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Here is the founder and chairman of the citizen for America foundation, Dr. Chris welcomed the Christian perspective, overlooking God's word in order to develop a biblical worldview and modern culture.
I'm Chris she's in our guest today is one of my heroes.
He didn't even know it but I've watched him from afar and he's at a great impact on my life.
This man has a passion for leading people to Jesus, like few others in the Z that know me know that I believe one of our primary responsibilities as Christians is to tell other people about Jesus and Dave Kistler lives that out every single day of his life. He boldly proclaims the gospel of Jesus Christ. He's never ashamed of the gospel and he is a man who loves our nation and has a ministry to Congressional leaders on Capitol Hill.
Dr. Dave Kistler serves on the board of the American pastors network.
He is a stinky still the chairman of the North Carolina pastors network and he served as a cohost for the stand in the gap national radio program, Dr. Dave Kistler, thank you so much for joining us today on the Christian perspective and that was a very gracious introduction, but the honor is mine to be with you just say this I watch what you've been doing for the call to Christ and for the sake of our nation. Your trajectory is amazing and he is just my delight to be on the program with you today was thank you Dave. You know were rooted critical time in our nation and a lot of Christians have been silent for too long and were about to lose the right to worship. If we don't do something soon and I know your on the forefront of forefront of that value of that battle. So you have a ministry have a couple ministries your your umbrella ministry is called Hope ministries international tell us a little bit about that and then lead into what you're doing in DC will be delighted to critical international is an organization that we parted many many years ago I got been in evangelism for about 36 years. Hope ministries international is for. That being the title of our ministry command somewhere around 1999 and immediately after naming our ministry or renaming our ministry that I had a passion is citywide crusade to cross United States of America, one of the places the Lord it broke my heart to do a likely thing was in Washington DC and in 2002 we have the opportunity to do that for the first time.
God bless you richly, we set up a massive pinup that we we own a run on the national mall, which is that two-mile stretch real estate from the capital building 1 mile down to the Washington Monument and let you do that's amazing what will Chris they did. It was during the George W. Bush years, and the chief of the Park service that, the committed believer and little did we know we would not just do that one time we would do it.
A total of three times, and as a result of one of those three crusades on the national mall week I met a lady who worked in the Pentagon chaplain's office. We were invited into the Pentagon get a crusade to exit 2 of them they are in the Pentagon courtyard which is the 5 acre tract of land right in the middle of the Pentagon and through all of that war began burning my heart to have an ongoing 24 hour a day seven days a week ministry to members of Congress. And that's where hope today.
Ill which is the DC component of our ministry came into play and we now have two staff members on Capitol Hill for time and I am I am not one of those who still out traveling, preaching, and I'm there is much as I can be. But our son is our direction Capitol Hill and in about five years ago we brought on Dr. George roller for 16 years headed up.
Dr. D. James Kennedy's ministry on the healing is now working without, and it's just been an amazing amazing time wearing red and dark date doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out but I figure this is so dark very little light shone brightly and were trying to let light of the gospel shine bright as it possibly can on Capitol Hill and got done some really amazing things with this incredible and I just want to tell you as a dad.
I'm excited to hear what your sons doing my son is in college right now and I just pray and you love the Lord and he's been a lot of mission trips with me, but what an honor to have your son follow your footsteps and and be in ministry and I pray that my son will use his gift for Jesus. One day as well. Your office, your ear, not just like some ministry declined to be in DC if I remember correctly, I'll actually have an office and have like office overlooks The capital building is at right we do we have an office located on Capitol Hill for a number of years. It was located right literally across the street from the United States Supreme Court from the backside of the United in court on first Street. We needed more space, so we relocated just a little bit further away. Not a lot further away just a little bit further way to accommodate staff Bible studies that we do with staffers and so on. But yes we have an office on the hill from which our teamwork we have ministry Vancouver we stopped by on our Bible study days pickup staffers that they come out of their respective office building very quickly get them over to our office served them lunch and then do a Bible study and then drive them back to their offices we have as much time as possible in the word of God is been an amazing thing got got it.
I never drink with me on a 16-year-old when I surrendered to go into the ministry really wanting to go into a legal profession.
My dad was a pastor and I'd seen everything ministry had offered good and bad thing other devil will maximize the bad minimize the good. So what I did was I listened to some of the lies of the devil and try to avoid anything to do with ministry, but at 16 years of age.
As a result of an athletic injury, the Lord arrested my attention.
I surrendered going to the ministry and never never dreamed Chris in my wildest imagination would have any kind of impact on Capitol Hill, but over the last two decades that ministry is grown into what it is today and it is wonderful. It's wonderful privilege, but it's also a tremendous responsibility.
What will Dave do you actually have access to the members of Congress and Sen. are you is your ministry mainly to staffers and what are you doing up there. We actually have direct influence on members of Congress. In fact, for years we've gone in and visited with members of Congress, the American public probably is not aware of this but you can go into the congressional office buildings have to go to airport style security. Once you're in the building you can walk the corridors of either the house buildings of the Senate office building which we have done we just go into the offices sometimes unscheduled. Most of the time we try to schedule appointments with the members themselves. We sit down we pray with them, converse with them. Try to encourage those that know the Lord assure the gospel with those that don't know the Lord and then from time to time.
Some things will happen that God brings about something the negative things that God uses to facilitate more direct impact in their lives in one of those things was the congressional shooting at the baseball field several years ago because our son is only helpful time within 20 minutes of that shooting. He was in the office of Steve Lisi within the office of Roger Williams who was the coach of the baseball team and other members of Congress and the calls he was.
They are present, praying with the members of the staff while the Congressmen were down at the hospital. Those members of Congress have never forgotten that and we have friends many many friends. Just as a result of that tragedy of the calls of being present. There's a ministry of presence on Capitol Hill that is irreplaceable, it takes it takes some time to develop the trust or cultivate the trust of the members of Congress. But once you have it you never betray it there your friends for life, and you have an open door, not just into their office into their heart. What a powerful testimony of how God did use that tragedy to expand your ministry. Have you seen you since the events on January 6.
Has it been more difficult for you or do you still have access great question Chris.
It has been more difficult. In fact I was there on January 6 and witnessed everything got got put in Facebook jail for 30 days.describe the truth of what happened and try to correct some of the lots were told. But what happened as a result of that, he of course the fence went up around the capital that is now down but what Speaker Pelosi is attempting to do right now is require. If you're going to come into the building. You have to have a scheduled appointment with a specific member and then once you come into the building you you state where you're going to go to which office with the one that that you have a meeting with they will verify that allow you to go to that office and then once you're done with that meeting. What Ms. Pelosi is trying to do is require you to exit the building at that time will if we if that becomes a reality which we don't believe it will Republican members of Congress members of the freedom caucus are really pushing back against that. But if that were to become a reality but alter significantly and create a lot more need for creativity on our part could to get in and to minister every three months. Chris we take a team of people and we visit literally every member of Congress, all 535 offices. It's like knocking on the door of everybody in your community, your pastor every three months and we typically take something with us of some gospel message. It may be in DVD format. For example, we've given the late the entire first season of the chosen which is that wonderful DVD series. A lot of Christ were getting ready to give the next four episodes of season two to every member of Congress. We typically take something with us to present to them, but we literally will walk about 18 miles over three days visiting every single member of Congress and going into their office and having time with them. That would be somewhat in jeopardy if Mrs. plus he gets what she wants. Again, I don't going to get that because that's the people house okay that the White House, the capital, the People's location. We have a right to get in there and visit with our members of Congress and I don't think she's going to get that accomplished. Though she certainly trying. Will Dave do you have volunteers that come help you is somebody was interested that is that something anyone can volunteer to come work with you or or is it just a select group that you take on those meetings. Again, Chris. Great question. We we have a team of people.
Of course that have helped us in the past is made up of pastors Lehman but the bottom line is it anyone that has an interest in going and being a part of this may be just as in the server.
There are more than welcome to come and do that. We do have a limit of people that we try not to, you know, have more than maybe 12 people, 15 people walking down the halls and making those visits. But if somebody wants to come and be a part of that. There certainly more than welcome to do so and will offer this several times but how do people find user website where they can go look for what you do today. They sure can. Chris ministries online online.com hope ministries online.com is our one website and then hope to Bayhill.com is the ministry to deal specifically with Capitol Hill or folks can just one Facebook and type my name in Dave Kessler and Kessler spelled KI SP LER and my Facebook page of Canada turned it into a little bit of up a news page. Try to keep people informed as to what's going on on the hill and communicating the truth. A lot of things I can't talk about what I cannot do so either. Hope ministries online.com hope to the hill.com or just look me up on Facebook yet highly recommend for those either on Facebook, which is probably most of you listening Dave's page is a great page to follow. He has insights that most of us would never have, and because they do have a presence. They are there each and every day.
So if you want to know the truth of something when you're watching it on the news and you even Fox news you can't trust sometimes. But David's days people are there. He's there many times in his Facebook page is just a great resource to find out what's going on in our nation so you mentioned how you visit the Congressmen and you have a Bible study for staffers which I get 22nd you have any type of Bible study for Congressmen or just when you set the appointments, one on one. This show is brought to you by generous Joe's coffee company with the Christian perspective, this is the answer that Christians and conservatives have been looking for a coffee company that gives back causes you care about. Order your copy today at shop generous Joe's.and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget you love or causes you care about most of the communication is done.
101. Now there are from time to time, Bible studies, it will conduct with members of Congress and I have to be careful you're not to say too much because of some of this is not anybody's ashamed or afraid. But there are people that listen follow you a lot of what I do and probably what you do. Chris that will try to take a what's said and use it against a member of Congress or try to in some way prohibit or limit what were doing, but the answer to your question is yes there are Bible studies are conducted early in the mornings with members of Congress, but primarily what we do is one on one visiting in the offices in Chris. I will tell you this I have had well-known members of Congress, one of them if I called his name everybody listening today would know who I'm referring to, but he asked me did he say preacher me ask you question. He said I had somebody lie about me. You have done my best to put it another member of the of our government.
That's a lot about me, and I try to make it right with them and he said, for whatever reason, I just not been able to make that happen.
He said forgiveness to occur. Do I want just that they need to come to me and asked for my forgiveness, or do I forgive them for things they said about me that are inaccurate and that gave me an opportunity. Chris to go into the gospel of Luke where Jesus and you will the CrossFit father forgive them for they know not what they do. I talked about forgiveness and that member of Congress looked at me and said wow preacher of never thought about it like that and we had an amazing opportunity to pray together and provide further direction. That member of Congress in Chris that happens all the time.
The stories are myriad of what God is done in a course the Indians never got a report on this Fox news is never to talk about it. The fact matter is, God is alive and well IT is such an important ministry for what you're doing, because when you have meetings like that and you have a chance your praying with some of the most powerful men and women in the world in and when you can take the power the Holy Spirit with you more to those halls you're making a difference not just in our nation but in really, what happens globally.
The reason I'd asked about the about the bowel studies with Congressmen while back we had former Congressman Steve Stockman on I don't know if you'd ever met him in your travels. He was actually arrested when he would murmur the IRS under the Obama administration was going after a lot of ministries and and Carson Stockman targeted Lois Lerner and some of the shenanigans were going on in the present trumpet take him to be an ambassador in the Middle East and he was actually in the airport.
Get ready to go for meeting of the Middle East when they arrested him and present trumpet commuted his sentence right before present trumpet left office, but he told me that they used to have a Bible study, a guessers, a room right behind worth when you're watching the state of the union where the speaker sets the Bible's room up there were few of them would gather and he did share names either.
But if you then we gather for Bible studies. I think it's so important what you're doing with staffers out years ago I was a lobbyist and and I learned you know, sometimes the best way to have access to the member is to become friends with the staff members of their team and so you know you're having bowel studies with the staff members in Congress is you lead them to Jesus. They're going to then take that biblical worldview into that congressional office with them, and Holy Spirit is with them and is to make a change.
Even if they're working for a person who is not saved.
Chris your hundred percent correct in what a lot of folks don't understand is what you just stated and that is really the powerbrokers on Capitol Hill are not just the members of Congress that we see on the news the powerbrokers of the staffers. They are the ones that craft legislation that is loaded on. They are the ones that read the legislation. Some of these pieces of legislation are in excess of 2500 pages, which is of course ridiculous, but the fact the matter is, members of Congress, many of them do not have the time to read through those things that are staffers read through it for them and then they report to the member of Congress so if you want to impact Capitol Hill you have to do it with those that are really the powerbrokers and that the young people and I'm talking about these young people that are in their early to mid 20s, most of them and other making decisions under sharp they are incredibly legit young people but yet that that's the key is to target them and that's one of the reasons Chris I have my fun if he would be willing to pay had up our ministry on Capitol Hill. He's 31 now, but when he darted he was about 25, 2040 full-time and that about at the upper range of most of the staffers but Nathan thanked the Lord God to be good got given in favor not just with the staffers, but with members of Congress.
He is a singer. His wife is Amber Nealon of the Kneeland while the two of them together. All right, dynamite duo thing recently for for the memorial service that members of Congress attended it in large numbers of a lady who is wife of the former North Carolina Congressman earning was Ruth Mizell.
Resident was Wilmer Mizell.
He was up when a World Series is a picture but then when in the politics will shield an icon on Capitol Hill.
Godly lady and she loved Nathan and she asked him to sing three songs at her memorial service conducted on Capitol Hill so there's all kinds of open doors got given and I wonder I want your listeners. Chris understand this when we see so much negative and there's plenty of negative to go around. I'm not minimizing the darkness, but the thing about it is if God has always had its people, and here's a light in the midst of the darkness and if somebody thinks that Capitol Hill is a God abandoned city are wrong about that God is alive and well on Capitol Hill. Yes, the darkness is encroaching, but he has his people strategically placed and were just honored and privileged to be part of the of God's calling it the strategic time to be an influence with the light with the gospel in these days so important what you're doing Dave to and just I'm just thankful that God is open this door for you and gave you a burden to do this because we do need that light on Capitol Hill and you didn't ask for this, but if I want to embarrass you here, but I know that this ministry has to cost a lot of money. You have offices in DC staff members you're providing meals and in Bible study materials and and DVDs to members of Congress and their staff. If someone is listening today and they say you know what this is a ministry that is making a difference in our nation and I want to support them. How would they make a financial contribution to your ministry will Chris you are incredibly gracious to ask that I thank you for that. But the answer to your question is yes it does cost a lot eat wheat.
One of the blessings of mission Capitol Hill. Chris is that we go and we never ask for anything we go to give never take yet and that's true with every aspect of our ministry, but it does cost and somebody would be interested in contributing to help they could Doug go to our hope that he'll page and they can donate they are directly.
It's an online PayPal type format or if they wanted to send a check they could do so I just mailing it to hope ministries international, PO Box 447, Connolly Springs. That's two words seal in NELLY Connolly Springs, NC 28612. What we need, really. We do need to go the financial support. What we really write that more than anything. You are the prayers of God's people that God's power and that this tremendous open door that he's getting it continues on your website.
Hope to the Hill.com is her place where people can sign up to join his prayer partners and receive updates and prayer request. There is a place near and I'll be honest with you Chris. I haven't been at the site myself and in a few weeks and so I know my son manages that it is change some of that's why I can't give specifics. But if you just go to hope for the Hill.com navigate your way through their you can communicate with us and certainly if someone wants to receive email updates or any type of the updates of that nature we would be more than delighted. Will Dave if you if you will send me that that PO Box I'll be sure to put that on the show knows where people can find it on the website will have a couple minutes but have one more quick question. I think in the past. If I remember correctly you have done tours to DC. Do you still do that and if someone is interested, how would they find out about that.
I sure do. I have our ministry is taking people whether it's groups of pastors or groups of concerned citizens, the largest group we ever taken his 200 small group of taken is five and if someone is interested in getting a Christian perspective both of the founding of the country.
Even the layout of Washington DC that reflects the imprint of our Savior and our founders understanding of the word of God. I would be delighted, delighted to take them and let them see that it's typically a Tuesday Wednesday in a part of a Thursday, but if someone wants to know more about that they could contact me my Facebook page by just me a personal message.
That's really the best way to do that or they could contact email@example.com Facebook page as well. Thank thank you, Dave that's so important to me is so many people in our schools really teach true American history and people don't realize the influence that God's word had on the founding of this nation and that many of our founders were Christians of folks if you want to learn about the true heritage Christian heritage of this nation. I encourage you to go to. Hope to the Hill.com and find out how you can go to DC and have one of these tours, Dave. I've got have you back. You, your incredible her so much. We didn't get to touch on but I want you to know that we can be praying for your ministry here. We thank you for what you're doing for God and Capitol Hill and again folks as hope to the Hill.com thank you for being with us today. My delight what you're doing now more than ever we sure will focus. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Chris Hughes and this is the Christian perspective please subscribe like a podcast and please share with your friends on social media Ellis go change the culture Christian perspective more about impacting the culture for Jesus is a Christian perspective .us.
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