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December 3, 2021 10:18 am
This week, the Supreme Court heard a landmark case on abortion. On today’s show, Chris Hughes is joined by Ryan Helfenbein of Liberty University’s Standing for Freedom Center and they break down all the issues to let you know the future of abortion in America and make predictions on the future of the Roe v. Wade precedence.
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If you listen to news all this week you noted earlier this week. Most important abortion case in 40 years was before the Supreme Court.
Earlier this week. Oral arguments were presented in the case of Dobbs versus Jackson women tell which is in Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi. Basically what was being heard was whether or not a Mississippi law that banned abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy was constitutional days cast was on the ground in DC this week, a month ago I had the privilege of having breakfast with Ryan Hill combine at the conservative Baptist network breakfast at the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist convention in Nashville. Ryan and I crossed paths a lot of events over the last year so we don't really give a talk that much because were both speakers at the same conference and are so much so you get to talk to Ryan, Sue, Mike and Jill got there, but that one up. I got to minutes and learn more about them even exciting guy Ryan Hill combine the executive director of the standing for freedom center based at liberty University of Virginia did not know Ryan is team are really in my opinion there like the Navy SEALs are the special forces in the battle to impact the culture for Jesus. They do great work to inform and influence the culture for Jesus. They have a super media team. They produce great videos.
You need to go to the website which I share with you the address for that several times a day they produce great videos that white papers may have articles every one of you should be going to their site every day and reading and learning more about what's going on. The culture standing for freedom center is an out painting resource for any Christian. But what I love about Ryan loves the Bible he loves Jesus and he defends American liberty. Ryan and his team are at the forefront of what was happening in the Supreme Court this week and I invited here today to share with you what happened and what we can expect in the coming months. In the battle to defend the lives of unborn babies in the United States of America really around the world. Ryan welcome to the Christian perspective a credit thank you so much.
What kind introduction really appreciate you and all that you're dealing got a country going today when I say that I don't just mean we have to put on a cake and go save it were not the heroes in the story right in and got fully at the lead out front. Thank you so much for having me. God be with you. I'm just so exciting that we can try to get together for quite a while to get out here but you're busy with with your own organization to run and then you're also on the staff of liberty and in your producing videos. You have your own show so you you're a busy fella, but before we jump into the Dobbs case because I really want our listeners to know who you are and who your organization is and what you guys are doing because you're such a great resource for every Christian out there. Can you talk a little bit about your background and the work that we do standing for freedom center yeah wallowing to start with my my testimony I came to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. When I was seven years old.
That's when my much faith started and I was I was a kid growing up.
Actually in Dallas that is born Amarillo parents moved they were they were and yet the right at a college move a few Dallas and I grew up there in the Dallas suburbs, went to school at first Baptist. It is in Dallas.
This is back in the good old days, your listeners might remember someone by the name of W a Criswell and allegedly he is a little absolutely and I just ate all were conservative, the Godfather, in many ways is that of the other bad convention and that he was there and at first I doubt I went to the cold air but I went to church at Preston Wood Baptist Church at Graham was my pastor growing and and in and in many respects my spiritual father and he I got to hear the gospel preaching there and at the age you know my friend Gary Fraser who goes to church there. I don't know I'm I know who Gary is, but I don't know Gary like that yeah you him because he's written many many books about end time prophecy and the really adding in the culture war to let it mean to interrupt you there yet another great great church me and just enough rent for the listeners who try to understand that the it's amazing how many people are in the Dallas area week in a grown-up. But you know Mary Kay Ash went to Preston Wood and big Bigler and I mean just so many big names and in the Christian world world of business and entrepreneurship, but I came under conviction that early age. You know I wasn't always walking with the Lord all say that at the age about 13, you know, I really felt a strong call to serve the Lord in an and full-time vocational ministry and at that point I did know what that look like I thought definitely wanted to be a pastor and I went to the University of Texas at Austin logically why he go to Bible college. I knew I needed to get it and making degree of some sort and so I was an economics major. I was interning at Hyde Park Baptist Church at Bowman and that he's the attic.
I guess he's currently that president of the Southern Baptists of Texas.
I believe that's right but at least the pastors conference. But anyway, you know. And then after that seminary rolled in seven seminary and you move the lid to Louisville Kentucky so that you, the pathway I took and while in seminary opportunity came along to work in state local politics, and that was kind of a weird thing for me because I didn't. I was never involved in that in college, I followed very closely worked without molar note on his radio show that plaintiff failed to show them just for the he took on the briefing just as it kind of a research and interning traveled around him co-taught school with him for number of years and carried the briefcase, so to speak, but I opportunity came along to get involved in federal eight elections and I know I jump into that and I was a jack of all trades while in all feed my family and all of that, got married, by the way a while in seminary had kids while in seminary and and that we were just moving along and I was just in over my head and I was doing three and four different things run in a small business working on a PhD and and then getting involved in the in the a congressional action and election and then gubernatorial election and then before I knew what I'm working for the governor Kentucky and so that my introduction into some of this and so when I came to liberty University about three years ago with the opportunity to start something like this. The scanning for freedom center is really at the intersect of the church and the public square something that is the tradition of doctrine. Follow in urine ever since the beginning of this this great institution that is liberty is always, it was always about great commission and being a public witness in the public square for the gospel of Jesus Christ to the church that will look sleeves and get involved settle yard. That's what we do and you to put out some great resources how to people go to standing for freedom.com standing for freedom.com website. You can go on there and put out articles got a dollar geopolitics.
That is going to be coming out here pretty soon.
I'm really guided about the introduction that we we work closely with organizations like family research Council, begotten friends over at Heritage got friends over at Hillsdale and so we've worked hand-in-hand at times. With these other organizations would put the stuff together. What were really trying to do is reach down to a younger generation because were at liberty University were intersecting course with the youngest generation to generation was born after 9/11 that shocking when you think about that.
Born after 9/11 event that want to mentally change this country forever so we're engaged with how their thinking, how they are influenced by the culture and by social media, social media, something we've got to in brain can't push it off. Many organizations are doing that you route will be school the right way were on Instagram were on Facebook or on twitter, but were also launching on tick-tock and were looking to branch out as well on these other platforms in order to gauge the younger generation will you are busy will you really are blessed to be on the University that really gets it. You know they they understand so many universities today. It really helped out what the liberty and is such a blessing, that there allow you to operate on the camp that is right.
People ask me all the time. Chris wears liberty University on these issues. What we are, where they stand on these issues was a will look no further than the freedom Center is there other components you can see on campus with convocation school, divinity, and elsewhere. You can see that but that the fact that they allow the freedom Center to operate here on campus signals where we stand on matters of of of faith and politics and so that's really really important to see if it's also very very important to develop a robust Christian worldview and apologetic this show is brought to you by generous jokes. The coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back causes you care about.
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I think about the Christian manifesto everybody to read that that he was all about engaging politics from a Christian worldview. So something we want to do at the freedom Center course is to ensure that when we take the approach of fighting this cultural battle. Yet we cannot demurrer we can't be shy we can be bashful. We have to get out there and be happy warrior committed can fictionally to the word of God. But we gotta get out there and fight with enthusiasm you know with optimism and in and following that tradition, but anyway we exist here. Liberty University on the campus to do exactly that, helping him students to encourage pastors on the outside and not be shy well of what you said it would gotta do it with enthusiasm because too many Christians just gonna want to fold up the tent and go home and think it's all over when it's not. Which leads into the issue. We really want to talk about today. This week for any of the listeners that don't know there was a huge chase, probably the biggest case dealing with abortion since Roe V Wade of the 1970s heard before the Supreme Court this week and Ryan, you and your team on the ground in DC and at the court were oral arguments were presented on the slammer right life case details, what led up to this week's case and what happened in Mississippi to get yeah so just real real fast out a law that was passed in Mississippi with the gestational age and essentially you know it was defining 15 weeks, you know a child that it appointed development where pretty much everything is there, including paid fully developed heart pumping 26 quarts of blood per day.
Only four nodes lit eyelid eyebrows.
Hey, make facial rations yon pickup wallow Dr. thumb into the child I was eight. Anybody I don't care. You don't have to have a religious worldview to understand and follow the sign fear. You cannot argue it and the the gestational act was passed just a couple years ago. It is, it is meant that has Jackson woman health organization that filed this is the plaintiff, and in order to try and overturn that and so here here's the court with a conservative majority even even with Justice Roberts to Canada new Kennedy. It is a clear majority had come before the court. Now to be argued, and the Atty. Gen. of Mississippi and Fitch and of course that the the solicitor Gen. of Mississippi I were both there to argue that case on Wednesday opening argument so course, anybody who is listening and thinking okay decision made no absolutely not until probably June or July about many of the justices of already signaled kind of their intention. Even on Wednesday.
You can hear that in some of those arguments, but we were there on the staff along with many many other organizations by our liberty University was representing. You know, I would say more so than any other organization we had over 1021 buses we came out there where in our liberty. Red white blue went there to pray, this was not a protest for us.
This was a prayer rally and I made sure all of our students were well informed about what professional counter protesters look like and to stay away from them. We didn't want to get any kind of altercations were protecting our students. The man they were safe.
It was it was that had a great time. It was a great learning experience. But we offered up a lot of prayers and also pray there was some worship being done in the spontaneous, which I enjoyed seeing that I was I could not be more proud of those units concerned women for America students for life of many other organizations where their live-action unknown to forget some Abby Johnson. She's a fellow with the understanding freedom Center. She also is the founder of in and then there were none. She spoke any man's, and many others.
It was a great.
It was a great day for those who don't know Abby was actually think she was a manager, wasn't she of of Planned Parenthood facility a high up in their structure, and through the process of being forced to watch an abortion realize it was wrong and now she is one of the nation's leading advocate for the pro-life movement in your bladder hampers where your fellows right well yeah I get really funny thing is, all the states she wanted Cecil Richards award.
She sat down with Hillary Clinton.
This is, she was one of the leading executive directors about of the Planned Parenthood clinic right outside College Station and so yeah just incredible testimony and story will what a tremendous opportunity for those students who really are leaders. See how important it is to be engaged in a process like this because I think that God is going to hold the church accountable for what is happened with your nearly 65 million babies who been brutally murdered through abortions 70s is time for the church to stand up and start attending these lives so Ryan, you told us who was arguing the case on the side of of Mississippi who was so who argue the other side was the federal government yeah so you have the WCB US solicitor Gen. for a liquor who was giving argument in defense of Roe versus Wade and and just understand Roe versus Wade set up a viability standard and a trimester standard that honestly doesn't jibe with with science. Now, at the time. There was a lot that we did not know about child development. Of course we conventionally, happily, scientifically, not just on the basis of our faith.
It is not. This is not exceed and unicorns and make-believe fairytale.
We are, our faith is well reasoned Kristin.
We we know that human development begins at the exact moment of conception already you have human development and a baby is is is as a heartbeat as early as five weeks is already starting to move that muscle in the circulatory system in a brain and that spinal cord beginning to develop that the US solicitor Gen. was trying to still argue the old standards that were set up way back in 1973 with Roe versus Wade. Before we even had any of these things, you know, an ultra ultrasound technology and all the rats to see what was really happening and is all based on viability and sorry to fight news.
One of the things that the left loves to invoke or you think about the Dred Scott case of Plessy versus Ferguson enemies. Others you know that had to be overturned by the court. They want to argue for precedent except for when they want precedent to be overturned over Excel is a great example of that overturning the Defense of marriage act so this is a business I case that we are winning and you know everything what you can see from Justice Alito to you know Justice Cavanaugh. Obviously, Clarence Thomas, who was there. One of the justices and Planned Parenthood versus Casey David of the dissenting view was not of the majority view, but at the dissenting view is very clear where these justices are standing but what what could very likely happen is that when this is upheld if this thing is upheld, and we proclaim that it is it will then go back to the state and when that happened you know Juergen have states like California apelike New York State like Oregon, Washington state, and others will have some very advanced or progressive abortion bills that they're going to bring forth and you have states like Louisiana and Texas, Florida and Arkansas in Tennessee and all estate, you have some very conservative bills that come forth and might even make them themselves a safe haven where you know little to no abortion can take place in those states and so you know I I'm hoping that that that happened a bit overturned Roe versus Wade.
It will go back to the state and it will put the burden than on the state legislatures in order to figure that out to anyway yeah this is just so important not just to our nation are, but around the world because people don't realize that not only your tax dollars being used to fund abortions in roundabout ways and sometimes in direct ways over the years of the United States, but we particularly under the Obama administration is when it started a president from putting into it and then present wide and brought it back but a lot of our citizens don't realize it. Your abortions all over the world that our federal government is funding because we subsidize Planned Parenthood, Planned Parenthood is all over the country and and this is a topic for another show or something that can either count one, yeah. So our first ever row light. Date with Mike Pompeo and he was the one who in the under in the trump administration.
They peeled back the Mexico City policy in that that had to do with funding. Abortion around the world and to our State Department, even in Republican administrations, even in the George W. Bush administration was funding for reproductive health as they call it around the world and reproductive health course was was Planned Parenthood abortion know that that's what our government was involved in with our tax dollars. So it is been very eye-opening, even for a guy like me growing up was very supportive of George W. Bush, which is to recognize that Republicans have often offered lips service to the pro-life issue into being committed, but there was.
They haven't really been read and up until recently, and that's it's been amazing to watch right and even when they play the game or we would say okay were not federal funds to to pay for abortions on estate. We were still doing around the world. But most Americans never had a clue that their money was being used to do that so we really got to put a stop to that. Not not just here but around the world. There's there's a curriculum I was sort of say this will be were really a topic for another show called the common sexuality education curriculum started by Pres. Obama given president of trumpet and into it and a president of Biden has funded it with $110 million. Same thing as a curriculum pushed in public schools United States of America but also around the world and is portable washing that were there. Try to get kids to identify the gender or tell them you hear there are some places Ryan were people kids can have abortions or get birth control is school and their parents are never even notified sure federal government is funding this basically is a supply and demand, creating a demand because were encouraging kids basically go out have free sex and when they get pregnant and Planned Parenthood to make the money of the abortions is just pure evil. What is happening in our country and around the world today.
Yeah I'll add to that that part of the things that were not covered about Afghanistan. Obviously, withdrawal was just terrible, is horrific. What was happening on the ground there, but prior to that art are nationbuilding effort and in you largely by the State Department and during the Obama administration was exporting that kind of garbage and I wasn't just literacy program for young girls.
It was this kind of education that comes out of UC Berkeley and everywhere else you know we we were forcing that kind of education on a largely Muslim population, and of course they don't like that so that's a whole other. That's a whole other ball of wax.
That's the kind of thing the State Department has been doing for decades is crazy. Ryan, our time is running out. We got so much more we could talk about want to have you come back sometime I just want to thank you for what you doing standing for freedom Center.
I know you're on the forefront of this. Won't no one answer till June, but thank you for what you're doing and thank you for being here today. Hey Chris, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you and God bless thank you for joining us today on Chris uses this is tribal like a podcast so you got a radio show here with your friends on social media was to change the culture Christian perspective more about impacting culture for Jesus Christian perspective US this show is brought to you by generous Joe's coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back causes you care about. Order your copy today at shop generous Joe's.org and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget the coffee you love or causes you care about. This is good Truth Network