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Did the House Just Vote To Ban the Bible?

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Did the House GOP just try to pass a new ban on reading the Bible on campus? It sounds insane, but it's true. Charlie responds to a new "antisemitism" bill that enormously overreacts to the wave of anti-Israel protest on campus.

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Register now at slash peoples. There are so many problems in the country right now, and we've been covering the campus protest and I got an alert on my phone where somebody said, hey, the house is about to pass H.R. 60-90. So we track a lot of these things that are happening. I said, what is H.R.

60-90? I said, didn't we just we just send a bunch of money to Ukraine? We decided the Fourth Amendment doesn't matter. Speaker Johnson came down and said, Fourth Amendment doesn't matter so I can spy on American citizens. So they got rid of the Fourth Amendment at the U.S. Constitution.

The border is completely wide open. We are adding a trillion dollars to our deficit and our debt every 100 days. So I said, what is H.R. 60-90? We may be going to get some bipartisan support for deportations, asylum claims.

Are we going to fix and balance the budget? H.R. 60-90, which came out of nowhere, pushed forward by Mike Johnson and Jim Jordan, who's a friend of the show, but he's got to explain himself here. Jim Jordan's got to explain himself. I like Jim a lot.

It is a nice sounding bill. And before we proceed, let me make sure that we are perfectly clear. Hatred of Jews and hatred of any group is not tolerable in decent society. I do not put up with Jew hatred and I have an 11-year career to prove that.

I do not put up when somebody says, oh, the Jews are to blame. Nonsense. I think it's rubbish. I think it's evil. And I think it's wrong. Under the First Amendment and our tradition of free speech, you're allowed to have pretty awful opinions. Absent you invoking specific violence against an individual or a group, you're allowed to say some things that are reprehensible. You're allowed to say some things that are reprehensible. You're allowed to make a fool of yourself. We will challenge those things.

We will get into a debate with you on those things. That is the tradition of free speech in this country. So this is a nice sounding bill. And I want to just state again, anti-Semitism has no place in decent society. But the solution to speech you don't like is not to use the bureaucracy or the administrative state to go silence your critics and then to create a censorship Leviathan that could be used against people that are actually your allies. H.R.

1690. This is the number one news story in the country right now. To provide for the consideration of a definition of anti-Semitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of federal anti-discrimination laws concerning education programs or activities and for other purposes. The bill is being called the anti-Semitism bill or the anti-anti-Semitism bill.

To provide for the consideration of a definition of anti-Semitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of federal anti-discrimination laws concerning education programs or activities and other purposes. So the left is tearing itself apart on these campuses. They are destroying their coalition.

And who comes to go bail them out? Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson and leadership in the Republican Party waltz on down to put forward this bill, which again it sounds nice. Who could be against such a bill?

Let's dive into it. About 90 percent of House Republicans just voted to pass H.R. 1690. The so-called anti-Semitism Awareness Act in response to all of the anti-Israel and Jew hatred protests on American college campuses. If the point of H.R. 1690 was to defund the diversity equity inclusion apparatus that have normalized anti-white, anti-Asian, anti-Jewish discrimination at colleges, that'd be great.

But it does the opposite. What they just did, what 90 percent of Republicans just did, is they strengthened DEI. This gives a new mandate to the federal government and their massive apparatus to justify investigating and suing people for supposedly violating vague civil rights laws. It's a step towards imposing unconstitutional European-style hate speech laws onto America.

So what is actually in this bill? It finally, because there's some abstractions here, what do you mean by anti-Semitism? It formally provides a definition of anti-Semitism. But this definition doesn't simply include formally discriminating against Jews, which is already illegal and will not be tolerated.

No, no, it goes further than that. It doesn't even say calling for violence against Jews. Instead, it adopts a new definition created by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, which I'm sure is a great organization. But why they are pushing this and what they are putting forward is a little strange to me.

The so-called working definition of anti-Semitism is very long and it includes a bunch of examples. Guess what? We've actually read this bill. How many lawmakers actually read this before they voted on it? I have a very busy afternoon.

You know what I'm going to be doing? I'm going to be calling any lawmaker that will take my call that are always asking to come on our show and saying, did you guys actually read this bill? Did you read the bill that you guys just passed or did you read the title of the bill? So some examples are clear cut that I agree with. They're anti-Semitic and they should be illegal. For example, if you call or aid justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of radical ideology, that should be illegal. I agree. If you are calling for the extermination of a people group, no question.

But then it gets very shaky. Other examples might be very immoral, such as accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel or the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide than the interests of their own nations. Hold on a second. That's now illegal to say on campus?

Yes. You are no longer allowed to say based on this bill, if it becomes law, that Jews might have more loyalty to Israel than to America. Okay, I don't think I would ever make that argument, but that is absolutely constitutionally protected speech. Or this one quote, quote, claiming that the existence of the state of Israel is a racist endeavor.

Okay, I'm on the other side of that. I argue that it's not a racist endeavor, but thoughtful people have come to a different conclusion on that. I think they're totally wrong, but they should be allowed to say that. So now if a professor on a campus writes an article that says that Israel is a racist endeavor, we're going to say that's illegal? Or this one, drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Again, I think it's silly to do that, but now it's illegal? All of these might be dumb arguments to make, but if you define this as anti-Semitism under federal civil rights law, you're basically making it illegal for Americans to criticize a foreign government.

Oh, but it gets even worse than that. I have here the most important book in my life, and I hope the book in your life, the Holy Bible, the Word of God, the Holy Scriptures. 66 books, one author. And you dive deeper into the law, soon to be Bill of Law, it says that if you claim that the Jews killed Jesus, that is a part of anti-Semitism. Now obviously I, and all authentic modern Christians, do not blame Jews for the death of Christ, but the text of the Bible in John 8, in the first letter of 1 Thessalonians, there are mentions that very well could be now illegal under federal law. Did Mike Johnson, a stated Christian, and did 90% of Republicans in the House of Representatives just pass a bill wanting it to become law that could make it illegal to do a Bible study on a college campus?

I'm going to read to you from the Holy Bible, then I'm going to read to you from the law, or the bill, and you decide, because I think they might have, I think they might have passed a bill that would make the studying and the teaching of God's Word illegal on American college campuses. All right, I need to tell you guys about Strong Sell. It's amazing. With nearly a million units bought by you, it is more clear than ever that Strong Sell is not going to be legal. More clear than ever that Strong Sell works. It works to combat fatigue, brain fog, joint pain, skin issues, and constant sickness.

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It's only five pages. H.R. 6090 includes in the contemporary definition. Definitions for purposes the act of antisemitism means the definition of antisemitism adopted by May 26, 2016 by the IHRA.

So then you go and you refer to that. And part of the definition, according to the International Holocaust Remembrance Association, which I'm sure does incredibly important work, may we never forget the horror that happened in the 20th century, is claims of Jews killing Jesus. Now, just from a theological perspective, it's very important to understand that just flippantly saying the Jews killed Jesus, that's not even theologically correct. There were Jews that were involved and crowds that were supportive, but it was an execution act by the Roman government, the Roman polity.

It was Pilate's final decision. However, it now says that it is illegal, verboten on campus to do such things, quote, using symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism. Example, claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel. Imagine if you are a student at the University of Florida and you run a Bible study and this bill becomes law, which says, again, quote, using the symbols and images associated with the classic antisemitism, for example, claims of Jews killing Jesus, and you decide to run a Bible study with 10 of your friends, and you say, quote, First Thessalonians 2 14. For you brothers became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out and displease God and oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved. So, as always, to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come to us at last.

According to the text of this law, it is illegal to read that passage now on a college campus if it becomes law. Or how about John 8? The later portion of John 8 says very clearly, but you have not known him. I know him.

If I were like you, I do not know him. I would be a liar like you, but I do not know him and I keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day and he was glad. Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am. Says previously, you are of your father the devil and your will is to do your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his character, for he is a liar and a father of lies.

But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? Is that he's talking at he says here to a group of Abraham's children, which could be considered to be Jews, at the end it says that the Jews picked up stones to stone him at the end of the chapter. At the end of the chapter it says that. Let's go into the book of Acts, if we will, written by Luke the physician. Acts is part two of the book of Luke.

Little known fact is that Luke actually wrote most of the New Testament, not Paul. Acts 3 14 through 15. You disowned the holy and righteous ones and asked that a murderer be released to you. You, he's talking to the Jews. You killed the author of life, but God raised them from the dead.

We are witnesses of this. Acts 4 10. Then know this, and you and all people of Israel. It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, but whom God raised from the dead.

This man stands before you healed. Now none of these passages are quote-unquote anti-Semitic. They must be taken in context, and the Bible is explicit about blessing Israel, blessing the Jews, of which I live out every single day. But this bill that Republicans voted for, that 90% of Republicans voted for, explicitly says that it is anti-Semitic and now should be illegal if you say that Jews killed Jesus, of which it says in 1 Thessalonians twice in the book of Acts and has, let's just say, could be interpreted as questionable dialogue in the book of John. Did they read this bill? Did Mike Johnson and did the leaders of the House Republican Conference read this bill? And I'm going to go through the list of some of the people that voted for this thing. I don't believe that many of them intended to make passages from the Bible illegal, but explain to me where I'm wrong. I read to you the text of the bill. Example, saying that the Jews killed Jesus, I just gave you four passages in the Bible that say that. Therefore, did they just make the Holy Scriptures illegal on campus?

So I want to break this down through multiple ways. I think we thoroughly, I should say, covered how this very well might outlaw parts of the Bible and saying it, not just on campus, by the way. This bill, if it becomes law, gives the Department of Justice and the civil rights Leviathan new weaponry to go after the faithful. How naive, stupid, or complicit Republicans are for passing this, giving more and more power to the Diversity Equity Inclusion Office.

For example, in the, I'm not Catholic, but I have great respect for Catholics and a lot of friends that are Catholic, in the Vatican I version of Mass, before Easter, they will say something of the variety, as it says in Scripture, that Jews turn their back on Jesus. Is that now going to warrant an investigation from the civil rights Leviathan? And before you say I'm fear-mongering, have you been paying attention the last decade of what our government has done to pervert and contort and misuse the federal law to go after everyday American patriots? Even if this law was written plainly and clearly, which it is not, it would still be abused. And it has a nice title, Antisemitism Awareness Act. I don't want antisemitism, you don't want antisemitism, guess what? This will create even more antisemitism.

If your goal is to have more people have negative views about the power of Jewish Americans in the political process, this bill does not help. It is a direct tomahawk missile on the First Amendment. Yesterday and last night felt as if somebody at the top leveled the regime decided to drop the hammer. And our side is so gullible.

Mike Johnson, so gullible. Police dismantled the Fordham occupation last night. They dismantled the UCLA encampment overnight. They raided Hamilton Hall at Columbia overnight.

Police are moving into Portland State encampment as we speak. Joe Biden finally condemned the protests. And while all of that is disappearing and is vanishing, Republicans decide to put an unprecedented historic attack on the First Amendment. And let me just say, so many of these Republicans are quick to go on cable TV and say, we're a free speech and free speech and free.

How many times do we hear that? They do these hearings, these ridiculous hearings in Congress. Oh, you know, we Republicans are a party of free speech. Are you really the party of free speech?

Show me, because this is not in the spirit or tradition of free speech. And don't take my word for it. Let's read what Ben Shapiro, who's a great man, said about this bill. We don't agree on everything.

Boy, is that true. However, Ben Shapiro, an orthodox Jew, says this. Our campuses are left-wing activism training centers. Remove their taxpayer funding.

West Virginia minors should not subsidize gender studies. Major Hamas fans. The solution is not to pass a bad bill adding yet more free speech violations to the giant free speech violation that is Title 6. Ben Shapiro is spot on. So if Ben Shapiro doesn't support it, who actually does? Well, I'll tell you, almost every single Republican, 90 percent of your Republican conference, does not care about the First Amendment. They only care about speech and about speech they like.

They only care about speech that they want to hear. And I want to say this, and I want to defend anyone that might say, oh, this is Jews pushing for this. I don't know a single Jewish patriot in my life that supports this or wants this.

Not a single one. Vast majority of Jews didn't ask for this. It came out of nowhere. It almost feels like a trap that Republicans fell for. Oh, anti-Semitism Awareness Act. You know, we have to vote for this.

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That is, Mike Lawler. Let's get that tape here. Cut 102. A Republican congressman from New York is celebrating this.

And for the 30th time, I just want to repeat. I think that Jew hatred is repulsive. But we have a First Amendment to defend even repulsive opinions. Let's play cut 102. Hey, everyone, it's Congressman Mike Lawler. I just want to say how proud I am that my bill, the anti-Semitism Awareness Act, just passed the House of Representatives 320 votes to 91. This bill has broad bipartisan support and will begin the process of cracking down on the anti-Semitism that we've seen run rampant on college campuses all across America. This is a big day and a big win. Now we got to get it through the Senate and signed into law.

I look forward to working to get this across the finish line. We have plenty of laws, Mr. Lawler. Enforce the ones already on the books. In fact, the problem is not that you need a new bill that expands the civil rights D.E.I.

monster monster that we've seen that goes after different groups unnecessarily. No, but instead, why don't you enforce the laws on the books? And this is your priority.

This is the priority of the House Republican Conference. Every day, I grieve how this document, the United States Constitution, the greatest political document ever written, is being destroyed. The Bill of Rights has 10 amendments.

We have seen two of them effectively vanish in the last couple of weeks. Remember the Fourth Amendment? Republicans don't believe in that. The right of the people to secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. We expanded FISA.

Thank you, Mike Johnson, for a tiebreaker vote. No warrants, spy on all of your communications, can spy on everything. The First Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting and establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people to peacefully assemble.

Look, I hate to break it to House Republicans. I don't like the Students for Justice of Palestine. I don't like these Palestinian protests. But when they remain peaceful, they are constitutionally protected. Those are protected by the First Amendment, and you should want them to be protected. But swooping in with mass bipartisan support and save me the lecture on bipartisan support. When something is rapidly supported by the unit party, I think it's even worse of an idea. And people are fussing, saying, oh, no, it doesn't make the Bible illegal, which, again, by the word of the law, I think I made a rather crisp argument that it does.

However, let's just put that aside. The bill requires the Department of Education to now use this definition with these examples when how it decides to enforce Title 6 of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prohibits forms of racial and religious discrimination. So a school commits any of the above offenses or tolerate students or faculty who do, the Department of Education is now being told they have to sue them for violating civil rights law the same way it currently sues for race and sex discrimination. And while they aren't explicitly named, it's reasonable to imagine this bill encourages or requires all other civil rights bureaucracies to act the same way. And when we have the roll call of all the people who voted for this, and it is overwhelming, the Republicans and I, I'm going to be working the phones this afternoon, calling a lot of these people saying, hey, just just a quick question. Did you read the bill? But did you actually look up what the definition was cited in there? Did you go through? I mean, OK, let's just put the Bible part aside, which I think I've done thoroughly.

I want to go back to two in particular. You're not allowed to say that Jews are more loyal to Israel or alleged priorities of Jews worldwide than the interests of their own nations. You're not allowed to say that.

Well, what if there's an instance where that's true? You're not allowed to say that? Again, the Jews in my life, they don't believe that they're Jewish patriots. A Jewish listener to the program says, Charlie, what about dual citizens? You can't say they have dual citizenship.

So we're now policing fact patterns. A lot of people are dual citizens. You can't say that the state of Israel is a racist endeavor. I don't believe it's a racist endeavor. I love Israel.

I fight for Israel every day. But you can't even say that. So let me get this straight. If I have an event on a college campus and I talk to students for an hour, two hours, three hours, and somebody comes up and says that Israel is racist, the Department of Education could sue that student? No, I think that's totally wrong. I think that's reprehensible.

If a student says and comes up and draws comparison of Israeli policy to that of the Nazis, that is now illegal. Do you know how you handle that, Mr. Lawler, and to the most 90% of the Republicans that voted for this? You don't handle that by passing a bill. You handle that by having the courage to go on these campuses, look them in the eye, debate them, film it, and publicize the dialogue. That's what we have done successfully at Turning Point USA. We have successfully gone into the streets and had the tough conversations.

And guess what? We're winning in that regard. We have 50 million social media views on a single platform TikTok a week.

We have 40 to 50 million on Instagram a week just on that type of content. And I'm going to close this talking about the moral right of free speech more broadly, something the Republicans obviously don't believe in. They say they do. Oh, we have all these hearings about campus free speech. And then they come in and parachute saying, well, unless you want to say that Israel is racist, which I don't believe, but people should say that we don't we don't believe in that. And by the way, I'm calling some of them out on text message to say, oh, well, it's not going to pass the Senate. That is a ridiculous response to me, a ridiculous response that you have a show vote because you're afraid of owning the truth because you have some sort of handshake deal with the Senate.

Get out of the way. I've been doing this for 11 years. I know campus is probably better than almost anybody in the halls of Congress. And I don't say that braggadociously.

I say that factually. I've spoken almost every major power five school across the country. I say almost there's I think 70 of them. I think I've spoken 62 of them.

I mean, all across the country. And I know the campus environment very, very well. I could tell you there is a nonstop campaign to stop me from speaking on these campuses. Thankfully, we have the First Amendment, thankfully.

So you have a choice. You can shut up opinions you don't like, or you can keep the trajectory and the tradition of speech that actually helps us in the long end. Do we believe our ideas are better? Yes. Do we believe that we can back them up with facts and dialogue? Reason?

Yes. Here's a conversation I had with a gentleman who did not think very highly of Israel. Sweet man, devout Catholic, this is one of hundreds of pieces of tape I could show you. We have now posted this clip on social media.

It's been seen by millions of millions of people. I defend Israel in this clip. I don't think this young man is man should be investigated by the Department of Education for having a contrarian view. He doesn't say any of the buzzwords there. But what if he says something like, you know, I think Israel is racist.

OK, that's silly. Let's talk about it. So instead of stifling and suffocating their speech, let's have a conversation. Here's an example, because I live this out every day. And if any of these buffoons that passed this thing would have picked up the phone and talked to us. They would have realized that they're actually hurting the movement, they're hurting our own momentum. Before I play this, I just want to make sure I understand.

We have been winning these last two weeks and Republicans had to prance in and shoot ourselves in the foot, losing the moral high ground. Here's an example of the dialogue that is necessary with a young man who does not care for Israel. And he's not alone. There's a lot of them out there. But I don't think he should be sued or investigated by the federal government.

Play cut one or three. Why is Israel so important to America? What evidence do you have that the Bible is true? Well, we have archaeological. Where is that archaeological evidence found in Israel? Right. Thank you. So in the places controlled by Muslims, are we able to access that archaeological evidence?

No, no. So therefore, as it's controlled by Jews, we Christians have actually gotten the better end of the deal. So you're asking the question, why should we support Israel? We want the Bible to be proven true. The archaeological evidence is found in Israel. The places where the Muslims can control it completely, like Bethlehem, we are not able to visit those holy sites.

I have a theological belief, but I also have a belief that protecting the historical integrity of the Bible is good for all of humanity. And under its current government, we're allowed to access those holy sites. I'm able to go to see where Jesus walked on the water. I'm able to go and see where Jesus rose from the dead. I'm able to see where Jesus was betrayed by Judas Iscariot. I'm able to see where Jesus preached the Mount of the Beatitudes. And I think that's worth defending.

And I'm afraid that if it was under Muslim control, there is no such guarantees always that Western Christians are gained access to those holy sites. We posted that on TikTok. It has 250,000 views in one hour. The top comment, I've actually never heard it stated like this. This is a really well thought out answer.

And 1256 people liked that in one hour as far as they agree with that sentiment. The next comment. OK, never heard this argument. Thinking face, solid answer.

Now, what am I getting at here? That dialogue is how we win people over. Not by top down brute force, stifling discussion. If someone were to come up to me at one of these events and say the reprehensible anti-Jewish stuff, I would call them out and we would build consensus. Do you know that actually makes these these evil and awful ideas, it makes them more popular the more you censor them? It makes them more popular because then people say, well, if I'm not if I can't say it, I'm going to try to say you should be able to think and speak freely in this country. Even if you are offending a group, and by the way, I remember back when the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, defended the right of neo-Nazis to march in downtown Skokie, Illinois, along where a lot of Holocaust survivors lived. But there's a new state of affairs in Washington, D.C., where it's not about freedom of speech. It's not about dialogue. It's about stifling. It's about using power to potentially prevent the word of God from being read, brought to you by the Republican Party. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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