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What is the State of the Church in Culture Today?

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February 16, 2022 5:00 am

What is the State of the Church in Culture Today?

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February 16, 2022 5:00 am

In a culture of legalized abortion, transgender issues and the indoctrination of Critical Race Theory, Jonathan Jakubowski, the author of “Bellwether Blues, A Conservative Awakening of the Millennial Soul” joins Dr. Chris Hughes to talk about the Church and culture today.

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I'm Chris Hughes. Welcome to The Christian Perspective, where we look in God's Word in order to develop a Christian worldview and modern culture. If you read Newsmax, then you're going to know Jonathan Jacobowski. Jonathan has been a high-level football player. He's a columnist. He's an author. Jonathan is on the cutting edge of our culture, and he has a keen eye for what's happening, and I think he's like a modern-day Paul Revere. Jonathan has raised the alarm to let us know the dangers that we are facing in our nation and across the world today.

It's an honor to have him on the show. Jonathan, welcome to The Christian Perspective. Well, Chris, what a compliment.

I have never been compared to Paul Revere. I don't know what to do with that. You just made my day. Well, when I was looking at your articles and things you do, you really address the issues of what's going on in our culture and the world today, which is really the focus of our show, and you're telling people to wake up and see what's happening in our country, and, you know, Paul Revere is the most famous guy to do that, but I think you're right on his trail. Well, it truly is an honor. I look to folks like you, Chris, and your leadership throughout the years here in our nation, and those are the inspiring figures that allow us to move forward, and I think, as it's said, you got to stand on the shoulder of giants, so men like Paul Revere and his bravery and many others give us the inspiration to share the truth today.

Yeah, we do. We need people like that who will wake people up to the coming dangers, so we're going to talk about politics and football and all kinds of cool stuff today, but before we do, I really want to focus some time on a ministry that you have called Champions in Action, because you're doing a great work around the world, and so before we get into the fun stuff of politics, I want people to hear what you're doing and find out how they can help you. So what is Champions in Action? Well, yeah, I appreciate you asking that, especially in the heels of Giving Tuesday, where most ministries like ours are moving into kind of the final month of fundraising here to end the year. Champions was started because I was a missionary in Guatemala in high school, and then I came back to the States and played college football, but God placed a vision in my heart to reach out to kids without dads, basically, young girls and boys without fathers in the most dangerous, deepest, darkest places in Guatemala City called Red Zones.

Guatemala is in this place called the Northern Triangle. By the way, it makes me intimately acquainted with the immigration debate. I understand it from the stories of people that I've connected with on a personal level, but these children who have had their lives ravaged by violence, by poverty, by malnourishment, by fatherlessness, that was really the heart and soul of why Champions in Action was started. And the purpose of Champions is to connect these youth to life-changing mentors through soccer. And the Word of God, the Bible, is the foundation through which we communicate and coach and train not just soccer, as they call it on their football, but also life. And we've seen so many stories, thousands of stories, of children whose lives have been transformed by the gospel and who are living differently because of that transformation. So is it like a league that you have set up down there with different teams?

Yeah, it's pretty comprehensive. So it's now a six-year program where it's an academy. So we establish an academy in their home region. We identify our coaches from churches, and we train those coaches through a mentorship academy. So those coaches go through six months of training. And then most of our kids start with a camp. It's a premier elite camp that is five hours from the capital city. We take them out, we treat them like kings and queens on the best fields with food they've never had before, three meals a day to a place that they've never been before.

We actually see a body of water near the Caribbean, kind of in that Gulf of Mexico area. And they, for a week, play a whole lot of soccer. They're incredibly tired, but they hear a lot about the gospel of Christ and experience this transformation of perspective.

But upon the transformation of perspective, and for most of them, the acceptance of Christ in their lives, back home, nothing's changed. So that's where our mentors really step up, because they disciple these children who are turned back into their communities now with that soccer academy that's being established, where they practice a couple times a week, and then they enter into a soccer league that we create. In Guatemala, they don't have soccer leagues like we have here for our high schools and junior highs, right?

There, we created a soccer league that's premier. They get jerseys, uniforms on top pitches, top fields, with referees, with leagues, statistics, with advertisements, and promotions. And the only way, though, that they can play is there's a scripture verse theme that's etched into every one of the trainings that our mentors teach. And if the child does not share that scripture verse exactly verbatim as it's been taught to them, they can't play. It's a big incentive to get them on the field, let me tell you.

They make sure they memorize that verse. What a great ministry. I mean, I bet that's got to be, you know, one, for kids, it's a big deal, because they get these nice uniforms and get to play with professional equipment that their peers probably don't get, and to get this great training where, you know, they might be able to go on. Do you have any stories of kids who've maybe gone on in their college system, or I don't know if it's like our system here in America, but maybe went to the next level with the skills that you taught them? Hundreds of stories. There are a few kids that have moved on to kind of the elite professional soccer level from the years we've been doing this.

We started in 2010, and we just have countless stories of kids' lives who have been changed. But one story that I'll share to your listeners today is not somebody that succeeded in the professional level, but somebody I met at the very first camp. His name was Oskar. He was 15 years of age, and through his mentor, we learned that he had killed three bus drivers. He was a member of a gang, and that gang had a, as part of the red zone, they had a fee that they would charge these bus drivers, basically extortion, because there was no policing there. And at 15 years of age, Oskar was recruited three years prior to, he had lost his father to immigration. His father had left the home, so he was without a dad in his home. He was with his mom, and he had three younger siblings, and he was required now to put money on the table. The only option that he could see was to sell drugs for the gang. Well, that kind of just grew in responsibility, and the next thing you know, he's actually killing people to be a part of that gang.

We ended up at our soccer camp randomly, and I look at him, I'm like, as I learned this story, there's no way this kid could have killed three bus drivers. And it was amazing, because really at the camp, you can learn the innocence, that you can see the eternal value of the soul that God has for all of us. And the love that he received from that camp, the recognition of God's calling on his life, the acceptance of Christ into his life, transformed his perspective. So when you return, he left the gang, but in most gangs, you leave at the penalty of death. So we had to help him evacuate from that area, him and his family.

They were relocated, and he ended up becoming a worship minister at his church. So a pretty amazing story for Oskar's life. That's an incredible story.

Thank you for sharing that. You mentioned that you were a missionary, were your family's full-time missionaries down there, or did you just short-term trip? Yeah, it was a six-month missionary training school that I attended at the age of 18.

It was kind of like a gap year, if you would. So I was there for six months, and the school was, it was a smaller school, but it was meant to kind of train missionaries to live internationally for, in perpetuity, but I really sensed from that that I wasn't called to live in Guatemala. I really felt like God was going to raise up Guatemalans to minister to Guatemalans.

There was discipleship done in the local context. I really had a calling here in my country, in America and in my state, Ohio, to be engaged and invested. So that's why Champions in Action is fully focused on raising up local champions, and we have, you know, staff that are from Guatemala that run it and lead it and manage it. So do you speak Spanish? Yes, I learned how to speak Spanish. I said I left Guatemala with two things, one was this love for these children and the ability to speak Spanish.

So you can communicate with them when you go. I'm sorry to spend so much time on this, but I really have a heart for ministry, and I just love what you're doing here, and I want to share it with our listeners. So how can people support you, and then do you take teams? Like, do you take people, or is money the best way for people to help you out?

No need to apologize. This is a passion of my life. You can go to There they have, you know, we have all the information necessary for connecting, and we do have teams. COVID was tough. Guatemala was shut down like every other nation. The informal economy suffered more than the formal economy, so our ministry really turned into not only delivering kind of soccer instructions online, but also just the basic necessities of life. Seventy percent of our families of the kids that are in our program didn't have food, so we became kind of a food aid ministry, at least for a season. But now that we're getting back to normal function, we have reopened the ability to bring teams from all over the country, and we have, from coast to coast, we've had teams that have come and supported us at these soccer camps. And this summer, I think there are some openings for a couple of the camps that we have.

That is great. So, folks, it's And, Jonathan, you don't know this about me, but I have a ministry in the Philippines, and just like what you said, we use indigenous people.

It is so much more cost effective to use people who are already in the country, but they're also trusted more than Americans would be, you know, by using someone who speaks their language, looks like them, sounds like them, and that kind of thing. So, folks, I would really encourage you, go to and make a donation today, because every penny counts. You might say, well, I only have five or $10. You know what I tell people, at least in the Philippines, and it's probably the same way in Guatemala, if your family would just not go to McDonald's one day a month, the money you'd spend at McDonald's literally would feed a family for a month, probably in Guatemala. So I encourage you to please go to and make a donation today and help Jonathan's ministry out, because he's reaching young men for Jesus in a place where they really need to hear about him. You started this soccer ministry, which I think is funny, because you're a real football player, aren't you? Yeah, that's right. You know, I think God works in mysterious ways, and he chose to use a hard-headed football player who has very limited skills on the soccer field to start a soccer ministry. That's funny. So you play, tell us a little bit about your football career, because I think you played some for a famous coach.

I did, yeah. Coach Urban Meyer was the first, my first year coach in college. I played football at Bowling Green, a Mac school here in northwest Ohio. It is a Division I program, which was always my dream, was to play Division I college football, and it was the experience of my life, one of the hardest challenges.

I came on actually as a preferred walk-on. I didn't have a lot of game film because I had that time in Guatemala, but I ended up earning a scholarship and contributing and playing, and now, ironically, I've become the motivational speaker for the football team, so I speak to them before each game. I didn't realize he coached there, so that's interesting. He did, yeah. That was his first head coaching experience.

He was at Bowling Green two years before he went to Utah. Okay, neat. How about that? Well, you've got a great story. Let's continue, because you've done even more neat things.

Tell us about SmartSolve and what your role is there. I'm a volunteer in the capacity of Champions in Action and the other boards that I serve on. There has to be some way that I bring money to the table to feed my family. By the way, I'm married.

We have four kids. They are the love of my life as one scripture verse which motivates me every day. What profits that a man to gain the whole world but loses soul?

I got to make sure that I take care of my soul, which includes my wife and my kids. That means I got to have a way of earning incomes. I actually run a company called SmartSolve, as you know to Chris, and SmartSolve sells water-soluble paper-based materials. In an economy where more and more companies are driving for more sustainable packaging solutions, we're really meeting a niche. It's the right material, the right technology at the right time, and we're growing like gangbusters. In fact, it's hard to keep up with the demand. Are you actually the manufacturer or do you just distribute the product? Yeah, no, we do manufacturing, coding, printing, and converting. In the US?

In the US, yes. Good for you. Folks, we're talking about SmartSoft with Jonathan Jacobowski. Stick around.

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For a free transcript, call American Minute at 1-888-USA-WORD. Folks, welcome back to The Christian Perspective with Chris Hughes. My guest today, Jonathan Jacobowski. Tell us about SmartSoft.

Yeah, absolutely. It's been tremendous as we're growing. Obviously, we're hiring a workforce here to build out more and more job opportunities. You spend more time at work than anywhere else, so one of our goals within SmartSoft is to ensure that we infuse our employees with a recognition of their purpose and calling, and that work is not just work. Work can be ministry. Work can be a calling. We've got to make sure we redeem that time so we're not just slaving away Monday through Friday to get to the weekend.

What a terrible way to live life. Rather, let's find purpose in what we do every day. So we're trying to build a really special culture around that and have seen a lot of success so far with our small but very quickly growing team. I've got to come meet you. We have never met before. We were on a radio show together a few weeks ago that a mutual friend host, and you're just fascinating, Jonathan.

I'm enjoying getting to know you on air here. So you have a ministry life. You've got your business life with SmartSoft, and then somehow you find the time to write a book called Bellwether Blues, a conservative awakening of the millennial soul. What inspired you to write the book and then tell us a little bit about it?

Yeah, Bellwether Blues came as a surprise. I would never have thought of myself as an author. If this guy ever writes a book, then anybody can write a book. I probably would have agreed with him in that sentiment, but I found out a really interesting fact about where I live. I'm the executive chairman of the Wood County Republican Party, and I found out that our county is a swing county. So that means it's voted with the president and the presidential election at that time in 2018.

So all the way back to Jimmy Carter, Wood County was accurate, and really, as Wood County votes, so votes the state of Ohio. So I said, well, there's something fascinating about that, and one thing that really intrigues me is my generation. I'm a millennial. I'm on the older side of the millennial generation, but what makes millennials vote, and is there any hope that's left for conservatives of winning millennials towards, as I say, a conservative awakening of the millennial soul? So those factors led to the authoring Bellwether Blues, and it's been quite a journey.

Wow. So in your book, you talk about millennials, and you say that millennials are leaving the left. Is that true? Yes, it is, especially as you look at mainland America. So moving away from the coast, when you get into mainland America, there's a lot of millennials who have seen the left's lurch away from things like the First Amendment, things like basic tenets of religious freedom. When you see the left's embrace of radical, far-reaching policies, even kind of the COVID measures that occurred over the last year, a lot of millennials started to sense a distaste for that, and millennials, they're aging, right?

25 to 40 now, so starting to pay taxes, have jobs, have kids. The natural evolution of how we view the world that surrounds us, especially when we have children, changes the way we perceive politics. So there's two things that are happening, and because of that left lurch, and look at, for example, Joe Biden's approval ratings. A lot of millennials are not satisfied with his job performance.

A lot of millennials in the Virginia gubernatorial election voted towards the right because of what they were seeing with kind of the radical messaging of the left. Boy, that was a wake-up call, wasn't it? Oh, my word, yeah, it was. It was a welcome one, too.

It couldn't have come a moment sooner. I think we're going to see a lot of that in the year to come because of Americans' frustrations with largely how the left has governed our nation. We're so idealistic when we're in college, but when you start having children and a family, and you got to put food on the table, then some of those things that we thought in college were great are not so great anymore when it's your pocketbook that's being affected and you have to put food on the table for your own family. But when we're looking at this group of millennials, how can Christians and conservatives embrace them, not only to bring them into, say, the Republican Party, but also into God's house and into the family of God? Well, I'm toying with this for my next column as I think about how to, what the chasm is that separates us. We're very much on the sides because of how far politics has moved away from what looked like kind of center governing, if you would, 40, 50 years ago.

Today we now see this polarization where there are extremes on either side, and if you go further upstream, as the old saying goes, politics flows downstream of culture. If you go further upstream, what it is that actually divides us, I think, is a difference that we notice in the Declaration of Dependence. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.

What are the self-evident truths and where do they come from? In this age and era, there's an attack specifically on the left to say that, no, God does not give rights. There's no sovereign, there's no providential deliverer of those rights. Those rights are really defined by man, which is similar to what France would have viewed in 1789, whereas on the side of conservatives or those who traditionally view the founding era, they would understand that, yes, there is a creator who is above government, and that creator does give us rights, and government's role is to secure those rights. First comes rights, then comes government, and I think that fundamental switch is critical because it really impacts how we look at the political scene of today, and as I talk to conservatives about how you speak to millennials, one of the things you can point to is a guy like Thomas Paine. Even if the millennial is an atheist or doesn't believe in God or is agnostic, even Thomas Paine believed that that central idea to the Declaration of Dependence, that first comes rights, then comes government, which comes from the idea of God giving those rights, he believed that that was the best possible form of government in an age where there was so much destruction and totalitarian chaos and anarchy, he believed that that was the right solution, and I think amongst our millennial friends, the best way we can do that is by communicating directly with them and helping them understand that if we have a government that is formed around the majority, then might's going to make right, and that's going to destroy the liberties and freedoms that we've experienced.

However, if they can agree with us that, no, right makes might because God gives rights, it changes the fundamental way in which we view elections, so it comes down to relationship and kind of communicating those basic central truths. So is there a website where they can find your book and buy it directly from you or do they need to go to Amazon? Sure, they can go to Amazon, but also we have a website,, where they can, listeners can check out more information on the book itself with some videos of the seven stories of millennials who I interview in the book and tell their stories about why, what led them to go from voting for Hillary or siding with the left and then voting for Donald Trump. I should say Obama to Trump. Boy, I sure hope that the leaders of the conservative movement will read your book and pay attention because that is a group that we really need to go after, and like you said, I think they are changing and there's an opportunity for us to win them over and also to lead them to Jesus.

So we've got a few minutes left. I want to hit a couple of issues real quickly. You mentioned earlier open borders. What is your opinion of open borders? It's going to be a problem in our country.

What can we do about it? Yes, and actually in my Newsmax red pill note there with the blog, I wrote a column that says the title of the article was open borders destroy families. I think we have to make more holistic arguments on the border situation. We know the devastation and chaos that open borders has caused our nation.

A nation with no borders is no nation at all. We understand that. We recognize that.

We recognize that. We see the issues that follow it, but a lot of people don't know how open borders destroy families from the point of origin, and I've worked with personally through our ministry. We worked with countless individuals, children who do not have fathers because they've emigrated out of the home. We work with families that have sent their daughters on these perilous journeys where an estimated 80 percent of those girls are raped or sexually abused on that perilous journey from the Northern Triangle through the border of the United States where this process, all that it does is it empowers those that are involved in human trafficking and the trafficking of ours and the trafficking of drugs.

These transnational organizations of crime only grow and increase, so I think understanding it from a more holistic viewpoint helps us thread the needle to, I think, gain a broader majority, a coalition of folks to join us in saying let's secure this border for the good of those that we're concerned about in Central America and the Northern Triangle, but also for the good of our nation. Jonathan, I don't know if you've written a column about this or not, but you mentioned human trafficking. It is such a huge issue, and for a Democrat party and a Biden administration that claims that they want to protect women and children by having these open borders, it's just the cartels have really turned this. I don't know that drugs is as big a business now as human trafficking is for them. It's a huge problem, and we are perpetuating it in the United States by allowing open borders and these not just girls, but young boys, too, are being brought into our nation and then sold around the world as sex slaves. Oh, it's terrible. The day Joe Biden took office was the day the human traffickers, because they found their golden ticket.

It's an incredible profit-making industry, and it's incredibly damaging to the dignity and sanctity of human life. Yeah, and I just, I mean, I don't understand anything about this administration. He wants to shut down the border with countries that might have COVID or might not have COVID, but you've got the southern border of the United States wide open, and they don't even test people for COVID. If he's so concerned about it, I don't know why you're letting hundreds of thousands of people come across our southern border and then secretly shipping them across the country into cities all over the country, and people don't even know that these immigrants are coming into their communities with COVID and all kinds of other things going on. Yeah, it definitely is abridging the rule of law, and it's very hypocritical when you look at the exact examples that Chris, you just provided.

It's very unfortunate. It's damaging to our nation, but as you get deeper into the argument, the reason why the Democrats have really flipped on what used to be an embrace of secure borders. I mean, think of Cesar Chavez. He would actually go after and persecute these immigrants that would come across, and he's a leftist hero, but that was the labor movement of the 70s and 80s.

Now Democrats see a meal ticket if you would. They see an opportunity to get illegal immigrants to become voters and in the process embrace them into states where they're going to change laws, which I think we just saw in New York. They're now allowing them to vote, and they give them the access to citizenship, a green card, and resources, and an exchange to demand and vote. I think that's the primary motivating factor in why these policies are the way that they are. You know, another big issue, and I know you've written about this, is critical race theory. What is your opinion of critical race theory?

Do you think it's hurting our country? Well, I was on a journey to learn about it. I honestly didn't know much about it before I traveled to Minneapolis, Minnesota, ground zero, about two months after George Floyd was killed, and the whole process of meeting all the various interest groups that were involved in that led me on a journey to really study deep into critical race theory. So as I studied it and came to understand it, what I found it to be was a sinister theory that has the power to really, like a train, it's the engine because a lot of people of goodwill throughout America who oppose racism, we can't stand it. It's a wretched mark on our history. It's something that we stand against and oppose. They're using that goodwill and compassion to get that through the door, and then they bring along with it all sorts of other things like transgender theory. All of these other implications and motivations that basically surrender our kindergartners to not only have to be told that they're racist on the basis of immutable characteristics, but also they need to embrace all these radical gender ideologies.

So I saw it for what it was very early on. Folks, we're talking about critical race theory. We've got to take a commercial break. You want to stick around? We're going to talk a little bit more about critical race theory and then jump into the LGBTQ and pronoun agenda that's taking place in our country right now. Stick around. We'll be right back. History was made on today's date.

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This is Chris Hughes. My guest today is Jonathan Jacobowski and we are talking about a lot of issues in the country right now, really how this is a critical time in our nation and how God has called us as Christians to become educated and informed and engaged voters in our country and learn about the issues and what the Bible says about issues so we can discuss them with our friends and hopefully impact the culture by doing so. So we just talked about abortion, now we're going to jump into a real hot topic around the country right now and that's an issue called critical race theory. A lot of politicians say there's no such thing as critical race theory but we all know that it's real and it was a huge issue in the recent gubernatorial race in Virginia and I think as we enter into the 2022 election cycle, you're going to see this become a bigger issue as critical race theory and other items are discussed in school systems, as parents are being told that they should not be involved in the school system and as the federal government under the direction of the Biden administration are investigating people and trying to tell parents that they cannot get engaged in this process. So Jonathan, if you don't mind, explain a little bit to our listeners what critical race theory is and what's happening across the country. Yeah and I think before I do, let me just suggest a few resources for understanding it. I got deep into it after 2020. I visited ground zero in Minneapolis where George Floyd was killed on that sidewalk and that led me on this journey to really understand what the appropriate responses were to that cultural moment and hearing what culture was saying and it really helped give me a pretty solid foundation and understanding comprehension of what critical race theory, which really is derived from critical theory, where it came from and what it looks like. So the first resource I'd recommend is Chris Rufo. He's done young men's work over the past two years to expose the dangers and evils of seeing critical race theory played out and taught in institutions all across the country, especially institutions of education at the lower level, K-12 and then institutions of government. Another person that I looked to, there's a few books that are coming out, but one that I read that really helped me understand the framing of this cultural moment is The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl Truman.

He's a professor from Grove City and what Truman does that was really helpful is he takes us all the way back 400 years. As we know, the sexual revolution didn't cause the sexual revolution. The French Revolution didn't cause the French Revolution. The moment in which we were in didn't cause it.

It was caused by something else. Usually there's antecedents and historical patterns and processes of thought that lead to where we are today. So he went back to poets like Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Shelley and went through these French poets who took this idea of process of thought that used to be, and this is getting a little deep here, Chris, so I'm going to try to really parcel this out. So the way they think about it, if you were to talk to a 16th century farmer and you were to ask them, you asked the farmer, hey, do you find purpose in your work? Is your work meaningful? They would probably look at you with crossed eyes because they would say, of course, I'm putting food on the table.

That's all that matters. In that era of life, they had what Truman calls a mimesis perspective, a perspective that was outside in. The institutions of society, the church, the local institutions of commerce, the family, my neighbors, my community, all of these institutions exist to help me understand what my purpose is. So it's an outside in life and your life was very much dependent upon whether or not those things were made or broken.

For example, the weather. If the weather controlled by God, that made a farmer recognize that his life was really in the hands of God. Well, fast forward now to the 21st century and the question that I just asked is something that makes sense to all of us. Do you find purpose in your work? Is your work meaningful?

And it's not that that question is a bad thing nor that that answer is a bad thing. It just simply reflects a major shift that you can see as a part of the way the poets built this structure and that perspective is called a palesis perspective. It's an inside out perspective. So when you define reality from the inside out, I now use the institutions to express what I believe in.

So mimesis palesis, mimesis outside in, palesis inside out. You go back to Shelley, you go back to Jean-Jacques Rousseau, you go back to these poets in France and in Europe, and it leads to this train of thinking that my purpose in life is being suppressed by the institutions that surround me, that these institutions, the sexual mores, the church, the government, all of these institutions are preventing me from being who I am called to be. In fact, Rousseau says in his book, man is free, but in chains everywhere. So this idea that we're born free, but all the institutions are the problem.

They're preventing me from being the freest that I want to be. So you move it then into the 1930s and 40s and you see the rise of Nazi Germany and the counter response to that, it was appropriate. We today critique the Nazi rise for the evil that it was, but the way that the especially people of a communist mindset critique that was through the lens of critical theory.

It was developed ironically in Germany. It was this theory that the only way to appropriately live life and define human flourishing is to destroy the institutions, to use harsh critiques, to tear down those institutions. And the primary institutions that prevent human beings from prospering and succeeding is namely going to be found in the church because it controls theology and in the institutions of government where you have the wrong thinkers in place. These thinkers and philosophers are representing the wrong version of what it is. It very much is a destructive philosophy enforced deconstructing society to accomplish the aims. So critical theory and the basis of that at the Frankfurt School in Germany was what was used by many of the proponents and early thinkers of critical race theory. You have critical gender theory, you have a critical economic theory, you have critical race theory. In the 1970s you started to see institutions like Harvard and other schools, UCLA, and leading thinkers begin to raise up ideas of how they could see critical race theory being used as a framework to destroy and overthrow existing systems of power by using its own version of critique to society. So critical race theory was largely kept inside of these institutions of higher learning until 2020. While there was movement and momentum, the 1619 Project is a great example of how critical race theory is played out. It's criticizing the founding of America, arguing that the institutions built upon that are all fundamentally flawed and need to be overthrown.

It's a revolutionary style of thought. Well, they brought that and used the moment of 2020 to ramrod that into the K-12 institutions, right as we were moving to homeschooling. So when you're at home in school and you're listening to your son being told that he has white privilege and he's a six-year-old kid, he has white privilege, he lives in a nation that's fundamental and inherently and cannot, irredeemably racist, that really makes some parents take a step back and question whether or not their kids should be in that school.

So that was, I think, the effects that led to this explosion of conversations that I think is actually, at the end of it, a positive result. There's no better sanitizer than that of light and transparency, and I think that was available last year, finding things happening in our K-12 institutions that are pretty dangerous and diverse. It's pretty scary right now with what's going on, particularly in the school system. Kids are being accepted into colleges based on their skin color.

We worked so hard for the Civil War to the 1960s to do away with looking at people based on skin color, and I think I read somewhere just recently that in some areas the federal government is directing people as they go get COVID shots, directing medical institutions to prioritize people based on skin color, whether or not they get a booster shot or to get the vaccination. Critical race theory seems to have entered every aspect of our lives. It uses this framework of intersectionality, and intersectionality, which is a part of it, Kimberle Crenshaw, who is one of the leading proponents of it, I think is the founder or the originator of this idea of intersectionality, and basically you get points the more oppressed that you are. So if you're a minority, you get points. If you're non-binary and your identification of your gender, you get points. If your sexuality is different from anybody that's straight, you get points.

The more points you get, the more influence and more of a voice you deserve, whereas those that are opposite of that framework, think white, male, Protestant, straight, married, those individuals are lower on the rung and don't have points, and the role of those that don't have points is essentially to repent and confess of the sin of white privilege. Vadie Balcom's book, which I read kind of midway through last year, I'm trying to think of the book, the title escapes me. Fault Lines. Yeah, Fault Lines. It's a great book.

Thank you. Yeah, Fault Lines. He does an outstanding job explaining how even this process of intersectionality is entered into the church, and critical race theory uses that framework to, especially around race, to make arguments that if you're not a minority, then your role is really to give power to destroy the institutions that exist in society that enable racism. As recently as a few months ago, the Secretary of Transportation Buttigieg was arguing that our roads are racist. So they'll find racism anywhere, and then using that argument, they seek to deconstruct society without a real clear vision for how you reconstruct society, other than probably a totalitarian, communistic approach to might making right. Jonathan, the scary thing about this is how it's entered the church, and a lot of churches have bought into critical race theory, and it's a separate religion. It violates the word of God. It basically says there's no redemption for you if you're white or you're in some of these other categories that you're mentioning, but that's not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that the redemption comes through the saving grace of Jesus Christ, and we as a church cannot fall for critical race theory. It's a terrible problem that is really, I think, starting to take over a lot of churches and denominations, and it's really crept into seminaries. I'm a Southern Baptist, and our seminaries, even though a lot of the students are not Southern Baptists, we train more, probably more pastors in our seminaries than any other denomination around the world, and critical race theory has now entered into our seminaries too, and it's producing a whole generation of pastors who are not preaching the true word of God. Well, you know, one of the things that opened my eyes and one of the first resources I read comes from Ratio Christi, which is an apologetics organization, and they had a document on critical race theory, and this was way back in July of 2020, kind of early in as I was doing my research, and one of the things they said that really stood out to me is that if you accept the presuppositions of critical theory, Jesus himself was a sinner.

Why? Well, he was a male in a patriarchal system of power, so your sin is on the basis of your identity. Immediately, we know that any claim that Christ himself was a sinner, that is anti-truth.

It is the opposite of truth, and it is to be exposed and removed immediately from any institution that seeks to explain and declare the truth, especially the church. Yeah. Folks, we're talking about critical race theory. We've got to take a commercial break. You want to stick around. We're going to talk a little bit more about critical race theory.

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Know the truth about the creation of the United States of America, about the faith of the founding fathers and how Christian principles were used to establish this form of government. Visit today and secure your spot to join Chris Hughes in Washington, D.C. this June. Welcome back to The Christian Perspective with Chris Hughes. My guest today is Jonathan Jacobowski, and if you want to learn more about him, you need to buckle up. We're going to give you his website at the end and tell you how you can get his book. He is just a great resource of information. We've been talking about critical race theory, and Jonathan was sharing some resources where Christians can learn more about critical race theory and try to understand why it is not a biblical theory and why it goes against the word of God. And one book that I'll tell you that he mentioned earlier that you should read, every one of you should read, Fault Lines by Vody Bockham. It's a great book. He is a black man who tells you why critical race theory is wrong, so I recommend that book. Jonathan, can you repeat some of the resources you mentioned earlier for people to learn more?

Sure. The other was a racial Christi, R-A-T-I-O, and then C-H-R-I-S-T-I. That organization creates briefs on various questions that Christians need to consider as they seem to deliver an apologetic of the faith. And the other one is the book that I recommended, which I think will segue nicely even into our conversation on the LGBTQ. The rise of it is The Rise and Triumph for the Modern Self by Carl Truman. The Rise and Triumph for the Modern Self.

I have not read that, but I'm going to get it today. Folks, critical race theory has been a big topic in the news over the last year, and as I mentioned earlier, in the Virginia governor's race, and you're going to hear more about it going into the midterm elections of 2022, and we need to understand critical race theory. We need to understand what's being taught to our children, because that's really how they're doing. I mean, we hear it on the news where it's slipping into the churches and the seminaries, but really it's a whole curriculum that has been introduced into the school system. COVID came out and kids were sent home, kids were learning online for the first time, and parents for the first time ever were seeing what our children are being taught in public schools. It was a real wake-up call, and there were even cases of where teachers were telling their students not to let their parents hear or see what was being discussed in class, because they didn't want parents to know.

So, as parents heard about these things, they got involved and they began to go to school board meetings, and as they went to school board meetings, school boards across the country were refusing to let parents speak, and it became really a national issue. Jonathan, where do you think we go from here with CRT in public schools? I think we need to get behind the school choice movement.

The one resource that I did also reference was Chris Rufo. Chris, he is an incredible resource for information as to what's happening in our country and on this topic specifically. As a result of these school board battles, I think there's been a shift at the greatest shift that we've seen in the last 30 years of any issue, but particularly towards school choice. Over 70 percent of Americans accept the idea that the parents should decide where their kid can go to school and are open to the idea of government funding being free. So, the parent decides where that child's going to go and that government funding goes with it, private, public, you name it. So, the school choice movement that has now been accelerated as a result of the events of 2021, and we saw it crystallized in the debate between McAuliffe, the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia, and Youngkin, the Republican candidate for governor, when McAuliffe said that parents do not have a right to have a voice in their children's education. He made that statement and Youngkin's response, which I thought was brilliant, and ultimately became the basis of this campaign, is no, parents need to be fundamentally involved. They need to be in charge of the instruction and lead in the process of their children's education. That debate really represents, I think, what we see across the country as more states are advocating and advancing educational freedom, school choice, educational freedom legislation in many states.

And I interviewed in one of my Newsmax columns, one of the major proponents and one of the most leading experts on the subject matter, Cory DeAngelis. You can check out his data, but the data is irrefutable in terms of what school choice has done in states that have had it for 20 years like Florida and Arizona. I think that what we need to do is there are going to be places where maybe some parents want their kids to be called racist. Maybe they want things like the framework of critical theory and critical race theory and these things to be taught. Well, they can do so, they're free to do so, as long as I don't have to send my kid to that school. If I have a choice to send my kid to another school where those principles aren't going to be taught, rather the principles of the Declaration of Independence will be taught, then I think it creates, it diffuses a bit of what we're seeing with tremendous pardoning of lines and of giving parents the right to decide, funding their kids, funding students, not funding systems. And that's why elections are so important, Jonathan. And as I travel around the country and speak at conferences, I tell people, I believe one of the most important elected positions is the local school board. We get all excited about president and all these more glamorized positions, but the local school board is one where we can have a great impact.

There's a ballot drop-off as many more people vote for president than they do for local, local issues and local positions. And really if two or three churches in your community got together, you could control and take over the school board this election year, if you work together. And if you did that, we've been talking about critical race theory, but that's not the only thing that is entered into our public schools. And Jonathan, I don't know if you've written about this or if you've heard about it, but there's another curriculum called the common sexuality education curriculum. Have you heard of that?

No, I have not. Okay. I want to encourage you. Okay. So this can be your next article for Newsmax.

You can say you got it from the Christian perspective. The Biden administration right now has allotted $120 million to develop a curriculum called the common sexuality education curriculum. And folks, you need to Google this.

There's a huge amount of information out there. So not only we're seeing racism issue, but we're also hearing a lot about gender today, the LGBTQ use of pronouns and children as young as five years old in public schools are being asked to identify what their gender is. Look, they're five years old. They don't even really know what a gender is. And there's a brainwashing that is starting to take place in our school systems.

And this is in partnership. This curriculum development is actually in partnership with planned parenthood. They're helping develop these curriculum and they send these books. If you, I would challenge you parents to go to your school library, your public school library, and look through and see what books they have on sexual education.

And you will be shocked with the graphic pictures that are being taught and shown to first and second graders across the country. Are you starting to see in your research, Jonathan, why do you think this push for gender is growing in our country right now? Pronoun changes, that kind of things.

I think it goes back to kind of the comment earlier about the poesies versus the Macy's perspective. There's, there's been a major philosophical shift and when you can yourself become a demigod, you can define your own reality. It allows you to take things that are immutable, such as your gender and change it to whatever you would like. Sexual revolution unleashed within our nation forces that are tremendously powerful. And these forces, I mean, even less than 20 years ago, you would not see a conversation such as the one we're having where people would believe if I say I'm a male living in a female's body or a female living in a male's body and people would be laughed out of the room, it would, it would be a sign of psychological illness. Well, in the last 20 years, what we've seen is, is an effort that has led to over 22 States adopting sexual orientation and gender identity laws, SOGI laws. And Biden on day one of his presidency, he signed an executive order to combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation. And I say this, you know, as a Christian, our responsibility as Christ committed us is to love others and to love them as he's loved us and to show his true love.

Love is, is not only the embrace of a person and the elevation of who they are and the sight of God and the dignity and worth as a human being, regardless of what they claim to be or live, but it's also the delivery of truth. It's refusing to allow someone to live by a lie. And I think that that's one of the ways that we have to go about the current movement that like a Trojan horse, you've seen this issue specifically being used tied to critical race theory. The idea being that many parents will probably be willing to confess their sin of racism. Um, what's much more easily to be called a racist and to respond in a very passive position to get down on one knee and to accept that. And then if they can do that, then the idea is as well, then we can get to the point where we can force you to allow us to have transvestites reading books to kindergartners, which is happening in places throughout the country.

Yeah. They call it the drag school drag queen story hour, and it's really, uh, normalizing sexual deviancy to young children at the youngest ages. And a lot of parents are clueless that it's happening in their own school system.

These men usually dress up as women, a transvestite drag queens. They, they, they dress up in pretty dresses and look like princesses and they go to the, and they have story time and it's being allowed in the public school system. And they read books that are generally, uh, pushing their agenda that also correspond with how they're dressing and acting to try to normalize this sexual deviant behavior to young children. So the next generation are going to think it's normal and there's not anything wrong with it. It's a very dangerous and sinister ideology that is not only destroying the minds of children at such a young age, such a formidable age, but it's destroying the very lives of the people who are advocating for them. The group that has one of the highest rates of suicide, maybe it's the highest, but it's people that have had a sex change surgery rates of suicide or as high as 40%. And when you go back to books like Ryan Anderson's When Harry Met Sally, and now he's banned by big tech simply for declaring the truth back to kind of the foundation of our nation's on fire, right?

When you look at the reality of the statistics and data on this, this ideology is incredibly dangerous and it destroys people's lives. We have to find a way to advocate and defend truth, but especially at the ages of children that are in schools hearing these things, they're, they're so formidable. I went back to Plato and Plato's Republic. He's talking about Socrates and Socrates makes the point of education for children really being about forming their, their character, the moral character perspective through fables and through stories like, you know, now we wouldn't use like Narnia, but struggling with the teaching of some of the Greek gods, because those gods did things that were evil. And he was worried about that level of evil demonstration changing or negatively affecting the character development. I think in the same way, when you introduce these kinds of topics to children at these ages, you have the ability to damage them for a long time. Well, we're going to have to have you back to talk about this, Jonathan. So folks, if you're listening, check out Google common sexuality education curriculum. You're going to be shocked with what you see. Jonathan, before we leave, can you tell people where they can find your book?

If you have a website where they can learn more about you and follow your writing and what you're doing and where you're traveling around the country. My book Bellwether Blues out. You can find it on Amazon, but it's also at And there's a little more information as it relates to my story. Or you can go to Newsmax, where I have a column that's called the red pill column. You'll see all the articles that I wrote last year on a variety of subjects, including the ones that we talked about today. Not yet sure where my travels lead me.

I have four young children all under the age of 11. And I back to kind of discerning the times we're really seeking in our lives what God's assignment is for us. There's thousands of opportunities that come at us every single day.

We want to choose the assignments because when we step into an assignment from God, it's going to have the blessing and favor and anointing of God, which allows things to happen that we can't control. Well, thank you, Jonathan, for being with us. And folks, thank you for listening today. I'm Chris Hughes.

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