouraged me to visit Jesus coffeehouse up back in the 60s, late 60s and 70s that was the thing and they had coffeehouse set up Bible studies and people would would come in they would take in the wayward and the helpless and at that point my life I was neither. I was certainly without purpose, and I knew that there had to be more to and I sat down with a young man who'd had a pretty rough background and he led me to an understanding of what it meant every relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and it was at that point I realized I needed to be forgiven of my sin and that Jesus did that for me and I received in that night in June. Now going on just about just about 50 years ago, so it'll happy just on my my second birth birthday is coming up here in a week so that's that's how it happened but it wasn't until later in early through college that I realized there was more to walking in the Christian life that it was about just simply becoming a believer and fortunately I was connected with a really good church first Baptist Church in Atlanta and that my pastor there was very helpful and I me getting up solid understanding of what the Scriptures meant what they what they taught a belief that that the Bible was God's infallible, inerrant word that I could count on. I could depend on.
And at that point my life I really needed that it and so as I began my walk as an adult working and I was at that point time I was a project manager for a construction company. The Lord really touched my life and I yielded to the call to ministry full-time so that happened in 1977 and a year later, I married my now wife of 44 years and really the rest is rock 'n' roll history. So that's kinda what led to the place in the journey that began back then that paved the way for me to become pastor now 40 years and working with candidates and in working on policy issues and networking pastors that I do now. Thank you for sharing your testimony. I love what you said but having a relationship with Jesus because that's what it is this not a religion of Christianity is a about a relationship with Jesus Christ. That's what we we all need to have we going to college in Atlanta that while you're in Atlanta yes I was a student at Georgia Tech and I will attempt I got I got connected there and it was really it was a number of people that really wade into my life go through navigators and some the other ministries around campus.
Josh McDowell and others that that were actively going from campus to campus talking about what it meant to be a Christian and what it meant to face the conflict.
The conflict in the world and will what relation with God would do to manage that and help dad and overcome that and and that was really where I found my foundation yet you mentioned first that is Atlanta this to Charles Stanley Sterger.
Yes, he was faster, therefore right at 50 years, and I came there in 1974, 9073 and then asked to attend the church and then I was on staff there from 1980 till 1986. I realize that you work for Charles Stanley oh yeah, I was on staff there for almost 7 years.
What an incredible experience that had to be to were always terrific. Oh yeah, and he was the he was directly involved in our lives are about you're probably 15 or 20 of us that had since God called to ministry full-time during that two or three years I was there beforehand and then he sent me off to Western seminary, Portland, Oregon, and that's where I got my first two years of seminary and and then I came back on staff really for an internship for about three months and I ended up staying seven years and that point that after that timeframe.
My wife and I and our two children moved to California to plant a church which actually still going today. It's quite a bit larger than it was when I was there but it was probably about 200 when we left and now it's over 3000 so we planned that church and then move back to Charlotte North Carolina when both my and my dad and and my wife's mom were both aging. Getting ill and we we decided that maybe we be open to a change and was at that point that Michael pastor was on staff really encouraged me to pray about what God had for us back.
Ethan not long after that I got a call from a church to consider coming to you Atlanta to Charlotte. My parents and my in-laws lived in Atlanta at the time so we thought that would be closer than you know necessarily moving right to Atlanta so we took that position in Charlotte and when they're on staff at that church for about 20 years, almost 20 years and during that time my wife ran for school board in Charlotte Mecklenburg and one to terms was elected twice.
There is a Mecklenburg Board of Education and in our children were in the system for a number of years and then and then she got into education policy. After that, and we are both kind of half in ministry and happened in the policy world right now so that I do not think that ministry through the yeah he is from this initiative was doing since you left this, you must assess no, this show is brought to you by generous Joe's coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back to causes you care about. Order your copy today at shop generous Joe's.org and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget you or causes you care about blocking the fixed at 15 feet of Bible come to life and I joined nationally for radio host and found foundation to create life changes when the world of meaning, traveled from all over the world for thousands of reasons, religious clutter Christianity's most tragic limits you fight like a wailing rock again Chris through the winding alleyways to Nancy so the hand to place that I think is very Jewish portrait feet firsthand the Bible took place touring Israel with Dr. Chris Hughes is a travel on citizens financial foundation.com and get ready for an unforgettable trip last a lifetime time creating and sharing is in line enjoy history was made on one American on June 8, 1845 old Hickory died voted by his sword during the Revolutionary war. He later fought the Seminole Indians in the war of 1812 defeated the British at New Orleans he was governor of the Florida territory and is credited with having proposed the name Tennessee at that stage Ist convention is beloved wife Rachel died just three months before he took office as the seventh president of the United States is named Andrew Jackson the reference to the Bible.
Pres. Jackson stated that books is the rock upon which our public transit 1888 perspective today. Pastor outreach director for North alignment families is part of the policy kills organization which is across the country contacted Ellis Tom is a dear friend and is injurious testimony. I didn't realize some of things that I just learned from him already talking to the show today Tom I didn't know that your wife is a school board and I share with our own is just about every day. Been there a lot of what it elected positions across the country, but I think the school board is one of the most important positions, particularly now with just the sexual deviancy that is enter the school system and and some of the terrible curriculum things are being taught and for your wife to get elected in Charlotte, which is a pretty liberal area.
It's amazing that God gave her the opportunity to be on the school board for two terms. There Mecklenburg County, North Carolina.
Was it a pretty tough ride for her.
And in that sale that can be so liberal answer was, but I can assure you that during that time he was able to have an influence, even though of the nine members of them. Seven were basically left of center and not not I wouldn't say without values. They just were carrying the party line of what they felt like was the best the best interest of their constituents and the lintel and my wife had a number of opportunities to make a difference and to get involved so while she was on the school board. She helped start one of the very first charter schools in North Carolina.
Union Academy down in Downing Union County and she helped get that start served on the board there while she was actually on the district school board and then she began the process moving over into the private voucher private scholarship world where private money was provided for 500 families in North Carolina to attend schools of their choice. So Ted Foresman and and that the mother very wealthy people, provided that money and then she managed to about 3 1/2 million dollars to help about 500 families send their children to other schools other than while the school of their choice, and so she worked with them for probably about five years and then went to work for the John Locke foundation as an education policy consultant so she really went through the system. If you will.
Learning about what it what education looks like from public government perspective and then what it's like from the private world and and has worked with other organization sin to help establish both charter schools and now she had the charter school organization your North Carolina Colby coalition for charter schools public charter school so she started at about nine 2018 and has been serving as executive director and so we are in we are in the fray and we are fine with being in the fray and that's one of the reasons why we continue to support every type of educational opportunity but we are concerned about what's been happening especially in the last five or 10 years with what's been published and what school systems are adopting as as a print Beano both procedure as well as regulation to govern their their schools and it's a big concern is pretty scary to Tom. You did something most pastors don't have the courage to do not engage in the arena of public policy and politics. What led you to that and and for pastors listening, what more do they need to do because you realize something needed to be done in that arena.
What was the spark to get you to shift gears and get involved in this arena. Well I think Scripture first, I was prompted by the fact that when when the wicked rules of the people mourn. But when the righteous are in our the people rejoice and and so my goal has always been to help discover and encourage people who are spiritually sensitive governance engaged morally conscious and willing to put their lives, their families together to be servant leaders, citizens, and that what I try to do is help to see and help pastors to identify if not themselves. People within their congregations who are willing to serve in these different roles are about 18,000 physicians where available to people on election day that they could serve in places all over the country from the top and take it all away down the bottom of the ticket without being a particularly partisan because that's not my goal. I am personally of partisan, but when it comes to values and what the Bible teaches. My goal is to is to find people who are basically fit the qualifications of the Exodus 18 that that Jethro gave us guidelines to Moses regarding leadership and he instructed him to find able leaders who feared God who are honest and would not take a bribe, and those four qualifications are, what we look for for people to serve throughout our nation, and particularly North Carolina. But throughout our nation that will be the kind of citizen leaders that people can look up to and people can serve with and they can join with. They may not be that the head of the ticket they may not be the candidate but there's so many other positions behind the candidate that can help those candidates become successful and be good governors, not just good candidates. So we want them to get engaged and there is a whole category that George Barna has identified as what's called age, Sage, those are spiritually active governance engaged conservatives, Sage, that the acronym SAGE con meaning spiritually active governance engaged conservatives out there about 22 million of them in the country. Now we can't win an election with them alone, but most elections can't be one without them and so there's a real effort on the part about that. Whether where Democrats, Republicans, independents, or whatever.
We are people who want to be engaged and want to be involved at that level and so that's what I do.
Chris's I helped identify those people encourage pastors to find out how to get involved because my experience is Bennett. If I don't do it, then I'm going to be waiting for somebody else to do what God is called every citizen to do on and fortunately we live in a constitutional Republic where we can be involved that level there are so many people around the world that live under oppressive regimes and they can't.
So where we are able. As Christians we need to continue to stay engaged and to become informed and I like to go. Okay, as Peter preaches, you just said do what God is called every citizen to do what is it called them to do and do you really believe that the calling. Yes I do. I think I think one of when we live with family that as leaders within our families, whether a single parent. Whether we're fostering whether we are we had we raise what is may be called the traditional nuclear family are we dealt the fact is that our families are live under the Constitution, the United States and of each state and it's our responsibility within that working to rule as righteous people, and if we don't take that seriously. That responsibility then we're ignoring a part of what God is called us to do. First and foremost is the family. Secondly is the church and then thirdly is the government that we are under weird obey those that are in authority over us, or where to change those that are in authority over so we have to. We have the privilege and the responsibility of voting and so by being informed getting engaged we now only have quality candidates that can serve but we also can get others to vote and elect those people as well.
With that is so good be informed in engaging and we failed. I know you're working with pastors that I think many pastors have failed in that area of been running Christians and and course we can't pass it off just on pastors me. There's no excuse for any Christian not being informed of what's going on in society today and then being engaged once we are informed, so Tom you know work with the organization called NC family of the North Carolina family policy Council, can you tell us a little bit about that organization. Sure, we are an organization that basically seeks to we. We even envision a nation where life is cherished. Families are prospering and the church is expanding its influence to see people rescued from the cult of the clutches of the enemy. So we work hard to keep people informed on those issues that would affect us, especially if they're becoming regulation of becoming law or statute. So what we do is try to get to the legislators both for they become that things arm if you will, before the sausages may before the legislation is actually finished so that we are able to not only explain what we believe is biblical about why they should do one thing or another but also then help them craft the kinds of legislation that protects the family and encourages it encourages the work of ministry where it's possible to protect our freedom to clear religious freedoms and then to help others become aware of the importance of their own engagement on these things. So that's what NC family does and I work as a pastoral connector to get pastors together, particularly sometimes those that are different on many levels, but they agree on values and so that's what I'd attempt to close his office contacted Ellis he is our family policy can come back from the breakroom and talk more about what is organization is doing make Christians aware of these issues states. America has a strong Christian heritage, most Americans don't know if it's really important role in God and the Bible is indicated and found American foundation Dr. Chris for meeting the needs and crystalline bargaining journey stemming and rediscover much of America's Christian heritage up close and personal needs and how it evolved over the government and the men who helped forge the new kind of Republic acknowledge the creator of the truth about the creation of the mounting father Christian principles. American joint. This show is brought to you by generous Joe's coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back to causes you care about. Order your copy today at shop generous Joe's.org and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget the coffee you love or causes you care about the conservative Baptist network is a dynamic movement of Southern Baptist pastors and churches and Christians committed to standing for the sufficiency of God's word in the face of a culture of compromise.
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I may be wrong about this so correct me. Is this an offshoot of when when Dr. Dobson was a focus with family. I think he started the family research Council, which is now headed up by Tony Perkins. Are these like miniature family research Council's in individual states across the country there's a lot of similarities yet and I the entry. Basically yet I think what happened was when Dr. Dobson was making the trip in the late 70s early 80s he was going back to Washington DC all the time from Los Angeles where he lived, and he realized that that trip was becoming very difficult to do and so he decided to start an organization that was based in DC would be similar to what we now do with family HERE North Carolina and so on through a couple of different leadership development phases. Gary Bauer took that over. I think in the early 80s and when he did he really began to help Christian values be represented in the district, especially on the hill and in different avenues of influence in DC. The family research Council developed there, but then they realize that each state capital had the same concerns and so family policy Council began to emerge. Some 30 years ago that began to represent values biblical Christian values in the state capitals around the nation and right now I think there are 46 states that have FPC family policy Council and there is an alliance of family policy Council called the alliance of the family policy alliance that networks all of those statewide organizations together. Now, our director and president is John Rust inherent in North Carolina and he, along with our General Counsel lobby. As we get involved at the state legislature here thickly when they're in session and when committees are meeting to testify on behalf of life, family, liberty thickly religious liberty, and other things that are key ingredients to keeping our freedoms intact, and that's what John does there on in Raleigh.
Most of the time my brother involved it. If I can interrupt into their loved every day of state capitals in your case in North Carolina, not just informing the public what you're actually there representing God. If you will, in the state capital on issues like you're saying family and and and freedom of speech and maybe freedom of religion you're testifying all is policy matter experts before the legislature then not just any information other people but actually working with legislature legislators on a daily basis. Yet in our relationships extend now nearly 30 years. So many of our our our team is been in Raleigh for a longer period of time than most legislators have so seminars and penthouse members both because out to find out where we stand on these issues and how they can best represent the Christian bags are they registered lobbyist or just policy matter expert know their boat. There definitely registered lobbyist and they are involved on the clay building on Jones Street here in Raleigh throughout the throughout the year. Are you involved or the organization involved collecting and making candidate endorsements and involving campaigns as well. We don't do the endorsement part on the C-3 side because that where an educational institution that provides information and research for lawmakers as well as the public to know what the issues are and how to best address. We do have what's called the North Carolina family policy Council action group or entity family action.
That's a C4 and it's during the election season, when you get to the general election that that organization C4 side and endorse and so photos of your listener. Tom talking about a designation by the IRS or Internal Revenue Service were his organizations was called a 501(c)(3) which is that tax deductible.
If you make contributions to them. There are tax deductible for the purposes of education. So not want to go to their website and see how you can support important ministry work that they're doing what what is your website address, SNC family.org and see family.org so there was yet so just draw their testifying and you have a fairly good Gary started General Counsel germ oil is been there 25 years. Both of them worked diligently every day stay on top of things.
About 3000+ bills are introduced every long session to the Gen. assembly and it's our job to go through those bills and determine which ones will have the most impact on family and of faith and freedom. So we go through those bills and really identify and right now were down to about 13. Bill that are in the process.
Either they been vetoed by the governor there in the process of being voted upon. We have one right now that is a problem for the Senate right now on parental rights and that's a huge issue that's been going on in the last as you know, the last few years because of what the campaign was in Virginia last year and it is this year, North Carolina, and will continue to be.
I think through the presidential election soon so the. The goal is to reinforce the rights of parents to keep in the be informed about what's happening in the classrooms in our public schools. With regard to their children so that nothing is done there without the express consent of the parent and so that's what's going on right now. So in real time.
Our regular emails keep you informed on what's happening in come the pathway that were going down our delays in my annual newsletter that looks like a magnet called North Carolina family and it's the magazine that we produce on key issues that comes out usually every spot six months something like that and then on a regular basis, we inform folks what they can do to make their voices known in Raleigh.
As you other family policy councils in their state capital as to what's going on and what they need to do to let their legislators know their feelings about the things we continue to keep people informed on that on a regular basis so that there able to exercise their God-given responsibility to citizen and as such important work so Tom testifying and doing research on bills but you also have a very important role with with North Carolina family policy Council tell us what you're doing and and how that's embedded in culture produced right well two years ago we decided that we needed to take the message of getting engaged out to the state itself. And so I began the process of traveling through all 100 counties in the state have been about 72 of them now in the last two years with the purpose of getting together groups of pastors and individuals who are leaders within their community to take an interest in the very things that will affect Allender County a particular state in certain issues and I do that with what we call pastor briefings and pastor seminar and we call them salt like pastor seminars.
We not only provide resource for parent patches to do that in their community. We also invite them to come to Raleigh to have a pastors seminar their where they get a chance to meet legislators learn what it means to be a lobbyist and what's involved with advocacy. We teach them about what their limitations are what a biblical of the five pillars of the biblical worldview and then we talk them about how they can teach that as well as act on that with their carnations to community impacting and other resources.
So that's what I do on pastor side and then we began high school students seminar all felt like students, seminar, and that provides a way for students to come to Raleigh with their group.
We like to encourage 10 to 15 students come with chaperones and then they we take them through an orientation, a biblical worldview. We take them through understanding advocacy and we resume them in if you can't physically take the men resume them into a Senate or House committee meeting where the debate is going on on particular issues of importance we feed them a little lunch and then when we go down to the legislature to tour the legislative building meet their senators and House members and give them a tour down there to get a familiarity with the building that really is their ability really the people built until give them a chance to get familiar how they can get involved what they can do to make a difference with the students seminar and the pastor seminars that I've really taken more responsibility in the education of what our government is like what our Constitution, our cost work and what we can do as individuals to stay engaged so you're actually involved in that. That's under your division. Even with what students write when you're traveling Tom across the stake that is probably the same are listed across the country's what kind of reception are you getting for pastor that I know when I travel a lot a lot faster like what we don't want to get involved in politics.
We believe in separation of church and state. You run into that. How do you overcome that with fast, great question, and how we overcome it is really easy when you talk with pastors usually end up with the conversation around what matters to them most and I usually start with the top of mind issues that they feel are affecting culture today and we all know that the basic answer to the question is a relationship with Jesus Christ.
If people knew the Lord much of the problems in our culture would go away, but the legislative process and the reason we have constitutions and laws and the things that we do to enforce them is because everybody is not a Christian and everybody doesn't respond the spiritual promptings of the Holy Spirit so they don't they don't know.
And so, without having an influence over it. You are left to whatever those who carry different values than you have the be the ones that influences so try to help pastor see were not asked to become partisan rack and displaying gauge educator carnations give them tools to do that and we help them with no lessons like Exodus 18. How do you go to the polls and vote we go to the polls to vote for people who have those four qualifications. Those four character qualities they are able. They fear God there honest they will take abroad those of the kinds of people we want to be serving so we encourage them to identify those people within their churches started community impacting which allowed them to stay informed the place where information can get funneled to the congregation. We give them information about nonpartisan voter guide information about bills that are going on and help them in the process so that they're not left to try to invent all of that information or to research it all themselves and that way we become the resource that helps them to get that done. We have well over 400 churches in the state and probably as many as 800 that are influenced by the things that we are providing resources we deliver and also our general election voter guides that we shipped to churches to hand out to people to know where they stand on the issues that matter to church and Christian believers. That's what we try to do to keep them informed guess pastors have a different level of acceptance to that, but you know relationships matter and by helping to build those relationships over time. I am among others able to help them further along in the process where they might be a little bit hesitant to be partisan, same are to be assessed that many people right now to talk about taking the consult name, organization or individual life can be difficult for social media, graphics cards give us a call today at 704984242 connect with the design on social in a world crowded with viewpoints of voice condition after a seven.
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This show is brought to you by generous Joe's coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back to causes you care about. Order your copy today at shop generous Joe's.org and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget the coffee you love or causes you care about the time creating is there 39 relationship is not rain sharing is in line enjoy the United States of America has a strong Christian heritage, most Americans don't know the truly important role in God in the Bible is indicated in founder American foundation, Dr. Chris before meeting Dave Internation crystalline bargaining journey stemming and rediscover much of America's Christian heritage up close and personal and how it evolved over the government and the men who helped forge this new kind of Republic acknowledge the creator from its very inception the truth about the creation of about the fate of the mounting father Christian principles. American joint perspective on issues like yesterday. Contacted Bill if Tom is outreach director for the North Carolina policy Council, even though the work he's doing is in North Carolina principles that he is sharing. No matter where you live in the country today for a listing apply to you as well and to your church. I Tom, you mentioned skews me something called community impact teams talk little bit about it but keep going greater detail of what that is and how can consumers start those in their own church. Yes, there are four aspects to the community impacting and requires really very little to get it darted. What happens is not like a committee but more like a an action team. We encourage a couple or couple of individuals to get together who are already interested in seeing what's happening in the culture somebody from the church that can help be the liaison to the pastor and will help the pastor stay informed on the issues that matter. And so what we do is identify those two people recruit to others and those four people become the basis of the community impacting that could grow larger. Over the years, but that impacting carries four responsibilities. First, to become informed the most important thing is to get good information, we want to provide resources and information not just from North Carolina family policy Council, but for example we have a parent guide on transgender and what you do as a parent to walk a child that you have a question about.
Are there some some issue that's facing that family. This is a guide that's produced by the Minnesota family account.
It's a parent's guide to transgender is then we put weak but through the information and resources that are available with family research Council as well as our own.
We provide those resources as a way to get that community impact team up and going.
I come and do training. I do training both both by zoom or by email at phone calls and and I actually do them in person. Now that were getting moving along in time with the issues that have held elders back in the last few years, but we are now doing in person training, so I come and do those training and that helps the team begin to coagulate get there and focus get them informed through the second step, which is what we call equipping and then equipping step is just to help not only warm them up at things. But what can you do to help equip the Carnation and also to provide resources to the pastor for how to approach the subject of teaching on these issues. Sometimes teaching about it is one thing, sometimes having a dialogue about it. Sometimes it good to have a conversation like we did and the church in Aberdeen this past couple of Sundays ago we had an a dialogue conversation three people on the panel.
Plus plus the pastor and we discussed the whole issue of abortion in a post row O versus Wade era and how would the church respond to people who had abortions. How do we help people get resources to avoid that process. What about fostering children adopting children. So these are all tools that we can provide to the churches that talk about very difficult subject then the second.
The third step is to alert when something comes up in Raleigh.
We try to get them in real time information as to what they can do to address the concerns that are out there so we informed we equip we alert and then we mobilized that the fourth phase of the community impacting in the resource manual that is comes along. The training provided them with ways that they can mobilize sometimes it's not around up a hot issue.
Sometimes it's simply building a bridge, for example, how can we do vacation Bible school together with the church that historically black or historically white and how can we work with pastors who don't necessarily agree with us on some of the other issues but agree with us on pro-life so we look at ways that we can build a bridge between churches and pastors to help them work together. That is the engagement and mobilization process that is so important for community impact teams to do and then we utilize opportunities that come up where parents are and have a circum-circumpolar circumstance that has come up where they have to address the concern in their school. We help them formulate a way to approach it in a biblical and Christian with a with a loving attitude towards others but not backing off of our value and that way we are able to make a statement by saying that we believe is best for the community, not just because the Bible says it, what we believe is better for the entire community. If we govern ourselves this way or that. That way the community impacting continues to have an influence on the community even when there's not a hot issue in front of them.
So the community epic team has four different responsibilities to inform, equip, mobilize, ending our engage and mobilize so that those of the things that those teams actually do to keep their churches informed of what's going on or not that's needed. So if they want to get more information. Which website address again and see family.org and see family.org and they can get community impact team information as well as any of the other things that we talked about by combos that stuff is not just specific to North Carolina. This is stuff you can use all over the country and I know Tom has a passion, even though he is working mainly North Carolina for pastors and churches.
He will help you no matter where your time.
We got about three minutes of this may not be able to cover this in three-minute, but several times today you mentioned the pillars of biblical worldview can you get Lane what that is yet there for basically you can teach the subject of a biblical worldview, a number of different ways but because of what I've learned over the years. I believe there's five basic pillars that establish what a biblical what a worldview is there basically the tenants of a religion or of a belief system that you carry that you may not even know you have but that you believe certain things are true, even though you may not even know how you come to those conclusions. Those five pillars are origin, morality that the determination of what's right and wrong, I like go about determining that what is the problem in the world.
Problem what is the solution to that problem in the world and then what is the ultimate destiny of humankind. So we talk about the origin of humankind problems of the determination of morality which is the determination was there right and wrong and how is it determined what is it all essential problem in the world today. What is the ultimate solution to that problem and then what is the destiny of humankind. So those five pillars determine what you believe about pretty much everything in the land which you view the world. So in it from a Christian worldview that is that we believe that creation was done by God starts with God's purpose in his glory. That's the origin question answered in morality.
We obviously know utilize the Bible as the standard for that. But then there are other things within the Bible specifically to help us to form the framework for with we determine what is right and wrong, but the ultimate problem in the world is sin and that we talk about what that means in this an understanding of biblical worldview and how the enemy of our souls determines what that problem is and how we confronted and then the solution we understand to be the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and his his life that is becomes our life. The time we receive him with the ultimate destiny of being that one day we will be with the Lord and that's the biblical worldview. That's very fast you a bit but then we talk about going on today with woke religion you realize that evolution has been being taught in our classes in our school system for many, many, many moons about decades and that evolutionary system teaches that there really is no God, there really is only what I determined God to be and that that morality is determined by my truth, not your true you have your truth. I have my truth. We determine what our own truth is, and we do what we believe is best for herself. According to the Bible. It would be like judges. Every person did that which was right in their own eyes and then the ultimate problem with woke religion and what I believe to be cultural Marxism is that injustice is the problem not sent so you can't really identify an individual and you can't really find yourself read of the problem because injustice is assigned to groups not individuals. So injustice is something out there that is determined by whatever anybody thinks is injustice and that the solution for injustice is revolution that the ultimate answer the ultimate destiny of someone in the woke religion is to is utopia now in those five on those five pillars.
We then realize how much of that is been determined by Marxism and that's why for another show. On another day. You and I might want to talk about what cultural Marxism is who these people are that were at the root of that wire educational system has embraced it and what is ultimately the food that that would be for a much longer conversation. We need to have you back do that.
Tom is been such an honor to have you on the show today.
Thank you for taking time away from your grandbabies and left to go.
Bob present for them let their grandfather be with us for an hour today. Thank you so much for being a Christian Bible writer Chris and I really do appreciate your effort to get the word out to people to stay engaged to be prayerful formation, not to wait for somebody else to do what you can do folks, if you will learn more about what Tom is doing. You can visit NC family.org that in see family.org of course you can listen to this later today or be released on podcast format and you can sure of social media with your friend to your pastor to really hear about the work, thank you for listening. Everyday we appreciate it will affect what we learn that the Christian perspective. Learn more about impacting the culture for Jesus. Visit citizens for America foundation, this is the Truth Network