Ask Charlie Anything 179: TPUSA vs. Ronna? Murderers on Joe Rogan? Charlie Bible Update?

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Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. We're taking your questions. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Let's get to the first question here. Charlie, I see that there is a new regime at the RNC. I know this was a focus and an emphasis of yours. Do you care to tell us more? Yes. So we've been focusing on this for several months. In fact, over a year. You see, Ronna, she declared war on Turning Point. Ronna was a failed chair and she never even acknowledged that they could be doing things better, never hired vast amount of field staff, never built out a grassroots army capable of winning. And Ronna was up for reelection in January of last year. And the previous December, Ronna attacks Turning Point. She was on the Brian Kilmeade show and she says, oh, you know, Turning Point.

They can't win anything in Arizona, like, wait a second, what is going on here out of nowhere? And we said, OK, if she's really going to declare war on us, then we're going to respond. And we started to realize that. The grassroots were very upset. The grassroots.

You, the precinct committee, the people that are registering voters and chasing ballots, the people that are making elections happen. You wanted a new vision of the RNC. And so we went to Dana Point, California, last year, as many of you know, we reported live from there to try to get a new RNC chair. We did our best and we fell short.

Harmeet Dillon would have been a great chair. And we warned. We said, hey, if you do not have Ronna removed, you're not going to be able to raise a lot of capital. You're going to have a funding problem. And they said, oh, now we have all these donors. And it turns out the RNC this last year had the worst year inflation adjusted for raising money in 30 years.

The RNC was unable to. Hire the necessary staff in these states were outnumbered five, six, seven thousand to one as far as staffing goes. So we at Turning Point Action, we have stepped up. We've raised some of the money. We're hiring the ballot chasers, hiring the precinct organizers, the largest geo TV effort in the history of Republican politics, early geo TV effort. We're going to have hundreds of full time people in Arizona, Wisconsin, targeting the precincts, targeting the counties that we need to win, that are necessary for victory. And you guys didn't let up. We kept on leading you. We talked about how the RNC continued to spend money on flowers and other niceties and luxury items, how even when the RNC was exposed for its extravagant spending, that they doubled and tripled down. It was a failed regime, the entire cabal there.

I hope they never get hired in any sort of decent job in politics. They had contempt for the grassroots. And then Rana turned up the temperature. Rana, instead of spending time to defeat Joe Biden, Rana did her best to try to come after this show and this program. She went after the she went after us personally. She planted stories in adversarial media against us. The RNC was more focused on trying to attack, smear, and slander turning point USA, turning point action.

Charlie Kirk and Tyler Boyer than they were about building a political party for victory. And we kept on saying, just resign. Step aside. Oh, she's never going to resign.

Never going to resign. So then we said, well, let's create an alternative RNC meeting in Vegas. Many of you know that the Restoring National Confidence Summit wasn't personal. Late January in Vegas, we held our own RNC meeting. Bannon was there. It was an excellent gathering. In fact, the clip from that meeting is just amazing.

State party chair, national committeeman, grassroot warrior after grassroot warrior. Thank you, turning point. Thank you, turning point. Thank you, turning point USA. Thank you, turning point action. Thank you, turning point action.

Thank you, turning point action. We're getting data. We're getting training. We're getting technology. We're getting marching orders. That's exactly why we were doing what we were doing. And now, after a fair amount of effort.

Yeah, let's get that clip loaded. Fair amount of grit. You are successful. I don't take any credit for this. Of course, it's Donald Trump who deserves the ultimate credit. He's the one that forced this. So thank you, President Trump, for acting swiftly, getting rid of Rana, putting in Laura Trump, putting in Chris LaCivita, putting in Michael Watley. And I just want to enjoy this clip because this is a victory for you, a victory for the grassroots.

Play cut 125. Move to a vote. The question is on the election of Laura Trump as co-chairman of the Republican National Committee. All those in favor signify by saying aye. All those opposed, please say no. The ayes have it.

The ayes have it. And Laura Trump is elected as co-chairman of the Republican National Committee. Officially elected as co-chair of the Republican National Committee. So Rana gave a quote unquote farewell address.

I don't want to spend too much time on that, but it's worth playing part of it. Rana said, I'm stepping aside today because I've long promised to put the nominee and their plans for the RNC first. President Trump deserves to have the team he wants to emplace at the RNC. When I made the decision to step aside, there was no one else I supported to be the next chair more than Michael Watley. Michael and I had a very close relationship as he ran North Carolina.

He'll be phenomenal. And I know an issue President cares deeply about, which is election integrity. Did she mention that she's probably the worst RNC chair that we've had since Michael Steele? Leaving the organization with very little capital, very little money. It's funny, you know, she says, well, we had a very, very good February.

I wonder why, Rana? Donors started to give once you said, I'm going to step down. Let's play cut 126. The money's already starting to flow in.

Cut 126. We have to raise a lot of money. And I have great news. I brought this up here today because I wanted everyone to know that already I have a chance to raise a lot of money. Check for the Republican National Committee for one hundred thousand dollars that has been donated as of today, as of these nominations going through. Yeah, we're starting today, folks. And the small dollar donors are coming in. We're getting emails, freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. It's pouring in. Charlie, I'm given ten dollars now.

I'm given fifteen dollars and maybe twenty dollars. Laura Trump is a superstar. She's a great person.

She's just going to do a terrific job. This is 129 that shows how turning point action forced the issue. Turning point action forced the conversation. And we stuck our neck out there. A lot of people talked a good game about the RNC, but they were deathly afraid because, look, the RNC, they play for keeps. The RNC, they're a mafia.

They're a cartel. We took the slings and the arrows. We held the line. We punch back when appropriate. And now the losers are out of the way.

It's one of the things I'm very thankful we participated in. They attacked my character. They tried to say that we were doing this for profit.

I needed this like a hole in the head. Ronna was far more concerned about destroying my career personally, destroying this show, because that's what again, they work like the five family mob. That's all they know. They don't care about winning elections.

They care about their own power. This clip shows how turning point action forced the issue. Play cut 129. Thank you to Turning Point. I've learned more in one day than I have in two years.

OK, what are the what are two or three things you learned that you know my show? So they have the turning point data. People have dug down to precinct level six precincts of mine that had target voters that were likely voters in 2016, 2020 that did not vote. And they're Republicans down to twenty five thousand voters. I can hit those six precincts now with my walk list. I've never gotten that dug down from the RPOF or the RNC.

Turning Point has done it. I'm taking it home to my people, my precinct captains and going out and doing this now. Twenty five thousand votes. That's amazing. Huge.

Huge. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to Charlie Kirk. Thank you, Steve.

Everything you do. We have several more like that. It's a beautiful clip. We are in a much better position to win in November. And just so we're clear, I had coming into this new year, I was very negative on the RNC.

I said, oh, it's going to be Rana going in. I had no idea that this was actually going to happen, but we didn't give up. And President Trump deserves the credit. Excellent personnel choice.

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Where legal? We need to harvest that. This is the modern electoral equivalent of the arms race, and we're getting smashed right now, probably outspent 10 to one. After I saw Joe Biden's State of the Union address and Joe Biden is likely going to be the nominee unless he drops dead or something goofy happens, we need to get to work. This is why polls don't materialize on election day and month. If we're up three, we lose. If we're up four, we lose unless we chase ballots, unless we organize our precincts. It's not enough just to say, hey, we have to throw everybody on election day and hope everything works out. By the way, we have to secure our elections. Where are the lawsuits?

The RNC right now with this new regime, Laura Trump should take that one hundred thousand dollar check and we need to go. We need to go retain some pit bull lawyers and we need to go sue right now. Sue against the relaxing of signature verification. We need to sue for ballot custody.

We need to sue against these massive drop boxes, some of which are finally improving. The issue set is in our favor. What is remarkable about the Democrats are trying to do is they have an unpopular political agenda that they're successfully able to force on the American people because they're better at politics than we are. Politics is now a game.

It's a game of who can get the most pieces of paper into the ballot box in a 30 day window. And they have no reservations to cut corners. They have no reservations to deploy thousands and thousands of ballot chasers into the streets.

In fact, they're proud of it. And so at turning point action, we're going to have hundreds of full time people in Arizona alone. Right now, the RNC has won and the Trump campaign has won. We hope that changes. We hope the Trump campaign has taken over the RNC. We need to have at least a thousand five hundred full time people in Arizona alone if we're serious about winning. The game has totally changed. Used to be that used to be able to have like a field director, a couple of volunteers.

No, no, no, no. Because of mass mail and voting, you need bodies. You need to flood the zone.

You need full occupation. Of the target states. Joe Biden knows this. You know, I was just recently in a meeting and this will shock many of you.

That might not shock you. And they said, Charlie, who do you think has the advantage? I said, of course, Joe Biden has the advantage.

And they said, what do you mean? He's feeble. He's weak. I said, OK, yeah, fine.

Sure. Of course he is. So but he's an incumbent president with the entire oligarchy backing him with superior election machinery. And the RNC is a complete joke that's now turning into something real, thankfully. And I said, what makes you think elections are about issues anymore?

It might be on the margins. It might be for certain swing voters. And that's why they run so much TV advertisement. Elections are about the plumbing. It's about getting into the weeds. It's about the boring stuff that Republicans largely don't focus on.

It used to be, hey, it's the economy stupid. Now it's hey, it's the clipboards stupid or it's the community organizers stupid. We don't give our people clipboards. There's a mobile application that they're able to use. But you get the point. It's the community organizers. It's the government. And we are still living in this antiquated 2016 model where we think that we have Election Day.

You want a fun fact? In the target states that matter, a majority of the voters will vote before Election Day, a majority in the states that matter. So people say, oh, you know, we have 271 days till Election Day. I say we have 271 days till the ballots start to get announced and counted with 30 days ahead of that. And the Democrats, they're already profiling their swing independent voters.

They're already doing that. Plus, Joe Biden is going to outspend us five or six to one. Joe Biden will raise billions of dollars. Joe Biden is a spokesperson for the corporate oligarchy, for the billionaire class.

He'll have as much money as he wants. They love what is happening to this country. Enthusiastic about no borders, cheap money, stock market highs. So we are the underdog and we are currently not acting like the underdog.

Way too much pride, way too much cockiness. If I have to hear another person ask me, Charlie, can I be, you know, on the presidential transition team? I say, why don't we win before you worry about what role you're going to serve in the government? None of that matters if you don't win. And currently, we're the underdog. They are the favorite.

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It's almost seems fake, to be honest. Someone emails us here. Trevor from Georgia. Charlie, did you see the story about the guy that went on Joe Rogan and then they found a decapitated body in his freezer? I would love to have you riff on this. Yeah, this is this is something else. So essentially, there's this guy that goes on Joe Rogan's show, and he's the guy that goes on Joe Rogan's show. And his name is Sheldon Johnson.

So Sheldon Johnson has kind of become the face of a criminal justice advocate. And so his whole idea, his whole thing is that, look, I'm I'm was I was in prison and now I'm no longer. And apparently he goes on. I made a mistake. I'm reformed and give me another chance. So he appears on Joe Rogan's show last month, who was just arrested for murdering a man and dismembering his corpse.

But it gets even worse. So on Rogan's podcast, the Innocence Project lawyer Josh Dubin calls Sheldon, quote, a miracle and complained that he was sent to prison for twenty five years over two stitches. In reality, Sheldon was an experienced drug dealer with a prior conviction who pistol whipped somebody during an armed robbery and attack that contrary to the movies can easily kill or seriously maim a person. Johnson said that his son, quote, got into a fight with this Chinese guy who tried to tragically died. In reality, his son viciously attacked a random Columbia grad student, punch him in the face and chase him in the street where a car killed him. Despite committing murder, his son served less than two years in juvie.

A police officer testified he shows no remorse for the killing. Johnson's father, meanwhile, raped a seven year old three times, blaming the fact his wife wouldn't have sex with him due to his drug habit. A judge just gave him five years of probation. This is the family that the Innocence Project.

By the way, I was attacked for going after the Innocence Project, that the Innocence Project trotted out as proof the justice system is overly punitive and systemically racist. So this guy was the favorite. He got on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's one of the hardest podcasts to get booked on. The Innocence Project picked this guy specifically.

They picked, hey, this guy is a great example. And I usually don't I usually don't read The Daily Beast, but I have to read the The Daily Beast headline, quote, Joe Rogan guest arrested after discovery of Headless Torso NYC. The Innocence Project exists purely to get criminals off the hook.

They exist to promote crime. So I'm going to play this tape here. He sounds reasonable. Joe Rogan fawns over him, by the way, he gets on the Joe Rogan program. It turns out, for whatever reason, he has a headless torso in his apartment. Probably should have done your research, Innocence Project. Let's play.

I think it's 127, please. I need my money. I'm just just it's just me being honest.

This is miss being straight. You know, I gave you something. And we had an understanding that you were going to pay me. And when I came home, when I finally located this particular individual, he had his girlfriend with him. And this guy owed me five thousand dollars for some drugs that I gave him on consignment. I gave him an eighth, an eighth of a kilo, which is one hundred and twenty five grams of cocaine. And when I saw him, he had a bunch of jewelry on, he was with his girlfriend. She had a bunch of jewelry on.

I said, hey, man, where's my money at? So Rogan basically fawns over him. And it's all about reforming the criminal justice system. In 1999, Johnson was convicted of murder, robbery and attempted charges in New York court. So the Innocence Project comes in and sues. So he went on a February episode of the Joe Rogan podcast that discovered discuss his advocacy work and how he turned his life around while incarcerated.

He claimed he'd gone to prison as a high ranking member of the Bloods, but he's been able to untangle himself from gang ties. Quote, I really said I have to change my life. I have to change my life.

I just can't do this. I had a wife. I had kids. I had family. Still, my son was growing up. He was hearing stories of the so-called notoriety, but he just didn't want to be that dad.

Civil rights attorney Josh Dubin calls him a miracle. Now, while while a group of people were doing I think it was a on parole, we're doing a wellness check on Mr. Sheldon. The Daily Beast reports, quote, police found a headless torso and arms in his Bronx apartment while conducting a wellness check. So he knew they were coming to do a wellness check or like a parole visit, and he doesn't clean up the arms. Not only is this guy sick, he's stupid. You got like a decapitated you got a torso and you got a bunch of arms. Mr. Johnson, we're here to do our wellness check. And he doesn't, I don't know, like, put it in the freezer or something. Hey, but guys, our criminal justice system is punitive and racist.

And if you dare disagree, you're a bad person. The remains were identified of that of Colin Small. Police said that Small was pronounced dead at the scene. His relationship to Jordan was Johnson's not know, but law enforcement told sources they have a beef dating back to their time back together in Westchester County's notorious Sing Sing Prison. Police said that neighbors in Johnson's building had heard at least two gunshots coming from inside a six floor apartment early Tuesday, followed by a man shouting, Please don't have a family. Another two gunshots followed.

Later on Tuesday morning, the neighbors informed the building superintendent and then called 911. Police who arrived at the apartment that night were met by Johnson, who then they took into custody later. They obtained a search warrant and discovered Small's torso and foot inside a large blue bin. The other foot, as well as his arms and legs, decapitated head were found inside the apartment freezer. Oh, so he did utilize the freezer. I'm sorry. So it wasn't about parole.

He put the head in the freezer. I mean, how obviously psycho must this guy be? So let's talk about this. What is the Innocence Project to be perfectly clear? I just typed in the Innocence Project. There is not a single article about this tying the Innocence Project to this.

Could you imagine if Turning Point USA had a screw up this large that if we sent somebody on Joe Rogan's podcast, this is the best representative that we have. This is our and we find out that this person has like decapitate. But even worse, this is their life's work. The Innocence Project is all about making you feel sorry for hardened criminals. I typed in the Innocence Project and there is it's all about Scott Peterson, which I'm sure Blake has strong opinions about the Scott Peterson case. I don't have strong opinions. I don't know that much about it. So the Innocence Project, quote, exists as a 501 nonprofit legal organization that's committed to exonerating individuals who've been wrongly convicted to the use of DNA testing and working to reform the criminal justice system to prevent future injustice.

You go to their Web site, Kim Kardashian's endorse them. You know what? I should look up on their if they still have Sheldon Johnson on their Web site or did they scrub it? Sheldon Johnson. I think they might have scrubbed it. Got to get rid of that one. Let me see if they have this one here.

Yes, it's just amazing. Sheldon Johnson. Has disappeared from the Innocence Project's Web site. I thought but Innocence Project thought this is your job. Come on. He he's a miracle.

Aren't you guys going to defend him? Innocence Project. Amazingly, Sheldon Johnson is nowhere to be found on the Web site anymore.

It's just gone. That's weird. They have a massive staff of people. And just I mean, I'm looking at their entire staff here. Imagine your life's work being I want to make it easier for criminals to get out of jail. And they pose it as the wrongly accused, and I'm sure they do some good work every so often there. But if this is not a glaring example of how the choice nonprofits of the American ruling class are doing a disservice to the country.

So think about it. Joe Rogan wants to have some person talk about how screwed up the criminal justice system is. Joe Rogan has a soft spot for drug use and over-sentencing.

Fine. So Joe Rogan probably gets pitched by a lot of people and they say, hey, let's bring this guy on. He's got an amazing story. I think I think Joe Rogan is I think I think the world of Joe Rogan. I want Joe Rogan to do like a comedy bit on this. Could you imagine Joe Rogan doing a stand up routine? Joe Rogan saying, so I had this guy come on the show.

He's talking about how reformed he is. And next time he has an effing torso in his apartment two weeks later. He would do a much better job, but it's like it's like built for Rogan's stand up comedy. If Rogan doesn't lean in on this, it'd be like one of the it would be one of the great missed opportunities. I mean, Rogan gets a lot of crap for being conservative lately, so he's trying to balance out his programing. So he has Riley Gaines, Christopher Rufo and Charlie Manson, Black Charlie Manson.

You got to have like you got to have all the different groups represented, I guess. It would be a huge missed opportunity if Joe Rogan didn't lean into this. He shouldn't avoid it. He should he should just make fun of it. Have one of his fellow comedians come on.

They could smoke a couple of joints. I hope Joe doesn't dodge this. Joe would just make he'd make a Mona Lisa out of this whole thing. And I don't I don't fault Joe at all. I mean, you don't know who comes on booking guests, innocent.

I don't. What I'm saying is that Joe could make a great light about this, being like, yeah, I really thought this guy had his life back together and he was transformed and he was changed. He's cutting people's limbs off and putting heads in a freezer.

That's the Innocence Project, what they call a miracle. Turns out 25 years wasn't enough. Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk, you might be wondering why some of my age is talking to you about an organization that's been associated with older generation. And no, I don't mean the radical AARP. It's because preserving the foundation of our nation and promoting conservative values isn't just for seniors.

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Keep it up. I mean, look, of course, when I go to these campuses, there are so many young women that support Turning Point USA and support our movement. But generally, generally, the young ladies do not resonate with my rational arguments. They always say, but that doesn't seem nice.

I want to love all people. And you might talk about the cost or the consequence, and a lot of times they say, but that feels mean. Women generally want to fit in. They enforce rules and norms, and that can be very good for a society.

It can also be very bad if the rules they're told to enforce are bad. Men, on the other hand, far more disagreeable. Women are more stable, which is a good thing. Men, on the other hand, they want a different type of politics. And you're seeing that collide. The conservative agenda of order, tradition, direction is speaking to a lost generation of men that have been drowning in the sea of secular liberalism. And we see that on campus.

I mean, by far the group that is the most excited to become in the right wing revolution direction, it is young men. And so this was really funny. And then I want to get to this question about Elijah.

So the Democrats made a big mistake. This guy comes up. They want me to sign stuff at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo. This guy comes up. He says, hey, can you sign my zen? I was like, yeah, sure. So I sign it all of a sudden. I am not I think we have it on camera.

I'm not exaggerating. Ten young men come up wanting me to sign their zen things, zen, what they call pack pouches. Zen, whatever containers.

And I start I start signing it again. I have no moral opinion on Zen. Apparently, it's a nicotine pouch. Some people say it's good for you. Some see it's bad for you.

Some people say it does wonders. I don't. That's not my fight.

OK, I don't think it should be banned at all. And I said I said to these young men, I said and will never ban Zen. And they screamed with enthusiasm like how women scream when they say we're never going to ban abortion.

I am not exaggerating. Is Zen the white man abortion issue? I don't know.

I'm just asking the question. I didn't talk about banning Zen. Chuck Schumer did.

Chuck Schumer came out. He said, we're going to ban Zen. Exactly.

Those little things. I signed 10 of those things yesterday. Again, I have a very indifferent I don't I'm not going to promote it. I'm not going to ban it. But the Democrats, I'll tell you, they are sitting on a thermonuclear weapon here. Is Zen the white man's abortion issue?

If you want to win, don't ban Zen. OK, so someone has a question here. Carlos, Charlie, what Bible story have you really been focusing on? I love the Bible. I'm trying to read it. I also love your wife's Bible ministry. Thank you. You guys should check out Bible in 365 dot com.

Check it out. Bible in 365 dot com. The story of Elijah. The story of Elijah is a beautiful story.

It occurs in First Kings. Elijah is, without a doubt, one of the most important figures of the Bible. So important, though, he's unusual that, like Jesus, he did not write about his own life. And that's what makes his life a little bit different. Moses wrote about his life.

It's not the only one. I suppose Abraham didn't, nor did Isaac or Jacob. However, Elijah did a couple of things.

Number one, he was very political. Challenge King Ahab. Who is God? Let's have a throwdown. Elijah was also very demoralized, went almost into the desert, basically said, I'm giving up.

I'm totally demoralized. God rescued him from that. And he trusted in God. And he was a man's man. He confronted Jezebel multiple times.

He confronted Ahab. He had a heart for the prophets and a heart for the Lord. And he was obedient.

But it didn't always go easy for him. So I encourage you guys to pray and meditate over the incredible story of Elijah. And one of the other great ones is that one of the great takeaways of the story of Elijah is that all religions are not the same. And there's this amazing narrative where basically, hey, who is God?

Baal or the almighty God of Jehovah? I'll let you guys read First Kings. It's an amazing story. And the story of Elijah, we need a new spirit of Elijah, speaking of being a man's man. I bet Elijah would do Zin if he was alive today. I'm kidding.

That's somewhat heretical. So thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always. Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.