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An apologist, Christian political advocate, and author, here is the founder and chairman of the Citizens for America Foundation, Dr. Chris Hughes. Hello and welcome to Christian Perspective. It is Family Friday and we're talking with Connie Albers like we do every single Friday. And today we're going to talk about how to keep your child engaged in God's word. It's an important topic because we, you know, on this show we try to encourage people to develop a biblical worldview. You can't do that if you're not engaged in the word of God. And as parents, God has charged us to engage our children.
So you're going to want to call your friends, ask them to get on the show and listen, and we are going to jump into it in just a second. But before we start, I want to thank Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary and the College at Mid-America for allowing us to have the Christian Perspective studios right here on their beautiful campus in Memphis, Tennessee. It's a great Christian college where you can learn to develop a biblical worldview and you can send your kids here knowing that they're going to be taught from the word of God no matter what class. It's great to be in a class where professors pray with you, they understand God's word and the inerrancy of scripture and sufficiency of scripture and how we as Christians need to build God's word into every aspect of our life. It's a great school and the seminary is wonderful as well.
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Go to citizensforamericafoundation.com to learn more and to register today. Well, Connie, it's Family Friday, and we are kind of taking a deeper topic today. Sometimes we're lighthearted or joking around about different things, but today we're going to learn about God's Word, how we can engage our children in God's Word. And I know you recently attended a national conference, so tell us about that and what you learned about engaging our children in God's Word. Thank you, Chris. It's so good to be with you all and your listeners again today.
I love our Family Fridays, our times together. You know, I went to the National Religious Broadcasters Conference, and you were there as well for some of it. And, you know, when I wrote Parenting Beyond the Rules, it was really birthed out of working with teens and college kids for 25 years, just listening to their conversations, what they wish they could say to their parents, or how their parents reacted when they would try to be open and honest with their kids, or the spiritual aspect of they knew all the right answers. Every answer to any question involving spiritual matters with Jesus, they got that. But what started happening is, during the teen years, it wasn't making that transferring from head knowledge to heart knowledge, because so many kids know about God. But how do we help them have a relationship with God? It isn't our job. I mean, Chris, as Mom and Dad, I wish we could have our kids have that intimate, personal relationship with the Lord.
We can't. That's the work of the Holy Spirit. But we can facilitate and encourage and teach and really disciple our children in what it means to have a genuine walk with the Lord, versus an inauthentic, yeah, I'm a Christian, but I go to church on Sunday, or I live stream, which is current now, I mean, since COVID has happened, churches were shut down, they're not essential. And you know what got communicated to our kids, Chris, was that, oh, church isn't that important. Grocery stores, yes, that's very important. Other industries were deemed essential, but churches, nah, we can live with them, we can live without them. And I believe that had a rippling in our children, because everything was stripped away from them.
So in our segment today, when we talk about how to keep your kids engaged, well, that's going to be the fun part. Because at the National Religious Broadcasters Conference, I heard Dr. Arnie Cole, who is the CEO of Back to the Bible. He's an international radio and internet minister.
I mean, that's what his ministry has been. He is a pioneer in the field of research, which is what I specifically love, because we can spout out numbers, but I want to know what's the research behind it, and I'm sure many of your listeners are the same. We want to know what is actually happening.
We can see what's happening in our home, we can see what's happening in our country, but what's happening across the whole spectrum? And that's what he has spent most of his professional life doing is tracking trends of human behavior and developing programs that can actually help change negative behaviors, which is so important. But in his current role of CEO at Back to the Bible and the director of research and development for the Center for Bible Engagement, Dr. Cole has been dedicated to the mission of leading people into a dynamic relationship.
I found his session to be so critical, and it got me thinking about questions that I get every day, Chris. People are reaching out because parents are desperate. They're trying to figure out how do we keep our kids engaged, not in church, but in their walk, in their faith walk, in their journey.
Something that Dr. Cole's research kind of shed a light on, which I'd seen, but I didn't know that was the number. It's always been your college kids are the ones that walk away from their faith because they're out of the house and they're being exposed to all this information that they had never really been exposed to because mom and dad were sheltering them. I say that with quotes around that, but it's the 15 to 17 year olds. They're the ones now that are starting to walk away from the church, and why are these kids leaving the faith? Is it because they weren't able to go to church on Sunday?
I don't believe that's the main cause. I believe the main cause, Chris, is that we're not actually engaged in the Bible. We read all these great books, and by all means I want people to read Parenting Beyond the Rules, but if that's going to be your sole resource to understanding what God has for your child, it's going to be woefully lacking. That was something I found quite disturbing, is that 70% of Christians don't even read their Bibles.
Not online, and not in person. But Chris, what we have learned is that since COVID, kids are spending well over 9 to 10 hours a day on their devices, and they're not reading the Bible app. They're engaged in conversation in the world of ideals and ideas and theology, exposed to a range of topics that they previously were only dabbling in, now they're deeply immersed in. I'm not saying that that is wrong, not all of it is wrong, but if we're not engaging with our kids and pointing them through our example and through taking time together to not just do devotions, but to implement certain practices, our kids could easily become one of those statistics. That's pretty scary, but it really is happening around the world. As Citizens for America, we work a lot with college kids on college campuses, and what you're saying is right. A lot of kids walk away from their faith, and particularly in college.
There are a lot of factors, and I hope that we can jump into that. You talk about having a dynamic relationship with Jesus, what does that mean? You're a pastor, and I'm sure over the years you have had to address this often.
But the difference is, one, is I know about somebody because I've done a Google search. That is different than truly knowing and having a relationship that's personal with someone. People are sitting there, okay, but Jesus, he was crucified a long time ago.
How are we supposed to have this relationship with somebody that isn't actually present? Well, because God is active and living, and he wants to commune with us. So the difference, Chris, is knowing about God. Oh, God did all these things.
He performed all these miracles in Scripture. He led all these people, but they don't understand how he leads them. As a parent, as somebody in ministry or leadership in a Christian space, we need to help our own family. We need to teach our children what that difference is. When you really get to know somebody, it means you've spent time with them. You know their heart, you know their character, you know that their desire is for your good. You know that they can be trusted, and more than that, in a Christian realm, knowing Jesus is that salvation that comes from putting your trust in him. As a child who prays the sinner's prayer, as often said, in religious spheres and different denominations, there is childlike faith that has to grow and mature as your child grows and matures. And their reasoning and their understanding and their experience with the Lord grows and develops. And they learn that, oh, what I believed as a child, by faith, I see manifest in my older years. That we see that God is active, he's alive, he's present, he leads us.
And that does not happen just by knowing about someone. It involves that spending time and learning about the nature of who God is, the real, true God. Does that make sense, Chris?
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For a free transcript, call American Minute at 1-888-USA-WITH. Welcome back to Christian Perspective. Connie Albers and I today are talking about, you know, every Friday we talk about family issues, but today is such an important issue because we're talking about how to keep your child engaged in God's Word. And right before the break we were talking about our relationship with Jesus and God. It's not just about knowing that God exists. That's not a relationship.
A relationship is something personal. And that's really the difference between Christianity and a lot of different religions around the world today. A lot of people, their God could be an idol or some inanimate object, but Jesus Christ is living. He is the living God. He's the one true God. And if you're a follower of Jesus Christ, if you're a Christian, somebody who has admitted your sins to the Lord and asked Him to forgive you of your sins and repented, which means you change what you're doing.
It's like going down the road and doing a U-turn and going back that other direction. You promised to serve Him all of your life and made Him the Lord of your life, then you're what we call a Christian. And being a Christian means that we have a personal relationship with Jesus. My son, Connie, it was about ten years ago, he was just a little fellow and we were at an ice skating rink in Hawaii. Of all places they learn how to ice skate in Hawaii.
Where it never snows. But I was just amazed because he, I don't know, he might have been nine or ten years old. And I happened to be sitting close where he was sitting with a boy and he was witnessing to him. And he told the boy it's not about having a religion, it's about having a personal relationship. What is a personal relationship? Well we all have, like our spouse, maybe if you're married, Vicki and I have a personal relationship. That means that she is part of everything that I do. She's on my mind all the time.
I want to talk to her and share things in my life with her. It's not some distant thing. And that's the way it needs to be with Jesus. We should be so excited about, Connie, you and I right now, we're involved in planning this big conference that's coming up.
On April 30th, the Culture Engagement Summit, which I hope our listeners will attend. And blessings are happening every day. And when they happen, I want to thank God for what he did. I want his guidance as we try to decide what speakers and other things that come. But being a Christian doesn't mean that God's just some genie.
I mean we've got to be careful when we're teaching our kids. God's not a genie. He's not somebody you just ask favors for all the time.
A relationship, he's a friend. We want to talk to him all the time. We want to be with him all the time. Prayer, you know a lot of people when you say prayer, they think they've got to fall down on their knees.
And certainly that's part of it. There's times I want to be on my knees with God. And I try to find a time every day to do that. But yesterday, Connie, I was driving to Washington D.C.
I spent almost 11 hours in car. I can't close my eyes, I can't get on my knees, but I talk to God all day long. And I'm not trying to be super religious here, y'all, when you hear that. I'm just saying he is part of what I am. It is a relationship where I want to share with him. I want his advice. I just want to talk to him. Sometimes I talk to God about barbecue or my dogs or whatever it might be.
And he wants to have that kind of relationship with us. But part of the way we hear from him, Connie, is through reading the Bible. And you said, I think you said 70% of Christians never even read their Bible.
And that is just a shocking statistic. How can we hear from God? That's a big part of what we do on this show, Connie, is we want people to know what they believe and why they believe it. So if Christians, if 70%, and it's probably higher than that, don't read their Bible on a daily basis, and some never read it, and then they go to a church and George Barna, who's another researcher like Dr. Cole, you were talking about, George Barna says that less than 10% of pastors in America who profess to be evangelical pastors ever address a lot of the issues that we cover on our program, you know, abortion, homosexuality, family issues.
They never address them. So if you don't read your Bible, and George Barna also found statistics that even among Christians, people who profess to be Christians, and people who profess to be faithful churchgoers, only go one and three Sundays. So if you never read your Bible, and even if you're faithful, you only go one and three Sundays, and you sit under the 90% of pastors who never address these issues, how in the world can you know what God wants you to do, or what you believe and why you believe it, if you're not engaged in the Bible every day?
So Connie, as parents, how do we do that? At what age, you know, are there ways maybe to, and I'm kind of putting you on the spot here, but are there ways to begin engaging young children in Bible? Do they need to see us read the Bible? How do we engage our kids in the Bible?
Well, that's all that you just said. I mean, when our children are little, Jesus said, you know, don't stop the little children from coming to me. So the nursery rhymes, the Aesop fables, yes, you know, I did homeschool my kids, and I taught those to my children. There's value to that. But if we want our kids to know where to turn when times are hard, when trials face us, and they're able to stand up and sail through life's storms as an adult, if that's what you want for your family, then it starts with learning the Bible when they're little.
It doesn't have to be long, drawn-out passages when they're five and six years old, it can be simple songs. You know, Jesus loves me, this I know. That is etched in their heart. Going, memorizing one little verse, God is good.
You know, God is with me. Little tiny phrases that you build on, it's kind of like stacking. You know, you teach them, and then you teach them something as they grow and mature more in depth, as their brain starts to develop, and their reasoning skills of, okay, well, if God says this, and I learned this from a little child, how does it apply when I'm a middle schooler, my hormones are going crazy, and my brain circuitry is developing, and I just can't even figure out, you know, why I'm feeling so down today. Or, you know, in high school, and they get deeply hurt by a friend, or let down by someone in the church. You know, if they don't have the word of God hidden in their heart when they're little, there is a vat, there is a void, what do they draw from? The positive means they see on social media, or the pithy statements that they hear that, man, they sound so good and so positive.
Excuse me. It sounds so positive. But, you know, Chris, if they don't, if we spend all our time reinforcing, I am strong, I am brave, I am confident, yes, you are all of those things, but please, mom and dad, grandma, grandpa, come back to why you're strong, why your child is brave, where does that source of strength, where does that hope, that source of hope that I can get through the death of somebody that I love, or the financial setback, or not getting the job I wanted, or my best friend turning on me and talking bad about me on social media and embarrassing me.
They have to have a reservoir to draw from. But if they think that, and sometimes parents do this, Chris, they pour into their kids, and then when they get into high school, they just kind of like, okay, well I poured into you, now you go do it. This is a continual process, and it doesn't stop. It slowly starts to change and transfer, but do we have time for me to tell a quick story, or do we need to go to break?
Yeah, you've got a couple minutes, go ahead. Okay, so I was at a prayer breakfast the other morning, and I heard an NFL player sharing his road to the NFL, and his dad was with him. So it was the most beautiful thing of a dad telling his perspective, who happened to be a pastor, and the son telling his perspective, and listening to these two, I write in my book, Parenting Beyond the Rules, about family meetings. And this NFL player said, I asked the Lord, Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, I trusted the Lord, I needed to obey the Lord, but it didn't mean we had to, it didn't mean that I could just get there by osmosis.
I had to work really, really hard. Now, as a believer, as somebody who wants your children to follow the Lord, and stay engaged, and not walk away from their faith, we want to teach them that God's word is true, there's certain things we have to be doing, there's certain disciplines we have to implement in our lives, there's certain things our kids are going to have to say no to, there's certain things they're going to say yes to, and that slow transference, where a reliance of, okay, mom and dad have been teaching, that teaching and training, like you with your children, they're not living with you, but you're still teaching and training them, and reminding them who God is, and what God has promised, and how we need to walk in His ways, and walk in a manner that's worthy of the calling before us. You know, when we do that, that's like this beautiful relationship of what we started our conversation off with, Chris, and that is, there is a relationship, not head knowledge about. We have to be constantly showing and pointing our kids back to see how God is working in your life, see how God has protected you, or see how God has provided for you. Does that make sense?
Yeah, it really does. Folks, we're talking with Connie Albers today, like we do every Friday, and today is such an important topic, because we're talking about how to keep our kids engaged in God's Word. That's a responsibility that we have as parents. We want our children, as followers of Jesus Christ, we want our children to have a personal relationship with Jesus, and to understand the importance of His Word. I want to come back from the break, Connie, I want to share a few ideas, and I know you've got some too, of how we engage our kids with God's Word.
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Welcome back to The Christian Perspective. I'm Chris Hughes and my co-host Connie Alberts is here with me like she is every Friday, always talking about family issues. Today is really, I mean we talk about a lot of family issues.
We talk about things that, sometimes I talk about cooking and food and we talk about real life issues of dealing with kids living with us or our parents living with us or how technology has affected our family. But today is such an important topic because we're talking about how to get our children engaged in the Word of God. It is a challenge in today's world and it's so important that our children understand God's Word.
So Connie, I was thinking as you were talking in the first segment some of the things that Vicki and I did with our kids and certainly we don't have the perfect mold and our kids aren't the perfect kids. But I think one of the things that we need to do as parents is our children watch us all the time as you know Connie and they're learning to see what we do and it's one thing for us to say that the Bible is important and that prayer is important but if they never see us read the Bible or pray is it really that important to us? And I think not that you're staging anything I mean every Christian should have a daily time of Bible reading and prayer but I think it's important for our kids to see us reading the Bible.
Like Vicki likes to go to her office and really have a quiet time where nobody really sees her. But I thought a few years ago, particularly my kids you were talking about teenage years a while ago and how sometimes we don't engage as much when they're teenagers and God just convicted me and it might be the same for everybody that I needed to, I mean the kids know I travel and preach and speak around the world but I needed them to see that I was doing what I said others should do so I would make a point of I don't get up as early as you Connie goodness you get up at 5 o'clock why in the world I don't know but I would go in the morning so either they saw it or they didn't but I sit at the kitchen table and have my Bible there where they would know if they got up earlier got to go to the bathroom, got to go to school they would see that I really was reading my Bible. Do you think that's important for parents to model that and for kids to see it?
Yes, absolutely. I mean children don't do what we expect they do what we inspect so we expect them to live this life and if they don't see us modeling it it's a conflict for them it's that whole double standard do as I say, not as I do and I say no, we have to if we want them to follow the Lord they have to see it and that's why Chris when our kids hit the teen years we started opening our home up to have, and we talked about this on one of our shows we opened our home up and we had food fellowship and fun and that was that show when we talked about food and what we love to serve and cook but kids are genuinely hungry for the word of God now, I love what you said about Vicki because my husband goes in his office and that's where he has his time with the Lord it just gives him the opportunity to focus I will be wherever sometimes I'm on the back porch sometimes I'm in my office sometimes I'm in the living room but the key is do the words that we speak match are they in alignment with how God says we're supposed to live our life what we spend time focused on where we spend our time it's going to seep out of our pores so if we're reading God's word and we're focused on God says to be kind the fruit of the Spirit, be kind, be gentle, be patient if we're reading that and that comes in us that becomes part of us and then that becomes how we speak to our children that's another part of the whole modeling so if you, mom and dad I just want to stop for a second Chris because when we start talking about this it's very easy for someone to think well you did it, you had your devotions every day or you had this idealistic thing no, I didn't, I'm a mom of five we had five kids in seven years I didn't have time for hour long devotions sometimes Chris, it was averse it was it, it was like God helped me all I need is like give me one thing alright fine, I am your refuge I am your hope in times of trouble and I would just have to chew on that okay God you said you're going to help me deal with all these kids today or deal with this crisis that's going on Chris, if we tell our children that spending time in the Word if we just spend four days a week we just engage, if we just get into God's word if we commit to reading one verse a day or one verse before we go to bed put the Bible by your bed stand and then when you wake up in the morning before you grab your cell phone or unless you have the Bible app make that, I'm going to read just one verse Lord just one, you'll be amazed at the end of the year if you just do one verse that's 365 verses that you've just spent time contemplating and then if you talk about it because in Deuteronomy God's word says talk about it to your children as you walk by the way, as you get up, as you lie down I mean, it's supposed to be part of our life not one hour a week I agree, so many things are coming to my mind, I'm going to probably get off of parenting kids for a second but reading your Bible is so important I encourage you as listeners some people don't like writing in their Bibles Connie, I write all up in mine but something that someone recommended to me a few years ago is okay, and I know some people are going to get mad here because some people are like King James only and I'm not against that and I prefer the King James Bible and I preach out of the King James Bible but I read other versions too you need to find the version that is best for you and you're not going to hell if you don't read the King James Bible and read some other version but you do want you know, one that's accurate somebody recommended me a few years ago that person got a new Bible every year and sometimes it's a different version and that would be their reading Bible like I know a lot of preachers who have a preaching Bible they only preach out of it but that's not the one they study out of because that one's all torn up because they tore it up, just because they viewed it so much I liked that idea and so sometimes I buy when I preach or my personal my main go-to Bible I don't know if it's real leather or fake leather but it's not a hard copy, a hard cover but for my reading Bibles I got where I like to hard cover kind of like a textbook from school because it's sturdier, it can take more use and wear and tear and then I like to keep a pen out and I don't know if you know David Burton, he's actually from Florida an evangelist that's based I think just outside of Jacksonville, you may know him but David Burton keeps like a little six inch ruler and he calls it reading the newspaper every day and he'll make posts on Facebook and that kind of thing but he has a Bible he marks up and he has a little six inch ruler and he has different colored pens and he'll make notes in that Bible and underline using his ruler so don't be afraid make it a part of your everyday life and read it, get in it but Connie I want to get back to parenting and how we get our kids in the Bible and again, I've made many failures in my life I'm not claiming to be the expert here but I would encourage you parents, you buy all these little books and you have these little story books that you get for kids, it's kind of like as adults and so I'm not saying don't read Connie's book, read Connie's book, it's great but we read a lot of other books in our devotion time and we don't spend some time reading the Bible as much and another book, even though it might be good it might help us understand a topic is not a substitute I don't know how you feel about that Connie but not a substitute for actually reading God's word I mean I've written books on Revelation and time and stuff like that but it's not a substitution for digging in God's word itself and reading God's word but with our kids, their story books and fairy tales and that kind of thing, all those things are fine I'm not saying those are bad but I would encourage you to build into that daily read stories from the Bible when I say stories, you need to let your kids know these are true, this really happened I think it's important because we have a generation today, I believe Connie who don't know, because a lot of preachers only preach this feel good stuff today we have a generation who doesn't know who Jonah was, they don't know who Gideon was or Shamgar, the judges of the Bible, they don't know these great stories and I think they're important to the foundation because one, they're true and historically you can find archaeologists have found evidences that all these people existed and these things that we read about in the Bible happen, but it shows us a pattern of our God defending his people and great miracles and wonderful things happening and some people don't like to read the Bible or kids, we did I mentioned I use the King James again so I'm going to make everybody mad here, those that don't like the King James say it's too hard to understand, those who do like it think it's the only thing in the world to read, and I think both are off somewhat but the King James was not too hard for my little children to understand when my daughter was not even three years old yet, she had memorized the first two chapters of Jonah because that story before she went to bed, I don't know why that one stuck with her, she wanted to hear about Jonah every single night and she literally, just because I read it to her she couldn't read, but I read it to her over and over again, by the time she was three she had memorized the first two chapters of Jonah because if I missed a word, she corrected how do you feel about Bible stories? I mean, and I think it's important one had books with pictures, but for that particular time with Holman every night, it wasn't a story book, I made a point this story we're reading from the Bible so she would see us reading from God's word You know Chris, you were talking about teaching our kids through stories, I think it's really important to teach your children the way they learn, and just like we started the segment about knowing God the difference between knowing about versus having a relationship with, and so to kind of play off of what you were just saying I love like manipulatives and felts, and I have tactile learner children, so I would use felts to tell the story, and for those children, they could visually see these characters and these actions it could be even action figures and Barbie dolls, I know some of your listeners may not listen to Barbie dolls, but you know, whether it's a superhero movie or a C.S. Lewis book or whatever it is you can actually find and teach your children biblical truths within that because there are, there's the protagonist and the antagonist there's good and evil and you know, one of the things that we didn't really touch on is we are now at a point in American culture where only 16, we're 16.5 percent of the people don't even believe that there's good and evil, and when we think about our kids we have to realize that somebody's teaching your children spiritually, ideology they're teaching a philosophy, and I guess my main message Chris, is let it be you parents, the mom and dad and do it in everything show your kids that God is in all things, He's in math He's in writing, He's in nature He's because He is all things because He created all that there is That's powerful.
Well let's take a quick break Connie and then come back, I want to dig into that a little bit deeper. Folks, we're talking about teaching biblical truths to our children and them engaged in God's work Stick around, we'll be right back or connect with Diggs Design on social media In a world crowded with viewpoints and voices Critical condition after ASIM I believe the message of this financial problem Only one voice matters, God's At the College at Mid-America and Mid-America Seminary We equip leaders to think from a biblical world view online or on our Memphis campus Check out the College at Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary at mabts.edu and be equipped to light the way . Do you desire to build family relationships that stand the test of time? Does creating a Godly family seem like a daunting challenge?
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Visit citizensforamericafoundation.com today and secure your spot to join Chris Hughes in Washington, D.C. this June. Welcome back to the Christian Perspective with Chris Hughes and Connie Albers. We're talking today about how to keep your child engaged in God's Word when more than 70% of Americans don't read God's Word. 90% of pastors don't preach the entire Word of God. Kids are turning away from their faith in record numbers as they go to college and leave our homes.
What can we do to ground them and engage them in God's Word? Connie, right before the break you were talking about the importance of teaching biblical truths in all things in life. Supper was always an important time in our family. It was kind of a non-negotiable, we're going to eat unless somebody had an event or something they had to be at, we're going to eat supper together as family. We would try to purposely sometimes, Vicki, I would have a strategy at one point in their teenage years I went over to Connie and created a document. I know I'm overboard, not everybody needs to be like me, but I would make a calendar document of topics that I wanted to I realized I had limited time. We've had high school, they're going to college soon and maybe I didn't cover everything I needed to cover. So I made a list of topics that I was going to find a way to work and to supper every night when we were together.
So now they're going to hear this and they're going to know what the gigs up, we know what Dad was doing now. But it was to teach those biblical truths that you're talking about. So we would bring up a topic and whatever it might be, whether it's finances or maybe like a big movie right now that's out in theaters is Batman.
Maybe there's something from the Batman movie because my son is into superheroes or whatever. Try to find truths in life and then we would work in the Bible into those conversations. What does the Bible say about that? Let's go get the Bible. Today they don't, particularly my son, everything's on the phone.
So he just whips out his phone and he's looking it up on the Bible, on the phone. How did you and Tom teach biblical truths? I know you worked things in with your kids as well.
You said something I think is profound. You said you had a game plan. You basically said, hey I realize that the time is short. Again, I'm referring back to that but that's why I wrote Parenting Beyond the Rules. Parents, when their kids hit those teen years, all of a sudden they realize, I have 72 more weeks or I have 2 more years or I have 1 more year and oh my goodness there's so many things.
Character issues I needed to cover or things I needed to prepare them for and they're trying to cram it all in in 52 weeks or something. But you had a strategy, you had a plan. That's not a manipulative tactic, that's not a we're just going to try to persuade them. No, it's that we love them and we care about them and we want to have them be able to withstand the fiery darts that come their way by means of just living life. And so you having that, you know what, we need to talk about this tonight at dinner and I want to make sure the next 5 weeks we kind of hit on these topics and we work it in.
It's no different. That is exactly what God wants us to do. Disciples our children.
Not make reading the Bible an assignment. Ok, well we've got to do this. It's on the chore chart or it's on the to do list. No, a relationship isn't a to do. It's not like you say, ok, I haven't seen Vicki so I've got to write her on my list so I can make sure that I can call her today.
You said earlier, I want to talk to her. You know, you want to be with your children. The things that matter to us we naturally want to spend time with and as a parent, as we disciple our children, it's a natural blow of what's in our heart and what we're trying to impart to them because we are imparting our values, our faith, our beliefs and that's why we see the world and so many in society trying to marginalize, push aside, silence parents, shut down all these things because if the parents who are primary influence on their child's life, if they're silent, then our children are free game.
They'll go after them. They'll break down their thought process everything that we've instilled in our children. So discipleship is key, not an assignment. You're talking about developing a strategy. One thing I did, and again I'm going to get in trouble for this, in 2014 my daughter was getting ready to go to high school later that year. So this is where, we've talked about tech with you before, where Facebook came in handy. I got on Facebook and said, hey to my parent friends, so Connie this will be a book for you to write because I've toyed with writing it but I'm not disciplined like you and I don't get up at five in the morning to work on books.
I don't know if you've ever thought about this so you can steal this from me if you think it's worthwhile. I got on Facebook and I said, what are some things that you wish you had taught your kids before they launched and went away? So I had a lot of people give me that and that was part of that strategy and then I found ways to engage them in God's word as some things were as simple as how to change a tire, how to change oil, other things were how to handle finances. There were all these different things people gave me and again I think you would be great at writing a book on that because younger parents don't always know and so I knew again that time was limited but I tried to find a way to bring God's word in that. Can I go a little step further Connie with what you're talking about, the Bible. I believe that Bible memorization is extremely important and I don't think we do that with our kids enough today.
Encourage them to memorize God's word because there are times when God's word is always fresh, it's always new it's always revealing and it can guide us but there might be times in your life when you don't have God's word available anymore. So I'll share a story with you, I don't know if you have heard of a man named Bud Day. Bud Day was a personal friend of mine, he died a few years ago.
Bud Day was a pilot in World War II and he was in the Korean War he was in Vietnam and he was captured in Vietnam and for those of you that are listening you might be familiar just because he was famous with John McCain. John McCain was a United States senator, his father was an admiral and John McCain ran for president in 2012 and Senator McCain was roommates they both got captured in Vietnam and they were prisoners of war and John McCain really if you read his life story almost died and I've talked to well he's not alive anywhere, I've talked to Senator McCain on many occasions and he told me flat out that he would have died had it not been for the influence of Bud Day who was his roommate and Bud was a colonel at the time they were captured in Vietnam and was the commanding officer basically of their unit within that Hanoi Hilton I think is what it was called anyway to get back to my point when those men were captured Connie and some of them were not particularly religious men but at a time in their life when they had nothing else they sought the desire to turn back to God and we take the Bible for granted like I said you know many homes have maybe 10 or 15 Bibles laying around the house and we don't ever take the time to read them but those men wanted and longed for God at the worst time of their life as they were beaten and tortured and tormented and what they did is many of them had memorized maybe a verse or two here when they were a child and they put together on toilet tissue these men rode out and hid and like they dug holes like in the seams of the bricks or the concrete or the rock or whatever in the wall and basically they created, it wasn't the whole Bible I mean it really wasn't much because they that was something by Day told me he wished that he had memorized more verses because at the time when they needed so they all figured out a way to communicate and basically the toilet tissue created a prison Bible if you will that they shared with each other and I mean I don't know that historically here but what I'm just saying it's important for us to learn God's word and you know it helps your kids brains develop because they're memorizing something but what better to memorize than God's word there are verses on every aspect of life, on finances on wisdom and knowledge and understanding and marriage and relationships I mean everything Connie that we do in life if we were just getting out of God's word we would know that God addressed it because he knew what we were going to need and he provided it through the Bible for us to have it and I just think scripture memorization for kids and even at a very young age like I shared earlier Coleman at two years old was memorizing verses and we would find reward systems Connie you know maybe some people might frown on that there's a Christian camp Connie in Florida, Children's Bible Missions is an organization that has camps and they're still in operation today and when I was just a child in second and third grade in the first Bible that I was able to get of my own I memorized 50 Bible verses in the second grade of school in Ruskin, Florida and was able to earn my first Bible by memorizing Bible verses so I just think Bible memorization is an important way for our kids to get engaged in God's word. Yeah and it's important that we continue to memorize scripture. I mean I told you about the thought stories that when my children were very young I would have the ABC so I'd find a verse that started with A you know and a verse that began with B like be kind or C and I went through the whole alphabet obviously there was a couple letters that get a little tricky but then we would have the kids it would be hey we're going to share what we've learned and they would just go through the alphabet reciting the verses that they've learned it could be passages and then you know as your kids grow and change how you teach them his word make it copy work meaning write his word because you think about the more you can engage the senses of a child the more they hear that story of Jonah the more they hear the story of Moses the more they hear the story of how God healed a land or led a king when they are writing those verses down when they hear the story when they see it illustrated in a movie format or in coloring the more that you can engage the senses the more engrafted it becomes on their heart and that goes straight to your point where when we're ill when we're facing dire circumstances we'll sing those great hymns amazing grace how great thou art we'll go back to those verses that we learned as a child Chris because that's like deep in our core and God tells us to engraft his word on our heart and so that's absolutely correct and another one is to pray to teach your children to pray not just for the list of hey God give me this like he's a genie in the bottle you know give me give me give me but to pray and for us to pray with our children us to model what prayer looks like us to pray together as a family we've run out of time folks I hope you enjoy this wisdom from Connie that I enjoy every single Friday as we talk today about our child engaging in God's word check us out each and every day at the same time on this channel and share our podcast we've got to go for now we'll see you Monday morning God bless you have a great weekend let's go impact the culture for Jesus Thank you for listening The Christian Perspective with Chris Hughes learn more about impacting the culture for Jesus visit 24americafoundation.com
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